Reddit mentions: The best boots for men

I'm 16, so I may be able to help you a bit with what would look good on you, since I wear this stuff.

• Docker's Alpha Khaki: Grab a few pairs of Dockers alpha khaki's, they have them at Macy's - if you don't have a Macy's near you, you can order online. The grey, navy, and tan are all good colors.
  
  
• GAP's skinny selvedge: We here at MFA love raw jeans, but not every teenager can afford them. Gap has some fairly cheap ($35) 1969 jeans that are fairly nice. Get them in a dark indigo wash. If you don't like the gap jeans just remember get a pair that is slim (but not skin tight) and dark indigo is a great color to get them in.
  
  
• Target's Merona V-neck: Your shirt seems kind of odd in this photo, the V is really deep, and as others have said it's best not to get such a deep V unless you are more on the muscular side. Target's merona brand has a great V-neck shirt that is pretty good on fit and has a lot of colors. Their crew necks are good too, but its just personal preference. I personally like the crew necks more because they fit my body type better.
  
  
• OCBD's (Oxford Cloth Button Down): This is a button up shirt made of oxford cloth (heavier than the average "dress" shirt, lighter than flannel) and has a button down collar. You can get these at a variety of stores but MFA typically recommends Jcrew, get them in slim. If that's too pricey gap makes some fairly ok OCBD's. Its a great shirt for fall/winter with layering and spring by itself (but you can layer if you feel like it, might be too hot) its not much of a summer shirt because it can get hot if you are in 80 degree weather+
  
  
• Shoes: Van's authentic's are good shoes. Off white is a good color. Once it get's to fall/winter you may want a boot. I own a pair of red wings, but obviously everybody can't buy them since they are fairly expensive. The Katahdin's are also good, but again - to a teenager they might be pricey. You could go with Clark's but they aren't great for winter (the crepe sole has a tendency to absorb water, which isn't good if you want dry feet) but they will do OK if you aren't walking around too much in rain/slush. If you want boots you may have to pay a bit more... but it will be worth it since they will last, and they are very stylish. If you get the right pair, you will definitely get some compliments.
  
  
• Sweaters: Cardigan's, Sweater's, they are great. I actually made a post about this today. Jcrew has some great sweaters, a bit more expensive than other brands but I hear they last for a very long time and are high quality. Banana republic also has some great options. Gap makes a great cardigan that I am going to buy tomorrow.
  
  
• Jackets: Get one in black/olive/or brown. The guide over in the sidebar is great for jackets, they are a long subject and it would be hard for me to cover all of them in this comment. EDIT: Also, vests - if you can pull that shit off, wear one, on the right person they look great. Like this
  
  As a few final tips:
  
  

• Make sure your belt matches your shoes in color.
  
  
• Make sure your pants fit you well, you shouldn't be able to fit more than 2 fingers in between your waist and your pants.
  
  
• Shirt and shoes shouldn't match.
  
  
• Button up's shouldn't be too long, if its long it is meant to be tucked in, and it looks odd because me and you usually wouldn't be tucking in our shirts.
  
  
• Fit is very important. Make sure it fits well before you buy it (but not so well that when you wash it, it shrinks up and you can't wear it).
  
  
• As others have said, cut your hair.
  
  
  MFA is a great community, but a few people criticize things pretty harshly, don't feel offended if this happens, its happened to most of us here.

You actually started out exactly where I was a few years ago. I'm still learning, but here are a few things that I've picked up along the way:

• as has been said already, Fit is the most important thing that you can be concerned about. Read the sidebars on fit, try to get a good idea of what a good fit means.
  
  
• go shopping! That is not to say that you have to buy something every time you go shopping, but go and try stuff on. You cannot learn about fit without trying things on, because things fit everyone differently. I would guess that slim-fit button ups would look good on you from the pictures but it's hard to say. Different brands fit differently so have fun going into different stores. For example I have found that a Medium slim-fit from the Gap fits me almost perfectly without any tailoring required.
  
  
• To expand on that last sentence, tailoring is usually required, or will always help. But if you can find something that fits pretty good you might be able to get away with saving the $10-$15. However, an extra $10 for a perfect fitting shirt is always worth considering.
  
  
• Also for shopping don't go with a gf, go with a bro. But make sure it's a friend that you can trust and that has a good fashion sense himself, otherwise it's the blind leading the blind.
  
  
• some stores I'd recommend off the top of my head are Brooks Brothers, J Crew, Club Monaco, Banana Republic, The Gap. I don't know where you live but those first two aren't even available to me. I've often looked at their stuff and it's great. I don't know what your budget is but those are listed roughly by most to least expensive. That being said there is no law against trying stuff on that you don't buy, and maybe there will be a sale on something that you just can't pass up. If you don't buy it, it will be there the next time you go back. And if it's not, well it's just a shirt, no big deal. There will be many more like it. Don't buy it unless you're in love with it.
  
  
• I've recently become fixated on the importance of footware. You don't need to spend a lot on a shoe that looks good, especially if you're going for a more casual look. But I feel it adds a lot to the overall look and in some cases you can build a wardrobe around it. What I mean by that is something like the Wolverine 1000 Mile Boot or the Red Wing Iron Ranger are expensive but versatile. You can wear them with jeans, chinos, dress pants and even a suit, depending on the occasion and the suit. Though I think you'll be ok with a nice looking sneaker for a while while you're developing your wardrobe. But it's something to consider. I used to be so hurting that I had to borrow entire outfits (including shoes) from friends because what I was wearing would get me turned away from the club we were going to (some of which have no sneaker rules). EDIT: if you do purchase leather boots or shoes make sure that you research leather care and they will last you forever! This also makes the cost more justifiable.
  
  
• Lastly, remember that it won't happen all at once. Gradually acquire more and more of the wardrobe you want and eventually you won't wear your old stuff to the point that you can get rid of it

Well this is not so special; sorry. Everyone comes to MFA with some backstory but every wants the same thing; to dress better. And the best way to do that is to read the sidebar. But I'm going to help you out while you read.

The best way to dress like Tony Stark (in my own humble opinion) is to dress casual-formal; that is to say dress up to formal then take it down. What this is going to entail is wearing jeans/denim with a button down shirt. Lose the tie though. So basically, the first piece of advice I'd give is Denim+Button down. Check out the denim guide; I can't speak too much about quality (I get what fits) but I personally buy from Gap, and their stuff is decent quality for the price. If you want to take it a step up, Raw Denim is the way to go. I know almost nothing about that so I can't help you there. Now when it comes to button downs, there are a couple of places to go. If you are anywhere near a Uniqlo, go there. They have extremely good quality stuff FOR THEIR PRICE POINT. You could probably pick up a good smattering of colored shirts; If not there, some other places that will have interesting patterns/color+good quality are J.Crew, Epaulet, Gap/Banana Republic, Brooks Brothers. I would recommend getting a bunch of colors and patterns, along with a few solid colors. Blue and Red are good colors that will match many colors of Denim. Get a few patterned shirts as well; I would recommend trying to keep the over shirt color 'light' though; nothing like Black and Green. If possible, stick to a pattern that is one color and white (e.g. blue and white).

If you want to take it a step further up, you can try out the Chino/BD style, which is more or less wearing well fitting chinos with a button down. This requires as much work as the denim/bd look, but you will end up with a slightly more monotone look (the most common chinos are khaki/black/grey). For this reason I would recommend that you consider getting some multi-colored pants; Red, Yellow, Green, Blue pants along with the standard colors will make you stand out. Some places to get these things are (again) J.Crew, Epaulet, Gap, Levi's, LL Bean, Lands End, and Bonobos. Bonobos tends to have more colors/patterns than others, but they are also much more expensive (less so with a referral) but I would recommend going to somewhere like Levi's or Gap and getting a pair of their $30-$50 colored pants. This look requires a lot more color matching, but the result makes you POP to the ladies.

As for the shoes, the shoe guide is quite good. Avoid sneakers, and perhaps look into getting a pair of these or These, MFA's favorite shoe. Both are different than sneakers and different than boat shoes. These are most winter/full pants shoes, so you'll have to look into a different pair for the summer.

I hope this helps.

I've been living with only the contents of my 46 liter Osprey and a single plastic tub of clothing for about six months now. I could do without the tub of clothing easily (and have for weeks at a time while traveling), just more convenient to not have to do laundry every 4 days and also get fresh clean clothes every day.

My recommendation is to break up with a long term partner and let her keep everything. I never wanted all that stuff to begin with and it's awesome to own so little. I could be ready (and have been) for an international 4 week flight in less than 30 minutes.

Contents are pretty basic.

• Laptop. A thin ultrabook right now. Considering leaving this behind when traveling since, while nice, it's probably at least 20% of my bag's weight right now and I could live without it. Would be nice to get a gaming laptop that I would obviously never travel with but that's a pretty big luxury item since I don't play games very often.
  
• Chargers and external backup battery (about the size of a cell phone)
  
• Toiletries including tissues, a few paper towels, lotions and hair products, shampoo, electric toothbrush. I bought tiny little ziplock bags that I keep medicine in as well so I don't need a year's supply with me or a giant bottle. I write the dosage on the bag so I don't have to Google it if I can't remember. I have medicine for pretty much any occasion because the last thing I want to do when I'm sick or feeling shitty in a country where I don't speak the language is have to go find medicine and hope everything isn't closed. Also maybe TMI, but I have a portable bidet because it's nice to always feel "clean" and never have to worry about running out of TP when traveling.
  
• Travel pillow and travel towel. Never needed either really, only used pillow away from home a few times, but both would really suck to need and not have. I use the pillow as a "leg" pillow between my knees most nights and on planes to sleep a bit.
  
• One pair khakis
  
• One pair khaki Ex Officio shorts (doubles as swim suit)
  
• 4-5 basic grey v neck shirts (they're all the same)
  
• One pair of Nike workout shorts and a workout t-shirt. The shorts (when clean) are good for just walking around the house comfortably or when you need to go out for a minute for whatever reason and just want to slip something on. Also for working out, obviously.
  
• One dress shirt and a brown belt
  
• Brown boots
  
• flip flops
  
• Casual but stylish lace up loafer/boat shoe thing (grey). These are pretty flat and compress well.
  
• 3 pairs of ExOfficio underwear.
  
• Sunglasses and case for them so they don't get squished. Also premoistened lens wipes.
  
• Rain jacket and a stylish light jacket that can be casual or formal
  
  Clothes/jackets all packed in packing cubes. Makes it much easier to get what you want without tearing your bag apart. Toiletries in their own toiletry bag.
  
  The shorts and underwear can be hand washed very quickly and dry within 20 minutes. I can dress up nice enough for anything except formal weddings or funerals.
  
  Oh, and some wool socks. One long pair for boots and pants, a few very short (no show) pairs for shorts and loafers.
  
  Only thing I would change is making the khakis and shirts wool. But that shit is expensive. And reduce number of shirts to two or three since drying wool shirts is much faster than cotton and don't get smelly after a single day.
  
  One more thing that is probably my favorite is a travel backpack that can stuff into a small pouch. I use it constantly and it's super small and light. I have the Amazon Basics one.
  
  The tub of extra clothing just has a lot of extra socks (all the same pair so no hunting and matching needed), extra underwear (all ex officio), jeans (which I don't travel with but will wear at home, again multiple pairs of the exact same brand/style/size), extra grey v-neck tshirts (I own about a dozen of the same shirt, but only travel with about 4 or 5), and more dress shirts so I can look nice on a day-to-day basis. I care less about looking "nice" when traveling which is why I only take one. Tub also has several extra workout shorts and shirts, again all the same brand/style.
  
  My dress shirts are the only thing I own that has variation. They're all the same brand and fit, just different colors/patterns.
  
  Things I carry on myself: phone, gum, wallet, keys. Wallet is only driver's license, debit and credit card, folded up blank check, a single business card, and about $100 cash. I use a binder clip to keep it together because even the slimmest wallets more than double the bulk. Key chain has 3 keys and and a utilikey but nothing else. Very handy having a knife that makes it through TSA, in addition to a screwdriver and bottle opener.

Can't help you with the pants thing, but the shoes I can.
Business shoes:

• First option would be the classic business penny loafer: http://www.brassboot.com/shop/style/93391-222.html These will go with just about any business/casual look you can think of, from formal to denim. Certainly one of the most versatile types of shoes in and out of the business world, anything this style will suit your needs. Brassboot is one of my personal favorites, but any penny loafers will be a definite good bet.
  
  
• If you prefer something that many think is more casual, you can try the driving shoe (also known as frat cleats due to their prevalence in southern frat style): http://www.amazon.com/Polo-Ralph-Lauren-Up-Leather/dp/B003PGQ8UW%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-z-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB003PGQ8UW Very similar to the penny loafers, but without the heel and with a cleated underside. They are more comfortable for a lot of people because they are much less rigid, but this also means that they will not keep their shape long. I had the pair I linked to, and got about a year of use from them before the toes started to tear. The most popular driving loafers are Cole Haans:
  http://www.amazon.com/Cole-Haan-Grant-Loafer-Grain/dp/B00427E5W6%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-z-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00427E5W6
  
  
• I would suggest keeping Sperry's or boat shoes as far away from your business casual wardrobe as you can. If you really like the look of boat shoes, camp mocs are their slightly-more-dressed-up cousin: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ralph-lauren-footwear-henley-camp-mocs-for-men~p~64004/
  
  
• Of course, this being MFA, I think it's necessary that I recommend CDB at some point: http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Desert-Taupe-Suede/dp/B000VWDZHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328190823&sr=8-1 You know what they are, they'll work in just about any scenario. They may not be the most comfortable shoe in the world, though, and depending on the office, they may be too casual.
  
  
• If you want to get a little dressier, or you like the look of laces, try wingtips oxfords: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF6105_1_40000000001_-1
  
  
• And finally, some nice suede bucks never go out of style, especially during s/s: http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=06L0&adv=127748&cm_mmc=plas-_-MensClothing-_-06L0-_-127748&kpid=06L0-02-07%26catargetid=1796447680&cagpspn=pla
  
  If comfort is really one of your main concerns, you will probably want to pick up some kind of gel sole to put in whatever shoe you want to wear. Also, loafers will need to be broken in to your foot. The best way to do this without hurting your feet is to get loafer socks, which shouldn't show at all.
  Also, check out the sidebar links about shoes.
  If you need anything else, feel free to ask
  (And if this answer looks familiar, I wrote it up three days ago and copied and pasted it here because you asked the same question).

You need to read a lot from the sidebar. It will help. I know it's a lot to read and it's intimidating, but it's worth the time investment. Also start paying attention to what you think looks good. Movies, pictures, people on the street. whatever. with time you'll get better.

Everything is too big. Since corsair_002 did an amazing job, I'll try to just give a few specific recommendations. You dont need to take them, but it might help you get at least 1 good outfit going.

• Get some slim fit tshirts in solid colors with no graphics or branding. Navy blue, dark grey, & medium grey are the first ones I would get for you. You are going to want to pay attention not only to where the shoulder seem lines up, but also to the diameter of the sleeves. Being so thin means that most mall brand shirts will not fit you in the sleeves. I would only buy shirts that fit you there. It makes short sleeve shirts really look good on a person.
  
  
• Get some slimmer jeans. levis 513 or levis 511 in a dark wash like the rigid dragon color on the 511s. I would try the 511s first. if you are too uncomfortable in them, either give it a few days to get used to it, or try the 513s. Whatever the inseam is on your jeans now, you will want to try 2-4 inches shorter. You have what's called stacking, and when keeping things simple we dont want that much of it.
  
  
• while plimsolls are awesome and cheap. Try van authentics in the color labeled "true white". Dont worry about keeping them white. They look better when they are a bit beat up. Dont expect them to last more than a year.
  
  
• after you get plimsolls get some boots. clarks desert boots in the color labeled "beeswax" are cheap and look good. Chippewa gqs are the next cheapest, but decent looking boot. These will last you a few years.
  
  
• ditch the glasses. Get contacts and get some sunglasses. I like rayban wayfayers, since you have what looks like brown hair I would get the color labeled "tortoise shell" with the green lenses.
  
  
• I would grow your top hair out just a bit more and cut the sides shorter. Your haircut, glasses, & outfit are making you look boring. If I was you, I would fight that with a killer haircut. it can add a lot of attitude to your looks.
  
  One thing you dont want to do is get some slim jeans, nice footwear, dope shades, a new haircut and then wear a big old baggy shirt like this. You are a slim guy. Keep it all slim.

There's not a whole lot to go on here, what is your goal? Some people would recommend the sidebar, but personally I think it's a bit much and it tends to homogenize how some people look.

I would say, start off with finding some well-fitting casual clothes. Some white t-shirts, a pair of nice blue jeans (Try Levi's, 511's or 513's. Or spend a little more and get something nicer, like Second Narrow or 3sixteen.), and most importantly some footwear would be a good start.

For footwear, I'd recommend a pair of sneakers. What you get is up to you. Some recommendations I would make would be:

Vans sk8-hi's

Vans Old Skools

Adidas Stan Smiths

Air Force Ones

I'd also suggest a pair of boots, but it might be out of your price range. I'm a fan of black boots, although most people on this subreddit would recommend brown ones. Some nice boots to start off with would be:

Thorogoods (the plain toe is nice as well)

Chippewas

Clarks, although personally I would recommend you get Sand or Oakwood instead of "beeswax". The beeswax ones do not age well, and they are kind of boring.

Doc Martens I am a huge fan of this model in particular

Finally, I would recommend a black jacket to start you off with. What you get is up to you. It could be a bomber, a trucker, a varsity, a parka, an m-65, or whatever. An olive jacket would also be good, though maybe not as cool.

Other than that, it's hard to give you recommendations without knowing what you like.

Don't cut your hair.

(also, your face reminds me a little bit of The Arm, if he was less menacing.)

Absolutely. Desert Boots are great and if you like the look of them, but are looking for something cheaper, their Bushacre 2's are nice, just take some breaking in. I wouldn't say that any Clark's shoes are as comfortable as sneakers though (Wallabies have really cushioned soles, but lack stability. Desert Boots are less comfortable, but really solid, stable shoes).

That said, neither of those options are really "dress" shoes. There are "dressier" shoes that you could wear to church or to parties, but aren't meant to be worn in place of black dress shoes. Clarks sells some dress shoes, but they aren't particularly known for them and I have no experience with them. I personally like Cole Haans like many people here have said. I own this pair that are good for what I need them for (summer internship and interviews during the year) and are pretty comfortable after a bit of breaking in. Not sure what line of work you're in, but if its somewhere where you'll be working up the corporate ladder and wearing a suit most of your life, they're good starter shoes. Oh, and I think I paid ~$120-130 for them when they were on sale at a Nordstrom, so you can definitely get a better price if you're willing to wait.

I'm sure I'll get raked for this but...

You should start with the loved/hated "MFA Uniform."

Some of the big ones that are helpful for beginners:

Shirts: Given your claim of being tall/skinny/long armed I'd doubly recommend Oxford shirts and rolling the sleeves in lieu of t-shirts, as an OCBD is suitable for nearly all occasions. A rolled sleeve will disguise if the sleeves aren't the correct length, and will also help you to seem better proportioned. Prices vary a lot, but you should be able to find some affordable ones at virtually any retailer.

Jeans: Fit is obviously the most important for jeans. Trends favor "slim" jeans but not everyone can rock it, so don't worry if you end up with "regular," but for the love of God avoid boot cuts or the like. A big thing you need to know is that jeans fade over time, giving them a more desirable appearance (better contrast/visible texture). Because of this you should get dark jeans (which go better with most clothing) and allow them to fade naturally over time. Here is an album of Levi's 511 "Rigid Dragon" jeans after 3 years of wear, to give you an idea of just how radically the colors of your jeans will change over time. Wear them as often as possible and wash them as rarely as possible (wash inside out only, cold water, do not machine dry), as washing causes the color to set in. If possible just get some Levi's jeans, they're not that expensive and they'll last a long time.

Shoes: Three words my friend: Clarks Desert Boots. Get them in Beeswax and they'll not only go with almost any outfit, but will be appropriate for almost any occasion outside of formal ones. CDBs run big, so get them in at least a half size smaller than you usually wear. Try not to get them wet, they're meant for moderate dry weather.

That's some starter advice for you, I hope it helps.

P.S. Don't buy stuff right away, try to keep an eye out for sales.

Get some Iron Rangers factory seconds. They go on sale from time to time down to $160. Great, great boot. I got some of the Red Wing insoles for around $25 that made a world of a difference as far as heat is concerned. Size .5-1 size down. If you have wide feet, don't size down to .5 size down, depending on your foot size.

You also have the Chippewa Service Boot. I got my brother some for Christmas and they are actually really nice. The "Cordovan" option looks lovely and is a lot more versatile than one might think as it's a more burgundy color. But it really works in occasions where you would wear this sort of thing.

The Thorogoods Moc Toe is a great boot as well for a different look. These can't be dressed up as easily IMO, but good boots the same. Red Wing has a similar boot if you'd prefer the look of it. It's also a good boot.

For all of these, get some nice wool socks. Darn Tough makes some good ones but I don't like the looks. Anonymousism also makes some good stuff provided you like the colors, but IMO are a bit overpriced. My favorite wool socks came from J. Crew last season. They are thick, warm, look good, and were reasonable priced.

If you have any other questions, let me know!

Congrats! Although, for the record, "come back after you lose some weight" isn't very common advice in MFA.

As far as starting from scratch, the Basic Wardrobe guide in the sidebar is a great start, but you'll want to think about what works best in your climate, for your age, and for your job/school. It's a inoffensive baseline to help you be well-dressed while you learn and develop your own style. The incredibly abbreviated version is straight/slim-leg jeans in a dark, nondristressed wash, vneck tshirts, Oxford cloth button-up shirts with button-down collar points (aka ocbds), simple canvas sneakers in neutral colors like white or gray, and brown leather shoes or boots in classic styles.

Edit: More details for a basic wardrobe on a budget. I'm going to focus on things you can try on in person, since I think that's critical when you're starting from scratch.

• For jeans, Levi's 501/514/508/511, which should be available at every anchor store at every mall in America. JCPenney has newly-renovated Levi's sections in all of their stores, so that might be a good place to start. The numbers refer to different cuts (normal vs. slim legs, straight vs. tapered, etc), so I advise trying all of them on, and in a couple different waist sizes. If you're unsure about which fits you best, post a thread on MFA with some fitting room pics. We'll help you out.
  
  
• Mossimo v-neck tshirts at Target are usually $8-10 and fit most people really well. Almost everything they have is a versatile color, but for wearing with dark jeans, I'd avoid navy and black because they don't create enough visual distinction. For a quick fit check, make sure the shoulder seams of the shirt line up with the bony protusions at the edge of your shoulders. Too many people wear shirts with shoulder seams drooping halfway to their biceps, which looks sloppy.
  
  
• Target's Merona ocbds are also a decent choice, although this is a common enough shirt that they're going to have something very similar at JCPenney, Macys, H&M, or any store that carries a large line of men's clothing. Look for solid white or light blue. You can use basically the same quick fit check for ocbds that you do for t-shirts.
  
  
• A lot of mall stores will carry Vans Authentics, which are a classic canvas plimsoll. Some of the stores are going to be obviously targeting a teenage demographic, but you can just ignore everything but the shoes you're looking for. Look for white, off-white, or light grey. Avoid black. There's a misconception that black sneakers go with everything, but it's my mission to disabuse people of that idea. Black is a stark, somber color that's incongruent with the casualness of sneakers. Black's also not a neutral, and as I mentioned in the bullet about t-shirts, it doesn't go well with dark blue denim.
  
  
• For casual leather shoes, Sperry Top-sider boat shoes are a really popular option, but they're more of a spring/summer shoe in my opinion, so we're getting to the point where they won't be in season. Some versatile options that are more appropriate for Fall are desert boots, tan bucks, and blucher mocs. Unfortunately, these may be harder to find in local stores. Again, shades of brown are what you want.
  
  You can pick up all of this stuff for $300-400, which isn't a bad investment for looking good.
  
  2nd Edit: I just saw in another comment that you wear size 15 shoes, so mall stores may not work out for you after all. I put this guide to large-sized footwear together a few weeks ago, and you can see that most of the shoes I recommended above are available online in your size.
  
  

I'll earn some contempt from other MFAers for this, but I'm excited that you are eager to be a more sartorial Man's Man instead of the twinks, ironic nerd, preppies, and drop-crotch streetwear I keep seeing here. I appreciate their styles, but I want to see more blue collar style.

Footwear: Invest in some good boots Timberlands / Redwings / Thorogood

Pants: You want a slimmer chino, but you need to be able to move in them, so not too slim. Alphas / Land's End / Gap

I wouldn't bother too much with Denim, a single pair of slim fitting dark wash jeans if any for the time being. Quality denim is going to be out of your price range right now. Just don't get any that are pre-distressed.

Shirts: Fit will be an issue here. Your natural build is going have narrower shoulders than men of your height. Since we base successful fit on shoulders above anything else, you might be left with very tight fit throughout the chest and waist. Trial and error will be the only way to go about this, but I'd say avoid slim fit here. I could have this completely backwards though.
No Graphic T's /Henleys / Chambray is nice here in FL / Any patterned button downs (stay away from pearl snaps- we're trying to avoid flair)

Outdoor jacket: Timberland Waterproof!

Avoid

• hoodies - They are simple and comfortable, but lack structure and embody the touristy unprofessional look you are trying to get away from. They have their place, but not for what you are seeking right now)
  
• Athletic shoes - save these for the gym, not for work
  
• Hats - Unless they bare the logo of your workplace. At work is no time to advertise for any sports teams, brands, opinions on your clothing
  
• Flashy watches - If you plan on wearing a watch keep the face size within reason and the color and style simple
  *Jewelry - unless it has sentimental value, rings,earrings, necklaces, and bracelets are not what you are looking for
  
  Haircut note: I'd recommend cutting the sides and back much much shorter, and you can leave whatever length on top. Right now it looks very youthful and wild instead of professional.

Fellow big-foot here. The struggle is real. I have wide-ass feet (wide ass-feet?), and have a terrible time finding shoes.

MFA is split on the sneakers thing, but I love a pair of New Balances just because they have consistently made shoes in my size. Depending where you work and who you are etc some simple, classic sneakers can look good with jeans and a button-up.

I love their classics line with jeans, and there are a bunch in size 15.

Generally, most classic, clean shoes work well with jeans and a button-down. I've been wearing a pair of white nike blazers recently which also come in a 15.

The MFA-favorite, the Clark's Desert Boot comes in a 15.

It looks like neither Apache nor Chippewa come in a 15, but you could probably peruse this post to find a brand that makes some. Even if they're a little expensive, always just buy the right pair of boots the first time! I skimped on my first pair, and I'm just counting down until next winter when I can justify buying the right pair.

GOOD LUCK!

YTA, multiple times unfortunately.

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I tried counting, but honestly (Insert Master Luke Meme Here), just about everything you have said was wrong. Basically, if you force your guests to take off their shoes to enter your house, you are assuming responsibility for them. Ain't nobody taking off their shoes unless they are asked/required to. How would someone know the risks associated with leaving shoes where the host told them to?

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" if you have something valuable, you have to put it out of reach of a dog." " I told her that everyone knows dogs are pretty destructive. "

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-Dude, if that's what you honestly think, you have either never met a "House Friendly" dog before, or you have a pretty skewed idea of what "House Friendly" entails. Did you rescue a junkyard dog or something?

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" but who goes walking around wearing $500+ shoes?! "

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-Just about anyone who is a professional. You are drastically out of touch here. Even construction boots are easily $200:

https://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-American-Heritage-MAXwear-Safety/dp/B00623DYVQ

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"Listen, I'm really sorry that [Dogsname] chewed up your shoes, but I don't really think it's fair for me to have to pay you money for shoes that you didn't even buy. Maybe we can go shopping together soon and I'll help you pick out a new pair and I'll look for whatever coupons or deals are out there."

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-Wow. Just wow. Your friend is obviously an angel in human form for not physically injuring you. I don't condone violence, but just thinking about someone saying this to me makes me cringe so bad that my fight or flight sense wants to take over. Specifically, it's the coupons part - That's just some icing on a multi-layered cringe cake.

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" I just can't really afford to pay for shoes that expensive "

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-Ahhhhhhhhh, the truth sets you freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! You should have led with this. Your friend is obviously willing to compromise to save your friendship, but if I didn't know any better, I'd say it looks like you are actively working to screw her over like she's an abusive ex that cheated on you.

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" Aaaand after that, she apparently sent our thread to the other girls and everyone has decided I'm some big monster and they no longer want to do the TV parties at my place."

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It's not that you are a monster, it's that you are so completely clueless that this kind of thing will absolutely happen again. Personally, I'm struggling to understand the logic of someone who has their guests take their shoes off (This as itself bothers me, but that's a whole different thread), but then has a feral fucking animal in the house.

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I used to buy a lot more stuff, but lately I've been trying to slim down to just a few, high-quality items. Of the things I own, here's a few that I really love:

1. Iron Rangers you all know about these. I love cleaning and polishing them.
   
   
2. Filson X Levi Oil Finish Trucker Breaks in awesome and turns every outfit into workwear
   
   
3. J.CREW Bayswater peacoat in thinsulate I actually bought this twice because I lost the first one while on a train in berlin.
   
   
4. Rogue Territory Stanton Jeans They fit great, slim but not tight.
   
   
5. Bison down fingerless gloves Super warm!

You need to be realistic. Outside catching a deal on eBay, you are not going to find boots in your size for less than $100. Your best bets in that range are Thorogoods (Plain toe, Moc toe, Chuka boot, and Lace-to-toe) and Chippewa (Apache GQ - brown or tan, lugged or smooth sole) on Amazon.com

Chippewas go up to size 14EE. Thorogoods go up to size 14EEEE in some styles but mostly just to 14EE. You may not need to go all the way up to size 14 or all the way up to EEEE though. Boots typically run one full size larger than you sneaker size so you may be looking for size 13E or 13EE.

My advice is to buy from Amazon.com Their prices are already low as hell, and on top of that you get free returns (which is hugely important when selecting shoes) and they are running a permanent 20% off shoes coupon.

If you Google for "Amazon shoe email" and sign up for the email you will receive a 20% off coupon good for shoes. After you sign up for this email list and receive your coupon the next step is waiting for your size to restock on Amazon. Perhaps setting a camelcamelcamel alert for your size and a high price will help alert you when they are restocked. Size E-EEEE seem to go quick when they restock, so having this alert will help.

Here is my advice: I know you only want to spend $100, but that is unrealistic. You should do what it takes to make your budget flexible up to $120 total. This opens you up to the Thorogoods and Chippewas I mentioned above. Next, go checkout these: http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-Apache-Lace-Up-Boot/dp/B004TK2RPS and these: http://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-American-Heritage-Plain-Toe-Boot/dp/B002QQ8XB4/ref=pd_sbs_shoe_3 They are both available today in size 14EE. Order them using the 20% off coupon. You don't have to keep one or both, but this will allow you to see if size 14EE is the right size in each company's boots. If you like a pair keep them, and send the other one back. Notice the large lugged sole on the Chippewas. This will not be as versatile and will be much more casual/work-y than the smooth soled Chippewa, but those are not in stock right now in size 14EE for you to have shipped and try on. Once you have your size down you can make a better decision exactly what shoe you want and you can wait for it to come in stock and at a price you like.

spreading out the money over three pairs will get you three pairs of crappy shoes. If you need to start from scratch basically, two pairs for 150 would be doable. Since you're 17 and in high school, I'm assuming you don't really do much walking around in puddles/snow since you just walk from the car/bus to the school and back for the most part, is that right?

Do you have something to wear in the snow when it does snow? What do you normally do?

If that's the case, you can get away with getting some three-season shoes instead of a winter boot.Clark's Desert Boots in Beeswax leather is something that is recommended a lot (the subreddit logo is even a desert boot) because they look good with virtually anything besides shorts. The only problem with these is that even though they are a boot, they are a desert boot and are made primarily for warm climates. Even if you treat them with a waterproofer, water will still get through the seems and they won't keep your feet very warm. If you don't do much outside walking, that's not really a problem though. Try them on in a store first and then shop around for a good deal. You should be able to find a pair for like $70 or even less.

If you wear shorts, you need a pair of shoes to wear with those. A pair of light grey or off-white converse will fit nicely. Light grey is a little less harsh and you can wear white shirts with them. I have a pair of white Jack Purcells but when I wear white shirts, it feels a little too matchy-matchy. Chuck Taylors are a little cheaper (~$45) but they are more ubiquitous, while Jack Purcells look a little nicer imo (at ~$55).

you should have like 30 bucks left over after that, just save it or grab a pair of leather laces for your Converse. If you have to pick just one, I would pick the Converse if you're planning to wear shorts. If not, then go with the Clarks.

Oh, just remembered another option instead of the Clarks for you would be this LL Bean Blucher Moc. You can wear these with basically anything, including jeans and shorts, and they should be able to take more weather than the desert boots will. If it gets wet where you live, you might consider these instead of the Clarks or instead of both. When it gets cooler, use some of your other cash for some wool socks and that should look really great while still being functional.

If you don't have a winter boot and if it snows a lot where you are/you spend a lot of time outside, you might consider getting a pair of boots with your money instead. These fit your price range, look good, and should last through a lot.

Also you should check out /r/TeenMFA and /r/frugalmalefashion because there are a lot more kids in your age and with your type of budget restraints.

With my amazing ability to estimate quid to dollars I'll try to help you, friend! A beautiful pair of work boots I often suggest are Eastland moc toes.

http://www.eastlandshoe.com/product/mens+lumber+up+boot.do?sortby=ourPicks&carousel=true

They should keep your feet dry and they are simply stunning casual boots for extremely cheap and they will last much longer than a year I believe.

A more pricey option is Thorogood who are pretty great Red Wing impostors that last a long time!

http://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-814-4200-Moc-Toe-Boot/dp/B002QQ8XRI

Here's there moc toes in 6". There's a %20 off code for all thorogood boots on Amazon I believe BOOTUP14 that might still be working and those aren't very expensive at all if you'd even look to spend £150 on boots.

For about 150 pounds Red Wing sells beautiful moc toes. Red Wings Mocs can look really stellar in every look.
http://i.imgur.com/UjPpR.png

Tell me what kinda look you're looking for and maybe I can be more specific.

I disagree about graphic t-shirts, band t-shirts, and cargo shorts. Your beef with cargo shorts probably arises from everybody in the fucking world wearing them, so they're a bit overused, and sometimes too baggy. I'd say don't wear only cargo shorts, and don't wear them with the camo pattern.

Graphic tees are way to versatile to say, don't wear them! Lol, no one is wearing graphic tees to try and look badass (but don't wear skulls on your shirts for the love of god). 19, 20 is not to old to wear graphic tees. But there is a range. If it looks like someone threw up on your shirt, then no, don't wear that. However, there's nothing wrong with liking a band and wearing a shirt by them I think. The ones I don't like are the black background rock ones with 90% of the front taken up with some graphic and ones that have tour dates on them.

also this is a fucking awesome shirt, but I wouldn't recommend wearing it.

This however is better.

Funny t-shirts can come off as lame, but if you like it, then get it, wear it. Today I saw a kid in this as a t-shirt. I would not recommend that. This is alright, still not the coolest thing, but it can make you happy to wear it, and other to see it, so why not.

Not sure what is wrong with pac-sun, they have good shorts that fit this guys specifications, and some other good stuff. Just don't get the Volcom/Element label stuff, especially if it looks like someone threw up on it.

Don't wear too skinny jeans if you have no leg muscle.

He suggests wearing these and I've got to disagree. He's far off on the shoes in general. I think I have a better feel for you, and wearing dress shoes around is probably not your style. Get some sandals that aren't super cheap. I don't see anything wrong with New Balance, I'm sure the guy I'm replying too will, but only people who are really into shoes are going to look down on people who are wearing New Balance or the like. Just get something simple that isn't 20 different colors and patterns.

V-necks WILL make you look like a douchebag, the not so dipped collar, just a little bit to some people, and never, ever, ever the super low V-necks

It seems like you're already getting advice on the "new jeans" front (also check out the links on the side -->), so I can offer some shoe recommendations if you want.

Basically, there are a LOT of options in between "gym shoes" and "dress shoes." It really depends on your style. You could go with a simple canvas shoe like these if you want to stick with sneakers. For a slightly classier look, Sperry boat shoes are comfortable and never go out of style.

I love my Sperry Topsiders, especially now that it's getting warmer out, since you can wear them without socks and they go with shorts as well. But I live in an area where "preppy" style is the norm, so boat shoes are almost required :P

For shoes specifically with jeans, another common MFA recommendation is desert boots, especially Clarks. They're a great casual/going out shoe with jeans, and a good summer pickup as they are meant for warmer months.

Hope that helps! Also check out this guide for summer shoes.

A good computer bag.

Not even joking. It's the one thing I always have with me when on campus.

After that, this is going to sound cliche, but take a look at the MFA uniform and draw inspiration from there. Some Clarks Desert Boots, a good fitting pair of dark wash jeans, and an Oxford cloth button down look great together, and are a great place to start. You'll probably want to look more towards fall/winter styles than spring/summer styles though (unless you live somewhere that is hot in the winter).

Unfortunately it is hard to give specific advice without knowing where you're starting at, but remember that fit is king. There is nothing more important in the world of fashion than making sure that your clothing fits properly, and definitely check out the sidebar (over on the right).

edit: Oh, and if you're in a business program, make sure you have business casual or a suit ready (if not both). You'll need them for presentations and events.

This kind of thing is generally very open to interpretation depending upon your personal sense of style, so feel free to pick and choose from everyone's suggestions. Here are what I'd call the, "essentials" that make up my closet. [Note: Due to time constraints I will come back later and update this post with more items. For now here are some formal pieces and shoes.]

Formal Wear:

• One tailored, well-fitting suit. Invest in getting the proper alterations done goes a long way, and can make cheaper suits look ten times better than their more expensive counterparts. Go with charcoal or navy as a first choice in color (charcoal leans slightly more formal, navy slightly more casual). - J.Crew Factory Thompson
  
• When you're dressing formally, you want to look your absolute best. A baggy or ill-fitting dress shirt can undo all the work put into making your suit perfectly. Invest in either made-to-measure items, or take them to your tailor. The upfront cost may be high, but it's a great investment that you'll be thankful for when you stand out in the sea of frumpy shirted guys wearing sack suits. The number of shirts you should own will ultimately depend on how often you find yourself needing to dress up, but I'd recommend having 1-2 white, one light blue, and one light pink shirts.
  
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• A pair of casual leather shoes - Sperry Top-Sider
  

• A pair of casual sneakers - Converse
  
• A pair of formal dress shoes (black, cap toe) - Bostonian
  
• A pair of less formal dress shoes Allen Edmonds
  
• A casual boot - Clarks Desert Boot
  
• An outdoor/hiking boot - Thorogood
  
• A pair of running shoes - New Balance

A: Congrats on deciding to dress more fashionably. I don't think that you should necessarily conflate this with dressing "more grown-up." Many grown-ups dress sloppily/non-fashionably/wear clothes that don't fit.

B: Good job reading the sidebar. For additional information I am a big fan of Alan Flusser's book "Dressing the Man." It focuses on what, today, is a formal wardrobe for the average man. It explains many of the "why"s of wearing items/fabrics/patterns. I also recommend the "Basic Men's Fashion" series of articles on the website fashionbeans.

C. There are a few keys to spending your money wisely. First, fit is key. Ask questions and read up in order to understand how each article of clothing should fit. Second, certain things are in or out of fashion. Pleated pants, for instance, are really out of fashion (with the possible exception of suit trousers). When in doubt, simpler is usually better when it comes to styling. Third, figure out what colors work together and what colors work for YOU. Your complexion will play a part in choosing what to wear.

D: It sounds like you may want a separate set of clothes to wear in the lab if there are really accidents as often as you say. It would just be unfortunate to buy some nice clothes and ruin them the first week.

E: The shoes are rather unfashionable. Some would even say "ugly." Ideally, shoes should be shaped to fit your foot. A squared or extremely pointy toe is a no-no. The toe of these is rather bulbous looking. Rather than coming to a smooth round toe they kind of flare out. In addition, the sole gives them a chunky look. This contrasts with the leather and the stitching just throws everything off. The shoes seem unable to decide whether they want to be a work boot style shoe (brown leather, chunky sole) or a more casual sneaker type of shoe (toe shape, contrast stitching).

F. It is sometimes said that your shoes should be the most expensive part of any outfit. Shoes can be pricey but when well-cared for they will really last. It is also a lot easier to find shoes that fit (for most) than pants or shirts as foot sizing varies less than body sizes. I would recommend a couple of the following classics.

1. LL Bean Moc
   
   
2. Clark Desert Boot in Beeswax
   
   
3. Converse All Stars
   
   
4. A nice clean penny loafer in brown leather.
   
   

First post here as a rookie, looking for advice on a few shoes:

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- My Clarks Chukkas (https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Chukka-Beeswax/dp/B004DCNN64/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1536692195&sr=8-3&keywords=clarks+chukka) have fallen apart (soles are cracked straight through) within 10 months or so and I'm looking to replace them with a similar aesthetic (i.e. brown/dark-ish, not black), but hopefully more durable. Any recommendations? $100-250 price point

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- My original thought what the chukkas above didn't hold up due to water, but maybe they are just cheap since apparently the soles are rubber? Either way water gets in through the soles VERY easily. I was thinking of (in addition to the above) buying a boot that's better in the wetter weather. I want something that can be semi-casual and worn with jeans/chinos. I like the aesthetic of the AE Normandy Boots in brown, but i'm afraid they aren't built for the purpose (i.e. light-medium water/rain) since they have leather soles. Does anyone have any other recommendations that are similar within the $150-300 price range?

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(What would be nice would be to eliminate the need for this second option and kill two birds with one stone with the Chukkas.)

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- Lastly, I'm mostly settled on getting some AE Park Avenues in Dark Chili to go with a 3-peice BL Midnight Navy suit I am ordering. No question here, just pointing out. These won out over the darker brown or Oxblood options.

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Thanks for the help!

Hey fellow midwesterner,

Try looking at /r/frugalmalefashion for deals. You can really get some amazing deals there.

But besides that, here are the few things I can suggest;

Tshirts: [Uniqlo Supima Tshirts] (https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/men/t-shirts/short-sleeve/supima-cotton/), H&M Basic Tees (Just because they are cheap and fits me perfectly), Wohven (Tshirt subscription for $8 per month which delivers good quality tagless plain t-shirts).

Shirts & Button Ups: [Brook Brothers Blue Oxford] (http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Solid-Oxford-Sport-Shirt/MG01372_____BLUE_MED______,default,pd.html?src=googleshopping&cmp=ppc_us_GG_pla_Men%27sShirts&gclid=CjwKEAiA2abEBRCdx7PqqunM1CYSJABf3qvaJzMdov7_cDkjagUYYv8vI7bsXNFBcoXyM6IgEsCkMRoCGY3w_wcB), Casual Shirts from Charles Tyrwhitt

Pants: [Levis Jeans] (http://www.levi.com/US/en_US/mens-jeans/p/045112110?camp=CAGPLA_DF:04511211003334:LEVI), [J Crew Factory Chinos] (https://factory.jcrew.com/mens_special_sizes/Slim/pantsdenim/PRDOVR~07310/07310.jsp), Jomer Chinos (Very hard to get hold of these, sign up for their newsletter and see when they are back in stock)

Shoe: Adidas Stan Smith (Currently on Sale), [New Balance] (https://www.joesnewbalanceoutlet.com/men/shoes/lifestyle/?Categories=men&Categories=shoes&Categories=lifestyle&PriceRange=&OnSale=&Icon=&Brand=0&PageSize=24&Page=1&Branded=False&ListType=Grid&Text=&Sorting=LowestPrice) (Good Prices at their outlet store), Clarks Original Chukka, [Golden Fox Boots for Snow] (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dfashion&field-keywords=Golden+fox) (These are some of my favorite boots for cheap. They are extremely comfortable.)

Outerwear: [Parkas] (http://us.asos.com/men/jackets-coats/parkas/cat/?cid=12931), (ASOS usually have some good ones), Pea Coat (Not extremely sure where to shop for a good pea coat), Uniqlo MA-1 Bomber Jacket

Again, there are some of the basics, cheaper options that I can think of. Good Luck

if these are your "moccasin style dress shoes", then what you're looking for are chukkas (or the "desert boot").
I've got a pair of those clarks, and really like them, though the soles are a super weird soft rubber material that will wear at the edges and darken quickly, but they find a balance pretty quick, so you don't need to worry about eating through the sole super fast.
I also just picked up another pair from CK, which have a much nicer sole, but are super narrow for my usual tastes.

I'm not positive but I don't think roughout will do very good in wet conditions. Also I think if you don't like the color of the boot don't buy them, get some boots in a color you like. I'm guessing you want those because you can get them cheap locally, but if you're trying to stay cheap maybe something like this or this might work better for you. Or look for some used Red Wings.

Something with a lugged sole will grip much better than the wedge sole on all of these but I think unless you're running around in snow/ice very frequently you'll be fine, plus you could always get some cleats for them. It'll be pretty impossible to make any boot completely waterproof but they'll be quite water resistant as they are without any conditioner/wax.

Also, check out r/goodyearwelt.

It's a pretty casual belt, in that it's very thick and hearty. Works great with streetwear/workwear, probably not as well if you're dressing up.

I have it in Sunset Brown and it matches my Amber Iron Rangers perfectly. They go together like they were made for each other. I'm now buying the Natural leather to match better with my Hawthorne Iron Rangers. Yes I own two pairs of IRs because I'm a crazy person.

I think the belt will look great with sperry's.

It kinda depends on the rest of your style - what does a typical outfit look like for you?

Clark Desert Boots or another pair of chukkas might be a good start - they can fit well into most any casual outfit.

Vans Authentics, Jack Purcells, or Chuck Taylors are also good starter shoes and are usually good quality for the price - you can probably find better sales on other sites. This may be better if you dress more like a typical college student. I'd avoid the bright/loud colors for fall shoes.

Those are just wide suggestions based on knowing nothing about you. Examples of your usual style would help.

A repost at the advice of a friendly member of the community - I just nabbed a pair of Oak Street Bootmakers Brown Trench Boots and Natural Cap-Toe Trench Boots for a total of $326, tax included. I'm a little floored at that deal. These will be my first really nice boots, after a pair of Tan Rodeo Chippewa Apaches and a pair of Cherry Red 1460 Doc Martens (I got them for around $10 at Urban Outfitters... I couldn't say no, now they're my rain boots!) I have a couple questions regarding my most recent purchase...

1. Given that they're practically the same boot, does it make sense for me to keep both? I expect that the natural boot would darken as it ages, bringing them closer in color, and a cap toe isn't quite enough a difference to justify having both.
   
   
2. Would either or both of the boots be appropriate for business or business casual attire? The leather soles seem to lean towards a more formal boot, but the laces and metal eyelets say otherwise. I'm graduating from college soon so I'd like to have a rotation of nicer footwear for work and this seems like a great start in addition to my Apolis Officer Shoes, but I also don't want to blast a whole bunch of money if I don't need to. Does it make sense to consider these an investment?
   
   (would swapping in waxed round laces bring them up a notch? I think the contrast of a darker lace on the natural ones would help them out, too.)

awesome, those shoes arent really my style either, just sort of a safe, classic look at a low price. Honestly both those shoes you linked look pretty cheap and awful. How do you feel about these Allen Edmonds? Much higher quality, very classy, great dress shoes, and can even be dressed down.


Are you looking for casual shoes, work shoes, dress shoes, or a combination? another mainstay classic are the Clarks Desert Boots, a great shoe for at the office or at the bar with your friends.

I'm not a fan, personally. They're not most flattering and if you're just going to have one pair (I'd recommend having two biz cas shoes if one at least one is leather to give them a day to breath), I'd go with brown because I think its a little more versatile.

This guide is pretty helpful and has some links to further guides. But hard to go wrong with some oxfords, derbies, chukkas (the meme itself, Clark's Desert Boot in beeswax is your budget option), loafers, etc.

A lot of people will recommend getting some Allen Edmonds and similarly priced and they're not wrong. They're beautiful shoes that'll last you for years. If you can swing it, I would. But if you're not prepared for the investment and want something cheap, the Stafford shoes at JCP really aren't bad at all for the money. Here and here if you want boots. And they're on sale. But thats on a budget and they will crease, so use shoes trees after use.

Explore some of the styles I mentioned and check the guide. Don't just pick what I like, ultimately you have to like it.

Also, if you can get away with it at work, some nice clean and minimal detailed sneakers can be worked into a biz casual, depending on how casual we're talking. Like Greats Royale. But only if you can get away with it. I would definitely still get some nicer shoes.

I don't think you dress all that poorly for a 19-year-old college student, for the record, but if you want to change your style to something (a) more mature and (b) that she will be impressed by, do the following:

Step 1: Go to J. Crew (probably J. Crew Factory, if there's one near you - similar stuff, and much cheaper)

Step 2: Buy 5 button-down shirts you like, 2 polo shirts, 1 pair of dark blue jeans (can also get this from Levi's, which might be preferable actually), 1 pair of Driggs pants (navy, brown, or dark green)

Step 3: Buy a nice pair of casual shoes. I've been getting a lot of compliments on these recently, and this is a great price for them (I paid 79 euros for them when I was travelling in Europe this summer, didn't know they had U.S. locations until I just checked). /r/MaleFashionAdvice has been recommending Clark's Desert Boots for a long time, and you can't go wrong with them either.

Yeah I don't want to spend more because honestly 90% of the day my shoes are under a desk. I just really like the comfort level of the Sketchers. When picking out shoes, I would wear crocs if they were the most comfortable things on earth, looks are a far 2nd place.

That being said, if given a choice I would want what looks best if they are all the same level of comfort.

So you are suggesting these pair of shoes/boots? I gotta be honest, they don't look very comfortable. (I have sissy feet mind you).

http://www.evanseasyspace.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Mast-Harbour-Men-Lavender-Marigold-Slim-Fit-Smart-Casual-Shirt_27a675a1a7e7136b1518097673ef32ec_images_1080_1440_mini.jpg

This seems to be the best that comes from the ill defined term "smart casual". My recommendation is a pair of chinos, leather shoes, and an OCBD. And if you feel underdressed maybe a light jacket. I'm guessing you're new to MFA based on your post so I'll post some links to get you on the right track:

• Blue OCBD: http://www.uniqlo.com/us/product/men-oxford-slim-fit-long-sleeve-shirt-088587.html#62|/men/tops/casual-shirts/oxford-slim/|
  
  
• Navy slim fit chinos: http://www.uniqlo.com/us/product/men-slim-fit-chino-flat-front-pants-128443.html#69|/men/bottoms/pants/slim-fit-chino/|
  
  
• Leather shoes can be either nice shoes or more casual ones. Here are some Clarks Desert Boots which are a bit more casual bit still look nice: http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Mens-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather/dp/B004DCNN64/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404568400&sr=8-1&keywords=bushacre
  
  
• Get a belt which matches the color of your shoes
  
  
• MOST importantly, make sure everything fits. You will look like shit regardless if youre wearing a $200 outfit or a $900 outfit if things do not fit well.
  
  
• Please check out the sidebar for a much more detailed overview of everything, including fit guides, color schemes, etc. Please do this. Welcome to MFA!

Well, I can only speak from personal experience, but Nike Janoskis are super comfotable sneakers.

If you're feeling like going full MFA uniform, then the Clarks Desert Boot is also a great versatile, comfy choice.

Finally, at the higher end, the Allen Edmonds Mcallister wingtip oxford in walnut calf is a surprisingly versatile shoe that will last a lifetime and look damn stylish doing it, so long as you take care of it. Once they're "broken in", AE shoes are incredibly comfortable.

I'm brutal on my clothing, too. A couple things to realize here:

• Pay more for your shoes.
  
  
• A $50 pair of shoes will last 6 months. A $100 pair of shoes will last 18 months. A $200 pair of shoes will last 5+ years.
  
  
• Don't pay for the name, though. Pay for the construction & materials: full grain leather, goodyear welt, etc.
  
  
• Also, don't pay full price. Wait for a sale (Nordstrom 40% off, or a factory seconds sale, etc).
  
  
  
• Take care of your shoes.
  
  
• You can extend the life of your shoes by alternating out every day or two. This gives the leather time to dry out (sweat, rain, etc) and rest.
  
  
• Use shoe trees.
  
  Some examples of shoes that will last you years:
  
  
• Loake 1880s
  
  
• Allen Edmonds
  
  
• Alden
  
  
• Florsheim's Goodyear sets
  
  etc...
  
  You might be able to get away with one of these, but they're newer companies and do skimp on some finishing/construction. They're definitely a couple steps up from DSW or Kohls, though.
  
  
• Beckett Simonon
  
  
• Johnston & Murphy
  
  I've got two pairs of Allen Edmonds that I've had for about 2 years now (Strands and Fifth Aves). I picked both sets up as factory seconds directly from their Charleston, SC, store (called in, very helpful folks). Prior to that, I'd wear out a pair of dress shoes in 6 months. These both still look VERY good. I just replaced the heel pad on both pairs ($5 for the rubber pads and $5 for a huge tube of Shoe Goo on Amazon).
  
  Edit: Allen Edmonds has factory seconds sales every couple of months. Nordstrom has a lot of the mentioned brands, and have sales on men's shoes every 6 months or so.
  
  In-Store and Online 2014 Sale Dates
  
  • Half-Yearly Sale for Women and Kids—starts Wednesday, May 21
  
  • Half-Yearly Sale for Men—starts Friday, June 13
  
  • Anniversary Sale—starts Friday, July 18 and ends Sunday, August 3
  
  • Half-Yearly Sale for Women and Kids—starts Wednesday, November 5
  
  • Half-Yearly Sale for Men—starts Thursday, December 25 online, and Friday, December 26 in-store
  
  Edit 2: This site has some very good suggestions for under $200.

Thorogood American Heritage: plain toe or moc toe? Pros and cons, versatility, etc.? I'm looking for a casual boot. I feel like the plain toe has a "work boot" feel to it and I like the "character" that the moc toe brings, but I'd like to have other people's opinion. Here's some pics I found:

• Moc toe: http://imgur.com/a/zxsGH, http://imgur.com/a/ZXMAy
  
  
• Plain toe: http://imgur.com/a/uZzkG#qn39H, http://imgur.com/a/2bk0M/#c49W1
  
  Also, if someone could help me with the sizing, that'd be great! I've searched a bit (a lot, actually), and it's either half a size or a full size down from TTS. I'm a 9.5 in Vans, so I thought I'd get a 9.0D, but I want to make sure I get the right size.

Had to be my boots. Nothing special, just Chippewa Apache's, but they really work with the Americana workwear style I've been moving towards. I especially like how they look with my red laces.

This year I made a big shift in my wardrobe. I had been dressing pretty well, but this year I made an effort to decide what "my style" is, and to really make sure my wardrobe matched with that. I settled on an Americana Workwear look, that I think matches well with how people dress in central PA, where I live. I used to feel out of place, like I was dressed a little bit too New England-y.

These are a little different from everything else you've posted, but with what you're looking for I think they'd be perfect. I'd go with the Red Wing Work Chukka. Not quite boots, not quite shoes, so no cuffs necessary. They don't have leather soles like Iron Rangers or Wolverine 1ks, so you don't have to worry too much about banging them up while working (Iron Rangers and 1ks are well made, but aren't made to be abused like other boots are). You can also wear them with virtually anything casual and they'll look awesome.

I'm about to become a grad student, and I joined MFA wanting to up my style quotient accordingly. I've gradually become interested in style over the last few years, perhaps partially as an outlet for the visual sense I developed through art and graphic design as a kid (I've since gotten interested in music and writing instead as creative outlets). I can also see that some of my interest in style has come from feeling insecure at various times and wanting to control and shape the way others see me. I've also undergone several shifts in personal identity and outlook that have provoked me to dress differently over these few years.

Right now I'm getting ready for a year of studying abroad (a philosophy masters program in Belgium) and I've been using MFA to get a sense of the possibilities that there are for personal style. Some of this amounts to just being aware of various products and brands. I think I first got clued into Bonobos on here; per MFA's influence, I bought my first pair of Allen Edmonds recently (then resold them since they didn't fit); I purchased my first MTM shirt (which I recently posted to MFA asking about the fit of) through seeing what difference a good fit can make in photos people post to MFA. Right now, I'm trying to budget so that I can get both a pair of brown Red Wings and a pair of APC jeans before I leave for a year abroad so that I can wear them both pretty much every day. I think I may need to save for living expenses instead, though. One thing MFA has helped to teach me is how to plan a wardrobe in advance (know what kinds of pieces to be on the lookout for) and to not only get a good price, but also to get the right item at the right time.

If I were to receive the coupon, I'd like to think I could justify the expense of the Light Gray Three Piece Suit or the Classic Navy Blue Suit for job interviews and class presentations in the coming year. It'll be more practical, though, for me to get the Partner Pink Pinpoint Oxford and a silver tie clip as staples to work into and enhance the wardrobe I already have. Thanks for doing this awesome contest, veroz!

Thanks. I may buy those foreman chukkas. The other were very interesting, but not quite what I want for everyday use. I wanted to ask you about this though: https://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Heritage-Work-Chukka/dp/B0032UYMEU. They seem like they may be built more for comfort. The issue though about this and the foreman is that the soles look like they may be super slippery.

You could take a look at these Timberland Earthkeepers. They're waterproof, and will suit you for how long you'll be out.

I definitely agree with /u/riley212 though, in that most places will have clear sidewalks and it shouldn't be that much of an issue. The Chippewa Apaches that were mentioned also look pretty good.

As far as socks, smartwool is good, Kirkland Wool Trail socks will do you if you want cost effective.

Posted this the other day -

Looking to buy my first pair of boots and want something that I can wear this Fall but will also hold up well in a Colorado winter. Want to wear it everyday in winter and most days in the fall. I looked at the boot buying guide and like the Chippewa Apache Lace-up Boot. Is this a good winter boot? What color should I get that work best? brown or black? Dark brown or light? I wear a size 12US in Nike running shoes and I tried on some CDB and the 10.5 was the most comfortable. What size should I get? I'm a little nervous that I will buy a size too small or have wider feet than I thought and the boot being too narrow. Is this a good place to post this or should I just make my own post?
Link: https://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-20080-M-Apache-Lace-Up-Boot/dp/B004TK2RPS

Someone said it was weird to go down 1 size and half and not just size and recommended I get sized up.

Went and used the brannock thing·a·ma·jig and it seems I am in fact a 10.5? I don' know how to read the side part if I'm wide or not, can anyone tell me?

http://imgur.com/a/cQnY8

I own a pair of thorogood plain toe that have stood up wonderfully throughout winter and a year of work in a receiving area.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001QJ4I5C/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1506560471&sr=8-3&pi=AC_UL420_SR280%2C420_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Thorogood%2Bboots&th=1&psc=1

They are just a bit slick in snow if that is an issue.

Chippewa are also recommend budget boots. They also go on STEEP discount when on sale. So track that or look on black friday for an Amazon shoe sale.

BUT, I also have a pair of red wing heritage and a pair of Wolverines. The difference in workmanship is definitley noticeable. And the good wear welt means replaceable sole.

Sierra trading post has great deals on 2nds, and the jump in price is not significant compared to a good pair of "budget" boots. I got my red wing heritage for a bit under 200. Usually not much more than a small scuff or random marking.

https://www.sierratradingpost.com/s~red-wing/

You just can't be cheap and want bifl... Unless you find used.

If you still want to find a good solid pair of shoes that are in between causal and formal, as with most people on MFA, I would recommend the Clarks Desert Boot in Beeswax.

They're recommended here so much because pretty they're not terribly expensive, can go with almost anything, and can be dressed down for a casual night with friends or up for your first date with that girl from accounting.

However, they're only good for the Spring/Summer/Fall months because they have no insulation to keep warm from the cold and the soles are slippery when wet.

Truth.

My gf bought me these tan Chippewa boots for $89.99 shipped about 3 days ago. Theyre seconds but I'll be using them for work as they tend to look better with the shit beaten out of them.

I managed to get them at $70 from Amazon, but I think I got pretty luck if you take a look at camel^3. I'd pull the trigger at that price though because who knows how long you'll have to wait. They're wonderful shoes and paying +-$10 is worth it.

I got these Thorogood boots last year and I've really enjoyed them. I also made a post and put up an album when I first went through and put mink oil on them.

If you'd like, I can throw up a picture of them after a year of pretty heavy wear. I've really enjoyed having them and they're great "beginner" boots.

I feel like an asshole recommending these because it's become such an MFA cliche but Clark's Desert Boots are a pretty good transition from sneakers to shoes. They're casual but can be slightly dressed up when need be. I don't find them anywhere near as comfortable as sneakers but you could put some insoles in them. From how you described your wardrobe though any kind of dress/work boot (Red Wings Heritage, Wolverine 1000 mile, LL Bean Khatadin, Chippewas, Alden Indys) would go with what you normally wear. Those are just more pricey than Desert Boots. If you haven't already, check out the boot guide on the sidebar.

New boots came in! They're Chippewa Apaches in 9.5 with a coat of Obernaufs. Desperately trying to break them in while sick from home (walking out for groceries in them later, we'll see how that is). Fairly deep lug sole, the standard Chippewa 6" should look a lot less rugged in comparison but I appreciate the height boost this gives me. Yes, I'm standing on my coffee table to get the fit pic. I'll try to make a more detailed review of this in a post when I Have time.

Rest of the outfit is pretty standard, Levi's Rigids (just a week in and already getting slight fades), band tee covered up by black/navy Uniqlo fleece from last year.

Sweet man, Twin Cities?

I have Iron Rangers with lugged soles similar to the Brooks Brothers version, but the new Iron Rangers in Oxblood have a half-sole that would probably work well too if you want the style. Other "MFA-Approved" Red Wings would be the Moc Toe and the Beckman.

Out of those three I would recommend the Beckmans because their soles are the most useful unless you're willing to shell out the money for the Brooks Brother's Iron Rangers. I got lucky with mine and bought a pair of Iron Rangers with custom lugged sole off Grailed for about $200.

Oh man, MFA is almost information overload, but thanks for pointing me there.

Jackets, I like Filson's Mackinaw Cruiser, Tin Cruiser, and Packer. I think I might just have to bite the bullet and pay for the quality. I know my Grandfather has had one of the Mackinaws for close to 60 years now and it is still in heavy use. I really like the Packer, but it would need a wool insert to be warm enough I think.

For Shoes, I like this from Red Wing, but it is pricey.

No problem. I saw you replied to the other guy that you were from Northwestern, me too! I'm gonna be a junior in Weinberg. go cats.

Although I don't know exactly what socks you're talking about, I have heard of Darn Tough, and yep, that's the kind of sock I mean. I'm talking about wool hiking socks that you get from REI or another outdoor store. I got a nice thick pair of REI brand wool socks for 7 bucks last year, and they've been no worse for wear since then.

About the boots, I can't give you any personal recommendations, as I've been using a cheap off-brand boot for the past two winters (before I got into fashion) and am in the market for some Red Wing Beckmans or maybe one of Chippewa's new service boots. Another cheaper option that people suggest here is Chippewa's Apache boot, because the price sometimes drops below $100 on Amazon, if you use their coupon. Again, I do not own any of these boots myself, I'm shopping for them as well, so I suggest you look into it some more. Make sure you also learn to take care of your leather boots, that can really help stretch your money.

Worst months are definitely January/February. Usually when I go home for winter break it's only in the 30s or 40s in Chicago, and then I come back in the new year and the temps are in the teens. Yep, the fall months are pretty nice, they start getting down to 60s and 50s but that's pretty much sweater weather. So, you definitely have a lot of time before having to make any of these purchases.

Let me know if you have more questions!

Yeah man definitely. I think the Thorogood Moc Toe is your best alternative to RW at your price. I personally have the 8" version but these are honestly your best bet. There are some different color options too.

My suggestions from time spent on here:

1. Get him some Levi's 514 jeans. These are the best fitting jeans for non-super skinny people and they look awesome.
   
   
2. Buy him some shirts at Zara. The pants are too skinny for my legs but the shirts are a nice cut and run ~$60.
   
   
3. Finally, though they are simple, I love my Clark's Desert Boots. I bought them recently and couldn't be happier with my purchase.
   
   These three things all work as birthday gifts, they're all returnable, and they all look good on most guys. Check them out and let me know if you decide to go with any of them.

I usually recommend these Thorogoods for workboots in that price range. I have a pair and they are very comfortable despite being a little heavy. Also the plain toe version, which is a few bucks cheaper. I don't know if you can get them in Norway though.

You might have luck finding a pair of used red wings in good condition for around $150. Check the FMF weekly thread and ebay. Make sure you get something with a wedge or other thick sole. I like the vibram christy soles myself (same ones on the thorogood boots above).

Went from Timberlands to Chipewa's to Redwings and then landed on Thorogoods.

I love my Thorogoods. Easy break-in, longer lasting soles and look just as good as my Redwings. Still made in America. All at $100 cheaper. Easily my go to work boot now.

https://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-814-4200-Moc-Toe-Boot/dp/B001QJ4I5C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494384706&sr=8-1&keywords=thorogood+boots

They have safety toe versions too:
https://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-American-Heritage-804-4200-Steel-Toe/dp/B00566F76U/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1494384706&sr=8-10&keywords=thorogood+boots

I would go with these guys, they tend to hold up in weather a bit better than Red Wings (Vibram grippy sole): http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-20080-M-Apache-Lace-Up-Boot/dp/B004TK2RPS

There are a few Amazon codes floating around on the search for them as well: http://www.reddit.com/r/frugalmalefashion/search?q=chippewa&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all

I like mine a lot (Columbus winters, lots of ice), but the break in process is pretty painful, but they're very nice boots. Eventually I'll sno-seal them as well. I wear a 13 in Converse/other true to size shoes, but wear a 12 in these.

I got these Thorogoods a couple weeks ago. I'm LOVING them. Really really nice boots. And do yourself a favor and get some mink oil with whatever you end up buying. That stuff is amazing for leather.

What kind of use are you looking for? Work boots, or Red Wing-style heritage boots?

For the latter best gyw options in your price probably are these three (if you know your size and are OK with ordering online):

• Chippewa: wait for a sale
  
• Thorogood Moc Toe
  
• Thorogood Plain Toe
  
  All ship free to SG via Amazon Global, unless your size is out of stock.
  
  Anyway GYW-type resoling in Singapore costs around $150 at Ed Et Al, so I'm not really sure $200 boots are worth resoling. If you get wedge soled boots like either of the Thorogoods Shukey can probably glue a new wedge sole on for less

I got a pair of Clarks Desert Boots in Beeswax leather for $62.20 (with the Amazon shoe promotion) last week.

They're my first pair of CDBs, and I'm pretty impressed. Comfortable, simple design, and they look great.

What kind of shoes do you like? What's your budget?

Just some general suggestions:

Desert Boots - Standard "r/MFA uniform" boots. But they are very classy looking, I get compliments for mine all the time. They are very comfortable to walk in and are usable most seasons of the year (but not too great in loads of water).

Plimsolls - Come in loads of colors, help tie together your outfit/make a personal bit of flair. Very clean, very simple. Loads of people love them.

Boat shoes - Personally don't understand them but people seem to love them. They're more of a spring/summer shoe, IMO though. Just remember, no socks or no-show-socks.

In terms of boots: get a pair of Clark's Desert Boots.

Clarks Desert Boots are best in Beeswax for Leather, and Sand Suede for suede. They are the boots' most versatile color. Also, be sure to size down 1/2 a size from your regular shoe size.


What I'd recommend is something different: get multiple colors. ALL the colors of the rainbow so you never don't have a good time to wear a pair of Clarks Desert Boots.

Finally: if you aren't on a computer browsing reddit, get on one. When you come to /r/malefashionadvice you'll notice the sidebar on the right that is FILLED with all the knowledge to start you off on your adventure to look better. There's a section on How clothes should fit. There's one on Matching colors, and there's even one on how to build a basic wardrobe. That's just to get you started, now go on and learn! Learn until you cannot learn anymore!

Clark's Desert Boots. They may not look like much by themselves on those pictures, but if you try them on they look awesome. They work well with casual clothing and can be worked into more formal clothing. They're not too formal, nor too casual.

Try searching Google Images for "desert boots wearing" for pictures of men wearing them, so that you know how they look.

If you google "chukka boot" or "desert boot" you may find cheaper. Urban Outfitters have them. If you ebay it, you may find even cheaper -- and, depending on what you choose, better quality, after a repair.

Let's take a look at shoe prices. I'll take the top hit in each category, and use the default By Relevance sort. I prevent Amazon from keeping any state, so aside from geo-locating my IP (which would likely drive up pricing, not down), so any purchase history should not bias price.

• Women, Flats: Madden Girl Women's Shopperr Ballet Flat: $39.95-$49.99
  
  
• Women, Sandals: Madden Girl Women's Kain Wedge Sandal: $38.05-$49.95
  
  
• Women, Pumps: Betsey Johnson Women's Leela Platform Pump: $89.95 - $89.99 (almost into your range!)
  
  
• Women, Fashion Sneakers: Steve Madden Women's The Blonde Salad Tnyc Fashion Sneaker: $139.95: over your range, fair enough.
  
  
• Women, Loafers & Slip-Ons TOMS Women's Canvas Slip-On: $22.54 - $999.0 (the high price is an error)
  
  
• Women, Athletic: ASICS Men's Gel-Contend D Running Shoe: $28.98 - $64.35 (I assume that this shoe is listed as unigender for it to show up in the women's section as well).
  
  
• Women's, Work & Safety: Skechers for Work Women's Stedman Slip-Resistant Work Shoe: $64.95
  
  
• Women's, Boots: Nature Breeze Women's Vickie Hi Faux Suede Boot: $12.53 - $59.99
  
  
• Women's, Outdoor: New Balance Women's WT510 Trail Running Shoe: $42.99 - $64.99
  
  
• Women's, Mules & Clogs: Crocs Unisex Classic Clog: $15.25 - $49.95
  
  
• Women's, Oxfords: Ollio Women's Shoe Classics Lace Up Dress Low Flat Heel Multi Colored Oxford: $16.99
  
  
• Women's, Slippers: Bobs from Skechers Women's Keepsakes - Puffers Slipper: $31.89 - $73.53
  
  
• Men's, Loafers & Slip-Ons: Skechers for Work Men's Cottonwood Fribble Slip-Resistant Work Shoe: $69.95
  
  
• Men's, Work & Safety: Skechers for Work Men's Cottonwood Fribble Slip-Resistant Work Shoe: $69.95 (same item as above; might be popular and show up in two categories...)
  
  
• Men's, Fashion Sneakers: Levi's Men's Jordy Energy Fashion Sneaker: $37.95 - $39.99
  
  
• Men's, Atheletic: HUF Men's Sutter Skate Shoe: $59.99-$60.00
  
  
• Men's, Oxford: Levis Men's Mitch Oxford: $44.99-$50.00
  
  
• Men's, Sandals: John Varvatos Men's Tobago Stitched Thong Flip-Flop: $148.00 (all right, another one not only in but above the price range)
  
  
• Men's Boots: Clarks Originals Men's Desert Boot: $54.50-$148.50 (the options seem to mostly yield $79, but I'll grant that there's a combination of size and style that could get it up into and above your range.
  
  
• Men's, Outdoor: Polo Ralph Lauren Men's Faxon Low Sneaker: $30.68-$79.95
  
  
• Men's, Mules & Clogs: crocs Men's Santa Cruz Slip-On $30.91-$99.99. While these mostly seem to be ~$53, there is a combination of size and style somewhere that would boost this into the low end of your range.
  
  
• Men's, Slippers: Mens Fleece Lined Slippers: $5.99
  
  You can draw brackets where you want, but unless you're simply defining what most people wear to be low-end and hence not "normal", I don't think that $90-$120 provides a very good picture.

I can attest to the Thorogoods. I've got these and they're great. Nice quality leather, made in USA, easy break in, and they clean up well. I've got a coat of Obenaulf's on them and they darken a little.

Is there a reason you have to buy them from that website?

CDBs are ~$90 on Amazon.

But yeah, those are the right shoe. They're super clean like that for a good three days until you beat them up a little.

edit: .au Don't hire me as a detective.

The desert boots recommendation is great. I've got a pair that I get a hell of a lot of use out of.

A suggestion: go for the "Originals" Desert Boot, as opposed to the Bushacre. The higher quality and increased comfort of the Originals is well worth the price difference. Sometimes, you can even find them closer in price.

The Amazon price on the Originals is all over the place, ranging from $70 to $130 (source).

Either way, I find the "Beeswax" color option to be highly versatile and easy to care for.

5 years alternating between upstate new york and new york city so lots and lots of snow. I might suggest the utility version if you see really heavy snow. My one problem with the boots is that I wore the sole down somewhat and the traction is now lacking. They are waterproof, but they aren't super warm seeing as it's just leather and no insulation. But that's pretty normal for work boots, even the more expensive kind. I recommend you wear them with wool socks if it gets really cold.

Note: They're also more brown than these pictures make them look. They look like this irl. EDIT: That picture is actually of the katadihn engineers boots by ll bean but I'm pretty sure it's literally the same boot + a toe box and it's also manufactured by chippewa.

Not sneakers, but I think these are best:
https://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-American-Heritage-MAXwear-Safety/dp/B00623DYVQ
Edit, just read light. These aren't light, but they're great boots

This is basically a standard first date uniform for me

OCDB with a button down collar: $69.50

[Indigo Jeans] (http://www.uniqlo.com/us/CPaGoods/itemcode=070929): $89.90

Beeswax CDB's: ~$75

[Grey blazer] (http://www.hm.com/us/product/02190?article=02190-A): $149

Interesting Socks: $14.50


Is around $400 (This might make it a little more casual and bring the price point down $20). It works with almost any occasion except for an extremely active date, where you'll be running around doing cute things... just feel confident that you look good.

Check out Thorogood boots. They are good quality, VERY comfortable, and basically designed for workers who are on their feet all day long. They are made in the USA, have been around a long time, and people generally have great things to say about them. They have steel toed options as well:

https://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-American-Heritage-804-4200-Steel-Toe/dp/B00623DYVQ

To add to that as well, these are equivalent to Chippewa's more "luxury" level line-up of service boots which make use of better materials than their entry level Apaches, which themselves are great boots and can often not be found for much cheaper than $120.

To summarize, this is a good deal.

Also, great username.

like common_sense_ffs said, they're desert/chukka boots. They're versatile, often durable, and really basic. They work with a smart casual style (definitely not rugged) and they're one of the most recommended types of shoes for beginners here on MFA. You can get pretty good ones for under $100 from Clarks or L.L. Bean.

2 Lands End OCBDs (One white, one Blue ~$40 each (on sale) $80

2 Lands End Gingham or Plaid shirts ~$40 each ~$80

2 Lands End Tailored Fit Chinos (1 in light beige, one in khaki ~$40/each (on sale)) ~$80

1 pair Clarks Desert Boots in Beeswax ~$70

1 Navy Surplus Pea coat ~$40 at a Navy Surplus store

3 crew-neck Sweaters (different colors @ ~$50/each) ~$150

Levis 514s, dark wash or raw ~$50

LL Bean blutcher moc (not as ubiquitous as Sperry's) ~$70

Bean boots (For winter or snow) ~$90

Timex Easy Reader ~$25

Allen Edmonds Park Ave. (in brown) ~$200

That leaves you $75. Go to Target and buy plain short and long sleeve tee's from the Merona line and a few pairs of nice Merona socks.

That will be a very simple wardrobe that can be dressed up or down and should cover all of the basics that a 20 year old needs. The next pickups will be a blazer, more shirts, and more sweaters for variety. Remember that fit is everything; if you are slim, get the LE tailored fit, or take them to a tailor.

I've been wanting a nice, comfortable shoe. I've been on the fence between going cheap[er] with CDBs, because I've heard a lot of good things about their comfort, and these AE Strands. Any chance you can comment further on the comfort of the Strands (or even CDBs if you've worn them)?

This is a little bit more at $100 for the all black ones but they're everything you asked for. Oil and slip resistant, and good quality leather construction so they'll last. I bought them myself and they're great, I also have another pair of thorogoods that are holding up well after over a year.

http://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-814-4200-Moc-Toe-Boot/dp/B001QJ4I5C/ref=sr_1_1?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1420758437&sr=1-1&keywords=thorogood+boots+moc+toe

Check out the Chippewa GQs. I have the LL Bean version and they're great boots.

My style leans a little more workwear, so this may not be entirely what you're looking for. But, I'm losing weight and all about cheap clothes right now. Sign up for STP's mailing list so you get their (frequent) coupons. They sell a lot of Carhartt stuff -- the straight fit pants, especially in canvas or twill, work pretty well with boots and casual button downs. Tons of other stuff that would probably work is available there as well. I

Not exactly them, but pretty damn close--just swap laces:

Robert Wayne Desert Blake Boot in grey suede, or, Clarks Original Desert Boot in distressed grey. I have a pair of Robert Waynes and they are incredibly comfortable, purchased at a retailer in the mall for $25 USD, on sale. Incredible value.

or search 'Desert Boot' in grey.

gl!

I was looking into buying some Iron Rangers. I can get Copper ones for cheaper than on Amazon at a store nearby, but I think they only have Copper. I can't decide if I want Copper or Amber - the copper pair I tried on looks lighter than it does on Amazon, and I'd like a darker boot since I don't have dark brown shoes. Does anyone know how the Coppers looks like after some wear and tear and care (e.g. the red wing leather dressing)?

Dude - While I was wearing that outfit I walked into a DSW and thought, "man, I need some nicer boots to go with this." So I picked up these. They were ~$40 and I'll probably get $40 of use out of them, but I think I'll spring for these when I'm ready to spend a little more. Maybe next fall? I'm really like the lighter colors on both of those pairs, but I'm digging the suede on the ones I got.

If I blurred out my face, how would people tell me all the celebrities I apparently look like?

Obligatory Clarks Desert Boots. or Stinson His. Both are great, versatile, and comfy as hell. I'd also say look at some nice boat shoes like this or this. If you really want a great pair, also look at Allen Edmonds Shoe Bank for a great deal on 2nd quality. the prices are higher, but you could find a pair in the low 100's on a good enough sale. I really recommend their penny loafers, as they can be worn casually or dressed up.

Most good boots are in a higher price range. Thorogood makes high quality boots for that price. They have moc-toe and plain-toe. The price range fluctuates online. If those don't work try Bexley or Golden Fox. Not sure how Golden Fox holds up construction wise or how comfortable they are. You're going to have a break in period on most boots so I wouldn't expect them to be comfortable right away.

You're going to want to avoid shoes with large, unnecessary branding like those Ralph Lauren ones.

Also, sneakers are next to useless when dealing with lots of rain and snow. You're going to want some boots. LL Bean Boots are a classic option and highly effective against lots of rain. A work boot like Red Wing Iron Rangers are also often recommended because they look nice, are very sturdy, and can be somewhat weatherproofed with sno-seal or an equivalent.

Basically, don't get those shoes. Get some boots with minimal branding. It's your best choice for the weather.

Also, boot guide

I have a pair of Chippewa Apaches that are great all-purpose boots. I wear them in rain and snow; they're a bit heavy for hiking but they're great if you need adventure-proof boots. I clean mine with saddle soap and condition with coconut oil and I anticipate them lasting a long time. I've had mine for a year and a half.

I'm not a fan but people do often recommend bean boots. You can also buy something like Red Wings moc toe boot or something similar and apply waterproofing product like sno-seal or Obenaufs to it. I did mine over a year ago and its still good, though I only really wear it during bad winter days, so your mileage may vary, but a jar is good for several applications. Also note that they will darken the leather.

Dr Martens are a very specific kind of boot with a very unique look. Due to both look and cultural association, they're best left to punks, skins and the like. Skinheads wearing docs is definitely cool. Wearing a pair for the sole and trying to pass it off as a regular boot is not. I had a 5'4" teacher do it in high school. Nobody cared about his height, everyone cared about his shoes.

If you want a proper combat boot, check out these Corcoran Jump Boots instead. If you're not really after the combat boot look, go for a pair of Wolverine 1000 Miles, Red Wing Iron Rangers, Red Wing Beckman or the equivalent Chippewa boot.

• Johnston & Murphy Meltons - $175 (available in 9, 9E, 9EEE)
  
• Charles Tyrwhitt Clarence - $200 (available in 9D, 9EEE)
  
  Keep in mind different lasts fit differently, so you may need to go up a size and down a width to get a better fit.
  
  Also, you're seeing finer leathers and craftsmanship from GYW/handsewn shoes, hence the price increases. Not to mention the overall costs of manufacturing are rising as well as the popularity of GYW footwear.

I would stay away from Puma boots. Especially since many of those look like high tops. Here are some of MFA's favorites:

L.L. Bean Katahdin Iron Works Engineer Boots

Chippewa 6" "GQ" Boot

Red Wing Heritage Beckman

Alden Indy Boot

And of course Clark's Originals Desert Boots

Take a look at these. It's guaranteed that they'll look better initially, with age, and that you'll be able to wear them much longer.

Here you go

They're awesome boots, highly recommend. If you haven't done it before, there's a way to sign up for Amazon shoe thingy and get like 15% off your first purchase. I'm sure someone else knows more about this.

I am :) I dont own a pair but i hear on their own they are fairly comfortable and they fit they way you dress fairly well try these ones in beeswax

Looking for feedback to compare the LL Bean katahdin plain toe with the Red Wing Beckmon.

I have a pair of Iron rangers and a pair of the LL Bean katahdin cap toe boots so I'm familiar with each. Basically what I'm looking for is a both that can take some snow, slush, rain and still be dressed up enough to wear in a more business casual environment.

I actually prefer the fit of the katahdins to the red wings but am concerned that they will be too casual for my needs.

Other boot recommendations are also welcome.

Thanks.

Would mink oil also be a good fit for the type of leather used on the Clarks Bushacre 2 in beeswax? If so, would it make them a darker brown? I love the boots, but I do wish they were just a tiny bit darker.

I'm sure you're familiar with them, but here are the exact ones just in case.

• Groom's dark denim
  
• Groom's boots
  
• Bridal robe
  
• Fake flower pedals
  
• Hand made flower girl baskets
  
• Paper + Envelopes for invites
  
• Simple ivory garter
  
• Dress belt
  
• Custom purple lace shoes
  
• Heart cut-outs for table decor
  
• Custom undies
  
• Dress swatch (ugh, white balance!)
  
• Hair piece
  
• Clutches for bridesmaids
  
• DIY Sparkly Lighters (2 more, not pictured)
  
• Necklaces for the moms
  
• Ties for the dads
  
  Edited for links to various Etsy shops, etc. :)

These are highly recommend as a starter boot around here. The circlejerk is strong but they are a quality boot so many people like them: http://www.clarksusa.com/eng/product/desert_boot_men/26078358. There is a Clarks store near you at:

Clarks
7875 Montgomery Rd
Kenwood Towne Centre
Cincinnati, OH 45236
Phone: (513) 791-0548

These are cheaper on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Boot/dp/B0007MCUTK) however if you have Amazon Prime you can get them shipped 1 or 2 day. Amazon is also running a 20% off coupon if you sign up for their fashion newsletter which brings the price even lower. Size down 1/2-1 size of what you normally wear. I am a 10.5 but I bought my clarks in a 9.5

On the cheaper end, you can get this same style at Target for around $50. They are called the Estes boot if I remember correctly. It's called a chukka. You get what you pay for though as these won't last long. http://www.target.com/p/men-s-merona-estes-genuine-leather-chukka-boot-brown/-/A-14238857

These are also options from Amazon for around what the Clarks would be: http://www.amazon.com/Eastland-Mens-Fidelity-Lace-Up-Black/dp/B003CIPSD6/ref=sr_1_1?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1393961365&sr=1-1&keywords=eastland+high+fidelity

or

http://www.amazon.com/Chippewa-20065-Handcrafted-Lace-Up-Chocolate/dp/B0036VN8OU/ref=sr_1_3?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1393961365&sr=1-3&keywords=eastland+high+fidelity


Just remember to use that Amazon code if you order any of these from there. The 20% works on anything clothing or shoe item

I like these, considering they can be dressed up some, although they're slightly out of budget. Check out nordstrom rack, look for brands like Allen Edmonds, Loake, and Redwing.

More casual, you would look at the L.L. Bean Katahdin, which is made by chippewa. It's also slightly out of budget. The key is that the boots I've linked are all stitched construction. Instead of the sole being glued on, they're stitched instead. While they can be resoled easier, the main selling point is the fact that they won't fall apart in less than a year.

Edit: I wore these in highschool and they served me well. Not everyone's cup of tea, though.

Well you can still get the 6 inch moc toes for [much lower price] (https://smile.amazon.com/Thorogood-814-4200-Moc-Toe-Boot/dp/B001QJ4I5C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469193129&sr=8-1&keywords=thorogood+american+heritage). As for my personal thoughts - I've had them for more than two years and love them. Break-in period is virtually non-existent and they go really well with jeans. They really are a great entry level GYW.
edit: grammar

These honestly don't look terrible, but there are the oft-recommended and definitely good looking Chippewa Apaches on Amazon for not much more

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PANTS


Express Grey slacks 32x32

Condition 9/10 I gave it a 9/10 due to several wearings. There are no markings or stains on the pants.

Price: $25 $20

Levi 511 Slim Fit Jeans Rinsed Playa 32x29

Condition: NWT

Price $30

Levi 508 Taper Jeans Rigid Envy 32x30

Condition: NWT

Price: $33


SUITS

J. Ferrar Suit jacket Size 38R

Condition 10/10 Worn once to a function, pristine condition in suit cover.

Price: $50

J.Ferrar Suit Pants 34x30

Condition: 10/10 Worn once, matching suit pants with the jacket.

Price: $30

J.crew NAVY LUDLOW SUIT JACKET WITH DOUBLE VENT IN ITALIAN CHINO Size 34S

Condition: Never worn, New with tag. Same jacket in link, but in NAVY.

Price $160

J.crew NAVY LUDLOW SUIT JACKET WITH DOUBLE VENT IN ITALIAN CHINO Size 36R

Condition: Never worn, New with tag. Same jacket in link, but in NAVY.

Price $160


JACKET/OUTERWEAR

Bonobos Chino Blazer Size S

Condition: 10/10 Never worn, got it as a gift I have a 37" chest, and it fits a bit loose on me.


Bonobos The Nottingham Blazer - Grey Herringbone

Condition : 10/10 Never worn


[Express Military jacket w/ built in hood Size L] (http://imgur.com/a/Ujwp5)

Condition 10/10 Worn once to a function, I was never educated about proper fitting, so I bought the wrong size and realized it was too big after it was too late to return it. It's a bit heavy, maybe because it's a size large and I'm a size Small. The color is Black.

Price: $70



Jos. A. Bank Signature Sweater Vest Size M

Condition: 10/10 Never worn, Fits true to size.

Price: $30 $15

Express black cardigan Size L

Condition 10/10 Worn twice, athletic fit Great fit if you are wear a size large

Price: $25 20

Express Black V-neck sweater Size L

Condition: 10/10 worn once, athletic fit Grat fit if you wear a size large

Price: $30 $25

Express black 1/4 zip Mock sweater Size L

Condition: 10/10 worn once, athletic fit Great fit if you wear a size large

Price: $40 $35

SHIRTS

Bonobos Vintage Wash Tee - Crewneck Pomegranate or Lavender S/M/L

Condition: NWT

Price: $7

Express Pique Polos
Red: XL
White:L
Yellow:L

The red polo was worn about 4 times, the rest were worn once.

Price: $10 for Red, $15 for White or yellow

SHOES

Clarks Desert boots Beeswax 8.5M and 9M

Condition: 9M worn once for about 20 minutes, while 8.5M is New in box.

Price: $60 for the 8.5, $55 for the 9M

[Keds Triump Chambray Size 10.5] (http://imgur.com/a/P8xgX)


Condition: Brand new with box, got it as a gift but it was the wrong size.

Oliberte. I've got a pair of Domos and they feel great and are definitely tough. And a bunch of them happen to be on sale right now on Gilt and Jackthreads. The styling might be an acquired taste, but I love mine.

And they're similar to the Mali in that they're pretty minimally lined and structured, as opposed to something like an Apache with a more defined shape.

Per the wonderful suggestion via /u/barshat, an itemized list.

Left to Right, Top to Bottom

Tops:

• Wings+Horns T-Shirt in Gray
  
• Wings+Horns T-Shirt in Charcoal
  
• Wings+Horns Henley Tee in White
  
• Wings+Horns Henley Long Sleeve in Navy
  
• Everlane Zip Hoodie Sweatshirt in Navy Marled
  
• Everlane Street Fleece Zip Hoodie in Heather Gray
  
• Marmot PreCip Jacket in Greenland
  
• Arc'teryx Squamish Hoodie in Silver Lining
  
• North Face Black Label Denali Jacket in Mountain Moss
  
• Naked and Famous Weird Guy Selvedge Chinos in Beige
  
• Naked and Famous Weird Guy Selvedge Chinos in Black
  
• Naked and Famous Weird Guy Stretch Selvedge in Indigo
  
• Nike Flyknit Racers Multicolor 2.0
  
• Converse x CDG Hightops
  
• Clarks Desert Boot in Beeswax
  
• Wings+Horns Leather Trainers in Black
  
• Common Projects x MR PORTER Achilles Low
  
• Adidas Ultra Boost in Tan
  
  And because the CDBs were so controversial, here's a version that will make you guys feel better.
  
  enjoy.
  

Yeah, you're going to want a cap toe or full cut oxford.

MFA's annual favorite from Allen Edmonds

budget option from a new company

Meermin, better than Allen Edmonds IMO. Takes a while to ship

Well established budget option from Johnston & Murphy

e-bay can be a treasure trove of lightly used and new shoes for very cheap.

their are plenty more options up and down the price scale. But these are some of the big popular ones.

Well those are one of the lower end ones outside the 1000 mile line. What you are really going to be missing out on is the Horoween leather found on the entire 1000 mile line. This would be a much better option IMO http://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-Moc-Toe-Boot-Gladiator/dp/B001QJ4I5C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1346377107&sr=8-3&keywords=thorogood+boots
Sizing for almost all boots is .5 - 1.5 sizes down. I usually buy 1 size down from somewhere with a good return policy and hope for the best.

Lose the shoes lose the shirt, wear a nice button down preferably something darker to go with the pants find a nice brown belt and some nice leather shoes or something more like this if you want to look extra cool I would prefer you wear a watch with a brown leather strap if you have one, also dont bring the smokes of you unless you KNOW she smokes, I have found girls that don't smoke find that unattractive. Good luck
Edit: Also I recommend you check out the sidebar

Yeah, I definitely understand where you're coming from. I just got out, haha.

They aren't as deep a copper, but the Golden Fox Moc Toe has been recommended often over on /r/frugalmalefashion. They run pretty big, so make sure to check into sizing advice. Eastland Lumber Up and Thorogoods are other options at a little bit higher of a price.

Does it snow/rain a lot in your area or is it just cold?

MFA has its own boot guide, look here

Popular boots on MFA are: RW IR, RW Beckman, My current winter boot is the RW 875, Thorogood Moc, Thorogood Plain, Chippewa GQ, Bean Boots.

All of these boots can be found in your price range through sales and coupon codes. All would be good for light snow except for the first and the Chippewa GQ. Bean boots are the best for heavy snow.

No problem, these are good questions. The mini-lug sole on the Red Wing Beckman boot is good for getting traction in wet, muddy/nasty conditions. It's rubber so it's okay to get wet without worrying about care after the fact. You can see it better in these pictures. Think of it like a lower-profile hiking boot sole.

The Wolverine 1000 Mile boots have a smooth leather sole. That type of sole is lower-profile and can be dressed up a bit more, whereas the Beckmans are marginally more casual. Leather soles don't do well in wet weather, and they don't offer a lot of traction. Some people have a rubber half-sole put on the front of the Wolverines to protect the leather; it should run around $30 at a cobbler. Alternatively, you can wear the leather soles until they wear through and have them resoled with rubber soles like on the Red Wings, or another rubber sole of your choice.

The white Vibram wedge rubber soles that come on some Red Wings is a great-looking option and very distinctive. It has traction that's better than the Wolverine but not as good as the Beckman. It also can get dirty really quickly, so if keeping the boots looking sharp is important, you might want to stay away from those light colored soles.

I live in Southern California, so I wear the Wolverine 1000 Mile boots often. It's dry here and so the leather sole is fine. I plan to have them replaced with Dainite soles when they need to be resoled.

Anyway, let me know if you have further questions. You can't go wrong with any of those three; it's just a matter of climate and aesthetics.

Remember not to wear your boots two days in a row, and always put shoe trees in them after you wear them. This will let them dry out from foot sweat and will GREATLY extend the life of your boots.

Chippewa is your best bet.

This or This, would be a great all weather boot, rubber sole, rounded toe, and highly durable.

Spend the extra $40, it will be worth the investment in the long run. Had mine about 2 years with F/W wear only.

Chippewa Apache has very good sole for snow walking (they are not magic spikes but they are miles better than cork soles or gasp leather soles. - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TK2RPS/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687522&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0036VN958&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1Z9V9J6J5Z2YVZ7VMQCA

Thorogood's are also viable options although I don't have personal experience with wedge soles but I have read online that they are good enough in terms of traction.

http://www.zappos.com/thorogood-6-soft-moc-toe-tobacco?zlfid=191&ref=pd_brand_page_t

I'm looking for a nice pair of boots for winter/fall. I've had my eye on the Red Wing Beckman in either cigar or I'm leaning towards black cherry featherstone. Any opinions on one color or the other? The other thing I'm wondering about is how well these boots would hold up in ice and slush (and snow, of course). I don't need something super warm but I want something with a bit of traction so I'm not slipping on ice like I imagine you would with Iron Rangers. I would really appreciate it if anyone could chime in.

Yeah there's your problem. You need a pair of Thorogood moc toes. Most good moc toe boot companies don't size down to you but Thorogood go down to 5 D. The first time you wear them it will feel like your wearing snow shoes, but that's a good thing. There's a lot of surface area on the sole. The lace hooks are great at releaving pressure points on the upper foot/calf. Getting use to them will take a little time but you'll be dancing on rebar in no time.

https://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-814-4200-Moc-Toe-Boot/dp/B001QJ69V8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1495912991&sr=8-3&keywords=wedge+work+boots

Dang. To be fair, the company closed down, so I'm not too surprised - they're essentially just selling the leftovers now.

To be honest, I just got into this fashion thing recently (2 months ago?) myself. I can't say I know too many others specifically like the Simple in that price range, but a google image search for "chukka" or "desert boot" yields a ton of examples.

I'd check /r/frugalmalefashion for sales - for example, the Lands End Jackson Chukka is a good cheap alternative to the now-famous (and MFA classic) Clark's Desert Boot. I just got a pair myself, and they're very solid for the price. Admittedly they're more on the formal side than the Simple shoes, but there are plenty of less fancy chukka options (Vans even makes a pair, but their sole is kinda ugly IMO).

Unfortunately, it looks like they're sold out of the Tan ones, but if you don't mind a dark brown (better for winter) look, they might have your size hanging around. Other good options are the current half-annual Nordstrom's sale, and the Anniversary Nordstrom sale which hits July 20.

I'd be patient and stay observant. Something always come along :).

Yeah, I'm not in love with those GBX shoes either. I really like these or these. For something that works equally well at work or afterwards, this is a good option. Or perhaps these if you're feeling adventurous?

EDIT: I forgot to mention these.

I would recommend a pair of good boots. There are countless recommendations on this sub from red wing to Danner. Thorogoods are a good option to try out a pair of boots that are more affordable and MiUSA. If I was a mechanic I might get steel toes to protect my toes. If it's the soles that are wearing out you can go to a cobbler after you wear them for a while and have him glue a layer of rubber on the bottom for $10. Every so often have them replace the rubber. So if it were me and I was gonna really F these boots up and it was a trial kind of thing, I'd go for Thorogood steel toes with the thick white soles. They are meant for walking or standing on flat surfaces for long periods, and are more affordable for this sort of "try out" if you will.

Edit: link for example http://www.amazon.com/Thorogood-American-Heritage-804-4200-Steel-Toe/dp/B00623DYVQ#

The Thursday’s Captain has a lug-sole which has quite good grip. That seems like you best move or find a sale on Redwing Iron Rangers .

The ubiquitous Clarks Bushacre 2 is worth mentioning, because you can grab them for less than $70 shipped in the US. I usually wear holes through the soles of shoes within 6-9 months, and while those holes have started showing up at the 10 month mark, the upper is fine even though I don't really take care of them. It's not uncommon for the Bushacres to be on /r/frugalmalefashion for $65. Journeys and Macys carry them for $79-$120. Let me know if you want pictures.

Florsheim and John Varvatos offer some options with a dressier look around the same price, though I can't offer any first hand experience with them.

Browsing through /r/goodyearwelt may be of benefit to you if you're looking for high-quality, made to last footwear. Goodyear welting means the upper is stitched to the midsole, so when the sole wears out a cobbler can replace it. These shoes tend to be pricier, starting around $200 new for the decent stuff with the diminishing returns coming in around the $800 mark for most people, but in general, you get what you pay for.

Here's a great article on chukka options to look into should you decide to spend a bit more.

I KNEW someone would say that!

In all honesty Clark's Desert Boots are a great place to start. It's a well rounded boot that can be found easily under $100. There are also several different colors, materials, and you can find the cheaper Buschacre II variety which have a rubber sole.

I'd be amiss if I didn't also mention the Gafney Wingtip.

Can you give us some more criteria? For instance, what is it about Red Wings that you would like to avoid?

If it's the price, I would recommend Thorogood Heritage Boots (in either moc-toe or plain toe). I've worn a pair of the plain toes semi-regularly for 5 or 6 months and they're quite comfortable. I like the way they look too.

If it's the look of Red Wings that you want to avoid, that's tougher without specifics. Is there any style of boot that you know you like or dislike? For instance, if you don't like the big, chunky style of Red Wings or Thorogoods, you could try these Chippewas which everyone seems to like (but which I have never worn).

I had a question about some chukka style boots I'm interested in. You said be dubious of Cole Haan and I was wondering if it's because of the style or the workmanship. I was looking at these which are on sale for $90 at the moment. I was planning on getting a beeswax leather CDB instead but I thought the Cole Haan ones looked pretty decent too. Thanks in advance for any insight you might have.

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Heritage-Iron-Ranger/dp/B0032UYNKI
290-58 (20% off from shoe newsletter signup)=$232 when bought through amazon, + 2 day free shipping
My reservations: I already have CDB and a Chippewa GQ's, one year old each.

http://www.indochino.com/product/essential-navy-suit vs http://www.indochino.com/product/essential-blue-suit
Been reading recently that the blue is less versatile than the navy, but I feel like the navy suit is too close to black which I already have but maybe you guys know better.

$98 w/ shipping?

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Desert-Taupe-Suede/dp/B000VWDZHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328190823&sr=8-1

Depending on your size, with the 20% off coupon, Amazon is cheaper.

So yeah, sounds legit and fine for the price. I'm sure the Paypal/Ebay process for getting a refund on fake/fault products is good too, though never dealt with that.

This flannel
Love this cardigan sweater
First boots: Alden or Amber Iron Ranger's? $75 dollar difference with the Alden's on sale, but I might be able to find the Ranger's cheaper somewhere? I like to save moneys.

Suitsupply will last a while, it's comparable to Brooks Brothers not-premium end line. Great fit too.

I'd go with Johnston+Murphy for shoes. The melton oxford is a good budget pick

Better. The top looks good. Now for the rest.

Get some new jeans and some new shoes. Generally, you wanna get shoes that aren't too flashy. Avoid stuff with too many colors and overdetailing. Stick to classics. I'd recommend either vans or SIMPLE nikes for sneakers. Get some Clarks:

(http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Desert-Taupe-Suede/dp/B000VWDZHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328190823&sr=8-1)

or some boat shoes if you're older or going for a business-casual kind of thing.

This really belongs in /r/frugalmalefashion but let me have a look.

Edit: notich cheaper, you are already looking at a pretty price effective pair, but Clark's is always an option: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007MCUTK/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/182-5374533-8513748

(asking lots of questions today, sorry!) Does anyone know a cheaper version of the Redwing classic chukka http://www.amazon.com/Red-Wing-Heritage-Work-Chukka/dp/B0032UYMEU . I know they look a lot like CDB but I really dig the flat sole on them as apposed to the heel on CDB's and was wondering if there was a cheaper alternative like them. Thanks!

In terms of better for the price, there is a lot of good options out there if you're patient and look hard. For myself, I paid $90 for Red Wing Iron Ranger Firsts, $80-110 for Allen Edmonds firsts, and $140 for Crockett and Jones Conistons for Peal & Co. However, if you go look for any of these right now, you won't find them, hence the patience requirement.

The thing about Thursday boots is that they're all $200 right now, so you can just drop that and have your boots in a couple days if you don't want to wait.

As far as what's available right now, I found these Wolverine Navy Suede 1000 Mile Seconds for $150, and firsts for $200 with more sizes left. Here's some Chippewas for $165-185, or $186 for these ones. Some Moc Toe Thorogoods for $185, or some Wolverine Kilometers for $150.

So there's an obvious catch here in that availability is limited, while the availability of Thursdays is not, but I do think it's fair to say there are better options out there for the same price or less.

Thorogood have great value boots. The ones you linked don't seem to be good quality and the design is a little tacky.

Clarks Desert Boots, Sperry Boat Shoes, and Vans Authentic in pretty much any basic color. Shop around on any of those you can find pretty good sales on them almost anywhere, with the exception of maybe the desert boots. 80 is the cheapest I have seen for those recently.

People are straight up confused if I wear dresses to work. We are not a sartorial bunch.


re: shoes, I consider pretty much anything that isn't sneakers as nicer shoes. There are some nicer sneakers though. I think these look nice. Although, double standard, because I wear sandals meant for 'hiking' about 90% of the time. Most of it while not actually hiking.

• Clarks Desert Boots in Beeswax
  
  
• In orginal box
  
  
• Size 11
  
  
• Worn 3 times
  
  
• Selling because they are too big for me
  
  
• Will trade for a 10.5
  
  
• $75 shipped
  
  
• PF Flyers Sandlot Edition
  
  
• worn in good condition
  
  
• size 11
  
  
• Trying to make some room for some new shoes
  
  
• $20 shipped (that pretty much just covers cost of shipping and like 5 more dollars)
  
  
• PF Flyers Center Hi Reissue
  
  
• A little newer and less worn than the others, in good shape
  
  
• size 11
  
  
• $25 shipped
  
  
• 2 pairs of Levis 511
  
  
• both size 34x30
  
  
• both dark navy
  
  
• one is rinsed playa, the other is rinsed indigo
  
  
• both in excellent shape, with no visible signs of wear and tear
  
  
• $35 for both shipped or $20 seperated
  
  

Sweet! Thanks for that.

But just to be clear (I'm still a bit new to Clark's) you're talking about the Beeswax Leather pair, right?

https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Bushacre-Beeswax-Leather-US/dp/B004DCNN64/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1465503249&sr=8-2&keywords=desert+boot+clarks

Just so you know, if you really want Clark's you might be better off watching Amazon and Zappos than shopping at their stores, as you are likely to get a much better price. Right now you can get Clark's desert boots for <$85 on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WUAP9E/

If you are looking for good shoes at low prices, I can't recommend /r/frugalmalefashion enough.

I agree with the rest, I bought a pair of Clarks DB recently for $77 and the comfort and quality of the make are great. Check amazon.com for the prices (usually $83 and under). I had to get a half-size smaller, because they make them a bit wide, so check with your local store and try them on before ordering.

gone are the days of payless.

If you're walking that much, on a budget, I'd enjoy seeing how much wear and tear you'd put on a some Chippewa Boots or Chippewa Apache The vibram sole lugged or sans lugged should do wonders in regards to comfort and durability.

with the 20% off $100+ Amazon Coupon and it's a solid frugal purchase. Code SPSHOEI4 at checkout may work as well for 20% off.

Throw some sno-seal or Obenauf's and you're set for most all terrains.

Sure! Obviously everyone has their own tastes, so some people may disagree, but here are some classic "must-haves".

Summer:

Converse Chuck Taylors
https://www.amazon.com/Converse-Chuck-Taylor-Black-M9166/dp/B00G2C9ZH4/

Sperry Top-Siders:
https://www.amazon.com/Sperry-Mens-2-Eye-Burnished-Brown/dp/B000FK738M/

Winter:

Clark's Desert Boots
https://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/dp/B000WU8SBQ/

JCPenney Stafford Wingtips (more formal)

http://www.jcpenney.com/stafford-logan-mens-wingtip-oxfords/prod.jump?ppId=pp5003861327

Those are pretty much the standards they will recommend to you over at /r/malefashionadvice. Check out that sub for a thousand more recommendations!

I just got Chipewa Apaches with big ole Vibram soles.

They're super sturdy, seem fairly weather resistant and look great. I bought some wax too, which is helping more with the weather.

Managed to get them at a reduced price and couldn't be happier. Hope yo make them last several years through resoling and upkeep.

https://www.amazon.ca/Chippewa-Boots-20080-M-Apache-Lace-Up/dp/B004TK2RPS

I own Throgood Moc Toe boots with Safety Toe for work. I see that the boot is waterproof. What I'm wondering is, for the occasional rain or snow day, is this boot still good to walk outside? I cannot tell if the sole will work or not on slippery surfaces.


Thanks!

Depending on how much snow is in your area, I would recommend these or maybe these. I think Amazon has a 20% off coupon FALSHOES. Not sure if it applies to both of these boots, I have not tried.

In addition to these boots, for warmth, get some wool socks like these or these. The costco socks are half the price, but owning both, I can say personally that the People Socks are thicker and nicer quality.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001QJ69V8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1381431229&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70.
These are the thorogood a that I am talking about.. They use the same Lester as red wings, use a very high quality wedge sole, and prity much only differ from RWs in that they have a synthetic mid-sole... I would probably consider these higher quality than the boots that you linked... Thorogood also has a premium line that goes for $150, but I honestly haven't heard much about them.
Also, something to note is that good leather will darken substantially with use (especially oiled leather)... If you were to water seal either boot it would darken quite a bit... I would check out "frostinhisbones" on tumblr and see what his boots look like... That is simply from wear and sno seal (they are the ones that i linked)

Yeah, CDB if you don't have them already. If you like mocs a lot, I have these and they break in great. Otherwise without going up to redwing a more winter boot would be this, this or this.

Worth noting: Red Wing also makes non-heritage chukkas.

I believe both are an improvement over the leather quality and build construction of CDBs. Whether it's approximately $120->$200 worth of improvement is really up to you.

I recommend using camelcamelcamel.

Go here http://camelcamelcamel.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/product/B000WUAP9E?active=price_amazon you can see a chart of the price fluctuations of the boots over time (the link is for the CDB Beeswax in size 9 - you can definitely look for any other item on Amazon). You can set a price alert so that you'll get an e-mail if the price ever drops below a threshold (say, $80).

Another option is Amazon Warehouse Deals - with patience, you'll find a pair that someone has returned and Amazon will resell them at a cheaper price.

I wasn't sure, so I looked it up. Nordstrom Rack is a clearance division of Nordstrom with discounts in the 50-60% range.

> Aren't penny loafers a little formal for jeans?

It would appear that way. But depending on the jeans, you might be able to get away with the less formal boat shoe. And I recently got my second pair of desert boots (versatile piece of footwear). If you go with Clarks desert boots, I recommend following this advice. The options are out there, and we're here to help. :)

Well, Clarks Desrt Boots are casual and look very nice, but you would have to break them in to feel nice. At $70 you can snag a pair from amazon in Beeswax.

http://www.amazon.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Boot/dp/B0007MCUTK

Clarks Desert Boots are always a great choice for dark jeans. I'd try not to spend more than $80 on a pair, though. Amazon might have your size/color at a good price.

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I completely glazed over you using them in winter. Definitely don't get them then.

I went for Thorogood's earlier. Goodyear welted, pretty nice. Here they are.

I would go with either these Thorogood Moc Toes or these Round Toes. They are well within your budget, look great, and will hold up well.

I got lucky and got them off Amazon for $67 in late July without the 20%. The price fluctuates quite a bit depending on the day and seller. I'd say anything under $80 for new is a great deal. Keep checking the price and use http://camelcamelcamel.com/Clarks-Originals-Mens-Desert-Beeswax/product/B000WU8SBQ?context=browse

Part of the reason wee recommend nicer shoes is because they handle wear better -- higher quality leather, resoleable, etc. That said, if you want to go with red wings, they're sturdier and probably look better dirty, and will probably occasionally go on sale for a similar price.

I really don't like that (canvas?) panel on the upper. As played out as they are, I think CDBs probably fit your needs best.

you don't really need a guide on how to wear jeans and polos. Jeans basically go with any color so go to marshalls or Uniqlo and grab 5-10 polos and oxford button downs in any colors you like. You can stay way under $50 a shirt. probably 1/2 that easily.

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Then get a pair of Clark's Bushacres in beeswax, and maybe something like a Red Wing derby from Nordstorms Rack for casual shoes since you shouldn't wear the same shoes every day.

I created the info graphic myself in photoshop. I can try to help you find links for all the items if you would like.
Here are some links to the items. I couldn't find links for all of them:

OUTERWEAR:

• Goodthreads Men's Lightweight Military Jacket
  
• LL Bean Mountain Classic Anorak
  
• LL Bean Warm-Up Jacket, Fleece Lined (Green)
  
  TOPS:
  
  
• H&M Sweaters (Grey and Green) Not the exact item but closet I could find.
  
• H&M Flannel (Red and Black)
  
• Various Crewneck Tees (Grey, White, Green, Navy)
  
• Goodthreads Men's Slim-fit Long-Sleeve Solid Oxford Shirt
  
• Goodthreads Men's Slim-fit Long-Sleeve Plaid Herringbone Shirt
  
• Goodthreads Men's Long-Sleeve Lightweight Slub Henley
  
  
  BOTTOMS:
  
  
• GAP Black Jeans
  
• Levi 511 Jeans
  
• American Eagle Slim Chinos
  
  
  SHOES:
  
  
• Golden Fox 6" Boondocker Boots (Brown)
  
• Nike Killshot 2 (Off White)
  
• Clarks Men's Bushacre 2 Chukka Boot
  
• Vans Old Skool
  
  

As far as sleekness goes, I think Tretorn would be up your alley if you like the look. It's basically a rubber rain boot with a lug sole and fleece lining. No personal experience but it looks like it would be nice, especially if you wore wool socks.

Or, if you wear lug-soled Chippewas with wool socks you'll be fine. They make the same boot with a normal flat vibram sole, but it wouldn't be as good in snow and ice.

I wouldn't go brown belt or shoes with black pants. And I wouldn't wear boots unless they're dress boots like this and not like this. If you have a chance and some money, go buy a light blue dress shirt like this. It will look much nicer.

How should I size for a Pointer chore coat? I have a 40 inch chest so going by measurements I should get a medium but I've been told to size down. Would a small be what I need? How should I account for shrinkage in the wash?

Also, what are your opinions on jeans with a taper and moc toe boots like these? I feel like it would look a little off because of how chunky they are.

Shirts: Size, Medium

1. $30 White OCBD
   
2. $30 Light Blue OCBD
   
   Jacket
   
3. $88 Berkman Trucker Jacket
   
   Pants: Size, 32/30
   
4. $40 Gray Chinos
   
   Shoes: Size 10.5
   
5. $50 White VANS
   
6. $50 Grey VANS
   
7. $60 Navy Sneakers
   
8. $115 Beeswax Dessert Boots
   
   Sunglasses
   
9. $95 Black Wayfarers
   
   Watch
   
10. $55 Watch
    
    This was my list that I gave to Family/Friends. It's basically my first attempt at dressing nice, so any criticism/suggestions would be great. It was basically completely based on this, besides the jacket, watch, and sunglasses.