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Found 11 comments on Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era:

u/notacrackheadofficer · 22 pointsr/Bad_Cop_No_Donut

There are cameras everywhere, and the chips in all of our IDs, phones, shoes, and other products tell them where we are at all times.

William Burroughs said we had a chance before WWI to stop them, and we missed it.

'' “The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ”

― Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era

https://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetronic/dp/0313234981

https://www.technocracy.news/zbigniew-brzezinski-co-founder-trilateral-commission-dead-89/

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1977/07/jimmy-carter-revealed-rockefeller-republican/404908/

u/[deleted] · 21 pointsr/conspiracy

Well, what do you mean by "tyranny", Mr. President? One of your friends pretty much laid out the game plan 43 years ago: http://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetronic/dp/0313234981

"The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

  • Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era, 1970

    I'm not really sure what Obama is trying to say. I think what he's trying to say is, "you can't beat us, so join us" which actually isn't a terrible thing. Of course the contrary voice would say that a choice to join a system of tyranny, no matter how enlightened, isn't really a choice at all.

    The root of the problem can be summed up in one word, "Manichaeism". In other words, the Happy Socialist believes himself to be in possession of the Truth as well as Objective Insight into Reality, which allows him to fight the good fight against the evil of Terrorism. There are multiple problems with this world-view. First of all, it sucks all of the air out of the room. President George W. Bush famously said, in an address to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001, "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

    Would this have made Gandhi a terrorist?

    OK, that's the first problem. The second problem, is that, well, even if this were a reasonable and thoughtful approach to life (it isn't) we would still be in the awkward position of wondering when the War on Terror would be over. What exactly are the victory conditions?

    The third (and this really is the kicker) is that tyranny is not an all-or-nothing proposition. It lies on a continuum. And reasonable people can disagree as to what constitutes tyranny and what does not. Is it tyranny to work to prevent nuclear terrorism? Most would say no, not at all. But then the question becomes: how much tyranny will you put up with before you push the Big Red Button that reduces Washington, and any number of other global cities? What is it going to take for you to become a terrorist?

    The USA says there should be NO LIMIT to what you will have to put up with! You should put up with being a slave. And of course it seems like the morally right thing to do: I mean, who can really say, seriously, "I would rather kill hundreds of thousands of people than be a slave"? This is the central moral dilemma of our time: what is it going to take for you to become a terrorist?

    Whatever the answer is, you can BET that those in power will listen very closely.

    ...and then figure out what they can get away with, how much leeway they have before it all goes over the edge, and large numbers of people say, "give me the fucking button already".

    But of course they will miscalculate. They aren't as smart as they think.
u/333bbbggg · 8 pointsr/conspiracy

Couple different reasons:

  1. The "Elites" have been writing down their plans for a New World Order since HG Welles coined the term back in the day. His book with the same name explains how the Elites will evolve and then keep the beta human monkeys as their pets: http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Wells_New_World_Order-5.pdf
    In the 60s, Carroll Quigley wrote the plan down again in his book Tragedy and Hope More recently, Obama string pullers like Zbignew Brezenski have written down the plan for the NWO in books like the Technotronic Era

  2. Hundreds of elites repeat it over and over in their speeches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYBDIkgxKo . Gary Hart is especially egregious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTOCRa9lTZc

  3. There have been hundreds upon hundreds of whistleblowers throughout the years that have come forward. Listen to the story of Aaron Russo. Listen to Naval Intelligence whistleblower Bill Cooper in 1991. Listen to Darrell Hamomoto (trained through the Rockefeller Foundation).

  4. Look at Wikileaks. Hillary Clinton said outright to Wall St insiders that she wants "Hemispheric Government and trade". That's the definition and fear of the NWO (one world global elitist government).

  5. Look at the TPP. 100% undeniable proof that Obama wanted to consolidate Mexico, America, and Canada into a single "Trans Atlantic Union". Look at the European Union. It's all about the consolidation of power. If you think about the NWO simply as the consolidation of power into globalist government hands, then what Julian Assange says in this interview makes the NWO perfectly clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6qlc3lStM4
u/somewhathungry333 · 7 pointsr/Futurology

Shit is getting real in secret, this is former national security advisor of the united states Zbigniew Brezinski, rule of law is effectively over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY

A book he wrote in 1969:

https://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetronic/dp/0313234981/

"The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives

https://www.amazon.com/Grand-Chessboard-American-Geostrategic-Imperatives/dp/0465027261/

u/entropy_police · 2 pointsr/conspiracy

America in the Technetronic Age 1968

search document for 'control' to help find.

Page 21
"At the same time, the capacity to assert social and political control over the individual will vastly increase. As I have already noted, it will soon be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and to maintain up-to-date, complete files, containing even most personal information about the health or personal behaviour of the citizen, in addition to more customary data. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

"Moreover, the rapid pace of change will put a premium on anticipating events and planning for them. Power will gravitate into the hands of those who control the information, and can correlate it most rapidly."

http://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetronic/dp/0313234981

Sure as fuck sounds like the internet is partially a means to an end.

u/coldnever · 1 pointr/canada

>Sadly, if anything, "fucking scary" is an understatement.

You haven't seen anything yet

Reason doesn't work the way we thought it does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

The (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew

Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ttv6n7PFniY

Brezinski at a press conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kmUS--QCYY

The real news:

http://therealnews.com/t2/

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed-Inverted-Totalitarianism/dp/069114589X/

http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Government-Surveillance-Security-Single-Superpower/dp/1608463656/

http://www.amazon.com/National-Security-Government-Michael-Glennon/dp/0190206446/

Look at the following graphs:

IMGUR link - http://imgur.com/a/FShfb

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html And then...

WIKILEAKS: U.S. Fought To Lower Minimum Wage In Haiti So Hanes And Levis Would Stay Cheap

http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-haiti-minimum-wage-the-nation-2011-6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnkNKipiiiM

Free markets?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

Free trade?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju06F3Os64

http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Illusion-Literacy-Triumph-Spectacle/dp/1568586132/

"We now live in two Americas. One—now the minority—functions in a print-based, literate world that can cope with complexity and can separate illusion from truth. The other—the majority—is retreating from a reality-based world into one of false certainty and magic. To this majority—which crosses social class lines, though the poor are overwhelmingly affected—presidential debate and political rhetoric is pitched at a sixth-grade reading level. In this “other America,” serious film and theater, as well as newspapers and books, are being pushed to the margins of society.

In the tradition of Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism and Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death, Pulitzer Prize-winner Chris Hedges navigates this culture—attending WWF contests, the Adult Video News Awards in Las Vegas, and Ivy League graduation ceremonies—to expose an age of terrifying decline and heightened self-delusion."

Important history:

http://williamblum.org/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcA1v2n7WW4#t=2551


America in the Technetronic Age 1968

search document for 'control' to help find.

Page 21 "At the same time, the capacity to assert social and political control over the individual will vastly increase. As I have already noted, it will soon be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and to maintain up-to-date, complete files, containing even most personal information about the health or personal behaviour of the citizen, in addition to more customary data. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

"Moreover, the rapid pace of change will put a premium on anticipating events and planning for them. Power will gravitate into the hands of those who control the information, and can correlate it most rapidly."

http://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetronic/dp/0313234981

They want to try and maintain social and political control during this period of increasing global change.

*insert pic of Zbigniew Brzezinski [Global Change Intensifies]

u/lukerparanoid · 1 pointr/conspiracy

Well, in Amazon I saw 1982...

u/supa999 · 1 pointr/canada

> Unfortunately we don't really know what is being shared.

""The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. "
― Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era -- Zbigniew Brzezinski, formerly served as United States National Security Advisor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kmUS--QCYY

http://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetronic/dp/0313234981/

u/ChangeThroughTruth · 0 pointsr/toronto

Looking at the Presto system vs the old system, weighing the overall positives and negatives, it doesn't seem like it benefits the public to implement it. Things like this are done in the name of 'progress', but who is it good for? Just because a system involves more technology does not make is superior.

From the point of view of an individual system user:
-You are now subject to an additional tracking and monitoring system
-You now need to review your monthly bill for errors and engage a frustrating customer service system in order to attempt to just get your money back
-There are issues with the system being partially installed (ie must carry multiple payment forms), but even once fully installed, individual machines go down. How fun is it trying to explain that to the Transit Enforcement Officer looking for your POP?

From the point of view of the Public Purse:
-How much does it cost to implement and maintain Presto as compared to the current system. I can't imagine how there is a cost savings. We see stories like this: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/10/12/presto-card-rollout-on-ttc-running-millions-over-budget.html

So what is the point of it? It really appears to me to be one more step in the implementation of Technocracy which requires total surveillance through technology. If you don't know what I'm talking about, spend some time googling that word. Or better yet, read this book https://www.amazon.ca/Between-Two-Ages-Americas-Technetronic/dp/0313234981 and learn about the goals and activities of the author.