(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best kabbalah & mysticism books

>This sounds like numerology.

Numerology is just the half-assed, watered down broken shards of gematria (the numerical aspect of the Hebrew alphabet).

>You're taking a major leap here, taking one word from two separate books, a word without which the document makes no sense, and implying that it is automatically assumed you're supposed to divide the two.

The word translated as line is QV, QVH is a variation on that. It would be like if I wrote 'line' in one place and 'lineh' in another. It doesn't make sense on the surface, but in Hebrew this sort of thing was very common, and the reason for it almost always relates to gematria. This is not isolated to these texts, it's all throughout the Bible.

>Additionally, you're saying that three is given in the text, and that is patently not true; three is derived from the text

Derived is what I meant.

>I invite you to provide examples of contemporary Ancient Hebrew documents that support your argument that math such as this is actually commonplace.

So you read Ancient Hebrew? I'm not familiar with it enough to search around for sites in Hebrew which explain this further. Do you have access to jstor? Because stuff like this is rampant on there. Just do a search for gematria and whatever you are looking for. There is always this book as well for a good introduction.

>I don't buy it.

Don't worry, it's on the house.

You know, I would have had a similar reaction to you about 10 years ago, but I have been researching this stuff for a while now, and I have seen just way too much of it to write it off as coincidence.

I'll give one more quick example:

מָשִׁיחַ = Messiah in Hebrew

Mem (40) + Shin (300) + Yod (10) + Chet (8) = 358

Ἰησοῦς = Jesus in Greek

Iota (10) + Eta (8) + Sigma (200) + Omicron (70) + Upsilon (400) +
Sigma (200) = 888

Χριστός = Christ in Greek

Chi (600) + Rho (100) + Iota (10) + Sigma (200) + Tau (300) + Omicron
(70) + Sigma (200) = 1480

Ἰησοῦς + Χριστός = 2368

888:1480 = 3:5

1480:2368 = 5:8

3:5:8

Messiah = 358 (מָשִׁיחַ)

Breslov Chasidus deals with this subject extensively. Check out the excellent translation of Meshivas Nefesh Restore My Soul as a point of entry.

Do you meditate regularly? If not then that is without a doubt what you should be practicing at, as those techniques can be used in all sorts of magics.

Kabbalah is confusing, yes. But nowhere near as confusing as Crowley. If you're practicing any sort of Western magic, you need to be familiar with Kabbalah and its spheres and its paths, because those spheres and paths relate specifically to Tarot. Try reading Lon Duqutte's "Chicken Kaballah" book. It's as simple as Kaballah gets, and it might be all the Kaballah you need. Hold off on Crowley until you have at least a rudimentary understanding of Kaballah.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007X6M4I0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

http://www.amazon.com/Kabbalistic-Handbook-For-Practicing-Magician/dp/193515088X

In this book he will go over a preferred reading list as well. Your choice of magic is up to you I prefer the Enochian only because I saw this sigil https://38.media.tumblr.com/97c9f4c2e15a3c651e177fae7e8e3920/tumblr_mypz74HWFw1sgmuomo1_500.gif during a very intense mushroom trip/ meditation. I experienced this sigil in 3rd and 4th dimensions, I had NEVER seen this before or knew anything about magic. When I saw that sigil my mouth dropped I had ONLY experienced it that one time. A demon did end up on the side of my house afterwards it lifted an industrial size trash lid and smelled like death and rot. My intent was this "Whether gods or demons show up I demand to know the truth behind human history." I then started meditating on gaining universal knowledge of human origin. I then saw this thing with my eyes closed and it was a real polygonal shaped thing spinning in multiple directions, impossible motions (4d). It left 3 toed imprints in front of my garbage can. Cat was freaking the fuck out at the 2nd story window where this thing came from. He has not in 1.5 years done that before or since.

SO yeah magic is real.

I couldn't tell it was an early prototype of Estimated. The song could have been an upbeat, country-ish sibling of Sugar Mag. The record library of babel would be akin to Borges' books-only version, where you could hear every possible song. (Geez, that was a cryptic reference!)

It's beginning to sink in how divisions regarding Kabbalah involve Noahides too. The Ger movement seems motivated by it's teachings, though I haven't read the book.

This is awkward. I don't feel like I have any business criticizing Kabbalah, but I can't avoid an opinion either.

That would mean if you study talmud academically through its strata, you'd be nullified as a witness, even though you were orthodox.

if only because the sage's conception of theological concepts don't necessarily mesh well with rambams.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Sages-Their-Concepts-Beliefs-ebook/dp/B009G3NGD0

(fyi, the writer was orthodox before he died of natural causes)

The nominal belief differences between a liberal orthodox rabbi and a conservative conservative rabbi are few. The differences are mostly sociological and internal identity based. and the nominal beliefs that matter are not ones that would disbarr a male from witnessing. If they were, then most of the sages also could not witness as well. Which would in fact be a radical notion unto itself, since technically speaking rambam is trying to pretend he is not making new law, and that the possibly of new law has completely closed.

So yes, it is highly probably that many conservative conversions are in fact valid. Just because people go feh to the conservative movement, does not in fact mean that what they did is not viable.

Read some stuff from Rebbe Nachman of Breslov:

• https://www.amazon.com/Outpouring-Soul-Rabbi-Nachmans-Meditation/dp/0930213149
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Restore-My-Soul-Meshivat-Nefesh/dp/0930213130
  
  His writing is intended for someone in your position!

I bought this book while in Yerushalayim which addresses this question quite thoroughly.

https://www.amazon.com/Garden-Souls-Nachman-Breslov-Suffering/dp/0930213394

>https://www.amazon.com/Garden-Souls-**Nachman-Breslov**-Suffering/dp/0930213394

Username checks out.

and the new book Son of Chicken Kabbalah

This one:

https://www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Kabbalah-Tarot-Spiritual-Transformation/dp/1934206369

A more complete explanation of this meditation is available here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YUCR1S

Are you aware Rick Strassman's current take on DMT is that it's purpose is to bring people into monotheism (in accordance with the Biblical Old Testament)?

https://www.amazon.com/DMT-Soul-Prophecy-Spiritual-Revelation-ebook/dp/B00OBHCLJ6

> Enoch is Jewish, not Gnostic. I assume this means the Epistle of Jude is also Gnostic propaganda.

The Book of Enoch is a gnostic expansion on Genesis, it is not canon in judaism, it IS canon in Eritrean, Ethiopian, and Coptic Christianity which follows the monastic traditions of the desert fathers, St. Anthony being one of them. There was a large influence on the desert fathers from Alexandria that led to the gnostic texts of the Nag Hammadi library. You can read more about gnostic and coptic canon in this book: https://www.amazon.com/Nag-Hammadi-Scriptures-Translation-Complete/dp/0061626007/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1520559631&sr=1-1&keywords=the+nag+hammadi+scriptures&dpID=51AWQnqkKKL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

> Alchemy is medieval, not Gnostic. Alchemy would require not being a Gnostic to perform since it's about matter and the whole thing about Gnosticism is escaping matter.

Alchemy is Egyptian in origin. The word Khem is an egyptian word that means "the fertile land of the Nile flood", the Arabs of the 7th century who developed the practice of alchemy that was brought back during the crusades added "Al" to the beginning of it which means "of the". So the word Alchemy specifically means "of the fertile land that the Nile floods", which is Egypt. Alchemy is an extremely ancient practice that taught us how to make beer in the fertile crescent and was developed spiritually through Egyptians. You can read more about it in this book: https://www.amazon.com/Kybalion-Hermetic-Philosophy-Ancient-Greece/dp/1603864784/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1520559579&sr=1-1&keywords=the+kybalion&dpID=51iaHGQejVL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

> "Greek kabbalism" sounds like "dehydrated water." "Exclusively Jewish mysticism for goyim." This really gives your sheer ignorance away.

Greek kabbalism is the origin of Kabbalah, it specifically deals with the Pythagorean cults that developed during the origins of philosophy. The greek and hebrew alphabets developed from the pheonician alphabet, which was alphanumeric. The pythagoreans taught a system of writing that took into account the numeric values of each word to entrench writings in triadic symbolism. When rabinnic theologians discovered this in the late dark ages Kabbalism was born. You can read more about it in this book: https://www.amazon.com/Greek-Qabalah-Alphabetical-Mysticism-Numerology/dp/1578631106

I am not a gnostic though, and I'm not trying to upend Christianity. I don't know where you're getting that. I'm not saying anything terribly controversial. I'm presenting evidence and historical fact, you haven't presented anything other than attacks on my character.