(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best men eau de toilette

Sure! So we're looking for something casual but classy for cooler weather and frrrrrigid winters, all-purpose wear, youthful but not immature, and most importantly, affordable.

Burberry Brit is a very good start. Burberry London might be worth a shot, too. It's sweeter and richer than Brit, trading vanilla powder for sweet, dark woods. A great fall/winter scent.

Tommy Bahama Men (the old one in the kidney-shaped bottle, not the new fruity one in the flask-shaped bottle, Tommy Bahama FOR Men). It's peppery and woody and warm, unsweet, very manly. Similar to Brit except lacking the rose/powder notes.

Versace The Dreamer - give this one a full wear before you rule it out. At first spray it smells odd, almost like rotting pine needles and burning plastic, herbal and spicy and weird. But after a half hour or so those notes fade and work to give a kick to a gorgeous tobacco, floral, and dry vanilla bean heart. Utterly masculine, but not macho or brutish like some stuff.

Bulgari Pour Homme: a slightly musty tea scent with classy florals. Fascinating and unique without being off-putting or out-there.

John Varvatos Platinum - another nice woody that works great in cool weather with a business casual attire. Dark and semi-sweet sandalwood. I am a fan of the entire Varvatos line and his nose of choice, Rodrigo Flores-Roux. They make fragrances that are simultaneously modern and classic, classy but not dated or stodgy. Also try John Varvatos, John Varvatos Vintage, and John Varvatos Artisan Acqua.

Prada Amber Pour Homme Intense - Woody-creamy and a bit red-spicy, it's a really nice designer fragrance. The skin-saltiness of myrrh and labdanum carries a soapy vanilla/amber/floral heart. As with most of the Prada line, it's a bit abstract and chemical-y but in a good way.

As always try before you buy. I'm making some assumptions about your style and taste recommending these.

Top shelf:
Van Der Hagen shaving brush.
It actually works pretty well, and is my most commonly used one.
Art of Shaving sampler pack brush brush.
I like it, but it seems to take me a lot longer to build lather.
Dolce and Gabbana Light Blue.
Not much to say about it, the wife likes it!
Adidas Aftershave
I like the smell of this one, and it pairs pretty well with the D&G
Coates Lime Shaving Cream!
I love the smell of this stuff! I have Sandalwood too, but it mostly sits in my small chest of things I have for "Another day"
Feather blade bank
Keeps my trash bags from getting ripped open. I have been using it for over a year, and it isn't even half way full yet.

Middle Shelf:
Lady Gillette Safety Razor
This one is the Wife's she loves it and uses it exclusively after she realised how much better it was over cartridges! It did take a while for her to stop thinking that she was going to Sweeny Todd her legs with one.
Gillette Knack Safety Razor
I use this one pretty much every shave. It is fairly mild, but paired with some Sharks it really works well for me!
No Name razor I picked up at an Indian Bazaar for $3.
It has about a 2 inch gap(exaggerating here, but it is huge!) between the blade and the head, so I haven't used it and probably won't! But it is pretty on the shelf!
Styptic Pencil
It works! And gets used!

Bottom Shelf:
Gillette Travel Tech
It has a small mirror inside and an old pack of Gillette blades. Nothing real special but I like it! I haven't shaved with it yet, the handle seems too short.
The rest of TAoS Starter Kit
I haven't used any of these yet, I still have my own soaps, so these kinda just sit around... I should try em though!
Gillette 40s Style Super Speed
I got this off an ebay auction, I haven't tried it out yet either. It came in great shape though! And I plan on giving it a test run tonight!
Gillette Milord
Apparently, it is the same razor as the Super Speed, but with gold plating. Also came in great shape, and I haven't tried it out either!
Shark DE Blades
These are my go to blades! I love em!
Wilkinson Sword Classics
I was buying these guys at Walmart, and I loved em! But then I got Sharks and I haven't had to buy anything else because of how many Sharks I still have left over!
Merkur Blades
I haven't tried these, I honestly have no idea how they came into my possession. They look nice though!
Alum Block
It works great!

That's a mighty big question there. I won't go into department store brands, as you should really just swing by the fragrance counter at any store and try them. So here are some ones that I personally like that definitely don't break the bank. I stuck to my summer scents, but there's no rules about what you can wear or when.

I would highly suggest researching any suggestion that sounds good to you a bit more on forums like Basenotes just to see what others say, as you always want at least a second opinion before you blind buy anything. If you feel like just trying out a bunch of scents, there are good decant (bigger than samples) sites like Surrender to Chance or The Perfumed Court where you can get 3,5,8mL samples that will last quite a solid amount of time. Long enough to really get a feel for a fragrance as it works on you. It's not a cheaper way to do fragrances, as you're paying for convenience. But, since your only other option is a few whiffs at a department store or a blind buy, there's some good reason to pay the premium.

I'm terrified to recommend blind buys, but if there was ever a low-risk/high-reward ratio winner, it would be : L'Eau D'issey Pour Homme.

Then there's a lighter, basic summer citrus, with enough melon to keep it interesting and enough bergamot to keep it from being orange juice: Ferre Bergamotto Marino I wouldn't exactly call this one similar to the Issey Miyake but would call them too "clustered" if they were my only 2 bottles.

I'm a big fan of vetiver-notes in the summer, as it never sits too close to any other type of fragrance, especially the usual department store suspects (nothing wrong with those!) that you smell often. The best Vetiver circa $50 at any volume, and you get a tub full of it: Comme des Garcons Vettiveru. Green and clean in all the best of ways! But you definitely want to try a Vetiver (any vetiver) before you buy any full bottle. It's a great scent to mix into a rotation but probably not your one-bottle-quiver.

Tech note: the second two suggestions are EdC's but wear like EdPs, which, if you're not reading /r/fragrance, just means they're not as light as Eau de Colognes generally are relative to their more concentrated Eau de Parfums siblings. Terms are just a hierarchy of how much fragrance they have relative to unscented filler used as a carrier. But like everything in fragrance there's not a lot of hard rules.

And for my last trick, try this guy: Generic ISO E Super Don't bother going down the rabbit hole researching this "Molecule 01" as it's branded. I'm sure I'll get yelled at for even suggesting it. But it's nothing fancy; it's a synthetic that's used in a lot of fragrances, in fact. The dicey part is that a company decided to try as a one-note-wonder. Nothing wrong with one-notes per se, except it's a bit dirty charging $150+, implying that this synthetic is derived from moonlight and unicorn dust, when it's a generic $2 chem experiment. So there's a lot of animosity surrounding it. Nevertheless, it has its uses. For one, it's light. Nothing sticky about this on any summer day. Next, it lasts all day. Not like you doused yourself in Grandpa's cologne at all though; it's staying power, not volume. It has this weird way of disappearing for minutes, hours, etc, and then popping up again. Never smells stronger or weaker, but just waxes and wanes during the day. Which frankly I find kind of nice. Finally, and perhaps most interestingly, it layers really well. Throw it on your skin before you get dressed so it's not right up in your face. Let it sit while you do your morning routine. And then use another "real" fragrance (play around!) on your skin after you're dressed but before you leave the house. The synthetic will last forever and subtly change the way your "real" fragrance smells. Not like you hosed yourself with two different bottles. This synthetic in particular is "cedary" so it can darken up some citrus and natural, light, scents. There are other synthetics, including another sold by that ebay link, but I haven't found it to play as nicely. But it does open the door to more experimentation and modification by you as the wearer of any fragrance. Probably not your best solo pick though.

sorry to all the haters, I'm just going with bang-for-your-buck utility here, and there's a solid amount of utility in ISO E super. Note that some people legitimately can't smell it at all, due to the synthetic's physical size, IIRC. Smell is pretty subjective but this guy can literally be a non-entity to some, you included. Hence, another reason to buy the generic (literally ISO E Super mixed with some perfumer's alcohol) and just play with it.

Sorry for the long post. But basically, just have fun with it. Try decants/samples instead of buying a full bottle so you can do a pub-crawl of scents before you commit, if you're on the fence after reading too many conflicting reviews (which often happens.) Good luck!

1: Learn to like yourself. Don't be vain, but do be proud. This makes a big difference in your physical appearance. Really, it does.

2: Be happy. My god, happiness is insanely alluring and people can spot it from a mile away. If you're not happy, use that as motivation to change in order to become a happier person.

3: Be interesting. "What do you like?" "Oh, the usual stuff." Well then, who cares? ...I like taking pictures of city details out of context. That may sound weird, but it's interesting, and it's gotten me a ton of dates for going on photo walks, which often turn into a pub crawl, and that's fun. I've had women tell me point-blank that interesting is sexy.

4: Find a few clothing basics that work for you. Build a wardrobe around a few key pieces. It's a great place to start. Dark jeans that really fit you right. A few great shirts. Start with a few key pieces.

5: Use your camera a lot when trying on clothes, or at home to evaluate what you already have. The mirror lies, but photos usually don't.

6: Smell good, but don't overdo it.

7: Get in shape. You don't have to live in a gym, but you do need to be active.

8: Be yourself. Too many people are fooled into believing that being different is bad or weird. Eff that.

9: Smile.

10: Last, but not least, get rid of any clothes you wouldn't want to be seen in. Donate them to Goodwill. One of the easiest ways to always look good is to not let yourself wear things that look bad. And yet, we all keep ugly stuff in the closet, right? Create a rule where, each time you add something to your wardrobe, something else gets the boot. Don't hang on to anything that does you no favors.

P.S. Good luck!!!

As you have a taste for the classics, here are four fragrances that you'll at least find interesting, even if they don't necessarily appeal to you personally.

1. Geoffrey Beene Grey Flannel is a rather unusual, HUGELY influential fougère released in 1975. Its top notes are chiefly comprised of violet, petitgrain, and iris, which give it an odd, slightly bitter floral top that at times may seem almost eerie. I once heard it referred to as "the Dark Heart of the Wood in a bottle," which is about the most accurate characterization I can think of. It's rich, mossy, and VERY smooth, but definitely not for everyone. It's also incredibly cheap these days and I picked up my first bottle at a local CVS, so it might be worth the $16 blind buy for an ounce. It has incredible longevity and is intensely powerful, so I wouldn't use more than one or two sprays at most.
   
   
2. Halston Z-14 is a soapy, strikingly green leather chypre dating from 1974. Largely forgotten, it was also enormously influential, and you can find it in little hole-in-the-wall fragrance shops at highway factory outlet malls. It runs about $18 per bottle and is characterized by its skillfully blended, scintillating lemon top notes layered over a soapy green chypre base interspersed with the leatheriness of isobutyl quinoline. It's another tremendous powerhouse and I can get about 8 hours of wear from two sprays. It was released in conjunction with Halston 1-12 and legend has it that Roy Halston Frowick (aka "Halston") couldn't decide between the two perfumes, so he decided to simply release both instead. The names are rumored to come from the perfumers' designations when working on the scents.
   
   
3. Antonio Puig Agua Lavanda (sometimes just called "Agua Lavanda Puig") is a remarkable lavender fragrance from Spain. Though officially characterized as an aromatic fougère, it's really more of a lavender soliflore and is one of the cleanest, most skillfully blended fragrances I have ever encountered. Importing the beautiful green glass bottles from Spain costs a fortune (and Puig sadly does not export them to the States anymore), but you can buy a huge bottle of body splash from Amazon.com. Don't be fooled by the name, the price, or the fact that it says "for women;" it's the same stuff and gloriously beautiful. Unfortunately, as an Eau de Cologne (no matter what bottle it comes in), it doesn't have tremendous longevity, but it serves as a wonderful layering base for my next recommendation, and I often wear them together.
   
   
4. Still one of the greatest lavender perfumes on Earth, Pour un Homme de Caron was created by Ernest Daltroff and released by the House of Caron in 1934. It's a very simple combination of lavender, cedar, vanilla, and musk (the cedar is there to bring out the woody facets of the lavender) and used to contain a perfume base made by the House of DeLaire called "Mousse de Saxe." Sadly, the formula for MdS is long gone, as is everyone who ever knew it, so PuHdC has seen a couple reformulations, but it's still spectacularly good. You can find it on Amazon for ~$30 a bottle. There's a certain trick to wearing it, though: a single spray or two will develop a "doughy" quality due to the vanillin content, so the best way to wear the stuff is to layer it on top of itself: spray it five or six times in the same place on your wrist, then five or six times in the same place on your throat. The layering will bring out the lavender and musk more and keep it from smelling too sweet. It will also increase the longevity, which goes up to around six hours or so.
   
   Hope that helps a bit.

It is absolutely retarded to pay more than $60 for good jeans. I wear American Eagle brand. I think they fit well, look good for $40, and are pretty resilient.

I think that despite what the guy above says, shorts should go to just below the kneecap, any shorter and you look like an old man.

I definitely agree that wearing a nice pair of jeans with even a decent t-shirt and a blazer makes you look loads better than every other buster out there. If you want to be really cheap like me, go to goodwill for blazers, if you look hard enough, they have some good stuff there.

For winter, I have a couple thin sweaters (mostly v-neck) that go well with a collard shirt underneath and a blazer.

If you listen to the guy above, you'd be paying tons of money for name brands-even though he says to avoid it. you should just have some general rules and find whatever works with them.

Glasses. I wear Oakleys because they work for me. Aviators are good, but again, you have to pay at least $90 for any decent sunglasses. Avoid at all cost Ray-Ban Wayfarers noted above, you look like a hipster douche. JUST. DON'T.

I recommend avoiding getting something because it's an obscure brand or design. There's being different, then there's being different to be cool. The latter doesn't work. Don't try to be cool, try to wear comfortable semi-casual attire that makes you look respectable.

One thing that's just as important as attire is keeping yourself well groomed, well washed, and clean smelling. Avoid musky or very strong cologne, I go with Ralph Lauren Blue, which has gotten me many compliments from good-looking girls(and is relatively cheap). Remember that cologne can change smells based on your body chemistry and how it interacts with your natural smell.


Just keep it understated, not flashy, and make it look well put together and you'll be fine.

Don't use Axe! Dear God don't use Axe.

Showering with a good soap should be enough for most people. Pick a soap like Dr. Bronner's or Kirk's Castile. Natural soap, and not a detergent. This will make sure you get clean and not masked.

You could go Aftershave, but most of those have alcohol and can dry your skin. I personally don't use aftershave, just a good unscented face lotion.

Fragrance is something that isn't necessary, but if you find you like scents, you need to explore what you like. For many its a hobby. This is a great forum for exploring scents.

http://www.basenotes.net/forums/24-Just-Starting-Out

You can buy samples from many places, I like this place:

http://www.luckyscent.com/shop/section/2/page/1/MensFragrances.html


I like to put 2-3 sprays of a good spray at the base of my neck. The heat from you pulse should extend that enough to project, but not be annoying. Don't be the guy who projects through a zip code.

A couple I like that I think are versatile:

http://www.luckyscent.com/shop/section/2/item/21901/brand/Comme_des_Garcons_Series_3:_Incense/Kyoto.html

http://www.amazon.com/Terre-Hermes-Men-Toilette-Spray/dp/B000JLCW56

http://www.luckyscent.com/shop/section/1/item/41835/brand/Amouage/Memoir_Man.html

I suggest going down to CVS or Target for your balm...

Duke Cannon Ice Cold or Cremo Cooling balm at Target is about $2.50 / ounce, so $10 for those (roughly), and CVS offers Aqua Velva 5 in 1 Sensitive Balm for about $6 (forget the product size, maybe 3 ounces?). You can also get the AV from Amazon for less, depending on seller.

IMHO, any of these three mentioned outperforms any currently offered artisan balms, and at a cheaper price point. The scents are mild, pleasant, and fade quickly, and that last point is seen with all artisan balms also, so is kind of a standard characteristic.

As far as EDTs, also suggest moving away from artisans, at least until you have funds built up and preferences established.

Grey Flannel is all of $17: https://www.amazon.com/Flannel-Geoffrey-Beene-Toilette-4-Ounce/dp/B000C1UEZI/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1539875209&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=grey+flannel+cologne+for+men&psc=1

Paco Rabanne PH EDT = $25: https://www.amazon.com/Paco-Rabanne-toilette-Spray-Ounce/dp/B000195QUO/ref=pd_sim_194_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000195QUO&pd_rd_r=9f98cdfc-d2e7-11e8-b4d0-e1b91b9d888c&pd_rd_w=PX1it&pd_rd_wg=9FEW5&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=18bb0b78-4200-49b9-ac91-f141d61a1780&pf_rd_r=VGKK7S8TY20TGP2RN09Q&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=VGKK7S8TY20TGP2RN09Q

VC & A Tsar roughly the same price: https://www.amazon.com/Van-Cleef-Arpels-Toilette-Ounces/dp/B000CNP4HO/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1539875354&sr=1-1&keywords=tsar+edt

As is Aramis by Lauder: https://www.amazon.com/Aramis-Toilette-Spray-Body-Shampoo/dp/B000GSVJCY/ref=pd_sim_194_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07HJS653R&pd_rd_r=df727a40-d2e7-11e8-99db-c5033403ba63&pd_rd_w=G03Iv&pd_rd_wg=41Axs&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=18bb0b78-4200-49b9-ac91-f141d61a1780&pf_rd_r=CN4KW05R616MJBSDPD6A&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&refRID=CN4KW05R616MJBSDPD6A&th=1

Not even mentioning Brut or Old Spice! (Aim for EDC or EDP in both of those, not the aftershave.)

Anyway, you may not like each and every one of these fragrance choices, but based on what you've said so far, you seem to be OK with smelling like something other than "the ocean", or "fresh". So all of these are worth a try, and a 1.7 oz bottle of any of these will last you for 7 or 8 months, assuming constant use of three spritzes per day.

Most artisans are good at making soap. A very few are also good at making scents, but to me, it makes more sense to try older, cheaper classic scents first for best value and the most bang for the buck.

I've been there. It's tough. The real question is have you really prioritized your spending? Like really done so. Once you have paid for the absolute essentials, what is left over? Video games, netflix, beers, snacks which are not nutritious, going out to eat at any point in time, buying coffee at any point in time that is not a date... these things are not essential. I locked down spending hard, I went out to eat literally once per semester at the end to celebrate. Famous Daves both times. If you have a cafeteria plan, run TRAIN on that buffet and then blast out some lifts. Absolute perfect opportunity to build muscle. There's a reason NFL players eat buffet style as part of their job.

When you don't have the cash you must sacrifice other things first. I gave plasma biweekly until they stabbed clean through my vein and I passed out, leaving me with a bruise that went from wrist to shoulder. It was good enough cash though

Second, you can get decent clothes at second hand stores for waaaay less money. You don't need to be fashionable. You just need good looking clothes that fit you well. For example, if you can go get a second hand Henley shirt that fits tightly (provided you lift... you lift right?) it will look good and cost like $10. Fit > Everything else. As long as they make sense in your context. Luckily in college most everyone is broke, so you only need to look better than other college bros. If you cant spend on a nice haircut, go with a buzz. They are masculine and super low maintenance. If you cant afford even a trimmer off Craigslist you're either 100% broke or not prioritizing it. Where there's a will there's a way

Example outfit available secondhand that shouldnt be too hard:

• dark form fitting jeans
  
• tight fighting henley
  
• decent looking pawnshop watch
  
• some sort of metal necklace (<$15)
  
• Buzz cut
  
• facial hair
  
• this cologne http://www.amazon.com/Estelle-Ewen-Toilette-Spray-Ounce/dp/B0037ZM5OY (smells great -- sweet and not too musky, very inexpensive)
  
  Done. As long as you lift, that will look good and be cheap as dirt. Don't leave out the accessories. SMV PLUMMETS if you look "boring," you want to look approachable -- not so flashy you get pegged as a monkeyboy PUA jester, but not so boring that you get pegged as BB. You want to have an edge that makes chicks think that you're fundamentally good, but you have some issues "they can fix." Thus -- tatts, leather jacket, etc. Those are not cheap though.
  
  Last point, if you are taking out loans already for school, take out a little extra for this. DO NOT USE THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO SPEND RECKLESSLY! However, I definitely made the choice to pay back a little extra debt later and be able to capitalize on the wealth of opportunity that is college. Just don't be an idiot and buy stupid shit with that money.

SOTD 24 April 2019

> Preshave: Shower

> Razor: Gillette Super Speed 1940's

> Blade: Voskhod (Shave #2)

> Soap: Stirling Iced Pineapple

> Brush: Stirling Boar

> Postshave: Alum, Nivea AS Balm, Masculin Acier EdT


I got the Stirling Iced Pineapple soap sample free in my last shipment. I love menthol/glacial soaps, ordered all from Stirling except this one -- living in a tropical region, I wasn't sure about getting something with a popular smell. But in the end I did end up with a small sample, and I couldn't be happier.

I didn't plan to take a photo to post but changed my mind while shaving. And since we're in the tropical theme, I grabbed a couple of leaves from one pineapple plant and a piece of mint from the garden to use as prop. That changes from my usual boring photos.

The soap itself smells veryyyyy ripe pineapple, like something you'd want to take a bite of. The pineapple scent is very dominant over the menthol scent as opposed to the mentholateum-balm smell of Frozen Tundra (I haven't shaved with it yet, stay tuned).

I guess I say that in all my SOTDs, but Stirling Soaps are great at lathering. The pineapple scent gets less pronounced in the lather. After applying the lather you'd start to feel the menthol burn on your face. More burns when you're lathering for your next passes.

Did three passes and I was done. The final cold water splash to wash off the remaining lather off my face felt great. Finished with alum followed by Nivea after shave balm and some Eau de Toilette.

Happy Wednesday!

This is terrible advice!

He says he's low on money and wants to smell nice and your response is, "Tough shit, you gotta break the bank."?

Go to Macy's and sample some shit, but you certainly don't need to buy a big bottle and pay MSRP. Find a smell you like then go on amazon or some other awesome perfume deals website that I'm not aware of and find what you want at a better price.

Here's an example: You're in Macy's. You try this shit on. It smells nice. You notice it's over $50 so it must be awesome (according to this arbitrary internet price point). But man, $59 for a little ass bottle of cologne. And even worse, the saleslady is trying to sell you the gift set because you get 800% more smells for free! Tell her no thanks, get your ass to a computer. Sign up for free super saver shipping for a month and buy the same fucking thing from Amazon for $42 instead of paying $59.

idgi.. . anyways, i cant post on there(reddit nub here).

the 2 colognes he suggested by armani, i wore those in high school(27 now) . . . i wear ecko blue (would buy on sale when ecko site was selling, come out to 20$) and have been complimented on it alot because its a pretty fresh(cirtus) when i just "hang out" in town or chill with friends. if im planning on going to the bar( and have a fresh hair cut/shave, etc, hoping to get lucky) i wear versace or antonio banderas (the box has a picture of him; i keep my cologne on my nightstand and in box so they are more stable, friends asked me y the fk i have a picture of antonio banderas next to my bed, lolzzz) when i "go out"(night clubs, formal), i wear tom ford(it was like 50$ on amazon after gift card).

Reinforcing what /u/josh1189 said, it's really about finding what works best for you.

It's going to be a combination of finding a smell you like, plus getting the reaction you want. I get comments about my cologne a lot. I think it smells pretty fantastic, plus I think it somewhat embodies the kind of person I am.

As far as recommendations go, can you be a little more specific as to what you mean by "generic store brands"? Because I wear Polo Black, and I'm wondering if you consider that a generic store brand as well.

Also, couldn't hurt to go somewhere like Macy's and just test what they've got. It'll give you the opportunity to sample a pretty wide variety.

With things like lotion, I go 100% unscented. I don't really enjoy having four different smells on my body at once.

• https://www.amazon.com/Old-Spice-Endurance-Original-Deodorant/dp/B00UB7B920/
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Neutrogena-Cream-Norwegian-Formula-Fragrance/dp/B004AIAVYS/
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Polo-Black-Ralph-Lauren-Men/dp/B000C1W3JS/

I like Eau Savage by Dior. It's citrusy and smells really classy. It's also pretty classic. I also have a stash of Burberry Brit. Both were pretty inexpensive ~65$ and get me plenty of compliments. Some of the dudes in this thread are throwing out colognes that cost upwards of $200 -$300 bucks a bottle. Forget that. Save your money. Cologne doesn't have to be super expensive to smell nice.