Reddit mentions: The best bathtub & shower systems

> getting her feeling 'intimate and relaxed' with a massage first? Loosen up the muscles, help her forget about work/life before you start the foreplay?

Yes, exactly!

Massage can be the gateway for many women who are slow to warm up. "Foreplay" doesn't really work for a lot of us because our clits aren't responsive until we're already warmed up.

Some other things that can help: a long, hot bath or shower; meditation; a glass of wine or a few tokes of good weed; having a big block of time with no responsibilities and no interruptions; feeling especially loved and cherished. (Massage helps with that last one too.)

It's a pity she didn't try the vibes. I need a lot of help to get to my first orgasm, and introducing vibrators into both foreplay and sex has made a huge difference.

Some women who won't use vibrators find that water is a great masturbation aid. Maybe get her a pulsating handheld showerhead extension? Like this, for example. They're also great for bathing pets and little kids.

If she doesn't like the showerhead idea, she can lie back in the tub, stick her legs straight up, and slide her pussy under the faucet, or she can use a waterproof vibrator in the tub or shower.

But start with a2freema's idea. There are very few wives and moms who don't love getting a good massage!

The Sweet Home has a great comparison article on shower heads. I don't know if they really qualify as BIFL, but I bought the $23 Delta 75152 faucet based on their secondary recommendation and love it. I figured I'd use the high flow 2.5 L/min mode all the time, but honestly the 1.8 L/min mode is perfect. The 2.5 L/min actually feels like an absurd amount of water.

You should get one, they are awesome. I replaced my old shower head with a removable handheld one when I had surgery on my pelvic bone and needed to use a shower chair since my doctor told me I wasn't allowed to stand in the bathtub for about two months (if I fell in the bathtub during that time I'd have literally broken my butt). The initial plan was to put it back after, but I discovered that handheld showers are amazing.

Take the handheld shower down to clean the walls in the shower (rinsing your grout cleaner or whatever off the tiled walls). Hold the handheld shower so the cold water doesn't hit you when you first turn on the shower head instead of having to get in to the shower once it's already on. Use the handheld shower to better direct water flow to thoroughly rinse your groin area.

They're $20-$40 and totally a game changer and you don't realize how much better things could be until you have one. (Edit: I have this one by Delta for $25)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BZ99TF3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I know you said you dont want rain shower head but i just installed this unit last weekend. Took my first shower with it this morning and I love it. The manufacturer has heads that are not rain heads either. Good luck! I was in your same position... I spent days trying to find a shower system i liked that had rain shower and a wand and was matte black. Finally decided to just go with one that had decent reviews.

It's a small thing but it made me happy.

I replaced all the doorknobs in the house with matching Kwikset Antique brass finished knobs.

When I moved in the house had all different knobs and most of them have paint on them and it just bothered me. Especially when I could see more than one style/color of knob in the same room.

I also upgraded my shower head with one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LV7W4K/ref=pe_1098610_137716200_cm_rv_eml_rv0_dp which feels super good.

I want to replace my ceiling fans next and fix up my cabinets.

I recommend a shower head like this, and/or an extension like this. I have a similar setup, and it's pretty awesome. Obviously not helpful for the road, but for 95% of the rest of life it's great.

So long as that's a standard faucet size (and I can't imagine why it wouldn't be, even though it all looks a bit odd because it's unfinished), swapping a showerhead is about the simplest diy in the world.

This showerhead is dirt cheap and gets great reviews: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LV7W4K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Hoe8ybFX6DG57

We have one and it's great for the price.

You'll need a pair of pliers and some thread sealing (plumber's) tape. But pretty sure the Delta comes with some.

Easy peazy.

I love this one. Just like the reviews say, it feels like big fat raindrops. Its the only shower I've had where I don't simultaneously feel cold. It installs really easily as well, you just screw it on.

This is the updated version, and I don't recommend it.

If someone needs extra motivation to take a shower regularly, I can recommend a shower head that really improved my experience of showering. It's meant for showers with low water pressure, and it makes some very powerful jets that shoot the water out at a pretty high speed, but in a fairly broad spread, in small drops instead of in streams. It feels great. Just let the water get warm before you get in- the spread-out jets bring a lot of air with them, and if the water's not fully warm yet, it'll be extra cold, as it brings its own breeze.


https://www.amazon.com/Faucet-2-Spray-Shower-Chrome-75152/dp/B000LV7W4K

Get one of these! Highly recommend. Water pressure isn't stella when someone else is using the other one, but it works and it's an effective way of sharing the shower ;)

A better idea would be to purchase a better showerhead. The brand can make an incredible difference in perceived pressure.

I have been a big fan of Speakman and (surprisingly) WaterPik. Here are my two favorites, and they are 45 minute long shower wife approved too.

http://www.amazon.com/Speakman-S-2005-H-Anystream-Showerhead-Polished/dp/B0055JJ5WK/ref=sr_1_12?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1382357494&sr=1-12&keywords=speakman+shower+head

http://www.amazon.com/75700-Universal-Showering-Components-Handshower/dp/B000LV7VXW/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_1

If you don't have to worry about saving water may I recommend this shower head:

http://amzn.com/B006FYABAE

These are new old stock made before the Feds required water saving devices.

They are not pretty, or fancy but I promise you they will give you the best shower you ever had

Delta generally has good stuff.

Whenever I can take a nice shower, not a rushed one because I need to get back to chasing my child around, my bathroom becomes a concert zone. I love music in the shower.

edit woops: Rubber ducky!

> Can we get a tldr for each question and the specs or a couple bullets w/o commentary?

Sure:

1. Is there any reason to pay 70 extra dollars for this:
   https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KL6UN5K
   rather than buying the trim and roughin valve (on the same page) separately?
   
   
2. Is it practical to have 3/4 inch pex lines going to each end of a shower enclosure, and then splitting them into two half inch lines, one for an overhead shower and one for a body jet loop at each end?
   
   And thanks for the advice about the plumber. I intended to talk to him beforehand anyway, but you make an excellent point about making sure he has everything he needs, and is happy with the parts, before he starts.
   
   In fact, forget the plumber, I may not even get this past my builder. That's why I posted here, in case it was too stupid to even ask him about it. But a guy above said he had built systems similar to this, so I'm encouraged.
   

I keep a space heater in my bathroom specifically for the getting out part. I turn it on right before getting in the shower. I installed a faucet that let's you set the temp knob separately from the on/off knob so once I find my ideal temp I can simply turn the knob on/off without having to adjust the temp every time. This faucet combined with the space heater makes for a pleasant showertime. When I get out, I towel off with a very soft bamboo fiber towel in front of the space heater as if it were a hand dryer, in this case a body dryer. The heater only runs for about 10-15mins per shower so it doesn't cost much to use it this way.

For the showerhead: get something like [this] (http://www.amazon.com/Centers-Chrome-Plated-Diverter-Clawfoot/dp/B002ZV62DQ). Take it to your local hardware/plumbing place and get a long straight piece that will screw into the top bit, bonus points if they can bend it for you, or buy a curved bit. While there pick out a nice showerhead.

Screw the things together and use something to hold the tall bit next to the showerhead to the curtain holder you just built.

I'm fairly certain it is a Barclay Products Model 4604. I don't think its a Barclay problem though. There appears to be 2 separate diverters on this setup, one being the shower/bath lever, the other being the Delta Style Push/Pull on the handheld connection. Can't really tell without a picture a little higher up, but I assume it also has a riser to a regular shower head which is also leaking.

Someone else please chime in if I'm wrong, but I think if you replace the Push/Pull Delta 50650, you should be good.

Hope that helps.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LV7W4K/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_ZTtVDb9X9ASV1

I can't recommend this one enough. It's the best shower head I have used, and it's only like$20. If you have something better, I do want to see it though, I spend like an hour in the shower.

This head is nice for what you are looking for, and also for a nice full pressured shower! I bought this a few months ago and it works great!

For less than $20, you can hugely improve your life: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LV7W4K. It's pretty astonishing what a good shower head can do.

https://www.amazon.com/SR-SUN-RISE-SRSH-F5043-Bathroom/dp/B014SWZG5O/ This is a $200 version.

So... they're no longer allowed to sell you shower heads that put out more than 2.5 GPM at 80psi. Combination shower heads now must limit how many nozzles are working at once to avoid exceeding this limit.

But you're free to buy... two shower heads. Or four. Or eleventy-one. You just need to set up the plumbing for them. You're also free to, per Internet commentary, 'drill out the nozzle apertures'. Beyond that, it's just a matter of plumbing it together and having the ability to supply that much hot water. That means large-diameter pipes & valves, and as far as supply, you could either rig up a very large insulated storage tank, or use something like a sizable condensing-boiler furnace with a heat exchanger to function as an on-demand water heater. 2.5GPM eats up about 22KW or 75,000BTU/H. If you're using 25 showerheads, you're going to need something like this - https://www.acwholesalers.com/Weil-McLain-383600017/p49931.html , and I don't even know what you'd use for a purely electric on-demand system. A commercial three-phase 480V electric service, to start with.

Agree with this. Delta in particular makes good products at better prices than moen. Similar to what the OP wants Delta Faucet T14259-BL Trinsic Monitor 14 Series Shower Trim, Matte Black, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XHHR98K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_x0hwDb2YT9A05

I have similar shower handles and these worked for me. This kit is very nice as it comes with the "socket" tool to remove the old stem. I also went ahead and replaced all three as they were old.
Gerber Faucets

You'll also need a Seat Wrench if you want to replace the seats. Be careful as its VERY easy to strip the seat.

In case you need cheaper or prime options.


This one has the faucet so you would get spare parts. Shower Faucet Sets 8 Inch Rain Shower Head 2 Cross Knobs Mixer Shower System with Handheld Shower Spray Brushed Nickel Finish Silver https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SXGHJBK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_uSPVDb9VSFE6X

This adapts the top shower head feed. Also called a retrofit. PULSE ShowerSpas 1019-CH Aqua Rain Shower System with 8" Rain Showerhead, 5-Function Hand Shower, Adjustable Slide Bar and Soap Dish, Polished Chrome Finish https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IUCHHHE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_wTPVDbXSC12JV

This directly comes from the wall more towards the center. Shower System with 8" Rain Showerhead, Homelody 5-Function Hand Shower 59" Stainless Steel hose, Adjustable Slide Bar and Soap Dish, Chrome https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VB7DZ77/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_3YPVDbZFWZPYS and another different retrofit KES Retrofit Rain Shower System BRASS Diverter with 5 Function Handheld Shower and Adjustable Slide Bar Stainless Steel Soap Dish Wall Mount Brushed Nickel X6400A-BN https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H4RJZ2A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_j-PVDb5F2G918

Edit another connect to faucet. Brushed Nickel Bathtub Shower Faucet System 8-inch Rainfall Showerhead with Handheld Spray Dual Cross Knobs Handles Wall Mounted Triple Function Shower Unit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T1525JV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_TdQVDbCMKS4A2

I own a "water amplifying" showerhead that does this. Delta 75152. Makes the water jets feel more intense by rapidly jittering them around. It's pretty effective!

Just did a little digging through my amazon purchases.... here's the one I got:
https://www.amazon.com/Faucet-2-Spray-Shower-Chrome-75152/dp/B000LV7W4K/ref=sr_1_76?keywords=shower%2Bhead&qid=1572732840&sr=8-76&th=1&psc=1

I ended up installing the same one in my moms house as well, love it

rubber ducky

shower

My ritual is I play some bball in the afternoon then play and sing a little queen in the shower. I know it's exciting.

I have that same extender, but I have 2 of them hooked together and it works great. I reccomend pairing with showerhead: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LV7W4K/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The only real way to do that is to get a certain water heater that holds less hot water and time it out to see how much smaller you want it to be. But simple math should suffice; if you want the hot water to diminish twice as fast, get a water heater half the size of your current one.

A cheaper easier way is to do what I did and just buy a shower head that displays the temperature. (It is water pressure powered; requires no batteries or anything.) Thereby, you'll know exactly what the best starting temperature will be for you.

The shower head is this guy.

In addition to the clip, it's got a magnet that keeps the wand in place - pretty nice actually!

http://amzn.com/B000LV7W4K

Is what I have, pretty good jet that comes out.

I have a lot of pain issues and the doctors won't give me enough pain meds to last me. Hot showers help. I sit on a icechest/cooler in the shower stall (no tub) and let the hot water hit me. I do this several times a day to ease the pain. I am disabled so I can't afford to buy one of those showerheads right now. I have been really wanting a nice hand held showerhead like this one and one of these.

So, then I could attach that thing to the stall lower down and put the hand held showerhead in it right above my back and just sit there and let it soothe the pain for awhile.

It's a very nice thing you are doing regardless of who you pick. Peace.

I can probably fit a hose to that, but I don't know about the other end. would this hose fit to this faucet? if not, how do I adapt it?

Ok thanks, I'll have a search :) I found this which is perfect but it's in the UK https://www.amazon.co.uk/Croydex-Push-Fit-Bath-Shower-White/dp/B000TAN37S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463956262&sr=8-1&keywords=shower+converter

The 396 gph version isn't much more expensive. To keep from using too much ice, you could start by letting the pot rest on its own for a few minutes (try a hop stand!), then switch to cold tap water through the pump, then switch that out for ice water. The key is just maintaining a high differential between the wort and whatever you're cooling with.

Another option -- and this is a little off the wall -- is to use your shower. You could switch to a handheld shower, get a diverter, or get a showerhead with a splitter that would let you easily swap in your wort chiller. Handheld showers use a pretty standard 1/2" thread.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006FYABAE/ref=mp_s_a_1_18?qid=1425940115&sr=8-18&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=high+pressure+shower+head&dpPl=1&dpID=510RdlEXAxL&ref=plSrch

I bought this one in November and it's the absolute best I've ever used. Our water pressure is mediocre at best and this thing blasts! Also, it's quite miserly on water consumption. I don't ever see wanting another kind.

Something like this looks relatively easy and inexpensive.

This is the greatest head of all time for making a strong, high pressure experience when you have mediocre water pressure. I have replaced all of my heads with this head and the difference is night and day. Delta Faucet 2-Spray Shower Head, Chrome 75152 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LV7W4K/

I have this one ($27, prime) and love it.

I like showerheads that basically take your skin off on their strongest setting. While this isn't quite that (only because I'm spoiled with one we got from Target that basically abuses you with water pressure), even with the low water pressure we have it works really well for a "not expensive" shower head.

Non-Complaint: I bought a new showerhead a while ago and the thing is freaking awesome.

Complaint: It's so powerful that every time I take a shower, there is water on the floor. Somehow, it's getting around the shower curtain.

Complaint: Not only that, but I stepped in a puddle in the kitchen below... somehow the water is dripping through the bathroom floor onto the kitchen ceiling and out through a light fixture.

Non-Complaint: I'm pretty sure I can fix it if I caulk the gap between the tub and the subfloor. Keeping my fingers crossed it doesn't become a massive issue.

Confession: I really need to get my bathroom remodeled badly (it's so gross), but I don't even know where to start.

Non-Complaint: Found a new podcast to listen to ( Dr Death ) and it's made running so much better lately.

One of these means a few screw holes in the wall to attach a supporting bracket but no cutting into the wall to change the plumbing. Only works if you can remove the current tub spout to replace it with the diverter.

I used one, plus a shower curtain ring like this one to add a shower to a tub without having to do any real plumbing work. The shower ring protects the walls (which are wood paneling) from the shower spray. All would be fairly simple to remove if it ever had to go.

I always thought these colored shower heads were cool. Here is a nice hand-held one

I don't really have a shower ritual, I do shower at night instead of in the morning. I like to sleep in as much as possible plus I don't sweat that much at night so there is no real issue with no showering in the morning.

rubber ducky

I own this Delta showerhead and love it to death. It saves on my water bill while simultaneously giving me a more powerful rinse than I had before AND delivering hot water sooner and more consistently than the others I've tried.

Edit: No seriously, there's some actual science in this $25 showerhead. Check it out.

Perhaps something like [this] (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Croydex-Push-Fit-Bath-Shower-White/dp/B000TAN37S/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1418226311&sr=8-3-fkmr2&keywords=attachable+shower+to+tap)?

1. This is the one I ordered! I like it a lot! I wanted a metal hose so it wouldn't "blow out" like the plastic ones, and it has a wide array of settings.
   
   
2. I don't really have time for any rituals, as all my showers are usually less than five minutes, or mostly less than two. OH, I suppose I have a ritual, or rather, my cat does! She hops in the tub and patiently waits until I turn on the faucet, dump handfuls of water on her, then 'scrub' and 'squeegee' her with my hands. Then she promptly hops out and set to bathing herself. xD And no, her name is Pest, not rubber ducky! =P

Yes.
https://www.amazon.com/75700-Universal-Showering-Components-Handshower/dp/B000LV7VXW

hundreds of options availble, ask at your local Home depot/lowes.

If it's energy and saving water you're worried about then those fancy $50/$60 massaging shower heads are not what you want. You want a shower head that can be manually switched on and off so you can take navy showers, Like this Delta Single Stream Shower Head.

For everyone looking to buy this it is on amazon and here's the link! https://www.amazon.com/6-Spray-Digital-Temperature-Display-75668/dp/B00KL6XA5A/ref=sr_1_13?crid=3QP0BU59CIV59&keywords=shower+head+temperature+display&qid=1564758442&s=gateway&sprefix=shower+head+temp%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-13

So what do you recommend? A simple alternative like this? Someone said they would do it for $275 for labor but I would need to buy the parts. I'm not sure what parts I would need to buy.

so who is going to provide an amazon link for this thing?

Me I guess

Hand held version

Replaced stock apartment showerhead with this https://smile.amazon.com/75700-Universal-Showering-Components-Handshower/dp/B000LV7VXW/ . Its cheap and plastic, but its been going strong for four years and adds about 8 inches to the height of the shower. Took about ten seconds to install. Plus how the hell did we effectively rinse our taints before removable showerheads?

Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/6-Spray-Digital-Temperature-Display-75668/dp/B00KL6XA5A

have you checked Amazon? i know this is not exact (not sure how close you want it) but it has the same plumbing type. http://www.amazon.com/Centers-Chrome-Plated-Diverter-Clawfoot/dp/B002ZV62DQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=kitchen-bath&ie=UTF8&qid=1422456237&sr=1-2&keywords=tub+faucet

It's one of [these] (https://www.amazon.com/Danco-39617-Gerber-Triple-Handle-Faucets/dp/B000DZG0EC) types of sets.

Non-mobile: http://www.amazon.com/db/B006FYABAE/ref=mp_s_a_1_18?qid=1425940115&sr=8-18&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=high+pressure+shower+head&dpPl=1&dpID=510RdlEXAxL&ref=plSrch

^That's ^why ^I'm ^here, ^I ^don't ^judge ^you. ^PM ^/u/xl0 ^if ^I'm ^causing ^any ^trouble. ^WUT?

https://www.amazon.com/75152-Single-Function-Shower-H2Okinetic-Technology/dp/B000LV7W4K/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1469985419&sr=1-3&keywords=air+shower+head

http://www.amazon.com/Faucet-75584-Five-Spray-Massage-In2ition/dp/B003XPHA0W

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B000LV7W4K?redirect=true&ref_=s9_simh_gw_p60_d0_i3

http://www.amazon.com/Faucet-75668-Temp2O-Shower-Chrome/dp/B00KL6XA5A/ref=pd_sim_sbs_60_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=51YMG-kap%2BL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=016FVBBVHTV6X93ZVKT9

Only $27.40 vs $85.00. Just have to know where to look.

I bought this and I love it. Almost 2 years and I haven't had an issue.


https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000LV7W4K/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1483839051&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=low+pressure+shower+head&dpPl=1&dpID=41lRn8RhdaL&ref=plSrch

just buy a new faucet

Amazon link

same thing, apparently the incredible head was discontinued.

On the contrary there's all kind of stuff out there to be ordered:

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Plumbing-Plumbing-Parts-Repair/Triple-Handle/N-5yc1vZbqkpZ1z11e3d

https://smile.amazon.com/Cross-Arm-Handles-3-Handle-Porcelain-39696/dp/B000JFNNT6?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_3
https://smile.amazon.com/39617-Bathtub-Shower-3-Handle-Remodeling/dp/B000DZG0EC?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_9

Delta 75152 3-7/8" Single-Function Shower Head with H2Okinetic Technology, Chrome https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LV7W4K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nZuMzbVFNJVS2

Here's the one I have owned and used forever: Navy Showerhead. I got mine at the Base Exchange for $4 back in the '90s, but i think you can pick one up at Wal Mart for $5.

Edit: Use caution, as this restrictive showerhead really increases the intensity of the spray. If you have pretty high water pressure, it can be uncomfortably intense on your gentleman's sausage (but will blast the shampoo right outta your hair).

Not sure about the water pressure being due to aleak or not. If those shower heads ddon't work out for you (though you said you've used them before and were happy), you could try the one I linked just below. I used it in an apartment I couldn't make any changes to that had lower pressure, and it worked great without being overly harsh (then girlfriend, now wife didn't like the kind you linked when I tried it first):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000LV7W4K/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1367858129&sr=8-1&pi=SL75

Or, if the budget allows, this. Don't balk. It's amazing.

No. Get one of these and reach every inch of your body.

> fancy shit like detachable showerheads

Here's one for $25 as a retrofit.

Get this bad boy, seriously this thing is no joke. It amplifies the water pressure by a significant amount. It sprays a large wall of water out at a much higher pressure but doesn't actually use more water. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000LV7W4K/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1426726361&sr=8-1&keywords=delta+high+pressure+shower+head&dpPl=1&dpID=41PwFhf4MzL&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

It's probably only a few volts. It's powered by the water itself, no wiring.

Delta Faucet 6-Spray Temp2O Touch-Clean Shower Head with LED Digital Temperature Display, Chrome 75668 https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00KL6XA5A

Had the same problem, bought this shower head and it changed my life.

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LV7W4K/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Do you have one of these?

Have you had any problems with thrush?

I also shave in the shower but I use a shower head for low pressure. It saves on water, thus saving on hot water. I can take 30 minutes showers and never run out! Thought you might want to try it or something similar

Amazon Shower Head