Reddit mentions of Deva Vegan Vitamin B-12 Fast Dissolve Lozenges 90 Tablets (2 Pack)

It can take up to 5 years for your B12 reserves to become depleted, but it's really bad if they do become depleated.

Here's an Amazon link to the one I buy. $15 for 180 tablets.

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Nuts, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds (I buy all 3 - raw, roasted and unsalted, roasted and salted), marinated vegetables, grilled artichokes in oil, hearts of palm, firm tofu (we buy 8 at a time!), sourdough bread, pumpernickel bread, peanut butter, almond butter, sunflower oil, arugula (if whole foods doesn't have it, I get most of my produce from aldi and whole foods), cashew yogurt, animal crackers, fried rice, japanese fried rice, black bean & corn enchiladas, multigrain crackers, rice crackers (I try to stay away from buying too many junky carbs but sometimes the kids come with lol and sometimes we'll get the soy ice cream), popcorn kernels, umami mushroom seasoning...there are quite a few other vegan things.

My friend loves the soy creamer (I just use unsweetened almond milk in my coffee).

Consider taking a b12 Methylcobalamin sublingual. You don't need a huge amount a day unless you're very low. https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamin-Dissolve-Lozenges/dp/B001GAOHTS/ref=sr_1_20?keywords=vegan+b12&qid=1569115000&s=hpc&sr=1-20

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For B12, I pop one of these every few days. I've never heard of it being affected by alcohol/marijuana use. It might also do you some good to also take a vegan vitamin D supplement, since most people are deficient anyways.

The nausea is not likely to be related to any specific nutrient deficiencies (a B12 deficiency usually takes years to manifest in any noticeable symptoms), but it is very possible that since you're probably eating different foods now than you did as an omni your stomach hasn't quite adjusted yet.

I'd highly recommend this book as a guide for healthy long term vegan nutrition. It's full of reliable science and teaches you how to be healthy as a vegan as opposed to some resources that try to convince people that a vegan diet is a silver bullet for anything and everything.

At this point, your blood results will be more likely to reflect your previous diet than they are your new vegan diet, so anything you see next Tuesday don't go 'OMG veganism is making me anemic/deficient/etc' based on those results. Also if you do have any deficiencies there are vegan solutions for all of them, so feel free to come on back and ask for more advice :]

Regarding your question about helping the environment: http://thevegancalculator.com/ <-- Go here and put in "1 year" into the calculator. Just one year, you're saving almost half a million gallons of fresh water, 15 THOUSAND pounds of grain, 11 THOUSAND square feet of forest and 7 THOUSAND pounds of carbon dioxide (compared to a typical animal-including diet). The calculator is supported by sources. Just by changing a few minor things about your lifestyle, you can have an incredibly drastic impact on the world.

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TL;DR regarding expense and difficulty - if you live in a very rural area in the USA, it can take some difficulty to find a good source of cheap bulk beans / lentils / vegetables / bulk (by weight) dried veggies. But they're sooooooo cheap; normally you can eat for $1-2 a day, plus B12 vitamin expenses ($5 a month).

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Longer explanation regarding expensive/difficult: Expense is very low; I pay much less now for food than before going vegan. Difficulty may vary depending on where you live. I happen to live in Denver, and it's very easy for me to find pretty much any substitute/vegetable I want. If you cook your own meals, there's really nothing different about cooking vegan - just use vegetable oil/avocado oil instead of butter, and buy veggies instead of meat. That's about it. Just make sure you eat a lot of beans or lentils or tofu.

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When I first became vegan, I was hit with the reality of vitamin/protein differences - I needed to purchase some vitamin supplements. Here's the list I have:

• Vitamin B12 (vegan source) - $5 a month - https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamin-Dissolve-Lozenges/dp/B001GAOHTS
  
• Protein Powder - $22 a month - https://www.amazon.com/Orgain-Organic-Protein-Chocolate-Packaging/dp/B00J074W94
  
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  These two made a big difference in my life. About 3 months after going vegan I started having some troubles related to protein (I work out a lot and my body wasn't used to the lower intake). I try to hit about 90g of protein a day (I am a reasonably athletic 6' male). I think a lot of vegans downplay the issues involved with protein - it's the source of a TON of jokes in the vegan community - but the truth is a lot of vegans simply don't get enough protein. And then they fall back into eating meat because they didn't know better. Which is really pretty silly because it's incredibly easy to supplement if you can't get it in your diet.
  
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  Other than what I've mentioned above, here's some things to consider (this list is HEAVILY biased towards a lazy, no-cook approach. If you have any cooking skill, just cook your own veggie meals, they're awesome, cheaper and fresher than anything listed below, but this is for the lazy days):
  
  
• If you like cheese, vegan cheese substitutes cost about the same as dairy cheese
  
• If you like milk, vegan milk (ANY type) is typically cheaper, better for you, and better for the environment than dairy milk
  
• Most oils, spices, salts, flavorings - are already vegan. There's no real change needed here. Butter costs more than vegetable oil anyway.
  
• Most BBQ sauce, buffalo sauce, spicy sauce, etc - all vegan generally.
  
• Most chips and junk food is already vegan. Except for the "flavored" sour cream/cheese type chips.
  
• If you like easy food/frozen food, Target sells a whole boatload of vegan microwave stuff (Gardein and others). "Chicken" nuggets, Fried "fish" sticks, "Chicken" wings, etc. Even Ben & Jerry's has a bunch of dairy-free vegan ice cream.
  
• Speaking of dessert, vegan desserts are cheaper and easier to make (and safer!! you can lick the spoon - no eggs!). And they taste way better.
  
• If you like burgers/hot dogs, check out Beyond the Meat. It's now cheaper than beef and is freaking amazing. They even sell it at Target now.
  
• Most bread is already vegan (just check the label). Vegan bread is generally cheaper than non-vegan.
  
• Most cereal is already vegan (just check the label).
  
• Most restaurants in the US charge less for veggie-based items. Although it is VERY true that you'll have a much more restricted menu choice.
  
• Fries are generally vegan, except for a few places (McDonalds, Buffalo Wild Wings, Smash Burger are the only ones around here that don't have vegan fries)
  
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  Finally, there are a few things I'd like to point out in MY PERSONAL OPINION that might turn you "off" of vegan foods if you try them off the bat (a lot of people buy terrible choices and then say "vegan alternatives are bad". No, they are just poor choices lol)
  
  
• Avoid buying Daiya products if you want a realistic cheese/dairy alternative. They are the lowest common denominator. They are readily available everywhere for cheap, but they don't taste very good. Try to find Miyoko's or Follow Your Heart instead.
  
• Some substitute items are coconut based, or cashew based, or oat based, or whatever-based. There is a reason that 50 alternatives exist. Some people like some, some people like others. You know how you go to the store, and there are 50 different BBQ sauces, and the ONE you like is sold out, and you're super bummed? Yeah, same thing for vegan items - brand differences, tastes, and preferences exist - just because it's vegan doesn't mean it's any different than other products. Too many people say "vegan food" when really that lump-category doesn't exist.
  
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  The best advice I can give is to JUST TRY IT. Just go a few days making vegan food. You don't need to say "I'M GOING VEGAN", you don't need to have some public moment - you can just privately try it out. It's pretty fun!

Unfortunately not really, unless you get fortified foods. I just make sure to take a B-12 supplement (this one) and sometimes use nutritional yeast when I remember to buy it.

http://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Sublingual-Tablets/dp/B001GAOHTS

I'm guessing this would work.

When it comes to nutrients, I first strive to see if I can get everything I need from the foods (juice) I eat. With a juice diet high in greens, along with the handy analysis available from Wolfram Alpha, I can ensure that I am getting a good spread of all of my amino acids, all essential vitamins and minerals, and even check my Omega 3-6 ratios. The only nutrient completely missing in a juice based diet would be vitamin B-12, and I take care of this with a daily sublingual vitamin.. As an added level of precaution, I am also taking a daily multivitamin, and that's it. I prefer to keep things as simple and uncomplicated as I can and I'm already getting more than enough protein as it is.

Here's the recommendations for B12 for a normal person.

> Eat two servings per day of foods fortified with at least 2 to 3.5 mcg of vitamin B12 each. You’ll need to eat these servings at least 4 hours apart to allow for optimal absorption.
Take a daily supplement providing 25 to 100 mcg of vitamin B12
Take a supplement providing 1,000 mcg of vitamin B12 twice per week. This is for cyanocobalamin.

> For those who prefer to take methylcobalamin, it’s likely that 1,500 mcg per day would meet needs. But again, it’s difficult to make specific recommendations about this.

Some brands: Deva, Doctor's Best, Now Foods have good reviews.

Methyl and Cyano are different forms of B12 and both are fine. Vegans use both; for which one is better, I have no idea. They have slightly different dosage recommendations. BUT since you're low, I would take any of the brands I listed daily. Go again in 3 months to see if your levels have changed. I get B12 from a 1000mcg cyanocobalamin 3/week, and eat fortified foods like nutritional yeast and soy milk.

Just going to tack this on in case anybody doesn't know. B12 deficiencies can be very serious. It can lead to permanent damage and is hard to diagnose since it causes a myriad of issues, especially psychological problems. You can go blind and even die from it.

Pretty much every vegan and vegetarian should be taking B12. I like these personally.

Watch out for gelatin. Alot of pills got dat to. I order my b12 off Amazon. Deva Vegan Vitamin B-12 Fast Dissolve Lozenges 90 Tablets (2 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GAOHTS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_1BUTBbBAWZMTB (super cheap for a total of 180 pills)

Deva is good. Here's an Amazon link, but you may be able to find it elsewhere. Also, that's 180 tablets but you can buy 90 instead if you don't mind paying slightly more per pill. Each of those pills supplies 16,666% of the US RDA. They are sublingual tablets, so you put them under your tongue and let them dissolve over 10-20 minutes. They have citrus flavor.

You could take them every day if you wanted (pretty much impossible to overdose on B12), but a couple times a week should be sufficient. Just a disclaimer: It's possibly to have medical conditions where it's just not possible to absorb enough B12 orally and injections are required, so don't assume that it's absolutely impossible to become deficient if you take large amounts orally. Also, I'm not a doctor and this isn't medical advice. :)

No, I meant what I quoted earlier that you are ignoring. What you just posted was in your opinion piece (says so in the URL) that has incorrect information. For one example:

> A vegan diet may lack vitamin B12, found only in animal foods

Here is a b12 supplement that is also vegan:
https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamin-Dissolve-Lozenges/dp/B001GAOHTS?th=1

So clearly it is not only in animal foods. Again, I have no reason to trust that website whatsoever, and neither do you, if you care about facts and truth.

Again, try harder. If you make claims cite them from actual scientific sources. Preferably ones that you've actually read, so I don't have to explain to you why they aren't saying what you think they are saying.

Deva, Vegan B12, Sublingual, 90 Tablets.
https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Sublingual-Tablets/dp/B001GAOHTS
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I take one Deva sublingual B12 every month. My B12 was at the top of the normal range when I got my blood tested this year.

Eggs, yogurt, and milk have B12.

There are also B12 suppliments for vegans/vegetarians who don't eat those things.

Sounds like you need some more meals in your repetoire. What did you eat before?

While I'm waiting for your response, here are some of my favorite easy dishes. Some of them lend themselves to cooking in bulk. I find it very convenient to make large batches and then freeze leftovers in individual portions so I can just grab and reheat them.

• Oatmeal: Follow the directions on the package, flavor with jam, cinnamon and sugar, maple syrup, frozen fruit, peanut butter, or whatever else you like.
  
  
• Tofu scramble: tofu crumbled up around in a pan with onions, garlic, and the veggies of your choice.
  
  
• Microwaved potato or sweet potato: wash, poke holes in it with a fork, microwave on high for 5 minutes and then turn over and repeat until soft
  
  
• Pasta salad: Cooked pasta with tomato, onion and cucumber, salt, pepper and a dressing of olive oil and lemon juice.
  
  
• One pot lentil dish: Sautee onions and garlic in a pot (add other veggies too if you like). stir in one cup lentils and one cup rice, add 4 cups liquid (vegetable stock or water) bring to a boil, reduce to a simmer for 20 minutes. After 20 minutes, taste and season as needed.
  
  
• Black bean tacos: Sautee onions and garlic in a pot until tender. Add canned black beans with liquid. Simmer until creamy, flavor with salt, pepper, and lime juice to taste. Serve on tortillas with toppings of your choice (I like sauteed squash, spinach and hot sauce).
  
  
• Peanut noodles: Cook some rice noodles. Make a peanut sauce with peanut butter, sesame oil, salt, and lime juice. Throw in some tofu and green onions if you like, serve with sriracha.
  
  
• Pizza: Order pizza without cheese. Add avocado and hot sauce. Or hummus. Yum!
  
  
• Roasted eggplant sandwiches: Preheat oven to 400 F. Wash an eggplant, brush with olive oil, and wrap in foil. Bake the eggplant until the center collapses. Scoop out the insides (carefully, it's hot), season with salt and pepper, and serve on a nice bread with some greens.
  
  
• Creamy soups: I do this with all kinds of veggies, but the basic template is to sautee onions, garlic and my veggie of choice (I've used celery, mushrooms, leeks, broccoli, kale). Once they're tender, add clean quartered potatoes, cover with liquid (vegetable broth or water with bouillon cubes), bring to a boil, then simmer 20 minutes or so. Blend with an immersion blender or food processor, season to taste.
  
  The recipes above are very brief overviews, I can go into more detail on any of them if you're interested. And if you'll mention what your previous favorite meals are, maybe we can suggest similar recipes. If eating out is a problem, I can make some suggestions there too.
  
  If you don't have one already, get a vegan B12 supplement. It's essential. This is my favorite brand.

Most grocery stores will carry it (make sure it doesn't have a gelatin capsule!) I order 180 tablets at a time from amazon for ~$15 which I take every other day, so it lasts quite a while!

I use these, they've got a slight orange flavor and dissolve pretty quickly. Take about 3 a week.

As another raw foodist, let me give you guys another take on this. On a typical day, I'll start will a huge-ass smoothie (Kale, bananas, OJ, blueberries, wheat germ, water, filling a full 64oz Vitamix pitcher) that I will split up between breakfast and lunch. If I'm extra hungry, I'll eat some fruit here and there as well.

By dinner time, I'll be wanting a big salad (Big = 1 lb kale + 1 lb spinach + a large tomato + 1/2 avocado + a dressing made from tahini, garlic and lemon).

This may not seem like much, but have a look at the nutritional breakdown on Wolfram Alpha.

In the example above, I am getting 84 grams of protein, with good coverage in all the essential amino acids, sufficient Omega-3 and Omega-6 (in favorable proportions), huge amounts of most of my vitamins and minerals. My shortcomings here are vitamins D and B-12. I take a daily vegan multivitamin, a vegan D3 supplement and a B-12 supplement, just to make sure I'm not missing out on anything.

For exercise, I ride my bike an hour each way to work and back M-F. Between the food and the cycling, I stay in pretty good shape.

Same company for b12
https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamin-Dissolve-Lozenges/dp/B001GAOHTS/ref=sr_1_4_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499873159&sr=1-4&keywords=vegan+b12

The way we make change with veganism is by taking our money away from people who exploit animals and by raising awareness, so if I have an accident, and if fixing it wouldn't take back the money or improve people's regard for veganism, I just forgive myself and let it go. If I dispose of the non-vegan thing instead of consuming it, it's mostly just because I feel icky about it.

I recently went vegan after being vegetarian for a few years. It was hard at first to think of what to eat, but the breakthrough that made me feel better about it was reminding myself that I can still eat whatever I'm craving in some form or another. I try to imagine exactly what I would want for dinner if I weren't even vegetarian/vegan and then I google "easy vegan ___." This has led to some great things like vegan eggs benedict (yum). You're working to help animals, so you've got to make it fun and treat yourself.

I also take a vegan multivitamin and B12 supplement so that I can eat whatever I feel like without worrying so much about whether I'm killing myself.

no not very expensive. usually <$10. The trick is to find some that are from a vegan source and don't contain gelatin. When you goto the grocery store look at their vitamin section. There is usually a small selection of vegetarian / organic vitamins. I get my local stores brand so I can't really recommend a specific vitamin. Amazon has [these.] (http://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Sublingual-Tablets/dp/B001GAOHTS/ref=pd_sbs_hpc_5)

Never tried them and maybe a tad expensive. Sometimes a multivitamin has a good vitamin B selection. Your doctor might be able to get you prescription vitamins as well. Depending on your insurance that might be a good deal.

I don't know where you live, but I buy dried beans and rice and make tacos that are probably ~.20 cents each and be full AF. I buy dry soybeans and make milk at home. My grocery bill went down like crazy after I starting buying only vegan food.

Any diet can be as expensive/inexpensive as you want it to be. Also, I'm talking specifically about the vegan convenience foods in my last post. The grocery store is full of normally cheap food that happens to be vegan. Bread, grains, veggies, fruit...ect...

Poorer nations usually eat a vegetarian/plant-heavy diet due to the fact that meat/dairy is more resource heavy per calorie. If you look at traditional Ethiopian cuisine, you'll see what I mean.

As far as the nutrition, for those that are worried they can take a B12/Amino supplement which can be ordered via mail. Here is 90 weeks worth of B12 for $15. It comes down to if you want to take a supplement on its own, or pay more to get it from the animal's flesh.

There is plenty of iron/calcium in vegetables. This isn't an issue.

Look - I'm no nutritionist, but it seems like a strong hypothesis that if you eat a diet with the highest nutrient to calorie ratio, you're probably going to be in good shape. Most Americans don't eat enough fiber, but no one bats an eye at that.

I know this is anecdotal, but I know hundreds of vegans. None of them have diet-related health problems, are obese, or have deficiencies that I know of. I'm not saying that can't happen but I look at my meat eating family ravaged by health issues and I can't help but wonder. I've also never heard of anyone I know have a protein deficiency.

Looks like amazon has Deva B12 eligible for the "subscribe & save" program too, which is pretty awesome - http://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Sublingual-Tablets/dp/B001GAOHTS/ref=sr_1_1_sns?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&ie=UTF8&qid=1310665429&sr=8-1

Ok, sure - I've listed a pretty typical day below, including supplements.

Breakfast

• Deva vegan multivitamin
  
• Deva DHA
  
• Deva B12
  
• Nature's Path Blueberry Cinnamon Flax cereal
  
• Fresh or frozen blueberries
  
• Almond milk
  
• Small cup of coffee
  
• Water
  
  Lunch
  
  
• Mix of bulgar, quinoa, frozen veggies, and nutritional yeast (sometimes with lentils or other beans as well)
  
• An apple
  
• Water
  
  Afternoon snack
  
  
• Another apple, other piece of fruit, or a little hummus with pita chips or pretzels
  
  Dinner
  
  
• Greek ragout (includes potatoes, tomatoes, green beans, onions, garlic, and cometimes I add zucchini - recipe from The Mediterranean Vegan Kitchen)
  
• One or two Gardein Marinara Chicken Filets
  
• Water
  
  Evening snack
  
  
• Popcorn and/or another apple
  
• Dark chocolate

I had a diagnosed B12 deficiency that resulted in numbness and tingling in various parts of my body as well as an electric shock sensation that would sometimes run down my spine starting from the top of my neck. I now take 1000mcg methylcobalamin b12 sublingually 1-2 times per week. I have had semi-regular blood tests ever since my diagnosis and I am now fully convinced that I am getting enough b12 from my supplement. Also, it's worth noting that my negative symptoms improved considerably within a few days and completely vanished after a few months. This is the brand I take: https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamin-Dissolve-Lozenges/dp/B001GAOHTS

However, it's worth noting that my B12 deficiency was caused by lifestyle factors and I discontinued that aspect of my lifestyle immediately at the same time I started supplementing B12. That means that I may have already been getting enough B12 and simply removing the negative lifestyle factor was sufficient. However, I do not believe there is B12 in any of the foods I consume on a regular basis, so it must have come from somewhere. I'm 99% positive the supplement played an essential role in my recovery.

Much better. I'd been forgetting words when talking and feeling a lot of fatigue. I am doing much better now. I take the Deva B-12 sublingual pills. I try to take them at least 5 times a week (I leave them at work because I seem to remember better there).

DEVA makes a good B12

What is your diet like? Are you female? And do you get outside much during the day?

You should be able to get b-vitamins and iron from meat and vitamin D from animal products and the sun. Lots of foods are fortified with these vitamins, too. You can cook in a cast iron skillet for iron. Floradix can bring up iron levels, too. b12 supplements. Vitamin D.

Yeah, these are the ones I have, sure it's not candy but it's kind of like PEZ just more mellow/neutral... no odor as far as I've noticed - https://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Sublingual-Tablets/dp/B001GAOHTS/ref=pd_nav_hcs_bia_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=HCCZ1EH7HE94PJ80CYBG&th=1

The one that I take is a b12 and folic acid supplement. It's sublingual so it's super easy to take too.

http://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Sublingual-Tablets/dp/B001GAOHTS/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1457978693&sr=8-3&keywords=vegan+folic+acid+b12

http://www.amazon.com/Deva-Vegan-Vitamins-Sublingual-Tablets/dp/B001GAOHTS

30 bucks will last you a year.

look for DEVA B12 online. I got a supply of 180 pills for 15 dollars, and take about one a week.

No problem! It can feel very overwhelming at first, but it gets easier once you have a few go-to recipes. As an addendum to the kickstarter (or the advice in this thread in general), make sure you are supplementing your diet with B12. The simplest way to do so is probably to just take a vegan multivitamin daily, or just a B12 supplement if you feel that your other nutritional needs are being met. Good luck!

> there is no natural non-animal source of B-12

This isn't correct. You can get vegan sublingual B-12 supplements (vegan because they are derived from the soil bacteria that grazing animals get it from, sublingual for optimum absorption). If you get them through Amazon's "Subscribe & Save", you get a discount and free shipping to have them automatically mailed to you when you run out.

I strongly recommend taking these if you want to avoid the inevitable "vegan brain cloud" and other serious neurological problems that can come from a B-12 deficiency. I hit this about three months after going vegan and it was very scary.

With the protein thing, honestly, if you're eating a wide variety of produce you won't even have to worry about it. Get plenty of grains (whole wheat, brown rice, quinoa), legumes (beans), tubers (potatoes), and a variety of vegetables. Grains and tubers do wonders for making you feel full. Drink a lot of water to maximize the effect.

There is no question that any clinician would tell you to take a supplement if you are observing any diet which includes no meat.

I mean, ignoring the obviously questionable sources, what is so wrong with taking a supplement? I never understood why many veg*n's have an issue with taking a supplement that is manufactured in a veg_n friendly manner. They are not hard to find. It's mind boggling.