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Found 4 comments on A History of the Spanish Language:

u/trivenefica · 3 pointsr/linguistics

For a history of Spanish, I thought this book was excellent:

https://www.amazon.com/History-Spanish-Language-Ralph-Penny/dp/0521011841

u/profeNY · 3 pointsr/linguistics

I respectfully disagree with the statement that
>the increased use of auxiliary verbal tenses, especially passé composé, is probably due to Germanic influence.

First, according to the language histories I've consulted (by Romance scholars Ralph Penny and Rebecca Posner), the compound past tense (with habere) was already present in spoken Latin.

Second, in contrast to the "not universal" claim in Wikipedia, Posner states that "nearly all the Romance languages make some use of a compound perfect".

Third, Posner (former Chair of Romance Linguistics at Oxford, and a great writer!) specifically disparages the Germanic hypothesis:
>Some commentators have implausibly attributed the use of the ESSE auxiliary with some intransitive verbs to the influence of German, where the distribution of haben and sein auxiliaries is similar, but others have linked it to stative and passive uses of the ESSE auxiliary.

Finally, according to Bernd Heine and Tania Kuteva's World Lexicon of Grammaticalization the evolution from a possessive to a perfective is "mostly confined to European languages," meaning that it's also found elsewhere. I wish they were more specific on this point; the only other language they give as an example is Cantonese. I also wish they discussed the être-based passive.

u/MysticCynic · 3 pointsr/linguistics

Not sure if this is what you had in mind, but I believe Ralph Penny's History of the Spanish Language is an authoritative text on the evolution of Spanish language. I used it in a Spanish philology class. IIRC it goes into great technical depth.

u/MiaVisatan · 2 pointsr/languagelearning

Here are the ones I have and that I recommend:

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SPANISH

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The Story of Spanish: https://www.amazon.com/Story-Spanish-Jean-Benoit-Nadeau/dp/1250049040

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The History of Spanish: A Student's Introduction: https://www.amazon.com/History-Spanish-Students-Introduction/dp/1316507947 (available now from: https://www.bookdepository.com/History-Spanish-Diana-L-Ranson/9781316507940)

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A History of the Spanish Language through Texts: https://www.amazon.com/History-Spanish-Language-through-Texts/dp/0415707129

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A Brief History of the Spanish Language: (but it's really not brief) https://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Spanish-Language-Second/dp/022613394X

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La maravillosa historia del espa?ol https://www.amazon.com/maravillosa-historia-del-espa/dp/8467044276

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A History of the Spanish Language https://www.amazon.com/History-Spanish-Language-Ralph-Penny/dp/0521011841

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The Evolution of Spanish https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Spanish-Linguistic-Thomas-Lathrop/dp/1589770145

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Los 1001 años de la lengua española https://www.amazon.com/lengua-española-ESTUDIOS-LITERARIOS-Spanish/dp/968166678X

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FRENCH

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The Story of French: https://www.amazon.com/Story-French-Jean-Benoit-Nadeau/dp/0312341849

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A History of the French Language https://www.amazon.com/History-French-Language-Peter-Rickard/dp/041510887X

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French Inside Out: The Worldwide Development of the French Language in the Past, the Present and the Future https://www.amazon.com/French-Inside-Out-Worldwide-Development/dp/0415076706

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The French Language: present and past https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0729302083

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