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Reddit mentions of Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler, 4 CDC Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Aluminum Fins for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151
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We found 410 Reddit mentions of Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler, 4 CDC Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Aluminum Fins for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151. Here are the top ones.
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- Well-balanced cooling performance provides fin optimizations with perfect balance between high and low speed operations
- Wide-range PWM fan with unique wave-shaped blade design for excellent airflow
- CPU Socket: LGA2066, LGA2011-v3, LGA2011, LGA1366, LGA1200, LGA1156, LGA1155, LGA1151, LGA1150, AM4, AM3+, AM3, AM2+, AM2, FM2+, FM2, FM1
- Dimensions (L x W x H): 120 x 80 x 159 mm / 4.7 x 3.1 x 6.3 inch ; Heat Sink Dimensions (L x W x H): 116 x 51 x 159 mm / 4.6 x 2.0 x 6.3 inch; Fan Dimensions (L x W x H): 120 x 120 x 25 mm / 4.7 x 4.7 x 1 inch
- Heat Sink Material: Aluminum Fins, 4 Direct Contact Heat Pipe ; Heat Sink Weight: 465g / 1.03lb: Heat Pipe Dimensions: Ø6mm
- Fan Noise Level: 9 - 36 dBA; Fan Speed: 600-2000 RPM (PWM) ± 10% ; Fan Airflow: 24.9 - 82.9 CFM ± 10%
|Color||Hyper 212 EVO|
|Number of items||1|
|Release date||December 2018|
|Size||4 Heat Pipes|
Definitely get a cheap 3rd party cooler for that CPU my dude. An H7 would do just fine.
Edit: On second thought, Cryorig must be going out of business because the cooler I paid under around $30 is now well over $100. Another great option would be the budget king H212 Evo and step-ups include Noctua's offering or the Scythe Mugen, BeQuiet's, all are great budget coolers.
"I priced everything out online and this is what it's worth" suuurrreee....
I'd offer $750 for everything, tops.
These are cheap and one of the best ones on the market
Just my opinion, I am no expert, but these seem like the best choices as they are popular, and consideration how much work it would take to design them.
Also check the most popular on Amazon, Newegg and PC part picker.
CPUs from one socket look almost the same right?
So a LGA 1151 and AM3+ CPUs.
For RAM, classic PCB with black chips, maybe another one with a very simple heatspreader in different colors, as it would take quite a lot of work to create realistic heatspreaders for little benefit IMO.
Any HDD, they all look similar.
For SSDs, Samsung are the most popular and very simple to do.
Three most popular CPU coolers prolly are CRYORIG H7, Hyper 212 EVO, and Corsair H100i, maybe with addition of a single fan AIO like Corsair H55.
GPUs are tougher:
Motherboards and cases: the hardest parts to pick, almost every one part is completely different from the other.
Just go by the most popular.
Anything I forgot?
I wouldn't call that a deal; I'd call that a scam. Notice that the seller is "Just Launched", is asking $20 less than the competition, and most importantly has no buyer feedback.
As far as bang for your buck, I think the Hyper 212+ is a better buy. It's about two-thirds of the price of the Hyper 212 Evo and you'll only see a minimal benefit with the Evo (which is from the better fan, if I recall correctly).
You really can't go wrong with either cooler but if you're already over budget or need to save a few dollars somewhere, I'd say the 212+ is a better buy - especially if you're only doing some conservative overclocking.
Those first three games are likely CPU limited while Rainbow Six is probably GPU limited. My immediate thought is overheating. Use a temperature monitoring software to check the temperature on your CPU. If it's high, consider cleaning out your CPU fan or replacing the thermal paste on your fan.
If you don't have one, I'd suggest getting an after-market CPU cooler. The Cooler Master 212 is what I use and I've always been extremely satisfied with the results. With the 4590 you won't have much room to overclock, but it will guarantee you aren't running into any thermal problems.
EDIT2: Só como referencia: iMac i7 comprado pelo governo, segue o baile comparando com o PC montado e este meu comentario US$1.200,00 de diferença.
O preço do iMac é exagerado até la fora: iMac top de linha i5
Quem entende de computadores sabe que você monta um PC MELHOR por um preço bem menor: Top de linha no MINIMO 5x mais forte, e o mesmo preço. Na verdade, um exagero, porque montei com as melhores peças no mercado atualmente. Poderia até ter poupado mais e aproveitado o quad-channel do ram na placa mãe, que seria melhor e mais barato, só quis ser overkill.
Os produtos Apple são overpriced em QUALQUER mercado, só ver a linha de ultrabooks deles por 2k dolares e os concorrentes pelo mesmo valor (Razer Blade).
EDIT: link talvez tenha problemas, então eis os itens:
never overclock on the shitty intel cooler
128.99$ regular price for a 212 EVO eh Amazon? Wow I'm saving 86$ what a steal! How is this allowed....
Following is my configuration built 2 years back.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus Z97-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1
Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED Backlit LCD Monitor x 2(Got these two for a steal at the Flipkart Big Billion Day Sale)
Cooler Master Keybord & Mouse Devastator Combo SGB-3010-KKMF1-US
Right now playing SOMA.
Motherboards: MSI Enthusiastic Gaming Intel Z270 DDR4 VR Ready HDMI USB 3 ATX Motherboard x2
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C15 Desktop Memory Kit - White x2
Processors: Intel 7th Gen Intel Core Desktop Processor i7-7700K x2
3 of the Monitors (1 is a Benq): ViewSonic VX2452MH 24" 1080p Gaming Monitor HDMI, DVI, VGA
GPUs: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1060 DirectX 12 GV-N1060WF2OC-6GD 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 ATX Video Card x2
Coolers: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) x2
Speakers: Logitech Z313 Speaker System x2
Cases: Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (and 1 white)
Keyboards: SteelSeries Apex 300 Gaming Keyboard, White LED Backlit and CORSAIR K55 RGB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech G600 MMO Gaming Mouse (and don't ask what my cheap ass mouse is, but I love it)
Cat: Pain In The Ass Model
Ever heard of saving your money? $40 is quite a bit and adds up quickly if it's a recurring amount.
For $40 though, it's more of being able to upgrade parts that you might get. an i5-7500 vs an i5-7600k is a $40 difference.
Upgrading from a regular cpu fan to watercooling is <$40.
Although mining has ruined the prices, upgrading from a gtx 1050 to a 1050ti is <$40
8GB of ram is just over $40.
Good work, your cable management is excellent!
I have a couple of recommendations for you build:
I'd recommend buying a new CPU cooler when you can. The Intel ones are good, but there are so many better ones on the market.
Try this one - I used it in my build for like 3 years. Keeps temps down and fans quiet.
Another thing you may consider is an SSD. You'd be surprised by how cheap they are right now. Here is a 480Gb SSD for only $118 USD.
And as /u/nolo_me said, definitely flip that PSU if it's not too much trouble. Better performance, better sound, better temps.
Total: $512 or possibly less if you make some offers -- for a very capable system.
I know that feel bro, I had a AMD Phenom II x4 965BE that also ran at 125W. After upgrading to a Hyper 212 sound and noise were no longer an issue, (just size was, and I went without my stock case side panel the whole summer, lel)
Here is a $20 cpu cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064&amp;nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&amp;cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-CPU+Fans+%26+Heatsinks-_-N82E16835103064&amp;gclid=CjwKEAiAg_CnBRDc1N_wuoCiwyESJABpBuMXlsgcfmGTOTavNvaSEJXZrNDQStKLkb4A_PBBXCHx-BoC-T_w_wcB&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds
And a comparison to the stock cooler on the fx 8350:
Or if you have $35 you can get the Hyper 212:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1425882089&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=212+evo , its better performance and almost silent for me (its been with my phenom and now its with my intel)
What are you going to do with your PC? If it's just gaming then an i7 is a bit overkill. I'd recommend the FX 8350 with this build and if you want to overclock, I'd recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU cooler. And you're right, it would be a great gift!
Your cooler is just a fan, get the CM Hyper 212 EVO. Your motherboard is incompatible with the processor, get the MSI H81M-P33. Your harddrive is a slow spinny spinny, get the WD Caviar Blue. Your graphics card/cpu is unbalanced, either downgrade the processor to the Intel i3-4160, or upgrade the graphics card to a GTX 960 or R9 380.
Edit: No aftermarket cooler with the i3-4160.
In op's defense here are some prices I found online.
Graphics Card ($550.83):
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231888&amp;ignorebbr=1&amp;nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&amp;cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Memory+%28Desktop+Memory%29-_-N82E16820231888&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwgOzdBRDlARIsAJ6_HNluiesSkg9CxxBfxBDmz1HWxtmFUiMwnkaY7NVmjP6ZhSJRDLMI8AcaAot_EALw_wcB&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds (EDIT: made a mistake with ram. Previous was DDR3)
CPU Cooler ($29.99):
339.99+550.83+129.99+56.99+29.99+55.99+45.99=$1209.77 (EDIT:Made a mistake with calculation and also want to note these all are found through quick searches and most don't look like top quality products. What op has is probably priced a bit more than all these parts. Also click on the frickin pc part picker on the post.) without case, monitor, and motherboard included. It is quite a steal in my opinion. By the way op are you wiling to sell just your CPU cooler to me? What would you price it at?
I see lots of downvotes to this guy who's obviously not as experienced as you guys. What's the purpose of this subreddit again? I thought it was for newer builders to ask questions and experienced builders to help.
OP, you've probably gathered by now that your stock i5 cooler isn't going to good enough. For how much I like to rag on Intel and performance per watt (essentially, performance compared to heat output) the 8700K isn't terrible. The Windale 6 is roughly $45 and perfectly competent with cooling the 8700K. If you wanted a cheaper solution the Cooler Master Hyper 212 is also a fairly solid choice. Personally I'd recommend the Windale 6 over the Hyper 212 but if, for some reason, the $15 difference is necessary the Hyper 212 would be competent. You wouldn't be able to squeeze as much performance out of the 8700K with the Hyper 212 as you could with the Windale 6 but it would get the job done.
Omg your friend is an ass! I’m sorry but I’m amazed that thing is running! Please refrain from having the computer on until you get a proper cooler for BOTH your processor and graphics card. You are likely damaging the computer every time you run it.
for the processor
I don’t know what to do about the graphics card honestly but you need to cool that as well. You might be better off getting water cooling and installing it. But you also need to cool the GPU as well.
That picture of the acrylic that you don’t what it is, that is a water cooling block for the GPU!
Same with the processor, that’s a water cooling block sitting on it!
Your friend literally took out the water cooling but didn’t replace the fans!
Oh my god please don't do a prebuilt from here and not likes Dell prebuilt like someone built it here. You can learn so much but buying the parts, and researching it can be a bonding experience with your son!
Edit: SORRY IN ADVANCE FOR A WALL OF TEXT!
anyway lets get this build started!
Idk what you want but for a case that looks super sexy the NZXT S340 would be a good start, cheap and nice.
CASE:NZXT S340 Mid Tower Case CA-S340MB-GR Matte Black/Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T4BWUUY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wR12xbKDZPNE8
Note: $74 Jet.com has it cheaper. (GET THE BLUE AS I MADE IT A BLUE BUILD)
CPU:Intel Core i7-2600 Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 8 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80623I72600 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EBUXSU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_nT12xb7BECNJC
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM R2.0 LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NA1K0S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_b112xb1T6M7HK
RAM: PNY Anarchy 8GB Kit (2x4GB) DDR3 2133MHz (PC3-17000) CL10 Desktop Memory (BLUE) - MD8GK2D3213310AB-Z https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012DT0IB6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_h412xb3VC5JNW
POWER SUPPLY: EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W, 3 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-W1-0500-KR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_E512xb56068FP
GRAPHICS CARD: ASUS ROG STRIX Radeon RX 460 4GB OC Edition AMD Gaming Graphics Card (STRIX-RX460-O4G-GAMING) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1JVQI4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_z712xbFGF2Y2T
Edit 2: As your budget is $600 and I don't know how lenient you are with going over or what, but an Asus RX 470 would be a better graphics card and would increase the total to around $650.
AFTERMARKET CPU COOLER:Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_E-12xbR7ZCHBK
Edit 4: If you want peripherals that's gonna be around $1000 in total for decent crap. I would suggest a 1080p 60hz monitor, a mechanical keyboard ( I use a G. Skillz KM780 RGB and it is fabulous), a nice pair of headphones HyperX cloud 2, and a nice set of speakers Logitech Z506. Also idk what you have but get a wifi adapter as well unless you can hook up to Ethernet which is highly recommended.
Edit 5: If any other questions just PM me glad to help you out more.
Edit 6: shit I forgot drives and OS. I'm too tired to link things anymore so I suggest getting a 128gb Samsung PRO SSD for your OS and main shit then get a Seagate 1TB HDD and you're good to go. Hopefully I covered everything.
Honestly 500-600 wouldn't make a very decent computer for a first rig. You can make one and well I made one just right now but that doesn't take into account peripherals. If you wanted 500-600 WITH peripherals that would have been the hardest budget build of my life. To maintain quality and performance, I'm cringing just thinking of it.
i'd swap out the cooler for something a bit bigger. like this https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1511120598&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=cpu+cooler&amp;dpID=518BEXKEiiL&amp;preST=_SY300_QL70_&amp;dpSrc=srch
The Z77 board should be completely compatible with your CPU the question is HP and other manufacturer have been known ro glue or even sodder CPUs to the boards. Don't know if they still do but they've done it in the past. While your at it get a after market cooler ideally this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_aw_sbs_1?pi=SY115&amp;amp;simLd=1 it cools the best for almost any price point including lower end Water Cooling systems. And it's one of the quietest. Good luck
I personally don't have an extra one. But just advice you can grab one for $23 on amazon used if that's within your budget. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B005O65JXI/
Nope, I added https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Fortunately not needed. I did a lot of temp testing while setting it up, and 5 of these babies (2 in front, 2 in back, 1 on top) and this thing are enough to keep anything from getting to 60C. Surprisingly quiet too.
Next machine I will probably opt for water though.
I bought several <$50 items:
This keyboard is a great deal for a back lighted mechanical one.
Also this any of these refurbished mouses, I specifically got one of the M65:
If things are running hot in the CPU, you could also get a Hyper Evo 212.
Hope this helps!
On a stock CPU, you don't need a watercooler at all. Even the stock cooler will do perfectly fine on stock speeds. However, you should probably consider overclocking your CPU, as you have a K-series, which is unlocked. Just make sure you have a supported (re: Z170) motherboard.
Now for the cooler; if you aren't planning on overclocking, just use your stock cooler. If you don't have it, I'd recommend the Hyper 212 EVO, as it's cheap and does the job. Also gives you ample headroom for moderate overclocking in the future. If you are really planning on overclocking, I'd actually recommend the H100i v2, as it's only $10 more, but provides much better cooling performance because it's a 240mm rad. You should get 4+ Ghz easy on that cooler. >= 4.5 Ghz really depends on the CPU, or the "silicon lottery" as they say.
Link to H100i V2: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/CrDzK8/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060025ww
Link to Hyper 212 EVO: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
I think its fine from what i know about pc building. But if you want faster boot times then think about getting a ssd and if you want to over clock think about getting a better cpu cooler. The stock Ryzen 3 cooler is not bad but if you want to get some good overclock on it think about getting a after market cooler. This is one i found on amazon:https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1505260014&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=CPU+cooler Also if you want a water cooled one you need to see if your case supports water cooling.
This is going to be a much better solution https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1493346642&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=cpu+cooler
well, back to topic;
Do you absolutely must include Corsair h100i in your build ? i think you can save some by using air cooler and use the budget saved from that for Graphic card or CPU.
For example, this 212 Evo here.
I mean the product description page is for the 212 evo, that is correct but if you go to the page with the prices and who is selling it (the link below)
You can see is only 6 people, 3rd party sellers. None are amazon themselfes
CPU: Intel i7 6700K
Heatsink:CoolMaster Hyper 212 Evo
Motherboard: MSI B250
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOA 850 P2
Video Card: ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080
Storage: WD Black 1TB
Extra Performance for OS: WD Blue 250GB SSD
Agreed; was just funny how Strawberry 644 told OP it would be nice but simultaneously useless ;)
In any case, this would be affordable and complement the lighted theme:
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212
Fans for Heatsink (x2): Corsair Air Series AF120
I have the same (except Red LEDs since it matches my rig more so) and it looks amazing (and of course temps are down).
Edit: Crappy picture of mine
For $30 you can get the legendary Cooler Master EVO 212
Its a beast of a cooler for the price
Or id recommend the Arctic Cooling i30
both coolers i have used are they are really good for the price.
According to this an i7 average temp is 50-65c
My suggestion, clean out your case all the way, clean and reapply thermal past to the heat sink. Also if you want to I have had fantastic results with this fan heats sink combo.
This small guide is only for CPUs, for GPUs all you have to do is download a program, I'll link that at the bottom
First off, you gotta make sure your board is capable of overclocking, chances are you have a Z-series board because you have a k series processor.
K Series processor = overclockable
Z Series motherboard = overclockable
Those are just the basics, I assume you know them.
So to overclock, you're going to need to go into your BIOS, again depends on your motherboard, but while booting up you should press either, F1, F2, F10, Delete or Escape. Once you've figured out the key to get into your BIOS, you can start tweaking.
A really important thing if you're going to overclock is an aftermarket cooler, such as a Hyper 212 (Great value) or a Corsair H115i (Top of line watercooler, pricey) or an equivelent air cooler, like the Noctua NH-D15 (My personal favorite, it's what I hit my 4.9 GHz OC on)
If you already have an after market cooler, that's perfect, and you can continue. But if you don't, I highly recommend picking up a Hyper 212, it's only $25 and will get you a huge amount of performance out of your PC, until then I'd highly reccomend not OCing.
Here are the next steps, I would type them all myself, but that article summarized perfectly, and it's very recent too.
As for overclocking your GPU, just download your GPU's Brand-specific program, like MSI Afterburner, EVGA Precision X, etc. They really all work on any GPU, but it's nice to use the one "made" for your specific GPU.
(Note, these only work on Nvidia cards, you'll have to download completely different stuff for AMD)
I hope this helps, don't be afraid of pushing your system, just don't push it too far. Either way, the worst that would happen if you OC "too" hard is you'll BSOD on startup and you'll just have to set your multiplier/voltage lower. It won't affect the longevity of your PC in any way, Enjoy!
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
I recommend to just stick with the stock cooler and save a few bucks, but if you really want an after market cooler the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO should work great.
I had my old 8320 at 4.5 ghz on a Hyper 212 evo and it was certainly worth it over the stock clocks, but definitely get a better cooler, the stock one cannot handle overclocking.
Wow, I'm literally about to order the same build. I'm getting a H100i cpu cooler, the Maximus VI Hero instead of the Z87 pro mobo, and a Seagate Barracuda 1TB instead of a Caviar Blue 1TB HD. I'm also getting the red/black version to match my mobo. Everything else is the same even the same brand GTX 770. Please let me know how it runs, especially how quiet it is.
You have a lot of fans and an overclockable CPU. I would recommend you get an aftermarket CPU cooler to take advantage of these features. As I said above, I'm gonna try the Corsair H100i, but it is pretty expensive. Some less expensive air coolers that I think would look good in this build are
[Phanteks TC12DX](http://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-U-Type-Heat-Sink-Cooler-PH-TC12DX_BK/dp/B00AXUTKEE/ref=sr_1_10? fs=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393992252&sr=1-10&keywords=phanteks+ph-tc14pe) for $60 on [sale for $40 + shipping] (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7616870) right now
Enermax ETS-T40 for $50 (also has leds on the stock fans)
And of course, the [Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo] (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1393992767&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=hyper+212+evo) for $35 which doesn't match as well but is cheap.
Great job on cable management (it's supposedly easy in this case) and I agree that it need a light on the inside. Let me know what light you end up getting because now I want one too.
That depends on whether or not you want to OC. I personally have a pretty large overclock (1 GHz) on my i5-3570k, and it's really helped my processor stay competitive. With a Hyper 212 Evo, you can get a great overclock, especially considering it's only $30.
For $2,000, you can score a pretty excellent VR dev rig.
If you're already using UE4, and you've got got your DK1, you're probably relatively familiar with the basic demands— The faster your CPU, the faster everything compiles, and more ability you have to get things done simultaneously outside your IDE. RAM is a similar story, as well letting you play with more polys and textures in whatever modeling program you use. For the GPU, various Oculus people have dropped the hint that you pretty much want a GTX 770 as a baseline for advanced apps [source]. That's consistent with what benchmarks have had to say about what it'll take to drive the (probably) 1440p CV1.
With regards to the OS, there are very few reasons to use Windows 7. You can read some reddit discussions about that here or here, but the moral of the story is that everything works better on 8 except maybe the layout, which you can change.
$2,000 is a good spot— it's pretty much where the bang-for-buck curve becomes a cliff. Here's about how that build looks:
Full-Featured VR Kit
| part | link | | price |
|cpu|Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core Desktop Processor (3.5 GHz, 8 MB Cache, Intel HD graphics, BX80646I74770K)|amazon|$299.99|
|video card|EVGA GeForce GTX780 SuperClocked w/EVGA ACX Cooler 3GB GDDR5 384bit, DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI,DP, SLI Ready (03G-P4-2784-KR)|amazon|$509.99|
|ram|G.SKILL Value 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C11D-16GNT|newegg|$127.99|
|motherboard|ASRock Z87 PRO3 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard|newegg|$94.99|
|power supply|CORSAIR RM Series RM750 750W ATX12V v2.31 and EPS 2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply|newegg|$129.99|
|case|Corsair Carbide Series Black 400R Mid Tower Computer Case (CC-9011011-WW)|amazon|$79.99|
|ssd|Crucial M500 240GB SATA 2.5" 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal Solid State Drive CT240M500SSD1|newegg|$114.99|
|hard drive|Western Digital WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive, Blue - OEM|newegg|$59.99|
|disc drive|Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 (Black)|amazon|$20.65|
|operating system|Windows 8.1 System Builder OEM DVD 64-Bit|amazon|$92.00|
|fans|Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)|amazon|$32.00|
|monitor|LG IPS234V-PN Black 23" 14ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor IPS 250 cd/m2 5,000,000:1x2|newegg|$299.98|
| |See current build price with shipping and tax| total | $1862.55|
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This leaves you with wiggle-room, to make a couple decisions based on your uses and preferences. You could bump one of the monitors up to 27" 1440p, you could bump the very capable GTX 780 up to a 780 Ti, you could move up to 32GB of RAM, increase the size of the SSD, or just pocket the change. It really depends on what apps you're trying to produce, and what your workflow looks like— if it were me, I'd lean towards the 1440p screen, just for workflow reasons.
If you have any questions (or anything to teach me), let me know!
If you don't have a ton of data, you can easily use only 1TB of HDD.
Also, the 212 Evo+ is a good cooler :)
Don't be so sad my friend. Performance hasn't increased that much over the past couple of generations of Intel cpu's since Sandy Bridge. Yes a 4690K is an decent upgrade but overall 2500K is not a bad CPU at all. It's still better than almost every AMD CPU in many gaming scenarios.
My recommendation to you is to upgrade your GPU to GTX 970 or similar for amazing value, and then buy an aftermarket cooler for your cpu, so you can overclock your CPU to hefty speeds. Something like the Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power is incredible good for the size and prize. Link to Amazon. Or the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is also very capable for overclocking, though the Thermalright True Spirit 140 power is still quite a bit better.
Here are some video tutorials for overclocking the i5 2500K if you are new to this. It's not as hard as many people think. You don't have to overclock it to extremes, but maybe just a slight overclock like 4.2 or 4.3 GHz with slight voltage increase should be enough and give a decent boost. This small of an overclock might not even require an aftermarket CPU cooler(you can try), but I would recommend it anyways since it is less noisy than the stock cooler, and you can maybe use it for your next CPU too for overclocking.
This will give you a lot of performance increase combined with a GTX 970 upgrade. Though overclocking might not be necessary at first, unless you notice some performance issues.
Really depends on price range. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 is probably the most popular one out there and comes at a pretty nice price point. If you're looking for something more powerful and don't care about cost check out the Noctua NH-D15 which actually beats out some AIO watercoolers.
I personally avoid watercooling due to the higher chance of failure (pump dying) and possible damage to components (leaks) but some swear by it so that's upto you. (Corsair h100i is the most commonly used I believe)
That's definitely a closed-loop system. These are supposed to last 4-5 years, but they have been known to break before that. There's a propylene glycol/water antifreeze fluid (just like a car) inside them, and a little pump (powered by the blue/green/yellow/black cable) pushes warm water from the CPU to the radiator, where is is cooled down and returned to the processor. When they fail they go one of two ways, either they get a crack in them and the water leaks, or the pump quits working.
It's possible that for some reason your motherboard has decided to not run the CPU fan (which is actually the pump) at 100% even though it's overheating (things like quiet mode can do this) and it's possible that when it's running at say 85% that it's not enough juice to start the pump... Check your BIOS for any quiet/silent mode settings and see if you can disable them. If the CPU fan is showing an RPM rating, this is actually the rating of the pump.
If you have gigabyte's tuning software installed, make sure you max out the CPU fan speed. Pumps are not fans, and it's possible that the pump just isn't getting enough power.
If the pump has gone bad, you can replace it with something similar (expect about the same life span and noise level). Personally, I'd switch to air cooling, as there's less that can go wrong. /r/buildapc could probably make suggestions... The only thing you need to be sure of with your next solution is that it works with AM3 processors. Your motherboard is compatible with standard 3-pin fans and 4-pin PWM fans, so you can pretty much use anything.
Personally, I have this a Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo. It's big. Very big. My case side almost doesn't fit on, but it's super quiet and doesn't depend on a pump. When idle, my CPU fan doesn't even need to run. It relies on heatpipes, which are VERY different from water cooling systems.
If you wanted to, you could switch back to a stock heatsink as well. The one that comes with your processor looks like this, but you may have a problem, it clips to a piece of plastic that appears to be missing from your motherboard (see here). You may have problems fitting OEM parts. I believe the Coolermaster fan I listed above will work even though that bracket is missing, but I'm not 100%
*edit: it looks like there's another black cable going into the heatsink in your top picture... Where does that go?
CPU Coolers usually work with a lot of different boards and CPUs.
For example, THIS CPU cooler works with LGA 2011, 1366, 1151, 1150, 1155, 1156, 775,AMD: FM2+, FM2, FM1, AM3+, AM3, AM2+, AM2 and AM1.
Note: I don't think you really need a new cooler. However, If you want lower temps then you'll need to get a new CPU cooler.
What GPU do you have?
i have coolermaster too. this cpu can take a beating i've learned in terms of o/c but safer is better
and i think you misread my comment. if youtube uses flash, then if its not up to date it might stop working in youtube because now csgo is using it for the GUI. i thiiiiiiink i had this issue aaaaages ago but thats when i had a shit pc so i attributed it to that
this board with auto o/c (idk if you can find the settings it changes on the interwebs or not)
Actually, I missed that part out.
Get this; the Hyper 212 EVO by Cooler Master:
It's like the most recommended cooler on the planet xD.
Hmm.. Well unless you're going to over clock, you don't really have to have a cooler, but if you do want to over clock, the hyper 212 evo is what I would go for.
And as for buying these parts cheaper where you are... Not sure I can be much help with that, sorry :c.
I ultimately decided to buy the ASUS board and replace the CPU cooler while I was at it. A few caveats about the Sabertooth X58:
Personally, I think these are minor issues as long as you're aware of them. And now that I've told you, you are :)
The 5800 series does not require Dell-specific drivers. In fact, Windows 7 detected and installed drivers for pretty much all my hardware on boot. It took a couple reboots to get everything installed.
TOTAL COST: 322.98 USD + tax
Not bad to get a few more years of life out of the components. And this case and PSU combo should be a solid platform for future upgrades.
I wish you luck with your own build. Feel free to PM me if you have specific questions.
This is what I picked up after the h60 wasn't keeping my cpu cool enough to play GTAV.
hello, in my opinion you should not get an nvr for the fact that they are expensive and you can not upgrade them down the line, what i recommend is building a pc base nvr and use the blue iris softwere, my recommendation and my current set up is:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018QDIO2S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FN9QT34/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J8E8Y5C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TR8YL4W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
if you have an old computer you can save some parts and moeny by reusing the power supply, hdd and maybe the case. all that will be around 250-300, the you will have 200 to buy 4 poe 1080p cameras 50 each, and good things is that you can add more later on, best of the luck, you do need few more parts so let me know if you interested and i will put them together for you. you can take a look at mine at http://mymun2.25u.com:81 demo/demo for username and passowrd.
Good damn I forgot to put it in. No worries tho, I realized that it's not even available in Canada. This one should work too lol.
I bought this 212 EVO from Amazon and set it up today.
I'm really liking it. Keeps the PC cool, it's fairly silent, and definitely worth the price ($22.50 + tax, free s/h).
It says used because there's damage to packaging, however it's not actually been used.
CPU | Intel Core i5-6600k Quad-Core Processor | $237.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Evo 212 CPU Cooler | $29.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Gigabyte ATX DDR4 LGA 1151 Motherboards GA-G1.Sniper B7 | $109.93 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | $64.74 @ Amazon
SSD | Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $124.99 @ Amazon
Case | Apex Vortex Mid Tower Case | $40.44 @ Amazon
Power Supply | EVGA 600B Bronze Power Supply | $39.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $647.97
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Checking Amazon I can get :
For $30 - I'll need a better cooler since I am not currently over clocking the 2500k and am using stock cooling.
Thats $140 - half the cost of a new 6400 combo - do you think that the 2500k will work for the Oculus Rift, and do you think its worth spending that kind of money to salvage?
Well, mainly I needed a new CPU because my PC would shut off completely. I thought it was the PSU but when I ran Prime 95 and stress tested the CPU, I got the same result and my PC would shut off.
So I upgraded with these parts:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 (haven't installed this yet)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M8ABEIM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 (had a 200GB SATA HDD and it was old and slow. SSD has really helped the speed out)
I'm keeping my eye out for the RX480 when that comes out. It's supposed to be as good as the GTX 980 and only cost $200. Waiting on benchmarks with heavy breathing.
I wouldn't get that Kingston ssd. There was a bait and switch with the unit and the early drives (the ones reviewers got) were much faster than the ones they make now. I would replace that with something else like a Samsung 850 EVO. You may also want to consider getting a hard drive for mass storage, videos take up a lot of space.
You could also get an after market CPU cooler to overclock a bit or just get a quieter PC, although it is not necessary. You don't need anything expensive, a hyper 212 evo.
other than that the build looks fine.
That would work but for a couple dosh more, I would go with the 212 EVO instead. Unless, for some reason, you NEED the T2.
When trying to decide on what power your PC needs a good website to use is http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/ - it'll give you a general idea since I get confused with all the "i7/i5/i3 XXXX gen X" nonsense too.
That'll build you a tower. Then you just need external components. Monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, chair, desk, etc. Depending on what you have available and stuff it can vary so I'll let you price out that stuff.
$1,358 pre-taxes if you go with i7 8700k, and GTX 1060 3 GB. For the tower. Taxes in, plus all the other components you're still looking at pushing close to $2000. That's CND I think. If you do a little shopping around you might get a decent deal on a few items and look into different price points between AMD and Intel if you choose their Board/Chip/GPU combos.
All I can reccomend is one of these:
Overclock that sucker to 4.3+ and you'll run DayZ a lot better.
The best and relatively easiest ways to address poor aesthetics in the CPU are a modular or semi-modular PSU and replacement sleeved and color coordinated cables from said PSU, or if they are too expensive (and they are) sleeved cable extensions look just as good and are way cheaper, but create additional cable management.
Regarding a cooling system you should definitely still have one even if you are not OC'ing. If you want to go cheap, get a solid air cooler like the Hyper 212 Evo. If you are more concerned about looks, maybe consider an AIO, like the EVGA CLC240. It's more expensive, but looks nice.
Not 100% sure what you mean about the front facing fan, but if you are asking about fan placement, then yes at the front of the case is fine just make sure it isn't going against the airflow of other fans. If you mean fan orientation, like intake/exhaust, then that is also fine, with the same caveat. Generally speaking you want your airflow coming in the front/bottom and exhausting out the top/back.
EVGA 600BQ Semi-Modular (MB power is the only non-modular) https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Bronze-Modular-Warranty-110-BQ-0600-K1/dp/B01MTJTO2O/ref=sr_1_1?crid=244UIDUJ0IXE&keywords=600+watt+power+supply&qid=1556624118&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011%2Cp_36%3A2500-6000%2Cp_89%3ACorsair%7CEVGA%7CSeasonic%7Cbe+quiet%21%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906985011&rnid=386442011&rps=1&s=pc&sprefix=600+watt+p%2Caps%2C136&sr=1-1
One thing to keep in mind about PSU's is they tend to go on sale more frequently and at better discounts (percentage wise) than many other PC components.
Antec Sleeved PSU extension cables
Hyper 212 Evo (Air cooler-Cheap and functional, not pretty)
CLC 240 (AIO water cooling- Pretty and functional, not cheap)
Hope this helps!
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Cheap option, get this (might be a tight squeeze, requires removing the side panel fan): https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
Best option, get this (also requires removing that side panel fan, but might be a tiny bit easier to fit in as it's 2mm shorter): https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U12S-Premium-Cooler-NF-F12/dp/B00C9EYVGY
unless you don't want to remove the side-panel fan at all, then get this, still great cooling: https://www.amazon.com/noctua-Premium-Cooler_Retail-Cooling-NH-C14S
It would also be helpful to know your motherboard model to check the compatibility list. But I'm fairly certain these coolers should fit regardless.
They include decent thermal paste, but the FX8350 is one of the hotter chips and it might be worthwhile to squeeze a few extra degrees out with this paste: https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B011F7W3LU
The be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 is currently the king of CPU air coolers. If that's out of your price range, nothing beats the price/performance ratio of the Hyper 212 EVO.
You might need to update the LAN driver on you're motherboard. AMD's stock coolers are usually pretty loud. Some PSU fans are also very loud. You will need to buy an aftermarket cooler before overclocking such as this one.
Stock intel cooler is NOTORIOUSLY awful. I mean, it's laughed it for how bad it is. Honestly, you would be best off just buying a Hyper 212 Evo. It is THE value budget cooler, and it performs great. You have a 4690k, so it's unlocked for overclocking... why not get a cooler that can allow it to do that competently?
The cooler will allow it to stay at the overclock when folding, and have pretty decent temps to boot. Additionally, you may eliminate some throttling in gaming that you may never know you had.
Regardless of any of this, CPUs generally like to be kept at the lowest temp possible, and if you are planning on helping the Folding@Home cause (which you should!), you are gonna want a beefier cooler to prevent any possible lifespan shortening, no matter how rare that may be with modern CPUs today. It will be quieter too, which I always find is a major plus.
You could, but your bottleneck is without a doubt your CPU. Fortunately, you can upgrade to another LGA 775 compatible chip for a modest cost. Here is a modified QX9650, which seems like a great upgrade over what you've got. Or you can pick up a Q6600 for a slightly lower cost.
Actually, I think the Core 2 Extreme processors may not be compatible with your motherboard, I'll leave that in there until I know otherwise (Core 2 Quad Q6600 would definitely work).It should work, the ASUS P5QL manual states that it does (page 28).
I would highly recommend the QX9650 over the Q6600 at that price (far better performance, don't even consider the Q6600 if you can get the QX9650).
You'll probably also want either a new cooler, or at the very least new thermal paste for your upgraded LGA 775 processor (the old stuff on it will be rock hard and unusable). For example, the CM Hyper 212 EVO ($38 Amazon, also available w/ $10 Mail-in rebate on Newegg but +$6 shipping) is compatible with the LGA 775 chipset, but will also be compatible with all modern motherboards (LGA2011 & AM4 with an extra bracket) for when you do your full upgrade in the future. Or if you think you might get a CPU with a fan already included (such as the non-k variant Intel processors, or the non-x AMD AM4 Ryzen processors), you can simply buy new thermal paste and re-apply it when you install your upgraded LGA 775 processor.
If you want more RAM, you'll have to find out if you're currently using DDR2 or DDR3 RAM, documentation on P43 boards is really weak I'm having a tough time figuring out what your board supports (conflicting information all over the place). Then you can add more.Your board supports up to 1066MHz DDR2.
while you're finding out whether you have ddr2 or 3try and find out which dual core CPU you have, and your current graphics card. Thanks.
tl;dr: Buy a refurbished/pre-owned QX9650, get new thermal paste or a new cpu fan, find out what the speed and timings are of your current ram and then try and match that when you add more (or just buy a new/pre-owned set of 2x4gb DDR2 1066MHz ram).
Do yourself a favor. It's 30 bucks and drastically decreases idle and load temps, regardless of oc. It's a little unwieldy to install, but holy Krishna is it worth it.
Absolutely. The performance gain on the R9 290 can be quite impressive once you overclock it. The reference cooler is loud and not efficient, barely enough for the card to run at stock speed. I know that people are running 290's above the best 390's available.
The aftermarket water cooling mod lets the water cooling handle the GPU core while the stock fan takes care of the power delivery.
Get a cheap air cooler for the CPU.
There you go. Prime and 30$
It's a very good fan by the way.
Is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO a good replacement for the CRYORIG H7? In Canada it is very hard to find the H7 without shipping from states. Looking primarily at this one
No. It's banned in Canada because the thermal paste is inedible and a Nova Scotian woman named Tipsy Viscera (Tipper Gore's cousin) convinced the Canadian government to ban it.
It is the cooler that goes over your cpu, the stock will work fine if you're just gaming but i'd really recommend getting an aftermarket cooler such as a Hyper 212 Evo or a CRYORIG M9i. They're relatively easy to put on and are much, much quieter than the stock cooler and allow to overclock and not worry about your cpu temps
This is the one I got. Good price and works extremely well.
Cooler Master Hyper RR-212E-20PK-R2 LED CPU Cooler with PWM Fan, Four Direct Contact Heat Pipes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_wrBNpwuq9KO5m
The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is basically the standard for air cooling, and cost $30. It'd be perfect for running at stock clock speeds and it should offer enough headroom for very mild overclocks.
The Cryorig H7 is extremely similar. I think I remember seeing a review that mentioned a better fin pattern or something like that so it's supposed to be marginally better than the 212. And the white fan looks pretty cool. I know that this one may or may not require an AM4 adapter kit depending whether or not it comes with the revised backplate. But you can just request that from Cryorig and they'll send on to you.
No problem. Also since you're getting an overclocking CPU, I forgot to recommend you an aftermarket CPU cooler.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo ($491): http://www.amazon.com.mx/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Ventilador-para/dp/B005O65JXI/
Definitely, I agree with his suggestion. You can look up low profile air cooler. I don't know if Hyper 212 Evo would fit, but that cooler is really good and it's fairly cheap.
You can also look into Silenx or Noctura NH-L12
At that price range you can get a pretty good CPU cooler(comes with thermal paste as well, if you didn't know that btw). Even if you don't have any plan on overclocking you can still get it just for less fan noise. If you don't care about either stock fan should be fine as long as you buy some new thermal paste.
Here it is with a Thermalright Truespirit 120, which is about 10mm smaller than a 212+. The Hyper T4 is probably a better option.
case: Corsair Carbide Series White 500R Mid Tower Computer Case
motherboard: MSI Computer Corp. Motherboard ATX DDR3 1333 LGA 1150 Motherboards Z87-G45
processor: Intel Core i5-4670K Quad-Core Desktop Processor 3.4 GHZ
thermal paste: Arctic Silver 5
psu: Cooler Master V1000 - 1000W Power Supply with Fully Modular Cables and 80 PLUS Gold Certification
heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz
fans: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition Twin Pack Fan
Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition Single Fan
storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4 TB
Samsung Electronics 840 Pro
Seagate Barracuda 3 TB HDD
keyboards: CM Storm QuickFire Stealth
Ducky Shine II TKL Mechanical Keyboard White LED Backlit (Black Cherry MX)
mouse: Logitech G9X
hot swap hard drive bay: Plugable USB 3.0 SATA Hard Drive
monitor: ViewSonic VX2703MH-LED 27-Inch LED-Lit Monitor
sata cables: 18" White SATA 3 III 6 GB/s
lighting kit: NZXT CB-LED20-WT 2-Metres Light Sensitivity Sleeved LED Kit
You have a 4690k which is an awsome CPU, but you don't have a cpu cooler(well you have the bundled stock cooler, but it's shit) instead i recommend Cooler master I've linked below(This will let you OC your CPU in the future since you have the "k" edition). You will also want to buy thermal paste for it(don't skimp out on this it's a cheap way to drop your temps). Finally, Windows 8.1 has better performance than w7(faster booting, and even a few frames higher in some games), and you can set it to boot into desktop mode so you don't have to look at metro UI. Also Microsoft is dropping mainstream support for w7 sometime in 2015 meaning you wont receive anymore updates, just a few essential security patches.
Thermal Paste(for CPU Cooler):
Probably. Overclocking with a stock heatsink is a nono. Get this one for only $34.
You should definitely look into getting a heatsink/fan for the CPU. I recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Great CFM with little noise and fair price.
Read my post and what I say about Aio coolers. Typically I wouldn't recommend building a custom loop if you're new to pc's. Even aio coolers aren't needed for the average gamer. This is one of the most commonly used aftermarket air coolers, with almost 8k amazon reviews, you know there's something right about it. Something like this would be ideal for a new pc builder.
Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
People complain about costs but I went to electronics recycler in town and took heatsinks from some old computers, with the pump, clear vinyl tubing, and a peice of ABS plastic to mount it all on total cost was $28 CAD for the parts I am using now.
I bought this [kit] (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01M66ZSXT/ref=cfb_at_prodpg) but the heatsink/fan was not big enough to actually cool the TEC. so I used a bigger one, a CoolerMasterHyper 212 that was free via salvage. I used this pump and here is my heat exchanger that sits in the nutrient solution and simply run salt water through it because the coolant will freeze near the cooling pad it you use regular tapwater. Goes to about -5 C.
Just buy a cheap Hyper 212 EVO or something similar, if it can fit in your case.
Ok, so I hadn't really planned on making this a long response, but here we are with a nice little wall.
TL;DR at the bottom if you don't care about the smaller details.
Turbo is a processor-based function. I used to have a non-K processor and that still turbos. The K model processors also have turbo stats. Overclocking refers to pushing the processor's base speed(in your example: 3.2Ghz) past the manufacturer recommended specs. After overclocking, you can still acheive higher speeds with the Turbo functionality, but it doesn't tend to kick in as often since you already have it overclocked.
K processors have unlocked multipliers which makes overclocking much easier. However, you can still overclock a non-K processor, it is just more difficult, usually less stable, and takes a good bit more technical knowledge since it requires manually adjusting voltages and other settings from the advanced menu on your motherboard(if applicable). With K processors, many newer motherboards(especially higher end ones, gaming ones, etc.) have either a hardware or software(within the BIOS) button/switch which will attempt to automatically calculate a safe and stable operating clock speed above the manufacturer recommended spec.
Depending on your processor and how "well" it overclocks, you may see a large boost in performance. For example, a common budget overclocking CPU(Intel-based) is the Pentium G3258 Anniversary edition. In most cases, you will see a pretty substantial boost to your clock speed(each board and CPU combo will work slightly differently due to each manufacturer's programming). I used to use the above mentioned Pentium CPU until I was able to save up for an i5. IIRC, it's base clock is also 3.2GHz, and with an aftermarket cooler I was able to overclock it to 4.0/4.1GHz using my motherboard's auto-overclock function. With manual tuning, I was able to jump it up to 4.3 and still have it be stable. I now use an i5 4690(non-K) and a water cooler. I have not yet overclocked my i5 since I've had great performance out of it and haven't seen the need to apply any tweaks.
TL;DR, You're kinda right in that Turbo increases clock speed(this is a processor function), but overclocking is actually a separate function related to your motherboard and its power settings.
212 evo is pretty much the cheapest usable heatsink at $32
At $38 you can upgrade to an H7.
A good cooler for this would be Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO for 3000. So, the cost goes to around 23000. This is a 100% premium over the r5.1600 for sure, but you get a 15% increase in performance and 2 cores and 4 threads.
I personally wont go for it, but there are people who want a high end CPU and this is the one to get.
It is the best affordable workstation cpu in the market. Another good option is https://mdcomputers.in/amd-octa-core-ryzen-7-1800x.html @ 23000/-
Your upgrade looks like it will be way cheaper than mine was.
I got the Rift on sale for $350, but my PC was like 10 years old with only a new SSD in it.
Ended up getting an i5-9600K + MSI Z390 Gaming Edge for $470, 16 GB of RAM, Cooler Master 212 EVO which turned out to be huge and a huge pain in the ass to install (I recommend watching the video on that page that I didn't notice until after I installed the thing with only it's Ikea-like instructions.), but that big fan means it's far quieter than the tiny stock fans processors usually come with. The i5-9600K does not come with a fan either, so I had no choice and this was the most popular one on NewEgg.
Also got myself an MSI Gaming X GTX 1070 used on Ebay for $270. And because it only has one HDMI port, I decided to use that for the RIFT because it was less risky, and got a Displayport to HDMI cable which supports audio for my monitor which has the speakers built in and does not have a Displayport connector. Only afterward while taking my PC apart however did I realize I had the HMDI cable plugged into my old card with a DVI adapter, and the Gaming X has a DVI port as well, so I could have saved the money on the cable. :(
Also at the last minute I had to run out and grab a Corsair 750W power supply because my perfectly good Coolermaster 750W power supply did not have an 8 pin connector for my CPU. Of course, when I got it home it did not have the 4 pin connector and the motherboard has both a 4 pin and 8 pin and I assumed both would be needed, but I gave it a shot and just having the 8 pin was fine. But now I wonder if just having the 4 pin would also have been fine. The damn manual doesn't have a thing to say about it being okay to just use one of them, but being an electrical engineer I have to assume they're both tied to the same rail on the board, so I'm just gaining a bit more copper to lower the voltage drop if I were to connect a 4 pin as well, and the system seems perfectly stable, so perhaps they included the second connector to help with overclocking. I dunno.
Anyway, final tally including the Rift without a third sensor was $1,339.
And if you're wondering why I didn't go with AMD, well, I could have but when I priced it out, I wasn't actually going to save that much. And the Intel seemed like it would perform better with both games and applications and would just be less likely to have any issues like the Vive and its wireless solution do with AMD processors.
Part of the reason the AMD was not much cheaper is the same MSI motherboard would have been more expensive as an AMD variant and while the AMD included a cooler, the Cooler Master one was only $30 and had a bigger fan which meant it would likely be quieter. Though the AMD does run at a lower wattage, so it could be a toss up. All I know is my old PC sounded like a jet engine when I started doing any heavy lifting with 3D graphics, and it was still kinda noisy otherwise, but now its super quiet and even when running 3D apps that MSI card which I specifically chose because it's one of the quietest, was indeed really quiet.
Speaking of the 1070, my god that is a monster of a card! I barely fit it in my case. And my case is a full size tower. But it has extra 3.5" bays down the bottom where I have my hard drives installed and I had to move them down some more to get it to fit and it only barely slid in behind the metal frame of the drive bay.
Only other thing to mention is while I had no problem fitting my two ram sticks on the motherboard, that Cooler Master cooler's fan would probably collide with one of the ram sticks if I were to install four in there. I think the fan can slide up and down on the cooler though, so perhaps as long as you have low profile ram, you could slide it up a smidge or two to make it fit. Something to consider if you think you may eventually want 32 or 64GB of ram.
My plan is gaming and programe in Java, Python ... But i cant waste more than 300€ in a CPU right now.
Do you recommend me H7 or Artic33? I have seen this Cooler Master RR 212E but if you said H7 or Artic I can trust in you x)
So I think that I will buy this case, one of the cooler that you said to me and maybe this CPU if I dont have more recommendations.
Thank you man, I appreciate your help!
This is a great CPU cooler It is good enough for a simple overclock. However, for gaming you really wont need to overclock.
CPU + Mobo, $86.24
8GB ram Dual channel, 70.99
240GB SSD, $100 ($20 MIR)
Used r9 270x, around $110 I believe (don't have a link for this, find one on ebay or something)
Windows 8, $90.26
Corsair 430W, $40 ($20 MIR)
Corsair 200r, $50 ($10 MIR)
CM Hyper 212 Evo, $35.96
Rest should go into speakers mouse keyboard.
if you need a monitor that's gonna be like an extra 120
If you could however chauk up a little bit more money I would go for a bigger PSU
The current one is fine, but its safer to go overkill on PSU than it is to hover somewhat above.
CPU | Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor | $229.89 @ B&H
Motherboard | ASRock - Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $63.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $149.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $128.90 @ OutletPC
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card |-
Case | NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case |-
Power Supply | EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $149.89 @ OutletPC
Edit: I'm second guessing if I can even overclock this CPU. I swear the GeForce Experience thing told me my CPU was an i5-7500K, but those don't seem to exist and the amazon page doesn't tell me if I can overclock. I need to go home and get in front of it and double check.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI something like that on a budget. Noctua's are good for more $.
XFR and PBO are ryzen 2 features that auto-overclock your cpu based on thermal sensors.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600/5 is a good write up on the tech.
From posts here, dialing in manual overclocks and voltages will rarely offer much higher performance than turning those on with a good cooler.
Well im not that expert but the case you selected i think it comes with a frontal intake fan and another fan as exhaust on the back, which is the same as my Corsair Carbide 300R series, and trust me with only 2 fans with the case you will have a decent airflow, considering the videocard has its own and also CPU which it really depends on what you want, but take a look at this one for your CPU (if you dont want liquid cooling), COOLER MASTER EVO HYPER 212!
But for the PSU i bought a Corsair 800gs one and let me tell you its reliable, take a look at this one Corsair CXM 750W! , if anything else i can help with let me know.
UPDATE: The version on the pcpartpicker was SEMI MODULAR not non modular (which comes with all cables attached to it), CX 750W CORSAIR NON MODULAR!
Well, A GPU would be a good investment, but I don't think you'll need that considering what you said was just programming and stuff. If you got into the realm of more intense stuff, like video editing or 3D CAD, then A GPU would be needed. I would recommend a CPU cooler (are those temps in Celsius for Fahrenheit?). You don't really need the liquid cooler (It's more money for more cooling, primarily for high-intensity gaming). the Cooler Master 212 EVO will get you by, along with some Arctic Silver 5. But.......Your darn case. This one should fit though
From the same place you buy your computer hardware of course. Anyways, you'll want a cooler that supports LGA 1151, which most do these days anyways.
Then you get to decide it you want an air cooler or a radiator cooler. here are a few for you to look at for reference:
I think people underestimate the need to Processor cooling.
I upgraded to an i7-4790 and the game still ran terrible. I went ahead and ordered a Cooler Master Hyper and now it runs smooth..
This is definitely not normal. The stock CPU Cooler should be able to handle it fairly well, but your temperatures are too high. Consider buying a better Cooler like these:
If you don't want to buy a new Cooler, you should re-apply the thermal paste as this is abnormal behavior even for the stock Cooler.
Everyone recommends this, and so do I. I have it, and it's great.
OP get a different CPU cooler like the Hyper 212 evo
You're running over max temps.
If you have a good 3rd party heat sync watch this video on how to apply/re-apply thermal paste if you don't know.
You might have burnt your chip if you ran it that hot for a long time.
No problem :D . If you have trouble with that cooler, I recommend the Enermax ETS T40 (which I have and I overclocked my i5 3570k to 4.4GHz, while maintaining it less than 70 degrees, but sadly the overclock was unstable, so many of my games crashed, forcing me to go to 4.2GHz. it also comes in different colours :P ) or the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
This is the cooler I recently bought: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1466783819&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=CPU+Cooler
Literally caused the heat coming off my CPU to go down by roughly 30~40 degrees. Couldn't be happier.
i7 for gaming usage is overkill, get an i5-4690K instead.
Get a Z97 board to match your i5-4690K. This MSI Z97 PC MATE should do the job.
Get a CPU Cooler if you're going to OC it, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO.
Not much better you can do than a [build with an i7-6700K, GTX 1080, and Samsung 950 PRO] (https://www.theaipc.com/result/c1467911191918).
Throw in a good ATX case-- Corsair makes good ones so [something like this] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I0MKMG2/) would probably do the trick.
Edit: A CPU cooler would help too if you end up overclocking-- [the hyper 212 evo works great for me] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/)
Any reason not to go with a Hyper 212 EVO? It's the go-to suggestion for CPU coolers. If you're not overclocking, there's no need for anything expensive to cool the chip.
You probably want this heatsink not just a fan. Assuming this fits in your case, it'll be the most cost effective measure to keep heat down. Also, make sure that your case is exhausting hot air quickly.
The EVO 212 is a nice little CPU cooler for $30. I use it and love it for the price.
I have an I5 6600 that stays between 26 and 35 C constantly. highly recommend
These temps are totally fine in my book. An aftermarket cooler would help with your CPU temps though.
the build is perfect but i recommend http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1463623842&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo+82.9+cfm+sleeve+bearing+cpu+cooler
Wow, thanks a lot for that :) I'll be awaiting your review haha. Any major difference in this or this? I am planning on over clocking.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_GoHaAbZ0GXZTW
It's this the same one except red led?
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler with PWM Fan, Four Direct Contact Heat Pipes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MS3tDbN9W885Y
XFX Radeon RX 5700 8GB GDDR6 3xDP HDMI https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T81CGFY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_sT3tDb496Y1V8
Patriot 16GB(2x8GB) Viper III DDR3 1866MHz (PC3 15000) CL10 Desktop Memory With Black Mamba Heatsink - PV316G186C0K https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00453R90W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_4T3tDb7TX3RQN
I would suggest a tower style air cooler in the $30-$40 range. They are the most reliable and simplest solution, and offers the most value for your money. There's quite a lot of options:
bq! Pure Rock Slim $30 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KVNCEIG/
CM Hyper 212 EVO $35 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/
CM Hyper 212 Black $37 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H25DYM3/
Arctic Freezer 34 $34 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MQ9MQ5M/
Enermax ETS-TF40F $36 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835214064
There's like a half dozen more options, these are some highlights looking at the current cooler prices on pcpartpicker.
I live in venezuela, so 30°c is a normal temperature.
Mi solución fue usar 2 disipadores de 240mm en el frente y uno de 120mm en la parte trasera para hacer el aire circular, mi case es genérico así que le hice unos pequeños agujeros al frente y para el cpu tengo un cooler Master este para ser exactos
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler with PWM Fan, Four Direct Contact Heat Pipes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JbiyDb9CS8EE6
Uso un AMD x4 860k y una nvida GTX 1050 con 16gb de ram, a día de hoy no tengo problemas con la temperatura, trata de mantener tu PC limpia y las pastas térmicas de CPU y GPU en buen estado.
Looks good to me, only thing missing is an SSD, they can be had dirt cheap now and shouldn't be overlooked even in a budget build. Here is a great option with free shipping, another larger option with free shipping.
The 7700K and Kaby Lake friends should be released around the end of this year, you may find yourself having to upgrade sooner than later before the 6700K goes out of stock. I would reconsider putting the money for the 6500 towards the 6700K now unless the budget is super tight, in which case I would go i3 6100 since you are planning on upgrading anyway. 6700K cheapest with free shipping I could find. I believe you also get another $5 off when signing up a new account. Keep in mind the 6700K doesn't come with a cooler, so a 212 EVO would be a solid option.
You could save some money on the case as well, here are some sale options. Make sure what you get is full atx compatible.
Hey OP! To answer your question, that will be one hell of a PC. I have a question though, are you using a stock cooler on your i5-4690? I honestly wouldn't recommend it. If you're going air cooling, go with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. If you are going with liquid cooling, I would go with the Kraken X31.
It does not hurt to have one. Extends harware life span and if you ever consider pushing extra FPS by overclocking, you'll have it already:
This is the best budget cooler but it is too tall for many older cases. Something like this will do the job and the price is right.
I would recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. This is a very good cpu cooler and is reasonably quiet. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Edit: What is your current cpu cooler?
Let me first say im not an expert in Air coolers for cpus, I have always used All in one(AIO) water coolers. AIO are definitely more expensive, but easier to install, have better cooling ability, but can be louder than Air coolers.
Air coolers tend to have better price/performance and are cheaper but tend to be harder to install.
These two below are two of the most popular due to price/performance so they are worth looking at on the AUS side of things to.
This article also has some good info on both types and good suggestions at different price points
The only other thing would be to try and get a EVGA G series psu or a Seasonic G series(What i have, caught it on sale tho). If you cant find one of them Corsair makes some cool ones too. You want to get a Bronze 80 rated PSU at the very least. They are one of the most important parts of the pc and one going bad can cause damage or a lot of instability once your gpu/cpu starts kicking in.
Im not familar with the cases you choose but its important to look at the manufacturers website of the case to see how much clearance each case provides for air coolers since they can be big as hell.
That all being said I think the UMART build is the best out of the three with the PC CASE GEAR coming in second.
The UMART is only $100 AUS more than the others according to the image but with that build you get better performance with the ability to overclock later down the line if you need more power eventually.
Plus you get slightly faster ram so overall it looks better.
Remember that you can upgrade to a better case, GPU or cpu fan etc down the line if you outgrow your current selection but the CPU/PSU, and Motherboard will be fine for a lot of years so its worth spending a little more on them now.
Also sheesh man those AUS prices are no joke, that 470 would only be around $160-180 in the states
Do you have stock cooler/radiator? is so I would look into upgrading. This one is good one Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO for budget and best on market right now. As for thermal paster Here is a pretty good one ARCTIC MX-4 Thermal Compound Paste
The thermal paste goes on top of your CPU when you fix your radiator/cooler, here is a good video on how, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2MEAnZ3swQ
The CPU should be fine, as seen on this video: http://youtu.be/vMqaQESngh0
..the cpu can run some intensive games. Allthough if you do want a serius upgrade, I can recomend the I5-3770K, for 335$, this cpu will max out anything you throw at it, not only that, but the K on it means it is unlocked, so you can overclock it to higher speeds.
I5-3770K on Amazon: http://amzn.com/B007SZ0EOW
Also what I forgot in the build, was a cooler for the CPU, the most efficent cpu out there is very cheap and cools extremely well, it's called Hyper 212 EVO and is only 35$. This cooler will be very usefull when you get into overclocking, because it will keep it at around 70 degrees even when you have it turned up high.
Hyper 212 EVO on Amazon: http://amzn.com/B005O65JXI
Also, I forgot to mention, the GPU I wrote is really really strong and can max out anything at 1080p, except maybe ridiculous games like Crysis 3.
No problem. If you upgrade to a 1050 or 1060, you’ll probably be good for about 2 more years.
If you didn’t buy a fan, then yes, you have the stock fan. You could spend $30 ($20 after $10 rebate) on a Cooler Master like this from Amazon. Or (and I highly recommend) an AIO (All In One) cooler along the lines of NZXT’s Kraken. They’re cheaper ones out there. But, be wary of what you buy. What I do know for fact is NZXT stands by their product and if their product fails to keep your cpu cool, they will replace your cpu. A friend of mine works at Micro Center and he’s told me about some of his customers having good customer service with NZXT. Corsair is another good company for AIO’s.
Also, the fan and/or the AIO will be usable on your next pc. You just might need to buy a $5 bracket.
Imo, don’t worry about the CPU. It’s still a good cpu. Invest in a proper fan.. save the money for now and get the cooler master and a 1060. You’ll be able to recycle that fan (or AIO if you go that route) into your next build.
Edit: only get the AIO if you plan on trying to get the max over clock you can and still plan on building a new pc in a couple years. Otherwise, it would be a waste.
This is the fan I got. It's under $30, and came highly recommended, and has worked very well.
i appreciate you answer: after digging around i come up to some good HW i would like you to rate it:
Intel Matching Pair Xeon E5-2670 Eight Cores Processors 2.60GHz 20MB Smart Cache 8.00 GT/S QPI TDP 115W SR0KX BX80621E52670
ASRock Motherboard ATX DDR3 1066 Intel LGA 2011 EP2C602-4L/D16
*On board 4 port ethernet
*14 sata ports (MIX speed)
Crucial 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3/DDR3L 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) DR x8 ECC UDIMM 240-Pin Memory - CT2KIT102472BD160B
2x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
EVGA Supernova 750 G3, 80 Plus Gold 750W, Fully Modular,
EZDIY-FAB 12cm 120mm 200CFM 4000RPM CPU
As per your questions
>we might not share the same definition of cloud
rsync if you know it running raid 1
> depending on how much transcoding you need to do and the number of concurrent streams, you'll want a sufficiently new processor and/or a GPU
i don't think i will use transcoding i will just stream 1080P
what are you going to do here? It doesn't really give hints on the power you'll need
I might host a website or a DB for my app
thanks alot for your time
hyper 212 evo
best performance/price ratio and come with thermal compound
First off, thank you a ton. I asked a friend of mine to look at the build (sorry, but I like to check things :P, I'm paranoid), and he said it looks great. I was curious though if you had the time to verify a few things for me. I couldn't find a few of the things you had suggested so I checked on some other things... Could you verify that they are just as usable for me please?
And sorry for the late reply. I've been trying to ensure that I have the money together so that I can actually pay for it without running into issues haha.
CPU | Intel Core i5 6600K 3.50 GHz | $298.00
CPU Cooler|Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO |$38.88
Motherboard | ASRock Motherboard Micro ATX DDR4 LGA 1151 H110M-HDS | $64.00
Memory | Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $64.00
Storage | Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $98.00
Storage | WD Blue 1TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM | $68.00
Video Card | MSI GAMING Radeon RX 480 GDDR5 4GB | $272.00 (-$27 rebate)
Case | DeepCool TX Mid Tower TESSERACT SW | $61.00
Power Supply | EVGA 500 B1, 80+ BRONZE 500W | $66.72
| Total | $1029
Now, I have a few questions.
How will I know if the cooler is going to fit and not be in the way of anything?
I can't seem to find any small cases that have the features of the larger ones (vents, top and side fans). Should I just stay with a larger case?
I need an s/pdif optical for my speakers. Should I get a pcie card or external usb?
How will I know if the video card hangs over the spare pcie slot?
* WiFi - USB vs Pcie?
Thanks for the info.
I have one question:
Can i replace the nocutna cooler: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VKVZ1A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_10?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=A23NVCSO4PYH3S
Would the difference be too big or is it comparable?
Not sure if this will help. I have a z270 and i use this as my cooler.
Just a heads up you can get a brand new Evo for $30 on Amazon with prime shipping
Great cooler for not too much hyper 212
There are tons of great all in one coolers as well.
When you say 212 are you referring to this? Looks pretty great. It seems to be around the same price but much less bulky which was a bit of a worry for me with the zalman. Thanks for the recommendation.
Thank you so much!! I have that in my cart, I assume you meant this one?
As far as a case, I think I landed on this one, does that seem okay? I don't think it comes with fans so I added a 3 pack of Aigo fans to go with it, hopefully it's all compatible. If you don't think this is a good case would you recommend anything similar?
I really appreciate the help! No one I know in real life builds, so this is extremely helpful.
Way too hot.
Try this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
These types of reviews specifically are what worry me...
>Arctic Freezer 34
I ended up ordering this cooler:
Will it do the job? Also, do I have to remove the motherboard in order to install the new cooler? I hope I don't have to remove it from the case cause that would be a pain in the ass.
Well.. The motherboard doesn't need to be great, RAM is cheap as dirt right now. Vid card is really your choice, but I think its worth going good. Get a good core i7, and this heat sink is pretty much all you need.
I'm using the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo.
Hmm, will definitely consider that then. May use the money saved to upgrade to the "K" variant of the CPU, and pick up this fan/thermal paste combo, just so OC'ing would be an option in the future: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B005O65JXI
EDIT: actually, assuming we went that route, would 750W be enough to support both GPUs AND an overlocked i5-4690K?
So the cpu cooler did not fit in the computer haha
You guys recommended this one:
and it did not fit, I ended up using the one that came with the processor for now.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1 thats the cooler i have, you think i should get a better one? Thanks a lot for your response!
Here is what I ordered.
Is there a way to make it fit?
Looking for an all-together price as well as the individual piece out prices:
Thanks for your awnser!
Is a cooler master a good idea? I would rather having a good one so I'm sure I'm not having heating problems.
I'm not planning on overclocking :).
Alright I am just going to buy a new heatsink since I will be pulling everything off anyways. I am pretty sure the Corsair cooling unit is not working because when I touch the tubes they are warm.
Would this heatsink be enough and would it fit my CPU?
I use the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Idles around 35C-45C and monster hunter world brings it up to around 60C-70C.
Also I use windows balanced and lowered the minimum processor state to 5% (for whatever reason the AMD power plan has a really high minimum processor state that raises idle temps to the 50s)
Parting my way with my desktop and moving onto a laptop as I need more portability. I would very much appreciate your help price checking these items.
NZXT H440 Mid-Tower - Black
Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5 GHz LGA 1150
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO with 120mm PWM Fan
MSI ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Z97 Gaming 7
Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 MHZ (PC3 12800)
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SATA III
EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B1, 80+ BRONZE 750W, Semi Modular
I use this, and it is silent and keeps temperatures perfect https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I bought one of those amazon cooler things hopefully that is enough. Is It? Sounds good I want to run a stable temp.
If you're definitely looking for an upgrade, check out the FX-9590 which is the top end AMD processor currently, which fits your motherboard socket. It's 200 bucks, plus if it gets hot with your current CPU cooler, you can throw in a cheap 212 Evo. Your bottleneck right now is your CPU and upgrading it will solve your fps drop problems not just in Fallout 4 but in all games.
If I were you, I'd probably save a bit more money and build a new system minus the graphics card (I'd reuse the 1060), with the new AMD Ryzen CPUs which are about the same price but much more better than the FX-series CPUs. PM me if you have any question about PC building and cheers.
Probably the worst thing to install without access to a youtube instructional video.... It took me about 35 minutes to get the stand square and fastened properly, but totally worth it. I forget if there thermal paste came from the cooler or the processor itself, but somehow made a mess with that too in the beginning....
It's a stock Intel cooler but I have this on the way. Is 83 C dangerous? That is the highest it has ever gotten, it usually runs about 78-80.
Here is the mobile version of your link
I got the same CPU and had pretty high temps (like you) with the stock fan.
Spend $30 on this Hyper 212 EVO and $5 on some Arctic Silver 5 paste and you'll be GTG
this is most troubling, I've only had it psu link for just over a year. I also neglected to say that I have a not too shabby cooling unit does this change anything in regard to your diag?
Edit: Hopefully I fixed the formatting before you got to it.
This is what I am trying to buy as my cooler. You think it would cause problems with the amd?
I've got this cooler currently https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=pe_385040_215884960_pd_te_s_bx_im/151-1189445-5297744
I've not seen temps go over about 80 - 85 degrees so I don't think it's throttling at this point.
I may just give a Windows reinstall a shot but it doesn't seem like that would fix anything.
If the case says 12.6 then it should be fine, sometimes you can remove drive bays from the front to make extra room. As for a cooler, fan cooling seems to be the cheapest, and it looks like you are building a budget build, so I highly reccomend the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005O65JXI?cache=f1dd8188c118bdb37c29e1ec5e3e4496&amp;pi=SY200_QL40&amp;qid=1404452828&amp;sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1. Although, I would check to see that it will fit as it is fairly tall. There are other similar models if it turns out to be too big.
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> Although I had to pay the customs for duties and others as this occurs randomly
... Yeah, no.
So I have taken into consideration both of your suggestions, along with reconsidering my choice of case and storage, and used PC Part Picker to build a setup with the price I am happy with.
Part | Item | Price
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | $32.00
Motherboard | ASUS ATX DDR3 1800 Motherboards H170-PLUS D3 | $117.91
CPU | Intel Boxed Core I5-6400 | $242.99
Graphics Card | XFX Radeon RX 480 | $349.99
RAM | Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB Kit (2x8GB) | $87.99
PSU | FirePower Technology Firepower ZT Series 550W 80Plus Bronze | $77.81
HDD | 2 x WD Blue 2TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive | $95.50 each
OS Drive | Corsair Force Series LE SSD, SATA 6Gbps 480GB | $142.49
Case | Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-02 Mid Tower | $74.99
Optical Drive | LG Internal UH12NS30 BD-ROM | $56.99
Just want to run it by you guys to see if the parts are compatible.
Thanks again for all your help.
I run a Macho 120, and im very happy with it!
And this one gets also recommended everywhere (has a bit less cooling power, but still more than enough and is dirt cheap!):
I had one more question
http://ark.intel.com/products/75048/ - This shows that the socket/chipset for the core i5 4670k is LGA 1150
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER - Here it shows the fan and it says CPU support Core i5, but it doesn't list socket 1150. This means that this is the incorrect fan for what I've purchased right?
Had the same issue myself, after building a new pc. Turns out the CPU would crash due to overheating. Purchased a "Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo" to replace the CPU fan it comes with and never had an issue since.
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Get this too for cooling.
Thanks for the info, that mobo looks like a pretty solid board so I think I'll go with that and the 9700k. That being said, if you live near a microcenter, they have the 9700k for $50 cheaper. https://www.microcenter.com/product/512484/core-i7-9700k-coffee-lake-36-ghz-lga-1151-boxed-processor#
Last time I purchased my 3770k, I called best buy, got them to price match microcenter, and ship it to me, so I'm going to see if I can do the same thing again, and have them price match amazon's price on the mobo as well so I can just get it all sent at once.
All that aside, what CPU cooler are you looking at, given that the 9700k doesn't come with one? I've always had them come with the CPU so never had to shop for them before...
Edit: Also looks like I'll have to upgrade my RAM as DDR3 isn't compatible. When it comes to RAM I've always just gone with corsair, but does brand really matter? Or is RAM just RAM?
Edit2: Ended up going with https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F6B1CVF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 for RAM and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1 for CPU cooler based on reviews and a bit of research that more or less says speed is more important than CL.
So this is my case
and this is my CPU cooler
The problem is that the cooler is right against the top vent on the left side.
If I don't put a fan in the top vent on the left, what would be the ideal fan placement?
I'm building a PC with this cooler: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005O65JXI/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?ref_=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item
Get this http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005O65JXI?pc_redir=1411277076&amp;robot_redir=1
You should check the prices at launch though, some of the better coolers are quite inexpensive.
I don't OC, but my wife's FX 6300 would overheat playing some games (stock settings), so I bought a new cooler for ~$35 that significantly cut core temps and also had a quieter fan (much larger than stock) and moved so much air I actually took another fan out of the case.
If the spread between OEM and retail versions of the same chip is fairly close to a quality aftermarket cooler, I recommend getting the aftermarket cooler even if you're not planning to OC. My computer is still on a stock cooler (Phenom II x4) and it's fairly loud, but I haven't had a crash so I haven't bothered upgrading. I'll likely buy the OEM chip with a better aftermarket cooler OOTB this time around though.
The Hyper 212 Evo is a favorite around here, and not too expensive if you haven't heard (which you very well may have).
If you find your computer making a lot of noise then that might be the stock AMD processor cooler.
Getting something like this would do the trick.
Welcome to the master race.
As for what you need, well the Mobo is ok, nothing wrong with it, just check to make sure the bios is ready for 2400g (ask the seller), or you will have to wait to get a boot CPU from AMD and that takes time or money.
Otherwise check out the MX500 SSDs or it will run very slow (if you get a HDD that is).
Get a dual channel kit 2x4GB ram at least 2666MHz example:
The cooler that comes with the 2400G is ok if you do not do heavy OC. If you do, then get something like a Cooler Master 212 or Cryorig H7 (tho I suggest to check if there are any out the box compatible coolers, since a lot need to order the mounts for AM4).
While I would personally not pick that PSU (the Evga and bequiet are better), it will do the job.
I have no clue what to look for in a good cooler (ie how I would know if it will be better than the one the cpu came with). I assume I look at the RPM of the fan and the decibel levels?
This one is highly rated and is compatible with my build on pcpicker. What think?
Ok cool. I currently have this one. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=pcpapi-20
Is this good enough or should I upgrade to the cryorig?
I may need to know what case you have or your budget for me to recommend because of the dimension, but in general you may pick one from Noctua or Be Quiet if you want quiet cooler.
Or best choice for budget cooling Hyper 212 EVO. Not the quietest but you can add additional fan to reduce the noise and it comes with additional clips.
EWWWWW stock cooler is a no no!
get this http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
^one of the best air coolers on the market for price vs performance. there are better coolers but they are only slightly better and they are wayyyy more expensive. even if you don't plan to overclock get this. immediately
otherwise, nicely done!
If I am overclocking an i5 4690k on an asrock killer board should I get a cm hyper 212 evo or a cm seidon? Would air or water be better here? I am not so worried about price but rather a good aftermarket cooler. I am not willing to pay more than $50 for cooling. My case would be able to fit the 212. Also, if I put in high profile RAM in the slots furthest away from the cpu, the outermost set, would I be able to fit the 212 or would i need to get low profile RAM?
Thank you, yeah I do plan on OCing.
OP hinted he wants to game on a 144hz monitor so more CPU grunt will be really beneficial in a lot of games. I think his CPU (that's in that linked build) will bottleneck on a good number of games at 144hz, especially newer games with more/better AI. Of course it also really depends on the games OP wants to play.
I have a 780ti for my 120hz monitors and would easily be bottlenecked by my 2500k in a lot of instances if I didn't overclock it. I wouldn't recommend a processor that's bought now for a similar purpose to be weaker than what I have at the moment (which is actually almost 4 years old now, how time flies).
OP for the most part people in this sub will give you ideas on what you should and shouldn't include for a lot of reasons. Your current build is fine I would just change your motherboard (unless you are fine with micro ATX in a mid tower case), CPU and potentially your power supply. Everything else is pretty much good to go.
At a minimum I would (if I were you) bump up to this:
Sure it'll increase your cost by a little but you would be grateful for it in the long run.
/u/lordcrewe that's my recommendation.
I have a stock cooler on my AMD 8350 and I want to replace the cooler/fan/whatever might be on top of the CPU.
What's the difference between this and this? Which one should I get? help pls
Yikes, that's pretty high, I'd definitely try replacing the cooler and use some good thermal paste. I recommend http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ and http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-Grams/dp/B000OGX5AM/
It's this heatsink. For my particular motherboard, I have to lift the motherboard to install the mounting bracket.
I agree, it should be something that's fairly easy and routine, and definitely shouldn't cost several hundred dollars to do. I'll give the place on Clearwater a call here in a bit, thank you so much for the suggestion!
I recommend switching your HDD to this Hardrive. A lot cheaper for the same amount of memory and rpm. Also if you are going to buy another GeForce GPU in the near future, then I recommend you buy a motherboard than can support SLI and hold multiple GPUs. Then for operating system, go with Windows 8, because of the bootup times and if you ever get an SSD, Windows 8 is faster with SSDs. Power Supply is fine, you can go with a 600W, but 650W is enough for your build. Also you really don't need a CPU Cooler because you can't overclock the i5-3350P (From what I read you cannot) but you can use the normal turbo boost from intel, but a CPU Cooler is not needed because the stock fan can handle it. If you are getting a CPU Cooler then get this one
Fair enough I waited the longest possible time before finally deciding it was nessessary too. Here though you may get it cheaper elsewhere:
Water cooling isn't that easy to install and costs more, i suggest you an air cooler for 30$ like Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI
It will keep that CPU bellow 60°C during gaming even in summer.
Intel stock cooler is unfortunately an absolute joke.
You'll need a different cooler to solve the problem.
There are a ton of coolers that are as little as $30 that can outperform it, and keep your rig nice and quiet.
These are just three examples.
My best recommendation is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, according to the manufacturer of your case and the manufacturer of the cooler it will fit just fine inside your case.
It has better cooling capabilities than the Noctua and it's also cheaper. Hope this helps you out and good luck!
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI should do it. Just check out amazon or newegg for cpu coolers.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=35ANC2VEF8Q2I&keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo&qid=1556666274&s=gateway&sprefix=cooler+master+%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1 I'm not sure if it's this exact model, because I only paid about $15 for it 4/5 years ago.
Noctua NH-U12 S
Some that i find really good personally i have a H60 and it works perfect before i had a 412+ but it's 100$ on Amazon.
Everything seems good unless you're OCing. In that case you might want to opt in for a fan such as the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO for just over 30$. It is by far the bets cooler for the money and is pretty quiet but effective.
You are buying an AMD mobo with an Intel processor which won't work. You need something like this which comes with 4 GB of RAM right now which means you only need to purchase another 4 GB to get your 8.
You might want to look into an after market cooler like this, but you could probably do without.
The best cooler for performance/price right now is a CM Evo 212 and it's only $30 USD more.
Do you have any need for a full size case? if you do not plan on going SLI you really don't. Plus that case is expensive. Spend ~$90 for a mid-size. Say the NZXT Phantom 410, Corsair 300r, 400r, 500r, or Fractal R4.
For the amount you are spending on the air cooler you should get what is considered the best air cooler. LINK Note it is huge.
Do you plan on going for a incredibly high overclock? Money might be better spent getting the CM EVO and saving yourself $50. LINK
Here it is:
Here were the two I was talking about:
I think ill wait until I get my heatsink before I start overclocking --
What temp ranges are ok? Does uping or lowering voltage contribute to increase/decrease in temp?
When I oc, can I just leave it overclocked or do I have to turn it on and off. I assume it depends on how much your temps fluctuate over a period of time. Any way to monitor this?
Is the goal of of successful OCing to have the highest GHz with the lowest voltage? Is 1.325 considered high or low (what are the general ranges)
Sorry for the oral diareha, im just super curious.
Thanks for the help =D
4 year old CPU fan won't start. It would kind of budge and I could give it a shove to get it going, but now it sits still for a few minutes before slightly wiggling and I can't manually start it any more. Smart Fan is disabled, I don't have any other fan headers to test it out on. I checked if anything was blocking the fan, but I could easily rotate it without hitting anything. Cleaned with air just in case.
What's my next step? I'm not sure if the motherboard or the fan is at fault, but would this be a time to order a new fan?
Yeah. Maybe I'm not understanding the difference between the two, but it looks like this is the same cpu cooler for much cheaper.
EDIT: Even if it is different, it'll still get the job done and be much quieter than stock. It looks like it is smaller, I think.
Well, you didn't give us a price. And I don't know..that MSI or the ASUS Z170 are pretty nicely priced. Like I said with the MSI Gaming series motherboards, you just press the OC genie and it'll do everything for you. An aftermarket shouldn't cost you more than 20-30 dollars.
Depending on what you do, you could even just opt for a i5 versus the i7 and that should shave about $100 off the CPU price.
The ever so popular Hyper 212 EVO: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=pcpapi-20
The stock 965 cooler looks like this - http://www.computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/amd-s-redesigned-stock-heat-sink/227923-1-eng-US/amd-s-redesigned-stock-heat-sink.jpg
The cooler master 212 EVO is pretty good. I used that on my 965. Allows you to overclock slightly - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI
here's the fan
I've had good results with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. You'd save about $15 and probably get about the same performance.
I am starting a PC build and my friend linked me two amazon deals that sound interesting
My question is, would these both fit properly together on a motherboard (cooling is pretty big), and if yes what type/example of motherboard would be a good choice?
Thanks in advance for any help!
From what I've heard, the stock 2500K cooler gets VERY loud. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is one of the best aftermarket coolers under $50, AFAIK. I use it on a P2 965 BE overclocked to 4 GHz and temps never go over 52C after running a quick Prime95 test for six hours.
Yeah, I meant an aftermarket one. That looks like the stock one. Usually the heatsink is much bigger in an aftermarket solution.
This one is really popular and it's what I used to overclock my Phenom II:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_IfzJwbGZ9YHM3
If you don't mind going for a somewhat unique build with a server chipset and two cpu's, I could find a pretty budget build!
edit: here it is anyway,
GPU: r7 370 nitro 4gb $150
CPU: 2x 5560 Xeons $45
CPU Fans: 2x Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $60
MOBO: Foxconn Duel Socket Server Motherboard $36
RAM: 24 gb ddr3-1333 40$
Hard drive: 1tb 7200rpm $55
PSU: EVGA B2 850 watt $90
Case: fun challenge! You gotta find something or build one!(always a fun experience if you have the time/tools)
Total cost: $476-$15 rebate= $461
If you can fit it I say the hyper evo 212 cpu cooler, it will save you $50 and is a beast. But it's big.
My first thoughts are:
If you have done these things, either way, I'd recommend trying to reapply the paste and make sure you are using the right amount. If you get the same results again, then I'd recommend getting an aftermarket cooler. There is a very good chance that the cooler is the problem. Many people use the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO because of the awesome price/performance you can get with it. This would be the best next step to solving your issues. Just make sure your case has enough room for it first.
You NEED a better cpu cooler, heres a good budget one that will fit your build perfectly and provide you with low temps, also take a look at the cryorig h7 but i dont know if they ship to canada or not.
I've got this thing (Corsair H60): https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00A0HZMGA/ref=asc_df_B00A0HZMGA4728787/?tag=shopbotca-20&amp;creative=395285&amp;creativeASIN=B00A0HZMGA&amp;linkCode=df0
Most AIO are going to be fine and last awhile.
Though this (Hyper 212 Evo):
Is the most popular and well-loved cooling option of all time, and probably gives you the most bang for your buck. You'll always be able to squeeze out more cooling with liquid, though, just based on its heat capacity.
I'm sort of surprised that the AIOs don't seem to be any cheaper than when I picked mine up ~3 years ago.
Depends. From what I can see here I'd say that a Hyper 212 Evo would be much better than the stock, although it doesn't necessarily look the prettiest. From what I know about the Fractal R4 you could also put in a Corsair H100i V2 for only about $110 more than stock.
A bit of a noob here.. my cooling requirements are based off how much I OC? How do I know if the cooling will be sufficient for my CPU?
Something like this Cooler Master would be sufficient?
Buying a decent cooler it's WAY more cheaper, but buying a new processor would give you a bigger boost in performance ;) You can get a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO , it's 30$ and it's one of the best coolers out there ;)
a heatsink and fan. the unlocked intels(K) do not come with one. so you will need to buy your own or else your CPU will fry example
I overclock my CPU a small, small amount, and am looking into buying a cooler perhaps if I buy a bigger case, just because I do enjoy overclocking a lot, and I have quite a bit of fun benchmarking my pc.
As for storage, I'm running a 300 GB and 700 GB HD, the 300 with a windows install on it, and the 700 with a 300GB partition for storage and a 400GB partition for linux. Buying a SSD is one of the thigns on my list, but boot times aren't a huge deal to me, so it's not the most urgent thing ever.
I suppose, in the end, I'm also looking into recommendations for coolers, then. I'm definitely not going to bother with liquid cooling; that's a waste of time for somebody like me. I was looking into http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1344290827&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=cooler+master+212+EVO, I had seen reviews claiming 20 degree temperature drops, which seems insane to me, but I mean, getting a $30 cooler really couldn't hurt.
Yeah, I've actually been looking into the 212 model. But the hyper 212 EVO. About 7 bucks more. :)
In a way, I just want to buy all this stuff now so I can easily upgrade everything else later.
CPU fan Cooler Master Hyper RR-212E-20PK-R2 LED CPU Cooler with PWM Fan, Four Direct Contact Heat Pipes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_4GFPAbNBY2B0T
Something like [this] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=twister_B06WRV2YXR?th=1) is really good.
I have a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo.
Edit: hahaha. Didn't notice my cooler was the exact one you recommended until a second ago. Good choice :p
I am going to keep an eye on my temps with afterburner the next time this happens though. Since it's been happening in the middle of the night after I have just fallen asleep I haven't went to the other room to check when it happens besides making sure nothing weird was going on with the PC.
If you have room in the case, the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is a budget favorite.
Another 2500k, but @ 4.4ghz using this cooler: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1450660094&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cooler+hyper+212
Case: NZXT s340
Processor: Intel i5-4690k
Mobo: Asus Z97-AR
GPU: MSI Geforce GTX 970 4gb 100 Million Edition
Ram: 8gb Crucial Ballistix Sport (8gb has been plenty for me/I plan to add more later)
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
HDD: 1tb Western Digital
SSD: 256gb Crucial MX100
Plus a couple case fans.
dont get an msi a55-p33 fm1 mobo... you cant controll the fan speeds
I have a rock solid(besudes the gpu) linux gaming rig Specs below:
-Motherboard : MSI 970A-G46
-Processor : AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4 ghz
-Cooling : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
-Memory : 16GB PNY-XLR8 DDR3 1600Mhz 9-9-9-27
-Operating System : Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa
-Display : Asus 24in Lcd 1920x1080
-Video Card : XFX-DD AMD Radeon R9 270 Series
-Graphics Driver : Latest FGLRX Crimson 15.300
-Keyboard : Noppoo Lolita Spyder 104
-Mouse : Mad Catz R.A.T.7 Gaming Mouse
-Webcam :Logitech UVC Camera 720p
-HDD : WD Blue 1TB
-SSD : OCZ-VERTEX3
-PSU : Rosewill Photon 750
Cool, I researched a bit and this (https://www.amazon.com/Hyper-212-EVO-bracket-available/dp/B005O65JXI) seems pretty suited for my needs. Thanks for the help!
Pcpartpicker list doesn’t have the items I’d like to show you, but here’s what I recommend. (This PC could easily game 1440p)
Storage: Pioneer m.2 nvme 512gb
Extra Storage:Seagate BarraCuda 2tb 7200rpms
Ram/Mem: Timetic Ext Perf hynix 3200MHz
Power Supply: EVGA 750BQ Bronze 750W
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
GPU: Zotac Gaming Geforce RTX 2070 Super
Motherboard: MSI B450m PRO-VDH Max (3rd gen ryzen ready out of box without bios update)
Case: Fractal Design Define C Mini
The 212 evo has enough room and you can put a second fan on it so you have the front fan pulling fresh air from your front intake fans and the second fan set up to pull hot air away from the cooler and towards your rear exhaust fan.
It would, the socket type you've got for the motherboard and CPU is called "lga1151" so you're looking for one that fits that socket type. However I couldn't speak to that specific one. I would definitely suggest going with a reputable CPU cooler since that's basically the brain of the whole operation. The cooler it is the better everything works.
I haven't owned one, but the cooler master hyper 212 Evo is respectable from everything I've read and has a good price point.
Unless someone else has a better suggestion.
If you're really wanting to get technical on stuff like that Gamers Nexus on YouTube gets into all that, but can be a little overwhelming when first getting into it.
This or do i have to go for a liquid cooled one?
HSf is a heat sink fan. It is what cools your cpu. http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=logicaincrem-20
here is an example of one. your cpu comes with a stock one, but it is recommended that you get a better one, especially if you are going to overclock.
It should be able to cool about the same or more than the stock cooler, but the main reason of noise is because the fan is so small so you won't see much of an improvement with that one.
The most popular aftermarket cooler is the Hyper 212 Evo which you can get for about 32 EUR, or if you can't afford that there are some smaller versions that you can see on the amazon page: https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
The h80i from corsair is a good choice, runs quite and should keep the CPU nice and cool, however you don't need a liquid cooler for a locked cpu, unless you have the 3770k. If you want a cooler that will keep it cool and quiet with great price/performance look at this hyper 212 evo.
Your choice. I always don't because I'm afraid I'll break something.
If you are not going to over clock get this to save money and get nicer parts.
What is that led controller?
You should never overclock with stock cpu cooler. For 35 bucks, you can ensure that your CPU is safe.
My i5-2500K has a Hyper 212 EVO on it inside of a HAF X case with a few extra aftermarket fans throughout. My Radeon HD 7970 is the dual dissipation edition with better thermal paste applied.
The Sandy Bridge series is well known for being fantastic for overclocking which is why people were getting them even with the newer chips out. You can just keep pushing them, even on air.
The maximum TDP of the Cooler Master 212 is 180W. That means it can only effectively cool a processor of up-to 180W. The FX-9590 is a 220W processor; your heatsink simply can't keep up with it. I would suggest something like the Corsair H100i.
I have a Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P and looking to get 8gb of memory. Here's what I'm looking at so far:
Also, my AMD FX-8350 stock cooler is insanely loud and I'm looking to replace it.
Both CPUs have the same TDP, I would expect the same temp from both. I have the 7700k, and am using the Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212, it stays well within optimal operating range. It's also cheaper than the one you picked out.
A Hyper 212 Evo should do the trick.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend a water cooler unless you really need it. If you aren't doing serious overclocking, an air cooler will work just find, with a lot less hassle and troubleshooting. Just a lot easier with an air cooler, imo, so don't get water cooling unless you need it. The Hyper 212 is a great cooler that i recommend.
Yep, video card is the priority for upgrade. Your CPU is a relatively modern quad-core CPU running at least 3 GHz and you have plenty of RAM, so both should be fine.
Even if it wasn't, a modern replacement requires a new motherboard and new RAM, so it'll get expensive real quick. Instead, I would instead look into a better air-cooler or water cooler and overclock it.
Again, the video card is the priority.
unless you plan on adding another 8GB later I would get an 8GB ram kit rather than just a single chip you get about a 5-12% gain in performance
I would reccomend scrapping the 60 dollar air cooler and getting this
or save some bucks and get this
now as for video cards SLI is way over hyped there are many games that wont use it trust me I tired an SLI setup its not that great so if your paying that much for a video card get a GeForce GTX 980
Edit: excuse me I ment GeForce GTX 970 not 980
If you have got the extra money to spend, get the i5, since many games, today at least, doesn't use more than 4 cores, rarely even more than 2 cores. Thus, they benefit from fewer, stronger cores, which is what the i5 offers. However, if you are on a bit of a budget, you could go for the FX-6300. The FX is still a good processor, but in some games, it may bottleneck you quite a bit.
If I may add another option, you could get an Intel Pentium G3258 with a Z97 board. If you overclock the Pentium, it matches even a i7-4790K in games, and that's for a fraction of the price!
Intel Core i7 4790K & Pentium G3258 "Anniversary …: http://youtu.be/evXpqpNhu_Y
This setup also allows you to upgrade to an i5-4XXX or even an i7-4XXX in the future, if your performance starts to fall off.
For this I would recommend an aftermarket cooler, to get the most out of your overclock. If aesthetics doesn't matter much or if you like the look of a big heatsink on your CPU, I would say go for the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, which is on sale on Amazon right now for $32.99 http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
You can get the Pentium G3258 for $57 right now on Amazon as well! http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KPRWAZQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1417947594&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=AC_SY200_QL40
No it comes with two Coolermaster fans.
I see it for $35 on amazon
> where are they connected?
I thought I explained that in the album. If I wasn't clear enough I'll just say it here.
I have seven fans: one is the CPU fan and the other are six case fans connected together by a fan hub. The CPU fan is connected to the CPU_FAN1 on the motherboard. The fan hub is connected to CPU_FAN2 on the motherboard.
s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1418777641&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=NZXT+VN+V2) (x3) top and back exhaust
Yeah 70's is in the high range but I'm skeptical it'd cause a hard reboot. Its hard to go wrong with a 212 EVO for your cooling needs if your concerned about its temps, only 35$.
I think your issue is probably gpu/psu related. see if your gpu temps spike high enough to cause issues. Or if you really want to put your teeth to the grindstone get a kill a watt meter and see what your psu is pulling. Hope you are able to resolve your issues!
also don't get that cooler from new egg they have it overpriced,
~~[Amazon has it cheeper]
Canadian Amazon Link
Definitely go aftermarket on the CPU cooler. Most stock CPU coolers perform poorly and are generally pretty loud. Highly recommend the Hyper 212 Evo (https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1493347861&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=hyper+212+evo) Only $25 on amazon and it works great for the price. Only downside is that installation is a bit tricky, and the manual included is no help. Just watch a Youtube tutorial or two and you'll be fine.
I've recently upgrade from an i5-4590s to an i7-4790k and I'm looking into the "Be Quiet" cpu coolers found here. Looking at the 190w all the way down to the 120w.
I also found this Be Quiet Cooler on newegg.
And the Hyper 212 Evo as another cheap options.
Right now my i7-4790k hovers at 32c (sometimes jumping to 37c) at idle and up to 81c during gaming. I'm not sure if I should throw down the extra $25 for the 190w, go toward the between for the 180w, or go cheap on the $25 Evo. Opinions/Advice, considering to do some mild overclocking in the future.
I have this cooler on there right now
will that work to overclock it safely?
From what store do you intend to buy? Be 'careful' with Cooler Master Hyper 212 because the most version in Europe are EU version that have a weaker fan. The model similar from US is RR-212E-20PK-R2 you can find it on amazon.co.uk but the most EU version are RR-212E-16PK-R1 which have a lower rpm (1800rpm max) and the airflow around 20CFM lower. I am also making a build for myself and I think I will get the EU version because I don't have the other option.
Also 16GB of RAM will suffice, you don't need 32GB.
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor | $165.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard | $84.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $28.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $44.00 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card | $409.99 @ Amazon
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case |-
Power Supply | SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $89.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $823.95
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-07 18:46 EDT-0400 |
Alternative CPU coolers:
Be Quiet! Dark Rock 4 $75
Cryorig H7 $36
[Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=pcpapi-20) $25
Corsair H100i $100/120(RGB)
EVGA CLC 280 $110
(No need for case fans if you're going with AIO WATER)
AsRock TaiChi Z370 $212
Asus Prime Z370-A $159
Looks good! You don't have a CPU cooler in there though. With this build I highly suggest an aftermarket cooler like this. By the way.. that ram BETTER be blue :) gotta matchy matchy. Happy shopping!
Same as the other, but double the capacity. IMO you will definitely want to get the 2TB. As a professional, I am guessing you go through a large amount of files and a 1TB might not be enough in the long run. Might as well spend $17 more and get a drive with double the capacity.
With this setup, you will have no redundancy. If your hard drive fails, you will probably lose all data on it. I recommend you get 2 hard drives and run them in RAID 1(Quick explanation of RAID 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE7Bfw9lFfs&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;t=57s)
Another way is to backup all your important data using a cloud service. This might get expensive depending on the service.
Everything else looks great on the build. The CPU cooler is OK, I prefer installing standard heatsinks in PCs with users who have limited knowledge, but the H100 will be fine. If you want to save money money, a $35 Hyper 212 will do just fine for your application: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1417043389&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=hyper+212
Since you have a overclockable CPU and MOBO, you should probably get a CPU cooler. Everyone seems to recommend the [Cooler Master 212] (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1414814290&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cooler+master+212), it's pretty cheap if you're trying to stay under budget.
Should I get one of these? https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1500515806&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo
This is the Evo 212 btw:
It's a fairly affordable cooler, it's air cooled, so no liquid, and it's quite popular for being efficient and affordable.
Save $110 by getting a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo instead of the Liquid Cooler. I saw a few youtube benchmarks (comparing the 212 Evo to the h100i) that the 212 Evo only lags behind the liquid cooler by 1*C. If you don't want to use the stock CM fan on the 212 Evo, just buy one Corsair SP120 for $13 on Amazon, and you'll still save $97. Liquid cooling is great until it leaks all over your $3000 setup Google-> h100i leaks (and other models).
You also wouldn't need the Thermal Compound if you buy the 212 Evo siince Cooler Master ships you some (Saves $6)
Also save $420 and get the EVGA GTX 1080 Ti instead of the Titan Xp. EVGA is the best brand for NVidia cards.
You would save a total of ~$536 and have extremely similar performance (basically unnoticeable).
Okay thank you for letting me know! I orginally had a cooler master one, should I stick to this one?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?coliid=I1GXDOF9PR9VLA&colid=1IKENSXOKJXRK&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
is it worth spending the extra 5$ the for black edition one?
Are you using the stock cooler? if so that's normal.
Currently with about 5 reddit tabs open with a 4690k and R9 390 using a Hyper 212 cooler I am at 41 degrees. Hit about 70 under load in games.
Your current temps are more than fine whilst on idle, and to be expected whilst under heavy load. If you want to fix that, pickup a Hyper 212 for $30. You won't regret it.
212 Evo is the most popular entry cooler.
I need to replace my cooler. Should I buy the same model or would another one be/work better? The cooler is a Asetek 550 LC 120 MM; AMD FX-8320. Would either of these be a good investmment: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Hydro-Performance-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B00A0HZMGA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1459445885&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=asetek+550lc , http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1388087354&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo
I'd recommend either the Hyper 212 EVO or the Cryorig H7.
CPU CPU cooler Motherboard and Case
The way I suggest the Case is 2 variables, included fans and size. Since you are not overclocking, 2 fans are good enough. The Cooler Master 212 is one of the more popular coolers of all time. I suggest the 9600k so you could upgrade your gpu and not have to upgrade your cpu.
Those temps are just fine for the most part. The stock cooler for that CPU can struggle to keep up under prolonged load. I might suggest a cheap aftermarket cooler like this one. I try to keep my temps below 50c under load. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?adgrpid=64509648188&amp;hvadid=274710499424&amp;hvdev=m&amp;hvlocphy=9010844&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvpos=1t1&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=10975849261223063634&amp;hvtargid=kwd-296674820048&amp;hydadcr=20138_9665399&amp;keywords=cpu+cooler&amp;qid=1557965983&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-3
Would this cooler work? https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS PRO WiFi
and for the cooler either a 212 evo
or a h100i v2
i personally would go for the h100i v2 and overclock (since you already have a k call cpu) but if your sure you dont want to overclock go with the 212 evo (because its cheaper and preforms really well)
EVGA Supernova 550 G3, 80 Plus Gold 550W - PSU - 69.60$
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - CPU cooler - 25.83$
I'm using Cooler Master for 2 years and it's very quiet.
The PSU has a Gold standard and my brother use it since 2015, it very reliable and works very good.
Great liquid cooler: https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Radiator-Advanced-Lighting-Software/dp/B019954Y2Q/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1543389030&sr=8-4&keywords=corsair+liquid+cooling
Great Air cooler: https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15-heatpipe-NF-A15-140mm/dp/B00L7UZMAK/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1543388981&sr=1-4&keywords=noctua+nh-d15
Ah, you can buy one from a third party such as Amazon or Newegg. It does beat the stock cooler. I can't argue that. It's not as much as you might think. Especially with an 8 core chip. But it is better.
Evo on Amazon
I did this no more then two months ago all sourced from Amazon with prime shipping plus a 10% amazon employee discount which literally just covered tax cost in Seatttle which is 9.5% This is what I wound up getting, runs everything great. I'm overclocking at 4.3 with 55c temps completely stable and having zero issues. Playing most games on Very High settings at 60fps+ Streaming at 720p with 30fps cap. GW2, League of Legends, Shadows of Morder, The Witcher 2, Borderlands, etc...
Case: Rosewill ATX Mid Tower ~$40
Mobo: MSI 970A-G46 ~$75
CPU: AMD FX-6300 ~$117
Cooler:Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ~$33
GPU:PNY GTX 750Ti ~$130
RAM:Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB ~$72
Monitor:BenQ GW2255 21.5" ~$120
Sub Total: $587
NOTES: This does not include the cost of HHD or SSD, Operating System, or peripherals. I leave this up to you depending on your needs but this is a solid base leaving room for more ram, hard drive etc. I wound up getting a headset, keyboard, mouse and webcam as well as a 1TB HDD wound up at $900ish range.
Looks wonderful. 970 should be amazing. Could also go with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Ive heard really good things about it, and like $40 cheaper.
I have a mITX build (prodigy M) and 4690k so similar builds
For cooling I went with the popular EVO-212, it brought my high load temps from 72C to 60C and with additional fans I got my temps to 54C. Its very quiet although Im currently still at the stock 3.5Ghz but 4.5Ghz does seem to be a big OC for air, you might want to go for 4.1-4.3
Yep, the stock ones are junk. I recommend the hyper 212 evo. It has over 1300 5-star reviews on amazon, and includes thermal paste. $30.
Running your 8320 at 70 degrees all the time will kill it in a couple years, so definitely get one.
Anyways, let me know if you have any other questions, or if that issue persists with a new cooler. Hopefully it fixes your problems :)
I personally use the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
The Noctua NH-D15 is also a very good choice.
Here is a spreadsheet
I use a few of these Noctua fans, super quiet and great airflow. Not purple or black though.
For my CPU, I've had this Cooler Master for a long time. Affordable, quiet, and works great.
nope, as long as you have decent airflow in your case you'll be good to moderately oc your stuff. your gpu shoud have no problems. cpu on the other hand if you have a stock cooler may need a cooler upgrade to do well but those can be got cheap. https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Just use HWMonitor (dl and install it) to monitor your temps and you'll be fine. For cpu overclocking if you aren't comfortable using the bios you can download intel XTU and do it from inside windows.
If you want to get the max oc on your cpu you might want some kind of cooler like the H100i but that's not necessary.
Probably your CPU. Have you considered replacing the cooler? The CPU cooler for the AMD FX series CPUs is not very good. It generates a lot of noise and doesn't cool the CPU very well. I suggest something like the this:https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1486646840&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cooler+master+212+evo
Also make sure you have proper airflow through your case. You said you have one fan, but you may want to put a few more in. Make sure the case is pulling air in through the front and pushing it out the top and back.
pretty much building a new pc except for HDD and PSU. What do u think about these parts?
MOBO - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N2WG23X/?tag=pcpapi-20
PSU - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MZZJ1P0/?tag=pcpapi-20
PSU cooler - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=pcpapi-20
RAM - https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-288-Pin-Desktop-F4-2400C15D-16GVR/dp/B013J7T5K6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1487440491&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=ripjaws+v+16gb+ddr4
GPU - ?
case fans - https://www.amazon.com/Cougar-Vortex-Cooling-CF-V12HPB-Black/dp/B008N323U6
212 EVO is actuially more than enough for most builds and is 30 bucks or less and great performance to price ratio, Noctua you want is little better but not twice the price for 10 celsius cooler
Edit: sorry didn't notice you asked bout water , maybe see some comparisons on self contained water ones like corsair ones, they are bit better then noctua and can be found for the price on sale
No idea about the bracket compatibility, check google? For $40 you can probably get one that tells you it is like this seems like the product not being updated to tell you it is suitable for your CPU is a sign it's old and the company doesn't care too much.
Hey man thanks sure i can post my build.
Case: Bitfenix Prodigy Green color
Motherboard: [Asus mini-ITX H87I-PLUS] (https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/H87IPLUS/)
Video card: [EVGA Geforce 970GTX 4GB SSC] (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1458235477&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=nvidia+gtx+970)
Ram: [Kingston HyperX FURY 8gb x 2 for 16gb total] (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J8E913Q/ref=sr_rp_1?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1458235725&amp;sr=sr-1&amp;keywords=kingston+hyperx)
Powersupply: Corsair CX Series 750watt
CPU cooler: [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO] (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI?psc=1&amp;redirect=true&amp;ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s02)
Processor: Intel core i5-4690k
Keyboard: Logitech g710 mechanical keyboard
Mouse: Logitech G600 gaming mouse
My headset is a bit out date they are Turtle beach px21
The xbox one controller is standard and elite version.
My speakers aren't worth mentioning they are old cheap logitech
and for hard drives i have a lot the main hard drive is a
Secondary drives are
Alright thanks. I thought I would have to upgrade the PSU and already had that factored into my budget. If I didn't care so much about streaming and I would rather be able to game then stream later, is an AMD A10 processor fast enough for the R9 380x? Is that a dumb question?
I have a couple more quick questions:
I already have a 103w power supply in it but I've heard not to cheap out on those. If the 103 w isn't enough, would this fan be sufficient for the R9 380x?: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=1WF72KZT5VJ362MSV1J5
Also, do I need to worry about whether the case I have will fit the power supply and graphics card?
Sorry for all the probably stupid questions I'm asking but I really appreciate the help.
Ok. Cool, to be clear this is the CPUC you're talking about?
As for the GPU, that sounds sensible, GPUs hold their value well?
Yeah, the Hyper 212 is a great cooler and it's only about $25 on Amazon.
Thanks for the research. Very interesting.
So the LGA 1155 has a unique top-down screw fitting that won't align with my new mobo.
The user in that forum suggested buying an aftermarket fan. Consdering that I'm not trying to affix anything to that old mobo (it's trashed), can you verify that
Ok, if the 2600X will easily outperform the 2600 at stock settings, but the 2600 keeps up when OC'd, can you use the stock CPU fan that comes with the 2600 to OC? I've heard it's a bit underpowered for that.
If so, it's still cheaper to get something like this if it's enough cooling: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI
Totally worth the money, it is a little bit older of hardware, but with a more modern graphics card you could play all modern games at high settings at 1080P. I'd buy it, take the whole thing apart, blow out any dust, clean it up, apply more thermal paste on the CPU and put on a new CPU cooler. AMD is known for heat issues so I'd probably get a better aftermarket cooler, the coolermaster hyper 212 is one of the highest rated ones and it's only $30 https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_22_sspa?keywords=cpu+cooler&qid=1550607885&s=gateway&sr=8-22-spons&psc=1.
The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo gets lots of love for $32.
I only listed the ones I've used myself.
The all in one coolers require no service and run in a closed loop.
No problem. :-)
Please reply directly to my comment in the future so I'll get a notification.
You might have just messed up the thermal paste application, as the fans you currently have should be doing a much better job than they are. Stock coolers are never great, and I'm a big fan of the 212 evo which gets me to 4 GHz (up from 3.4 GHz) on stock voltages and 52C on load (AMD 965).
This is not being caused by any other component, it is just bad cooling.
I recommend AS5 for your thermal paste, as you probably don't have any on hand with the stock sink. You can just use isopropyl alcohol to remove the old paste.
This is my go to for a full size chassis: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494563000&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=coolermaster+212
It's one of the cheaper large coolers you can find, but its very quiet. Even with the fan at only a few hundred RPM the CPU stays nice and cool. It's noisier than some when the fan really spools up but that doesn't happen often. Really only if I'm encoding video or some other particularly strenuous task.
Case fans: https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Stall-Bearing-PWM-Cooling-NF-S12A/dp/B00BEZZBFO
CPU cooler: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1495930651&amp;sr=1-5&amp;keywords=noctua+nh-d15
CPU cooler fan (cooler master fans are iffy): https://www.amazon.com/noctua-NF-P12-PWM-Noctua/dp/B006I6HMXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1495930583&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Noctua+P12
> cooler master
yup, looks like a hyper 212 evo
source: been using this beast of a cooler since '11. dirt cheap, fits most boards, comes with a backplate. the only downside is that its fan isnt very durable. mine failed after just 4 years. i do live in a very dusty area with large seasonal variations. my cooler has quite a bit of rust/corrosion on it. i used to clean it out atleast once a year but gave up a couple of years back.
link to amazon
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. It's screws have some fucking springs or something on it a son of a bitch to get on there evenly.
yeah sorry bro, that is a nice cooler, should be doing the job. the only place you could go from there is an AIO but those cost. i hv a Hyper 212 Evo https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI. check if you are Current Limit Throttling in windows. you may have just reached a roof:(
Following the "modesty is best policy" principles I would recommend a few things here:
I see others have spoken about overclocking your CPU and such already. My opinion is to skip overclocking. For the standard gamer wanting a quality experience that is getting a top of the line CPU, there's zero need to OC. I went with the i7-7700 non 'k' version and have been plenty happy. It saved some money too.
Keep in mind your peripherals. Usually those are overlooked when upgrading your PC, but maybe it's time for a new mouse/keyboard, new controller, headphones, etc.
Also if you're dad is giving you a budget, is he giving you the money to spend, or buying the stuff for you? If you don't get the remaining money from $3k, maybe you should include those things now instead of later.
You might just try the built in cooler and only upgrade if it’s throttling/causing you performance issues.
For now its not making any noises idk why it stopped now but i didnt do anything , my friend told me stock heatsink are not good and he told to get a hyper 212 cooler master https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ly0mDbJXEM8P3
Other than that for the rgb for the fans where do they go usually ?
Depending on where you are, I suggest scoping out a cheap used 1080P 22in+ monitor on Craigslist or your equivalent, maybe even a refurb for 90 max. (I recently picked up a 24in 1080p TN panel Dell monitor for 40$, so it's possible.)
Here is the CM Hyper Evo 212 for $24.99 after rebate.
If not then you can get it on amazon for $29.99
I would pickup a 180GB+ SSD for an on sale price when it comes up. (Can't get lucky like me, getting a 120GB for $40 during a pricing mistake months ago).
Hyper 212 EVO
support AM3+ socket, should be fine with your CPU
Look at the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO.
honestly, I'm assuming your CPU is an i7-9xx, which can still hold their own to this day. If you're feeling budget conscience, you can take off the current heat sink (it looks like the stock fan from intel), use 100% acetone + coffee filters to softly rub off the old thermal paste. then you can buy a new heatsink for for $30 http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1406572991&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=hyper+212+evo
this one's solid, and is compatible with your processor's LGA 1366 socket (NOTE PLEASE VERIFY THIS WITH YOUR CPU'S SOCKET as i'm not 100% sure what CPU you have)
I believe the cooler comes with its own thermal paste. Just put a pea size drop on the cpu before putting on the heatsink. let us know if you have any additional questions!
Ok - no problem. This is what I recommend you do. Buy this thing - it comes with some thermal paste. If it doesn't solve your problems, use the amazing Amazon 30 day money back guarentee (with labels provided from them) to return it.
There's plenty of guides on how to install these things, but they're pretty painless unless you have to use a back plate, which I'm not sure of off the top of my head.
Or - instead of buying a new heatsink, you can buy some thermal paste and just remove your existing and repaste it.
Options here that you need to try before dishing out money.
Or, if you really.. just want to upgrade and spend some money, we can all drool a little bit and help you pick some parts.
The evo is currently $30
The plus (the older model) is currently $20, not sure if the improvements are worth the current price difference.
Thanks, but that is actually the exact fan I bought (should have included that in the description). Specifically, from here: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
500 watts would be my bare minimum for a 1070, you'd have a lot better system longevity with an EVGA 650 watt.
You can shave some money on that CPU cooler though.
$70 on a CPU cooler is a bit much for an i5 in my opinion.
Depends on your budget, but a Hyper 212 Evo would be a good place to start.
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_XvW2xbCBE3XBV
Also, I can't see the rest of your case, but make sure you have a few intake and exhaust fans to keep the air flow going. I just purchased these:
Arctic F12 - Value pack 120mm Standard Low Noise Case Fan Cooling, 5 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTUJRHK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_xzW2xbB9CGDNF
If you're looking to overclock you're probably way past console performance anyways.
Yeah I was thinking of getting this fan instead. I was thinking about 16GB RAM because it seems cheap right now.
For a mobo: this
For a CPU Cooler: this
For a case: this
You will need a cooler if you plan to OC. I'm sure you can find cheaper cases and mobos, but the features might differ.
First things first: a liquid cooler will in no way reduce the heat in your room. the heat is coming from the CPU and the GPU for the most part. the cooler is just drawing that heat out of the CPU/ GPU, and getting it out of your case. The type of cooler you have is not going to affect the amount of heat generated and expelled into your room. ( A more efficient CPU/ GPU will reduce overall heat production.... think RX480 / gtx1070..these will reduce heat in your room vs the older GPUs)
By "air cooler" I just mean a CPU cooler that is not liquid cooled.
Good non-liquid CPU coolers are very efficient, will be MORE than capable of keeping you CPU cool, and generally make less noise than a liquid cooler. Liquid coolers are very niche, and are really only needed if you are overclocking to the MAX and creating a hell of a lot of extra heat in your CPU. For the most part people choose liquid coolers because they look cool.... or sometimes because they plan on stressing their system to the max.
The go-to cooler for most people is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. This guy just works, and you wont need anything more expensive: 4.5 stars with 5500 reviews on Amazon:
If you want to get more creative here is a guide by toms hardware:
Might be time to upgrade the heatsync.
My CPU hit 85-90C while running ARK prior. Now runs between 30-35C. An obvious, but important note, make sure all your fans are pushing air the same direction.
Edit: Pretty inexpensive upgrade ($30). Cooler Master. Large unit, almost did not fit in my case. Not a difficult installation either, I just watched a couple YouTube videos.
Alright to get that much mineral oil your going to need to go to a vets office. It turns out that mineral oil doubles as horse laxative. It will cost about $20 per gallon. As for a mother board you will be forced to use a micro-ATX board as ATX boards are exactly 12 in on the longest side. As for storage you will have to use an ssd if inside the oil however for a hard drive you can have a SATA pass through seen here you also may need a separate power supply for the fans on the radiators that would have its own fan controller. As for a mouse and keyboard wireless is the easiest answer. vertical CPU coolers are also recommended but not required. here. As for other parts their are no more requirements other than the fact that you can't have a gpu longer than 300mm
reply for any questions.
Same part, little bit cheaper here.
The stock cooler generally does fine, but the best cpu fan on the market IMO is the cooler master hyper 212 evo, which you can get for $20-30.
I think you're being scammed. That's just a stock cooler that usually comes free with non-K Intel CPUs. You won't be able to overclock with it. Buy a third party cpu cooler like this one.
About the other components:
Wayona: this is the first time I hear about this brand so I can't comment.
GTX 960: for a better gaming experience, it's better if you downgrade your motherboard and cpu and use the money to buy a better GPU like an RX 480, R9 390, or GTX 970.
PSU: that depends on your budget. Amazon.in sells good PSUs.
Is your CPU running at 103C? If so you need an aftermarket CPU cooler ASAP. 80C is the rule of thumb temp to not go past.
That is what I have and my Sandy Bridge ran cool at 4.5 GHz.
Low Tier | High Tier
There is a stock heat sync that comes with the CPU (it's why the container is so big while the CPU is small), and I assume it works just fine, but I personally upgraded to a Cooler Master. Just keep in mind the physical size of the heat sync is rather large (it actually covers up a RAM slot on my motherboard) but you will never run into a cooling issue as long as there is proper air flow through your case.
E: If you choose to use that cpu, make sure you install the proper holding unit for it FIRST as it requires you to screw it on from behind the motherboard (mine does anyways) so you may end up needing to pull everything out after installing it to get it on.
Some coolers can get quite large, make sure you have enough space in your case. Some of them also require access to the backside of the motherboard to install.
I recently did a build for my friend, using [this cooler](http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Contact-Heatpipes-RR-T4-18PK-R1/dp/B00BSKY1M4). It was for the 1150 socket, but should be similar to the AM3. The Hyper 212 EVO is an even more popular choice (performance vs money), but my friends case wouldn't fit that cooler, so I chose the T4 instead.
Some coolers orient more on cooling, and are a bit louder, while some are near silent but don't cool as good. It all depends what you want.
GTA V seems to have a well known problem with FRD even on the lowest settings on a high end pc. HOWEVER, since your CPU is maxing out, I would make sure to change the stock cooler. The one I have linked is the most popular heatsink out there as far as air cooling goes.
Thanks! I bought a Coolmaster hyper 212 I'm going to see how it all runs before i decide if I'm keeping it or going with a water cooler.
So this is what I am thinking about buying then.
All of these will be compatible with my my case/psu/gpu and a SSD and HD?
Forgot to mention but I also have a CD drive. Do I need watercooling? Would it be possible to save on the cooler with http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI and spend the saved money for a better motherboard for better future-proofing? I'm terrible at knowing what things would fit/be compatible.
Is it a K model? If it is you should be able to OC it and it would be worth spending 30 bucks on a cheap cooler like the Evo 212 and OCing a little. I googled for like a minute but people are reporting an OC to 4.5ghz with this cooler.
Thats about the same OC I got on my 8320 and I cant help but think youll see a massive performance increase in CSGO.
CPU | [Intel Boxed Core I5-6600k 3.50 Ghz ] (https://www.amazon.cn/Intel-Boxed-Core-I5-6600K-3-50-GHz-6-M-Processor-Cache-6-for-LGA-1151/dp/B012M8M7TY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1463916601&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Intel+Core+i5-6600K) |￥1,613.53 @ AmazonCN
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | ￥194.22 @ AmazonCN
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro Motherboard | ￥649 @ NeweggCN
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | ￥414.86@ AmazonCN
Storage | SAMSUNG 850 EVO 250G" Solid State Drive | ￥579 @ Tmall
Storage | Seagate 1TB Desktop HDD SATA | ￥329.24@ AmazonCN
Video Card | XFX R9-390X-8256 | ￥2831.96 @ Tmall
Case | Corsair Carbide Series 200R | ￥428.03 @ AmazonCN
Power Supply | Seasonic G-650W | ￥609.02@ AmazonCN
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) | ￥720 @ Microsoft Online
CPU | [Intel Boxed Core I5-6600k 3.50 Ghz ] (https://www.amazon.cn/Intel-Boxed-Core-I5-6600K-3-50-GHz-6-M-Processor-Cache-6-for-LGA-1151/dp/B012M8M7TY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1463916601&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Intel+Core+i5-6600K) |￥1,613.53 @ AmazonCN
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | ￥194.22 @ AmazonCN
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro Motherboard | ￥649 @ NeweggCN
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory | ￥414.86@ AmazonCN
Storage | SAMSUNG 850 EVO 250G" Solid State Drive | ￥579 @ Tmall
Storage | Seagate 1TB Desktop HDD SATA | ￥329.24@ AmazonCN
Video Card | XFX R9-390X-8256 | ￥2831.96 @ Tmall
Case | Corsair Carbide Series 200R | ￥428.03 @ AmazonCN
Power Supply | Seasonic G-650W | ￥609.02@ AmazonCN
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) | ￥720 @ Microsoft Online
| Total | ￥8368.86 = $ 1278.48
It links to the Hyper 212 evo - it's the cooler I use for every new build. It comes with brackets for every modern CPU socket and some older ones. It is quite large so keep that in mind.
$34 on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1370526703&amp;sr=8-1
You CPU is Ivy Bridge. Upgrade to this newer Haswell. If you are planning on overclocking it is recommended to get an aftermarket CPU cooler. The best budget one is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Do you think this cooler will do the trick if I decide to overclock the CPU to like 4.0GHZ in the future?
He's putting the heatsink on wrong somehow if he's broken 3 retention brackets with the stock heatsink, I guarantee it. The stocker isn't heavy enough to break the retention frame with weight alone.
It's time to move to something like a Hyper 212 EVO which has a different, metal retention mechanism that bolts through the motherboard. Note: Must remove motherboard to install this cooler.
Edit: Info you didn't supply, but that is necessary: This is starting to seem like a prebuilt and not a homebuilt system:
> Retention Bracket - Plastic, but screws in. Plastic lips keep snapping off.
Stock AMD heatsinks clip to the retention frame, they do not screw onto it. You sure you're using a stock retention mechanism? I'm not so sure...
I think that the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is pretty damn quiet as well.
Looks solid to me, not familiar with Solid Works though so I can't comment on that. You probably won't see more than a few dollars savings dropping to a lower wattage PSU and the 750w does give you the option of adding a second card for SLI in the future without having to upgrade it as well. Well worth the extra $5-10 in my opinion.
For keyboards, I have a
Microsoft Sidewinder X4 and for me at $40 with free shipping it would be tough to beat. It's not mechanical, but mine has lasted 3 years and still works beautifully (and I'm not that much of a fan of mech keyboards)
Mouse, I have a Roccat Kone that I love and at $40 is a decent price as well. Especially for the features that you get.
If you can squeeze it into your budget, a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO would help keep noise down and is only $30 on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1398169068&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cpu+cooler thoughts on that and then what would the crash involving the gpu fans speeding up be? it happens most when i ALT TAb
Why not? It's the K-series chip which means it's unlocked for overclocking.
If it's because of thermal issues, then the a new cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo ($30 on Amazon) would be sufficient for some overclocking.
If it's because of the motherboard not supporting it, then I'm sorry for you for buying (or otherwise acquiring) the k-series chip (which is usually a not-insignificant amount more than the locked chip) and a motherboard that doesn't support overclocking.
However, a motherboard upgrade is not too expensive, you can get a LGA1150 (the number of pins in the socket for your processor) Z97 chipset (the type of model of motherboard that allows overclocking) for between $30 and $50 on ebay.
These older Haswell (i3/i5/i7 4XXX) processors hold up pretty well today, and overclocking them shows a decent gain in performance.
Basically the only difference between the 1700 and the 1700x is that the 1700x is guaranteed to clock to 3.4 GHz and Turbo to 3.8 GHz on certain cores. There should be additional overclocking headroom on top of that but it's never guaranteed. Not all 1700x's can overclock to the same frequency this is the "silicon lottery".
The 1700 is clocked at 3.0 GHz (3.7 GHz Turbo) most of the time it's overclockable to the same if not better performance than the stock 1700x but this isn't guaranteed and you'll probably need a better than stock cooler to get it there. This is partially why the 1700x doesn't ship with a cooler. It needs a beefier cooler like the Cryorig H7 which is an excellent budget option, you just might need a free AM4 bracket since they're still not shipping with one. The Cooler Master 212 is the same story, the H5 is shipping with the bracket included.
You don't need a water cooler, they are generally lower profile so if you have a small case you might need one but often the stock fans aren't much quieter than the fan on the CPU coolers I linked. In brief periods of thermal testing they outperform air coolers but for long gaming sessions the difference in CPU thermals is minimal especially given the increased cost. They do look dope though.
1600 vs 1600x
1450 vs 1600 vs 1700
I wouldn't change the CPU, its possibly fine. CPUs can handle a fair bit of abuse. And trying to buy another 4790k is imho a waste of money.
What I would do is run some sort of stress test (AIDA64 or OCCT are my preferences) and check the CPU temps while it runs. First you need to confirm that the cpu is the problem. It does sound like maybe your cpu fan is defective.
So after testing youll possibly see your cpu temps getting super hot (90+ degrees C). I'd buy a quality cooler like this: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-RR-212E-20PK-R2-120mm/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1511671384&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=cooler+master+hyper+x
Now best case scenario your temps drop a tonne and your cpu runs perfectly.
Worst case scenario your cpu is still running hot because its been permanently damaged. But at least the cpu fan is still usable in your next build. So no $ wasted.
Oh i wasnt sure if anything needed changed or not thanks for the help, if possible would you let me know [this] (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&amp;colid=34W5RX272REI&amp;coliid=I162FQH6SY14TD) fan would be a good fan that would get the job done.
Could you recommend me some?
Edit: Actually, how about this one?
Nice mobo and cpu combo.
Everyone forgets the CPU cooler though.
This one for non-RGB builds, this one for RGB builds.
Here's my recommendation, if it's okay I just switch the mobo for a different brand and some other things. A lot of people have been trying to pair Ryzen 5 3rd gen with B450 motherboards, but they don't realize that won't work out of box a lot of times. lol!
PCPartPicker Part List
|CPU|AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor|$197.75 @ OutletPC|
|CPU Cooler|Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler|$34.89 @ OutletPC|
|Motherboard|MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard|$159.89 @ OutletPC|
|Memory|G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory|$77.99 @ Newegg|
|Storage|Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive|$139.99 @ Amazon|
|Video Card|MSI Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card|$159.99 @ Newegg|
|Case|Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case|$79.99 @ Walmart|
|Power Supply|Cooler Master MasterWatt 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply|$90.39 @ OutletPC|
|Operating System|Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit|$99.89 @ OutletPC|
|Wireless Network Adapter|Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter|$32.99 @ Amazon|
|Case Fan|Phanteks PH-F140SP_BBK 82.1 CFM 140 mm Fan|$14.99 @ Amazon|
|Case Fan|Phanteks PH-F140SP_BBK 82.1 CFM 140 mm Fan|$14.99 @ Amazon|
|Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts|||
|Total (before mail-in rebates)|$1188.74||
|Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-17 21:55 EDT-0400|||
I haven't done it before so I might be too scared to. But for $35, I could get the CM 212 EVO and over clock?
Figured I'd post these here instead of creating another post...
I already have a case, powersupply, drives and video card. I don't care about overclocking, so would this setup be good:
Anything you would change to save a couple of bucks or increase performance for a little bit more?
Hi guys, I'm looking to upgrade my stock CPU cooler to an aftermarket air cooler and wanted some advice on which ones I should consider. It's on a 1155 socket, cooling a 3570k i5 (it's an older cpu). I helped a buddy build a pc and he grabbed a coolermaster evo 212, I didn't like the design of the mount when we put it on and wanted something a bit more sturdy.
TL:DR what's a good aftermarket air cooler?
Edit 1: after looking it up my buddy had a Gammaxx 400 (which doesn't use a backplate to mount). The Evo 212 looks WAY better than my initial thoughts were towards it.
LinusTechTips did a video on positive vs negative air pressure and found the difference in temperature settings was negligible at most. Positive air flow, however, should reduce the dust that enters your pc, assuming you have dust filters over your intakes.
Liquid cooling should not be remotely necessary. Yes, it will improve performance over air cooling, but for most users air cooling is plenty good. /u/smgswattted, are you using the stock cooler? if so, get an inexpensive aftermarket (hyper 212 evo probably still best value) instead. Make sure you also have at least one case fan.
As far as airflow, this video shows that the key factor is having an adequately sized heat sink.
Personally, I'd wager your problem stems from bad/old thermal compound (and possibly using a stock heat sink). [This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2p6Hk4IfqI} video explains what thermal compound is, and this video talks about how to apply it most effectively.
That said, /u/desuemery's list is very comprehensive/covers all the bases, but personally I'd suggest just getting that hyper 212 cooler and some new paste before getting liquid cooling or anything fancy unless you just want to be cool. That and get dust filters.
This is what i used, but you should google your specific CPU: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265056-29-2600k-2500k-overclocking-guide
Programs I used were CPUID CPU-Z, Real temp and Prime95. You should defintely get a new CPU fan. I purchased this: https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1469384246&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cool+master+hyper+212
I have a 2600k, i got it from 3.4 to 4.5. I could push it to 4.7 but the temps were going to high 70's, and i prefered low 70's. Mid 70's should be ok, but you are stressing the CPU the higher you go.
> Will this https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=ESRMAPZGA8BEGMR4GZ9N fit on the https://www.amazon.co.uk/Z97-PRO-Gamer-S1150-Gaming-Motherboard/dp/B00OK6Q1D0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1469468989&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=asus+z97
Also, I'm using amazon to purchase all these items mostly because It's easier for me to use and I have free shipping with Prime. I'm open to any suggestions on what to get or what not to get.
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8320FRHKBOX-FX-8320-8-Core-Black/dp/B009O7YU56/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1411659433&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=cpu CPU $140
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_y Fan $29
http://www.amazon.com/WD-Blue-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_z HDD $58
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Bronze-Certified-Supply/dp/B008RJZQSW/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1411659247&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=700w+psu PSU $70
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperClocked-Dual-Link-Graphics-02G-P4-2765-KR/dp/B00DHW4HXY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1411659125&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=graphics+card Graphics Card $230
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Motherboard-Motherboards-970A-G46/dp/B0073JYZ48/ref=psdc9_t1_B009FC3YJ8_B0073JYZ48 Motherboard $75
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Elite-431-Plus/dp/B005ZCTJ9Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1411578162&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=coolermaster+mid+tower+4+usb Tower Case $59
EDIT: Also, if you feel there's a slightly more expensive product that's better quality than one that I have listed, that would also be appreciated.
I'm not sure that heatsink will support LGA 2011, and I also don't know much about that particular one. I know one you can never go wrong with is the 212 Evo which is both inexpensive and a great performer. Also supports like every socket available.
Edit: Also would be happy to look over the components when youre ready
Got any ideas for budget? Also, what software will you be using and what bitrate, resolution and general quality settings are you planning on encoding at? Is it also a necessity for 32GB of RAM? You would probably be able to save a good chunk of money to put towards other parts if you went with 16 or perhaps 24.
I'm not sure on the display outputs of the GTX 480, however running 3 monitors off of that and one off your onboard graphics chip you should be good to go (aslong as the connections aren't VGA, as corpnewt mentioned; it's quite hit-and-miss). For onboard graphics I'd recommend a motherboard with a HD530 chip, they're pretty well supported and off the top of my head require 2 bootflags to get working.
In terms of motherboards it's not particularly my forte, so I may be wrong on some of these things. I think it's generally accepted that Gigabyte motherboards are the best for hackintoshing and are all round great boards, so I'd definitely recommend one. As I said you'd probably want a board with a HD530 chip, or another chip with similar support. Assuming you want 32 gig of RAM you're gonna need support for that, and if you go for 16 for now you still might want to go for a board that supports 32 incase you decide to upgrade in the future or if 16 is not enough. I'd also recommend the 115x chipset as imo is going to give you the most choices on CPU with the best compatibility. After some talks with /u/CorpNewt he suggested this Gigabyte board. It's got enough PCI-E slots, supported onboard graphics (HD530), support for 64gb of RAM, ThunderBolt and good hackintosh support which should check all the boxes.
CPU? 6700k; 4 cores, 8 threads, 4.0Ghz clock speed, it's overclockability gives you some headroom if you ever need a bump in performance, the most powerful CPU you can get on Skylake currently (yes the enthusiast CPU's are round the corner but they are silly money and this should be plenty of power), great longevity, and most of all have good OSX support.
The CPU can be found here. You're gonna want a cooler such as a Hyper 212 Evo or a Corsair H55 AIO (I can vouch for this cooler, have one myself and it's great). If you plan on overclocking or want to just in case, you should probably look at something a bit beefier like a Corsair H100i AIO.
The mobo can be found here.
Feel free to fire away with any questions you have.
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ Is a good cooler and its only $29. Very quite
I would say its depending in the ambiental temps. Here we are at 38°C and my idle CPU is ranging from 35 to 45°C, and I find it pretty normal. But I find yours to be just fine. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.
The Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo seems pretty good at that price range.
I would recommend this air cooler its cheaper on amazon by like 3 bucks
Am I looking at the right one? Why do you think
would be better than
I'm thinking of this MB https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Skylake-B150-Motherboard-PC/dp/B014YN64A8 along with this cpu fan: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Also, how much efficient is ddr4 ram compared to ddr3?
Things can't go wrong since your CPU is unlocked. But you need an aftermarket cooler first. This would fit your CPU just fine, https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI
Also, I think the heatsink that came with your processor should be fine, but i'd personally go for an aftermarket to OC.
Thanks man! For CPU cooling I have this heatsink added: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=bdl_pop_ttl_B005O65JXI
Would this work?
No, you need a heatsink. The only time I've seen CPUs without cooling is on small ARM chips or computers such as the Rasp Pi. You need thermal paste, a heatsink, and a fan. You can actually use a fanless heatsink for less intensive operations on chips like Pentiums or i3's, but I'm guessing you will be gaming so you need to buy a heatsink with a fan, such as this one. But if you're going for Intel, then you'll get a stock heatsink in the box for free, which I wouldn't recommend using if you're going to be gaming.
$29.99 on Amazon right now. I just replaced my stock fan on the 8320 with it. 12-15C cooler and quiet... Get it.
I suggest upgrading your CPU cooler to something possibly like the Cooler Master Hyper Evo, use some ArctiClean to clean up the CPU before the install after you remove the old cooler. I suggest using coffee filters to clean it up because they are lint free and work very well. You can find tutorials online on how to install a new cooler if you have any issues with it. You can either use the thermal paste the cooler comes with or get some Arctic Silver 5, I think Radioshack repackages it and sells it.
I also suggest setting it up so the fan is pushing air through the cooler towards the back of the case and if you can afford it, get a second fan for the other side and do a push/pull config and that will help temps a lot.
Or if you have enough room and want a good solution to lower CPU temps I suggest getting something like the Cooler Master Seidon 120XL. I have one in my build and helps the CPU temps since my case is so small
Also get some cable ties, that shit is a mess
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler with PWM Fan, Four Direct Contact Heat Pipes https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.BslDb2RHSAHD best bang for your buck imo.
Well for every PC I have built I have used the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo and it's worked perfectly on every machine I've built. For $35 you could reallocate some $$$ to getting 32GB of RAM which I feel would make a big difference for you!
CPU - Intel i5 8600k $239.
CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $30.
Motherboard - MSI Z370-A PRO $100.
RAM - Patriot Viper Elite Series 8GB DDR4 2400MHz $81.
SSD - PNY CS1311 240GB $70.
HDD - Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB $44.
Video Card - Zotac GeForce GTX 1050-Ti 4GB mini $200.
Case - NZXT S340 Black $70.
Power Supply - EVGA SuperNOVA G3 80+ Gold 550W $70.
Total Price: $904. Throw in Windows for an additional $90-$100. It's really hard to get a decent PC to be under $1,000 nowadays with the price of RAM and GPU's :( I think this build will suit you best though. It's definitely not bad,
I concur with other, a beefier cpu would be great, and it doesn't really have to be the latest series.
Also whatever cpu you decide I would throw in a cooler master hyper 212. It's way better than a stock cooler and you get a lot of bang for your buck.
Also use good paste, like arctic silver
This is also a bitch to [install] (https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_img_1?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=NEX772R28RYQQS6PV73K) I never had issues with this. Its basic but it does the job.
I was thinking of getting the krakan x62 for cpu cooler.
I don't need that much space just yet. Its really on the low end. I got a 250 just to boot windows quickly.
That was my next go to as well. Unfortunately I don't have a spare and moved to a place where I know nobody, but there is good old amazon I suppose.
Is the Cooler Master 212 Evo still a good bang for your buck heatsink?
I really don't know much about CPU fans (my gaming days are over and I primarily work with business machines both at work and home) but these don't look too bad. Hopefully someone more in the know will chime in though?
Check this thread
Without knowing if you are overclocking or how much room you have in your case, here are some possibilities:
Forgot to mention my cooler is a 212 evo, will it be sufficient for the new cpu? Also, what cpu/mobo am I aiming for? (apologies if this leans too much towards spoonfeeding)
stock cpu cooler might be able to handle a modest overclock but if you had the extra cash and wanted to be positive the cpu would stay cool then id say scoop a 212 evo as well
I wouldn't trust a "Refurbished" AIO
There was probably a reason why it got returned...
Is $65 worth risking your CPU/GPU when/if it does leak?
Get the almighty champ, the Hyper 212 Evo
Or another one that people recommend is the Noctua But its hella expensive..
UPDATE: I have found two cooling systems, one air based and one liquid.
The liquid is a Corsair Hydro Series High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler H60 for $60. https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-Performance-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B00A0HZMGA/ref=zg_bs_3015422011_1?tag=amazon0606-20
The cheaper one is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO for $35. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=zg_bs_11036281_1?tag=amazon0606-20
The cooling system is mandatory for the 8350 as, rumor has it, the heat sink that comes stock on the CPU is trash. Which would be the better option?
Cooler Master 212 Evo
Known to be one of the best
ooo... Are you oc'ing? I wouldn't suggest spending the extra on a liquid cooler especially with that cpu... unless you plan on oc'ing. My cpu runs at low temps on a 30 dollar coller master (https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1484883390&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cooler+master) and it only costs ~$34
Lowest its been on Amazon is $22 and that was back in 2015, otherwise the lowest sales are $25
I have similar idle temps on my PC, and also when I game. Right now I'm just planning on getting a simple Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Cooler [here] (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-120mm-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1347206084&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cooler+master+hyper+212+evo).
Well here is the THING LMAO Shhhhh do not tell anyone.. I ordered one from Amazon Heck I went with a NZXT X42 and MY GOD it was pretty.. Sent my old one back to in my case Coolermaster.. And got it back in under a month.. I then decided to send the NZXT one back because I hated the CAM software.. Pretty sure you can get a ok AIR cooler for under $30
Or something even less.. just as a backup.. Not sure what CPU you have.. But I see them from as low as $12
Your not going to be doing any overclocking on that but it is just to keep you up till you get the Warranty replacement IF that is what they say you need to do.
Do not Get a Cheap Air Cooler until you run through support with Corsair and they tell you to send in for RMA>
Then Order something to get you by..
Ah, right I didn't mention it; https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/?tag=pcpapi-20
And I agree - my current A8-5600K went from 3400 to 4300 which turned it from useless to passable. I doubt the difference here will be anywhere near that caliber. I don't overclock for the sake of it - wasting time and electricity + heat for 1fps or 15 seconds off of a render isn't worth it to me.
Having 2 cores meant that I had to gut Windows - often causing bugs I had to fix in the process - and prevented me from running some programs (or required extensive gutting) due to the CPU usage. I'm hoping that going from what seems to be 2 cores to 6 cores with 12 threads and better per core performance will make my every day experiences better in addition to cutting time off of renders and bakes.
And juuuuust maybe I can use the viewport settings that give me a better preview of what's going to be in the final build without turning the area into a furnace while those glorious 15 frames per second are churned out.
NVidia is my go to for this simply because CUDA cores are required for a lot of things + Vega isn't exactly killing it :/
My R9 270 is decent and I'd go to a 1060 if not for the 4K TV, the obvious factor that I'll use / need the extra horse power and VRAM, and my desire to check out VR.. which feels like a societal pressure to have a baby but instead coming from within - I know it's not ready yet and I'll just be disappointed but I'm also kinda tired of waiting, anxious to have experienced it, and could die at any minute because I'm a bike rider xD
If you can save up for it, I'd do so for the sake of future proofing - you might want higher resolution someday as 1080p is getting old now. If you're sure you have no intention of going above 2550x1600, you can get away with the 1060, save money, and still be prepared enough for the future. Still just get the 6600K, though, if your purpose is gaming. Hyperthreading doesn't get you much for that usage.
On overclocking: No, it's not at all difficult with unlocked chips. Get a half-decent cooler (the 212 evo will do just fine) instead of the stock one, and you should be good to go. You can find plenty of guides online for how to do it, and as long as you don't do anything blatantly stupid you literally cannot break anything.
CPU cooler: I have and love this one
Hard drive: I have and love the 64gb version of that hdd!
Video Card: I have and love this one. I suggest you get this one since you want more power. EVGA is always the best way to go for graphics cards.
Case: I have and love the red version of that case. It reaallly keeps everything cool. I have never seen my graphics card go above 75c, even after hours of gaming.
PS: Keep on keeping on destiny! As a gold level player, the most valuable lesson I got from your stream was "forget about everything, focus on mechanics". Glhf!
I'd probably go for the good old 212 Evo. They all perform more or less exactly like one another, but the Evo is the cheapest of the bunch.
Some suggestions if you are willing to spend a little more:
Would you consider a cheaper CPU with an SSD? With a G3258 you could afford a quieter cooler and a 240gb SSD and save about $25.
I’d also recommend a better CPU cooler than the stock, as they’re usually pretty bad. You can get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo for $30. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212E-20PK-R2-Direct-Contact/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2UFGCELHWCLLW&amp;keywords=212+evo&amp;qid=1554588181&amp;s=gateway&amp;sprefix=212+ev&amp;sr=8-1
The 9900k is at least 10% better in 99% of games , and u can get a decent air cooler for $30-$40 (like the Hyper 212) not to mention it will be better than AMD’s Wraith cooler. This makes them basically the same price. And depending where you buy it from, the 9900k + cooler is actually cheaper than the 3900x.
The 3900x is the better choice for people who do any type of content creation, multitasking, multiple monitors, etc... but if you’re purely gaming (like me and the majority of gamers) than the 9900k is clearly the better option.
It’s the low/mid range builds that AMD is dominating. The 3600 is incredible for the price. However intel is still king of the high end builds.
Idk how good are AM4 stock coolers, but if you're going to overclock the CPU, you should get a aftermarket cooler like this https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=cooler+master&qid=1558049360&s=gateway&sr=8-1
I shouldn't be criticizing anyways since my AM3 stock cooler (and my PC in general) are heavy paperweights :)
212 EVO Air cooler is $30 and beats this liquid cooler.
$19.99 with $10 rebate.