Reddit mentions: The best camping tent accessories

1. Get a hammock with straps, not rope. I recommend this one because it's cheap and includes the straps, plus it's 11 feet long (as opposed to less than 9' for an ENO. It's heavy and wide, but you aren't backpacking with it, so that's OK. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1F1IZU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
   
   
2. A lot of nights, you won't need an underquilt - until you do. I went camping on the 4th of July last year and was sweltering when I used mine. Ended up pulling it aside. Sure enough, about 4am, I was "freezing" at about 70 degrees and pulled my UQ back underneath. Get a 1 Season Jarbidge from Arrowhead Equipment or get this cheapie from Amazon - note that this is cotton. Not something I'd recommend for longevity or for backpacking, but it should work for a summer.
   
   
3. I'd shy away from camping top quilts as most of them aren't very breathable. They're designed to keep you warm and block wind. A traditional sleeping bag can work, but if it's nylon on the outside you're going to sweat like mad and that condensation is going to stay with you. Instead, try a cheap fleece blanket. It'll breathe and should be all you need for most of the summer. Switch to a 40 or 50 degree bag from walmart if you really need to go that low.
   
   
4. For that matter, stay away from anything down. Others have already mentioned the humidity. And it won't be cold enough to warrant spending the cash on down, anyway.
   
   
5. Mosquitoes suck. Get a bugnet. This one from Outdoor Vitals is inexpensive and will cover you on both sides, so the mosquitoes can't bite you even if you aren't using your Top Quilt/Under Quilt. It'll also add a couple of degrees on insulation, which kind of sucks sometimes, but helps others.
   
   
6. Keep a beanie with you. I keep my hair really short and I need one anytime I'm sleeping outside below about 70 degrees.
   
   
7. Misc. stuff - This isn't strictly necessary, but it's nice to have. Go to Dutchware Gear and get continuous loops, a ridge line, and a ridge line organizer. The ropes on that hammock are super bulky and heavy. I hate them. The ridge line will help you hang your hammock the same way every time, and will help make sure you have enough sag to get a nice, flat, diagonal lay. The organizer should be obvious. I keep my headlamp wrapped around the ridge line itself (Zebralight, check /r/flashlight for more good options), my phone in one pocket, knife/etc in another pocket, and a water bottle in the hammock pocket.
   
   
8. Get some good earplugs. Depending on where you are, you may want to be woken up in the event a 2 legged critter is approaching. If you don't worry about that, then the cicadas, crickets, and bullfrogs will keep you up until the roosters start crowing and the dogs start barking. Or maybe you'll be by a highway. Foam plugs are cheap, but I find them uncomfortable. Amazon sells some that you mold to your ear, but I haven't tried any of them. Instead, I visited PMS firearms and had "Granny" make me a set that fits my ears. They're the best I've ever used.
   
   
9. Edit: Forgot a tarp. I use this Chill Gorilla because it packs up small. If you've got the space, though, it's just as easy or easier to buy a 9x12, 10x12, or 12x12 tarp from walmart. I've used both this one and this cheap blue one and both are fine, strung up with some cheap paracord.

Give stoveless a try! It might not be for you, but it costs you nothing to give it a try. Here's a link with some tips: http://www.thehikinglife.com/2016/05/stoveless-hiking-q-a/

If it turns out you like it, the dollars spent per ounce saved ratio is off the charts ;)

What is "reasonable" in terms of cost vs weight saved is highly personal. Do you have a specific budget? If you said, "I have $100, what's the most weight I can save with that budget" people might be able to give you some more focused help. Climate is also important with recommendations. (Stoveless isn't going to work if you have to melt snow, many people find single wall shelters are unpleasant in extended cold, humid, rainy environments, etc.)

If you're interested in spending a bit of money, your tent is the obvious upgrade. Your tent + ground tarp weighs 63.17 oz.

Here's a few examples:

• SMD Skyscape Scout Budget single wall shelter, $100, 34oz
  
• Tarptent Notch ultralight double wall shelter, $285, 27oz
  
• Any of the various tarp + bug bivy combos usually hit a really good weight/cost combo if you are into tarp camping.

I own a few that I am more or less happy with. The 3mx3m from DD is a popular choice and shows up in quite a few YT videos. The Bushcraft USA storefront tarp is on order, and it shows up in more than a few YT videos. I also have owned the Yukon Outfitter walkabout, the Aqua Quest guide, and the Paria Siltarp. One of my more frequent hiking/bushcraft partners uses an SJK Satellite Tarp and she is very happy with it.

• DD Hammocks Tarp 3x3. Also available in a Superlight version.
  
• Bushcraft Outfitters 10x10. Proceeds help support the Bushcraft USA forums site.
  
• Paria Siltarp. Amazon link, non-affiliate.
  
• Aqua Guide Quest Tarp 10x10. Amazon link, not an affiliate.
  
• SJK Satellite Tarp. Can be found online or also at Cabela's.
  
  If you have access to a sewing machine, DIY is also an option. A tarp is pretty easy to sew, though I found the tieout reinforcements a little tricky at first--just practice a bit on some scraps. Ripstop By The Roll is a great source for fabric and other materials, as is /r/myog.

There's two routes you can go. The all together route, or you could do what I did. I got a 15% discount on gotyourgear on an ENO junglenest which got it down to about $73, and either buy, This which is just a tad short, but with enough sag 10ft should get all your hammock within it. I opted to sew my own tarp because I wanted a much larger one for sheltering two hammocks and keep my gear protected. Pretty good prices on silnylon. And Here are some simple [guides] (https://diygearsupply.com/diy-guides/tarps/) to make one on your own. For straps people opt for a shorter polyester webbing, coupled with whoopie slings. Atlas Straps are the easy way out if you don't want to modify your hammock, personally i'm happy with using all stock on my system, tried whoopies not a fan. I'm 6'2", singlenest will fit you perfectly, make sure to have plenty of sag when hanging your hammock, it may look wrong, but that how you achieve a flat lay. So either route you go, it basically boils down to if you want more customization with your equipment, or want something premade.

OP mentioned in a cross post that he's going to be doing the Nootka Island trail.

I think you'll be fine to tarp, the weather is only going to be coming from one obvious direction. The only thing I'd be concerned about is polycro as the tarp material, you might get some pretty good winds as you'll be exposed to the Pacific. That being said it could very well be calm the entire trip. If you do not think the tarp will be ok in high winds it would be worth it to take your tent for the peace of mind.

For sure print out a tide chart. You'd probably be fine without but it's so little weight and will help you make good decisions. If you're beach camping you should be able to tell where the previous high tide was and can use that + the tide chart to estimate where the tide will come up to and use that to prevent yourself from having to move camp in the night.

If I were you I would leave the daypack behind on this trip. If you do some exploring from camp just take your Exos and clip the hip belt behind you. You may also want some longer cordage, I don't think that Nootka has bear caches so you'll have to hang your food. Something like https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B078TPYMZY?th=1&psc=1 might be an option. Make sure to read up on how to deal with wolves if you're not familiar.

This was my packlist for the North Coast/Cape Scott trail earlier this year https://lighterpack.com/r/29ruyq.

Wow.

If you’re willing to leap decades ahead, join r/ultralight where these are all common ideas just using far more ‘modern’ and lighter materials

Why canvas and not silnylon? For $90, less than 2 lbs, and 10x12’ you can get a simple, starter one that is easily rigged in trees or with trekking poles. Sanctuary SilTarp - Ultralight and Waterproof Ripstop Silnylon Rain Shelter Tarp, ... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XJ7322N/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_i_g4zmDb4M4WFQ5

I’ve many heavy HF silver tarps. They last a long time.... few years covering the go kart with southern exposure.

Netting. Like this https://mountainlaureldesigns.com/product/mld-pyramid-innernets/ but far cheaper, no? If you search, you will find something like this .... US $9.72 23％ Off | Ultralight Bug Net Hammock Tent Mosquito Outdoor Backyard Hiking Backpacking Travel Camping Tent Hamac Rede Hamaca Hangmat
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/cFHOexTK

Knife? Just a single 3” lockblade for my backpacking. (EDC is a fat Victorinox.)

For sleeping bags in winter, just layer a down bag and a down quilt, add a vapor barrier liner inside, and many pads below. If you want DIY & cheap for the latter see https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/sweerek/diy-sleeping-pad-eps-accordian-27mar15

Or check out https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-sleeping-bag-down-cold-weather

Shifting from bushcrafter to UL is a big change in gear. Best book I know & recommend to my Scouts is... https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Hikers-Gear-Guide-Second/dp/1426217846/. Only $10 ish

I’m from MN. Love winter camping.

Here's my setup that I'm planning to use at the beach this year:

• Poles: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BSF1XGT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  
• Guylines: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M98TNHV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  
• Tarp: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C3NPCXC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  I got a hammock tarp because I use it in conjunction with my Tensa4 hammock stand, but that's not necessary for how you'd use it. Any tarp will do, and those poles are fantastic. They lock strongly and I've had them stay solid even in a 60+mph wind during a thunderstorm. If you wanted to you could buy 4 of them to maximize the amount of space being shaded, or you could even do 5 and have one in the middle pushing the tarp up for headroom- the poles include a rounded rubber end for just that purpose.
  
  The tarp itself is okay, the little plastic rings on the ridgeline tieouts snapped during that thunderstorm but the rest of it held together well enough. It's super cheap, though, so I wouldn't feel too bad about losing it. You could also use a regular ol' blue hardware store tarp.
  
  As far as guylines go pretty much anything will work, but for stakes I really do recommend those big, cheap, yellow plastic ones- they hold very strongly in dirt. You could also go with big metal Coleman ones if you wanted some more re-usability out of them.

I’ve had really good luck with these, they are wonderful and are super easy to set up.

TNH Outdoors 10X Aluminum Tri-Beam Tent Stakes and Bag - Made for Camping - Support A Start Up https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D2VHN5I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_so2LAbZXR0AM2

I was happy with my DIY shade solution this year. I bought a 13'x20' of aluminet with taped edges and grommets every two feet from Gothic Arch Greenhouses. I tied one long edge to a camper and elevated the other half of it with three Kelty adjustable poles, staked down with paracord tied to rebar.

The aluminet cooled things off enough that people were able to sleep in tents beneath it well into the afternoon (!). By the end of the week, the aluminet sagged enough that I had to stick a pole in the center, so I'm going to need to figure out a better way to keep it taut longer next year. Larger sheets of aluminet wouldn't work very well with this setup without several poles propping up the interior.

The total cost was around $250, and it packs down very efficiently. I also strung solar-powered fairy lights all around it, which provided a nice, gentle ambiance through the night.

So the poles themselves are actually a little larger/heavier (1.6 pounds) than I realized when I ordered, but I still think they will fit in our luggage okay and according to all the reviews saying these are the best poles out there, will hopefully be worth it. These are the poles: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001M0NVGC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is the shade tarp: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012FCG2Y8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yep, I was reading about the DIY down quilts and I may go that route. Right now i'm going to McGuyver a winter sleep system with my available resources before I start spending money. IDK if you've ever seen someone use a reflective tarp like UST hex tarps but it has the reflective properties like the emergency blankets. I have two of these and i'm going to see if I can use one as a rain fly that wraps around the top of the hammock and one that drapes the underside and covers it completely. I'm hoping to create a solid pocket of air to keep wind and temperatures out as well as get the reflective coating to keep in my own body heat. This is all just made up in my mind but if it works i'm going to pot it on this sub. The weight should just be 5lbs with everything and cost a 5th of the price.

oh, and thanks for letting me know the weight!

Are all of these recommended tarps really super awesome or is this just a case of people being elitist about their brand name equipment?


I've used this in numerous all out lightning thunderstorms and been perfectly dry, for $30.

https://www.amazon.com/UST-WG01613-BRK-Base-Hex-Tarp/dp/B00FB7XYXM

Remote beach and backpacking? Sorry man, either using trees at the edge of the beach, or going-to-ground is going to be a good bet. For car camping however, you have lots of options:

• I would like to mention these Kelty Adjustable Poles that are dope. I use them for my wing, and they are so solid. Great purchase.
  
  
• Any freestanding hammock stand is going to have to be strong, and unfortunately, "strong" equates to "heavy" pretty quick. So, don't expect some light, magically-portable kit. This thread at hammockforums details making an awesome metal bipod stand that I use almost daily. Check it out.

Check out the HammockGear Phoenix Econ 40. Paired with a Burrow Econ 40 you're only at about $220. Though if you already have a bag you're happy with, the Pheonix is only $90.

For a bug net you could make your own HUG or order one from AHE. $40 to buy.

An inexpensive reasonably good tarp option is the Bear Butt rain fly. Simple, and inexpensive at $30.

So a total of $160 for mid-quality gear. Or a total of $280 to include a top quilt.

HG's lead times are like 8 weeks, though. Might want to watch their In-Stock section if you want something from them sooner than late July.

Honestly, I would just save up your money and get something that is silnylon or silpoly. 25 oz for a tarp is really heavy. Look into Etowah Outfitters and maybe warbonnet (I think they have one ground tarp). The price will be higher, but if you could get a more packable, lighter tarp for $100-130 it'll be worth it IMO

Edit: here are some good alternatives, keeping price in mind:
Sanctuary SilTarp 10 x 8: https://www.amazon.com/dpB01E6454HOref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_n2-6xbP8MYM51

Same weight, cheaper: Equinox Egret Tarps (8 x 10-Feet) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00205GHZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_93-6xb309YGQT

I use the mini Groundhogs, they are very durable and I really like them. I have broken 1 over maybe 4-5 years, but that seems pretty minor considering how I take care of them.

There are some titanium options I've been considering, but I wouldn't upgrade until I lose one of my current stakes or something.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009M55QY4/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AJSWYKX5ODALO

Those would also work nicely in the snow as a deadman stake because of the holes.

IDK What sort of weather you'll be camping/hiking in, but this is a pretty basic list of gear that I would take if I were on a budget:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYHI24/?tag=ultrastuff-20

http://www.amazon.com/Suisse-Sport-Adventurer-Ultra-Compactable-Sleeping/dp/B001TR7QZA/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1408072994&sr=1-3&keywords=ultralight

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FB7XYXM/?tag=ultrastuff-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002COCF3M/?tag=ultrastuff-20

That's a bag, tarp, hammock and sleeping bag. They all have great ratings and should get you through just about anything.

Me, personally, I carry my hammock, a wool blanket and my tarp from http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/ ( http://www.bushcraftoutfitters.com/Coyote-Tarp-10x10-tarp-10x10-coyote.htm ) in my army surplus bag. I also carry my stainless steel pot and cup, cordage, zip ties, leather gloves, folding saw, axe and knife with me when I'm out in the woods. I have a "space blanket" too.

My pack could be lighter for sure, but everything I have serves a purpose.

Whenever you decided you want to get into campinp/hiking/bushcraft/whatever, decided what you really need/want to have with you. Don't just jam random "camping" supplies in your bag. Take your time, research and pack carefully. Your back will thank you.

The forecast called for it to be rainy with a chance of thunderstorms, so I wanted to make sure I had a place where I could cook with my stove and sit outside of my tent that was dry and out of the rain. It was basically a front porch.

I also just wanted to see how it went up, that was the first time I'd ever set up a tarp. I was given a hammock as a gift for my birthday and eventually that tarp will be used as part of a hammock-camping set-up once I get an under quilt so I wanted to familiarize myself with it. :)

Edit: Some things about the tarp, in case anyone is interested. The tarp weighs in at 13.5oz, which is pretty good for a budget tarp. Once you add the stakes its probably closer to a pound, but still not bad considering. It also has a reflective coating on the inside so It can be used as an emergency blanket in a pinch or used to signal if you're really desperate. All in all its an awesome bit of kit, one of my favorites considering it cost ~$30.

I have the Paria Sanctuary and I love it! Its your basic 8x10, no-frills tarp. It's big enough for me and my SO w/ some gear and it has the the added benefit of being super cheap ($79) but also good quality. Their website says that they should have some more back in stock at the end of the month, here's the page

Also: I agree that you're likely to find 13x13 too big unless you're tarping with 3+ people.

I'm just getting into tarps myself and found these two on amazon prime:

Silpoly: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B004RVHBLO

Silnylon: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01BFLREUQ

They're both about the same size. According to this guide silnylon stretches when wet but is lighter and stronger when new than silpoly, but silnylon loses strength when wet and over time due to UV rays. So silpoly is a bit heavier but lasts longer and is stronger over its life.

I'm probably going to pick the silpoly one, but both seem to be a better choice than the MEC tarp.

Sorry didn't see that.

Still would recommend saving your pennies for one if you can, it will definitely save you money in the long run.

If that is completely out of the question, maybe buy a cheap light weight 10x10 tarp off of Amazon to pair with a more affordable tent.

I have this tarp and love it. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01GQFW5RS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_m-GHDb2GS3XKY

The Noah's Tarp 16 foot seems like a good choice. For a tarp that size it's a good price at just under $90. Lots of tie out points if you need them. Since you're car camping the weight shouldn't be an issue.

I bought a 12 foot a while back for a similar purpose and it's been really great and totally waterproof so far.

• https://dutchwaregear.com/product/netless-hammock-sale/#suspension - This is the link for the hammock. Assuming a ridgeline (which you want), whoopies, and tree straps, it comes out to $76.50
  
• https://hummingbirdhammocks.com/shop/warbler-bug-net/ - The bug net is $39.95
  
• Tarp I see two cheap, proven options with better coverage than the ENO tarp both at $29: The Eastern Ridge tarp https://www.amazon.com/Camping-Hammock-Hex-Tarp-Lightweight/dp/B0744JT51J?th=1&psc=1 and the Bear Butt tarp https://www.amazon.com/Bear-Butt-Portable-Hammock-Shelter/dp/B01LLXZZ7M/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1527185851&sr=1-2&keywords=bear+butt+tarp&dpID=31AL%252BidohgL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch which
  
  Overall, the setup will be not only cheaper but more comfortable and durable than ENO and Kammock (I recommended Kammock because I like their fabric more than ENO but have the same shortcomings in terms of price, size and weight).

what is your main goal here? Do you need a cot? or are you looking at this saying comfortable, and offers protection? You could get a cot and pretty decent tent for that price. That thing is 25 lbs. My 8 person tent weighs the same and it's humongous. Depending how tall you are, you can get a pretty decent cot for $50, and a really nice tent for $120. it'd probably even be lighter, and just more practical. You could go this route. I think even this, a cot, plus a sizable tarp would probably be plenty of shelter, or orrrr strap this on top of a cot.

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I recently picked up this 3 x 3 meter tarp, It's fairly light & compact (23oz) and has worked out really well so far. It's not the cutting edge of tarp protection, (no center tie outs) but it also wasn't $250.00! I like it well enough that I've ordered another one for my brother.

Good luck!

Yeah, I'd not go for the super basic titanium stakes if you're going to be around a lot of rocks. I upgraded mine to titanium v-stakes personally - best grip to weight ratio I could find and I couldn't bend them by stepping on them (220lb guy). You still don't want to hammer titanium though and rocks are tricky.

My recent upgrade cost me $16 on Amazon w/ Prime and weigh ~67g for 6 of them, with ties replaced. However, I'm the only review on that product and my scale showed the weight was off, but with Prime's return policy I wasn't concerned. You could go with Toaks as well for a few bucks + grams extra.

If you're concerned about the durability and can spare an extra few ounces, just go with aluminum stakes of a v-shape or cross-pattern, both are good grip types. The nail types are really only for shaving a ton of weight.

Buy a better tarp. I just got mine from Amazon an hour ago lol. I got a "Chill Gorilla". I'm happy so far just pulling it out of the package.

I just pulled the trigger on this as well. I haven't had a chance to even set mine up yet, but I'm super excited.

I went with this:

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Survival-Technologies-BASE-Orange/dp/B00FB7XYRS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1420472921&sr=8-5&keywords=tarp+tent

I like it because I can use it to make a floor if I want, or just a really huge roof if I don't need a floor. The only downside is my tent has zippers and keeps my dog in the tent, not sure how I will manage that situation when I use this new tarp. I'm thinking the dog will just stay home.

Doing a week long trip in glacier national park in a couple of weeks. A friend is joining us last minute who is going to use our smaller quarterdome tent. That leaves me with a 20+ year old Eureka timberline. It's a great tent for car camping and short overnights but way heavier than I want for longer distance hiking.

On such short notice I was considering a Paria Outdoors tarp tent:
https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B01E6454HO/

However it'd be the first tarp tent for me and even with the inner mesh net they sell my girlfriend is freaking out that the tent will blow away or somehow magically attract bears.

Is there another model tent out there under $200 I could get quickly? Or am I better off trying to convince my girlfriend that tarp tents are fine and this is the one to get?

I think shes worried about being exposed to the elements and not having any privacy within the group while using this tent.

I recently bought a Chinese knock-off of the Big Agnes fly creek UL2 which normally goes for $250plus, from Aliexpress - called the Naturehike NH15T002-T, for $100 including shipping. I got the more expensive grey one due to it's supposed higher rain tolerance. I've used it a few times, in pretty ideal conditions but I'm really impressed with the quality of it. It came with real nice kinda Y-shaped stakes, it's own ground sheet and weighs 1.24 kg / 2.8 lbs (advertised weight). I haven't weighed it myself, but it's pretty bloody light. I haven't seen how it'll hold up in the wind/rain yet, but with mindful set-up I personally would have no qualms about using it in such conditions. I personally thought it was a risk to get, but I've been nothing but impressed by it so far.

EDIT: Oh, and just to say, I've tested it's two-person dimensions by going on some overnights with my partner. Plenty of room for two people - for reference I'm 5ft9, ~180 lbs and she's 5ft5, ~120 lbs. Also a small vestibule big enough for two packs (we had 1 ~60L and 1 ~40L pack).

For the cheap tarps, if you are looking for sinylon, this one worked out reasonably well for a 10x10 tarp. The other option, while heavier, is a blue poly tarp. 12'x8' is more or less a sweet spot if you are expecting any rain with winds. I still find mine getting used , even though I've added a superfly and cuben fiber tarp to my collection.

I really like 'doors' on my tarp. If you take a square tarp, and tie it in a similar configuration, you can get the same effect. You can create an area to tie onto with a rock.

https://dutchwaregear.com/product/netless-hammock-sale/#suspension

Little more than $30 as the $30price is just the body w/o continuous loops or anything. You'll want to add a structural ridgeline, the $7.50 option is fine, and the suspension I'd recommend is the Whoopie Hooks with 5ft Huggers for $39, bringing you up to $76.50 for hammock and suspension. The only downside to this is limited fabric color options.

https://hummingbirdhammocks.com/shop/warbler-bug-net/ i believe is the bugnet referenced, though Dutch also has some on his website as well. I personally have one of the Dutchware Bottom Entry ones and it works quite well.

https://www.amazon.com/Bear-Butt-Double-Hammock-Tent/dp/B07CGT15KX is the Bear Butt Tarp.

You can get a Yukon Outfitter hammock with bug net built-in (if you don't want it just flip the hammock over) for around $40-50s: https://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-Mosquito-Hammock/dp/B00BBY371S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468441131&sr=8-1&keywords=yukon+outfitters+hammock

You'll want a hammock tree strap which is REALLY handy. You won't need to do any knots or anything and it stays on there merely by tension with just one wraparound of the tree, and you won't need to worry about it not being sturdy enough compared to a cord. They're cheap, $8 dollars: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X2B14UO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then you can get a tarp around 10x10 feet for also around $30 (you might already have one since that's universal to tents and hammock). You don't need a heavy duty one, it's hanging in the air above your hammock barely coming into contact with anything, the one you linked in another comment looks heavy. You do want a big one in case of rain, so you'll have enough coverage b oth for your hammock and your gear. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AXV8VLU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_10?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1EF9OE38VX40W

Like isogreen42 said, just sleeping in a sleeping bag in a hammock will mean that you will quash the bottom of the sleeping bag, compressing the material and nullify the insulation, so you'll want an underquilt. You could just use an ultralight sleeping bag or a jungle blanket, and tie the 4 ends to a tree or the line from the hammock. I don't have a link for this one, I'm assuming you already have an ultralight sleeping bag. If you don't, any one you find on Amazon will do. I think I got mine around $15-30.

And then you'll be warm (unless it's down in the 30-40s) and you can just use another ultralight sleeping bag or jungle blanket as the top quilt / actual blanket. Again, $20-30s: https://www.amazon.com/SnugPak-92248-Snugpak-Jungle-Blanket/dp/B00CJFOAZK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468441187&sr=8-1&keywords=jungle+blanket

And then you should be set! So you're looking at...around $130? Not too bad for an experiment.

Thanks for posting. Great setup, especially the DIY custom sun shade with afforadable amazon poles Bravo!

Ok fair point. I'm pretty much guessing on the bear stuff, I've never had to deal with it. How's this for a line?

https://www.amazon.com/LiteOutdoors-Guyline-Tensioner-Kit-Lightweight/dp/B078TPYMZY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3I3I7LU1GB2GQ&keywords=dyneema%2Bcord&qid=1555263431&s=gateway&sprefix=dyneem%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

Somebody posted this a while back. Great deal. 8x10 would be good for two people.

In that case maybe something like
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01HO15DGS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1519355521&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=free+soldier+tarp&dpPl=1&dpID=41YpCmk5ToL&ref=plSrch#

I own this but can’t vouch for it just yet. I got it for Xmas and haven’t had the chance to use it yet sadly. It seems to be of a good quality build. It’s definitely not as lightweight as some of the other options out there though.

You can't get a full setup for $100. And basically that is because you need a rain fly and bugnet along with the hammock.
If I'm right, a Bear Butt hammock comes with suspension system and wll run you $30. I have a Honest Outfitters setup, which is basically the same. I only mention Bearbutt because so many people here talk about that. The bugnet should go for $30 as well. https://www.amazon.com/KING-OUTFITTERS-Diagonal-SECURITY-Mosquitoes/dp/B06XCRYKT5/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1525302662&sr=8-5&keywords=hammock+bugnet&dpID=412ao4NG4bL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
That's what I have.
And the tarp. Well that can be very pricy if you worry about weight. Silnylon is what to go for here but they are costly from what I could tell.
I'll be buying a new tarp soon enough, for now I have a $45 fairly heavy one because I had winter in mind. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HO15DGS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then there is the insulation. An underquilt is something you may want, but that all depends on where you camp. I mean, how cold will it get at night. Cold butt syndrome is not something you want to deal with.
But a UQ can run you a good $70 for a 40 degree one. Let alone the ones for colder weather.
So, Hammock, bugnet, tarp and perhaps underquilt. With that, you should be good for summer camping to start you off. So for the $100 you can camp, but aren't insulated. I hope this helps you a little.
Mind you, I am not an expert. I only started late last year with hammocks. I'm just telling you what I did. Which, I'm afraid is not lightweight compared to the $400 setups.

Edit, my hammock https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N7DX0J7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've been using this tarp with an eno single for several months now. Been pretty happy with it so far.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FB7XYRS/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apip_jX2sj4MWh1cmL

Cool!

There's also some middle-ground. Some companies that make much more reasonably priced rainflies. I have not tried them though, so I can't personally say if they're any good. But I bet they're better than a simple tarp. So you don't have to go all or nothing. :)

http://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Outfitters-Walkabout-Rainfly-Hammock/dp/B00MGYU38W

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Survival-Technologies-BASE-Orange/dp/B00FB7XYRS

Tarp:

Option 1: https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B06XJ7322N/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1538600945&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=ul%2Btarp&th=1&psc=1

Option 2 (more durable): https://www.amazon.com/DD-Tarp-3m-Olive-Green/dp/B005FPN7GE/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601289&sr=1-3&keywords=dd+tarp

Bug net: https://www.amazon.com/Breeze-Mesh-Tent-Ultralight-Backpacking/dp/B01NA9BU4Q/ref=pd_bxgy_468_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01NA9BU4Q&pd_rd_r=a541965e-c750-11e8-83ba-35492fd40af5&pd_rd_w=5VWOY&pd_rd_wg=3uCes&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3f9889ac-6c45-46e8-b515-3af650557207&pf_rd_r=X7JJ3Y8J81XVAAR36D9Y&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=X7JJ3Y8J81XVAAR36D9Y

Quilt: http://www.hammockgear.com/burrow-econ-40/ (get a warmer one if you need it)

Sleeping pad: https://www.amazon.com/Therm-Rest-Original-Ultralight-Camping/dp/B00453NA1E/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601159&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=thermarest+zlite+sol&psc=1

You will need trekking poles for the tarp/tent or save a few bucks and find a couple of sticks when you get there!

Trekking poles: https://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-Hiking-Walking-Trekking/dp/B007YT854S/ref=sr_1_3_acs_ac_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1538601222&sr=1-3-acs&keywords=trekking+poles

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Pack: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-granite-gear-crown-x60

Okay, I got this.

G4Free 40L backpack - $18.99


Paria Sanctuary Sil Tarp - $79.99


Polycro ground sheet - $7.98


Sleep pad - $16.79


Down throw - $31.95


Ultralight, summer set up straight from Amazon for about $150.


edit: oops, you said no tarp. You could add the bug net for $65 and be at ~210 for an ultralight, modular set up. Could also subtract the polycro sheet and save a few bucks if you buy the inner net.

So it's mostly custom, actually!

The roof basket is this one.

The canopy is just a 6'x8' generic tarp I picked up at a surplus store. The mounting hardware is an aluminum L bracket from Lowes with U-bolts securing it to the basket. Drilled holes in the bracket that lined up with the tarp grommets, then bought some nuts and bolts to secure the tarp to the bracket.

After that, I picked up these adjustable poles, some guy-line, and stakes to complete the setup! Takes maybe 5-10 minutes to set up. While not as elegant as an actual retractable awning you can buy, it was a fraction of the cost. And fun to make!

That is pretty sweet! I'm trying to find siltarp in Canada or places that sell it here in Canada dollars so I don't have to pay a fortune for customs but I'm having a hard time.

Edit: Found this https://www.amazon.ca/Aqua-Quest-Guide-Medium-Green/dp/B004RVHBLO. Not sure if I can do better or not. Don't know much about siltarps yet.

I've found better tarp options on amazon but this tarp is about half the cost and about half the weight. Set it up on the ground with a pair of cheap trekking poles. If you need bug protection you could grab a net tent off amazon for 10-15 bucks; use it as-is or cut it up to use as a perimeter netting.

This type of setup is less than two pounds packed weight and still less than the solitaire, more living space, better ventilation. You can sit up and cook under it. Sleeps two if you're netting is large enough...

Have you thought of using a tarp set up? Super versatile and light as well. If you use hiking poles (I don’t myself) there is more set ups you can do.

Links for he stuff I use below. All reliable in bad weather. You can get a cheaper bivvy but the Snugpak stay pretty breathable while still staying waterproof. Just tie bug net to your peg bag and dump peg bag on pole if needed at all.

If you sleep in forest area the world is your oyster though

https://youtu.be/yMAtpWQdVbY for a setup demo



DD Tarp 3m x 3m - Olive Green - Lightweight, Versatile & Tough Tarp/Basha https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005FPN7GE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Fo0gDb76532WQ

Snugpak Special Forces Bivvi Bag... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001LZ5M7Y?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Odoland Tent Peg 10PCs Tent Nail/Tent Stake with reflective Rope, Carabiner, Scale, Y-shaped, lightweight durable anodized Alumina, for Outdoor Camping,Beach and Sand https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01GHP51KA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_N80gDbTBBXARV

https://www.seatosummit.co.uk/products/bug-nets/nano-mosquito-pyramid-net-permtherin/

https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/accessories-c10/tent-pegs-poles-c11/tarp-pole-115-p3902

Second. It definitely sounds like a tarp.

There a few varieties of tarps:

• One one hand there are light-weight specialty tarps like this one
  
• And there are more general tarps like this one which are more bulky, but much less expensive
  

Just to throw an oft-repeated comparison out there, if hammock coverage is your goal than the Yukon Outfitters Walkabout is 11'10" x 9'4". It has fewer guyout points than the Kelty as it is an asym tarp meant specifically for hammock usage. However, it has an integrated ridgeline seam and weighs 10 ounces less than the 9' Kelty and 22 ounces less than the 12' Kelty. It's only $40, but it shows up on Woot now and again for around $20 (which is where and when I last bought one). The Bear Butt is very similar... suspiciously similar, but only $30. If weight and packed size are your concern, this is a small additional outlay.

If you want a flat tarp for non-hammocking purposes the Kelty is an excellent deal. There are lighter options out there for cheap, but not as cheap as this... At the moment. Sanctuary or Bear Paw Designs are usually at the bottom of the price ladder and will be significantly lighter and pack smaller at around a $70-$80 price point.

I'm just pointing out that the Noah's Tarp may very quickly become an intermediary purchase for people once they realize that lighter/better options are out there and financially within reach, and this one sits in a tote in the basement forever thereafter.

If you don't care about the weight, jump on this deal. Bet you it won't last.

Paria tarp is $65-80, depending on which shape you get. These are good quality budget options. The hex tarp versions are designed for hammocks.

https://www.pariaoutdoorproducts.com/collections/camping-tents-backpacking-tent/products/silnylon-tarp-sanctuary-siltarp?variant=203901468692

Also available on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B0763SQJL4/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=paria%2Btarp&qid=1557601375&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

I'm thinking a silnylon tarp (maybe something like this?) https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B0763SQJL4/ for the top.

For the ground sheet I'm renovating my house and have a lot of 6 mil polyethylene sheeting (https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-20-ft-x-100-ft-Clear-6-mil-Plastic-Sheeting-CFHD0620C/204711640 or similar) around so I figured I could just cut maybe 6x8 feet of that out and be good. I just want to keep my bag/pad and any gear inside the shelter off wet ground.

I use a Kelty Noah's tarp 9' size. Usually with a hammock. It's spendy for a tarp but the catenary cut, multiple tie-outs and versatility make it worth the cost. It's plenty large for two, can be used on the ground or with a hammock, and can be hung in a hundred ways. It's light and easy to pack. I never carry trekking poles, and never have a problem finding a stick in my neck of the woods if the setup requires it.

Best guy line I’ve found so far.

Couple of small suggestions that unfortunately add a tiny bit of weight.

I'd swap out one or two of your tent stakes, I hiked with an Altaplex and the shepherds hook stakes didn't grip enough for the front guy line causing the tent to collapse a couple of times in strong wind.

I used the MSR Mini Groundhogs otherwise something like Toaks titanium V shaped should be pretty good.

Also if you haven't yet bought the spork I'd swap it for a long handled one so you can reach in to Mountain House style meals without getting covered in food.

You sound like you approach it all the same way I do.

I have the small geertop one from your link, it packs up to the size of an apple. It's a good ground sheet just slightly larger than my pad. Even the large one would make for a decent tarp if it weren't so small.

I've got this one with its incredibly stupid name across one corner, and I like it just fine. Water beads off of it, it has decent tie outs that haven't torn yet. Yet, of course.

I think hikers prefer silnylon simply for its weight, plain and simple.


The way I look at it with a bushcraft perspective is: it's going to eventually get fucked up by your own fault in some regard while you're out, and that'd really bum ya out with a $120 tarp. It wouldn't bum ya out with an 8 dollar crunchy poly tarp, but having to deal with one in the first place is a bummer in and of itself.
To me, a 40 dollar tarp is the perfect balance of risk and reward.

I got this from amazon and it holds up well, although it's heavy as hell so I only car camp with it.

Check out r/hammockcamping as well. They can definitely offer some good suggestions.

1.5 lb, two-person net tent - $40

1 lb, 8x10 tarp with guylines and stakes - $80

Total - $120 and 2.5 lbs for a non-free standing setup (need hiking poles). Enjoy!

I use these. Live in Arizona and most of the ground I camp on is pretty hard. I've bashed them with rocks many times and so far haven't had any failures.

edit: Just noticed that they only seem to have the XL size for sale at that link right now. The ones I got were the regular size.

Other, maybe better options
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E6454HO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fmWyzbB8AX8A0


http://bushcraftoutfitters.com/bco-tarps/10x10/

The tarp is the Slumberjack Roadhouse Tarp. I didn't have any inclement weather so I can't say how well it would do; this was my first time setting it up and learning to use it.

It took about 5 mins to setup and it packs up pretty conveniently. The tent poles it comes with were heavy so I ditched those for some Ridge Outdoor Adjustable Tarp Poles and they're much lighter.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FPN7GE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A2WBS01FGLRMAC&psc=1

Or just get a cheap 10x10 at a store and see if you even like it.

Now I'm looking at this tarp because I can get prime shipping on it and hopefully two day shipping. Any thoughts?

So I have been working on my totem since the lineup dropped. All put together and fully extended its 9 ft but collapsed it’s about 3. I used this telescoping pole and it’s absolutely perfect for the job. Not sure how easy it will be to get it in though!

There's this on Amazon for only US$70. It's 10' x 7' though

If you are looking at a hammock setup, I wouldn't go for what you have listed, it's pretty heavy and you will move on from that quickly. I just built a modular hammock setup that comes in just a little over 2lbs for $200. It uses no hardware, just a becket hitch to attach the straps to the continuous loop. Don't know the name of the knot I use to tie up the tarp, but many can be used.

Hammock $30: Wide Netless Hammock from Dutchwaregear with continuous loops and ridgeline

Tarp $80: Hexagon Siltarp from Amazon

Bugnet $57: Bottom entry bugnet from dutchwaregear

Suspension $25 UHMWPE Straps from dutchwaregear

The only additional things you need is an underquilt/pad and a quilt/sleeping bag.

If you are trying to sleep two people. I would get two hammocks, maybe a bigger tarp, and dutchwaregear offers a double bugnet. Sleeping two people in one hammock all night is not going to be comfy.

I bought the footprint with my tent, used it once, and it's sat in my closet ever since. Might come in handy if you're camping on rocky surfaces where the tent could get damaged, but here in Florida is basically sand/grass and I'm not concerned.

The stakes it comes with are not good, get something skookum like these that will hold the tent in high winds if a storm ever blows through.

http://amzn.com/B009R9FTW4

I got my set up and it's within your budget.

Hammock:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00UFIBVHI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Straps:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B012M6FXUQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Tarp:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00FB7XYRS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://imgur.com/a/3CGsT

For 8x10 silnylon 20d https://www.shop.backpackingadventuregear.com/Special-8x10-Silnylon-Tarp-Special-8x10-silnylon-tarp.htm

For 8x8 or 11x 6.5 hex silpoly 20d https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Vitals-Ultralight-Hammock-Shelter/dp/B01N5PCZH4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=silpoly%2Btarp%2Bultralight&qid=1565701251&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

For 30d silnylon in many sizes https://www.amazon.com/Sanctuary-SilTarp-Ultralight-Waterproof-Backpacking/dp/B0763SQJL4/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=silpoly+tarp+ultralight&qid=1565701477&s=gateway&sr=8-5

For 20d larger silpoly tarps https://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/tarps/

All but the last under 100usd

Aqua Quest Guide Sil Tarp - 100% Waterproof & Ultralight RipStop Nylon Material - 10 x 7 ft Medium / Small - Compact, Versatile, Durable Backpacking Tarpaulin - Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RVHBLO/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_5b1Mxb8MG9BFV

You can look at UST or Eastern Ridge Tarp as decent budget options.

https://www.amazon.com/UST-Tube-Camping-Shelter-Orange/dp/B00FB7XYRS

And if you can go a little higher to 60 bucks, check out the Chill Gorilla Pro-tent tarp or the costlier Kelty Noah.

UST base hex. Light, extremely durable and waterproof.

You could always try a Kelty noahs tarp.
Here
There are a few different sizes.

This is essentially the same thing.

http://www.amazon.com/Kelty-41981003-Adjustable-Tarp-Pole/dp/B001M0NVGC

Might be available on Amazon.ca

You will need two of them I think at minimum. Do some research on how to rig a tarp with poles, and you will need to practice some to get it down. It is a little bit of art and science. I am still learning, but there are a ton of videos and guides to use for reference.

If you're on a budget, you could look into this. I picked one up a a few months back, though I haven't had the chance to try it out yet.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Survival-Technologies-BASE-Orange/dp/B00FB7XYRS/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1431121380&sr=1-3&keywords=chinook+tarp
Does anyone have this tarp? It's pretty damn cheap, but I don't want to buy it and discover it's crap.

I bought an 8'x10' $80 sil-nylon tarp on amazon (https://amzn.to/2HbQ0z7) that I use with my bivy when I think there's going to be rain. My OR Alpine bivy is awesome, but getting in and out of one (and unpacking/dressing) just standing there in the rain is absolute hell.

The amount of people you can put underneath it depends a bit on how horrible the weather is. If it's not windy you can pitch it rather horizontal and then you could put a banquet underneath. But if it's blowing hard then you need to put one end down to keep the rain from coming in sideways and that reduces the overhead size. If it's whipping around super nasty you need to stack everything down and then it's no bigger than a small a-frame tent. But having something spacious in terrible weather is basically expedition gear so no surprise there.

There are some neat tarp pitches you can do, depending on the size, weather, and trees/poles: https://sectionhiker.com/square-tarp-pitches/

I've used it once in patient land to keep some rain off a dude while packaging, and when backpacking I dig it because short rain storms can just turn into a break where you spend 5 minutes popping the tarp up, having lunch, and waiting it out nice and dry.