Reddit mentions of Eat Like You Care: An Examination of the Morality of Eating Animals

That's an awesome decision to look into going vegan! It's so much easier than you'd think once you start. This veganuary website is loaded with tips and info to get folks started. Plus the FAQ on the side bar might answer some basic questions.

If you're up for more motivation Earthlings is a very powerful movie which will likely cement your resolve to step out of an unnecessary system. Also Forks over Knives and Vegucated are on netflix which are much less graphic and provide lots of info.

I also like to recommend books to help people learn more about the ethics of animal consumption. Eating Animals is a great read from an investigative angle from a renowned novelist and Eat Like You Care is a short and very powerful case for the ethical necessity of not consuming animals.

Regarding your health, so long as you eat a varied diet and occasionally add a B12 supplement you health will not suffer and very possibly improve!

You're making an awesome decision and you will be amazed at how easy it gets after just a few weeks!

When you decide to go vegan you put yourself in a position that is against the mainstream and you will almost certainly be asked to defend that position at some point.

At that point I think it's important to have your facts straight and your arguments as solid as possible, be aware of the logical fallacies that will be used against you, and have answers prepared.

I think the majority of people here were persuaded by someone else's good argument. So maybe "we want to have solid arguments" would have been a better way to word it. The end result of these solid arguments would be changing public opinion and having more people go vegan.

I recommend the book Eat Like You Care, which covers many of the "But... where do you get your protein?" type questions that will come up:

https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Like-You-Care-Examination-ebook/dp/B00DLTN43C

Edit: totally changed my answer after thinking about it for 5 minutes. My bad. :)

In general, ethics is a very complex territory so it's natural to have a hard time. I highly recommend the book Eat Like You Care which covers this matter surgically. I find this video very enlightening if you want something faster.

I hope those can be helpful, good luck!

Sounds interesting. I will have to check it out.

http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Like-You-Care-Examination-ebook/dp/B00DLTN43C/

1. The answeres would vary. For welfarists, they want laws in place that promote 'happy meat'. The [problem with this demand is that even if it gets to be where there are laws in place to protect the animals, they're unlikely to work. Heavy abuse would still happen because it's the interest of property v. interest of property owners. New welfarist have the same goal of reforming current animal abuse in factory farms and other such places but want to slowly approach animals being recognized as nonhuman persons [and thus not property]. Abolitionists want to forgoe the animal abuse problem and get animals to be recognized as nonhuman persons in the eyes of the law [again, and thus not property, therefor enabling them to have rights] and want to get as many people as possible to go vegan.
   
2. Your answer presupposes that everyone will go vegan overnight. Unlikely. The supply will slowly go down with the demand and it will get to be to where there's few farms left. The remaining animals [should there be some when animals are recognized as nonhuman persons] will more than likely not allowed to be killed and either could be kept as pets [some rights activists insist on saying companion animals. I don't see much problem with the label pet, besides implied ownership of the animal] or released into the wild.
   
3. The fact that we don't have to eat meat is what makes it morally wrong. If we care about animals and recognize them as beings and not thing, we have a morale obligation to go vegan.
   
4. I am inclined to agree with your friends. You seem more or less like a welfarist and would be content with eating 'hapopy meat'. The thing of it is, you are still taking a life for no other reason than palette pleasure. That animal, regardless of how happy it is on one farm or another, valued its' life just as much as you did. Claiming to care about animals, yet killing them because you enjoy the taste is blatant hypocrisy. In the human context, we would never talk about humane enslavement or humane child abuse. It's lip service to the animal to say we love it, but we just love bacon more.
   
5. I'm not sure if I understand the question fully but. Indeed, more people should listen to the vegan side. The reason some vegans have stopped listen to the opposing side is because we've heard all the same excuses and sometimes flat out stupidity over and over again. Read any animal rights book and you'll find all the BUTS that we've heard too many times to care. Yet we have to be patient and listen to these objections to get others to go vegan.
   http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DLTN43C/ref=s9_simh_gw_p351_d1_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1ZRVNQNR6DRS6R7SD8JZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846
   If you would, please buy this book. It explains with clarity why you either need to go vegan or you are treating animals as merely things