Reddit mentions: The best climbing carabiners & quickdraws

There’s a guy who replaced the two-piece steel spreader bars with DIY three-piece carbon fiber spreader bars, to make it lighter and pack down smaller… I haven’t done anything nearly so ambitious, but I’d like to give it a try sometime.

You will have to get a suspension system if you don’t have one already. I use these carabiners and Kammok Python Straps. You might need something different if you’re not hanging from trees, but the hammock doesn’t come with any kind of suspension system.

I set mine up with a four-foot Nite Ize Gear Line between the two attachment points at the top. Useful for storing small items out of the way (so they don’t end up sliding under your butt). It can’t take anything heavy, but I hang my keychain, glasses, headlamp, hat, gloves, etc. I also threaded the line with some battery powered fairy lights. It’s small, simple, lightweight, and bright enough to light the whole tent/hammock when I need it, without having to put on my headlamp. Maybe not bright enough to read by, but I read eBooks on my phone. The nice thing is, the Gear Line and lights can just be left in place and packed away with the hammock.

The inside has velcro anchor tabs along the perimeter. I use them to anchor some Reflectix under me as insulation. It really helps on any night below about 68 ℉ (which means most nights, even in summer), and the anchor points mean I don’t wake up to find the pad flipped around on top of me… again. I just used some velcro to connect to the hammock, flat bungee cord, and plastic tarp clips on the reflectix pad. I like having the pad just in case I have to stake it out on the ground as a tent. An underquilt would just flatten out and be useless. The Reflectix also acts as a barrier between me and the hammock fabric, so even if something pointy and metal ends up under me, it will only damage the pad, not rip through the hammock. My multitool, for example, likes to find its way out of my pocket. Metal rivets in jeans and metal zippers on hiking pants are also a concern… though the fabric is probably tough enough, I don’t want to risk it. The Reflectix is a nice padded barrier.

Just today, I rigged up an underquilt using… another hammock! A cheap rope/net hammock under the underquilt provides just the right kind of flexible tension across the whole bottom of the hammock to keep the quilt up under me. Like I said, I only just set it up today, so I still have to test it out overnight, but it seems to be working better than anything else I’ve tried so far (which always leaves an air gap, making the underquilt useless—especially as the hammock flexes). With spreader bar hammocks, underquilts are tough. This solution seems like it will work.

Lastly, I’ll mention simple DIY self-tensioning guylines. You can guy out this hammock to reduce swaying if you don’t like to swing in the hammock, or if it’s really windy, OR if you just find it too tippy and you’re afraid you’ll fall out. The self-tensioning lines allow for some give as the hammock moves, while still preventing you from freely swinging or tipping. I find it pretty stable and almost never use the guylines, but on windy days it’s nice to have so I’m not randomly swaying in the wind all night.

The length of it is somewhat deceptive because it's folded in half. It's made of TITAN Survivorcord of the dragonscale variety and the total length is probably around 20 inches when unfolded, including the length of the two Metolius FS mini carabiners. I used the trilobite weave, and I believe it took about 30 feet of cord to make. I'm unsure because I don't know the length of the original hank I used.

I used to have a different one, but I made some design changes on this one that I feel are more effective when using a good, strong weight-rated material like 550 paracord.

Originally I wove around my keyring on one of the ends. This made adding and removing things from my keys somewhat difficult, so I scrapped that idea and just added a second carabiner. I also changed the type of carabiner I used. Originally I had a Nite-Ize one you can get at any Wal-Mart. They're only rated to hold 75 pounds so it seemed relatively pointless to have it attached to such a strong material and not be able to use it in that way, which is why I switched to the aforementioned Metolius.

One other thing I thought of now that I'm using two carabiners: I made it so they're horizontally symmetrical instead of congruent when I fold the lanyard and attach both carabiners to my keys. This idea was inspired by the S-biner, because when you slide a keyring through both clips of the S-biner it makes it impossible to accidentally open the gate and have them slide out. Basically, now my keys are double locked and I don't have to worry about them falling out if I somehow put pressure on one of the gates.

Lastly, instead of burning the tips into the back of the lanyard like I did last time, I decided to tie them into a knot and then burn them into the knot so as to not compromise the strength of the main body.

Am I ever going to need to climb with this? Probably not. But it's nice to have something pretty seriously strong if ever needed. This thing is like a portable ladder rung. I might add some ranger bands just to keep the fold compact, maybe also add some gizmos to the ranger bands on the outside, like a compass or something. I will say that it's a bit bulky but it still fits in my pocket just fine.

You can make those biners work, they are by far not the best, but they will work. The optimum shape is oval.Something like this is far better for safety and line wear . A girth hitch is faster and uses less hardware. It also reduces the break strength by more than half . Using any knot will load the fibers unevenly and lead to premature wear and possible system failure. If you can find them, you can use a chain link with a 1-1.25 inch inner diameter. Just file down any burs and make sure it is loaded correctly each time. You could also make a shackle and pin lock if you have access. They are some of the absolute best home made locks.
There are many ways to slackline and it is super awesome that you are getting advice so early on. Like you, I didn't have any other slackers to learn from and made some pretty nasty mistakes. Broken bones, concussions, hundreds of dollars in gear destroyed. All because I didn't know what the hell I was doing. If I have any advice from all of my failure, it would be, Do it right the first time. Cutting corners and saving a few minutes can cost you a lot more in the long run than just doing it the safe way.
Here is a list of some good places to start learning if you are serious about slackstuff.

A good but in no way complete list of webbing and stats

Some line load physics

Destructive testings

What is shock load?

Some different pulley configurations

Winds effects on slacklines

A super easy, bombproof homemade line lock

The big daddy tension systems

A super handy anchor knot

If you have any more questions feel free to ask.

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Hi! So, the basics for indoor climbing could be narrowed down to:
Shoes! (I don't recommend buying aggressive shoes, go for something comfortable, eg. 5.10 Rouge, La Sportiva Tarantula, etc.)
Harness! (Assuming you'll be sport climbing) Black Diamond makes fantastic harnesses, Petzl too but they're a bit more expensive.
ATC/Grigri Many people swear by the Grigri, myself included but I think beginners should learn how important is to properly use an ATC, it'll be an indispensable piece of gear, pretty much any ATC will work, a grigri can be an upgrade for your birthday ;)
Chalk bag. Get a funky one, have fun.

Whenever you transition into outdoor climbing you'd be looking to buy around 6-12 Quickdraws, there are hundreds of options, Petzl and BD are bomb proof. If you don't wanna spend a ton I recommend Mad Rock's Concorde https://www.amazon.com/Mad-Rock-Concorde-Express-Set/dp/B00BIUXR88/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495070844&sr=8-1&keywords=Mad+Rock+quickdraw

ROPE! This is where many people will tug you around saying a thinner or thicker is better, just get a good rope between 9.4mm and 9.8mm 60 Meter rope, you'll be fine, big look for brands like BD, Petzl, Blue Water ropes, Sterling, Mammut, Fixe Roca, etc etc... and that's it!

ALSO, forgot to add, a PAS (Personal Anchor System) again, your SO will have to see which type, Metolius sells this one:
http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/pas_personal_anchor_system.html

Or you can build one yourself with some cordellete
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R9-EBU-EPs


Depending on sales and all that, the indoor stuff will cost you arouuuuund
$70-100 USD Shoes
$50 harness
$25 ATC
$10 Chalk bag

For the outdoor
$120 - $200 on 12 Quickdraws
$150 - $200 for a 60m rope.
$15-30 PAS


Good Luck!

Edit: added the PAS info.

it's likely not unsafe for belaying with an atc (never said it was "unsafe"... just using that choice along with the alpine harness picked to gauge overall skill level and overall ambition. the extra harnesses imply that she was going to be a mentor for people without gear.), but no climber I have seen uses one. The d shaped locker that she listed is very narrow and when used to rappel on two ropes has the two strands at two different parts of the nose and very staggered. I also think it might crossload easier because of the shape of it. All I am saying is that someone with the proper knowledge and skills to keep other people safe probably wouldn't choose a small D as a belay carabiner. (I have that exact d shaped biner and it's nice enough for clipping bolts but not as a belay carabiner.)

the petzl attache is a smallish pear shaped that works well or the bigger hms style is another style that works well. The HMS has the benefit that you can throw a munter hitch on it and belay/rappel with that if you ever dropped your atc.

The rocklock works better and is cheaper:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-Rocklock-Screwgate-Carabiner/dp/B000LGJFYK/ref=pd_sim_sg_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=0TMRPYCASWKZ3ZC5AXRT

or the package deal:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-Package-Device-Locking/dp/B000FNB0WY

The williams is another one that is nice and would be a good belay carabiner.

Congratulations on the new rig! I strongly recommend, though, that you consider getting oval non-locking carabiners instead. Those Black Diamond screw-lock HMS carabiners will work, but you will be cross loading them. HMS carabiners are meant to be loaded at the spine and nowhere else, whereas oval carabiners are intended to be loaded at the basket. A slackline will always spread the load out away from the spine.

Also, there's no style of carabiner more convenient to use for a slackline than an oval. When putting tension on the primitive, the ovals naturally center the lines to overlap each other. When I used to rig with HMS's, I found that the lines could slide out from under each other if when I was less attentive to pull direction, which often prevented locking of the tension and multiple grumbling resets.

So far, my favorite biner for primitive is the "Rollerbiner". While most Americans I've talked to don't think they work, Rollerbiners seem to have had great success for Europeans.

Otherwise, Camp Oval carabiners are the next best bet. Camp's biners are just as strong as the next brand, but their oval carabiners don't have that pesky hook nose for the gate. Instead, their ovals have a keygate, which is a significant improvement, aside from convenience, in the safety and longevity of a slackline. Hook-nose carabiners have the tendency to grab, and, in some cases, cut your line, whereas keygate carabiners never have these issues.

*edit: grammar

On the suspension question - It's fine, the slap straps are strong and do their job. The downside is that the loops on the slap straps are about every 6 inches, so it might be hard to get that "just right" hanging... I used the slap straps for my first year and I was fine, I'd focus on other aspects for the time being. One other quick point, if you are looking to cut weight down the carabiners that come with the ENO are steel and heavy, those are easily replaced. If you want to get into more weight cutting and more advanced suspension system I would look at the whoopie sling, that's what's en vouge right now, I just got my slings but have not had a chance to use them yet.

just like satty said, you're going to lose warmth rating due to compression on the sleeping bag. I find this true with down and synthetics alike. Unlike sleeping on the ground you're going to really feel the wind if it's cold and windy. I can vividly remember freezing through a 30 degree night in a 30 degree bag with no sleeping pad. Sleeping pads will help a lot, so would a UQ. I just saw the pea pod setup a month ago on here, and I'm dying to try it out, let us know how it works out!

a tarp or a rainfly, properly rigged, should keep rain out in 'normal weather'. that tent looking tarp you found looks cool, not sure exactly what it is... I know that some people rave about the warbonnet tarps, I bought a ENO tarp when I got my hammock, I wish I had gotten a warbonnet in hindsight, but the ENO works fine for me. It's nice to have the privacy as well as the wind guard, so I usually use the tarp even in good weather.

Enjoy the hammock and take some pictures for us!

Here you are!

http://www.reddenmarine.com/commercial/seine-gear/rings.html

Then a carabiner is about 5-10 dollars. I love this one, but I'm only now getting into it:

http://www.amazon.com/Fusion-Ovatti-Screw-Locking-Carabiner-Black/dp/B008KEC71S/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1462529489&sr=8-4&keywords=fusion+carabiner

I've read that oval is better, but I've also heard you want flat ends. Up to you I guess.

If you don't care about vertical space, get one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Fusion-Delta-Swivel-Black/dp/B00AEL8KX4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462529556&sr=8-1&keywords=swivel+climbing

If you do care about vertical space, get this:
http://www.amazon.com/Fusion-Shackle-Swivel-Black/dp/B008KEDXXO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462529588&sr=8-1&keywords=fusion+shackle

Being a poor college student, I've done a good bit of research on the best bang for the buck for suspension equipment :)

Have fun

> I was inspired by this post to add something to my carabiner to prevent keys from coming off... so i ordered this kit [SEARCH ali ex for 200PCS/set Rubber O Ring Assortment kit] of various size o-rings. I don't know why I didn't realize but you can get similar kits for under $2 on aliexpress. Then I just fed 3 o-rings of the right size through one another so that they couldn't come apart and put it on my carabiner.
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> the result is that the keys don't slide and won't come off unexpectedly, but are very easy to take off when you want to. since the o-rings come in a bunch of sizes I could use it for any of my carabiners and have plenty of replacements if they ever wear out. for $2 i'd say its a worthy upgrade to any carabiner.
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> if you like this you might be interested to know that they do sell captive eye carabiners like these but I've never found a compact one since they are all meant for belaying I think. the o-ring approach does basically the same thing for even the small carabiners

I took the liberty to edit OP's post so that it won't get caught in the spam filter. See OP's profile for the original.

This is a pretty good start. I've put together a couple of notes.

• The duct tape you listed is a rip off. What I did for my bug out bag was buy a roll of duct tape, then wrap it neatly around a pencil.
  
  
• Instead of a SOG fixed blade knife, you might consider spending $20-$30 more and getting a ka-bar. I've personally had bad experiences with SOG and love the ka-bars I have. If you go this route, be sure to find a true ka-bar... there are a bunch of fakes out there.
  
  
• For radios, I would get something more versatile. The downside to the one you listed is they don't support many bands. Also, I may be wrong, but I'm very suspicious of the 35 mile range that is listed. The BaoFeng UV-5R is a hidden gem that does everything the motorola you've listed does and a whole lot more. the only downside is you need a HAM license to operate one legally (assuming you are in the US) https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV-5R-Dual-Radio-Black/dp/B007H4VT7A
  
  
• The carabiners you've listed don't appear to be CE or UIAA certified for climbing. Here is a link to a set I recently bough that are both CE and UIAA rated and are more than strong enough for climbing with equipment. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N6DD42Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc
  
  
• 550 paracord would do the same job as the speciality shoe laces you've listed for cheaper.
  
  
• You can make your own snare kits, fishing kits, and first aid kits for much, much cheaper that what is in your list.
  
  
• I personally would skip the bit kit unless you have a very specific need.
  
  
• The "Maxpedition Single Sheath" is very expensive for what it is. You can find something equivalent for about 1/4 the price.
  
  
• The bag you've listed may not be big enough for all of your gear. This is difficult to gauge, but your choice of bag is important.
  
  All that being said, I think you've done a good job of planning and selecting products that will be useful. I've been waiting on my wife to put together a sewing kit, but your post has spurred me to buy one instead (I don't think she's ever going to get around to it)....(this is the one I ended up buying: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015L46N96/ref=pd_luc_rh_sbs_02_01_t_img_lh?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1).
  
  Thanks and best of luck with your prepping!

Brand new climber here - been to the local rock gym twice and I'm hooked. Will be doing indoor stuff only with my girlfriend about once a week.

I picked up a pair of 5.10 shoes today, and am looking at getting my own belay device and carabiner. The popular stuff on Amazon is all the Black Diamond stuff. Just wondering if it's any good - it's pretty inexpensive. The recommended belay carabiner is $12, and for something this important I don't mind spending more for a higher quality (safer) locking one. This is the one I'm looking at:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-Rocklock-Screwgate-Carabiner/dp/B000LGJFYK

With this belay device:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Diamond-ATC-Belay-Device/dp/B004GYD8H8

Are these any good? I have no problem spending whatever on a better setup if it's safer and will last a while. I do a lot of other outdoor sports and I know that some of the entry level gear can be a bit on the cheaply made side and I don't want to risk something breaking to save a few bucks.

Thanks!

Edit: I know this has to be the most asked question on here, so apologies in advance..

If possible, the best possible solution is to just actually dog-proof your house, or at least an area you can section off. Otherwise, if you can afford one, I'd say get her a big outdoor kennel. If you're committed to her being tethered, at the very least get her a secure but comfortable harness, I use this one when I take my 70 lb husky out. Also get something with a locking mechanism (think like this) to use with any spring clips, because trust me, the dog can get it undone, mine has twice. I know how scary this is, I learned the hard way that my dog can also clear a 6' fence, I hope you figure something out!

Gander Mtn has ENO Atlas Straps, but their climbing carabiner stock is nearly nonexistent. You may as well go to amazon for those.
Here's a good one,
https://www.amazon.com/Omega-Pacific-Oval-Straightgate-Bright/dp/B000UKUOSI/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1466554868&sr=1-2&keywords=carabiners
Whatever you get, make sure they're good climbing rated ones. They're rated in KiloNewtons and 1KN is about 225 Ft-Lbs of force, this one is rated at 22 KN, so not quite 5K Ft-Lbs. Plenty strong for hammocking.

Here's the deal: you're just starting out. Any gear is good gear.

• Harness, belay device, etc: Buy one of these, or the similar package from Petzl. If you really want a GriGri fine, but I'd argue that you should learn on an ATC and buy a GriGri later if you want one.
  
• Draws: You'll probably find Mad Rock draws the cheapest, buy two 6-packs of those and you're good. Unless you're projecting long 5.13s you don't need 16 Petzl Spirit Express draws.
  
• Rope: Don't buy anything smaller than 9.8. If you're just climbing in the gym to start, maybe consider buying a 10.2 30-40m "gym cut" rope. Then when you're ready to move outside, buy a 60-70m 9.8, 9.9, or 10.2. Thicker ropes are a bit heavier, but are much more durable, easier to work with (arguable safer for new climbers), and will probably last you longer.
  
• Rope bag: anything is fine. Do some research, or just buy whatever's on sale.
  
• Anchor: Look into building sport climbing anchors. Four locking biners and two 60cm sewn runners is probably about right. A lot of people just lower or top-rope off of two quickdraws, you might just want to buy two extra draws.

I have an Arc'teryx belt that I love, but it costs as much as you'd expect. For single time use belts, just get the cheapest option off of Amazon Prime - http://amzn.to/1w2NpdV (~$25)

Drop a couple bucks on a decent carabiner though, you'll find use for it in the future. Black Diamond are durable and not too pricey - http://amzn.to/1w2NOwK ($10)

As far as what you'll be doing? Who knows, maybe dragging something like sled dogs or rope bridge work. Sounds like a blast!

Yeah, it seems steep but I am just going off of the receipts I have from my purchases.

EDIT:

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Hammock - 135

Hammock Rainfly - 140

Snake skin - 20

2QZQ - Mod 4 - 92

Atlas straps - 30

Carabiners - 14 (you need 2)

Omega Ring - 20 (you need 4 of them)

Dry compression - 45

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None of this includes shipping or taxes. That being said, it's a great setup and I am not disappointed with how it performs. If you pick up an under quilt then this setup is unstoppable.

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EDIT 2: The hammock includes the price for the original rainfly, I still have that and don't want it.

OP delivers!

We had originally considered purchasing a vehicle lift, but they were much more expensive, required a lot of headroom (the garage ceiling is only about 8'4" high), and would have required us to change the garage door tracks and opener to let it clear. This was a much simpler (and cooler) solution.

Many parts were purchase from Amazon, so I provided links so you can take a look.

Parts:

• Winch
  
  
• Pulley
  
  
• Carabiners
  
  
• Snatch blocks
  
  
• Rope hoist
  
  
• Hydraulic Vehicle Moving Dollies
  
  
• 3/16 (840LB capacity) steel cable
  
  
• Cable clamps
  
  
• Cable 'eyes' (keeps the cable in a nice curve when going around the carabiners)
  
  
• Lag bolts
  
  ==================
  Details:
  
  I had access to the studs and rafters as we removed the drywall to remodel the garage, so I was able to use 2x4s and 2x12s to strengthen the areas where the eye hooks were secured.
  
  I built these pivoting support blocks to keep the axle from taking any of the load. I put carpet on the blocks to keep them from scraping the new garage floor.
  
  I use these dollies to position the trailer to be hooked up to the pivot blocks.
  
  I use the rope hoist to make the raising and lowering of the trailer a one person operation. You need to pull the trailer away from the wall to get it to start lowering and also need to steady it on its way up so it doesn't fall into position too quickly.
  

If OP is looking for the best deal, there might be some brands having a sale that also have plenty reviews from people who have used the gear on a site like amazon. Ultimately OP, or someone else, would have to google to find the current deals. So instead OP could just google "wiregate carabiners" or even "recommendations for wiregate carabiners". Reviews on sales sites are just as good as people on here, since gear doesn't change and they would have actually used the gear.

For instance, this is cheap, has a full 5 star rating after 400 reviews, which is almost unheard of. Don't need anything more than that.

• Nite Ize S-Biner, Size 3
  
• Incipio Silicrylic Case for Samsung Galaxy S3
  
• DIY 550 Paracord Bracelet
  
• Timex Weekender
  
• Unbranded Leather Cardholder (mine arrived unstamped)
  
• Y&G Stainless Steel Money Clip
  
• Fisher Bullet Space Pen, Matte Black
  
• Generic Multi-tool Card (I got mine for free from a daily deal website)
  
• Moleskine Volant Notebook
  
• Generic Lip Balm (free swag from a Samsung booth, just removed the sticker)
  
• Prescription Ray-Ban Glasses
  
• Ray-Ban Wayfarer Sunglasses, Polarized (they were a gift so not sure of exact model)
  
• Samsung Galaxy S Earbuds (came with phone)

Do you need the connections rigid? If not, just buy webbing ($0.52/ft) and girth hitch the webbing to the sled and buy a weight belt ($13)to attach it to with a water knot looped around the belt.

If you want to get fancier and need it rigid, then buy two carabiners ($6 x 2) we can do the following:

• Take a length of webbing 18in-24in longer than your poles
  2.Fold the last 3in of one end over
  

• Sew both outer edges of the folded regions. This should create a "cup" 3in wide.
  
• The end of the pole should fit in this cup.
  
• Clove Hitch the webbing to the connection point so that the majority of the webbing is leading away from the sled and the cup we sewed is trailing towards the sled.
  
• Place the pole in the cup.
  
• stretch the webbing the length of the pole.
  
• Roughly 6in from the top place a bite in the rope about 6in in circumference with an overhand knot.
  
• Stretch the webbing along the pole.
  
• Fold the excess the excess over the pole and sew it together.
  
• Now we should have a Pole capped on both ends with webbing that is clovehitched to the sled near one end with a bite near the top.
  
• Repeat with other Pole.
  
  Now for how to attach it to yourself. You are probably going to want to buy some cordellette ($8.50, but probably cheaper at a nearby outdoor store since you only need 3-4ft and its like $0.50/ft) for a prussik.
  
  
• Tie two slings with the cord about 18in in length
  
• Tie prussiks around the weight belt about where they rest on your hips.
  
• Connect the prussiks to the sled with the carabiners.
  
  The Prussiks should hold the cord on your hips with friction. In all it should cost around $40. You can probably find cheaper carabiners or quicklinks at a local hardware store also.
  

Edge Eyewear TSK216 Kazbek Polarized Safety Glasses

iPhone 5s w/ Otterbox Case

Coast FX312 Rapid Response

Saddleback Leather Credit Card Wallet

MaxiFlex Endurance Gloves (gloves for office people to pretend they are protected)

Nite-Ize S-Biner

Silicon Power J80 Flash Drive

Truck Keys

Handkerchief

Uni-ball Jetstream RT Fine Point

Black Sharpie

[Coast HP2 Flashlight] (https://www.amazon.com/Coast-Universal-Focusing-Lumen-Penlight/dp/B008QV4E1Q)

Orange Highlighter

Rite in the Rain Memo Book

Stanley FatMax Auto-Lock 25' Tape

[Black Diamond Neutrino](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001O7O6VC/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_qbwavb0HT74CN
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001O7O6VC/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_qbwavb0HT74CN) strong enough to actually be used to hold weight but still relatively light weight. I'd highly recommend it.

These

I purchased these as an upgrade to my eno doublenest. While there are probably better carabiners out there, there are few as strong and as lightweight for 7$.

edit- narfaniel beat me to it with these exact same ones.

Flashlight: Nitecore TIP

Knife: Byrd Cara Cara

Pen: Pilot Kakuno

Wallet: Saddleback Leather Sleeve Wallet

Caribiner: Metolius Mini

Total: 98.33

More realistically, I would DIY the wallet with a $10 piece of tooling leather, and get a better knife like a Spyderco Efficient. This would put me a couple dollars over, so swap the pen for a Zebra F701. Total:$100.42

Hard mode:

Flashlight: Nitecore Tube

Knife: Opinel #6

Pen: Pilot Kakuno (same as linked above)

Wallet: DIY Sleeve (as discussed above)

Caribiner: Metolius (same as linked above)

Total: $49.14

Black Diamond is commonly associated with outdoor sports, with needs such as for climbing and hiking. A lot of their offerings are robust and intended for actual hard use and rated appropriately for safety, hence the "heavy" description you're seeing.

They also have a lot lighter simpler offerings that are great for the common EDC'er and retain the climbing safety rating if you ever decide to take it climbing or etc.

One suggestion from Black Diamond: [Neutrino] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HC7WWRM/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_er5iDbCKTZS7T) (several colours available)

A cheaper alternative that's also popular: Metolius FS Mini II (several colours available)

Note, these 2 brands are commonly available online or in outdoor sporting goods kind of stores like an REI. These carabiner makers often also make locking variants if you prefer the extra security.

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Nite-Ize products are generally more for light use, and they're more about the features, design, and varieties. They're not rated for climbing but they give a load-bearing rating to almost all of their carabiners larger than the micro series.

They have a lot of variations to choose from including size, colour, material, locking or non-locking, and shape. They also have larger holders too, for example a carabiner that itself holds like 6 micro carabiners.

What you hear about failing is either a QC issue or the issue that with the double wire gate system sometimes you can have the gate accidentally open.

You can find these in a variety of stores or online. I've seen these in Home Depot and Walmart too.

Any rock climbing carabiner should be more than rated to your hang and probably thin enough to go through your loop. Remember they are designed to withstand the force generated from people falling off rock face. I use these which are small and thin but I do care about weight.

Yeah, that's more along the line of what I was thinking, but moreso utilizing the hole of the controller. Like, say, using one of those extra large carabiners to just slot into the hole of the controllers.

Maybe use a duffel bag or better yet a tool bag from a hardware store?
Maybe use a big carabiner to bring them all together so they don't mish-mash and tangle with each other?
https://www.amazon.com/Jumbo-Aluminum-Carabiner-Snap-Hook/dp/B003LV3UZM
Maybe use a clothes hanging rod in the trunk up high and just pull what you need at each site off it?
https://www.amazon.com/High-Road-Expandable-Car-Clothes/dp/B001NI7KE2

Old picture I found in my phone today from my August EDC

can also be found on http://everydaycarry.com/posts/31039/edc-gear-from-august-2018

Black Diamond Jivewire Carabineer, Assorted, Large by Black Diamond

Combat Engineer Beret

Nalgene 32oz Bottle

Nite Ize S-Biner #3

G-Shock GD120 Series

Parker Jotter Pen

Gerber 30-000433 Remix

Apple iPhone 6s

Rite in the Rain - Green Tactical Note Book (All Weather)

genuine leather wallet

Actual carabiner, for 11 bucks and free shipping.

I hang my rings using climbing gear. It gives me an easy way to adjust ring height from pull-ups all the way down to ring pushups, in 3" increments. The rings are always level.

I hang long daisy chains from the ceiling. I girth hitch a 30cm pre-sewn runner/sling around each ring, and hang them from the daisy chains using a non-locking carabiner.

Edit: Here's a picture of the setup and a closeup of the rings/runner/carabiner.

Non locking carabiner.

1 inch tubular webbing.

Tie a water knot to the biner. Wrap the webbing end over end holding it in place. Pack it in a surgical glove. Remeber to use a non locking biner. It's easier to manipulate.

You wedge the tool between the bottom and sides on a diagonal angle while hitching the biner. The biner does not attach directly to the too. Only the webbing.

I just took my work one to my volley house, and I'm planning on making a new one. I'll PM you a pic if you don't understand.

Climbing-rated carabiner (preferably a locking carabiner) through the end of the ball eye-screws.

Climbing-rated sling over your pull-up bar with the ends of the sling hooked into the carabiner. You'll want to choose an appropriate sling length so that the grip balls hang (phrasing!) at your desired height.

https://www.amazon.com/Mad-Rock-Super-Screw-Carabiner/dp/B003E2WV80/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1518110798&sr=1-3&keywords=climbing+carabiner

https://www.amazon.com/Newdoar-Runners-Climbing-Lightweight-Slinging/dp/B075GRHYTX/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1518110547&sr=8-22&keywords=climbing+webbing+loop

Thanks. I've been looking for a new carabiner for my EDC. this one, specifically

This make a good keyring , i usually buckle it up on my pants.
Might come in handy at some point.

http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Rock-Super-Screw-Carabiner/dp/B003E2WV80/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1420512945&sr=8-4&keywords=carabiner

Plus the stuff you mentioned makes it complete.

• CRKT Homefront Knife
  
  
• Spyderco Squarehead Knife
  
  
• Trayvax Axis Wallet
  
  
• Peak LED Solutions Flashlight, w/ Mule Head
  
  
• Metolius F.S. Mini II Carabiner
  
  
• Maratac Peanut 10180 Flashlight
  
  
• Maratac Widgy Bar Straight, 2 inch
  
  
• Various Keyrings / Hardware
  
  
• Shaved Keys (off with their heads!)

Get a nice giant carabiner and hook everything up.

Flooring

• KM Cape Doctor Maple 12mm Laminate (discontinued)
  
  
  Closet
  
  
• [Ikea Expedit (discontinued) - replaced with Kallax]
  (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40275813/#/20275814)
  
  
• [1" 6061 aluminum rods, unpolished, extruded]
  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H9JFR8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
  
  
• [1" aluminum shaft collars]
  (http://www.mcmaster.com/#9946k24/=rjcdgv)
  
  
  Door
  
  
• [30x80" Oak Solid Core Door Slab]
  (http://www.menards.com/main/doors-windows/mastercraft-slab-doors/mastercraft-30-x-80-x-1-3-4-oak-solid-core-door-slab/p-1657282-c-12245.htm)
  
  
• [Door Hinges]
  (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-4-1-2-in-Satin-Chrome-Commercial-Grade-Door-Hinge-20442/204760762)
  
  
• [Schlage Latitude Privacy Door Lever]
  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0046ZRI7S/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
  
  
  Paint
  
  
• KILZ 2 Primer
  
  
• Behr Premium Ultra Pure White
  
  
  Lighting
  
  
• [TL90 Ceiling Flush Mount - Small]
  (http://www.1stoplighting.com/lighting/18-462-634-0-398776/Tech-Lighting_TL-90---Two-Light-Square-Small-Flush-Mount-700FM90S.htm)
  
  
• [TL90 - Large]
  (http://www.1stoplighting.com/lighting/18-462-634-0-308557/Tech-Lighting_TL-90---Two-Light-Square-Large-Flush-Mount-700FM90L.htm)
  
  
• [2GX7 4100k Bulbs]
  (http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/2798/FC13-2GX741OD.html)
  
  
• [G9 Halogen Bulbs]
  (http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/5113/Q-JCD40120G9.html)
  
  
• [Screwless Wall Plates (these are okay, a bit too retro for my liking but not bad enough for me to return)]
  (http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/wall-plates/rocker-gfci/1-gang-screwless-wall-plate/p-1403968-c-6479.htm)
  
  
  Desk
  
  
• [Linnmon High Gloss White 59x29 1/2" Table Top]
  (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10251352/#/20251356)
  
  
• [Olov Table Legs (I do not recommend these, there's a rattle from the internal tensioning rods)]
  (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10264302/)
  
  
  Hammock
  
  
• [Koch Forged Eye Screw - Small]
  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002T44T7A/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
  
  
• [Eye Screw - Large]
  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002T44T8O/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
  
  
• [Trek Light Double Hammock]
  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00857I7KK/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
  
  
• [Trek Light Gear Go Anywhere Rope Kit]
  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005VDZE2U/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
  
  
• [Black Diamond RockLock Screwgate Carabiner]
  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LGJFYK/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
  
  
  Total cost was USD 2197.67.

Top to Bottom, Left to Right...

• Mission Belt
  
• Alien Gear IWB holster
  
• XDs 3.3 w/ Extended Mag
  
• Oakley's Flak Jacket
  
• Kershaw Cryo II Blackwash
  
• Fossil Watch
  
• Ka-Bar TDI Hinderance
  
• Paracord Bracelet
  
• Streamlight Microstream
  
• Leatherman Holster (Holds the extra mag and flashlight)
  
• Extra non-extended mag
  
• Extra Carbiner I wear on my belt for whatever (Normally my water bottle)
  
• Keys on Nite Ize S Biner w/ Keysmart, Car Keys, and Leatherman PS
  
• Quiksilver Wallet
  
• Any form of Mio
  
• Galaxy SIII with Brushed Aluminum Case
  

I cannot, the cage was hard to clean and far to small. It had to go. I'm currently saving up for the Ferret Nation cage! Here is a link to a clip the would work. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0022IMK7E/ref=gno_cart_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2EG6QEDZDPFVD

This. Just get a locking d-ring carabiner like this one

My carabiner | Black Diamond | $9

My flashlight | Olight H1R | $67

Or get one that doesn't say "not for rock climbing." You can get a professional carabiner from Amazon for not very much. They don't lock, but the mechanism won't break and the damn things will hold your own weight. One like this.

black diamond

or
this
metolius

should come close to lasting a life span

Yup it’s an s-biner, size #3

I just bought mine last week. So far it is epic. I am going camping 10/25-10/27 ask me the following Monday, 10/28, and I'll give you an update.

If I can make a couple of recommendations: 4x rappelling rings, 2x caribeaners.

You can put the hammock up in a few seconds if you have snake skins.

I'll start. I use a Nite Ize #3 for my main, and I attach small items (i.e. flashlight, knife) with Nite Ize #.5. I have had items come detached often but they always just fall in my pocket.

You mean THE WORLD FAMOUS Jumbo 8" Aluminum Carabiner Snap Hook with Soft http://www.amazon.com/Jumbo-Aluminum-Carabiner-Snap-Hook/dp/B003LV3UZM
(On mobile) sorry if link no work

Metolius FS Mini Carabiner (2015) - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XPSM246/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_8L-iDbDMZMYV4


I’ve been using this one for about 3 years. Yes it’s a rock climbing one but that just means is heavy duty. And for $6 you can’t really go wrong.