Reddit mentions: The best camping hygene & sanitation products

Well, here's what I've got so far.

In the spring I'm building a super simple cheap cabin. Should cost me under $1500 to get the frame, roof and walls up. Simple 4x4 pole barn like frame with an A frame roof, roughly 24x24. Metal roof with a rain water collection system.

For the walls, I'll dig a footer, put in a french drainage system(I think that's the right term), and build a short foundation over that and build an 18-24" thick cob wall around that.

An earthern clay floor sealed with linseed oil.

Inside I'll have a woodstove surrounded by cob (a cob oven at this point) with a second stove on top of it also surrounded by cob to cook in. Picture this but made with woodstoves and cobbed around.

The idea is the stove heats up the cob and that acts like a giant thermal battery/radiator.

The idea for the cabin is a 20x20 interior design with 10' ceilings and extremely space efficient usage. Everything built into the walls. Every inch of wall space used for shelving, bunk bed, storage, cabinets, counter top etc. Even the shower/bathroom built into the wall cabinet style.

I've been studying high efficiency, no-till, intensive gardening methods this year. The first step is compost, compost, compost and also vermiposting. All organic waste matter produced must be composted, vermiposted or burned and used in the garden eventually.

Wood ashes are 25% lime(calcium) by weight so it's good to recycle that back into your garden as well.

Table scraps, cardboard and so on get fed to worms and become worm castings (worm poop) which are extremely beneficial to gardens. Also quite valuable as well. The worms themselves sell for up to $30/lb as well.

Anything else gets composted, including human waste. Termed "Humanure".

Long story short, your bathroom is this. After using you cover/bury with sawdust or similar material. Once it's full it gets empty into the center of a compost bin and covered/buried with something like straw, old hay, more sawdust, weeds, shredded leaves etc. Once the bin is full (which takes forever) you build a new one and let the old one age for a long time to allow any potential pathogens time to die (they don't live forever).

For the long story read the Humanure Handbook or snag it off bittorrent.

Instead of buying expensive, synthetic fertilizers for your garden/farm, recycle your own home made fertilizers instead of wasting it.

Read this, this, and this.

By producing your own compost, fertilizer and worm castings you have no need to buy fertilizers, soil amendments or pesticides.

To avoid having your crops ruined by pests you don't plan a ton of one thing. You plant a large variety and rotate them each year. There's also companion planting to help them grow bigger, better, faster, healthier and to protect them from pests. Certain plants will either draw away pests or attract beneficial insects that eat pests.

The whole point of this is to grow large amounts of high quality food in a small space without a ton of work or money. All you need are some heirloom seeds and then you can propagate them on your own after that.

So after my cabin is built my next step will be to extend the walls out to the south by about 20 feet and then build a very simple frame over top of that and cover with heavy duty long lasting greenhouse roofing panels.

It'll be direct connected to the cabin and I'll be able to keep it warm in the winter via the woodstove + heat from the sun. In there I'll expand my worm farming and grow some year round vegetable and herb crops and include a small scale (under 2000 gallon) aquaponics system.

Aquaponics combines hydroponics with fish farming. I can get 300 gallon potable water tanks for $65 each. So I'll set up a series of those in line, remove the tops and connect them in a series so as one gets full to empties into the next one. Then above these have a flat shelf with a long but shallow water tank.

In the top tank I'll produce duckweed.. This stuff can double in mass every 48-72 hours and makes excellent feed for fish (herbivore or omnivore species) as well as chickens, ducks or other animals. Chickens fed a diet including duckweed have shown to have more nutritious eggs.

In the bottom tanks I'll have various aquatic creatures that will be occasionally harvested as a food source. As the animals poop and pee in the tanks, this provides nutrients for the duckweed to grow, providing a circular sustainable cycle. I'll just need to harvest half of the duck weed once every 2-3 days and feed that to the fish and crayfish and supplement that with worms as well as some types of table scraps.

As of now I've narrowed it down to marbled crayfish and Tilapia. I looked at all kinds of animals and looked for quality of meat, ease of reproduction, hardiness and variety of diet. Both critters reproduce like rabbits without needing special water temps or salinity or other bullshit. I also looked at what my local neighborhood produces as well and looked for something unique and different so I could trade what I produce for what they produce.

So by having a self sustaining cycle and producing my own feed for the animals my costs will remain low and I'll save a ton of money on my own food as well as being able to sell or trade in the local economy (neighborhood scale).

Once that is built and running my next step would be to work on a solar system to eventually go off grid in terms of electricity.

I have more info but I need to get ready, going horse back riding today :-)

You'll need a pack (obviously): Check your local gear shops and try them on in store. Understand how they're supposed to fit.

After that, if you follow the 10 essentials you should be covered for the basics.

1. Insulation: Layers are key. Even if it's 60s during the day, nights can drop into the 30s. Be able to bundle up, understand the area you're going. Will you want natural or synthetic materials?
   
2. Hydration: For me, means filtration systems as well as storage. Filtration such as a gravity bag or hand pump. I always have iodine tablets as a last resort. For carrying, a you can't go wrong with a Nalgene or two for sure, but then I highly suggest getting an MSR Dromedary and then attach one of their hydration hoses to it. They have the capacity of CamelBak but aren't as susceptible to springing a leak.
   
3. Illumination: Headlamps or flashlights. Just be able to navigate in the dark.
   
4. Navigation: Map and compass (with the knowledge of how to use them!) are vital. If you feel like spending the extra money and getting a GPS unit, that's up to you.
   
5. Nutrition: High protein, high carb (get that energy!) Trail mix, Cliff bars, bread and peanut butter are my go-tos.
   
6. Shelter: Tents are great, bivys are lighter, I swear by my ENO Hammock. Always check to see if you need to waterproof what you have, understand its setup and make sure it's adequate for the weather you'll be facing.
   
7. Fire: Lighters or matches, just make sure they're in a watertight container. Kindling is good but most places I go I can find stuff laying around. That being said, cotton balls and Vaseline are great and cheap.
   
8. Repair kit and tools: Things break, it's important that you have the equipment to repair them. Patches, duct tape, and a knife are always in my pack.
   
9. First Aid: Have a way to patch yourself up. Rolled ankles and blisters are not uncommon when you're backpacking. If you're able, I highly recommend taking a wilderness medicine course. A Wilderness First Aid is fine, but if you can commit the time and money, a Wilderness First Responder will take you far and make you an asset to anybody and everybody in the backcountry.
   
10. Sun protection: Sunscreen and sunglasses are a must. A brimmed hat is highly advisable. I also try to have chapstick with some kind of sun protection on me as well.
    
    These are the biggies. Obviously you'll want other things depending on where you're backpacking. When you get anything new, make sure you take it out and use it at home. Understand how it works and how you might need to improvise if something on it were to break.
    
    It might seem intimidating at first, but backpacking an absolute blast.
    
    Edit: Pooping! Understand the regulations of your area. If catholes suffice, then a trowel will be useful. If you have to pack it out, there are commercially available Wag Bags, or you can make your own with grocery bags, kitty litter, and ziplock bags.
    
    Also, everywhere you go, understand that it is for everybody. Abide by the Leave No Trace principles to ensure future visitors can enjoy their visit as well!

I'll offer a different perspective: one from your BF's. I recently took my GF out on her first hike, and like you, she was nervous. I made sure she had wipes, and she took a little bottle of body spray with her. I also went through the bathroom procedures with her: If #1, just get away from camp by about 50 paces (we weren't near a water supply). If #2, cathole it far away from camp (or put it in a doggie bag), wet wipe and then TP to dry and put all of that in the bag.

You may have to go pee in the night. So before you go to bed, make sure you put your headlamp and your poo bag (as I call it, but it's just a bag with your shovel, wipes, TP, and doggie bag) somewhere easy to find when you wake up at two AM. Make sure you flip your bag closed when you leave so it retains a bit of warmth. Flip the rain fly all the way open and make sure it stays there as you get out, or it will smack you in the butt, and with the condensation on the rain fly, you'll get a wet butt.

Everyone has to go poop. Don't be embarrassed asking for how to do it properly. If you're self conscious about carrying used wipes in a clear ziplock bag, get a few black doggie bags too, and then put the used wipes / TP in the doggie bag, and the doggie bag in the ziplock.

She told me the wipes were a huge boost to helping her feel clean. You can use them for going to the (non-existent) bathroom, under the armpits, in the groin, on the hands, etc., to help you feel clean.

If you chafe, chafing cream is your friend. Your BF should be packing a small bottle anyway; don't be afraid to ask for it and use it as needed.

Keep a clean set of sleeping clothes, and only use those clothes to sleep in. It's nice to get into something clean for bed. Everything else is going to get dirty.

Hair - she kept it in a hat with a ponytail. She had a very small brush that she used briefly in the morning (shoulder-length hair).

Overall, remember that everyone kinda stinks and is dirty during a hike, especially one of any significant duration. No one thinks anything of it.

You've already got the most important thing - a good attitude and a willingness to learn. Go have fun!

1. You can check out the female funnels for urinating. That might allow you to pee in a bottle like one of the guys. For numero dos, find a public toilet like the rest of us.
   
   This girl (blog is no longer active) set up a pretty smart way for either gender to pee through her plumbing. If you go this route, just be sure you won't get in trouble or ruin anything when you use it.
   
   
2. That's really going to be up to you. Do you have the time and willingness to build your own rig? My personal suggestion is to get a newer van, but not brand spanking new. Everyone has their preference, but I've read that the 2000's and up Econolines with a 5.4l V8 are solid. You'd want a E250 or E350 to ensure that you have the payload to hold everything you want. Even investing in tools and spending a bit on a newer van, you will be nowhere close to what you'd spend on a new class B (sportsmobile, winnebago). Plus, you'd be able to customize it to your liking. You'd also have the satisfaction and pride that comes along with building something of your own. Even if you had a 4x4 conversion (roughly $10,000), you'd still be far under the cost of a new class B. Another option would be to buy a used class B. For example, this. It may be over priced, I don't know, but I think you can see what I mean.
   
   
3. Diesel. Simply put, better gas mileage and longer engine life. The diesels have a higher compression rate, IINM, so the engines normally have twice the life(in miles) as their gas counterparts. However, the maintenance costs are typically much higher. Oil changes alone can be 3x as much.
   
   Do a bunch of research on vehicles. Sprinters typically cost a fortune if they need a lot of maintenance and some years are better than others. However, some come stock with standing room and are much easier to build out. Chevy's are easier to build out than Fords due to the walls and Chevy's get better gas mileage than Fords, but I've heard Fords are more reliable. You'll hear many contradictions, but do your best to weed through all of the information for a general consensus. There sure is a lot of info on this subreddit alone, and then you've got that web that is world wide too :)
   
   Hope to see you on the road!
   
   Edit: I suppose there is more that goes in to deciding to build your own. Time is probably the biggest. Time is money, as they say. Do you have someone who can help you and would want to? That has been the most frustrating part for me. My friends are flaky and unreliable. Fuckers they are! If you're willing to absorb all of the information at your disposal, (youtube, blogs, general webpages about building & 12v electricity/solar) the other person doesn't have to know much, but, man, it helps to have another set of hands. For some projects, two hands aren't enough.
   
   And back to the toilet, I have an emergency toilet that I hope to never use, but it's a luggable loo on a 3 gallon bucket

My husband and I carry the same weight. We split gear but keep it mostly even. At most his bag is 2-3 lbs heavier. For reference I am 5'5"/130lbs and he is 6'/230lbs. We keep our bag weights around 20-25lbs with food and water (2-3 nights). She should be more than capable of carrying the weight if her bag is well fitted to her. I use a women's specific pack and love it.

Also she can pee while standing if she wants to. I carry a pstyle that allows me to pee without removing my pack. I just had to get used to peeing while standing. Also sure beats squatting in poison ivy or getting mosquito bites on my butt.

So I guess just make sure she doesn't over pack, make sure her pack fits comfortably (mens/unisex packs may not work depending on her frame), she can carry her share of the weight, and peeing while standing as a girl is possible :)

Have fun, hope this helps.

Lots of questions here about headsets, etc. Dad here, have researched this, info incoming!

Age of children - if you can put them in a back seat and have another adult back there with them, it depends on how soon they can wear a headset. Every baby is different.

Headsets. For the little babies, this is the toughest. We couldn't find any true headset, and looked into simple sound-blocking earmuffs. We tried several brands before landing on small Peltor Sport Earmuffs from https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015V1VX8/ . For babies with larger heads, you can probably start them on short flights at 4 months. For smaller heads, they may need to be 6-12 months for their head to be big enough for a proper seal.

For the older kids, get one of the Sigtronics Youth headsets https://www.sportys.com/pilotshop/catalogsearch/result/?q=sigtronics+youth . Durable, and they're not $1000 if they misuse them. I have the S-58Y and they've worked fine. The headbands swap out for adult headbands too, so they can grow with them.

Ages - if you've got an adult to sit with them in back (especially if your audio panel has a pilot isolate button), you can take them at just about any age. My wife rides in back with my little one. I am much more selective about who can ride in front. My own older kids, whom I know real well, I let. EAA wants kids to be at least 8 for Young Eagles, and that's probably as good a guideline as any for other kids.

Get them excited about it before you take them up. My little one likes to watch 5-minute segments from One Six Right with me. We put on our headsets and watch them, and she jabbers about the airplanes. I started her out just letting her hold and feel the headset. I'd show her how I always wore one and waited for her to ask for one too. It only stayed on a few seconds at first, but she wanted to try it briefly every time. With the real little ones, your life will be easier if they are used to thinking about wearing headsets and thinking of planes as exciting things.

The older ones love to watch the GPS. They are interested in how fast we are going, how high up we are, etc.

Keep your climbs and descents shallow. Kids don't know how to clear their ears. I aim for 500FPM max. You don't want them screaming in agony. For the infant/toddler crowd, have them munching on or drinking something during the climbs and descents to help with the ear popping.

Don't be that person that insists "we've gotta make time." When the family wants to stop for a break, you stop for a break. Especially if someone needs to use the bathroom. I bring Travel Johns on longer flights for the males on board. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NV878S My wife has looked at everything on Sporty's and didn't want to try any of their products that claim to work for women, so I got nothin for you there.

Finally, the best compliment you can get as a pilot is when they stay asleep during the landing.

Hey! I read your first sentence and did a double-take to make sure I hadn't written it... I'm also a 26 year old female graduate student planning on traveling around for a while (one of the beautiful things about the technological age in which we live is that so much education is online, and we're free to go where we please).
I did a bunch of searching online... looked at a class B camper in person, felt like there was too much there (fridge, heater, AC, shower... felt bulky and unnecessary). I found a great deal on a gutted 1993 Dodge van and I'm starting work on it now. I got it three days ago, and I'm diving into flooring and insulation now. I knew it was going to be a lot of work, but you never really know until you start getting your hands dirty. It's truly a lot of work. And, depending on how you want it to look in the end, a big investment and a lot of trips to Home Depot. If you're strapped for time, I'd recommend paying a bit extra for a van that's already set up.


Peeing might turn out to be an issue. Actually, maybe far more than that other order of business (see: http://www.amazon.com/Cleanwaste-GO-anywhere-Portable-Toilet/dp/B001TKGAKO/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1426742586&sr=8-13&keywords=portable+toilet). I was just talking to my father about this very thing, and there was no conclusion reached. When I'm camping, peeing in the trees is no big deal. Very different story at 10 pm downtown Denver, Seattle, Chicago... I have no idea, but I'm hoping to glean some wisdom from your question :)


Regarding the coffee... Before I bought anything else, actually, I bought a french press designed for camping. I'm dedicated to coffee. I also got a Coleman single burner propane camp stove which I plan on maybe bolting to a counter. I'll heat up some water in the morning and always have pre-ground coffee on hand. This will also be my method for oatmeal, Ramen (if things get desperate), etc. I plan on eating a lot of fruit and granola.


I use coffee shops and libraries a lot for school/work as it is, so those will be my charging areas for my laptop and phone. I like your McDonald's idea for wifi! I'll keep that in mind.

I took my wife backpacking for the first time this year.

See if she would be interesting in one of the stand to pee devices like the freshette or pstyle. They can take some practice to use but helps avoid having to squat to pee.

If she isnt used to camping then a nice inflatable pillow might make things a lot more comfortable, similarly a nice air pad would probably be preferable and make the whole trip happier.

Extra socks, especially if her feet got cold at night would be a plus.

Extra hand sanitizer and wet wipes.

Extra hair ties, even pack a few in your pack.

Those are the big things that we can think of right now.

Congrats on the camper! I camp with kids and the wife in a little Coleman Columbia, and I have experience with a couple toilet options.

If you have younger kids, the cheap little toddler training toilets are easy to use, and then the adults can take care of the cleanup.

We have a seat that uses bags, which is also short like the one you mentioned. Don't worry about the height, short is easier for the kids, as well as being "easier" for the adults (squatting position is the natural poop stance). Get some additive to throw in the bags to gel/solidify the liquids. Some come in tide-pod like packets.

We currently switched to a cassette toilet for solid waste. It's a bit of home comfort for the wife. Really no easier or harder to use than the bagged ones. But it nicely self contained. As for the cleanup... the one we have is actually really easy to empty, no real splashing or spillage, but man it reeks. You can empty these at home in the toilet if necessary. Don't do if you can help it. I've found the best is to hit a rest stop on the way home and empty it there. Here's what I use: Palm Springs Cassette Toilet

Hope this helps. Either way, have fun!

I'm in the process of slowing converting a Ford E150 into a stealth camper. We basically used it like a metal tent initially, but I'm slowly customizing it. The toilet is this: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0000B13MT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It fits on a Rona bucket, with a double bagged garbage bag. Almost never need to use it. We'll eventually upgrade to a composter or something like what you linked, but for now it meets our needs.
We find that anything within a few hours drive of our city is pretty booked months in advance, but this way we can leave on a camping, hiking or fishing trip any time we like with basically no notice. When we camp on old fire roads we find that firewood is so easy to find we're thinking about putting in a small RV woodstove to extend the camping season. I wouldn't want to live this way but it's lots of fun in short stints, we'll go for 10 days or so at a time. To be honest, we often park in a hotel parking lot and when you get up in the morning and walk in the staff will just point you at a free breakfast, they assume you're staying there.

What is your plan for going to the bathroom if there is no running water/toilets/privacy? At the least get a bucket toilet so that you have some place to put it all.

If you plan on doing some clean up, get face masks/respirators and protective eyewear appropriate for that. If you are wearing work gloves, put latex/nitrile gloves under that. There are gloves that are a bit longer than the usual wrist length. Any cut/wound becomes an opportunity for infection. Make sure you have enough first aid supplies to both thoroughly clean and bandage any cut/wound.

Have good "hand awareness" -that is be mindful of not touching your face. All the gloves and ppe in the world won't do any good if you rub your gloved hand over your eyes/nose/mouth and directly administer cooties to yourself. That is another reason for some sort of mask/eyewear -so that you don't rub gunk in places you don't want gunk.

Be careful! Stay safe! I hope your house is ok.
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Get a PO Box immediately so youhave a place for your mail to go. Don't check "commercial or business use" or the post office will be obligated to give out your contact info for anyone who asks. They are about $30 for six months.

Buy a little urinal jug for $5 or pack of disposable ones for $12.

(You have to pee when in a car a lot more than your tire goes flat so why do you have a spare tire and no pee jug in your trunk?)

Here is one with a female adapter for $5. everyone should have one of these in their car trunk anyway.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000M3DCHI?ie=UTF8&tag=reddit0e-20

here are some disposable cardboard paper ones 6 for $12 if you want something smaller.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NV878S?ie=UTF8&tag=reddit0e-20

You don't want to exit a car at night to walk the woods or city streets to find privacy. Aircraft supply stores came up with these women's pee jugs which are used in small airplanes flying for several hours when no one wants to land just to pee.

Other practical things from a friend of mine who has camped across the country:

If you have a car to sleep in find the neighborhoods with lots of apartments becuase they usually have a lot of apartment dwellers who park overnight on the streets so your car won't get hassled.

IF you live near a swimming pool park, beach or lake a lot of them have open showers.

If you have a sportsclub membership you can usually shower and change clothes there (might be worth the monthly purchase for national shower privileges alone.) If you go to a 24 hr one in work out sweats no one will think anything of it if you "accidentally fall asleep" on a floor mat "doing your exercises".

Buy a small wind up or battery powered alarm clock.
A plastic jar of peanut butter, a half gallon jug of spring water, a multivitamin and aspirin bottle, cold cans of chicken based Progresso soups with rice or veggies (which taste like high end gazpacho cold) and a spoon or fork and a can opener a wash cloth, deodorant, hairspray, toilet paper are wonderful things to have in a car at all times whether or not you are homeless/camping whatever.

A wool blanket is a wonderful thing for warmth and window privacy. A Sunday newspaper and tape makes great car window privacy (but also alerts police you might be sleeping in your car which is illegal some places.) An alternative is some of those sun reflectors for car windows which you can get at the 99cents store. Lots of people leave those on windows when they aren't sleeping in a car.

Even an out of service (with canceled monthly bill etc) cell phone can be used for emergency 911 calls if you keep it charged.

Get a thing that plugs into your cigarettes lighter that lets you pull in regular electrical plug devices to do things like run your cell phone and small laptop.here's one for $25

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000157TNA?ie=UTF8&tag=reddit0e-20

WARNING they CANNOT BE USED WITH HAIRDRYERS or HEATING THINGS becuase those use to much electricity.

for that you need a heavy duty one 1500 watt one which will be a few hundred like this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00126IDDC?ie=UTF8&tag=reddit0e-20

no 2000 watt hairdryers if it's 1500 watts! (you should really not use a hairdryer in your car)

Even the smaller ones for cell phones and laptops will run down your car battery within an hour if the car isn't running and the larger one may even run it down when the car IS running becuase they pull so much electric juice.

If you are ever sleeping in your car, the easiest way to stay warm is to get a 2 liter soda bottle and empty it and fill it to the top (no air) with the hottest tap water you can find from a public sink, screw the plastic lid back on tight, and then put that bottle in a blanket or sleeping bag with you. You will stay very warm all night. You probably will need to wrap the hot water bottle in a pants leg or blanket becuase it will be hot on your skin otherwise. Don't leave air in there or it will expand and pressurize the bottle as soon as the hot water gets shaken. got o an aquarium store and buy two clear hoses like in aquariums.
One small diameter and one larger.

The small one can fill jugs from sinks etc when you can't get the jug under the sink faucet.
The large one can be used to route fluids outside your car without opening the door or to help fill radiators etc.

Get a $5 led flashlight and bunches of batteries for 99 cents

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LIQQ7M?ie=UTF8&tag=reddit0e-20

Those are all good things to have in your car anyway.

Ok, ladies, time for me to promote one of my very favorite inventions: the P-STYLE!! Carry one of these with you in a plastic baggie and you'll never have to worry about sitting down to pee again. It's truly a miracle product. You can pee standing up, any where at all, and just rinse it off when you're done. I love mine. I wish I'd invented it. There are a bunch of different types of these things our there, and I tested several, but this is the one I fell in love with.

The Porta makes a good seat but emptying it is a nono. Use plastic bags and paper towels to create a virtual absorbant diaper. The end product will be about the same size as a diaper and is easily disposable with ur daily trash.

Having said that, the Porta potti is going to take up permenant space in your vehicle. It may be best to go with a handicap assist seat like this one. Or just go completely minimal with a space saving bucket that can also hold extra bags, tp, and paper towels while remaining completely innocuous.


Although, looking at it now, I don't feel comfortable with a permenant toilet seat in my rig (that I have to look at). Or anyone else for that matter. So it may be just as beneficial to go with a home depot 5gal bucket and possibly modify it with a pool noodle lol

I think , for emergencies, this is the way to go

I probably wont be doing much until the weather warms up and I can afford to deck it out. My plans are to get a Fantastic fan, some solar panels, batteries and wire it all up. After that I am thinking of mounting a propane tank underneath where one of the fuel tanks was as well as a fresh water tank. It will have a very small kitchenette with a propane powered stove with oven. Not sure if I will go with a minifridge or just use a cooler. Also there will be a toilet. Sounds like a lot to cram in there once I write it all down, but I think it will be great. Keep an eye on the sub, Ill definitely post pictures when I do make progress.

cloud 9 bike seat for 25 bucks - your butt will thank you!

If you have sinus problems & access to power running a small humidifier with essential oils (Rosemary, Eucalyptus, Peppermint) makes a huge difference.

If you're sensitive to noise (or camp with a sound camp on the esplanade) silicone ear plugs are amazing for sleeping. Instead of sticking them in your ear, you use them like putty to seal your ear canal. Way more comfortable, and lets you lay flat against a pillow. Usually they're reusable, on playa each pair tends to last one night.

For you ladies... a sheewee and a pee bottle is the way to go. No more late night trips to the portapots. I have this one because the open design lets me clean it with a baby wipe. Make sure you practice at home first.

I've tried those, but have had...less-than desirable results. Apparently I lack the sort of coordination needed to use one without peeing all over myself. 😆

So I did the next best thing and created my very own Whiz Palace! It's essentially a large bucket with a toilet seat on top; I secure a small trash bag inside and fill with cedar shavings (like you'd put in a small pet cage), to mitigate any noise or smell. The toilet is then placed inside a pop-up shower tent and voila! I also include toilet paper and other accouterments. I change the bag and cedar daily. It's not pretty, but it beats the heck out of stumbling to a porta-potty at 5am.

Our experience:

We bought a collapsible toilet for emergencies. Like this one. Easier to fit.

We didn't use it one single time for the first 6 months of travel, so we ditched it a long time ago. Not a second glance. Toilets for #2 are easy to come by. A caveat is that we're on public lands and campsites most of the time. I think a collapsible toilet would be more helpful for stealth city dwellers... But even then I've seen plenty of people go without.

Unless you have medical issues, then adjust as you see fit!

You can still do GA and have flushable toilets, but it depends where you camp. There’s a “Jon condo” between the amp and meadow stages at the heart of the venue, for when you’re enjoying the shows. If you (arrive early enough to) camp near the bath house by Spirit Lake or the Grand Hall you can have access to flushing toilets, but there will be lines at peak times.

I fest and camp with my 8 year old daughter and we have one of these for just in case. Dudes piss innawoods but that’s not always possible for womenfolk, so we travel with one of these. #1 only.

/u/SpartanUp247 , I'm breaking this up so it's not a mega post.

Insofar as other as other supplies go... well, I could write on that for way longer than I'm going to tonight. I'll try to give a short essential list though.

• Flashlights and ample batteries. Preferably including some headlamps and lantern style lights. Candles as well.
  
  
• An emergency radio, preferably with a hand crank + solar rechargeable battery.
  
  
• Some FRS radio's in the event that cell phones die or coverage is sparse.
  
  
• Propane tanks and the ability to use them for cooking. Usually that will mean a portable burner and high pressure hose. There are other cooking options out there as well, such as Sterno, so grab whatever your situation/funding allows for.
  
  
• Appropriate weather gear. That means cold weather sleeping bags for winter and methods to cope with heat like an Arctic Tie. Maybe a propane heater as well.
  
  
• Don't forget sanitation. A 5 gallon toilet bucket is a good investment. Then stock up on thick garbage bags, baking soda/cat litter, and a mega sized bottle of hand sanitizer.
  
  
• Make sure you have the basics of first aid supplies covered. Enough stuff to treat and wrap wounds, protect blisters, protect from the sun, things like that.
  
  
• Have whatever tools you think you might need for whatever you're prepping for. Things like a wrench to turn off the gas in your house that lives near the gas meter. For people in hurricane areas, an axe to chop through a roof to evade rising waters. Definitely multiple fire extinguishers/fire blankets. Things of that nature.
  
  
• And of course, a gun and training on how to use it is always a smart call.
  
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  Bug out bags are cool and a good idea/place to get started, but realistically if you are forced to sincerely grab that bag and run out of the door with nothing else because things are just that screwed, you are likely pretty hosed. Chances are you'll have time to pack the car in most situations, so the best way to go is to plan on bugging in first and foremost. No point in turning yourself into a refugee if you don't need to. If you're still wanting to start with a bugout bag... see the next post for my recommendation for a cheap startup kit.

1. Gym showers
   
2. gatorade pee bottles. emergency toilet (http://amzn.com/B0024OAQ3Q) otherwise prefer to use public facilities.
   
3. My favorite: My van is decked out with a 4 burner propane cooktop with oven. Have a small sink. A 12V engel fridge. 700W microwave. Inverter for appliances like food processor and blender. This was a main point of my build since I love cooking. You can easily get by with a water jug and basin for dishes, and a butane or propane small cooktop. And a cooler for food. I just went all out :)

Something like this. There are reusable versions that are great for camping but i feel the disposable is better in the festival setting.

THIS is the detergent, and

THIS is the DWR restoration product I use for my Arc'teryx gear.

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\^ Should do the trick, though keep in mind a garment bag is best practice. A wash-in DWR restoration + detergent product also exists, though this method is a bit less effective than a standalone product.

\^ As far as dryer heat goes, I'd avoid full heat and take to a laundromat if your dryer doesn't have a "medium" or "low-heat" setting. Better safe than sorry, especially with a Beta SL!

The pStyle seems to be the most univerally beloved. Super cheap and very easy to use.

I use a freshette for when I'm kayaking and don't have a good place to squat. I like it because the hose lets you direct your pee flow easier. I have even used it inconspicuously with my shorts on by sliding the hose part down my pant leg. I would definitely recommend it! Easy to use and no spills!

1. Bring toilet paper (80,000 people go through a lot of toilet paper; sometimes it's hard to find, especially at night).
   
2. Baby wipes (cleaning off sweat and dirt between showers and/or going to the bathroom with).
   
3. EZ-Ups are great. As many have said, buying some cots and sleeping under one is often much more comfortable than a tent. Manchester, Tennessee is a hot and muggy place.
   
4. Bring a tarp or two. You can use them for a lot of things. Wrap it around your EZ-Up to give you a shaded area. Stake it to the ground under your EZ-Up so you have a "floor". Use it over your tent for extra protection in case of rain.
   
5. If you want/need a tent, then this one would be fine. It really just depends on your budget/how nice you want it to be. If you want a tent with an air mattress inside or just extra room, I'd suggest something like this. If you don't want an EZ-Up, you could go with a huge tent that has an attached screened-in area. Keep in mind, though, that the bigger the tent the harder it usually is to set up.
   
6. Bring some lanterns/flashlights/headlamps so you can see around your campsite at night. Or for late night bathroom runs.
   
7. If your girlfriend (or you) are at all shy of dirty portajohns then you might want to get this, this, and these. Depending on where you're camped, the nearest bathroom can be a 5-10 minute walk away, so this is a nice convenience.
   
8. If you want your phones/electronics to work for picture taking and such (your signal will probably suck most of the time), I'd recommend getting a portable charger such as this.
   
9. Sunscreen. Lots of it, if you're a pasty ginger like me.
   
10. Gold bond body powder (for your balls).
    
11. Comfortable shoes (you're going to be walking a LOT). My girlfriend and I walked over 30 miles last year, and we were nowhere near the farthest campsite away from Centeroo (the main concert grounds).
    
12. Water. Bring shit loads of it. A lot of people don't realize how much water a person needs when exerting themselves in that type of heat, but it's a lot. I typically bring 2 24 packs of bottles and a few 1 or 2 gallon containers (for filling my CamelBak).
    
13. A CamelBak. This should be number 1. I recommend at least 1-2 liter size. It's so much nicer than carrying around a backpack full of water bottles, or running out of water during every show and having to fill up in between.
    
    That's all I got. See you on the farm!

Lots of good info here already, so I'll just add this: get one of those pee funnels so that you can pee upright without having to take your pants all the way off. My favorite is this because it is hard plastic so easy to shake dry and store. They seem silly but I've found it to be one of those little things that make my outdoor experience a lot more enjoyable. The days of squatting in the woods and splashing pee on my boots are over. It makes having to pee outside a tent in the middle of the night much less unpleasant as well. Not to mention pit toilets - They can sometimes be super dirty and filled with flies. Not having to squat over that is a huge plus!

Everything is a trade off. You'll just need to decide what you're willing to put up with and what you're not. Time for money. Convenience for money. Etc..

1. A must have? Naa, but you need to be willing to find a bathroom. I'd suggest something like the following to make the task a bit more manageable in the van. And for the other business
   
2. If I had the money, I'd buy one already setup. Doing it yourself will always end up with more than you expected. Time, money, blood, anger, grief. However, if you just love to build then by all means, build, don't let me stop you.
   
3. I'm sticking with Gas, however, here is what one place on the internet says.
   
4. I'd buy something like it and be done.
   
   Good luck!

Week 2! Sorry, haha. I'm actually gonna bring portable urinals (which sounds gross, but apparently more people use them at festivals than you'd think) and offer them to my fellow GNR campers around me so no one feels like they need to leave. Since you're gonna be camping, here's the link if you're interested.

TravelJohn-Disposable Urinal (6 pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NV878S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fPvxDb15AQ0NA

The trash bags are essential! I forgot to mention that, you are more prepared than me though I should really put some TP back in my stash. I need to add a bottle of water or two and hand sanitizer though for sure. Great tips. It's unfortunate we even need these things but it's better to be prepared. When I was pregnant I got these and I carry them with me too: https://www.amazon.com/Travel-John-66911-TravelJohn-Disposable-Urinal/dp/B000NV878S/ - I don't know if they'd hold a poop but they give me comfort in knowing if I was really really desperate and could find a secluded place I didn't want to leave a trace behind in then I might try.

Well we PC guys sometimes have to just make do with what we have on hand while we save up money for what we need, but, if you really want to get efficient I'd suggest one of these maybe on some sort of custom wooden platform. Desk height and all that.

I have a pstyle and LOVE it. Use it for hiking and backpacking. Keeps me from peeing on my boots or mooning the world. When I first got it, I hopped in the shower for a practice run. Peeing standing up was the hardest thing in the world! Totally against all my instincts, haha. May have to try snow-writing this winter.

http://www.amazon.com/pStyle-Clear/dp/B002AA8GDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412425177&sr=8-1&keywords=pstyle I hear that one's better, easier to clean.

Best hundred bucks you'll spend. Easy peezy.

https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Indicator-Traveling-Roadtripping/dp/B07218B4DQ

https://www.amazon.com/Go-Girl-Female-Urination-Lavender/dp/B003BEDUS6

https://www.amazon.com/pStyle-Clear/dp/B002AA8GDQ/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1468181217&sr=1-1&keywords=pstyle

Sure you can say it's one more thing to carry, but it's a tiny item and goes to show that women could very well stay in the vehicle and 'pee like a man.'

so first of, I am a dude and it is a lot easier to pee in certain situations being a guy... If I was a girl maybe I would be more inclined to install a bathroom, but I can't speak for everyone. But anyways.... I will be working in healthcare facilities that have locker rooms including showers that I will have access to 24/7. I also plan on getting a planet fitness membership and can also use those facilities 24/5 (24hrs during weekdays). I already workout every day at a gym so going to a bathroom and showering in a gym is more normal than using my bathroom at home to be honest. Regardless, I will also have a non translucent bottle with me in case I really need to pee but can't find a place to go. If something is going on with my stomach and I really can't make it somewhere to take a crap I might get something like this but I really really only want that to be for emergency situations..... My friend just started vandwelling and he decided to go a little more luxurious and he got a portable toilet similar to this for emergencies and apparently they are pretty odorless and emptying them isn't that bad....I may end up getting one but I want to see how well I can deal without one. The benefit of those portable toilets is that they prevent you from having to deal with black water plumbing which adds complexity to your design and increases maintenance a lot. You also have to empty the black water tank at specific dumping locations. But some models of the portable toilet are not completely odorless and I've never personally emptied one so it might suck. As for showers, besides the health center and planet fitness I may get a camping shower or just get one of these and rig it into a jerry can or something for outdoor showers.

here's the product on amazon, there's a video icon along the left hand side where the photos are.

basically its a small bag (starts small, then you unroll it) with a rim that you pee into, and magically your pee turns into gel and doesn't smell. works multiple times until it's full. no joke, depending on where your campsite is compared to the porta potties, these could be useful.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NV878S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2I2ECZCUY3ZZV

Amazon - it's called a SheWee. I haven't tried it yet but the reviews are great.

Last year there were girls passing out these awesome 1 time use funnels in the womens porta potties. Peed standing up! it was so cool and I think you can buy them on amazon and carry a few around a day. I def plan on it. I am a little too short to do a proper hover. TRY THESE

pstyle all the way you guys! I love it so much. I used it on a backpacking/camping trip and it was so flipping easy.
I didn't leak once, even on my first try at home. BUY IT!

There should be a lot more discussion on this topic. Bullets and beans don't mean anything if you can't dispose of waste in safe manner. My solution / thoughts below, and I live in a rural area but on a municipal system so this may or may not be as applicable.

For urine, pee in something like a bucket , or build a urinal that drains into a french drain. In general urine can be disposed of fairly easily. Gallons and gallons can go into a rather small area which you can cover later with dirt. Except for the fertilizer burn there's really no issues here. As others have noted keep the urine and solids separate.

For solid waste, relatively easy is:

• a 5 gallon bucket (which you probably already have for storage).
  
• a lid kit for the bucket.
  
• some biodegradable bags that fit into the bucket. You can just clean out the bucket each time but this makes a little easier and you can just bury the whole bag.
  
• some type of absorbing material to dry out the solid waste, and handle any urine that gets in there too. I have a pellet stove so I literally have tons of wood pellets which absorb a lot of water. Other good ideas are coir, sawdust, shredded cardboard, or kitty litter.
  
  Regarding the municipal system, eventually it will back up, it's a question of time. Where I live it's a straight downhill shot to the municipal waste treatment center, no lift pumps required. The waste treatment facility has backup generators and overflow ponds so provided they can still operate things will work. Shit flows downhill, as it was.
  
  In an extremely prolonged sort of situation where the crews weren't out doing maintenance or a large earthquake actually ruptured the pipes, things will back up. The folks at the bottom will experience it first.
  
  You can install a backup prevention device. It has regular maintenance and the install could be easy (in the crawlspace) or terrible (you have to dig). If you're preparing for generalized disruptions it's probably overkill but if you're on a municipal system and want to isolate yourself, it's a good idea. /u/parametrek 's PDF post is terrific, that's something every prepper should have.

OMG i started to look online for these cups and i found something even better. these must be made in Australia

or if you want a reusable.

or one in your favorite color

I'll be a lot easier in Victoria, than where it snows. However, this was a choice quote from /r/vandwellers that I just read that strikes a chord. I localized it for victoria

>February. Imagine waking up at 3am in that van with diarrhea, 8c inside, -10c outside, and trying to hop out and thru the rain, into the slush on the ground fast enough to make it inside some building's restrooms in time without going into shock? I'd strongly recommend a porta-potty.

The recommended picking up one of these for emergencies https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Toilet-Potty-Seat/dp/B07218B4DQ

Is it better than usual? You have to be right next to your vehicle.

$70 is pretty expensive compared to simple 5 gallon bucket seat.

So, my fiancée and I had to cave and get a 1 bath (no kids any time soon). Been pretty good the last 3 years.


But...flair is starting...very much considering one of these.

Yup, safest (but kind of gross) method is to just pack the shit out in an odor proof bag.

Popular product for packing shit out : http://www.amazon.com/Phillips-358005-12-pack-WAG%C2%99-Bag/dp/B001P6ZFG2?tag=r601000000-20

THIS. Except I've used it a couple of time. Cat litter is your friend, too. A couple of tuna fish cans of cat litter in the bottom of the plastic bag helps.

https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-9881-03-Luggable-Toilet/dp/B0000B13MT/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1IPNUFKE8O24U&keywords=5+gallon+bucket+toilet+seat+lid&qid=1554736998&s=gateway&sprefix=5-gallon+bucket+toilet+lid%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-3

ah...pretty easy. I've done some extreme camping/festivals and had to pack out everything.

Either a compostable toilet, or simply a honey bucket. Luggable loo lid on 5 gallon buckets. Place in biodegradable bag, then a cup of absorbent kitty litter. Do your business, and each time give it a pump of orange citrus freshener and a cup of kitty litter. Ue until bucket is 1/3 full and tie off bat and toss in garbage or a hole.

Repeat. The luggable loo lids actually snap tight down when not in use, sealing off all odors, etc. Feels just like using a regular toilet.


https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-9881-03-Luggable-Toilet/dp/B0000B13MT/ref=sr_1_2?hvadid=178131274494&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9031550&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=15145053386159400452&hvtargid=kwd-1915328318&keywords=luggable+loo&qid=1555353004&s=gateway&sr=8-2

You should put a biodegradable plastic bag with/without kitty litter inside that plastic? bucket. Then you can throw the plastic bard over board, save the bucket, and won't litter anything.

Edit.
Something like this http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO

For pooping, I would recommend something like this, at least it is all contained to the bag and can use pretty much any bag you need to.

I love this ONE

Easy to clean, no small holes or tubes, pull forward and wipes the drips off too. Rinse with water and stick it in a ziplock. It's also the smallest and lightest I've found.

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A five gallon bucket with a snap-on toilet seat is a good idea. Wag-Bags are a compostable liner for the bucket that comes with the neutralizing powder to treat about four uses before needing to be replaced.

Not at all fitness related, but have you thought about how you're going to pee??
Get a P-style and practice, practice, practice!! Its basically a funnel that lets you pee standing up. I highly recommend it.

https://www.amazon.com/pStyle-Pink/dp/B002AA2LD2

I'm hoping to snag This soon, with This for camping out this summer. I know my teenager is grumbling already but this should at least provide some comfort while we're camped out in the middle of nowhere.

I have a camp toilet. It’s a 5 gallon bucket, lined with a compactor bag (those are pretty much unbreakable and no leaks). Add a handful of the blue crystal kitty litter (no clay or clumping, just blue crystals). Top with a toilet seat (made to fit 5 gallon buckets), and you’re good. Change it once a day. You shouldn’t get any smell with the compactor bag/crystal litter combo.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0000B13MT/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523845278&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=reliance+toilet+seat&dpPl=1&dpID=31QH7j4%2BX1L&ref=plSrch


I’d also have some formula, just in case you get injured.

Get one of the camping things, like the pstyle, it would probably fit through the spanx slit?

TravelJohn for the win!

Disposable Urinal (6 pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NV878S/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_8qFvDbR8XZY08

Amazon has some for the same price, too.

https://smile.amazon.com/Grangers-Clothing-Outerwear-waterproof-washing/dp/B00R1FODEG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524069315&sr=8-1&keywords=grangers

And here's a better deal, by volume, on the Performance Wash:

https://smile.amazon.com/Grangers-Performance-Ultimate-Cleaner-Outerwear/dp/B00R1FO5MQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1524069315&sr=8-2&keywords=grangers

I'd be using it with an adapter for my anatomy. This one, specifically, so I'd have gotten tubing that would fit into. I've done it with my camper van so I don't have to go outside when it's cold. And I know it works.

Maneuvering that funnel bit while holding a bottle in place and not spilling is enough to fully wake me up, so no real advantage over going downstairs.

I spend a lot of time peeing outside, and this is a lifesaver. (link is to a device that lets you pee standing up)

A very important thing people forget about when prepping. Especially if you are hunkered down/bugging in, you're going to need a place to do your business. Multiply that if you have family.

I got this, although I'm sure there are plenty others just as good. A rigged up 5 gallon bucket could probably do the trick, as well.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FIAPXO?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Alternatively, for those who are more interested in a bit of comfort I recommend the Luggable Loo. Combine that bad boy with a trash bag and some kitty litter and you're set!

Just don't order it from Alexa...or she may laugh at you

I keep Combat Wipesat my desk, and they've been great. However, I have a short commute; they may not satisfy your need.

I always bring my own toilet. I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368218018&sr=8-1&keywords=luggable+loo

Nothing is nicer than to use the bathroom at your own camp. We have a huge tent, so we can set up the bathroom in there. We've also brought a pop-up shower and used it to set up a bathroom, kinda like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Changing-Camping-Privacy-Outdoor/dp/B007ZJ99HE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368218091&sr=8-1&keywords=pop+up+camping+shower

I use:

• Bidet bottle
  
• Bidet
  
• Wipes (usually half a wipe each time)
  
  The 0.5 liter collapsible bottle was great for me, the right amount of water for cleanup and hand washing. I personally wouldn't be comfortable using a drinking bottle for bidet-ing, but it's obviously been done.

Travel John and a blanket....just make sure he doesn't shake it off more than 3 times.... otherwise he's playing with himself.


TravelJohn-Disposable Urinal (6 pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NV878S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_zJKfzbVBTPN82

Pooping in the woods tho is so liberating! There are some portable toilet options and they make little pop up tent style bathrooms that you can also use to shower in.

Tent - WolfWise Pop-up Shower Tent Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AT3T0GC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5WXmDbGHCSTYH

Toilet - Reliance Products Luggable Loo Portable 5 Gallon Toilet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FIAPXO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aYXmDbGPG18AJ

While trailer might be super comfy, you might end up limited in exploring back roads while you are out.

You can with pStyle! http://amzn.to/2rTzAqC :)

Get one of those portable camp toilets, hand it to her at the door, and point to the backyard.

Amateurs. This is what you bring to a festival: TravelJohn-Disposable Urinal (6 pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NV878S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_RXAxxb48H172N

I like your organization on those shelves! I need to do something similar.

What's your sanitation plan? I see Lots of people with > 72hrs of food / water but no way to handle 72 hrs of human waste.

Can I recommend you throw a cheap 12-pack of toilet paper and some disinfecting wipes in there? maybe store a portable toilet & supplies or ensure you have a shovel & knowledge to dig a latrine ?

The most space efficient solution is to use wag bags. If not familiar with them, they're used extensively by campers and hikers; basically a couple of bags with some absorbent material inside. Can be used alone or with a toilet seat that folds up into a very small space like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-271-Portable-Folding-Travel/dp/B000K6HN22/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=camping+toilet+seat&qid=1555773820&s=gateway&sr=8-6

Some have entirely biodegradable bags, most can be just tossed in landfill. NOT in pit toilets, etc. Folks make their own with bags and kitty litter. Urine goes into a pee bottle.

Some camping areas now require a system where all human solid waste is carried out, so useful in those scenarios.

You could also look at cassette toilets, kind of an improvement over the bucket-and-seat, but a bit easier to use to dump the waste, and sometimes even smaller. Like this: https://www.amazon.com/Thetford-White-92860-Porta-Potti/dp/B07CHLVS16/ref=sr_1_21?keywords=cassette+toilet&qid=1555774170&s=gateway&sr=8-21

I actually recommend the pStyle more than this one. The pStyle extends out forwards so you don't pee on your own ankles, and it doesn't have a tube design so you don't get it bubbling up if you pee too quickly into it.

1. A 5 gallon bucket from Lowe's - $4.
   
2. A snap-on toilet seat - $13
   
3. Being able to take a dump beside a gently burbling brook like a normal human being - Priceless

You may find this useful then.

I use Granger's Performance Wash whenever I clean my SD's. I've used their combination Wash + Repel to restore DWR on a pair of mine that I accidentally washed with regular detergent.

After using either/or of those products, putting them in the dryer (after thoroughly hanging to dry) really brings the DWR back to life, from my experience.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000NV878S/ref=pd_aw_sims_1?pi=SS115&simLd=1

I actually think this would be better for you, since it provides more information on how it works and has reviews you can draw from.

But in regards to your back pain, that may or may not be connected to your urinary problem so ask your doctor if there might be any correlation. Since one poster said in the other post that it may be due to a pinched nerve, they may possibly be connected. I think finding a neurologist is a good idea along with using a product like the one described above so you don't have to worry about your conditon.

You don't need some crazy Ranma 1/2 events to occur to be able to pee standing up.

I present to you, you go girl! (it comes in Khaki

as well as a disposable urine director

or the Freshette

or even the pStyle

or the P EZ

They make nice seats for buckets https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FIAPXO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_yK3NDbRGWBFZD

so can you re-use the trash-bag for multiple times without getting it stink? also no need to close the nylon bag after being used??
and last question are we talking on something like that?: https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-4B-Portable-Folding-Toilet/dp/B000K6HN22

Terrible idea, unless your idea of a good idea is getting diarrhea spatters all over your tires, legs and shoes.

A 5 gallon bucket with a toilet seat lid and a biodegradable plastic liner would be a much better idea for a road trip.

Lots of people here have obviously never gone camping, hunting or working in the wilderness for long periods away from sanitary facilities in a leave-no-trace environment. Pooping/peeing in bags is easy, private, and not the slightest bit degrading. Check out these products (you might even want to pop them in your car or van for long road trips -- especially with kids):

https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO

https://www.amazon.com/Travel-John-66892-TravelJohn-Disposable-Urinal/dp/B000NVBYD8/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1472974399&sr=1-1&keywords=travel+john

https://www.amazon.com/GigaTent-Pop-Pod-Changing-Room/dp/B00CP8SJVW/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1472974194&sr=1-2&keywords=privacy+tent

If this is what the employer is supplying, it's all good.

There are better and more expensive models but if you dont want to pay that much I recomend you this one, Ive used this during the early days, with wrath I switched to a more luxory model.

https://www.amazon.com/Stansport-271-Portable-Folding-Travel/dp/B000K6HN22/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1541910149&sr=8-13&keywords=camping+toilet


Luxory Model:

https://www.amazon.com/Medline-Heavy-Padded-Drop-Arm-Commode/dp/B009GQ492E/ref=sr_1_27_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1541910305&sr=8-27&keywords=toilet+chair

High end Model:

https://www.amazon.com/SUKONG-Aluminum-Portable-Bedside-Commode/dp/B078S6QTPP/ref=sr_1_51_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1541910360&sr=8-51&keywords=toilet+chair

The freezing thing is just a myth. As for not washing it that's also completely not true, washing your rain gear is very important to remove dirt and grime cought in the Gor-tex porous membrane, if clogged the garment won't breath correctly. You do however have to use a side loading washing machine and specially formulated detergents like Nikwax or Grangers, Also putting your rain garments in the dryer on low will reinvigorate the original DWR coating.

Maybe you'd like these: http://www.amazon.com/P-Mate-Female-Disposable-Urine-Director/dp/B000R8YAH4/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1427738064&sr=8-14&keywords=pee+standing+up

It would be an option if she had a female urination device, like this one.

Challenge accepted, with one if these http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000R8YAH4

One of the name brands is a shewee. I'm a guy so I don't really know how well they work.

I got these during my first pregnancy when I had a brutally long commute with no easy bathroom locations. They're not perfect and can't hold a, "my bladder is exploding" amount of pee but they're better than nothing.

I can't recommend these enough for those early morning urges that wake you up and you can't face leaving your tent and staggering around in the dark trying to find the toilets...

Travel John Unisex Disposable Urinal Pack of 6 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000NV878S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fv.gDbCN31TGE

They may seem grim, but they are silent, absorb all smell, and instantly turn your wee into a gel so you could turn the pouch upside down with no leakage. Chuck them in your rubbish bag when done.

Each Glasto a new friend in the group thinks it's a weird and disgusting concept, but inevitably come begging for a pouch or two when they get desperate!

They work great for male and females. Haven't had the need to test it's vomit absorbing capabilities yet thankfully!

Use a garbage bag before sitting down. Then take bag to dumpster.


Get a real seat. Much easier.


https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO

It's better to pee before entering a crowd.. and I know nature calls sometimes but don't go peeing on people's feet. Bring one of these at least.

Amazon has these.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FIAPXO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3N1J8PBTIO1EB&coliid=IXAS6L8D5HLVJ

There are plenty of female urinary devices on the market for camping and hiking - essentially specially-shaped funnels.

I got this one for my wife.

Feel free to bother. I'm home and bored out of my fucking mind.

Dont tell the school or the company anything. They dont need to know that.

Also....it might be an inconvenience. you'll be able to stop at truck stops or rest areas 9 times out of ten just about whenever you want. But I'd reccomend you buy something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?adgrpid=54751044143&hvadid=274898290060&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=1020610&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=b&hvrand=3086118800351964656&hvtargid=aud-676677759484%3Akwd-297836697976&keywords=poop+bucket&qid=1554242467&s=gateway&sr=8-1


And keep a few strong trash bags on the truck in case of emergencies. Set up the bucket, line it with a trash bag, do your business and then throw away the bag asap.

I have one but I've only had to use it a couple times.
It's a life saver.

You may want to stock up... travel john

http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO people buy this prodcut for "SHTF". It's the perfect shit bucket.

I purchased a brand new thetford toilet with the water flush and holding tank, I think it was around $150. When I finally finished my build I ended up just using one of those $10 bucket seats, and the thetford is just sitting in my storage unit, never used. In other news.. new thetford toilet for sale :P.

https://www.amazon.com/Emergency-9881-03-Portable-Toilet-5-gallon/dp/B0000B13MT/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1503973880&sr=8-2&keywords=5+gallon+bucket+toilet

And a portable toilet to go with it

https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO

Still available: http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1371749208&sr=8-3&keywords=bucket+toilet+seat

http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO

in one of these?

or, pound away and keep one of these next to your desk

One of these. You can get the bags with the bio gel in them or buy bio gel on the cheap and potty bags.

Ta da!

They make seats for buckets too btw. Or you can buy the full kit.

Reliance Products Luggable Loo Portable 5 Gallon Toilet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FIAPXO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_9Sw8CbA26Q8J0

$18 on Amazon

if doing it all at once, i suggest getting one of these

Found out about this by way of /r/vandwellers:

https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO

From what I've read a lot of people use this https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1480961358&sr=8-7&keywords=porta+potty

Not even with this?

https://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO

Get one of these and a "privacy poncho" and the entire road system is your outhouse.

Lug a Loo

Stansport Portable Folding Toilet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000K6HN22/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_8PvjxbSNKA1ZE

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Or this, for when you need to pee in a public place, regardless of gender! Only $12 for four of them!

If you are a male, in the future you could carry one of this. Works great, the urine solidifies in the chemical powder that's inside. You can put a coat over your lap or a blanket and do your thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Travel-John-66911-TravelJohn-Disposable-Urinal/dp/B000NV878S

You need these.

You can get a product that is a mix between the two.

bro. you should be there TONIGHT! just grab one of these http://www.amazon.com/Travel-John-66911-TravelJohn-Disposable-Urinal/dp/B000NV878S and a case of power bars.

Equipment

• Pee Bags

We live in a golden age. You are in luck.

The ground, water bottles, or Travel Johns

http://www.amazon.com/Travel-John-66911-TravelJohn-Disposable-Urinal/dp/B000NV878S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1427645453&sr=8-4&keywords=portable+urinals


Is that what you are talking about?

http://www.amazon.com/Travel-John-66911-TravelJohn-Disposable-Urinal/dp/B000NV878S

Got these and used them the past two years (whenever I wore a difficult-to-pee outfit): https://www.amazon.com/P-Mate-Female-Disposable-Urine-Director/dp/B000R8YAH4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491331567&sr=8-1&keywords=pee+mate

Just takes a while to get used to it

There's lots of products that are made for this (Uri-Mate, Urinelle, P-Mate, Freshette, etc).

You can always use this.

Just get one of these, or something similar.

There's these

I am a woman and I 100% suggest this. Best purchase I have ever made.

https://www.amazon.com/pStyle-Lavender/dp/B002AA8GDG/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1524606196&sr=8-6&keywords=pee+funnel

Not quite the same thing, but I just made a very similar 'sock' for my pstyle stand-to-pee thing (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002AA8GDG/) I use while hiking. I hated having to put it in a plastic bag without having a way to immediately clean it so I made a cover out of wool, and I plan to lanolize it like a diaper cover.

Order one of these babies and you too can pee anywhere!

She needs one of these so she doesn't have to squat in the urinal.

Chemical toilet

or

DIY composting toilet

https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Indicator-Traveling-Roadtripping/dp/B07218B4DQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1539395421&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=portable+toilet&psc=1

If you already have the 5 gallon bucket, what's the advantage of the hitch?

The toilet lid itself is as low as $13
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000B13MT

I'm just going to leave this here.

> I have to divert if I need to pee. Men can just use an empty Gatorade bottle.

I admit, not as easy for a girl as for a guy, but still maybe an alternate to a diversion. TravelJohn

This: http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Luggable-Portable-Gallon/dp/B000FIAPXO

No seriously. What if you don't have access? Sawdust (or biogel/bags, etc.) and this bucket will allow you use the restroom comfortably if the water gets turned off or you have no access for some reason. And until you do need it/use it, it can store all your other items.

Amazon has a solution to that problem.

The only way I can think of to do this in an Astro van is with a portable shower with maybe a hose to your van's water supply and a portable toilet where you poop into wag bags.

this thing. I feel so wrong posting this here because I am not a woman, I feel like I've just joined a conversation in the ladies restroom when sneaking to use one of the stalls because the guys bathroom was at capacity. I swear I'm not a creep, bye.

People in the wilderness. Rock climbers, rafters, kayakers, canyoneers, etc. Enough people that it's a a full section of the NRS webpage including seats and bags specifically for shitting in 5 gallon buckets. For rafter it is also common to use a Rocket Box. Bags for peeing in also exist but you don't have to use those most places.

I really like prana's stretch zion material and the briann pant in particular because of it's low rise and the skinny leg keeps me covered, doesn't drag, and doesn't get snagged though I am considering adding some breathing holes to the crotch.

As for peeing, the p-style is freaking magic.

i've sadly got a good amount of experience with that, and yes, the horror is quite palpable when dealing with a failed system.

I recommend a standard porta-potty. they run between $50 and $150 depending on quality and size. They all work the same way... waste is all contained airtight in the bottom part, which you just fill with 2 cups of water and a half-cup of blue solution. The top of the toilet has a small compartment for regular tap water to "flush", along with toilet paper, with the press of a manual button. With this setup, you can have slightly more comfortable "emergencies", around 10 comfortable poops, and you have plenty of time to empty it in any toilet at your convenience (the bottom part slides out and carries like a suitcase of sorts, so you can even empty it in a public restroom toilet). This setup is pretty clean and very low odor as long as you're using the right solution. emptying it out at a toilet will be stinky for a minute or two, but thats the worst part.


example: https://www.amazon.com/SereneLife-Portable-Toilet-Potty-Seat/dp/B07218B4DQ
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7weHABquBk

I own one of these, which has been useful for a few hiking/camping situations because it lets you pee standing up with your pants on. It's kind of high stakes urinating, though: fuck up and you're pants are covered in pee. And no matter what you end up with a pee covered funnel, which is non-amazing.

I'm sure that one of these would work disturbingly well.


I'm a bit more disturbed by the fact I know they exist.

I live and drive in the Midwest. I put a telescoping shovel in my trunk at the first snow. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002SIR91A/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1415298971&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40
I always keep these within reach:
http://www.amazon.com/Travel-John-66911-TravelJohn-Disposable-Urinal/dp/B000NV878S
Bathrooms are not always available and puke just happens.

Many states have passed the Restroom Access Act (Ally's Law) for people with specific medical conditions to have access to bathroom. You can also request for a card here.

In any case, I too have a similar set up, but in my car in case of an emergency in the middle of a drive. It's a bucket but with a toilet seat that you can get on Amazon

My bad it was 3 hours I looked up the arrival about it. These are the buckets. They were filled with emergency packets of water and something else like a emergency blanket and we conveniently had gotten them like 2 months before it happened.

My old standby is the p style. Its just a hard plastic stp. It is a purely purpose built product so it excels at allowing the user to stand to pee and that is it, no packing, no passing at the urinal. I mainly rely on it for outdoor activities or travel and I've never had any issues. Its $13 so even if it doesn't work out you're not out much.

http://www.amazon.com/pStyle-Clear/dp/B002AA8GDQ

You're going to want more cars/spaces. 2 years ago my group had 12 people with 4 cars (so 4 spots) with around 9 tents and an EZup. That was full to the brim. No spots for shower or potty.

Last year /u/rubbersoul93 built a shower for our camp out of PVC pipe, connectors, a few shower curtains, duct tape, one of these, and a big tub of water. http://i.imgur.com/8fBGnJo.png

I guess you could use the stall for a bathroom too and get something like this to use, but then you'd either have to dump it at the portapotties, pack it out, or live with it for 4 days.

> Having no real way to crap at night. (Always go before you go to sleep!)
>

Dude! http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Camp-Toilet-Camping-Commode/dp/B000CN9CN6/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1415065795&sr=8-19&keywords=portable+toilet

Came here to post this. I got a pstyle for hiking, but use it anywhere I have to go in a portapotty (road trips for example).

At airports, malls, etc. I just use the seat liners and sit my ass down.

Add one of these to the nightstand and she's golden!

https://www.amazon.com/Travel-John-66911-TravelJohn-Disposable-Urinal/dp/B000NV878S/ (not an affiliate link)

sidebar: I really do recommend the Travel John. I put them in the glove boxes of our cars and my wife gave me such grief over it. "No one will ever use that!" It's designed so that men, women, and children can use it. Holds 28 ounces of liquid and has a solidifier in it that turns the liquid to a gel and deodorizes. Can be used for vomit in a crunch. But I recommend these for vomit https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JAGITMK/ Anyhow, I put the Travel John in the car and my wife chides me. One week later, the 5th grader (three years ago) was returning from a school trip to Washington, D.C. and the students are getting off the charter bus with yellow eyes because someone had clogged the toilet. No bathrooms in the parking lot where the buses gather and my son refuses to water a tree begging for a restaurant. We barely get the car down the road and he declares, "I'm not going to make it." I grabbed the Travel John and was immediately vindicated. My wife is totally on board and even complained when I took one camping and failed to put it back in the car.

But according to that, even if he had a portable urinal and used it in his car he'd be equally guilty. Sometimes laws are stupid.

Tip for girls- Buy a P mate off of amazon it was a life saver for me last year. Instead of having to sit on dirty seats in the port a pottys. I also used it at my campsite since we were far away from the bathrooms I just pissed in a water bottle with one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/P-Mate-Female-Disposable-Urine-Director/dp/B000R8YAH4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464905711&sr=8-1&keywords=pmate

This comes off completely as them making up a fake story in desperation, to get BMorg to turn around their decision. Why would you try to sell tickets on eBay? To catch a "rat" from the organization you claim to have friends in? The fuck?

Also raising my bullshit meter: selling on eBay is a contractual obligation. They would have legally HAD to sell those tickets to the highest bidder.

Sorry, this is a clear matter of fucking up—badly—and trying to cover for it. Poor show.

Here is what my wife bought for her pee funnel this year. Cheap. Reusable. Doesn't add to the landfill of plastic cups after BM. Sorry, PFC, you do a good service but this phony CYA gives me a poor feeling about you guys.