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u/polypeptide147 · 5 pointsr/BudgetAudiophile

$3 - $4k will get you an awesome setup.

I've gone through this process many times. I've had more speakers and amps that I can keep track of. I've heard a lot of the stuff out there in this price range. So hopefully I can help you out. I would, however, like to let you know that you should try to find a dealer and listen there. That will most likely be your best bet. I can tell you all about speakers all day and tell you what my favorites are, but if they get there and you don't like them, then that doesn't mean they aren't good, it just means that they aren't for you. There's no way to know in advance.

So, let's start with some basics. You said you like bass. That means you'll want a sub. Even tower speakers won't do what you want in terms of bass. A lot of people think that towers make tons of bass compared to bookshelves, but that really isn't the case. Here, let's do some examples with some of my favorite brands: Bowers and Wilkins as well as KEF.

We can do B&W first. They have a 600 series, 700 series, and 800 series. The higher, the better. In those series, there are different speakers. 707, 706, 705... The smaller the last number, the bigger the speaker. the 707 are small bookshelves, while the 702 are large towers.

Let's say we have a budget of $2000. In the 600 series, you could get a pair of towers for $1800. These go down to 48hz. There's a good chance you'd want a sub with that. I definitely would.

Now, what if we jump up to the 700 series, which will give us better sound? We've actually got two options for the price.

First, we could get a pair of 706 bookshelves. They're also $1800. They go down to 50hz. That's 2hz different than the towers. You'd still want a subwoofer.

Another option would be to get a pair of 707 bookshelf speakers. They're $1200, which leaves you with and extra $600 for a nice subwoofer. So, in the end, these would give you the best full-range sound when compared to the towers or the bigger bookshelves.

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Let's take a look at KEF.

KEF has the Q series, which is the 'budget' series, and the R series, which is a step up from that.

These are KEF Q series towers. They're $1800. They get down to 44hz. Pretty low, but I'd still want a subwoofer.

These are the R series bookshelves. They are $2000 and only go down to 52hz, but that doesn't matter, since you were going to buy a subwoofer for something that goes to 44hz anyways. So you'd get better sound from these than the towers.

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Basically, with towers in this price range, you're paying for loudness rather than extension. However, once you climb up in price, towers become stand alone, and don't require subwoofers. But at your price range, that isn't usually the case.

Anyways, you said that you want them for your living room. I don't know what size it is, but usually towers are better for a living room than bookshelves since they can get louder easier, and if you're watching TV/Movies, loudness is pretty important.

So, let's talk about the setup.

First things first: turntable. I have a Rega Planar 2 and it works great. The Rega Planar 1 should be pretty similar. It should work great. I used mine with a NAD PP 2e for a while until I got an amp with a phono integrated. It worked great. I have a lot of Schiit stuff and I like it all so one from Schiit would probably be great as well.

That leaves us with a bit over $3000 for amp, speakers, and a sub. Ideally 2 subs, but probably not. We'll see.

A Yamaha Integrated amp would be great. It has an integrated DAC so you can use it with your TV much easier. It also has 100wpc, which is plenty.

A Marantz could be good as well, but no integrated DAC. I have Marantz and I like it, but I use it with an external DAC. Here's one of those for you. Either amp will work well. The Marantz has 40wpc, which isn't as much as the Yamaha. I would probably go with the Yamaha, but that's just me. Also the Yamaha comes in silver, which looks pretty awesome in my opinion.

Now we've got about $2600 left. I would personally cut it up like this: ~$2000 for speakers, ~$500 for a sub, and then save up for a second sub. We'll get to that later.

Speakers in the $2000 range are good. I'll give you some of my favorites.

Quad S-5. I've heard the S-4 and the S-2, and they're both phenomenal for price to performance. I have a pair of Quad Z-3. I spent months listening to different stuff, some stuff that was thousands of dollars more. I like the Quads better than the B&W 600, 700, and 800 series. I like them more than Martin Logan. I like them more than KEF. etc. The Z series is just the next step up from the S series. That being said, the S series is still some of the best. I'm actually going to swap the LS50s on my desk out for a pair of S-2 bookshelves. They're that good. They have a great ribbon tweeter, that gives you all of the detail you could want but none of the fatigue. Multiple smaller drivers means clean and punchy bass. Not a ton of extension, but you've got a sub, so that doesn't matter. Vocals are absolutely fantastic on them. They're just all around a very clean and great speaker. They sound good quiet and loud, which isn't that easy for a lot of speakers to do. Anyways, they're hard to find. I ended up ordering mine through tenacious sound. If you call you'll talk to a guy named Frank. He seems pretty knowledgeable on a lot of stuff. I'm not sure what they'll have in stock, but they'll be able to order them for you since they're a Quad dealer. Also, they have weird hours. Tuesday, Friday, Saturday from 10am to 5pm. Super weird hours but I've never had a problem getting in touch when I need to order anything. Anyways, these Quads would be my first choice. That being said, if you feel like extending your budget, the Z-3 would be better. Larger ribbon tweeter to make the highs just a bit cleaner, better drivers to make everything just a bit faster, and a larger cabinet to add more bass extension. Either of those would be my pick.

Next, we can look at B&W. Unfortunately, if you want a sub, this will be tough. I'm not a huge fan of the 600 series. They aren't the best price to performance in my opinion. The cheapest 700 series tower is the rest of your budget, and doesn't go down very low (48hz) so you'd want to add a sub, but you wouldn't have the budget for that. Let's talk about it anyways. The 700 series are a bit warmer of a speaker. The bass is a bit boosted and the treble is a bit laid back, but they have a metal tweeter so even though it is just a tad laid back, you still get great detail. As I said, B&W is one of my favorite brands. It's not for these though. It's for their flagship 700 series as well as the 800 D3. Those are both very good. Unfortunately, they're both quite outside of your price range. I think the 600 series could work for you, but there are better options for the same price.

KEF R700 would be fantastic. They are all around great performers. They're a tad on the bright side, but they do it well. They have some of the best imaging I've heard, which makes them a joy to listen to. KEF is also one of my favorite brands. I've got a few pairs and they're all really fun. These are a fantastic price as well. $1700 each originally down to $1100 each is nice. They just came out with a new line which is why these are so cheap. I like KEF a lot, so you really can't go wrong with these.

I really like the Ascend Acoustics Sierra. I haven't heard the tower version of them but I assume it is very similar. They have a soft dome tweeter, which makes them a bit easier to listen to. You can get a ribbon if you want that awesome detail and transparency like the Quads have. Anyways, the Sierras have really good bass. Clean and tight. The bookshelves sound great at all volumes. What these do really well is midrange. The midrange is extremely sweet and musical. Voices are fun, and instruments in that range sound textured and beautiful. The bass guitar in "My Melancholy Blues" by Queen sounds really nice. It's like a real bass guitar is right there in the room with you. Loads of fun.

u/Nixxuz · 1 pointr/BudgetAudiophile

The thing here is; you're going to need 2 different preamps if you want to do phono and everything else.

For the phono pre, the aforementioned Yaqin MS23B is a good start. It's not a "pure" tube pre though, as it uses a transistor based gain. There's a very popular, but not exactly cheap, mod out there that introduces another tube for gain. I looked into it, but at the time the cost and time involved lead me to another preamp; The Little Bear T11. Very extensive community following online. It needs at least one very easy mod to live up to it's potential, but it's got a solid foundation as it's basically the same circuit as the very well reviewed EAR 834P phono pre. About the same investment as the Yaqin pre mod. As with all Chinese tube stuff, figure on between $40-$100 to replace tubes from the shit stock ones.

https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-Little-Turntable-Preamplifier-Pre-Amplifier/dp/B06XCM9NKV

As for the non-phono pre, I'd look at the Nobsound Marantz 7 "inspired" completed preamps, or kits, off eBay or Amazon. I like this one, but they can be had for about $70 less if you want a more vintage look and no Amazon CS;

https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-NS-01P-Preamp-Preamplifier-ALPS27/dp/B00LUCZLZQ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Douk-Audio-12AX7-Vacuum-Tube-Preamp-HiFi-Stereo-Silver-Pre-amplifier-Marantz-M7/272950496854?epid=27010206919&hash=item3f8d1e0e56:g:7CQAAOSwY0xbcpHu

As far as tubes, it really depends on the pre as to what you want. The Yaqin does well with 2 Gold Lion 12AX7's for about $30-$40 each, (which is high, but they are very good in that circuit). The T11 likes combos. It doesn't need a matched trio, so you can experiment with all sorts of tubes in all sorts of positions. I'm currently running a Gold Lion in V1, an RCA clear top NOS in V2, and a Mullard new production 12AT7 in V3 because I like the lower gain from the AT7's.

Lots of info to digest I'm sure. But I hope you find what you are looking for!

Edit; and yes the FX Audio, or the Dilvpoetry, (same unit different branding), are a great intro to the tube sound, but do NEED the GE JAN 5654 tubes, preferably from Riverstone Audio on Amazon. I found a pair of NOS Tung Sol's dated from 1945 that have an amazing tone, but lose a little on the top end compared to the 5654's.

Another option is the Little Dot series. I'm running the Mk2 as a pre for my digital chain. I replaced the driver tubes with the aforementioned Tung Sols, but it will also happily take the 5654's. And it is a "pure" tube preamplifier/headphone amp, as the power is also supplied through tubes. Very well reviewed and probably the only pre in that particular price range.

https://www.amazon.com/Little-Dot-MKII-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00A2QMAI2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1538980636&sr=1-1&keywords=little+dot+mk2+mkii

Edit; I lied! You can get an RIAA inverter! Just run any normal line level source through it and the phono stage sees it as either a MM or MC cart!

u/Mike_Rotchisari · 1 pointr/vinyl

To start off with, here are a few things to read to get you started:

  • The Vinyl Guide
  • The Cheap Setup Thread

    Basically you don't want a turntable that has anything built in like speakers or a pre-amp. These are added at the expense of quality components. You will need an amp, and possibly a pre-amp if the amp you get does not have a phono input on it already. When buying a turntable, you might as well get something nice, because the upgrade itch comes hard and fast. If you already have speakers, I would recommend just using those for now. Remember though, speakers are probably the most important part of your sound chain. I would recommend keeping an eye on craigslist for something awesome. No rush, but pounce if you happen on a deal.

    As to what amps do. Turntables output at a very low volume. The pre-amp boosts the volume and equalizes the sound to a "line-in" level. Basically, the same output that a CD player would do. After that, you need to boost the volume to a listenable level. This is what a regular amplifier does. In order of importance, a good pre-amp can work wonders. As for regular amps, they are one of the least important parts of your signal chain as long as it isn't absolute shit and can drive your speakers. They are just boosting volume.

    For maintenance, there isn't too much once you get it set up and playing. Change the stylus when needed is pretty much it. Maybe the occasional lubrication once every year or two, but I've been fine so far. The only maintenance I could really think of you having to do would possibly be to spray some Deoxit if something isn't working quite like it should, but that isn't a problem. A quick search will get you taken care of there.

    In Myrtle Beach, this Toshiba might not be too bad, especially if you could get it for $65 instead of $75.

    Back home, this Pioneer PL-4 would be a nice buy as well for around $50. It also doesn't say Technics in the listing, but here is a Technics SL-1950 for $100.

    Considering everything works as it should, I would get the Technics SL-1950. It has more documentation on the internet, and a much better chance of help from people familiar with Technics if you have any questions. See if you can haggle to around $85-$90, but it is still probably worth the $100 if they won't budge. Note that any used turntable you buy should probably have the needle replaced as well.

    As for an amp and receiver, I would recommend getting something from the 70's with a silver face by Japanese companies that you have heard the names of before. Marantz, Yamaha, JVC, Pioneer, Sansui, Kenwood, etc. all made some excellent receivers. Here are a few examples of the look I am talking about. These will last a lifetime and will rock most anything you put into them. Unfortunately, with your budget and location I didn't see anything that will fit the bill.

    Until then, I recommend you rock something like this pre-amp for $15, and this amp for $36. Start saving and then cruise craigslist, flea markets, and antique malls for one of those vintage beasts.

    Holy shit, I just realized I sent a wall of text your way. I think that will get you headed in the right direction though.

    tl;dr: This turntable, this pre-amp, and this amp, is right at $150, and possibly less depending on your negotiating skills. Use the speakers you have for now. Buy a new needle for whatever deck you get.
u/PurpleMoustache · 22 pointsr/vinyl

Here’s why:

It actually DOESN’T sound good. Normally, I’m the kind of guy who goes “if it sounds good to you, it sounds good to you”, but Victrola/Crosley/etc brand turntables have incredibly INCREDIBLY cheap components, cheap speakers (that are part of the unit, which I’ll explain why that’s bad in a second), and a bunch more stuff, crammed in an ugly form factor for like $60.

Let’s break all that down:

Cheap components - depending on the model, the Victrola is either $60, or $110, frequently on sale for much less. We must also keep in mind the laws of economics, these machines are cheaper to make then they sell for. Let’s give a conservative estimate of $70 for the 8-in-1, and $40 for the 3-in-1.

The Audio Technica AT95E NEEDLE, not even a whole turntable, not even the cartridge it goes onto, just the needle costs $35, and that’s a cheap entry level needle.

Now ask yourself: if buying a needle is nearly as much as the whole turntable costs to make... how good are those parts? Probably not that great. In fact, the needle on most cheap turntables use ceramics, rather than diamond tips. Ceramic needles not only are harsher on records, but have a poorer quality sound overall.

Then we look at the motor, we need an even speed for playing back records, and with quartz crystals or belts, that’s fairly easy, but those systems are $$$, so we have a cheapo motor that can’t handle a constant speed leading to “wow and flutter”, fluctuations in pitch and sound caused by speed differences. Now, unless you have a really really high end deck, some amounts of wow and flutter are to be expected, but the Victrola has a high amount.

Then, the tone arm. Generally speaking, the needle shouldn’t be pressing down on a record more than 3-4 grams or so, depending on the needle/cartridge you are using. Because these things are portable, they need a solution that doesn’t get goofed up when you move it, so weight from the tone arm varies BY UNIT to 10+ grams. That’s CRUSHING your record, and actively wearing out the grooves. Now, yes, records DO wear out over time, but that’s after hundreds if not thousands of plays.

And lastly, the speakers. These are contained IN THE UNIT, meaning if you are playing loud, they are shaking the whole unit, and thus the needle, and thus reducing the sound. As well as the fact that these speakers are usually quite small, and as stated before, quite cheap.

The rest of the buffalo- So that’s just the turntable! Then you’ve crammed a cassette deck, a CD player, a radio (am and fm with antenna), a aux in, and a Bluetooth receiver in there, and you have to assume the cost of those parts are as cheap as well, so you really have a $20 turntable, $10 CD player, $10 radio, $10 cassette deck, $5 aux input, $10 Bluetooth chip, and $5 for plastic assembly and now you’re realizing you’ve paid $110 for a $70 Machine that promises too much and can’t fulfill much of what it claims to do very well.

Ugly- And then this is down to personal taste: dude, that shits just ugly. Faux wood paneling, a “retro” design that never really existed, disks and buttons everywhere. I’m not saying the LP-120 looks good, but it’s leagues better in comparison.

So that’s why it’s dumped upon.

So why would you spend $110 on a $70 machine, when you could save up about $100 more, and get a DRAMATICALLY BETTER MACHINE. Yes, it's made in China like the rest of the Victrola/Crosley tables, and yes, it has a plastic body, BUT!

It has:

  • A proper Quartz Lock mechanism keeping the speed constant

  • A good, starter quality needle and cartridge (the above mentioned AT95E), with the ability to CHANGE IN THE FUTURE (you can't do that on a victrola)

  • A tone arm weight you can set yourself, making sure weight distribution on your records is at needle manufacture recommendations

  • MUCH higher quality audio components, leading to a crisper sound

  • USB out, so you can record your records

  • and a built in pre-amp, so all you need is a pair of cheap bookshelf speakers, and the table, and nothing else.

    Or, how about only $60 more, and you could get a U-Turn Orbit. It's belt driven, so if you wanna run a record at 45 RPM you'd have to move the belt, but still, DRAMATICALLY better than the motor driving a Victrola, and again, DRAMATICALLY better parts for audio. Sure it's missing a Phono preamp, but that's only $13.

    In short: why would you buy a $70 machine for $110 if you could save up a bit more and get something so so so much better
u/Microshrimp · 1 pointr/BudgetAudiophile

That sounds like a nice DAC. Since I have been really happy with the Topping TP-22 amp, I was actually looking at eventually getting the Topping D30 DAC (~$120) which I have read good reviews about. It doesn't have any analog input features though.

I have been looking up a few products that might solve my lack of inputs, and it seems hard to find a budget preamp with at least 3 inputs (or maybe I don't know where to look).

With just looking through Amazon, I did find a few inexpensive input switchers, and some of them have passive volume potentiometer nob.

The most basic products I saw were things like this $19 (after shipping) switch box, or this $25 larger switch box. Some of the reviews of this larger box make me question quality of that switch knob, but the general consensus seems that it's fine unless you're really trying hard to find flaws. The smaller 3-source box doesn't really have many reviews.

For about twice the price of that is this interesting $60 switch with a volume potentiometer. It took me a while to figure out why a passive device needs to be plugged in, but one of the reviewers explained very nicely that the powered circuit is for relay switches when changing sources and for powering LEDs. The audio path itself is completely passive.

For the same price of $60, there is a USA made similar product (Schiit Sys passive preamp) that looks fantastic and simple, but only has 2 inputs.

After finding that Schiit product, I began to look further into that company and was really impressed by this Schiit Saga preamp. It has more than enough inputs, but it doesn't really fit my budget right now at $350. Some reviews I read today suggest that it has a very transparent sound and the remote control volume control is a nice feature. Reviews noted that the tube feature (which apparently can be bypassed) doesn't really do anything hugely impressive to the sound, but at least no one complained about it (and it looks pretty cool).

And finally I found this Emotiva BasX PT-100 for $299, which is also more than I'm planning on spending right away, but the fact that it is a multi-input preamp along with a DAC, it would suit all my needs, plus more. This may be similar to what you have. One thing I noticed though with the Emotiva DAC is that the website says the USB input goes up to 24/96k, whereas several other DACs I was looking at (including the Topping D30) have USB input up to 24/192k. If you have any thoughts about this, I would be interested in hearing about it. The Emotiva does support that higher quality on the other digital inputs though. Overall the Emotiva may be the best feature-per-dollar item I have found so far.

I think if budget wasn't an issue I would continue to do some research to compare if the Emotive PT-100 alone would be just as good or better than pairing a Topping D30 DAC with the Schiit Saga preamp (which together would end up being at least $470+ depending on Schiit shipping). Right now though I'm going to try to keep the cost as low as possible and consider something $60 or less. (In other news... I ordered a Dayton Audio 12" powered subwoofer last week which should be here on Monday. I'm really excited about that.)

u/Z3ROGRAV1TYx · 1 pointr/vinyl

Hey, so I picked up a Phillips AF-777 turntable. It is in very nice condition, but the cartridge (Stanton 680EE) sounds very flat and undynamic. It is worn down looking (Not really the needle by just the actual cartridge). I assume it hasn't ever been replaced or maybe once. So I was thinking about replacing it. I cannot go above $100. (So under $100) I want to achieve a Hi-Fi sound. I am currently using a Cambridge Audio Azur 640a v2 and a pair of Vienna Acoustic Bach. I saw the Shure M97xE, but am open to other suggestions on the under $100. (The M97xE is $100).

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Now you may be thinking, what am I using for a phono preamp? Well I had a Kenwood KR-720 I was using, but seeing I picked up the Cambridge, that replaced the Kenwood. But the CA 620a v2 does not have a phono stage. I was looking for a good Hi-Fi quality phono preamp under $100. I looked around and saw this.. ART DJPRE II. It is $38.. and it seems to cheap to be good. But who knows, that's why I am here. I was also looking around on my CL and Ebay, but there hasn't been anything that I've seen.


I want a clean, non-distorted, accurate sound, with a bit of fun and great dynamics. Dynamics are important for me! If it matters, I plan to play music from Disco to Jazz to Vocals to Acoustic to Pop to etc. I enjoy lot's of kinds of music, so I like an all around sound.

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I have been trying to get help with this for a while, and have not recieved any help with purchase advice! I appreciate ANY help avaiable here! Thank you!

u/SoaDMTGguy · 2 pointsr/Metallica

Alright, here's what I've put together for you:

  1. Turntable: Rega P1 ~$450

  2. Speakers: JBL LSR308 - $500

  3. Phono Preamp: Pyle-Pro PP444 - $10.49

  4. Passive Preamp (volume control): Schiit Sys - $49

  5. RCA-to-XLR cable (to connect speakers) 10' - $9.50

    Total: $1,018.99


    Logic:


    Turntable:

    Rega turntables are some of the best in the world, and their quality extends all the way down the line. I have the step-up mode, the P3, and love it. $400 is roughly the entry point for a "good" turntable, which I think is a solid investment given your budget.

    Speakers

    The JBL LSR series is very well regarded on r/audiophile. They are generally considered to be the best powered monitors on the market. Being powered means you don't have to buy a separate amplifier, saving money. If you want to save some money, you can drop down to the LSR305, which has a smaller woofer. It will not have as much bass power as the 308, but it costs $200 less for the pair (NOTE: The Amazon link is for a single speaker, not a pair)

    Phono Preamp

    You'll need one of these, because the signal coming out of the tone arm on the turntable is very low voltage. The phono preamp brings it up to a level that is powerful enough to be amplified further by the speakers. You can spend more, but you don't need more than the Pyle (I have one at home that I'd honestly mail to you, but Amazon Prime is probably cheaper than the cost of shipping for me :P)

    Passive Preamp

    This is a volume knob and a input switch. That's all. Volume knob because the speakers have the volume knob on the back, and have separate knobs per speaker. Didn't think you'd want to mess with that. Two inputs so you can hook up your turntable and your computer, or your phone, etc.

    RCA-to-XLR cable

    Because the JBL monitors are targeted at pro recording studios, they use "balanced" XLR cables instead of traditional RCA. The reasons for doing so are irrelevant, but you will need an adapter cable.

    If that's too much money

    As I said earlier, you could drop down to the JBL LSR305 (again, link is a single speaker, not a pair). That would bring the total down to $818.99. If you wanted to save money, this is where I would do it.

    Another option is to switch turntables to the U-Turn Orbit. It starts at $179, but I'd definitely add the cue lever for $40. I wouldn't spend more on other options though, not worth the money. If you go this route, treat this turntable as your starter, then replace it later.

    If you tell me your local craigslist, I can look around and see if there are any good deals, but the above is going to be pretty hard to beat.

    By all means, feel free to ask me any and all questions. I love doing this kind of research for people, so it's no skin off my back. I want to make sure you enjoy Ride the Lightning in all it's rifftastic glory :D
u/sharkamino · 3 pointsr/vinyl

>I don't have a budget in mind but I also don't know what would constitute a decent deal. What kind of price point should I be looking at for mid-range stuff?

Do they have any vintage 70's receivers that they serviced for $150 to $300? Many have good phono preamps built in. What is your Craigslist city?

If not finding anything used: Refurbished stereo receiver, PIONEER SX-10AE $149.99 $119.99.

Will you also be using the speakers with a TV for better movie and TV sound? Then consider an AV recevier.

Phono preamp if there isn't one build into the receiver: Taking the Guesswork out of Phonostage Gain. The ART DJ Pre II $67 has an adjustable gain dial. The popular Schiit Mani $129 has gain dip switches on the bottom.

Speakers: Bookshelf speakers on stands often have a smaller footprint than floor standing tower speakers.

u/jaredisthegreatest · 1 pointr/vinyl

So I'm moving to college in NYC in the fall, and I've been faced with the issue of how to fit my turntable in my dorm. I didn't want to lug my whole stereo setup there as it would take too much room, but it was looking like I had to. Until just now!

I got this speaker as a graduation gift so I had a speaker to connect my phone to in the dorms. It looks (and is) tiny but the sound quality is honestly pretty great - good stereo image, clear highs, low lows, etc. If I turn it up about halfway and leave it on my bed I can feel the bass vibrating through my mattress. Naturally it isn't up to par with, say, a vintage amp paired with some great speakers and there isn't an EQ on it (or at least I haven't discovered one), but sacrifices ya know?
I connected my turntable's stereo jacks to the preamp I already had for my existing setup (found here), then ran an [adaptor cable](https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Audio-Cable-Splitter-1-Mini/dp/B00004Z5CP/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1465788718&sr=1-4&keywords=stereo+to+aux is the one I use) to the aux input on the speaker. Works like a charm!

I thought this would come in handy for anyone moving to an area with little space (like a dorm) who still wants to hold on to their record collection. Happy listening!

u/murpes · 1 pointr/vinyl

Excellent choice on the BS22s! They're fantastic speakers. I bought a pair for what I expected to be a temporary, transitional set, but I enjoy them so much I now have no intention of replacing them.

That Lepei amp will get the job done. It's not really an "audiophile" amp, meaning if you're going to sit there with a frown on your face and listen to test tones and not music, you'll notice some of its limitations. But in that price range, there's little else that will drive your speakers with reasonable fidelity. It's kind of designed for casual listening, not critical listening. A lot of people that do critical listening assume everyone does, and neither has anything to do with enjoying the music. Your speakers have a more meaningful impact on the quality of sound that the amplifier does. The Pioneer speakers are a tier or two above the Lepai amp in terms of quality, but I'd rather have that than the inverse.

For around $100, there's this Parts Express amp. It's a pretty generic amp; you can find the same guts in a different case from other companies for about the same price. I have no direct experience with this amp, but I suspect it would be quite an upgrade from the Lepei. Someone else made an excellent recommendation for a Yamaha integrated amp.

Another variable being the outputs on your turntable. Most turntables put out a signal that's far too weak for even an amplifier to handle, so they need to be "pre-amped" along with some other processing. Some turntables have this built in, some don't. Likewise, some amps have this circuitry, some don't - most modern amps don't, including the Lepei and Part Express amps mentioned here. In this case you'll need a pre-amp that sits in-between your turntable and amplifier. This one is a popular budget choice, and one I can personally recommend. Some forum-searching will reveal others.

The mentioned powered speakers are another option, especially when getting more bang for your buck. Down the road it can be limiting - you can't upgrade your speakers without buying an amp, too. There's also the whole pre-amp question with these as well. Still, they're a great way to get busy listening to your records.

There's a lot to consider and it can seem overwhelming, but don't let that interfere with the fun of spinning the discs. A lot of us around here enjoy music and dicking around with equipment, and love offering our opinions on both.

u/zeagan · 1 pointr/BudgetAudiophile

Oh sorry, it's hard to not go all jargon-crazy sometimes.

So studio monitors are designed for mixing audio, as such they're designed to be very very accurate. The flat response means if you plot a line representing all the audible frequencies from bass to the highest treble the line would be flat, so no boosted bass or lowered midrange or any of those things people usually fiddle with knobs to do. Just dead accurate, which lots of people think they want until they hear it, mids and highs can get a little tiring to listen to and is sometimes considered not a "warm" sound.

B&W is Bowers and Wilkins, a very good brand and I just meant find some from the 1980's because they crop up for sale used from time to time and sound great (check craigslist for B&W, Mission, Elac, Mirage, PSB and Wharfedale). Other options that aren't used would be Cambridge Audio SX50's, Elac B6.2's, and Wharfedale Diamond 210's. (Tons of reviews of all of those out there) As for an amp, the SMSL SA50 is plenty for most people for normal listening levels.

As for a DAC, you wouldn't necessarily need one for active monitors, but you would definitely need some interesting cables like these shitty ones. One of the advantages of pro-audio gear is they use balanced audio signals which makes long runs of cable safe from electromagnetic interference/noise/hum, most people don't have runs long enough for it to matter in their house but they look cool and "pro". Also to actually have a balanced signal going through those XLR cables you need a balanced output, which is where a DAC with balanced outputs or volume controller would come in. Here's a cheap ok controller.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to talk you out of studio monitors, speakers are super super super subjective and if I encountered a set of studio monitors that really blew my skirt up I'd probably buy all the balanced cables and some huge volume knob to be able to listen to them and be happy as a clam. Just hasn't happened yet.

u/chickadeeshits · 2 pointsr/vinyl

I have just purchased my first turntable, a Technics SL-B2, from eBay, and it will be here in ten days. So now I have ten days to put together a preamp +amp +speaker set-up-thing that really freaks me out. Which leads me to my questions for y'all...


Option 1

Right now I have these things in my amazon cart. I'm really just trying to get my feet wet with this stuff (without breaking the bank), but I don't know if these things go together/would work as a whole. My main worry is the fact that I have no idea how to do a ground wire... I'm relatively confident that I could connect the TT to the preamp, and the preamp to the amp, but from there I'm lost (any advice would be welcome).


Option 2

This is a craigslist entry somewhat-local to me (about 1.5 hours away), that came up when I typed in "phono receiver". Is this a preamp, amp, and speaker all in one? Is it too good to be true? How would this then connect to the TT?

Background

Having already purchased the record player, I'm hoping to keep the rest of the set-up below $120, and preferably closer to $80. I understand these are very slim margins, but my hope is to start with the bargain-basics, and to then (hopefully) upgrade piece-by-piece with the coming-Christmases and Birthdays.

Also, given that I do plan to upgrade my set-up in pieces, I'm leaning towards Option 1 because it seems it would be easier to swap out parts over time...

Overall

I'm just hoping for general advice, well wishes, whatever y'all can give me. I've done a lot of research but without all the parts in my hands I just can't visualize putting it all together, and could use y'all's experience. Really, I'm just itching to finally play some records!

Please help! And thanks in advance:)

u/vaper7777 · 8 pointsr/BudgetAudiophile

Cool setup!

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  1. Stand in the middle of the room and clap your hands once. If you hear any sort of echo, that means the room is "hot" and needs some sound dampening. The longer the echo, the more dampening. You can do this in super simple ways, like putting a rug on the floor and adding wall hangings. I'm talking garage sale-level stuff. Don't spend a lot of money on those, all you are trying to do is get rid of some of the reflections. This should help you hear what's coming out of the speakers, rather than what is bouncing around the room.

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  2. Find a CD that has sine-waves of different frequencies. Or go here: http://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/ (plug your computer into the system). Play some notes in the bass (and mid) range and walk around the room. You will notice that your bass (and mid) is quieter in certain places. Those are called "nodes." You kind of want things so that you don't have a lot of these. The reason is so that you can be in different parts of the room and hear about the same thing. Try moving the speakers around and pointing them in different directions to see what that does. Try moving the "stage left" sub to the corner kind of behind the piano, for example. You might even be able to put both subs there. Nodes actually form at all frequencies (that's why cell phone reception can be strong in one part of a room but not in another), but the bass and mid are the ones that are pesky and noticeable.

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  3. Try running your speakers out of phase. Switch the positive and negative leads on *one end* of *one speaker* only (doesn't matter which). Some people like this effect (I don't). But if there's a lot of reflections in your room, it may be a simple trick. Try it with your subs too. It won't hurt anything. Your subs should have a phase toggle switch, actually.

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  4. If there's a place in your signal path for analog - try running this: https://www.amazon.com/FX-Audio-TUBE-01-Preamplifier-Black/dp/B01HEQJGPC - I have one and I like how it makes things sound. To me at least, it does actually make things sound warmer and more fluid.

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  5. What sounds good to you is what you are aiming for. I used to think that I liked super accurate sound. But I found that it fatigues me after long listening sessions. Now I like sound where I can still place the instruments (sound stage), but it doesn't need to be clinical.

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    Source: my original major in undergrad was audio recording engineering. After that I did sound for a couple of nightclubs and churches. I learned super simple things (like speaker placement) make a huge difference.

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    Also - when you do any sort of evaluation of your speaker placement and or room changes, listen at the level that you plan to listen to things at. For example, if you plan to listen loud - then test loud (and vice versa). The way we hear things changes with volume. That's why music at low levels sounds like it lacks bass. The bass is still there, but our hearing is tuned to hear frequencies that are closer to the sound of a human voice or baby crying. This is also why certain recordings sound crappy at low volume, but excellent at high volume (a lot of metal is like this). Those recordings were mixed at high volume. At low volume they will sound like they have no bass.

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u/AM_key_bumps · 2 pointsr/vinyl

OK. Here we go.

At your price point and experience level we should stick with solid state. tubes are more expensive and potentially temperamental. your speakers are solid, vintage big box bangers. Your room may not be too huge, but you need to push a decent amount of air to get those speakers to sound good. So you need at least 50 watts per channel.

Vintage: when in doubt, go pioneer. they sound great, look awesome and are built like tanks. I would recommend either an SX-750 or SX-780. Anything lower on the food chain might not be able to get your speakers going, and anything higher is going to be out of your price range. The 780 is a slightly later model and might cost a little less, but with no real difference in performance (IMHO). Unfortunately, getting a specific model means looking on eBay. Some folks have gotten burned buying receivers on eBay, I myself have been very lucky. Just make sure the unit has been recently serviced, and that the seller has a positive feedback rating AND SELLS A LOT OF ELECTRONICS.

If you do not want to go eBay, that means thrifts/yard sales/flea markets. Just look for something clean that has the WPC you need (at least 50 as indicated above). Look for the usual suspects, Pioneer, Marantz, Sansui, Technics. Also keep an eye peeled for Sony, Harman Kardon, Kenwood, JVC, Aiwa, etc.

2 things to keep in mind when looking for a vintage receiver:

  1. Is it silver faced? It seems silly to judge a receiver on looks, but remember that silver facing was the style in the 70s, which was the golden age of hi-fi. When the faces started to turn black was when shit started to go down hill with consumer audio. Is every silver receiver good and every black one lousy? Not at all. But is this a good way to quickly get an idea about a receiver? Definitely.

  2. Is it heavy? This is another good method for quickly judging vintage audio gear. In general, light weight means bad.

    New: a great new receiver in your price range is the Onkyo TX-8255. Has the 50 WPC your speakers crave. Also has a built in phono preamp (which you need for spinning records) which most modern receivers lack. As it is new there is no sweating shady eBay sellers, or worrying about it dying 3 days after you hook it up. But most importantly, it has a decent, neutral sound. Amazon has it for around $200

    http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-8255B-TX-8255-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B001AMSPQI/ref=zg_bs_667846011_15

    Another nice new receiver that might fit your needs is the Sherwood RX-4105. At 100 WPC you will be banging it nice and loud. It will require an external phono preamp, but at $120 you can afford one.

    http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-4105-Stereo-Receiver-Black/dp/B0002EPWC0/ref=sr_1_24?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1313428014&sr=1-24

    If you go with the Sherwood, get this phono-pre, the Artcessories ART DJPRE II . You will not do better for under $100.

    http://www.amazon.com/ART-II-Preamplifier-Outputs-Switchable/dp/B000AJR482/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1376331900&sr=1-2&keywords=artcessories
u/checkerdamic · 3 pointsr/vinyl

Dump the Numark, but the other three will work fine. They aren't top of the line but will definitely get the job done. The transaudio TT does not come with a headshell or cartridge so you need to factor that in. You might be able to talk the sellers down to $100. Make sure you demo absolutely everything when you check them out: TEST TEST TEST. If you can't demo it, walk away. Also, they make some apps to check the speed of TTs: RPM, iRPM, RPM calculator. They aren't 100% accurate so if it says 33.2 or 33.4, you're probably fine. If it says something like 32 or 35, the speed is off.

Also, the Technics SL-D3 /u/RecipeForIceCubes posted in Grand Rapids is a good table, but it's like 50 miles away so that's up to you.

Next you will need a preamp: a fairly cheap one is the ART DJ PREII for $49 on Amazon--if you want to buy a cheap preamp for under $20 you could but it will be something you should upgrade ASAP when you can.

Right now you are not necessarily focused on a huge sound upgrade since you will be plugging the TT into that Panasonic all-in-one you have. Just make sure you have a TT that you can begin to build a setup around down the line and once the rest of your system has outgrown the TT you can upgrade it.

Good luck.

u/billybombill · 3 pointsr/vinyl

I have an SL-B3 (belt driven, but similar to the D3) with a M97xE, and I'm very happy with how it sounds. Unfortunately I currently don't have a way to hook up my Q701's to it so I can't comment on the sound signature with them combined. The Vali will probably add some nice warmness to the sound so my experience would sound a bit different anyways. I'd imagine it will sound pretty good though :)

I don't think you can go wrong with either the 2M Red or the M97xE, I've heard people say that the the 2M has a brighter sound, while the Shure's high's are rolled off. I can't say I've ever been able to hear them side by side though to confirm this.

And yes you will need a preamp to boost the turntable's phono output up to a line level signal. The ART DJ II is pretty good for the price.

u/Graceful_cumartist · 1 pointr/vinyl

I suggest the Pro-ject pre amp

For speakers I don't know, I have a pair of Audio Pro addon t8's but they seem to be way pricier in US. Basically anything that fits your budget and has gotten favorable review usually is enough to get a nice sound out of your TT.

If you want to save a bit on the pre amp then you might wanna take a look at TCC TC-750, that would also do the trick, it is now for a pretty reasonable reduced price so be quick.

Speakers that I can recommend without a reservation would be these audio engine A2+. They are solid small powered speakers that would do your vinyls justice.

All together the TCC 750 with the A2+ now add up just shy of 300. This would be setup that with your TT will go a long way before a need to upgrade although I would add a sub when you get the chance.

If you want to save more, you could go for these Mackie CR4 but you can't add a powered sub to these, use them for your PC trough USB and don't have an option to add wireless support later. So it comes with a lack of features.

u/GothamCountySheriff · 4 pointsr/vinyl

Because your receiver doesn't have a phono stage, and unless your turntable has a built-in phono preamp (neither of the Technics you listed have a preamp), you will need an external one.

Behringer makes a basic, but solid one:

http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-PP400-BEHRINGER-MICROPHONO/dp/B000H2BC4E

And if you want to step up in price a little, the ART DJ II Pre is well proven and very good (it's the one I use):

http://www.amazon.com/ART-II-Preamplifier-Output-Switchable/dp/B000AJR482/

To me, both tables seem a bit overpriced considering you can't test the working functionality of either. Of the two, I personally would lean toward the SL-B2, as it has a cartridge (assuming that only the needle needs to be replaced as you said) and the dustcover. A replacement stylus and belt are what you will need to get it up and going.

For the SL-B2 a belt will run about $10-15 and an entry-level stylus will generally run about $10-20 depending on the cart. The stock carts on Technics tables were usually pretty good. For the SL-D1 you will need a replacement cartridge. The very entry level Audio Technica 3400 cartridge-stylus combo runs about $35. Even with that you still don't have a dust cover, which substantially reduces the resale value of a turntable. You should be able to haggle both prices down, as both are project tables that need work. If you decide to test out the SL-B2, you can bring a few different size large, wide rubber bands to use as a makeshift belt and see if the platter spins.

And as an FIY: there is nothing inherently wrong with belt-drive turntables. The majority of Pro Ject, Rega and many of the vintage Pioneers (amongst others) that people have on this forum all use belt-drive mechanisms. Like any technology, there are going to be good and bad implementations of both belt-drive and direct-drive mechanisms on turntables. Your best best is to research the specific turntable and see if it has any known problems.

u/rpbtz · 2 pointsr/vinyl

An amplifier (or power amplifier) will help power your speakers if they are passive speakers. If your speakers are active/powered they have their own power supply and built-in amplifier. A receiver is basically a power amplifier with a built-in radio tuner.

For an phono preamplifier you could check the Art DJPre II. It fits your budget. Also I only checked Amazon so you might want to see if you can find it cheaper elsewhere - prices seem to vary a lot on that one for some reason.

Your next decision should probably be whether to buy passive or active speakers. With active speakers you can skip the power amp/receiver and hook them straight up to the phono preamp, but the prices are usually a little higher than passive speakers for the same quality. Also there generally seems to be a better selection in different price ranges when it comes to passive speakers.

As for speakers - anything you might save from your preamp/amp budget I'd move over to your speaker budget. That's where the sound comes out and is often where you will see (well.. hear) the greatest improvement in sound quality.

You could also skip the external preamp and go for an amp like this Denon which has a built-in phono preamp.

u/mellovibes75 · 1 pointr/battlestations

So this may be a bit involved for /r/battlestations but for speakers you have two types: passive and active.

Passive speakers are literally just speakers in that they have to be hooked up to an amplifier to work. These are the most common type of speaker you see out there in home theater or stereo set ups, higher quality for less money but you have to have the amp separate.

Active speakers mean they have amplifiers built into the speaker (there will usually be a power/volume knob on the speakers themselves). 9/10 times these are what is hooked up a typical computer. They are smaller and don't require an external amp which is perfect for the average comp set up.

A typical analog set up would go: turntable -> integrated amp (contains pre-amp + power amp, must have phono input) -> passive speakers. It sounds like you have active speakers. If you do, then you would need to pick up a phono pre-amp (this is a popular one) The set up would go turntable -> pre-amp -> active speakers.

The Crosley has all of those things in one package, which while convenient, really impacts quality in the process. So if you could find a used turntable (bonus if the owner recently replaced the needle/stylus) and pick up the pre-amp, you should be golden.

u/niceflipflop · 2 pointsr/techsupport

Great question.

Now that I'm in front of my computer, I found the manual for your specific modules.

You can see where the input port leads to a wall plate module with standard RCA inputs (among other things). You're basically doing the same thing, only with a much more simple module that only includes RCA. And obviously, it's not installed in a remote location. It's just hanging there in the closet.

You've also got a secondary distribution module, but from what I can tell, it's daisy-chained to the first via the 'Cascade Out' port, and it's just because they needed one more speaker output.

What's important is that you'll see in that diagram that the input jacks are clearly accepting a 'line-level out'. That's another term for 'pre-amp'. Higher-end receivers have a set of outputs that bypass the amplifier so that you can provide a clean audio source to another system, like the OnQ.

Unfortunately, your Sony doesn't appear to have line-out. I have a Yamaha that's pretty much the exact same unit. I was also frustrated by the lack of line-out jacks. I needed them for some wireless speakers.

There's definitely devices out there that convert speaker-outputs to pre-amp. They were particularly common back in the day for car stereo installs, because people wanted to add aftermarket amps/woofers to their stock systems and needed an unamplified signal to work with.

But they're not ideal because they introduce noise. It's just not a very clean signal.

It would seem odd to me if someone had a pricey whole-house system like this, only to provide it a muddy audio source via a line-out adapter. But it's doable, I'm sure.

Here's an option...

If you plan to use the Sony as a switcher for TV sources, and you want the house speakers to just play whatever is on your TV, you could tap into the HDMI output on its way to the TV, using one of these.

It's what I used to push the TV audio to the wireless speakers and it worked like a charm. HDMI output isn't amplified, so it satisfies what you need for the OnQ, as well.

Of course, you'd either have to keep all your sources in that closet with the receiver and run an HDMI all the way to your TV. Or keep all that in the living room and run a long RCA cable into the closet.

Here's the catch...

I'm betting anything that like my Yamaha, the HDMI can only output HDMI sources. So this won't let you route, for instance, your iPod connected to your Sony into the OnQ. But if you listen to online music via Chromecast, FireStick, Roku, etc., then this could totally work for you.

u/Buck_j · 4 pointsr/vinyl

Yes, you will need a phono preamp with an Orbit Plus and your receiver. I recommend this one. It is very highly regarded in audiophile forums in its price range. I would not recommend going any cheaper.

That receiver and those speakers are perfectly adequate to get you started, both are considered good entry-level options. Pairing a subwoofer with those speakers will provide a marked increase in sound quality on the low-end. I would recommend doing so. I recommend this sub, as it is a fantastic value and will serve you very well.

Here is some information about hooking up a subwoofer to a stereo receiver that does not have a dedicated subwoofer output. Hint: just use speaker wire in the "B" terminals.

Looks like you have yourself a decent starter setup which should serve you well. Have fun.

EDIT: get your speakers off the damn floor. Either get some stands or a platform to isolate your turntable from vibrations caused by the speakers if you want to put them on top of your shelf (platform probably isn't terribly necessary with bookshelf speakers unless you play your music very loudly).

u/Meph616 · 1 pointr/vinyl

I remember doing some research on this sub before buying mine, some good reviews for the Behringer 4400 was tossed around frequently. So I got that. It did its job, but it had a pretty weak output honestly.

I then did some more digging and stumbled across the ART DJPRE III Phono Plus. I got this one because the gain/output was adjustable, and I've used one similar in my local record shop and liked that feature. Plus it has the function of hooking it up to my computer via a USB port and transferring some of my records I don't have digital copies of.

If the USB function doesn't sound necessary then I'd look into the DJPRE III which looks to be mostly the same minus the USB.

Volume wise if I plugged in my iPod with the Behringer it could be at '45' on the amplifier while I would have to max out to '70' to have a similar volume output. Now with the ART my records are audibly as loud as my digital files. Clarity wise I have a modest system so it's clean along with being powerful enough for my needs. For reference I have a Project Debut Carbon turntable, Sony STRDH750 for my receiver, and ELAC B6 "bookshelf" speakers (bookshelf in name only, they're large but fantastic for the price).

u/sensual_maths · 1 pointr/audiophile

Put this in tech help, however it may be better off here...

I've got a pair of Elac UB5s driven by an Emotiva A-300, been running my PC through my Yulong DAC into my system which was worked out nicely using the volume controls on my PC

However, i've just bought a new TV and would like to hook it up to the system as well for movies and gaming, except I don't currently have a pre amp for volume control. How high end do I need to go on this component? I've been looking at a cheap option like this: https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-Fully-Balanced-Single-Ended-Pre-Amplifier-Controller/dp/B01M4I9EOK/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 with very basic volume control, but I know pairing it up with another Emotiva component, like the PT-100 pre amp is going to be superior https://emotiva.com/products/pt-100 .

Question is, how superior are we talking here? Will shelling out an extra $250 bucks be worth it in this case? I have to imagine the answer is yes, but can anyone tell me why? (Besides. obviously, quality components etc...)

Thanks!

u/DaDouglar · 2 pointsr/audiophile

I'm new to audiophile gear in general and I need some help with my setup.

If anyone could help me find a budget way of doing this that would be great.

I currently have a Yamaha v683 AVR, I went for an AVR because this is my media centre. It's connected to the tv, the consoles, the pc, the cable box, and the music source, as I always intended this to be my media hub. So currently I have the receiver connected to the Kef ls50s via banana plug, but what I want to do right now is add 2 Monoblock amplifiers for my ls50.

I know mono blocks for ls50 is a bit extreme but there's a second reason too, I eventually want to get the kef blade if possible. I listen strictly to stereo, better for music. So currently I'm looking at thinking of getting 2 Vidar's in monoblock for my ls50, but the problem is my receiver doesn't have xlr outs, and apparently all monoblock setups need an xlr input.

I found this, as I was thinking of using this as a in-between my receiver and the Vidars, as it gives me two xlr outs.

https://www.amazon.ca/Nobsound-Fully-Balanced-Single-Ended-Pre-Amplifier-Controller/dp/B01MXC9HHW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1539216924&sr=8-6&keywords=balanced+preamp

or this, but its a lot more expensive when I factor in the prices of the 2 Vidars

https://www.amazon.ca/Cambridge-Audio-DacMagic-Digital-Analogue/dp/B0074EGIGU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539247998&sr=8-1&keywords=Cambridge+Audio+DacMagic+Plus

I don't know how that will do, but if anyone could suggest a better quality/price ratio gear for me that would be great.

My other question is, should I get the Vidars or something else, as I've said I want to get the kef blade eventually. I would prefer to buy one amp setup and just live with it until the end game if possible. I know the Vidar is more than enough for the ls50, and probably most speakers under 10k. But I hear the original kef blade takes 600w at 2ohm, during its lowest frequency, so should I get something like emotive xpa mono blocks at 1000w RMS at 4ohm.

Or should I just buy the Vidars, or whatever you guys suggest as a better power for money, now and just wait until when I actually purchase the kef to do something about it.

I know you're going to ask, the reason I really want mono blocks is because of symmetry, and I like the fact that each amp is isolated from each other, and there isn't crosstalk through one power supply.

I completely know I'm a noob when it comes to audiophile, but I just fell in love with the ls50s, they were the most amazing sounding speakers I've heard, they were so transparent and brings out all the flaws in bad music. I kind of regret the AV receiver purchase, but I also needed it as my hub, anyone can help me that'd be great.

u/doombot11 · 3 pointsr/vinyl

Speakers should be most of your budget as they have by far the biggest impact on sound quality. I built my entire system for around the same amount, and incidentally also considered the RP6.

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u/Leontinthepro · 3 pointsr/vinyl

Thank you. Yes the Thriftshopping is not such a viable option for me here in Sweden. There is one store I know of but I dont know if its a good idea to wait once in a blue moon when a good turntables gets sent in. Im not even sure what old turntables would be a great find or what level of equipment suits me. I couldnt weigh the pros and cons with my knowledge so to speak.

Its really confusing too, going around forums and looking at reviews. One minute someone says the Debut Carbon is the best for its price range and eliminates vibration with its tone arm, bla bla. The next minute I find someone saying its barely an OK purchase for the price and sounds terrible in the mid range. Then I just feel that maybe its not such a good purchase, its like every review changes my view so easily ;^D

But if there is a good online store for vintage equipment, at least in Europe, then I could look around there. But I dont know of any good sites.

Also wouldnt it be enough to have a Phono Amp so that I wouldnt need a pre amp? https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007DB5I60?psc=1&smid=A16D1Q3U7G1XSE This item seems of the same brand and a bit more expensive, but there are no reviews and I again have no idea whats better about it, what would you say?

u/BTsBaboonFarm · 2 pointsr/vinyl

Yeah, the LP60 definitely has draw backs and may not take the best care of your records. With a collection that size I'd definitely upgrade the table, and probably go to speakers rather than the soundbard. If $300 is your budget, that can still work. What Id recommend in that range is:

Turntable: - U-Turn Orbit Basic for $179

Phono Preamplifier: - Art Pro DJPRE II for $33

Speakers: - Edifier R1280T for $99.99

This would be a really nice entry level, truly functional, setup that would give you some really nice sound and take good care of your records. For ~$320 after shipping, that's great deal for all new gear.

u/Midgetforsale · 1 pointr/vintageaudio

Looks like that stereo only puts out 50 watts total, so 25 watts per channel. That's pretty low, but it shouldn't hurt your speakers. You could use the stereo and those speakers to play cds, stuff off your phone, etc. What you cannot do at this point is use this stereo with your dad's turntable. A turntable outputs at very low power. You could plug it into the stereo aux input, but the sound would be very small. You have two options if you want to use the turntable, first you could buy a phono preamp. I wouldn't spend less than 50 dollars and at that range this one is recommended often. You would plug the turntable into this preamp, and then use rca cables to plug the preamp in to the stereo. That would work.... okay. The stereo will still be your real weak point here. So your other option is to find a different receiver with a built in phono preamp. What did your dad use to power to turntable and speakers? If he has an old receiver left over from the 80s, it could be a real gem! Even if it is a lower end receiver from back then, it will probably produce much better sound than that Walmart stereo. If he doesn't have the receiver anymore, go check out thrift shops. You can almost always find vintage stereo equipment for pretty cheap at thrift shops and flea markets. Look for names you've heard of before and you'll probably be fine. See if they will let you test it first. Make sure it powers on, hook it up to some cheap speakers if they let you and see what kind of noises it makes. Turn the dials. A lot of old receivers will produce static when you turn the dials, but this is an easy fix (spray it with deoxit!). Even if you can find like a Denon or Onkyo or something from the black plastic era, if it has a phono input you'll be better off.

u/gatesphere · 1 pointr/vinyl

I am! I'm using the ART USB Phono Plus and I love it. It is admittedly overkill, though -- internally it has the same preamp circuit as the ART DJPre II.

I grabbed the USB Phono Plus over the DJPre II because the Phono Plus also has a USB output and a built in headphone amp. My setup didn't have a headphone output and I wanted to listen at night without waking the neighbors. The USB output is also a plus because I like to digitize some of my thrift finds for kicks, and I want to be able to do that even after I eventually rip out the built-in preamp (haven't done that quite yet, but I've been inside my TT -- looks super simple, even with my rusty soldering skills).

I'm really impressed with the ART, though. It has great sound for my price range. Much nicer than the built-in preamp to my ears.

u/tvtoo · 3 pointsr/cordcutters

Your best solution is a new TV (instead of a 'monitor' like the Marantz).

Your second best solution is:

u/badger28 · 2 pointsr/vinyl

I can try, but I'm terrible at reviews. The formatting can change if someone can think of something better.

Item Name:ART DJPRE II Phono Preamplifier

Item Type: Pre-Amp

For $49 USD this little pre-amp isn't bad for starting out. Don't get me wrong the amp isn't terrible and probably one of the better ones you can find for under $50. I'd only use this to start out and see if you will stick with records. Other than the Cart this will be one of the first things I'm going to upgrade. the downsides of the device are it does not have a power button so it is always on and has a pretty bright light. Also the Wall wart is kinda big.



Pros:

  • Cheap
  • Small
  • Easy to use


    Cons:

  • No power switch
  • Light is always on and bright
  • Wall wart is a little big for my liking


    Rating

    7/10
u/jimbob_9245 · 1 pointr/vinyl

My mom upgraded her stero setup a couple years ago and I incorporated it with our TV system so the audio from our TV plays out of the stero. She had a turntable with her old receiver that still works, but isn't compatible with our new stero. After doing some research, I think the issue is that we need a preamp to connect the old turntable to the new receiver (I guess the old receiver had one built in). Would it just be easier to get a new turn table? (the old one is probably over 20 years old) even though it is still functional? Am I right about needing a preamp? I was looking at this preamp. I know my mom likes the "warm" (not sure how to describe it) sound of vinyl records but she is by no means an audiophile and doesn't listen to records very often so I don't need anything to premium. I'm looking to get this all set up for her for mother's day, and I will be paying for it (I'm a student in highschool) so I won't be able to afford anything too expensive. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Here's some pictures of her old reciever, the turn table, the connections that the turntable uses (it doesn't have a power plug?), and the new reciever that we plan on plugging it into.

u/chilighost · 2 pointsr/vinyl

I'm wondering if I can get some help/advise in regards to speakers for my Fluance RT81 that is currently on order. I have narrowed it down to these two sets: Fluance Signature Series Bookshelf Speakers: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A5UB4JU/ref=twister_B01BKWQW3A?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Klipsch R-15M Bookshelf Speakers: https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-15M-Bookshelf-Speaker-Pair/dp/B00LMF41IY/

Both seem to be passive speakers so I would need an amp as well apparently. I don't plan to connect them to a AV receiver - just the turntable and speakers. Can anyone recommend a good amp for this setup? I found this one on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/ART-DJPREII-Audio-Turntable-Preamplifier/dp/B000AJR482/) which seems to get decent reviews.

I am new to vinyl but I want speakers that have some good bass to them (without a sub) since I won't be connecting to a receiver. Which of these speakers will provide the best highs and enough bass?

Any recommendations would be helpful - thank you!

u/riley212 · 1 pointr/audiophile

Philharmonic affordable accuracy monitors $200, probably the best speakers for 300 or less. good bass too, you will probably be pretty happy without a sub for a while.

SMSL SMSL Q5 blackQ5 2x50W Amplifier DAC $135, this has a usb dac for your computer and RCA line level inputs for a phono preamp. 50 wpc wont be deafening but will power those bookshelfs well enough.

U turn orbit TT $300 this is really the cheapest TT i would recommend getting. it has a good needle and allows you to make the proper adjustments so you don't destroy your records. i would not bother with the Audio technica. if this is too much, spend that money on a better amp and dac separates.

Art DJPRE II $50 does what is is supposed to do.

u/arcella12 · 1 pointr/vinyl

So I just received my first turntable today and set everything up and I love it! However, I have noticed a lot of distortion when the music gets loud across all levels. It becomes very difficult to differentiate each layer. I feel like my tracking weight and anti-skate may be the culprits but I can't figure out the perfect combination of the two.

My setup is as follows:

  • Turntable: Fluance RT82
  • Preamp: ART DJPREII (grounded to turntable)
  • Receiver: Denon AVR X2100w
  • Speakers: Bowers & Wilkins 683 s2 Tower Speakers

    I'm really hoping I didn't accidentally damage the stylus during setup because it did accidentally fall into the rubber mat. The sound is great when the music is at a quieter point so I don't think it would be that, but I could be wrong. Any help is appreciated!
u/Elstir19 · 1 pointr/vinyl

Needing help with new set up for my wife’s Technics SL-BD20

17 years ago my wife and I got married and moved into a new house and my wife’s old Technics SL-BD20 turntable never got unpacked. We had small children at the time and not much room.

Now the kids are older and we still don’t have much room, but she’s always been a big fan of vinyl and as a Christmas present I’d like to get her up and running again!

I considered buying a new turntable (the LP120), but she’s always cherished her SL-BD20 turntable, so I am pretty set on keeping this turntable. If she really gets back into vinyl we can upgrade in a couple years.

And I want to keep the whole process as simple and straightforward as possible since I really have no clue what I am doing!

Today, I plugged in the turntable and everything appears to be functioning as it should.

She has a Sony LBT D108 stereo with direct phono hookup and some large-ish Sony SS-D110 speakers. I want to ditch these and figure out a smaller set up for the time being.

I’d like to keep the footprint as small as possible and as I am a woodworker I may even build her a cabinet and shelf unit to house everything.

So from my research it appears I need a pre amp and some powered speakers. And a new cartridge. And probably a new belt to have on hand.

I was wanting to spend about $50 on the pre amp. From doing a little research this seems to be a good one: ART Pro Audio DJPRE II https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AJR482/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1MCQTNZBUHMQG&coliid=I3A0D31NILP92W

Another $25 on a cartridge: Audio-Technica AT92ECD

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00006HO3L/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1MCQTNZBUHMQG&coliid=I3N3SNC9BX4PUV&psc=1

And then perhaps some smallish powered bookshelf speakers for around $100 or perhaps a bit more if it makes sense. I could really use some suggestions on speakers.

I’m looking to maybe spend a couple hundred bucks total to get her back to listening to vinyl.

Sorry, I am a total noob and have zero experience with stereos etc. Will I need any other adaptors or speaker wire or anything else?

u/msuts · 0 pointsr/BudgetAudiophile

IMO, neither of those models are really audiophile level. Both have lackluster specs and built-in preamps, both of which will rob you of sound quality, even if you don't realize it at first.

/u/hanger_s already mentioned the vintage route, and that's the best way to go. So many rock-solid turntables were made in the late 70s and early 80s that work perfectly to this day and outperform their newer counterparts in many ways.

In the interest of speed stability, look for quartz locked TTs. [[EDIT: The reason I say this is because many new TTs are belt-drives with unimpressive wow/flutter specs, meaning the general speed of the turntable is less steady. Vintage quartz-locked models are often an order of magnitude better. The Fluance and AT both have wow/flutter ratings of 0.2% WRMS, while a vintage quartz model will measure closer to 0.025% WRMS. Even non-quartz models like the Technics SL-D3 measured to about 0.03%. And vintage belt-drive models measured around 0.05% - 0.07%. I don't know why, but speed stability seems to have fallen by the wayside with many modern TT manufacturers.]]

When picking vintage, you also have the option of going for a P-mount arm or a half-inch mount arm. The P-mount is more convenient, the TTs themselves tend to be cheaper, and the cartridges are plug-and-play, but half-inch cartridge options are MUCH broader and the ceiling is higher in terms of quality. Personally, I recommend the half-inch mount. There aren't a ton of P-mount options these days.

[[EDIT: Actually, there are some very good high-end P-mount carts available to you if you really felt like buying a P-mount TT. See these two:

https://www.lpgear.com/product/LPGATSER05L.html

https://www.lpgear.com/product/LPGATSER05S.html ]]

Something like this, while not cosmetically in perfect shape (with a cracked dust cover), will outperform the Fluance and the AT soundly and is just over $100 including shipping:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Quartz-Direct-Drive-PL-740-Automatic-Turntable-Record-Player/372306610272

Once you have a TT, you can plug it into the phono input of your receiver. If your receiver doesn't have a phono input, you'll have to add a phono preamp. This is one of the best budget options:

https://www.amazon.com/ART-DJPREII-Audio-Turntable-Preamplifier/dp/B000AJR482

u/Saint_JohnKuhn · 1 pointr/vinyl

i have had one for nearly 2 years and love the fucking thing. i have the grado black cartridge. no cue lever, it would be nice as i'm a little nervous letting friends drop/raise the needle. i've been using it for so long that im confident that i can drop/raise safely.

I have my uturn running to an art djpre preamp running to powered AudioEngine A5 bookshelf speakers. Super simple setup that sounds great

u/eppic123 · 3 pointsr/audiophile

The Audio Technica is a great turntable! But the build in preamp and the fixed cable would be an absolute no-go for me. So I'd definitely suggest you getting the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon. I have the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit myself, and I love it!

As for the preamp: There are lots of great preamp, like the NAD PP 2i, Cambridge 651P or Musical Fidelity V-LPS II, but I think those are a little bit too expensive for you. Maybe you should take a look at this one. It's definitely not the best, but ART usualy has some great value for the money.

u/DeweyCheatem-n-Howe · 2 pointsr/vinyl

Not a problem. My biggest recommendation is always "try before you buy" - any CL seller should be willing to demo the unit if asked, and that should protect you from needing to worry about fixing stuff.

A few recommendations:

Audio-Technica LP120 for $150 - a new table, usually $300, two steps up from the C100 or the 120's little brother the LP60. Has built-in phono preamp. Fully manual (no push button to play or autoreturn features).

Another LP120 for the same price, price "negotiable"

Yet another LP120 for $140 (yes it's weird that so many are available, but it's a solid table)

Pioneer PL-50 for $75. Needs a belt, but belts are crazy easy to put in. $15 for a belt on Amazon. Would need a preamp - I'd drop $50 on the ART DJPREII. This is the table I'd get, frankly; I love Pioneer tables, I love the look of these (veneer) wood plinths, and just... I love this table for a very reasonable price. You MIGHT need to replace the stylus - not the cartridge, just the stylus - but you were considering upgrading the cart with the Crosley anyways.

u/kb3pxr · 2 pointsr/vinyl

Okay, The best option would be TT -> Preamp (if not built into the receiver) -> Home theater receiver. Since you want to avoid the home theater receiver you will either need the whole kit. Easy Option: Turntable -> Pre-Amp -> High End computer speakers. Since some high end computer speakers have RCA aux inputs you are set.

Your second best option would be a second receiver (with a second set of speakers) for the turntable. Many receivers (especially vintage) of any decent quality will have the Preamp built in to the phono input. Unfortunately this will likely be outside of your budget (especially brand new) or time frame (especially used).

If you have good speakers on the home theater system and can turn off all the special processing, I suggest using a phono (rare) input on it or a pre-amp and a AUX input on it for the time being.

Phono pre-amps aren't that expensive on the low end and this example also includes a low pass (subsonic) filter to help protect your speakers: http://www.amazon.com/ART-II-Preamplifier-Output-Switchable/dp/B000AJR482/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1450557220&sr=8-4&keywords=phono+preamp

EDIT: changed Amazon Smile link to standard Amazon.

u/ImaginaryCheetah · 1 pointr/BudgetAudiophile

ELI5??

if your record player is vintage, it won't include a pre-amp.

so whatever solution you go with, will need to include a phono amp.

that being said, with space at a premium (you in new york?) i would definitely lean towards powered speakers.

-

https://www.presonus.com/products/Eris-E45

https://www.amazon.com/PreSonus-Eris-E4-5-Powered-Monitors/dp/B00GP56OYA/

i have the Eris 3.5's and they sound fantastic. have for 5+ years now.

the 4.5's will have an even fuller range without being pissing off the neighbors.

-

another good option would be Fluance AI40's

https://www.fluance.com/powered-2-0-bluetooth-active-5-inch-bookshelf-speakers-bamboo

https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Bookshelf-Amplifier-Turntable-Bluetooth/dp/B07CLDGXX1/

the ai40's have built in bluetooth.

i have fluance floor speakers, and they sound great.

so i would expect solid performance from their powered bookshelf.

-

phono preamps aren't too spendy

https://www.amazon.com/GOgroove-Turntable-Preamp-Preamplifier-Adapter/dp/B00WNLIHJA/

https://www.amazon.com/GOgroove-Preamplifier-Connection-Equalization-Adapter/dp/B07JHBFGYS/

would be nice if there was one that was phono and other inputs too, can't seem to find one.

-

these seem fancy. if you've got $100 more in your budget.

https://www.peachtreeaudio.com/m24-powered-speakers.html

https://www.amazon.com/Peachtree-Audio-Powered-Speakers-Bamboo/dp/B077VBZXDD/

might be worth it... for the extra money you don't need the separate phono preamp, and you get a DAC with optical or USB inputs. so you can drive them from your computer too. plus bluetooth and a remote.

don't have any experience with this company.

u/JimboLodisC · 3 pointsr/vinyl

Out of the ones I've seen recommended in this sub:

> "I just need something."

  • ART DJPREII - $49

    > "I want something decent."

  • Pro-Ject Phono Box MM - $79
  • U-Turn Pluto - $99

    > "I want something really good."

  • Pro-Ject Phono Box - $129
  • Schiit Mani - $129
  • Emotiva Audio XPS-1 - $179

    ***

    I've personally had my eye on a Schiit Mani but might save up for a Tube Box S. I play guitar so anything tube kinda draws me in. I still need to mod the preamp out of my LP120 so I don't fully know how well my Klipsch's preamp is performing. If it's good enough then I can save up for the Tube Box S.
u/VSENSES · 1 pointr/headphones

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u/TophatMcMonocle · 4 pointsr/vintageaudio

I'm glad to assist as I'm a fanboy of this type of Technics turntable. I have an old hobby of restoring and collecting Japanese TTs and there's an SL-10 in my collection. I'd love to have an SL-7 too, however I'm falling behind in the "restore" area the last few years.

You will need a phono preamp since the SL-7 does not have one built in, and neither do your Miccas. The sky's the limit on phono preamp prices, however they're a rather simple beast so even the cheapest ones work pretty damned well. To keep things simple for now I'd recommend this one for sixteen bucks.

https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PP999-Phono-Turntable-Pre-Amp/dp/B00025742A

Assuming the SL-7 is good to go and has a cartridge/stylus with some life left in it, that'll be all you need to make music. Your Miccas have amplification built in, so that's it.

If you do need a new P-mount cartridge, this one is very good for the $27 it costs. It's what I have on my SL-10 because I can't afford high-end carts on everything. Be aware there's a small screw that holds it in place on that little tonearm and it must be completely removed first. It's hard to see, so people have ripped off the entire arm trying to pull the cartridge free.

https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT92ECD-Universal-Replacement-Cartridge/dp/B00006HO3L

Last thing I should mention, there are two plastic ears on the SL-7 that are a failure point, since all examples of this turntable are very old now. They latch the lid to the lower portion, or plinth. Treat them very gently as there are no replacements for them.

u/wake_the_dead · 0 pointsr/vinyl

This turntable is probably the cheapest thing you can get NEW that has all of the bells and whistles that most serious vinyl listeners would recommend. Anti skate, adjustable counterweight, pitch slider.

Pyle as a company is not known for making the best products, however it has a 1 year warranty which is more than enough time to: a) figure out if you even enjoy vinyl, and b) save up for a turntable upgrade.

With this amplifier and this phono preamp you still have 50 bucks or so for some speakers.

As I mentioned, Pyle is not known to be the best company and you will undoubtedly get more bang for your buck buying used gear. But if you're broke and just wanna listen to your records with a bare minimum "listen to your records half decent without damaging them" system shipped straight to your door, the Pyle stuff is your best bet.

u/AMountainDewd · 1 pointr/Twitch

If you have a USB 2.0 capture card, any audio to desktop through HDMI will have a slight delay.. so that's probably not an option.

I literally had this exact same problem OP, and I am pleased to say that I've fixed it (albeit needing more equipment than I thought I would need).

You could run a 3.5mm audio cable from the Wii U headphone jack into your mixer, but that only works for the Wii U. If you ever wanted to stream another console, you might not be able to use the same method. That's why I use an HDMI audio extractor.

I have a Xenyx 802, and here's my setup:

HDMI Audio Extractor: Amazon

Cables going from HDMI audio extractor to mixer: Amazon

Adapters for RCA to 1/4": Amazon

From PC headphone jack to mixer: Amazon

Then I just use a 1/4" to 3.5mm adapter in the headphone port of the mixer and boom -- all the audio from both desktop AND console to one headset.

Disclaimer: There may very well be a better / more efficient way to do this.. I admit that I'm still a pretty big noob when it comes to audio equipment, but this was my holy grail for the longest time, and I finally found a way to do it :).

u/ChanceMan · 1 pointr/vinyl

Absolutely! This is my first table as well and I love it. /u/adayinalife has the right idea, you'll benefit from some extras. For sure get a pre amp to actually hear anything unless you have an amp with a phono input already.. Totally spaced that when I got the Carbon and everything was reeeeaaaaalll quiet when I played anything... Pro-Ject makes this bad boy and I'm happy with it. It's another giant plug to deal with just fyi, not a bad trade though: http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Audio-Phono-Pre-amplifier-Black/dp/B000YEK1AQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462769766&sr=8-1&keywords=project+phono+amp

u/Olgaar · 1 pointr/hometheater

Just a couple things to keep in mind... The new receiver will likely include a tuner (-1 analog input), nobody in their right mind listens to cassettes (-1 more analog input)--seriously have him show you what cassettes he listens to and then just find them on vinyl or CD. Add in a in-line phono pre-amp here for $50 or here for even less, and your real requirement becomes 2 normal analog inputs. Also, keep in mind your BluRay player can probably play CDs. Really the only thing you'll probably keep from the old stack is the turntable... and if it was a mid-80s Kenwood system, then you could show him how much you love him by buying him something like an Orbit from U-Turn.

Lastly, about the subwoofer, yes you can easily send all the low frequency content to your front speakers and that's a great way to save some money to get things rolling. Just don't pretend that's the same as having a modern subwoofer. 10" vintage woofers do not produce the same quantity or quality of bass as a subwoofer designed in the past 10 years.

u/TropicalPepe · 0 pointsr/audiophile

Regarding Turntable through Airplay (Homepod)

So I recently have moved to a smaller space and the huge speakers that I had (80s Yamaha handmedown from my audiophile father) didn't fit anymore.

I got the Homepod because I really liked the sound of it, and for playing my Apple Music stuff it's great but that means that my vinyl collection just sits and collects dust now.

I have a turntable and I've been looking on the internet for possible solutions that DON'T involve a computer because I just don't have one in the living room and my laptop is the Macbook with only one USB C port so it'd be quite the hassle anyways since my dongle is basically stationary on my work desk plus its just an ugly set up.

I found this post :

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/homepod-and-turntable-setup.2103403/

"The Homepod can receive from any Airplay-compatible sending device, right? So the only thing you'd need is a way to make a turntable Airplay-compatible. Which is, of course, quite a thing to ask. I have been looking for a way to do it actually for a long time. Apart from some disappointing vaporware Airplay-turntable that never made it to market, there seems to be no way to do this.. Or is there? I am currently considering this: attach a record player with built in amplifier (just to prevent the need for a separate pre-amplifier, although you could also use this of course) and connect it to this device: Yamaha WXC 50. As I understand it, it should be possible to turn the sound from a turntable into an Airplay-compatible signal with this device - which should play fine through the Homepod (I think). I would love to hear if someone thinks it won't!"

Here is the preamp that the poster is talking about.

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Component-Preamplifier-Silver-WXC-50/dp/B01EI6DQS4

However I couldn't find any confirmation that this would work. $350 to drop on a maybe is very steep and was wondering if anyone else knew anything about this kind of setup? My concern is that the intention of this thing is merely to receive Airplay signals rather than be able to transmit them.

I do have other speakers but they are my studio monitors which I use for making music in a different room. Yes for $350 I could get other speakers but the space would still be an issue for me in my current living situation and I quite like the sound of the Homepod (unsure if thats blasphemy here!).

Absolutely any help or input would be appreciated. I'm gonna start saving up for this thing and in a few months I'll pull the trigger if no one else has any experience with this sort of set up.

u/rtkierke · 1 pointr/HeadphoneAdvice

So let’s clarify some stuff. If your solid-state source is getting your audio loud enough without causing objective issues, such as hissing, distortion, or a noticeable noise floor, there is generally no need for an upgrade. If, however, these do occur, then you can benefit. The difference between an snr of 120 and 140 is objectively unnoticeable given certain listening volumes. You only need to upgrade if you need to upgrade. Now, we can definitely make sure you get a fantastic DAC/amp with no issues and great measurements, but the first thing you’re going to need to do is drop the idea of an internal sound card. It is best to have digital audio turned all the way up and control volume externally (because of a whole lot of bit depth mumbo jumbo).

If you want a great all-in-one, stretch your budget a tad and get the The Element.
If you want a cheaper stack, get an Atom
and either a Khadas Tone Board with a case or an
OL DAC or a
Topping D30. All measure objectively without audible flaw. That evga card is a gamer targeted overpriced gimmick.

u/ibluestone3 · 2 pointsr/audiophile

Hi Reddit,

I am not yet an audiophile, but have been doing some research as I'm inheriting a hi-fi system comprised of the following:

-Luxman M-113 stereo amplifier

-Luxman M-120A stereo amplifier

-Counterpoint SA-5000 Preamplifier with power supply

-2 VPMS RM1 speakers (8 Ohms)

-Pro-Ject Audio Debut Carbon turntable

I live in an apartment, so it is completely unrealistic to keep all this gear. I have the option to keep/buy more/sell existing hardware however I see fit in order to achieve the following two goals:

  1. Ability to stream via Bluetooth audio from a record on the turntable to the VPMS RM1 speakers on the other side of the living room. I don't mind minor quality degradation due to bluetooth, but absolutely cannot run wire and the turntable will not be placed near receiver.

  2. As small of a hardware footprint as possible. System does not need to be loud.

    After some research I have found these three products - will they, in combination, allow me to achieve my goals? Maybe I'm on the right track but chose terrible hardware?

  3. A turntable preamp which the Debut Carbon will go directly into - something like https://www.amazon.ca/Pyle-Pro-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_2

  4. Bluetooth audio transmitter which the preamp will out to - something like https://www.amazon.ca/Bluetooth-Streaming-Esinkin-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B016NUTG5K/ref=pd_ybh_a_4

  5. Bluetooth compatible audio receiver - something like https://www.amazon.ca/Pyle-Pro-PDA5BU-Bluetooth-Amplifier-Readers/dp/B00LI4L1LO/ref=sr_1_4

    Also if anyone has any idea how much those amps & preamps might be worth used please let me know. I would probably lean towards keeping them in storage though, so I can appreciate them when I have room to actually have them out. The turntable and speakers I can keep as is I probably?
u/DarthGaff · 1 pointr/gaming

You need something that can extract audio from the HDMI cable. I recently bought a ViewHD HDMI Audio Extractor from Amazon but I have not had a chance to play with it yet. This outputs to RCA you could convert that to that ever you need.

Update: This thing works like a dream, I would recommend it.
Hope that helps.

u/demet123 · 1 pointr/BudgetAudiophile

Ok great, I think I will hold off on the DAC until and if I might feel I need it. I found this that seems like it would do what I want:

Nobsound Mini Fully-Balanced/Single-Ended Passive Preamp; Hi-Fi Pre-Amplifier; XLR/RCA Volume Controller for Active Monitor Speakers

https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-Fully-Balanced-Single-Ended-Pre-Amplifier-Controller/dp/B01MXC9HHW/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1541612767&sr=1-4&keywords=tube+passive+preamp

and connect from there to speakers with (two?) XLR cables:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XK9L1WY/?coliid=I1WI5F3XZHQJJN&colid=2S3E3S2YGUWG1&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

seem ok? thanks!

u/explosivo563 · 1 pointr/VinylDeals

There ya go. Those can be super cheap as well but I upgraded to the art dj pre ii and haven't looked back. Clipping warning is great and the gain knob is awesome. https://www.amazon.com/ART-Audio-DJPRE-Turntable-Preamplifier/dp/B000AJR482

u/comrade_eddy · 1 pointr/vinyl

The typical turntable setup requires a turntable with a pre-amp (built in or external), two speakers, and an amp. If your speakers are powered you don’t need an amp.

At your price point you’ll get the best bang for your buck if you get lucky and find it used at thrift stores. I live in a big city and that shit goes lightening fast. I looked for months and could never find anything so I bought new.

The cheapest new turntable that isn’t a PoS is the u-turn orbit. A cheap external pre-amp that will do the job will run you [$49](ART ART DJPREII Pro Audio DJPRE II Phono Turntable Preamplifier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AJR482/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_kK0SAb2F9RQDB). Some budget starter speakers $79 and a little cheap amp $29.

Now this goes over your budget so if you have to buy the turntable new you can reduce cost by looking for speakers and a stereo receiver (rather than an amp) at thrift stores. This stuff is usually easier to find than the turntable. Good luck!

Edit: whatever you do, don’t buy the audio technica lp60. It’s a PoS and you will want to replace it. Better to be patient and save.

u/sychan168 · 1 pointr/BudgetAudiophile

The cheapest way to test out a time preamp is to pickup the FX Audio Tube-01 with the recommended upgrade tubes:

https://www.amazon.com/FX-Audio-TUBE-01-Preamplifier-TUBE-01S-SL/dp/B07DVXVZ51/ref=mp_s_a_1_5

That may provide enough gain for your phono. If you want to get a dedicated tube phono preamp, the little bear t10 and t11 have a lot of fans:
https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-Little-Turntable-Preamplifier-Pre-Amplifier/dp/B06XCM9NKV/ref=mp_s_a_1_2

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/l7qKiFlA

I picked up a a tube preamp out of curiosity, and it definitely adds a "flavor" to the sound by particular forms of distortion from the specific tube you have plugged in. If you like the flavor then it's good, but if you aren't a fan then it's just some funny distortion. A tube that adds very little distortion sounds like a good solid state preamp ( that costs a lot less!)

I wouldn't spend a lot of money on the tube preamp itself - a lot of the sound flavoring comes from the tubes you plug in. So a big part of having a tube amp is finding the tubes you like. Sometimes the amp itself is kind of crappy and adds noise ( despite the price). The tube-01 with a better power brick is supposedly equal to a lot of more expansive units.

u/Freezerburn · 2 pointsr/audio

Hmm so RCA phono in and 3.5mm jack out.. The speakers are amped and have a volume control. So you need a phono stage cause all turntables need them to get your analog audio to line level. I assume you're trying to save money so we won't get serious. This Pyle should do the job

https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Phono-Turntable-Preamp-Preamplifier/dp/B004HJ1TTQ

From the pyle you'll want an RCA Male to 3.5mm Female cable. This should do it.

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Premium-Stereo-Female-Plated/dp/B003L14XTO

EDIT: OH looks like the Logitech speakers have an RCA input! So you don't need a converter. So this monoprice rca between the phono pre and the Logitech should work. Let me know if I'm wrong, cause if it doesn't have RCA input then you'll be going back to RCA to 3.5mm converter.

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-1-5ft-Premium-22AWG-Cable/dp/B003L1717K

If you need the RCA interconnect between the turntable and preamp.

https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CRA-202DJ-Ground-Stereo-Interconnect/dp/B000PO1H80

Personally I'd get a good integrated like a yamaha, that's more in the direction of best way and hook it up to some nice floorstander towers or bookshelf speakers like Klipsch, Elac, and so on.

u/immanence · 1 pointr/diyaudio

Great, thanks! Thanks for the heads up on that book, that sounds great.

In the meantime, do you think something like this will keep me going for a while?

http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Audio-Phono-preamp-output/dp/B007DB5I60/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1413500822&sr=8-5&keywords=project+phono+preamp

u/cccastaneda007 · 2 pointsr/vinyl

Depending on it's condition, you could probably sell the electrohome for $60-$100.

You can get a good used turntable for $20 or less. Just check out craigslist, thrift stores, yard sales etc. It's fun and it's cheap. I recently purchased a Realistic Lab 290 TT for $20. Phono Pre-amps are also fairly cheap. I got mine for $50 but there are cheaper one's out there.

It doesn't take very much time or money, you get a better listening experience, and you protect your records. Trust me it's worth it.

u/Yushatak · 2 pointsr/turntables

Ironically that's what I ordered shortly after posting, but I was still hoping someone would know of one with a signal sensing feature. For the money it seems like the best one around at like $33 for their basic model (https://www.amazon.com/ART-Audio-DJPRE-Turntable-Preamplifier/dp/B000AJR482/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493409453&sr=8-1&keywords=art+phono+preamp)

u/Mr_Soju · 1 pointr/vinyl

Hey, good link. That Yahama looks legit and 100 watts is good but...

The link you provided says:

u/yo0123yo · 1 pointr/vinyl

Hello, new guy from Chicago, IL

I was looking for some advice with my first entry-level setup, prefer to buy online only.

Looking to keep the overall price under $150.
I am looking for something that can play vinyls with a good sound and quality turntable that wont die out on me within a year.

I want something that doesn't require a receiver just to help keep the price down.

Below is the setup that I am debating buying, please let me know if its good enough or if theres any other equipment that you all suggest.

Audio Technica AT-LP60-
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002GYTPAE/

Logitech Speakers -
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EZ9XKCM/

Phono PreAmp -
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WNLIHJA/

Thanks in advance