Reddit mentions of Composition and Origin of Cometary Materials

I wonder what they think about pin-up art and "pin-up culture" in general. I realize this shirt is not exactly related to that, it's more of the 80's sci-fi metal scene, but the woman who made this seems to present that pin-up culture. Is that artwork misogynistic? Is it only for women to enjoy and use? Can a man have a pin-up tattoo, or is that supporting oppression?

I get that there's a point to being PC in the workplace, but I feel this has more to do with [ESA's] culture of allowing people to show their creativity and uniqueness in these mission launches and press conferences. Hell, [NASA] clearly had a massive PR boost to the public because of a guy's funky hairstyle! It's [the space agency's] job to set the tone, they can have it be like the old days, everyone in shirts and slacks, ties and horn-rimmed glasses (oh wait, those people were probably more sexist than the guy with the shirt).

In reality, if the goal of these social justice advocates is to empower and promote women in the sciences, they need to be focusing on the women who played an important role in this mission. I had to learn via /u/maxgarzo that one of the lead scientists on this mission was Kathrin Altwegg, and that instead of focusing on her achievements, they choose to just focus on a shirt as the reason women aren't in STEM...

From /u/maxgarzo's comment:

> Altewegg also has 23 publications to her name relevant to the Rosetta missions, in case you were curious. Why isn't anyone talking about these achievements? Why is it all about what Matt Taylor wore? Why isn't there a single blogger giving these women the credit they deserve?

> We now know what a comet SMELLS like thanks to this woman...

> She's written a fucking BOOK on the birth of comets.

> How does Kathrin Altwegg have 23 publications and two books to her name if sexist shirts keep women from entering tech????? Because it's easier to say men are keeping women out of tech than it is to give praise to the women already in tech. That's how. I'm sorry Kathrin. I'm sorry that instead of people looking to you and saying "You are a credit to the scientific community" they're effectively saying "You don't count because shirt".

*edited my point to reflect the different space agencies, and not just NASA. as /u/maxgarzo pointed out, this is a different culture than USA/NASA, which not many people (myself included) seem to realize.

PS: Maybe the perfect argument against this outrage is to use their own cultural relativism theories (it's not bad that they're OK with this, you cannot judge another culture you aren't part of).

Was the shirt provocative? Yes.

But in 2014, one could believe that we are progressive enough as a society that we don't automatically assume that "sexy" displays are automatically sexist.

I know that because of its perceived "uglyness", this shirt will not be well-received in this sub in general, and I don't like it either. But I don't believe he should be attacked like this for a damn shirt.

Btw, Twitter update from the female friend who made the shirt for him:

>I am heartbroken to see my friend getting upset for the world to see just because he was himself. What he achieved was lost in negativity.

https://twitter.com/ellypriZeMaN/status/533287464497332225

I still don't think he should have to apologize for his clothing choice, since I don't think it is his fault that people choose to be offended. And this is why people use "social justice warrior" as an insult:
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> One of the lead scientists on this mission was Kathrin Altwegg, and instead of focusing on her achievements, they choose to just focus on a shirt as the reason women aren't in STEM.

> Altwegg has 23 publications to her name, relevant to the Rosetta missions. Why isn't anyone talking about these achievements? Why is it all about what Matt Taylor wore? Why aren't these bloggers giving women like this the credit they deserve?
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> We know what a comet SMELLS like thanks to this woman...
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> She's written a BOOK on the birth of comets.
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> But it's easier to say men are keeping women out of tech than it is to give praise to the women already in tech. That's the difference between sjws and real feminists, who would prefer the latter. I'm sad that instead of people looking at Altwegg and saying "You are a credit to the scientific community" they're ignoring her and focusing on the shirt, because this fits in better with their narrative.