Reddit mentions: The best digital multitrack recorders

Okay this is going to be a long post, so here goes.

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If you really want to get into sound design, youre going to need a few essentials. A DAW (Digital Audio Workstation), an audio interface, a handheld recorder, and a microphone.




DAWs

As far as a DAW goes, there's a few alternatives you can go with. I personally use Avid Pro Tools for near everything I do, but also mess around with Reaper. I've found that most studios will use one of these two. Most DAWs will have a pretty steep learning curve, so be ready for that.

Pro Tools First is the free version of Pro Tools. It has a lot of limitations, but for starting out it should be fine. If you want less limitations it costs big money, but I'm sure you can find a crack or two as long as you don't use it commercially.

Reaper is starting to grow on me lately. You can customize it to your needs, and the full version is only $60. You can also just deal with a popup everytime you open the program for ten seconds and use it for free. I mainly prefer Pro Tools over this because the video engine in Pro Tools is much better. But for batch editing multiple sound files, Reaper is muuuuuch better.

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Audio Interface

This basically takes over as an intermediary between high quality audio and your computer. You can plug a microphone right into it to record sound straight to your computer. You can do this with a USB microphone as well, but the quality is a million times better with one of these.
I would recommend either the Behringer UMC22 or the more advanced Focusrite Scarlett Solo. Both will do the trick, I just prefer the mic pres on the Focusrite a bit more.


Handheld Recorder
Handheld recorders allow you to record anything you want to without having to deal with any cables. They should be compact but durable.

The Tascam DR-40 is a great intro recorder. It was the first recorder I got 5 years ago, and it still holds up. I've dropped this thing so many times and it still powers through.
Another favorite is the Zoom H4N. This was a favorite among most of my classmates as it was the one my school supplied, but I didn't feel like going through the checkout process all the time so I saved up and got the Tascam. It has a newer version, the Zoom H6, which is pretty slick, but comes at a higher price point. It also comes with some interchangeable microphone capsules so you can get different types of recordings. I'll cover more of this later.
I'll leave off with the recorder I have now, the Sony PCM-M10. This thing is a godsend. It's discontinued due to a newer version coming out, but you can find this guy on eBay for around $300-400. It's smaller than a phone, and the sound quality is amazing. If you have the money to shell out for this guy, definitely go for it. Every sound designer inn the industry I know swears by it.


Microphone

So the first thing you need to know is that there's a load of different microphone types. Its a lot to cover, so I'm just going to link you to this article that will cover the basics of what you need to know. Basically I would recommend different microphones for different things, all depending on what you're trying to capture.
A good all-around microphone is the Shure SM57/Shure SM58. They're essentially both the same microphone. But these things will LAST. Like,people have run over them with trucks and they sound fine. Definitely a good starting point

For vocal recordings, I would recommend the Rode NT1A. This mic is a great starting point for capturing voice, and is durable to boot.

For capturing foley/field recording, I would go with the Rode NTG2. Its a shotgun mic with great quality for the price, and never let me down in all the years Ive been using it. I won its successor, the NTG3, in the Riot Creative Contest a few years back, but still use the NTG2 from time to time when I need to.


Some Extra Stuff


Theres a lot of cool, free plugins out there. I've used both Blue Cat's and Melda's plugins, and they all get the job done with a bit of tweaking.

As far as building up a sound library goes, I would recommend recording literally everything you can around you and playing with those sounds with plugins as a good starting point for building up a library. There's a few resources out there that give out free SFX every once in a while, GDC has had a bundle go up for 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019. You can also check out the BBC Sound Effects Library. Be careful about getting libraries and bundles though, as they add up quick. I have to go through my sound library soon, and I probably have around 500,00+ files but only really need a few thousand.

For all your sounds, you're going to want a file manager. A great and free one is Mutant. You just add the directory where you downloaded your sounds to, let it load them in, and voila. You can search easily for what you need.


Hopefully, all this was somewhat helpful to you, or to anyone else reading this who's interested in sound design!

I use pretty simple stuff. I don't ever really know what I'm doing, so mostly things come about by accident. Here are a few options, in a loose order from simplest to less-so:

If you have garage band on a mac (or can get it on a pc), this might not be the best method, but I've done it before: plug your guitar straight into the computer with a 1/4 to 1/8 adapter plugged into the computer's input (I think this works, I honestly can't remember- or you can feed it through pedals, effects, or an amp. This might blow some shit up, though. I have no idea), and mess around with the various effects. You can preview them after setting up a new "song", adding a "real instrument", and there should be a big list of different effects for guitar, vocals, etc. I like to put vocals through guitar effects because a lot of music I like has blown out vocals, and it's a rough approximation.
-- even simpler, I used to use the computer microphone (you might have to go into system preferences and change it from external/computer mic to the audio input, or the other way around) and play with my acoustic while the effects were played through "live" via the preview option or while I was recording. If you use headphones, you can kind of get a distortion effect. There's some background noise, but it's mostly just for experimentation. If you don't use headphones and the "live" preview of the effects is on, it can create feedback. Even then, if that happens, if you press your finger up on the computer mic hole and mess around with it, it kind of acts like a poor man's theremin. Again, that's just for fun.

Moving onto actual equipment, I am not the best person to ask about this kind of thing, but I just try to figure out how to do stuff with the options I am given. So a long time ago, my little brother was given a digital 8-track recorder, and he never ended up using it. It's a Boss BR-864, and I believe my parents gave it to him because they got it for a lowered price because it was a floor model. Always ask places like guitar center or music stores if you can get a good deal on the floor model on stuff like this. It might not be worth it, seeing as how it might have been abused by customers and their curious kids, but hey- the one I have has been working for years.

Anyhow, for a few years, I used that digital recorder just to play through all of the different guitar effects that came with it. Including all of the guitar-, synth- and bass-specific effects, it has 99 total effects. There are also some vocal-specific effects, but I usually use distorted vocals because I think it sounds neat. So you can plug in your instrument, plug in some headphones, and play around. It's also great when you live in an apartment where your neighbors are close by, or if you live with your parents or roommates and don't want to bug them while you want to play guitar late at night.

In any case, I finally figured out how to record one song at a time on that recorder, which kind of bugged me because when I was a teenager, I had a 4-track recorder that used cassette tapes, and when I got tired of messing around with one song, I could put in a different tape and work on a different song. As far as I know, you can't really do that without backing up and reloading data via USB and a computer.

As far as drums, the recorder I use has buttons on the bottom that can be used as a "rhythm pad", if you just want to have a rough approximation of a beat, or you want to loop a beat to play over. I don't really use that. As far as that goes, a keyboard with drum sounds would also work, if that works for you.

I luckily got a set of electronic drums (Roland TD-9KX2-S) over the past year, which has made recording much, much easier. They sound pretty great, and the only part that leaves something to be desired is the cymbals, but when you're beating on rubber to trigger a signal that approximates a cymbal peal rather than actually having the ability to hit the cymbal exactly how you want to, you give up a bit of the dynamics. It's not bad, but when you tend to beat the shit out of your equipment, you realize how inexact you're being when you're forced to sit down and play. I'm not the best drummer, but I try to be the loudest. That's just my own dumb thing, though.

I used to just play my acoustic drums in a small room with a microphone hanging in the middle of the room, and since it was structured in a quasi-pyramidal shape, things kind of worked out somehow with the way the sound bounced around. Usually the roar of the cymbals was kind of an ever-present hiss and the bass drum was overbearing, but I usually liked it sounding fucked up like that.

NOW: as far as what you can do for percussion, I don't know what your specific accommodations and limitations are, or how loud or soft you like your percussion to be, but consider alternative objects for percussion. I've seen a guy sit cross-legged on the floor, standing a cymbal (I think it was technically a crash, but it was being used more like a ride) on its bell, so it was played on its underside and could ring a little, but was muted enough for the other person playing acoustic guitar and singing to be heard. (He also played a snare that sat on the carpeted floor, muffling the resonance quite a bit. It all sounded pretty decent for what it was.) A friend of mine who did quiet acoustic music recorded the sound of scratching his fingernails on his jeans and the snip of some scissors for a beat. When I was recording a demo with a friend of mine back in college, he recorded the guitar on bandcamp with an acoustic with the method I described above, and I played "drums" by smacking my palm and a cassette tape case on an empty keg of beer. It was ridiculous and didn't sound that good, but it worked at the time.

However! I don't know your musical tastes, but one of my heroes (at least regarding improvised and sometimes jank-ass recording methods) is Jay Reatard. When he was 15, he recorded a demo in his bedroom on a 4-track recorder, beating on a bucket with a stick for drums. I think it sounds kind of awesome. He kept on recording by himself up until early 2010 when he died at 29, but just to give you an idea of the progression, he recorded this song, Fashion Victim by himself and under the moniker "The Reatards" when he was 15. Fast forward 14 years and hundreds of recordings with a ton of different bands, his most successful recordings were still done by himself and in his room. By this point, he had moved into a place of his own and upgraded his equipment while also learning how to play, but essentially, it's the same guy, doing the same thing, as "Jay Reatard." This is his song, "It Ain't Gonna Save Me". The link is to the video for the song, and the music actually starts around one minute in.

That guy might not be your flavor, but it was an example to show that if you have the basics, you can kind of do whatever you want and are only limited by your musical abilities (my current struggle) and creativity to record a bunch of shit. Even then, sometimes you don't need to know how to play to be able to make something.

I know I wrote a shitload more than I meant to, but I accidentally took a double dose of my ADD meds this morning and words are flowing like molten butter out of my head. A few more people to check out who record solo: Potential Johns is one of the guys from a band I like called The Marked Men. I can never remember which recording it is, but one of his has over 20 guitar tracks, which is ridiculous and awesome. Another guy is Bradford Cox from Deerhunter a Atlas Sound. That's less of a pop-punk vibe like the previous examples I gave. And MY MAN, Mark Sultan, other wise known as BBQ (as one half of King Khan & BBQ), is a damn modern soul junk genius. And Ty Segall is a San Franciscan wunderkind.

I'm typing too much now, but a few more things. Check out some modern one-man-band guys, just for fun.
Philip Roebuck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KERZJKI41i0
King Louie: http://youtu.be/Gb5ca21FBWg
Jeffrey Novak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38zf7Ke9LM

Sorry that's a bit of an overload, but I get excited. If you decide to start recording, message me / pm me with the results, if you want. I always like to hear new stuff, regardless of genre or quality. Also, I just joined this subreddit the other day, but http://www.reddit.com/r/wearethemusicmakers seems to be a place on reddit where people can share/critique/whatever stuff they record.

If you made it this far, high five.

Of course!!

It's a bit of an investment, but the equipment I used was the Zoom H4n Pro. Did some research and the Zoom H4n has been a standard for awhile- phenomenal device, and they recently put out an updated model (the Pro) which is identical save for some upgrades to the guts inside (the preamps and the onboard mics). I plan on using it for many years to come.

I took nigelewan's advice and set the h4n in my shirt pocket- it fits snug and perfectly. I kinda hated how it sticks out a bit- the mics are silver and shiny so I have to imagine JD notices it, but the fact that he's currently binging Grateful Dead tapes makes me feel a bit better. Still, I kinda want to paint them black or something. Not sure if that's possible though. The shininess is definitely gaudy, but oh well.

Try to position yourself as close to a speaker as possible. Your recording will end up being what the room at large hears mixed with the crowd audio from around you and also feintly capture JD if he goes off mic which is awesome.

The h4n has a bunch of quality options- I did some research and opted for 24bit/48khz . Apparently that's a sweet spot of making the bass sound really nice and juicy and being high quality but still allowing for a lot of recording time (depending on how big a card you get. I used this 32g card. I used a fresh pair of batteries for each show since I didn't want to take any risks.

You have to set the mic level- I was pretty freaking close to some speakers and it seemed like between 20-35 was the good spot. 20 for most songs, and I'd try to turn it up a few notches when a quieter one came on (and then I'd often forget to turn it back down for the subsequent songs so they'd be louder haha).

Wish you the best of luck! Let me know if you have any other questions.

Lavaliere microphones are small, not intimidating to the interviewee and in general very portable for in-person interviews. However, in general they are onmi-directional condenser microphone that for the inexperienced users (and even a lot of experienced users) operating in un-sound-treated environments tend to pick up excessive background noise and clothing rustling. I tend to either try to stay away from these or use them only as a secondary/backup audio source.

My go-to microphone for in person interviews (especially in noisy environments) is the Sennheiser MD-46 or the [Audio Technica BP4001](http://amzn.to/2qu388q
). Both of these microphones are super cardioid dynamic interview microphones that have low handling noise. They were specifically designed for this purpose. I have several MD-46's and have used them on location. They reduce the ambient noise as much as you possibly can with a hand-held microphone and they sound pretty good. I have yet to pick up a BP4001 but it might be the next microphone I buy to test it out coming in August.

There is also a "Broadcast Headset" microphone made for live sports broadcasting situations. I own an Audio Technica BPHS-1 and have used it out in the field several times. It functions much like the MD-46/BP4001 but in a headset mode. However, some interviewees might be a little put off by having to wear one.

Finally, there are shotgun microphones. These tend to be the most expensive option but work well if you are trying to keep a microphone off screen. If you are interested I can recommend a few

If you are lucky enough to interview someone with a smartphone there's a few apps out there like Ringr that will record both sides for you. If not the best way to go about this would probably be Skype and record both ends on your computer through a program like MP3 Skye Recorder or Evaer. There's actually quite a few ways to do this. I would in general recommend a digital portable recorder like a Zoom H5 to act either as a primary recorder (I like the audio from the H5 better than a Skype recorder) or a backup.

Good luck and let us know if you have any further specific questions!

Hardware/software wise it’s pretty simple. If you have a semi decent computer you can find free audio software. You’ll just need to purchase a microphone that connects to you computer via USB and download something like Audacity to get started.

If you want an easier solution you could go with a a multitrack recorder like the Zoom R8 or this zoom portable recorder The ZoomR8 is nice because you can do all your work directly on it, or do as I do and recordson it, pull out the SD card and import what you’ve recorded into your computer for mixing and adding any effects that you may want to do. It’s a great way to learn in my opinion and the one I recommend.

If your computer has a built in microphone, you can probably skip buying a mic and just download the software record like that.

If you try Audacity and don’t like it, just google free recording software there are a few options out there. Also, if you have a Mac if any sort, you can always use GarageBand since it comes with you Mac. You may or may not need a USB microphone for it. I’m not sure, I don’t use it

Oh and go to your local library. They should have some books on getting started with multi track recording at home.

Hope that helps!

Cheers

u/DarthonX330 - the G85 is a great hybrid still/video camera - but for corporate and short films I would personally get a real cinema camera with professional codecs.

The Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera is on sale right now for $795 - and a Lilliput A5 monitor with an LP-E6 plate (same as the camera) is $149.

This camera will give you more dynamic range than a still camera - plus professional 10-bit ProRes and losslessly compressed 12-bit RAW codecs with more colors and gradeability than any 8-bit DSLR or mirrorless camera.

And with a $500 audio budget, I would get a $409.99 Zoom H5 bundled with the SGH6 shotgun capsule and a set of headphones [Referral Links].

Here is the image quality the BMMCC can produce:

Advertising and corporate promos

• ACCIDENTAL LOVE // PERŁA SPOT by Tomasz Dobski
  
• The Gathering Karak Pancake Ad by Chema García (Mumford) (shot with the BMMCC and the BMPCC)
  
• Vogue Shareable: Abarth 695 Rivale by Daniele Piatti
  
• backstage Svetlo tm by Alexander Ladski
  
• Painting A Portrait by Michael Lozano
  
  Docs
  
  
• Behind The Scenes - “A Pirate’s Tale” by Noam Kroll (BTS shot with the BMMCC, scenes from the film shot with the URSA Mini 4.6K)
  
• Training Day - Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera by Simon Shasha
  
• ‘A Working Gym’ by Mike Rea (upscaled to 4K - shot with the BMMCC and the BMPCC)
  
  Short Films/Narrative
  
  
• L’ÉCHAPPÉE SAUVAGE (fiction short film) by Loïc Porcher
  
• HOLY FIRE (Short Film Version) by Roman Ruetten
  
• GENE Teaser by Giant Leap Productions
  
• Au lac by Thomas Fontaine
  
• G O N E - A Lost Visual Poem by Roman Ruetten
  
• Micro by Noam Kroll
  
• THE DEAD by SUPERIOR FILM
  
• Metaphores of Life - short film by J&J Films (upscaled to 2160p)
  
• Love Story - Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera by JSFILMZ
  
• DEPARTURE - Sci-Fi / Afrofuturist / Noir Short Film by Donovan Vim Crony
  
  Live Performances and Music Videos
  
  
• Open // Jezze B (Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera Music Video) by Thomas Shomo (upscaled to 2160p)
  
• Litesound Brothers - HTW - Jason Derulo Nicki Minaj - Swalla [Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera] by litesoundband (upscaled to 2160p)
  
• Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera Footage - Silver Darter - 'Amnesia' Music Video by Tiddly Films (1080p - table scenes shot with the BMMCC, bathroom scenes shot with the BMCC)
  
• Dara Under the Tree - A Night like This ( LIVE ) by Hugo Brand (1080p)
  
• Flores na Lua​ - I Still Am by REC'n'Play (upscaled to 2160p - shot with the BMMCC and the BMPCC)
  
• Live one take performance Micro cinema camera + Sigma 18-35 art + Glidecam HD4000 by Hugo Brand(upscaled to 2160p)
  
• leeSA / 리싸 - Down & How Deep Is Your Love (Cover) by friendz.net (1080p)
  
• Jackson Carlos​ - The Lesson by REC'n'Play (upscaled to 2160p - shot with the BMMCC and the BMPCC)
  
• Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera-Live acoustic performance by Jimm Harrison shot by Hugo Brand (1080p)
  
• The Taming of BMMCC In The Park 4.3.2018 by Kin (upscaled to 2160p)
  
  1080/60p Slow Motion
  
  
• Black Magic Micro Cinema Camera - Slow Motion Test by Rob Ellis (1080p - 12-bit losslessly compressed RAW)
  
• Solitude (Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera - Slow Motion Test) by Color Film Productions (1080p - 10-bit ProRes)
  
• Maniere De Voir by Craig Murfin
  
• After Hours - Maniere De Voir by Craig Murfin
  
  There are many more examples in the Pocket/Micro Cinema Camera group I moderate over on Vimeo.
  
  Although Blackmagic cameras have a steeper learning curve than consumer DSLRs or mirrorless cameras, and color grading in post is pretty much mandatory - in my view, they are the best pure filmmakers' cameras in this price range and well worth the money.
  
  If you decide to go with the BMMCC, you might want to subscribe over at /r/bmpcc and /r/Blackmagicdesign - lots of knowledgeable folks there who can help you get the most out of your new camera.
  
  Hope this is helpful and good luck with finding the right camera for your needs!

I've recorded myself a bit with both budget and hi end mikes. I have used a Zoom H4n Pro ($219) portable recorder for a project I have with classical guitar improvisations. All the recordings are done either in living rooms or outdoors. There's no fx on the recordings, only a little bit of eq and compressor. Here's a link to these recordings on Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5XAY5a4uUdTP4EYave3ND3?si=AraITj7DQ8yUnF-Uk0t8wA

I also record original classical guitar compositions using expensive Schoeps mics (Collette stereo set w/Mk5 capsules), here's a solo guitar tune recorded with these mikes in a parallel configuration with added reverb:

https://open.spotify.com/track/4Nju2e1clXsp0SW0nycdM4?si=CtAFUNuFR0y_UpRpFzok-A

I happen to like the sound of the Zoom because it feels more "real" or "natural" to me. Like sitting in the room with the player. The good thing with doing recordings is, you'll have to practise getting less scratching. I get scratching all the time, but recording myself has helped me being aware of this and try to improve it. Same thing with playing, recording can help you improve because you'll probably start hearing what you'll need to practise when listening to your recordings.

Personally I don't like the sound of line/piezo much, but I guess it can sound more controlled and you'll probably get less scratching sounds as well. But budget mikes today can be great, I would do some experimenting with mic placement and maybe recording in different rooms if that's an option. Especially where you place the mic does make a huge difference, so I would advice to start with that. I like the sound of stereo recordings much better than mono also, it sounds more natural to me, and less honky.

Link to Zoom:
https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I

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Link to Schoeps:

https://schoeps.de/produkte/stereo/sets/stereo-set.html

Hi /u/nerdress -

The Rode Videomic Pro is a pretty good mic but the t3i is really, really bad for audio no matter how good the microphone. I'd strongly suggest getting an external recorder like the H4N or, at the very minimum, a H1N. You may want to pair it with a XLR shotgun mic like this if you can find the $$$.

A tripod is something that can last for many years, but the one you linked to is really bottom of the barrel. This is something I'd suggest investing a little more money into, you are going to want a universal fluid head specifically if you plan on doing video work semi-regularly. I'd get a semi-compact Manfrotto tripod like that one, you won't regret it.

Lastly, do you plan on using the kit lens? I'd suggest grabbing the famous nifty fifty. It's a legend for many reasons (super sharp, great lowlight, durable as can be).

Also you are going to want to get this battery grip for the t3i if you don't have one already. I remember when I shot on a t3i I purchased that out of whim, and I'm pretty sure I never took it off for 3+ years. It not only extends your battery, but it makes the camera much more comfortable to hold.

Hope some of this helps, sounds like you'll be in good shape! Remember, audio is just as important as video, so it's smart to invest in that type of gear.

A few thoughts:

• You're not that bad. Sure, there's room for improvement but you need to realize that it's normal to be self-conscious in these types of situations and no one is going to more critical than you. This will take time to get over but I promise you that it gets easier.
  
  
• You should consider recording audio only and using voice-over to compliment footage/stills of your product. There doesn't seem to be any reason for you to be on camera and once you start throwing out prices and numbers it's actually detrimental to the information you're trying to convey. The beauty of using this method is that you can pick and choose your good "takes" without worrying about jump cuts. Based on this video it appears that you've been trying to get a perfect 3 minute take which is difficult for professional talent to pull off. You should consider writing a script for the information you want to convey and then recording voice over with something like the Zoom H4N Digital Multitrack Recorder. Try reading each sentence individually with different inflections, speeds, points of emphasis etc. The audio will sound much better and I think that you'll find the recorder is less intimidating than a camera. Cut together all of your best takes and add in some b-roll and I think you'll be a lot happier with the results.

Those mics ain't gonna cut it. If you are fond of Rode, look into their NTG-2. These aren't specifically designed to be mounted on camera, as they work best boomed over (or scooped under) talent. For the best audio possible, you want to have the boom mic just outside of frame. If you plan on shooting interview style setups, I suggest you go the wireless lav mic route, so you can run two or more mics right on talent, and not have to worry about having a boom operator (or two) . I suggest this one from Saramonic set. I have used this in everything from weddings to legal depositions, and it has never let me down.

But you also may need a mixer recorder. This is so you can adjust the levels for each person separately, as everyone doesn't talk the same loudness. I use the Tascam DR-60D, they are cheap, but they have a glaring problem, that they won't recognize over a 16GB SD card. For that reason alone, I recommend getting a DR-70D or a competing mixer/recorder from Zoom. The reason why I recommend these instead of ones that are cheaper, is that these have dedicated physical gain buttons for each channel, so you can "ride the pots" to keep your levels where they need to be.

Lastly, since you're a Noobie, I don't want you to suck, so I picked out some great, cheap, Kindle books that I've bought and read cover to cover, and they really helped BIG TIME! I recommend this book called How to Shoot Video that Doesn't Suck and The Angry Filmmakers Survival Guide - Part One (this is more about indie film production, but damn near everything can be applied to your use case).

I spent several years getting my lighting chops doing portraiture photography. I knew how to do what I needed with soft and hard light from studio strobes. But dealing with "hot lights" (continuous lighting) for multiple people or a whole room is something else altogether! The most expensive book I'll recommend (around $22.00 USD) is Lighting for Cinematography Please buy this book!! It is fascinating the amount of information you learn from this publication, as it's chock full of pictures from on sets of lighting setups.

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I hope this helps!

The Rode Videomic Pro might be useful, but it (or anything like it, that plug directly into the camera) is not going to have quite the same audio quality as an XLR mic. If you have the budget for it, I would suggest the Audio Technica AT875r with a Zoom or Tascam, and get a hot shoe mount if you want it mounted on the camera. Part of the reason for this is that having a separate mic will allow you to do more in the future, while still allowing it to be camera mounted when desired. It also will make it easier to capture foley for your film easier, allowing you to mic footsteps and clothes rustling, breaths, etc... Third, the quality and pickup will be a bit better.

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In short, if you have the budget for it, a broader setup will be more effective, especially in the long run. If you don't have the budget for it, a camera mounted mic will still work, but you will likely need to upgrade in the future. If neither are in your budget, it is possible to get someone to do foley for you and add it in, or find someone in the area who has a mic to record the audio for you (even paid, this will likely be cheaper if the shoot only lasts a day, but you may be able to find someone willing to work for free if they are just starting out).

Best and cheapest are two different things. IMHO, you want the best sound possible since audio makes your film look better.

You can get a lot of bang for your buck with a Zoom H4N audio recorder, a RODE mic and a boom pole. If you have a couple of bucks more, look at a pair of RODE wireless lavalier mics as well. These are wireless body mics. You can use those on actors, but also they can be hidden on set in places that are hard for the boom to reach. The key idea about recording audio is to get the mic as close as possible to the person speaking.

You probably also want a slate with a clapper on the top. You don't need a fancy one with timecode. Apps like Davinci Resolve can sync sound automatically, but it's always better to have a clap at the top of the shot in case you need to sync it by hand. Slating your shots laso make it easier to figure things out in the editing room.

I'd buy my current setup...

Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 Audio Interface ($150)

(2) MXL 770 Cardoid Condenser Microphones - Amazing quality microphone for the price. ($144 for 2)

(2) XLR Cables ($20 for 2)

(2) Microphone stands. I use this Gator for my main mic stand and a cheap scissor arm stand for my second. ($100ish for 2)

(2-pack) Microphone pop filters. I like these replicas of the Popgard, but also have one real PopGard that I paid $40 for. Either is much better than those pop filters on a long extension arm that gets in the way. ($10 for 2)

Zoom H4n Pro or H5 portable recorder. I have a Zoom H4 Pro (and a regular H4) but either would work well for recording a podcast on the road or on location somewhere without a computer. ($200-275)

Audio-Technica ATH-M50x Studio Monitor Headphones ($150)

Software - GarageBand or Audacity or other free DAW. Or, if you already have a Creative Cloud subscription like I do, Adobe Audition.

All of that is way less than $1k, and give you the ability to do a two-person interview podcast in the studio or on location. With the extra $100 or so, buy some sound proofing materials for your studio.

This is exactly what my setup looks like right now.

Do you have a smartphone with a voice recorder? That’s all I use and it’s remarkable how well these sound considering their general availability. I usually put the phone behind the body of my acoustic to balance the sound with my voice.

That’s about as good as you can get with a low budget. Most “budget equipment” out there that’s designed for this purpose is not going to be significantly better that it’s really worth shelling out money, unless you really want a step up, which obviously costs more.

If you want to overlay tracks, there’s apps for that too depending on what kind of phone you got, but usually I’m going for a natural real live sound, so I generally record my voice and guitar together on one take.

If you have a couple hundred dollars to spend, I’d recommend an “h4n pro”. It’s got amazing sound for the price, does multi-track recording, it’s a good room mic for a band practice and it has some onboard effects that are very cool to use if you do it right. I can’t really recommend it enough considering the bang you get for your buck. We’ve broken our a couple times over the years and I always seem to keep coming back to it.

Everyone else has mention audacity, but that’s what I’ve been using for years and still do. Find some cool plug-ins and you can really do a lot with very little or no money down.

Look into the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera. It's about $1000 without lenses. It shoots ProRes and RAW HD. Get a free copy of Resolve to edit and color grade the footage. It's a great little camera that takes beautiful footage, and Resolve takes it to the next level.

Here are some samples to give you an idea of the quality.

For £4000, you should be able to get a camera, batteries, memory cards, lenses, ND filters and an outboard audio recorder and mic.

I recommend these lenses:

Tokina 11-17mm

Voigtlander 25mm

Sigma 18-35

The Voigtlander is MFT, but the other two I recommend getting in Nikon, and buying an Nikon-to-MFT adapter. Part of the joy of MFT is that you can use nearly any kind of lens with the proper adapter.

I also recommend getting two kinds of adapter: a straight adapter, and a MetaBones Speed Booster, which widens the focal length of the lens and adds about a stop of light. It's like getting twice the number of lenses for the cost of an adapter. (For example, the 11-17mm lens goes to 8mm with the Speed Booster.)

A couple of suggestions. First, don't get the atr2100 mics. You're paying for a USB interface you won't use. Pick up a couple of Shure SM58 mics - even if you upgrade later you'll have them as good quality spares. They cost a little more but they're a little better quality.

Get the Zoom H5. It's about $270 and had actual gain knobs (no digging through menus) and supports Zoom's interchangeable mic capsules. It can also act as an audio interface.

That'll leave you around $130 to pick up an inexpensive set of headphones, a couple of mic stands, and cords. You'll have a setup that will work well as a portable setup as well as an in-studio rig and will be useful later on if/when you decide to upgrade work a mixer or dedicated audio interface.

If you have good internet, you don't have to download the Videos, but it would make your setup more mobile and fool-proof. I don't see an easy way to do pitch control on videos. (others may have an idea...I don't)

You can connect the output of your computer/smart TV to a mixing board along with one/more microphones. The output of the mixer goes to your PA ( amp/speaker or powered speaker). If you don't have a mixer, Amazon has relatively inexpensive Behringer and Yahama units with effects that I've used and recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-MG06X-6-Input-Compact-Effects/dp/B00I2J4V5G?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00I2J4V5G

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https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-XENYX-QX602MP3-6-Channel-Player/dp/B01B7QKLWC

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You don't need karaoke software as you aren't using karaoke files. Some karaoke software does have the means of playing videos but that just complicates things. If you are playing the files online, you can just use your browser. If you want to download them, use a shareware video downloader like 4k Video downloader ( https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader ) and a video player like VLC. I've used the free version of 4k Video downloader and it works fine without having to purchase the "pro" version. Let me know if that's not clear and I'll try to help.

Ok you'll need 4 mics then. Using a cheap AT2100 will still deliver great audio quality.

Now you plug those 4 mics either into a Zoom H5 or a Behringer mixer. From there you can feed the signal into a laptop for recording.

Obviously you'll need XLR cables for this too.

Then you can use Audacity or Garageband which are free editors to edit the show to get started. You could use a free trial of another one like Hindenburg if you want to try a better one.

That should be all you need equipment wise.

Then you need to host it somewhere. Maybe your company can whip up a website and let you host the files there somewhere. Otherwise you're looking at Libsyn at $7-$20 a month.

there are a few ways depending on what recorder you're using; lets break down the 2 options

Option 1-
The H1 Route - http://amzn.to/2fQdkCW ($91)
XLR to TRS 3.5 cable - http://amzn.to/2gLdfoC ($10)

This route is pretty simple, the cable will connect to the sound board via XLR, join that to the 3.5 entry of the zoom, record, keep track of levels, do a sound check from the mic they'll be using to see if it's connected, this path will cost you $101

Option 2-
The H4 Route - http://amzn.to/2gNcB7T ($189)
XLR male to female - http://amzn.to/2fQgmY0 ($7)

Simple as well, connect xlr cable from DJ's board to your recorder; the h4 allows greater control of levels and organization.

this will cost you $196.

It's pretty simple, definitely get there early, talk to the DJ and dj's are always happy to walk you through it (at least the one's i've worked with)

If you want to see more of our gear, check us out at www.indiemarchfilm.media

Hope this helps!

I am unclear of the application you want to use this for - if you just want to have two people participate in a podcast - and I presume here the podcast is just two people talking - and your aim is to record it (for later upload).

Then all you need to do is have two mics combined - which your special dual microphone set already does.

What you can do is plug this microphone jack into the mic port of a Y-splitter (of the type I mentioned above) - then plug in a headphone splitter into the earphones port of the same Y-splitter.

Then plug the Y-splitter into your Android device.

Now you just record as usual.using our app or other audio recorder app.

Now the problem is with your requirement that you also hear yourself and the other person speaking (i.e. whatever is being recorded - you also want to hear). On Android this will always have audio latency (i.e. delay). If this was an Apple device (iOS) it will have much less delay - but there will be some delay but it won't confuse you. I can't think of an app off the top of my head - I think RobVox is also available on iOS - so perhaps if you have an iOS device you could try RobVox and if it allows recording and it already has the Headphone mirroring feature - then it may work better on iOS - check them out on iOS:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/robovox-voice-changer/id584847250
RobVox Voice Changer

Other than this - if you are willing to forgo the listening-to-yourself part - i.e. are willing to just leave your headphones off so you can listen to the other person just over the air, then you can use the Android solution - since you will then not have to listen to yourself. With our app you can turn off the headset mirroring feature - click Settings - Output Settings - Listen to Record (Headset) - and turn if Off.

But if you want to hear the recording also - then go with the iOS (test an iOS device first with RobVox if you can).

Other than that there maybe dedicated audio recorder devices which allow two mics, and have audio mirroring - these will have very low latency I think. But these would be expensive also.

You will need one which has a separate port for the audio output for headphones for audio mirroring (basically you need devices which have a field recorder feature).

I know some of the very expensive such devices have that:

https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-DR-40X-Four-Track-Recorder-Interface/dp/B07N3FDT3M/
Tascam DR-40X Four-Track Digital Audio Recorder and USB Audio Interface
$179

https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-Stereo-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B004OU2IQG/
TASCAM DR-05 Portable Digital Recorder (Version 2)
$90

https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H5-Four-Track-Portable-Recorder/dp/B00KCXMBES/
Zoom H5 Four-Track Portable Recorder
$279

I can't off the top of my head recall which have the audio mirroring feature, but I think some devices like these have the audio mirroring to headphone - and have a separate headphone port. And possibly even two ports for two microphones (?)

For these types of solutions, the folks on r/podcasting may have better solutions.

You can buy an attachment for many phones that offers good demo-quality audio for around £100. There tend to be more offerings for iPhone, something like this or maybe this would work well. THere's also something like this that would work on any phone, and would give better results than just the mic on your phone.

There are also a few good recorders out there in your price range that would give you good quality like the Zoom H1 or the Tascam DR-05. Both Tascam and Zoom have a range of options for digital recorders, and some of the Zooms also function as an audio interface that you can plug into the computer. I have the Zoom H6, which is outside your budget but a fantastic recorder for the money.

One word of warning, don't be suckered in by cheaper alternatives for mics or recording equipment. You get what you pay for, and anything under about £50 in either department isn't going to be too much better than the mic on your smartphone.

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Hi /u/nervousgoat - I have both the DR-40 and a Zoom H1 and I love them both - but if I had it to do all over again, I would get a high quality preamp and output it directly into my camera.

If you can stretch your budget a few dollars, you can get this [open box JuicedLink Riggy Assist RA222 with audio metering, a headphone jack and phantom for $349] (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575034783&toolid=10001&campid=5337235943&customid=&icep_item=201134697664&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg).

A preamp might be preferable to an external recorder because:

• you don't have to remember to turn on two devices for every shot
  
• you don't need to slate
  
• it reduces the need for a separate sound person
  
• you don't have sync audio in post
  
  If you have half an hour and some patience with audio geekery, you might want to take a look at this review of the JuicedLink preamp versus the Zoom H6 (much better than the H4N) and the Tascam DR-60D (much better than my DR-40): http://youtu.be/rGMiIXkiJ9E
  
  If the JuicedLink is too expensive or you still want a recorder, I recommend the new [$269.99 Zoom H5] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KCXMBES/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00KCXMBES&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) for audio quality (it's the same as the H6 - again, better than the old H4N) and the [$259 Tascam DR-60D] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CRY250U/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00CRY250U&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20) for ergonomics and connectivity to your camera without special cables.
  
  Hope this is helpful!
  
  Bill
  
  

I'm assuming by "box" you mean audio interface.

If you're looking to be cost-efficient, I personally would suggest starting with an H4N Pro (or the cheaper non-Pro variant) and a mic such as the MXL 770. You'll also need an XLR cable.

The H4N, if you take care of it, will last you a long time and will give you many a good recording. It has built in mics, as well, and they are good quality, but external mics are typically better to have, if possible. However, if you're on a budget, you can easily use just the H4N and its built in mics without any issue, so long as you also get a windscreen. Be sure to have an SD card (I can't remember if it comes with one on its own as I purchased mine as part of a kit that came with a few accessories) as well, to record your files to.

The lav would probably work really well. It's very close and consider that if the microphone the groom was talking through picked up too much sound from the speakers, you would end up with a lot of feedback anyways.

So here's what I suggest doing.

1. Setup your Zoom H1 with the lav mic for the groom. Have him keep it in a pocket on record. Maybe tape over the buttons so they don't accidentally get pressed.
   
   
2. Use the Rode VideoMic with your camera. Optional: get a better preamp to improve its sound. I'm not sure specifically while Rode mic you're talking about, but it may help to get a Beachtek Preamp. This would be good for two reasons. First it will improve your audio quality. Second you split your mic to left and right tracks. Set one at a normal level and use the second at a lower level, your safety track, in case it's too loud and clips.
   
   
3. Use another recorder, preferably a Tascam DR-60mkII to record the audio from the DJ. If they have a proper mixer setup, they may be able to give you both there master outputs, and a separate auxiliary send for the microphone the groom speaks into, hence the extra inputs over the H4n. Keep in mind that this recorder on its own doesn't have microphones. It's made to be a recorder you plug other devices into.

Stepping up the audio can have huge gains in quality, NTG and Deity shotguns are priced well, links above are a great start. Consider a portable recorder Zoom H4n Pro Handy Recorder https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01DPOXS8I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_5zLPBb676ZPND so they can record dual system and not have to struggle to send XLR audio to a DSLR. Get a rode boom, and a shock mount too.

Some simple lighting can go a long way , Aputure are the bets bag for your buck right now. If you can spring for the 120D , there will be many more modifier options to control the light worth buying down the road, which will allow them to learn a lot from controlling light (a powerful skill).

When I first started out I scoured local shops for old manual Nikon lenses and picked up cheap adapters SODIAL(R) AF Confirm Lens Adapter For Nikon F AI AIS Lens to Canon EOS EF 5D 7D 600D DC192 https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B074FRFTFY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_RHLPBb2YMTQJK to mount them to canon DSLRs. It opened up a lot of control of depth of field kit lenses simply didn’t have with such small apertures. I was able to find cheap Nikon glass for less than $50 on occasion from church sales and small shops and still shoot on then today :).

Have fun!

Edit: spelling

No sweat man, keep it up!

For audio, I have a Zoom H4N recorder that I got used for $100. It does a surprisingly good job for how inexpensive it is. You can also plug nice mics into it if you can find a deal on a shotgun mic. A cheaper/easier option is Rode's DSLR mic that goes in the hot shoe port. Better sound is going to make your videos much better. Anywhere that you don't get great sound, cut to B-roll and do voiceover in a quiet room at home.

Good luck!

Hi /u/GamersGrind - at your price point, I recommend the new [Tascam DR-60D MKII] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MIXFBL0/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00MIXFBL0&linkCode=as2&tag=battleforthew-20). I have the DR-60D Mark I and the Mark II is the best value audio recorder you can buy for the money.

Here's a hands-on review of the Mark I from DJ at dslrfilnoob.com: http://youtu.be/8gn6OmX7Drc

Good luck!

As others have mentioned, XLR mics with a mixer is a good start for multi-mic. Of course, as long as you have a PC you can output to mixer to for recording.

A great starting mic is the ATR2100. We started with a cheap 2-input Behringer, outputting to my PC and Audacity. We eventually upgraded to using a Zoom H4N Pro going to a macbook and Garageband. The Zoom gives us a bit more recording freedom, which is nice.

When I go all hardware, I used to record to the Tascam DP-008EX and then bounce the track to my Tascam 424.

Recording to tape can sound different depending on the type of music you are recording and how you mix and level the individual tracks. For reference, here are 3 tracks I recorded to cassette:

• Angband
  
• 7h22
  
• Snow
  
  These days, I use the Zoom H6 pretty exclusively for my hardware recordings (because I can do overdubs and record ambient sounds with the microphone). If you are looking for a hardware device for your recordings, anything from the Zoom R line you might like. And if you have any interest in the cassette sound, I am sure you can find some cheap(er) options than online around you area. Check thrift stores and Craigslist.
  
  Also, your 2 tracks are nice. Keep writing music!

I'm very happy with my TASCAM DR-60D mkii. As a prosumer recorder, it's a bit "plasticky." But if you treat it with care, it records some beautiful audio for <$200.

Awesome! I hope you do trying it out! Here's what I got.

Camera: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019UDIDXS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Audio Recorder: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DPOXS8I/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Mic (Same we use for podcasting) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001IPUJJI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Lighting Kit: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KRN0SEI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Ring Light: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O1UCDKU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have a subscription of Adobe Creative Suite and use almost all of it. After Effect and Premiere. We use Cubase for audio engineering but Audition is great too.

There is a way using Soundflower if you're on a mac or try this other reddit thread if you're on a PC.

However, that is definitely going to be a bit of headache. The much easier, but obviously more expensive solution, down the line would be to use two XLR mics and a mixer. A mic like the ATR2100 that is USB / XLR is a very good choice and what my wife and I use on our show. From there any of the inexpensive Behringer mixers are really all that you need. So for just over $200 you have a very scaleable set-up. Add in a Zoom H1 / H4 and you don't even need the computer anymore.

I'm guessing Bill is using something like a handheld digital recorder like the Zoom H4N for ease of use. http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B00UK7G3UO

You stick a SD card in there hit Record, then hit play and you're good to go. You pop out the card move the file to your PC and either edit in something like Audacity or GarageBand, then upload to the cloud.

I'd go with a mixer. You can get a decent behringer for $200 with 3-4 mic inputs (XLR) and get yourself 3-4 decent xlr mics and cables. That way you dont have to all be huddled around one microphone. You could set up a table and go at it. From that mixer, a cable or two going to a digital audio device like a steinberg C1 into your PC or Mac for recording. Most mixers also have a second output you could plug into a phone or something like a Zoom recorder so you have a backup recording in case the PC or Mac doesnt record for whatever reason.

Or to do it on the cheap, just a portable Zoom recorder like THIS ONE can be setup on a tiny tripod somewhere in the room. I've used a Zoom H1 to record whole panels at comic conventions and the audio actually came out pretty damn good. John Barrowman from Arrow/Doctor Who actually touched my recorder making it priceless so I can't sell it sorry. :)

The H6 is a small brick but very nice and has cleaner and more powerful preamps than the R16. The dials are a bit fiddly but it's very solid.

The Zoom F4 at $600 is the next step up. Likely overkill.

https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-F4-Multitrack-Field-Recorder/dp/B01KZHQWY0/

https://youtu.be/Kceklzk30Io

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I've used recorders from both brands quite heavily and I find Zoom's recorders to be better options in this range. In particular, [Zoom's H5 recorder](http://amzn.to/1uCEO4g "Zoom H5") provides very good audio quality and strikes a nice balance between solid build quality, great battery life, and practical functionality such as physical level knobs (vs buttons).

I use the H5 both for recording VO during post and as an on-camera recorder when working with XLR mics.

Mmm mmm love the Motu 828 Mk2, but you probably need a portable digital field recorder.

The 2016 TEC Award shows this: Recording Devices
Zoom/F8 MultiTrack Field Recorder

I have one of these antiquated things, it works fine, can do line-in via 1/8" 3.5mm stereo mini-jack. There are other models of this format. Good luck.

edit: but you would probably need a mixer to go with handheld recorder. Why not use a Marantz cassette? Marantz has made about 20 models of field recorders both analog and digital, some have XLR in. They all have built-in limiting. In the US, if you hunt and peck via eBay you can usually find something for 5 cents on the dollar. You can probably do the same thing in the UK. Often I feel a little guilty some of the used gear deals I locate online. Also, do you know anyone? Can you just borrow something instead of own it?

You also need to clarify if you require phantom power, but you can do that with an inline battery-powered phantom power supply.
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I could probably do what you are trying to do with my cheep-bone Edirol R-09, 2 condenser mics -> a battery powered phantom power suppy -> 2 direct boxes -> 2x 1/4" to stereo 1/8" 3.5mm adapter wire to -> Edirol.

Then go home, eject the sd card from the Edirol, put it in the card reader, and offload the 2-channel .wav or .mp3 files.

Get the Zoom R24. Its an 8 track recorder but you can link up 2 of them. Its a standalone unit that can record on to sdhc cards, up to 32 gigs. It can run on AA batteries so no need for a wall outlet. It also works as an interface that runs on usb. Its also a control surface for some DAW's. I've messed with it some and it sounds pretty good my only gripe with it is that in mobile mode it only records in 24-bit/48khz. But I can't hear too much difference between 96khz and 48. Pres are ok. I dont think you can use it to run a live show from this. I saw this new board from behringer, i know there just knock of shit but see for your self. Its the behringer x32. Its a 32 channel board with built in effects like reverb, delay, comp, parametric eq and other stuff but it records to a usb stick, i think up to 32 gigs. It records every track individually. It cannot be used as an interface but it looks pretty cool.

here are the links to the stuff i mentioned.

Zoom r24
http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-R24-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B003VOBLDW

BEhringer x32

www.behringer.com/EN/products/X32.aspx

I use internal recording on my DJM-S9, it sounds great. If I were you and looking for studio quality recording, either get a nice external card, or get something like this and run XLR's into it (i've done this for several live shows to capture the whole show).

I second Zoom. They're fantastic little recorders, especially for the money. I would recommend one of these two.
https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H6-Six-Track-Portable-Recorder/dp/B00DFU9BRK/ref=sr_1_4?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1504653648&sr=1-4&refinements=p_4%3AZoom%2Cp_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER

https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I/ref=sr_1_2?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1504653648&sr=1-2&refinements=p_4%3AZoom%2Cp_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER

The built in mics are excellent, in case you ever end up with no soundboard usage, and you can input a few sources when needed, while monitoring live.

Invest it in lighting and sound equipment

Couple of suggestions:

Microphone

Sound recorder

LED lights

Cheap and super useful reflectors

Remember to get a boompole, deadcat (fluffy thing around the mic to reduce wind noise) and a couple of stands for the lights/mic

If/when you are looking to upgrade your camera at school I'd heavily consider Blackmagic Design's upcoming pocket cinema camera. When your students can handle sound/lighting, upgrading to this camera will take it to the next level.

Honestly, neither.

You are better off with a used H4N like this paired with a shotgun mic such as this one. Many a low-budget documentary have been made with that very combo for many years.

On-camera mics simply will not get you the professional audio you need. They are good for scratch or emergencies, and that's about it. Also, this is gear worth BUYING and not renting. Audio gear doesn't loose value. All links in this post are referral links.

https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1527699189&sr=8-6&keywords=zoom+mic

Something like this will actually really clean up the audio. It filters background noise and captures the audio really well. Let us know when you start a podcast!

TL;DR - I bought "mini-XLR" AKG lav mics that I'm trying to connect to XLR, and failing.

First, let's just get out of the way that I got myself into this situation by -thinking- I'd done my research enough, but really, I'm a small-budget videographer who's pretty much just familiar with XLR, 1/4" and mini connections.

I bought a few inexpensive, well-reviewed lapel mics in a 3-pin "mini-XLR" connection, and bought an adapter from mini-XLR to XLR so I could use a regular XLR cable to connect to my audio recording kit. (I did this because reviews of the TASCAM DR-60D recorder stated that there was more noise through the mini jack input than through XLR.)

I am guessing, based on the resulting absolute lack of sound at any sensitivity, that they have different pin-outs, and I should have done more research. sigh

Is there a way I can unfuck myself here without a lot of trouble? Returning the mics is possible, but I'll have to pay shipping anyway, so I'm looking for the proper adapter instead. I've looked for days and have been unable to find a male TA3F to XLR adapter, and am starting to lose hope.

Should I just look for an adapter from male TA3F to quarter inch and use that in the multi-connection XLR jacks? Am I overlooking something obvious? Outside of "use more expensive equipment", what would you do here?

Thanks for your time!

When I first started recording my jams I got one of these and it worked great for recording everyone at the same time. You could use the rest of the money on sm57s or something like that. you wont have enough mics for everyone at first but you can go direct with the bass and synths and all that till you get more.

Even though I have a nice computer and pro tools now, I still bust out that tascam every now and again. Especially if I dont want to lug my mac around

Would something like the ZOOM R24 do the same?? (On mobile, dont know how to link, hope it came up as a link and not text)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003VOBLDW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1418331213&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

Well, first of all mixing and mastering are two separate steps and require different tools.

1. Using hardware to mix requires a mixer. 2. Using hardware to master requires different racks (eq, comp, rev etc).
   
   If you just want to use knobs to control the mix within ableton, you can always just get a nice midi controller with motorized faders something along the lines of this.
   
   

I've been glued to this subreddit since September soaking up all the information possible as the filming process began.



So we shot this with a Lumix GH5 with a 12mm-35mm lens. We had the camera on a JOBY GorillaPod but we couldn't get any sort of tape (Gaff, Duct etc) to get it to stick to the dashboard. So for the front angle we used the legs of the pod and hung it from the rear view mirror and shot the skit upside down. We put the lens on the widest setting and put it on auto focus.



For audio we used a Zoom H4n Pro. We placed it on a little stand resting on the center console on the 120 setting. All audio was captured on the day, none of it is ADR.



The biggest challenge in the edit bay was the fact that some takes we're done when the car was at a red light while some we're in motion. We had a 6 mile loop which we drove over and over and we just ran through the skit multiple times not really paying attention to whether we were moving or stopped. It was 48 minutes of footage cut down to 2:19 of actual skit.



As far as my involvement went, I co-wrote, acted, captured audio and edited the skit. I'm the guy in the blue shirt riding shotgun (Dane) for reference.




Would love any feedback, thoughts, or advice!

I like the Zoom-R16-Multitrack-Controller. Even better is the Zoom-R24-Multitrack-Controller.

I have a Boss Micro BR digital four track recorder. i have the original box and manual but you'd have to supply your own 9v power supply which is fairly standard on a lot of effects pedals, especially Boss pedals. Also runs on AA batteries and I'll include at least a 1Gig memory card.

http://www.roland.com/products/en/MICRO_BR/

http://www.amazon.com/Boss-Micro-BR-4-Track-Recorder/dp/B000LNC0DQ

Interested?

If you're the instructor, something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=zoom+recorder&qid=1567394655&s=gateway&sr=8-4

You can use it with an external mic, either hand-held/stand-held or lavalier mic, wired or wireless. Or, you can mount it on a mic stand and use the built-in stereo mics.

If you are a student sitting in a lecture hall, it will be hard to find something that will do a really good job unless you can set up a shotgun mic, but the above should work with a shotgun mic as well. You might also try a recording app for your smartphone before spending any serious money.

Yea, it's especially worrysome seeing as that my Korg D888 straight up bit the dust during a big recording one day.

FWIW, I went with this.

Thanks for the advice!

having a separate audio recorder can make a big difference.
I might suggest something like a Zoom H4n or a Tascam DR60 either of these will allow you to have your audio recorder not tied to a laptop during filming.

If you are going mobile, go all mobile. Get a portable interface like the Zoom H5. And check out this video as well.

To give you a straight forward answer, I would say no. I would use the laptop, an audio interface and as many mic as there are people (this could get pricey). an other alternative would be to have a portable recorder like a Zoom H4n Pro Handy Recorder. this allows you to record a room and plug in XLR cable with a mic.

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You have to keep in mind that when you are recording that the room will play a role in the audio quality (in other words... bigger room = more reverb/echo). the more people you have, the harder it will be to edit the audio since some people will talk louder than others.

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I started out using a Zoom H5 for my show.

https://www.amazon.ca/Zoom-H5-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B00KCXMBES/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1540021117&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=zoom+h5&dpPl=1&dpID=418XgnIJgnL&ref=plSrch

Slowly I purchased xlr external mics that plug into the bottom. Then I got an adaptor to add two more xlr mics to the top.

https://www.zoom-na.com/products/product-accessories/zoom-exh-6-dual-xlrtrs-input-capsule-zoom-h5-h6-u-44-f1-and-f4

I then moved onto boom stands and the likes.

I currently purchased an xlr splitter so I can go to 5 mics and now that I know it works will be getting a second splitter so I can go up to 6 mics.

get a Zoom recorder like H5 or H4n
($200) on amazon and bypass his crap, and tell him to his face why you bought it.

We use it on all our sessions/practices - handles high sound pressure great.
https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1525050448&sr=8-5&keywords=zoom

Thank you for your suggestions! I'm deciding between the TASCAM Dr40 and the Zoom H4N(the 2016 version) Any suggestions between the two?

Thanks! I use a zoom H4N:
https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I/ref=sr_1_5?crid=188MA6CEIRBXE&keywords=zoom+h4n&qid=1551376700&s=gateway&sprefix=zoom+h%2Caps%2C203&sr=8-5

You're not going to be able to find something more affordable than the 2i2. The most portable would be the Zoom series. They're amazingly good quality, and have built in preamp + recording capability. All data goes out of mini-usb, or SD card.

Zoom H4N 4-track recorder

Buy (2) Shure Omnidirectional Boundary Mics. Feel free to find cheaper mics if you want, but you'll need them to be XLR to work with the Zoom recorder.

Don't forget memory cards if you expect the meeting to go for a long time.

Thank you for the reply.

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Are you able to tell me a bit more about what the right hardware adapters would be?

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I am also considering using something like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DPOXS8I/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=wirerealm-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01DPOXS8I&linkId=9382e0d9bf5a4be789c79856961a39d5 instead of a phone but they seem to use the full mic inputs and not have 2 points of a AUX style lavalier mic input.

Just as I posted this I remember there is sterio microphones that have similar looking mic, I can't find the model your mics are for but I'm fairly sure that's what there for. Here is a example

https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I

It's definitely zoom

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https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I

LITERALLY just bought that lens and I can't wait to mess with it. And yes to FilmicPro: I'm still learning all it can do and how to do it well. I also got a tripod with an iPhone mount. For sound, a buddy of mine has this thing: https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1549574572&sr=8-4&keywords=zoom+field+recorder

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What have you used for lighting? I've looked into some DIY stuff, but not sure what to do.

Just be aware that there is an H4n Pro model that is new/improved (2016), obtainable for $200 (amazon and some Guitar Centers), and sounds good in my limited experience so far.

You can't go wrong with a Zoom H4n

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zoom-H6-Handy-Recorder/dp/B00E0HAQOE

I’d get a zoom recorder and a XLR wired Lav.



https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DPOXS8I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_3tFKAb7VHPA7M

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/295908-REG

https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I

I was right about Zoom. Cheaper than Boss too.

http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-R8-Multitrack-Controller-Interface/dp/B0052B9LGQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_267_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=513jqBihLdL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0FQDAAGTFPW1AD4Q8WHP

Hey man, I just found this article: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/equipment/hosatech-ymm-261-stereo-splitter/

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Where the guy says " My first choice for using two lav mics simultaneously is to run them into the Zoom H5‘s XLR/TRS combo ports, using 3.5mm to 1/4″ mono adapters. "

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Meaning with such an adapter I wouldn't need XLR lav mics and wouldn't need phantom power, correct? So I could use cheaper 3.5mm lav mics...?

https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I

I don't tape but if I was to, I would use this

https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=zoom+recorder&qid=1572900836&sr=8-4

I'd probably for for ....

• Zoom H4NPRO $200
  
• 3 Behringer 1800s $40
  
• Cables and mic stands and pop filters. $50 for it all
  
  So you are at about $290 and have an additional mic. Record right into the Zoom and then edit in Audacity (free) on the computer.
  

Sorry Lav microphone is a microphone you wear on your body somewhere, usually hidden under clothes or just on your collar. The Zoom H4N is a portable recorder https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H4N-Digital-Multitrack-Recorder/dp/B01DPOXS8I/

I have used one of these for recording just via the built-in condensor mic. It works alright, and you can get a fairly big SD card for it. Unfortunately, I have not been able to get high-capacity mini or micro SD to work in it with a standard adaptor. For rechargeable, you'd need to buy rechargeable batteries and a charger separately.

If you place it inline, you're just going to amplify the existing noise (unless gain-staging can be done to reduce noise at each stage).

Why not use something like this:


http://www.amazon.com/TASCAM-DR-60DmkII-DSLR-Audio-Recorder/dp/B00MIXFBL0

A portable handheld recorder might work. Maybe the Tascam DR-40, Zoom H1 or the Zoom H4. Though, I'm not sure how the audio and video would sync together.

Man you need to spend a bit more than that... Bad audio will ruin your shorts and if you want to create more than one short film...

This is the best audio recorder for me for your price range. They have even cheaper recorders because you need to buy a mic too. This one is ok. I'd recommend a lavalier, you can find cheap ones on ebay, but that's up to you...

The Zoom R8/R16 line (http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-R8-Multitrack-Controller-Interface/dp/B0052B9LGQ) is great for this. You can work entirely off of a SD card and then move it to a computer for mixing/etc later, but the computer isn't necessary. It also doubles as a control surface.

I had the R16 for a long time with my band but replaced it with a computer-dependent, much less portable interface setup. There are days I regret this decision.

En teoría va a continuar el 50% de tributo sobre el valor del bien importado que se encuentre entre 25 y 999 dólares. Lo que van a hacer es simplificar el proceso de importación, evitando que tengas que ir a buscarlo a la Aduana.

Si bien no cambia en nada la situación inicial de precios (onda, siempre fue más barato pedirlo y esperarlo que comprarlo acá) supongo que si se concreta el intercambio se arbitraría un poco más el precio de ML. Por ejemplo:

• Traerse una Zoom h4n desde USA sale con toda la furia 220 dólares (199 + taxes + shipping). Con el 50% de aduana, te queda $4950.
  
  
• Comprarla acá vía Mercadolibre sale $6773.
  
  (supuesto dólar de 15 pesos)
  
  Math! Aproximadamente un 26% más barato.
  
  Todo esto suponiendo que el producto te llega. Para tecnología "chica" o de poco valor de reventa, me imagino que sí. No te traigas un iPhone por que me da la sensación que te lo birlan en aduana. Igual tengo mi desconfianza de los muchachos de la Aduana, me gustaría conocer alguna de sus experiencias!
  
  Por último, supongo que paulatinamente también bajarán la tasa de aduana. Espero.

Hola!

Arranqué el proyecto Economista del medio el año pasado como una forma de llevar el laburo de analista de consultoría macroeconómica a un espectro de población más amplio, lo cual implica menos jerga y biribiri financiero. Este año se sumó la periodista de Infobae Jorgelina Do Rosario y empezamos a cambiar el formato del programa: hemos ordenado los temas y sumamos las entrevistas que le dan un valor agregado enorme al oyente. Estamos muy contentos con el resultado hasta ahora, tanto en calidad del material como en escuchas.

De la misma manera que como mejoró el material también mejoró el hardware con el cual grabamos. En su momento empecé con un mixer Behringer Xenyx 1202FX, un micrófono Shure SM58, unos auriculares Audio Technica M40x y una Zoom H4n. Luego de mi viaje a Japón me traje micrófono un Audio Technica 4040 (large diaphragm condenser) y ahí terminó el avance en hardware en 2016. En términos de software editaba (y sigo editando) el archivo crudo con el Logic Pro X de Apple.

Este año invertimos y nos trajimos (via Amazon Europa) un mixer Allen & Heath Zed60 10fx y un segundo micrófono Audio Technica pero el AT875r (un shotgun cortito condenser que es una maravilla). De backup tenemos dos micrófonos Audio Technica 2100 (los que son USB/XLR) que en relación precio/calidad son muy recomendados para los podcasters amateurs. En resumen, nuestro lineup de materiales es de primera calidad y para explotarlo al máximo, estamos intentando mejorar el tratamiento acústico del área donde grabamos para minimizar ruidos indeseados.

Como te decía, estamos muy contentos con las escuchas (en número general y en público en particular, es decir, los quienes). Hemos recibido comentarios de gente que nos sorprendió y eso nos motiva. Todavía no es LA masividad en escuchas pero queremos estar acá invirtiendo en esto para que cuando explote el podcasting en Argentina (porque va a pasar, que no te quepa la menor duda) tener una buena base y experiencia para seguir proyectándonos.

Lo lindo es que se están acercando algunos sponsors interesados en el material asi que significa que hay proyección a futuro. La verdad que al día de hoy estamos muy a gusto y cómodos laburando en el proyecto, que es para nosotros ahora lo más importante.

Por otro lado, una de las cosas más copadas que me pasó es poder grabar con una persona que conozco y confío de hace muchos años. Al principio hacerlo solo era más un desahogo pero laburar con alguien en esto, que aparte sabe y se mueve en el medio, tiene algo muy especial y divertido. Ese es un item que taché de mi lista de pendientes.

En materia de proyección a futuro y ToDos, creo que seguir mejorando y buscando calidad para ofrecer el mejor producto disponible en el mercado. En materia de hardware todavía tengo la espinita clavada por el Shure SM7b con su respectivo Cloudlifter pero por ahora estamos muy contentos con el equipo con el cual grabamos.

Saludos!