Reddit mentions: The best electric vehicle chargine equipment

You have a few options for chargers. The most common public charger is a Level 2 SAE J1772. An example would be this. This will charge almost all electric vehicles and a Model S uses an adapter for it that comes with all cars.

The cheapest way to add a plug would to just install an exterior NEMA 14-50 outlet. I had one installed at my house for less than $500. It depends on the electrician, but if you shop around you might get an even better deal. This works on any Model S as long as they bring their mobile charger. I am not sure how many other electric vehicles have an adapter for it, but I think Teslas are the only ones that come stock.

If you want the most professional and fastest charging option, and you only care about Model S (and Model X in the future), you can get the High power wall charger. This looks really nice and can charge a car faster than any other consumer grade plug (slower than a supercharger obviously).

TL:DR; If you care about charge speed

1. High Power Wall Charger (car needs dual charger set up to make use of the extra speed)
   
2. Nema 14-50
   
3. J1772
   
   If you care about compatibility
   
   
4. J1772
   
5. Nema 14-50
   
6. High Power Wall Charger
   
   If you care about price
   
   
7. NEMA 14-50
   
8. J1772
   
9. High Power Wall Charger
   
   If you want to charge for use, you might look into something like Blink (I think they might have gone out of business though), or just put a sign up to pay a few bucks. I assume you know, but a substantial charge will be more than a few hours.
   
   You can then add your info to a website like recargo.com and plugshare.com to share the information about your public charger.
   
   EDIT: also this page has information about a public charger. 10% of cost, or $2500, depending which is lower.

If you are spending this kind of money on a car, consider a charger that is on par with the car.

The EVSE you refer to is a portable and maxes out at 16A. But, if you spend something closer to $400-500, you can get a JuiceBox which can deliver up to the 32A the Bolt is capable of on 240V AC. What is the difference in terms of time? See below.

JuiceBox can be mounted for when you are at home, but is small enough to be "portable", though you would want to take some security measures to ensure it doesn't walk off if left unattended at a campground. Some suggestions are to park with one wheel over part of the cord so it can't be removed without moving the car.

Also, consider your daily need. If your daily use is <40 or 50 miles, 120V charging will typically meet your needs. So, an investment in a faster L2 EVSE may not be warranted if it is just for a one-time use. Weigh that vs the time it will take to charge. If 120V will do the trick for daily use, maybe something like this or this would be a decent compromise.

Finally, the EVSE that comes with a Bolt is 120\240V capable, but in US comes with a 3 prong 120V plug. It is apparently a JuiceBox item manufactured for GM, and in EU where 220V power is common, it comes with a plug that is compatible with local standards. I have seen posts of folks who have used a 14-50 adapter (search online or go to an RV shop), it still won't deliver the full 32A that a true L2 charger is capable of, but it should deliver similar results as the Maxx-16 or Zencar.

Here is a rough idea of charging times with various inputs:

120V\12A (Level 1) - ~4 miles per hour (about 1kW), or about 60 hours 0-100%

240V\16A (Level 2) - ~11 miles per hour (about 3.5kW), or about 17 hours 0-100%.

240V\30A (L2) - ~24 miles per hour (about 7.5kW), or about 8 hours 0-100%.

240V\32A (L2)- ~25 miles per hour (about 7.7kW), about 7.8 hours 0-100%.

These portable "L2" chargers like the one you referenced and the Maxx or Zen I linked are going to be in the 11 mi\hr range.

I don't have an extension cable, just the adapter I linked but evse does sell extension cables as well and since I've had a good experience with their adapter I'd probably buy extension cable from them as well if I needed one.

I would assume this would work but I'd be Leary daisy chaining third party adapters together which is what you'd be doing. Is the extension cable necessary for your use scenario? Could you get by with just the adapter and your UMC?

Here's evse's adapter. You could email them and ask them if it would be ok to use the adapter and extension cord together.

https://www.evseadapters.com/collections/adapters-for-tesla/products/heavy-duty-nema-14-50-extension-cord-for-tesla-20-ft

I'll also add that I just searched on amazon for Tesla 10-30 adapter and found this adapter. It also lists an extension cable that is frequently purchased together. I can't speak to the quality of these though but the reviews look positive. Always hard to tell. All I can say is the one I have has worked flawlessly and I used it nearly every day for a year. Here's the one from amazon though.

Conntek 30-Amp NEMA 10-30P Dryer Plug to 50-Amp Electric Vehicle Adapter Cord for Tesla https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00STD8S7C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_AvltybT8SJW5Z

• The SR/F uses the same battery that the current S/DS line uses, and I think Zero's mileage estimates resonate fairly accurately with actual use. The new model is slightly heavier than the other ones so the range is a little less than what they predict for them
  
  
• You could buy your own portable EV station and lug it around with you for 14-50 access, like one of these
  
  
• On a hot day if you're trying to do some sort of touring fast, you can overheat the pack. Ben Rich, YouTuber, did it with some of our fast chargers because he was basically going like 85 on a sunny July day and trying to recharge at 1C for multiple stops. You've got to watch the battery temperatures and adjust. Pack getting really warm? Drop it down to 70. I've personally taken several hundred mile trips and never gotten over 107F on the pack because I was riding conservatively for max range, but the SR/F's charging is... unusual at best in the US.
  
  
• I don't see a liquid cooled pack happening. Not unless the entire thing is totally redesigned.
  
  Lightnings still don't actually exist. Anyone can claim a concept bike. If you want faster charging and a nicer upright position, look into an Energica Eva. I actually have a line on some at a ... rather steep discount if you're interested and want to send me a message.

Absolutely, the main plugs you can find at RV parks and campgrounds are the NEMA 14-50, NEMA 5-15, NEMA 5-20, and the NEMA TT-30. The second number in each pair is the max amperage rating.

NEMA 14-50 - 240V50A, common at RV parks. Jesla Jr comes with one by default. Can get max amperage (32amps) on a 14-50 outlet.

NEMA TT-30 - 120V30A, common at older RV parks. I bought this adapter for these outlets. Unfortunately a restriction that it will only pull 12 amps off a 120V line. I still think it's a good idea to use this it available, as it's typically more robust wiring.

NEMA 5-15/5-20 120V*15(20)A, same restrictions as the TT-30, and these adapters are available straight from Tesla or QuickChargePower with the Jesla Jr. Also very common, but as you know, will take a whole weekend to charge you to full.

QuickChargePower link

I've been very happy with this, and it's my daily charger as well as my trip charger. In my garage I have [one of these](EVoCharge J1772 Holder (Holster) Dock for EV Charger Plug & Cord (Cable), Wall Mount (Note: Holder Only, EV Cable and Plug in Image are Sold Separately) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AVYFV9O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_O.m5Bb9EJDW97) mounted next to a NEMA 14-50, and it works great to keep it organized without putting strain on the plug.

The final charging item you might look at is a Jdapter stub that turns Tesla destination plugs into j1772 plugs, so you can use those at hotels. Since I'd rather camp than hotel, given a choice, I haven't bought one.

Remember that you only get the lesser of 50% or $500 for both the charger and the installation/ESA inspection for a maximum total of $1,000 incentive.

Some suitable alternatives:

Super economical charger that delivers near 5kw of power. Not hardwired but has a weird sized plug. Good for the Volt, but maybe not a future vehicle and also on the list of eligible chargers:
https://www.amazon.ca/Leviton-EVBL2-P18-Evr-Green-Electrical-Charging/dp/B0173JGZNQ

Another economical charger that gives you a little bit of future-proofing as it delivers 9.6kw of power and on the list of eligible chargers. Hardwired though so tougher to take with you if you're going to move:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01MY70I8N

ChargePoint chargers - good for future proofing, wi-fi connected, but a little more on the expensive side. Comes in both hardwired and plug versions. 10% off right now helps, but discount expires July 9:
https://www.chargepoint.com/en-ca/products/home/summersale/

I see no need for 240v. It is perhaps a move to future proof, but not needed right now. 12amp will charge the car overnight even if the battery is empty. As long as you have a good 15amp socket that can handle 12amp or a 20amp socket, you are fine to charge overnight.

If you want to leave a charger outside all the time too, I would recommend using a 3rd party charger to avoid having the factory one nabbed. I leave the factory one in my car for trips. I use this one every day and leave it outside: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075GJK2S9 It can work with 240v also if you do upgrade the outlet in the future, no need to buy another charger. The ends are easily removable and replaced for different outlet shapes with a screw driver.

You can also keep any charger out of the weather in a deck box if you need to charge outside because of no garage: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BWNZKI0 I use this one, cut holes in the back at the top. The charger sits in the box out of the elements and keeps the charger off the ground and makes it a little harder for someone to see it and nab it so I don't have to constantly put it in the car or inside. Also this is free standing, so no need to mount to your house. You can put it in the best spot near where your car parks and not on the wall of the house.

Depending on where you live state and local tax credits can help offset that cost. Some power companies offer credits and/or reduced rates as well. Nissan's website for the Leaf actually tells you exactly what rebates, tax credits, and other offers you'll be eligible for.

Also it looks like there are some cheaper charge station options out there that folks are happy with:
http://www.amazon.com/Siemens-VC30BLKB-VersiCharge-Electric-Vehicle/dp/B0083ZZFEA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394493461&sr=8-1&keywords=leaf+home+charger

It's not an insignificant investment, but over the course of a few years it's not all that much, especially given the unpredictable nature of future gas prices. It certainly wouldn't lock you into electric cars forever.

It really depends on how many miles you need to drive. L1 charging adds about 4 miles of range per hour of charging, so if you've got 10 hours to charge at night that means you'll get 40 miles of range per day. If your regular use is less than 40 miles per day in that case then you'd be fine.

You can also buy L2 chargers that plug right into your dryer outlet and will double (or more!) the charge speed, and there's no modification of anything required. You'd just have to plug and unplug the dryer and car charger every time you wanted to use one or the other, which would be inconvenient but not difficult. They are just as safe as using a L1 charger and are designed to be used that way. You just have to look at your dryer plug and make sure you buy a charger with the same kind of plug, since there are a couple different kinds of plugs for dryer outlets depending on how old your house is.

If you do eventually have an additional outlet installed for a dedicated L2 charger you could just have the same outlet installed as what your dryer uses and use the same charger you bought already, just plugging it into the new outlet so you don't have to swap it with the dryer anymore and don't have any additional expenses except the installation of the new outlet.

>Just wanted to make sure there wasn’t a generic mobile or home charger with similar performance as Tesla

So there are 3rd party mobile connectors you could buy that will plug into a NEMA 14-50 or other common wall outlets. You can find plenty of them on Amazon.

But most will cost you more than Tesla's $300 option and all will require you to use your J1772 to Tesla adapter with them. And I'm pretty sure there aren't any 3rd party chargers that have swappable plugs like Tesla's charger.

You can get a Tesla to J1772 adapter and use your Tesla EVSE.

There are a couple different companies that make them, the TeslaTap and the JDapter Stub.

They are a bit pricey at $230-$250 but cheap compared to another EVSE.

Since the EVSE that came with the Tesla is a portable one, if you want one that's a bit more permanent you could always buy a different J1772 EVSE and use it with either your Bolt or your Tesla (with a J1772 adapter that came with the Tesla).

Not sure what your idea of a middle of the line charger is, For a "budget" model (that's not super cheap) you might want to consider the Siemens VersiCharge. It's a 30A unit that can be bought for under $400, though I've heard people report that this unit doesn't work well with the Bolt's "time of use" charge feature.

The one I have is the JuiceBox Pro 40, as the name implies it can charge at up to 40A (if you have a 50A circuit to feed it) and it has a lot more features including reporting on usage and control with your phone. It's more expensive at about $550 and there's a 32A unit which is about $50 less expensive.

One big advantage of the Tesla to J1772 adapter is it would allow you to use your Tesla EVSE as a portable 32A EVSE for your bolt if you ever decide to take it on a road trip (though honestly your Tesla is going to be a better road trip car).

It depends on the type of outlet. First, try to find an official adapter from Tesla. With the official adapter, your car will automatically detect the correct amps and volts for the plug.

If Tesla doesn't make an official adapter, you can try to find one online that converts to NEMA 14-50 and use the included 14-50 plug from Tesla. The downside to this is that the Tesla will think you're using a NEMA 15-50 plug and will attempt to draw power for that type of plug. Before plugging in, go into charge settings and lower the amps to what the outlets is actually capable of. For a 30 amp outlets, lower it to 24.

For example, my garage has a NEMA 10-30 outlet. Tesla used to make an adapter for this, but they don't anymore so I had to resort to 3rd party adapters. I bought this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00STD8S7C/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482324615&sr=8-2&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=nema+10-30+to+14-50+adapter&dpPl=1&dpID=41KnxpPUD%2BL&ref=plSrch

This adapter works well, but I have to lower the amps to 24 before charging. I wish Tesla would just let me buy their official 10-30 adapter. It would be much safer since the car would automatically grab the correct amount of amps.

This one came with my (used) eGolf and it works just great! Easy to take with you as well.

Mine has been rock solid all around. You might want to also spring for the extra holster attachment they sell to hold the nozzle, or maybe something like this on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CP3J95D/

I got the one from Amazon and attached it to the side of my house near the Clipper Creek unit so that I’d have easy cable storage.

I have the 40A from Mustart. Bought it on Amazon for $359. Plugs into my 14-50. Bonus is that it's portable and 25' of cable. I live near a *ton* of nature and the 14-50 is a common RV plug. This charger comes with a bag. I went this way rather than a wall box because it's portable. Of course, wall boxes offer "smart" features that a charging cable doesn't and it's nice to have the "neat" look of a wall box. I wasn't terribly interested in those features vs. the portability and universality. Another great thing about this solution is that you can charge most other brands of EVs with it. You'll need to use the J 1772 adapter that comes with your Model 3 or buy one separately.

> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00STD8S7C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Tz4syb71ZFEVN

Thanks for the tip. I saw this adapter on Amazon as well. Do you think it could be just as good?

Depends what your purchasing factors are. Is cost your main sale point or is functionality like wi-fi options something you care for?

I recommend Juicebox if you want everything in one package: https://www.amazon.com/JuiceBox-WiFi-equipped-Electric-Vehicle-Charging/dp/B00UB9R4KO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1495805823&sr=8-3&keywords=juicebox+evse

Are you getting a 32a to future proof for other EVs/PHEVs?

How important is having a 240v charger right now to you? Can you get away with 120v?

If you're looking at getting a full EV in the next few years, I'd suggest something a little more reputable. The one you linked doesn't have a UL safety listing. Since you already have a 50a breaker (or at least you should, please double check that and the wiring gauge), if you're planning on buying something to use for years to come I'd suggest a Clippercreek with 6-50 plug. CC 40a - $660 or the CC 32a - $590

Or there are a whole plethora of EVSEs out there if you're willing to change the plug type (probably need to reduce the breaker to match the plug using the 80% rule?). They're pretty easy to change if you're handy. You could also pay $55 for an adapter.

If you don't plan on having more than a PHEV with 12a anytime soon, I'd suggest getting something a little cheaper, lower amp rating, and high quality (from what I can tell, don't own one.) The AmazingE would be plenty for you. It's cheaper, UL listed, a lot of internals are made by clippercreek and is very similar to some of the Chevy (IIRC) EVSEs. If my wife changes jobs, the AmazingE will probably be what I buy for her to charge our LEAF at work.


Full disclosure, I don't own a Niro and I'm not an electrician by trade. Check your local codes as needed.

Voltscreen

https://voltshelf.weebly.com/voltscreen.html

It will save you an $800 radiator repair.

Level 2 charger

https://emotorwerks.com/store/residential

They have awesome customer service.

Portable L-2

https://www.amazon.com/Duosida-Portable-Electric-Vehicle-Charger/dp/B018A6QK7C

https://www.amazon.com/Level-EV-Charger-Gear-Portable/dp/B074VP6Y2D

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1116393_should-you-buy-a-portable-level-2-electric-car-charger

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I'd also suggest replacing the factory headlights with LEDs, and
maybe replace the backup camera...

Then yes, you can charge at 6.6kw. (I think the Chademo port only came with also having the 6.6kw onboard).

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Personally I bought this 40A one for future-proofing, but the leaf wont use over 26A, so it was overkill. From other posts it sounds like you have a 14-50 recepitical in your garage, so look for something with a 14-50 plug like mine and whatever price you're willing to pay.

This is fine.

My tip: Get a portable L2 cord, it's really nice to have the option to L2 out in the wild. There are more 220v outlets than you think once you start looking. I used this 32A charging cord at a Plugshare site a little while ago and liked it: https://smile.amazon.com/Morec-NEMA14-50-220V-240V-Upgraded-Compatible/dp/B07FNZBR5W/

If you’re still looking for a replacement, I picked up [this EVSE](
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075GJK2S9) for traveling, and it’s worked great, and it was the cheapest I could find. Also looks like the one being used in the picture.

I had an electrician add two NEMA 14-50 outlets (each with a dedicated cable run from my main breaker box) plus a 20A circuit (3 outlets) for power tools. I bought this house 10 years ago and have suffered with a single garage outlet. I was glad to have an excuse to hire an electrician.
I bought this JuiceBox charger. The charging cable is so much heavier than the one that came with the Prius (surprisingly heavier) but it’s worth it. I ordered the charger on the day I bought the car and it took a week to arrive. 5+ hours to charge the Prius meant we weren’t getting the most out of the range. Now it charges in about 2 hours. I love it. And the charger can connect to your WiFi for tracking charging.
A quick tip in case you’re planning to run 240v to your garage. Consider future proofing by running as many outlets as you think you may eventually need. Place at least one close to the door so you can run the 25’ cable to a car parked outside. I think the cables are generally limited to 25’ length. Also, a 40A charger requires a 50A circuit.

I'm sure you could take it to an electrician and have them repair the cable.

Otherwise https://www.amazon.com/Zencar-Portable-Electric-Charging-Compatible/dp/B075GJK2S9/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=chevy%2Bvolt%2Blevel%2B1%2Bcharger&qid=1568658560&s=automotive&sr=1-3&th=1 looks pretty solid and can do 120V and 240V charging.

Allow me, someone who has two ChargePoints mounted in my front yard because I lack a garage and have a parking pad, to explain why this design is actually brilliant. The Amazon listing states:

>In order to save electricity, the light will dim when you move away from the charger.

Low light transmittance is very much the reason I opted for the ChargePoints over basically everything else in 2016: they have minimal lights, which was a requirement for this rather out in the open installation (I don't want to attract attention). The design is also rather bland, which tends to go over well with McMansion owners. It just blends into the wall.

Here are 4 options, and the electrical is pretty basic and can be very cheap if your power box is near your driveway. It is like putting in another stove plug or less. I'm building my own house and I've set up for when I buy an EV. My guess is if things are right you can get it in for $1,500 and then get the rebate back for 75%.

https://www.amazon.ca/EVoCharge-Certified-Connector-Hardwire-Warranty/dp/B00FVE9Z6U

https://www.amazon.ca/AeroVironment-Charger-240V-Amp-Cable/dp/B00AAKQWKM

https://www.amazon.ca/ChargePoint-Connected-Electric-Vehicle-Hardwired/dp/B071YDGJYZ/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_263_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=97V0HEZGHG41RQ4A7YW6 and a wifi one.

https://www.amazon.ca/Leviton-EVR30-B18-Evr-Green-208-240Vac-Hardwired/dp/B01MY70I8N/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_263_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=NMF82DPMY2RXV7WPCJG1

I live in a condo, where I won't be able to install a 50A circuit.

I do however have a NEMA 10-30 for my dryer in my garage. I'll use a 10-30 to 14-50 adapter and set my Model 3 to charge at 24A.
Should be good to charge at about 22 miles/hour using the UMC.

Good enough for my needs until I move to a new place.

Is there a good wall bracket/holder for the Gen2 mobile charger? Something like this thing that isn't overpriced?

No neutral connection on the 207 or 240V, so you'll probably need to transform that down to 110v for the freebie power. Also, not all places are free.

That being said, most laptop power supplies will take the 240v juice with no adapters needed, so if you're just charging batteries that's a good option.

I have the transformer, I just need an affordable j1772 jack.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A77GZ86 ($75.00 + $31.70 shipping)

We have a driveway situation for the 500e too. Our charger is plugged in a basement room with the charger cable fed through a wood panel (where a window used to be). I got a charger dock to hold the charger handle. It works great.

I’m confident you’ll be good, but I’ll measure it for you later tonight.

PlugShare is your friend. Visit the website, get the app, get familiar with charger locations.

Check to see if the car qualifies for the No Charge to Charge program from Nissan. This will allow you get charge free at select chargers for 2 years.

Nissan's EZ Charge app also tells you where the chargers that are Nissan compatible are. Bonus, it is also blatantly obvious about where you can leverage No Charge to Charge, again, only if you qualify for that.

When planning on going on a long distance drive, be familiar with where the chargers are along the way.

If you haven't already, look in to an L2 charger for use at home. Most folks will get a JuiceBox Pro 40A which enables them to track power utilization via WiFi. Bonus of getting the JuiceBox vs some of the others is that the JuiceBox uses the NEMA 14-50 connector, which enables you push more power later on. Basically buying for all electric cars you might buy, not just this one. Plus cheaper that the ChargePoint at home variant, though the ChargePoint at home Variant is handy for tracking charges at home, and not at home.

Get the apps for the Chargers in your area. As mentioned, there's ChargePoint, Greenlots, and others. PlugShare is good for finding the chargers regardless of brand/owner. The brand/owner apps are handy for actually using those chargers, and seeing whether or not they're in use, or online. When you get to the charger, the app can let you enable it, and track the charging status.

Don't be too worried about the charger vendor variants. It's basically like having RaceTrac, Wawa, Mobile, Exxon, gas stations and such. You might prefer going to one brand over the other, but it helps to know where the others are for when you're in dire need of a charge.

Other than that, just learn to leverage regenerative braking (B-Mode) while driving, and avoid hard accelerations, and hard braking.

Is it safe/fine to use a J1772 extension cord with my Model 3? I have this charging unit in my house from when I had a Leaf: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0083ZZFEA and even though it has a nice long cord, it still doesn't reach the back of my Tesla. It's a bit of a pain to back into my garage, so I was wondering if it's safe to use something like this with it: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CF8I4UW ?

Cheap and works perfectly.

Bastens mobile charger wall... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079RL6XL4?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

So I was lucky. My 100A subpanel was in my garage.

I had an electrician come and install a 240V/40A outlet about 2 meters from the sub panel. He went through sheetrock and didn't spackle (and neither have I). That was about $350.

I then purchased a Level 2 portable charger on Amazon. The electrician and I chose the outlet type, in my case I chose a NEMA 6-50. You get what you think is right for your electrical grid.

Here's the product link.

That was about $350 when I bought it.

So total expense to me was about $700.

Whether you want a "charging station" or "place to charge" is up to you and your aesthetics/finances.

Oh for the couple hundred extra I meant the smart ones.

$550 for the Juicebox https://www.amazon.com/JuiceBox-Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Station/dp/B00UB9R4KO

Chargepoint $520-$560 https://www.amazon.com/ChargePoint-Enabled-Electric-Vehicle-Charger/dp/B071YDJ1F6?th=1

OpenEVSE $550 https://www.openevse.com/stations.html

Those all get you web interfaces with reporting, ability to set charge times and rates, etc.

Add an holster plug next to it to properly secure the cable connector while not in use.

Something like J1772 EVSE electric car holster plug holder dock with cable hook.

It is fully connected Smart EVSE with V2G capability - the specs are on the amazon page https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T32RMJ2?fbclid=IwAR2SHHayTJtbIEqRpTk2MV3kpKUxsvNrSrh_PAZ5TtvXXyDs6YkcATWl0bk

Bought this for $300 and it's working well

MUSTART Level 2 Portable EV... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077DC39J9?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Best of my utility company gives a $250 rebate for putting in the L2 charger. Could have gotten a "free" 16a charger that was listed at $220 but I figured I have 32a why not get all of it?

ok, so like the second one I posted. The triangle in the middle isn't part of the plug receptacle. Well, that is an old dryer plug and to use it you would need a 10-30 adapter. Telsa sold these at one time but I don;t believe they do any more. The alternative would be an adapter like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Conntek-30-Amp-Electric-Vehicle-Adapter/dp/B00STD8S7C

BUT!!! if you were to use an adapter like the one above, a NEMA 10-30P to 14-50, you must manually set the amps on the screen of the car, otherwise you will overload the circuit. The car will think it's connected to a 14-50 (50 AMP) circuit when its actually connected to a 10-30 (30 AMP) circuit. The standard is to only pull 80% of the circuit so you should set the amps on the screen of the car to 24 when you plug in. This would still give you a charge rate over 7 times faster than a standard 110 outlet.

Edit: and to add, I have no idea where to get one of these adapters locally. They do not have a common use.

I saw this the other day if you really need to save the money, I dunno if I would trust my expensive car to a $200 charger but 🤷‍♂️

Zencar Level 2 EV Charger(100-240V,16A,25ft+3ft) Portable EVSE Home Electric Vehicle Charging Station Compatible with Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf, Fiat, Ford Fusion (NEMA6-20 with Adapter for NEMA5-15) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075GJK2S9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_VkHSCbMA4P9TR

Hey all! I asked my apartment about being a Tesla Charger partner and they applied! They also asked for a recommendation for a charging solution for all cars. Which one is considered the best for all EVs?

Edit, is this one advised? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UB9R4KO

> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A77GZ86

Not sufficient. The charging equipment doesn't supply power until the device at the other end of the cable performs a pretty simple hand-shake. See https://code.google.com/archive/p/open-evse/wikis/J1772Basics.wiki

The gas station is in front of the grocery store. That's the station I use since my grocery-store rewards card gets me a ~$0.30/gal discount.

So if I'm around 1/4 tank or less, then the next time I need to go to the grocery store I pull into the station first. Fill up. Then I park, which takes maybe another minute since it's 100' away.

It's definitely possible. I don't see how it would be possible for daily plugging/unplugging to only take me 10 seconds unless I was literally just throwing the wire/plug on the floor. But here, I can tell you exactly how long it took my wife this morning since I've got a camera on the driveway...

She puts her hand on the plug, unplugs, walks it back to the garage, whips the cable in to clear the garage door when it closes and plugs it on the dummy-plug on the wall next to the EVSE, then walks back to the driver's door. 16 seconds.

She didn't roll the cable. She didn't have to get the wind out of it (to be fair that doesn't really happen with our 3.8kW EVSE she was plugged into, but the 7.2kW EVSE is another story. And that time obviously doesn't include her plugging it in tonight.

I'd have to be literally racing to plug/unplug to do both in 10 seconds, and I'm still not sure it's possible.

Complaining about either is really meaningless. And like I said, I prefer plugging-in. But time-saving? Not IME.

We have Leviton 240 charging stations at work. They look like this. The cars with disconnect alarms enabled definitely go off if unplugged.

Yes, that's right. I replaced the stock charger with this:
reddit!

I bought this off of Amazon... works nicely.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079RL6XL4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_OpIkDbVP6TFCJ

Whoops. You're right. I like this one! https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00UB9R4KO/ref=pd_aw_sbs_263_1/137-5128408-0679733?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HQSVRYFPPHZRDQ6RGE6S&dpPl=1&dpID=51%2BkfiDRvML

Just buy a 3rd party one.

http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-30-Amp-Electric-Vehicle-Adapter/dp/B00STD8S7C

It was all separate. The charger cable and 50 amp wire I bought on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077DC39J9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HEHCMS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


The rest is from Home Depot.

I like having the Chargepoint because I already use the app for their public stations.

ChargePoint

Only the (I think) 2018+ model years come with an L2 EVSE.

To charge at L2 at home, you'll need to drop some cash on something like this, plus an electrician to install an appropriate outlet and breaker.

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2 tips:

-Consult the electrician first. Adding the required infrastructure could be costly depending on your situation.

-See if you can get away with just using L1. My first priority when I got my Leaf was to get an L2 asap. Then I saw the price tag and put it off for a while. Two years+ later and I've never had an issue charging on only L1 at home. Certainly depends on your commute.

Bastens Mobile Charger Wall Holder for The Tesla Model S 3 X Y to Relieve Stress on Wall Plug in Addition a Clean Look w/Ease of Quick Removal from Wall https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079RL6XL4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EBa1CbEHT3M88

I have a ChargePoint I purchased off Amazon. Works great and connects to my local hydro company to give me cost reports and scheduling. I have no complaints with it.

https://www.amazon.ca/ChargePoint-Connected-Electric-Vehicle-Hardwired/dp/B071YDGJYZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=chargepoint&qid=1567093583&s=gateway&sr=8-1

There are plenty of cheap EVSEs.

The off-brand 16A "AmazingE" is only $221 USD.

The necessary safety components such as built-in GCFI for high-wattage and subsequent certifications adds to the cost. (The AmazingE is not UL/CSA/etc. certified).

Risking one's $20K+ EV/PHEV over a few hundred extra dollars is foolish.

It's the JuiceBox Pro EVSE on amazon for $600.

They also have the regular JuiceBox (without the wifi extras) for $500.

Here's an example of an EVSE that isn't listed. This one's straight from China.

Holy cow. Did they sell you a Level 3 or level 2 charger?

A L3 charger uses the CHADEMO port on the Leaf (the left side one) and you do NOT want to be doing that on a daily basis. It's going to heat up and wear the pack out quickly. It is highly unusual to have such an installation in a home. If you do have such a beast, you are going to definitely want to limit the charge rate--probably around 10kW.

A L2 charger uses 220-240V and charges at a rate of 6.6kW on a 2018 Leaf. It plugs into the J1772 port on the front of the car. This is what you should install in your home as it charges roughly 5x faster than L1 charging at 110V. This would take 6 hours to go from 0-100%.

A L1 charger charges on a standard 110V outlet (like you use for any appliance in your house). It charges at a rate of 1.5kW. For a 40 kWh leaf, this would take something like 29 hours from 0-100%.

Typically a home user will have a 50A 220V circuit run to a plug on the wall. Then you would buy a Juicebox Pro 40 and charge with that:
https://www.amazon.com/JuiceBox-Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Station/dp/B00UB9R4KO?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-brave-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00UB9R4KO

If the charger is tripping the circuit breaker, something definitely sounds wrong. Keep in mind 22kWh is 100 Amps of current, which is a TON of power. You may be over-drawing what the house can provide and this could be a safety issue.

P.S. This info is valid for the US. Countries with 220V standard electrical service may differ.

Here is a wall holster for the handle.

You can search "J1772 Holster" on amazon and you'll get quite a few hits.

J1772 EVSE electric car holster plug holder dock with cable hook https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TBW1NRM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_9oMqzbVMB80PM

I also bought this holster from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CP3J95D/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_vH7RDb31ZWFRK

I mounted it on the outside of my garage and it keeps water out of the charging handle

Currently looking at this one

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FNZBR5W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YHsxDbJC6XDBV

Really just want the cheapest reliable option that I can get. Does it matter if it’s 16 amp? I drive about 60-70 miles daily and will have about 8-12 hours to charge when I get home

This one

It is great. I had this one, but it did not work with the delayed charging (it would not turn on when the car wanted to charge).

EDIT: it is a 30A charger at 240V, so you do need the correct 240V plug.

I'd actually throw the Juicebox Pro at $599 in the consideration mix as well. I'm thinking about getting it for all the smart/wifi features. It has most of the same features as the Chargepoint charger, but cheaper.

It's pretty clear that you can buy one of the adapter cables I showed from Amazon and never realize that you're doing something “wrong”. Buying an extension cable is not really “electrical work”.

But for those who worry, please do provide a link to some of these “cheap” UL-certified adapters. The Amazing-e is $257, which isn't nearly as cheap as getting an adapter cable.

(Buying a non-UL certified cheap adapter may be worse for risking your house burning down than the adapter-cable on stock-EVSE approach.)

you will want the one made specifically for EVs, the one you linked wont work.

This one will:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00STD8S7C

J1772 EVSE electric car holster plug holder dock with cable hook https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TBW1NRM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2r5IDb2RB5DNY

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I bought the same on amzn.
Conntek 30-Amp NEMA 10-30P Dryer Plug to 50-Amp Electric Vehicle Adapter Cord for Tesla https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00STD8S7C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Tz4syb71ZFEVN

I dialed the charge down to 30amps and breaker hasn't tripped Bc I think it's pulling 27-28 amps.

Here is the desktop version of your link

You can if you want.

I bought this one to use with the 120 volt EVSE that came with the car.

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https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00TBW1NRM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The home charge point charger would do this I think.i think it’s this

Why don’t you have a Nema 14-50 outlet installed and use a charger that has a plug? That way you can take the charger with you if you loose the garage.

Edit:
The install of a 14-50 outlet should be less then $500 depending on the length from the electrical panel. The charger should be ~$500. Portable Charger $379I think it would be about the same cost, but you now own the charger.

I looked up the MUSTART portable Level 2 charger on Amazon, is this what you're referring to?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077DC39J9

If so, I have two questions:

• Did you get the 32A or 40A version? Just asking because there's another Amazon verified purchase customer who claims to have gotten the 40A version for their Chevy Bolt 2019, but as the official docs say (and you said yourself), the Chevy Bolt 2019 maxes out its pull at 32A.
  
  
• Do you plug in directly to a NEMA14-50 drop on the wall, or did you get one of those NEMA14-50 to 120V adapters like this one?