Reddit mentions of Edwin Jagger Double Edge Safety Razor, Chrome, Regular Handle, 5 blades

As someone explained, ingrown hairs happen when the hair doesn't actually break the surface of the skin, the most common cause for them is shaving with poor gear or incorrectly. Basically you shave and instead of cutting the hair, the razor pulls it slightly out from the hair follicle before actually cutting it. So when the hair grows back, if it's even slightly off from it's previous position, there's a good chance it won't break through the skin and end up as an ingrown hair.

Some people also have naturally very curly hair which then ends up causing much more ingrown hairs than most others. If they just happen even without shaving then the issue is a bit more difficult to manage and there's actually very little you can do about it. However if they happen after shaving, then solution do exist.

I'm going to detail some things you can do about your shaving routine that should help with ingrown hairs.

First of all, get yourself a double edge razor. If you want something cheap you can get one for about 3$ from Amazon, for something a bit better and more expensive the Edwin jagger DE89 is an excellent razor. There are literally hundreds of other options out there, you can often find DE razors from antique shops, flea markets or just your parents/grandparents place. And vintage razors are often extremely good if they are in decent shape.

Next you'll need some blades, I recommend buying a sampler pack again this one is about 11$. The reason you want a sample pack is because certain blades work better for certain people, so you can try them out and find the blade that fits you.

Now why on earth would you spend the whopping 15$ on technology from 70's when you have the new gilette 20 blade razor that is supersharp technology masterpiece? Mostly because it's not supersharp, well..It kinda is but it won't stay that way. The problem is that blades go dull, and when blades go dull they don't cut well, when they don't cut well they tug the hair and you end up with ingrown hairs. The easy solution is to change the cartridge often, but the cartridges are really goddamn expensive so you don't want to do that. DE blades? You can get a years supply for 20-30$, change it every 1-3 shaves and you can ensure the blade stays sharp and cuts well.

Someone also suggested exfoliating the skin, but you can kill two birds with one stone. You can get yourself a shaving brussh, something simple like the Omega 10077 it's a good, cheap starter brush it's a bit on the harder side so you can easily use it to exfoliate your skin prior to shaving. With that you can get a tube of Proraso shaving cream which is leaps and bounds better than the stuff you get from a supermarket in a can. Then to top it off get yourself some nice aftershave to calm your skin after shaving.

Now you'll also need to change your entire routine a bit. Slap a blade on your new razor, fill your sink up with some hot water and let your brush soak in the water. While your brush soaks rinse the areas you want to shave with plenty of hot water, this helps to open up the pores and soften your hair prior to shaving. If you want you can use some pre-shave to try and keep the irritation to your skin to minimum. Now you'll need to prep some lather, you can use a bowl, your hand or just do it right where you want to shave Here's a good guide on what you can do. The basic idea is to make sure your brush isn't exactly dripping wet but still wet, get about an almond size drop of the shave cream, then just mix up the cream like you'd be mixing eggs, add drops of water if needed. Once you have some lather, apply it in the places you want. You should use rather brisk circular motions, these help to prop your hair up and makes them easier to shave. Applying cream with hands usually has the bad effect of pushing your hair flat on your skin which makes shaving harder.

Now you have some lather so you'll need to shave. There are two main things to keep in mind with a DE: Blade angle and pressure.

Basically there is an ideal blade angle and finding one will take some time. However there is an entire wiki page dedicated to this. The second one is pressure, with a cartridge razor you ten dto press it against your skin, because the blades are dull and you try to shave as well as possible. With a DE, you should not put any pressure on your skin. The blade is sharp enough to cleanly cut the hair with zero pressure. Getting a hang of it is gonna take a week or so, but once you do you will consistently get better shaves. And be sure to rinse your blade often with the water you have in your sink, you don't want too much cream clogging the blade up.

The basic three pass DE shave includes one pass with the grain of the hair, another across the grain and the final pass is done very carefully against the grain and only if needed or you absolutely want to do it. Shaving against the grain gives you the best shave, but also irritates your skin more and is much more likely to end up with reddish skin or small cuts. So you fist shave everything with the grain, then rinse, apply lather, shave across the grain, rinse, and shave against the grain if needed.

Finally rinse with cool water, dry yourself up and apply aftershave. For other post-shave products you can get yourself an Alum bloc. It's a natural astringent that closes up most small razor nicks. After your final pass and after rinsing your face, grab the block and just massage it on the areas where you shaved, then rinse your face again. Another excellent product is witch hazel. It's again an all natural skin care product, it helps to cool, refresh and revitalize your skin. You can also use it daily even if you don't shave. Personally I apply witch hazel after I rinse off the alum. Then wait a few minutes and apply after shave.

Doing all that should help to decrease skin irritation and reduce ingrown hairs. And those products are just a dip in he ocean, there are hundreds of soaps, aftershaves, creams and all manner of other things you can get cheap and easy. Check out /r/wicked_edge for more.

Whoa... that is a lot, you can probably put it together for a lot less.

As a suggestion:

Razor: Edwin Jagger DE89 $32

Brush: Omega boar brush (or something similar) $14 - Leisureguy can probably recommend a better one for the same price

Soap: Proraso (kinda like a creamy soap) ~ $10

Alum block: Bloc Osma $9

And as an additional:

Book: Leisureguy's Guide to Gourmet Shaving $10

The above comes to only $76, leaving you enough money for a brush stand, a sampler pack and maybe an aftershave!

EDIT: Looks like most of the money in the kit is the shaving stand (currently going for $22.99 on eBay), while you can get a perfectly functional one for $9 or make your own from a coat hangar

Yeah, like a real mans razor.

I wash my face in the shower with this

Then I lather up with this using this

Shave with this or if I feel like being a gentleman this

I then rinse my face with cold water and apply this which feels like the gods just came on my face

Let that dry for a minute and apply this and I am good to go

Was using this but found it too harsh for my face so left it out

I've never been one for a skincare routine, but with the help of some guys at a high end barber shop in my city I hammered out this setup over the past year or so. The improvements have been significant.

Plus the bitches get wet when they see the straight razor. I like wet bitches.

I'd start with the Kit suggestions and FAQ in the sidebar.

In short you will NEED: A razor, razor blades and soap or cream.
Optional but Highly Recommended: a brush, shaving bowl, alum stick, witchhazel, styptic pencil, a sampler pack of blades to find what works best for you.

Typical recommendations are the Edwin Jagger de89bl with a sampler pack and an inexpensive kit or a slightly nicer kit

However if you give us a budget range or your interests that could help point you in the right direction.

Also if you are looking at straight razors, I will have to defer to those more knowledgeable than I.

Dude here, same problem. Let me pass down some bro knowledge that year of experimenting and hundreds of dollars has produced. I'm serious in saying I don't know why everybody shaves like me. It's damn near free in upkeep too.

Invest in a safety razor, this is the one I use and you cannot go wrong with it http://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-DE89bl-Chrome-Plated/dp/B003LW4L2W. The blades are pennies each and last multiple shaves. The initial investment is big, but the shave is the gentlest shave you can give your skin, short only of a cut throat razor done by a professional. I won't go into detail of why this safety razors are gentler than the crappy cartridge junk the industry is peddling us these days, you can google that yourself.

Next, ditch shaving cream. I've used the butane crap to the highest end like Taylor of Old Bond Street. They all leave a residue, which clogs, which sucks. The best way is actually to shave while cleansing your face with a gentle cleanser. I use Cerave Hydrating, and the lotion texture is perfect for shaving. La Roche Posay Toleraine Cleanser will work very well too, or any other non foaming/lotion like texture cleanser. Use a very conservative shaving motion (the safety razor is intuitive to the male creature, believe me), and shave with the grain. Also, get a fogless shower mirror, you can get that off Amazon for under $20.

It's a bit to invest in initially, after 8 years of countless Gilette cartriges, handles, butane creams, shaving brushes, shaving cups, traditional shaving creams, and heck even waxing, this works for me. I wish I knew this when I was just another hapless 15 year old boy wiping space goo on my face and mowing it down with those mini cheese graters.

• Razor: Edwin Jagger DE89, DE86, or DE87. (just the handles are different) £20.
  
• Brush: Omega 10065 boar brush £4.80
  
• Blade sampler: 10 brands 65 blades £9.90
  
• Shaving cream/soap: Tesco sells Palmolive shaving cream for £1.80 or Palmolive shaving stick £0.50 (might be available at ASDA).
  
  
• ASDA, and Boots should sell "The real shaving company" shaving cream (might be called "Groomed"). The real shaving company sensitive shaving cream can be purchased from Connaughtshaving as well.
  
  Total: about £40 (including shipping).
  
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1. The razor you have selected is good.
   
2. The Arko soap is good, but I have absolutely no idea what brush that is. This is reason for concern, because some boar brushes have the tips clipped which makes them really harsh for your face. I personally would not purchase that kit.
   
3. Do not purchase razor blades in a bulk until you have tried a blade sampler pack. You can pretty much ignore any razor blade reviews, because you can't know for sure how they will work for you. Read this article about blades by Leisureguy, he explains it well. Blade sampler pack is a must have.
   
4. Shaving stand is one of those things that somewhat divides peoples opinions. I'm personally strongly of the opinion that the shaving stand isn't necessary. Here is a very recent thread about it. I suggest you read the comments through. But if you want you can get the stand.
   
   
   HERE is what I recommend for DE kit. Mainly posting that for all the information links in that post, I suggest you check them out.
   
   Lastly if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask, people here will happily help you.

Items bought:

Edwin Jagger De89bl,
Blade sampler,
Toner,
Alum Block,
Shave Set,
Soap

Edit: links

I browsed /r/wicked_edge for a bit before diving in. Their FAQ should be a good place to get you started.

I've improved my pre- and post-shave routines as well as using a brush and non-canned shaving cream. Anecdotally, the learning curve wasn't very steep for me (a few nicks and cuts starting out) and I'm noticing that my issues with sensitive skin and ingrown hairs are resolving.

Your start-up costs may seem a little steep, but you can find some deals or cheaper gear and upgrade later. The fact that I actually enjoy shaving and feel better after doing it more than makes up for the initial purchase.

I started with the following:

Razor Emporium Sensitive Skin Blade Sampler pack

Musgo Real Lime Glyce Soap

Parker Safety Razor SYNTHETIC Bristle Shaving Brush

Taylor of Old Bond Street Avocado Shaving Cream

Edwin Jagger DE89bl Chrome Plated Double Edge Safety Razor

Gentleman Jon 3.5 Ounce Alum Block

The kits on the side are a little outdated. I'd recommend the Edwin Jagger DE89, the perfect first razor. Grab some MRGLO (Musgo Real Glycerine Lime Oil) as a preshave soap, Proraso (seems to be popular around here although I haven't tried it myself), a good blade sampler, pick up some Nivea aftershave balm from your nearest target/CVS, and you should be good to go.

Creams do lather a little easier than soaps depending on the water situation. I don't have any experience with soaps so I don't feel I should comment much longer on them.

RAD = Razor Acquisition Disorder; GAS = Gear Acquisition Syndrome.

EDIT: I guess I did forget a brush and alum block. Oh well, others here posted good recommendations too.

Fair enough but I would price what amazon gives you against one of those sites. I would suggest getting an Edwin Jagger DE89, really good starter razor, or a parker though you will need someone else to tell you which one to get.

You will need a brush so look for omega brushes, these are boar brush that are cheap and once broken in can become as soft as a silvertip badger brush. As for shaving soap there is a vast array to choose from but I have been using proraso which is easy to get a nice lather from. Though if you are on a tight budget get arko, though be warned that some people hate the smell of it (it does die down after a few weeks).

As for aftershave you can pick up nivea aftershave balm from your local drugstore or supermarket. You will also need an alum block and styptic pencil, just get the cheapest ones you can find. Though you could use a healing cut gel instead of a styptic pencil, which would avoid the milky white marks the styptic pencil leaves behind.

edit: forgot to say about sample blades. Most sample blade packs on amazon are ridiculously priced so use try a blade to get a selection of sample blades. Start of with 5 different types of blades

The blades I would suggest are:

• 1.Astra SP
  
• 2.Gillette Silver Blue
  
• 3.Derby, a lot of people dislike these blades but I think they offer a good starting point.
  
• 4.Feather, I would leave this blade to try after you have developed your technique for a month or 2, as they are unforgiving to a beginner.
  
• 5.BIC

I use a cappuccino mug from the dollar store. Spend that money on a razor. Edwin Jaggers are on sale right now: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003LW4L2W/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1944687682&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002RBF1PO&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1BMJDJA6EFT0BNHCW9CY

I possess extremely long, extremely thick, extremely coarse, extremely curly hair. Think somewhere between Claudio Sanchez of Coheed & Cambria and the fat guy from Lost except halfway down by back.

Every day, I shower. When I do so, I wet my hair then rub it down with a cedarwood/rosemary shampoo bar (solid-form shampoo composed mostly of saponified shea butter and jojoba oil without any natural-oil-stripping sulfates) and lather it up. I let it sit for awhile, then rinse. After that, I apply a thick coat of dandruff-defense conditioner (liquid form) and let that stand while I wash my body (with a fancy loofa and a really nice bar of cold-pressed, natural soap called "Desert Sands"). I rinse the conditioner out, wring most of the water out of my hair, and then step out of the tub.

I apply a mist of leave-in spray condtioner and let it stand while I shave (using a variety of natural shaving soaps and/or creams with a badger hair brush, a German safety razor, and a number of facial care products including an alum block, witch hazel splash, and moisturizer) and brush my teeth. I finally run a large brush (with scalp-protecting beads on the bristles and a malleable backing to allow it to shape itself to the contours of my head as I brush) through my hair until there are no more knots or tuggy spots..

On work days, I'll throw on my shirt, pull my hair back, then brush it back into a ponytail that I'll hold up with a hairtie. Otherwise I let it airdry into a gloriously fluffy, unbelievably soft, and delicious-smelling mane that encircles my entire head and neck and draws the eye of every woman I pass.

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What else would we use indeed!

What you're ordering looks good. There's nothing wrong with your razor but I personally think this one is better. That model is being replaced with newer ones(same shaving head but different handle) that cost like $12 more so the old one at this price is a good deal. As for blades get a sampler pack. Everybody's face is different and what I like you may not and vice a versa.

DE is short for double edged, the style of safety razor I recommended.

like this one

I really don't know why people are shitting on Amazon. I like supporting artisans and small companies as much as anyone else, but if OP wants to go with Amazon because it's cheaper (and it is cheaper), then let them do it.

To answer your question, the Edwin Jagger DE89bl is a great razor, Proraso Green is a great soap, and the Omega 48 is a good brush. You can also pick up all sorts of blades in bulk.

If you get the Astra blades, the kit is about $60 on Amazon and about $75 on a small site that is popular in this sub.

Let me just reiterate. I like artisans and small vendors, especially for the wider variety of scents and razors. There are better options for less at small vendors, but those are on items that only those vendors sell. for mass-produced products Amazon is often the cheaper option

I use a safety razor and I absolutely love it. It does have a little learning curve because I was used to pressing down hard on Venus razors since I rarely had a sharp, new blade on because they are so damn expensive. But seriously, the $30 razor and 0.50 refill blades are totally worth it in my opinion. Just let the weight of the razor glide across your skin and use a good shaving cream or gel. You can even use the kind they make for men that use safety razors.

I would avoid applying something like deodorant before pole dancing because that could affect your thigh grip. I will sometime moisturize with coconut oil after shaving but only a little and never on a pole day.

This is the razor I use and I like how it fits in my smallish hands. The price has gone up since I got mine but on Amazon it will fluctuate.

Any particular reason you want to order from amazon? Ordering from other vendors focused on wetshaving could give you a better deal...

Feedback on the items:

• Merkur razors are good, but DE89 is generally regarded around here as a better starting razor. Cheaper at Maggardrazors or West coast shaving. Or rather, any of the DE89/86/83/8x, since they're basically the same razor and head, just small differences in the handle. But I personally started out with a Merkur 34C, same head as the 180, just a shorter handle. So the 180 would probably work fine if you fancy it for some reason.
  
  
  
• Personally I understand that you want to stick to one blade while learning, but I'm not sure about the use of a sampler pack then. Generally advice is to start shaving and try each blade twice until you find one that suits you, and then stick with that brand during your "trial" period. While learning that is. Bulk blades are cheaply avaliable from ebay (trusted sellers with many sales is a recommendation) or Turkish Bestshave
  
  
  
• I really dislike Pure badger brushes and will always recommend Boar brushes or a better badger brush instead. I'd recommend something along these lines: Omega boar brush, or a good value badger brush, Frank Shaving, Ian Tang on ebay, Silvertip, Frank Shaving, Ian Tang on ebay, Finest, or any Whipped Dog Silvertip
  
  
• I personally find proraso to be a solid shaving soap/cream, but there's plenty of other good ones out there :).
  
  
• I also really like the proraso aftershave balm, good stuff.
  
  
• Sample pack, see the above comment.
  
  
• Some form of styptic pencil or alum block is a good idea. Haven't tried that brand though, but /u/Leisureguy (?) recommends it, which I'd say is enough for me to believe it's a good product (I think it's Leisureguy that recommends it, if I'm wrong I apologies)
  
  
• Glycerine soap works as a preshave, just as any other preshave oil/cream.
  
  You could also check out this recent comment I made about starting kit, probably applies here as well :).
  
  When it comes to shaving stuff /u/Leisureguy is a pretty solid guy who knows his stuff, if he says something is bad, you probably should trust him ;). Avoid that VDH stuff, there's better value alternatives out there. The sites I've linked is just examples, there's plenty of good sites out there and depending on where you're based, different retailers and deals might be better for you. If you wonder about anything in particular, just ask :).

Unless you want the scent of the Eton College shave cream, I would suggest getting the Avocado or Almond shave cream instead. Both were fantastic when I tried them and I think the avocado/almond oil gives the cream a bit more slip.

The majority opinion is that the Edwin Jagger DE89 razor is a better beginning razor however it is backordered on Amazon for 2-3 months so obviously if you want to get started now go with the Merkur. There is nothing wrong with the Merkur, I started with one, it is just the EJ is a more modern and refined design.

Some few people find that they have bad reactions to the MR GLO soap, probably to the lime oil. An alternate and the pre-shave soap I use is the Proraso glycerin soap (which is nothing like the menthol/eucalyptus shaving cream/balm from Proraso).

Also, look into a blade sampler rather than a 100-pack for a single brand.

Thank you!

I ended up with this, this and this. I also got a stand, a ceramic bowl, some different soaps, some Witch Hazel, and some Nivea Sensitive Skin After Shave. I'll be looking to pick up an Alum Block here shortly.

That's cheap.

I believe its the Edwin Jagger DE89BL - $34.34...

Below are my suggestions to get you looking around and thinking of options.

**
Awesome kit - Total: $148.00

Weber DLC razor with Bulldog handle - $70.00

OR

Weber ARC razor - $65.00

Vie-Long Zurito Horsehair Brush - $32.00

Garry's Sample Shop - $20.00 for various soaps, creams and aftershaves.

Blade Sampler - $26.00
**

Great kit - Total: $113.00

Edwin Jagger DE89 Razor - $35.00

Vie-Long Zurito Horsehair Brush - $32.00

Garry's Sample Shop - $20.00 for various soaps, creams and aftershaves.

Blade Sampler - $26.00
**

Decent kit - Total**: $89.00

Merkur 180 Razor - $32.00

Omega Pro 49 Boar Brush - $10.00

OR

Omega Pro 48 Boar Brush - $13.00

Garry's Sample Shop - $20.00 for various soaps, creams and aftershaves.

Blade Sampler - $26.00

Get a Edwin Jagger De89 it's a very nice medium DE and comes with good blades, a franks shaving brush I like this brush more than the Edwin Jagger 1ej946sds, a blade sampler pack every face and razor is different so what works well for one person in a razor may not work well for someone if you don't like it else change the blade, once you find a blade you like order in bulk , and [Proraso Shaving Cream ](http://www.amazon.com/Proraso-Shaving-Cream-5-2-147 /dp/B000RI8BZQ) this will last you for a while. Now come join us over at /r/wicked_edge/.

The Lord L6 is a cheap razor option.

If you have a bit more to spend you can consider an Edwin Jagger.

Absolument ! Je n'ai jamais retourné à l'arrière après avoir acheté ma Edwin Jagger et des lames Japonaises Feather! Quel bonheur !

Pour les curieux :
https://www.amazon.fr/Edwin-Jagger-De89bl-s%C3%A9curit%C3%A9-tranchant/dp/B003LW4L2W/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=Edwin+jagger&qid=1565133245&s=gateway&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.fr/Feather-Lames-Plates-Rasoir-S%C3%BBret%C3%A9/dp/B002YTRJ4K/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=lames+feather&qid=1565133276&s=gateway&sprefix=lames+feath&sr=8-3

Si vous êtes intéressé, je vous recommande d'essayer d'abord un pack d'échantillons de lames comme celui-ci :
https://www.amazon.fr/rasage-rasoirs-s%C3%A9curit%C3%A9-%C3%A9chantillon-20-lames/dp/B07GWXTMKQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=pack+lames+rasoir+securite&qid=1565133200&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Moi j'ai une barbe forte j'aime bien les lames Feather ou Shark, il faut essayer pour trouver quelle va mieux avec votre barbe et rasoir!

Meh, I use a safety razor
https://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-DE89bl-Chrome-Plated/dp/B003LW4L2W/ref=sr_1_24_s_it?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1469034745&sr=1-24&keywords=merkur+razor

I also have sensitive skin and found double edge safety razors to be fantastic. I've been using them for a few years now and I will never go back. After getting lots of burning and ingrowns in my pits, I found this article and decided to give it a go.

The razor I bought is an Edwin Jagger and I buy whatever blades I find in my local grocery store. I'm sure if I used higher rated blades, I'd get an even smoother shave but I'm lazy and these work fine.

Now I can shave my pits every day if I wanted to and I rarely get any ingrown hairs, burning or irritation. That was nearly unheard of before. As per my legs, my legs are still extremely sensitive so I use an electric shaver on them. There is a bit of a learning curve (especially for legs) but the article I linked above explains it well.

Also, it might be helpful for you to use something that lathers well so you can rely on that instead of whatever barrier the razor itself has. Good luck to you!

I think you'll find you hit a point of severe diminishing returns past the $25-30 price point. That seems to be the "sweet spot" for value, as you can get the unequivocally excellent Edwin Jagger DE89 (which by the way uses the same head as Muhle). For slightly less, you can get the pretty good Maggard MR5, which packs a solid stainless steel handle for $25.

Notwithstanding a slant razor, which isn't much more expensive, I think one of the above-mentioned razors will perform admirably for 99% of the population. Honestly the difference between a $30 EJ and a $70 Standard or Weber is probably so small that I'd recommend you take your savings and spend it on a nice soap and brush.

After realizing that I accidentally ordered 2 Merkurs I managed to cancel the order. Ended up getting this instead: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003LW4L2W/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ANJE66/ref=ox_ya_os_product

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003LW4L2W/ref=ox_ya_os_product

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G647Y8/ref=ox_ya_os_product

Do I need anything else? And what some good blades to buy on amazon?

Meh. I'm not a big fan of any of those items, at least not at the prices shown.

I've used the Lord L6, and it's decent, but I'd put it in the same class as the Sodial razor, which costs a lot less. Or pay a bit more and get an Edwin Jagger. Amazon is not your friend on this item, price-wise, but since you've got the gift certificate...

For a brush, a good boar is always better than a cheap badger. You can't go wrong with the classic Semogue. Or again, spend money (maybe more than you should but again, we're keeping it on Amazon) for a quality badger brush.

For the blade sampler, you want at least a few of each thing you're going to try. And you don't need every blade ever made. This sampler should have something that works for you.

After that, all you need is some cream or soap. TOBS shave cream and Proraso both get quite a bit of love.

If you really want a bowl, you can get one from the kitchen (or from Target, or from ...). As far as a styptic pencil, I'd recommend buying it from the local drugstore. They're so cheap that you're bound to get hosed on shipping and handling when you order by mail.

A buddy of mine shaves with the Mach3 (I know, I know... Friends don't let friends, etc.), and he has to use a pair of pliers to tear off the lubricating strips. Whatever chemical is in the strips gives his face a rash. He also uses shave gel in a can (I KNOW, I KNOW!), and one brand makes him break out while another doesn't cause any reactions. Also, multiblade cartride razors cause ingrown hairs for lots of people, which is a good reason for many to switch to a double edge (DE) safety razor.

I personally recommend that you switch to a DE razor (buy this on Amazon), and head over to Bath & Bodyworks for a tube of this. Sure, the initial investment will cost you around $40, but that tube will last you 6 months, and replacement blades are MUCH cheaper than cartridges. In a few months, you'll have recouped your investment, and your face may agree with the new routine. Either that, or go see a dermatologist and throw a shit ton more money at the problem.

I'd like to suggest an alternative list. I don't have a lot of experience with a ton of different safety razors, but I did have a cheapo safety razor I inherited from my grandpa (RIP), and after 3yrs I spent under $40 on an Edwin Jagger and the difference was staggering. I'm not one to suggest unloading a ton of money on anything, but I'd suggest your priorities are a bit skewed when you're spending less on your safety razor than you are on your alum block (which is hardly a necessity, comparatively. Some people don't even like them, although I do)...

Here's my alternative suggestion that adds up to roughly the same amount of upfront $$ (~$50 - 60), but sets your priorities toward getting a fantastic, albeit affordable safety razor that will last you your whole life:

Edwin Jagger ($40)
http://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-De89bl-Double-Safety/dp/B003LW4L2W/

There are others in this price range that are good as well. I can't speak to those, but I doubt anyone here will argue that the Edwin Jagger is not a top contender for its price point. It's very popular.

I'd hold off on buying blades today (unless you really want to) since the above safety razor comes with 5 which should get you buy for your first 20 shaves or so if you want them to.. but when you do, buying them 100x at a time for ~$10 seems to be the right price point (and it'll last you 5yrs if you're like me), unless you like fancy feather blades or something. I've never noticed a difference between vendors, but others have. YMMV. Here's what I have:
http://www.amazon.com/Derby-Extra-Double-Razor-Blades/dp/B004SGKMA0/

That brush seems like a good price point. over $10 but under $20 seems to be a good price point for a decent quality brush unless you know what you're looking for. Mine has lasted me 3yrs so far and has no visible signs of wear or hairs falling out. I'd expect it to last another 3 at the very least, but probably many more.

Alum block? Skip it if you want for the time being, but I'd get it if I were you since it's just $6. It's the same one I have and it does its job of closing up nicks very well.

Styptic pencil is like $1 (maybe $2) at CVS / Walgreens, IIRC, no need to get on amazon if you don't want. Definitely get one of these, just don't lose the damn thing. Sure beats little bits of toilet paper on your face for hours and hours.

You can also get a puck of William's shave soap at CVS for $2 link which will last you a long time. If you want to spend a few bucks extra on that Palmolive stuff because you know it'll be better for your individual skin, then go for it.

In short: Spend the money on the safety razor, which should last forever. Skimp on everything else, which will not last forever. That's my advice. I spent 3yrs shaving with a razor that I had no idea was as comparatively awful as a good one. I wish I had known better at the time, but unfortunately I did not, and had pretty shitty shaves and got lots of nasty cuts for 3yrs that could have been avoided.

True. During the week I use an Edwin Jagger DE89 razor. I use 2 blades a week, with each blade costing $.10. It gives a pretty good shave, better than a cartridge, but nothing too spectacular.

The biggest difference I found when switching from cartridge to safety was that my shaves weren't pulling on my whiskers like the would with my wold razor. Makes for a much more smooth and painless ordeal.

I'll include links but by all means shop around...

• Edwin Jagger DE89 - popular three piece starter razor
  
  
• One of the many creams by Taylor of Old Bond St. - inexpensive and quality
  
  
• An alum block like RazoRock - you can also find some of their artisan soaps
  
  
• A synthetic shaving brush - this one looks to have the same fibres (Plisson clone) as some other very good ones. You could also get a boar brush by Omega or Semogue for eg but these will have a break-in period. Do NOT get a badger brush on your budget; it will be shite. The exception might be this mixed loft Omega 11047 "mixed midget" which is a fantastic little brush; works out of the box like a badger but gets better over time like a boar.
  
  
• Go to your local drug store for Nivea Men Sensitive after shave balm - inexpensive, effective, and widely available.
  
  This is a more than decent starter kit and affordable but you'll also need skills. Check out this poster from /u/mmosh and search for tutorial vids on Youtube by Mantic59 and/or "Nick Shaves".
  
  EDIT: Completely left out blades. You want to sample many kinds to find what is right for you. Something like this.
  
  
  
  

Double edged razors are a great way to start. You could get a Lord L6 as your basic starter, or an Edwin Jagger DE 89. You can also get a Merkur.

Some nice kit suggestions on the sidebar -- do you have a specific budget?

I primarily use straights but I use a DE to shave my head; personally I like the Merkur 34C ($44 on Amazon). Edwin Jagger DE89 ($31 on Amazon) is another popular choice here.

Amazon and other shaving sites offer blade sampler packs. It's good to start out with one of those because all the blades are subtly different and people have various preferences for them.

Another part of your shaving routine to look at would be your lather and post-shave treatment. Most of us use a good soap or cream and build our lather with a shaving brush. After the shave you can use an astringent and follow that up with a scent if you'd like. I use plain witch hazel when I'm done shaving and then apply my aftershave.

I shave with a top of the line Edwin Jagger 89L that cost me something like $30 (& $10 for Badger brush and soap) due to the fact i have a dense wiry beard that goes in every direction that normal cartridge/disposable/electric shavers won't shift, especially on the neck area.

200 Derby blades (each giving 4 shaves on average), used every other day for $15 - gives me 5 years worth of blades!
All purchased from Amazon


Recently i forgot my shaving kit on a vacation trip, so I bought a cheapo Gilette double edged razor for $5, a tube of Ingram shaving Lather for $2.50 and a Boarbristle shaving brush for another $3) at a local drugstore.

I had an unopened pack of Derby blades in my washbag, so i used them with the Gilette.

The results were as good, if not better than the top of the range luxury DE blade kit.

So it's down to shaving technique and blade quality - the cheapo razor, lather and brush (lather whipped up in a wide cappuccino mug)


If you're really budget conscious, and don't like the plasticky feel of the Gillette razor, try the Egyptian made Lord LP 8122 for around $5-10. This is a great metal razor, comparable to the high-end european metal EJ/Merkur models. The finish may not be as perfect as the chromed EJ/Merkur models, but that's only cosmetic and won't affect the performance


Derby or Astra are excellent budget razor blades.
I'd recommend badgerhair brushes over boar-hair, as it feels a lot nicer and doesn't get bent out of shape. Still whips up and applies the lather just as well.

For an outlay of $30, you too could be shaving with no additional costs for 2 years or more, depending on your beard growth.
($5 Lord LP 8122 + $15 Derby blades + $2.50 tube shaving soap + $5 badger-hair brush + $2 cappuccino mug)

Razor: I started with this Merkur razor (and I'm still using it after two years). Edwin Jagger is probably equally popular, but I haven't tried them.

Brush/bowl: I was given this bowl/soap/brush/holder kit as a gift and still use it, but the brush broke after about a year (I could probably fix it with some good glue but haven't bothered yet. The holder is nice, but you might be able to find just a brush and bowl separately slightly cheaper if you're on a budget. I didn't use the soap in the kit because:

Soap: Proraso soap was suggested and I ended up liking it a lot. Some people like to buy sampler packs of soap/cream as well, but this was good enough for me, and it would take me forever to get through samples. This Proraso got me through 15 months with an average of one shave per week.

Blades: I started out with a sampler pack of blades from Maggard Razors, and Gillette Silver Blue and Gillette 7 O'Clock (both yellow and green were the same to me) ended up being the easiest on my face. I tried Feather, but they were way too harsh at first, I think because I hadn't really gotten the technique down yet. Gillette was more forgiving, but once I got better at shaving, I was able to use Feathers.

Other: Lastly, I really like using an alum stick after shaving to help close up pores/tiny nicks (weepers), but they're not necessary. I also now use Shave Secret as a first layer when I start my second pass (against the grain). Again, not necessary, but I think it helps me personally a little to have that extra layer of protection to prevent razor burn. It does gunk up your razor a little, though, so just be sure to keep it clean.

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I still only shave once a week, and I have a 3 day minimum in between shaves, otherwise I'll still get razor burn. Read up on some info in /r/wicked_edge. /u/Leisureguy has a ton of great comments in that sub. Sort his comment history by top, and you'll get plenty of good advice right off the bat. He also has a blog. My best tips: Make sure you use a shallow angle (as opposed to the perpendicular/90-degree shave you're used to with cartridge razors), and don't let your lather be too dry. Also, if your area has hard water, consider using distilled water to make your lather. Maggard Razors has been really great at shipping fast and having good prices for me and carries everything I mentioned, but there several reputable online shops. I know lots of people prefer to use Amazon, so I linked everything on Amazon except the blade sampler pack.

The LORD is a fine super-budget razor to start and get a feel for it, but keep that in mind as you use it. Before you make the judgement to not try a DE shave if it's not going well after you buy this kit, consider getting/trying a better quality razor.

I don't know your budget for this, but the recommended razor around here for beginners is usually the Edwin Jagger DE89.

Personally, I use the Merkur 180 Long Handled Safety Razor.

They are the same price at around $33 each.

Shows as available to me

Book - $11

Razor - $28

Brush - $7

Aftershave - $6

Soap - $7

Blades - $13 /100

Alum - $6

Box - $8


That is the setup OP has except a generally more popular aftershave scent, a different brush, and a block of alum that I find a little easier to use.

This is about $75 per person.

Edit: Personally I would probably go with /u/papander 's suggestion of Maggards. It is not what OP did, but Maggard's is a top notch retailer with really good product. For even less hassle just grab as many starter kits as you like, and add aftershave from walmart. You can't go wrong with any selection on the drop down lists as Maggards does not sell junk.

i just started a little while ago with a edwin jagger (http://www.amazon.ca/Edwin-Jagger-De89bl-Double-Safety/dp/B003LW4L2W). its been easy and great.

Hm...that is a little tougher. They last about a week for me, but i don't even really think about it since they're so cheap.

I use this website to order razor blades from the usa - http://www.westcoastshaving.com/Razor-Blades_c_7.html

I bought my razor from amazon edwin jager 89 (never have to replace) couple of years ago for about $30 - http://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-DE89bl-Chrome-Plated/dp/B003LW4L2W

Rasoio, ti consiglio un rasoio di sicurezza ( questo lo presi a 16 anni assieme al pacco da 100 di lamette ) durano un sacco, magari costa più di un usa e getta ma nel lungo andare risparmi davvero tanto, senza contare che dura di più e taglia meglio. Io il pacco di lamette l'ho finito qualche settimana fa, e mi é durato qualche anno (c'è da dire che non mi rado ogni giorno però)

The QShave - or other no-name brands - razors are notorious for their overall cheapness, and really ought to be avoided. Sure you can get one for $12, but what happens when the parts start to wear off, or the threads strip out? You're off to buy another razor again, so you might as well get something of higher quality ASAP. I have a funny feeling the QShave won't last forever.

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The DE89 is a decent beginner's razor, and it fairly affordable. The down side is the head is cast zinc and some people complain of the slick handle and the cap threads failing after a while. https://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-Double-Safety-Regular/dp/B003LW4L2W/ If you choose to get one, get a longer-handle one, as this works better when you are shaving behind your head.

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The Merkur 23C would probably be equivalent to the DE89. It also gets good reviews but some folks complain about the same sort of cap failure after some time. The price is about the same.

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The 34c & 37c are 2-piece razors, so these are easier to load but slightly more expensive. Again, they are cast zinc but they get good reviews. I would advise against the 34c and instead urge you to look into the 38c with the longer handle. They are the same otherwise. Both have knurling on the handle but there are some complaints that the handle is a bit slippery when wet.

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The Merkur 37c is a slant razor, and it tends to be on the aggressive side. https://www.amazon.com/MERKUR-Slant-MK-37C-Double-Safety/dp/B002CLDUZM/ Personally I would suggest you avoid these razors for head shaving; they are meant for rapid removal of tough whiskers on the face, and the skin on the head is a bit more delicate. If you must get one of these razors, I'd suggest instead the 39C "sledgehammer" with the longer handle.

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I started with the Vikings Blade Vulcan, a twist-to-open razor which gets decent reviews. https://www.amazon.com/VIKINGS-Vulcan-Safety-Swedish-Platinum/dp/B0746DLLH1/ (I'm selling it now on ebay along with other goodies because it has been supplanted by other shaving hardware.) But suffice it to say, the handle is well-knurled and it shaves nice. The Chieftain Jr. deserves honorable mention for being a mild razor at an affordable price. https://www.amazon.com/VIKINGS-BLADE-Chieftain-Double-Safety/dp/B07K25GR6K/

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Lastly, my current favorite for head shaves is the OneBlade: https://www.onebladeshave.com/ It shaves like a cartridge but you replace only the blade. Downside is price and the fact that there is only one type of blade to go in here.

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You should also consider the Leaf Razor. https://leafshave.com/ It is like the OneBlade but it takes regular DE blades snapped in half. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypMjFEgRpAQ Here's a man shaving his head with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw6v_rPd-HA Here's another gentleman doing the same. It also shaves like a cartridge but you can choose your blades to go in it. I like the product a lot but it didn't work well for me. Maybe I'll try it again later...

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Okay, that should do it! Any questions?

As another Canadian I find Amazon is the best source.
First I can tell you went to Shoppers where you got the brush and Proraso. 2nd don't buy the Body Shop stuff, its weird.
On Amazon Astra is the best bang for the buck on blades.
And for a Razor the Edwin Jagger De89bl is quite good.
Both of these are Prime eligible or free shipping on purchases over $25.

i'm actually pretty happy with the edwin jagger outside of this problem im having right now. But then again its my first one so I'm not sure how more/less aggressive would feel. The one I have right now is this one

http://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-DE89bl-Chrome-Plated/dp/B003LW4L2W

I'm looking for something in the $50 range. I can't find the weber you're talking about.

Cool upgraded to it. its actually cheaper than the Merker. But that's because amazon has a price cut on it, specially the non lined detail one.
M thinking the only difference in it and the lined one is the handle has lines and the other one does not right?

Stop using cartilages! I made the switch to DES razors (double edged safety razors) and will never go back.

I pay about $12 after shipping for 100 pack of Astra blades, and they last about as long as a single cartridge! Do yourself a favor and look into it. The Edwin Jagger 89bl (the one I use) is a great razor for around $27.

I have an Edwin Jagger DE89L and absolutely love it. Feather blades.

EDIT: Amazon link here

$9.83 per hundres, and a great shave.

https://www.amazon.com/Astra-Platinum-Double-Safety-Blades/dp/B001QY8QXM/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1469022496&sr=8-2&keywords=De+razors

But I am in love with feathers now, they are a bit more at $23.25 per hundred.

https://www.amazon.com/Feather-Razor-Blades-Hi-stainless-Double/dp/B004RWTQTS/ref=sr_1_14_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1469022496&sr=8-14&keywords=De+razors

This razor is $26.26:. https://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-DE89bl-Chrome-Plated/dp/B003LW4L2W/ref=sr_1_12_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1469022496&sr=8-12&keywords=De+razors

But the best part of it all, the most important part, is actually wet shaving. The above will save you money with an awesome shave, but actually wet shaving is best. Check out /r/wicked_edge.

Well there's a treasure trove of information about advice at /r/wickededge, but personally I use an Edwin Jaeger (either DE86 or DE89, I forget), with Feather blades (I recommend not to try them until you're experienced with the safety razor, they're ridiculously sharp) and Proraso soap with Proraso preshave. Amazon links:

http://amzn.com/B003LW4L2W - razor

http://amzn.com/B00AGG3MNU - blades

http://amzn.com/B001MF3FMW - soap

http://amzn.com/B000RIAD0W - preshave

You'll also need a badger hair brush - http://amzn.com/B00LDYFGFQ

This set up should last you a really long time, and it's not that expensive. Probably cheaper than a few months worth of crappy cartridges.

I actually had this wish list for the longest time. I decided to pull the trigger on it last month. I have never been more free from ingrown hairs/unsightly blemishes. Shaving is now a pleasurable experience, not a chore.

Proraso Shaving Soap 5.2 oz (147 g)

Barber Alum

Acca Kappa Cedar After Shave Splash

COSMETICALLY SEALED My Nik Is Sealed Styptic Pen 0.17 oz

125 BEST Blade Sampler FEATHER SHARK ASTRA BLUEBIRD NACET BIC LORD 7 O'Clock

Van Der Hagen Men's Luxury, Shave Set

Musgo Real Lime Glyce Soap

Edwin Jagger De89bl Double Edge Safety Razor Chrome Plated


Although Leisureguy's Handbook is not on the list, I just purchased it for a friend as a 30th birthday gift. I'm sure we'll add another user to the ranks by the end of the week.

I haven't had a chance to say thank you to all of the professionals out there in RedditLand. Thank you for your countless posts and invaluable guidance. You have changed my life in a small but significant way.

I also like it. Plus the clove scent is nice. It works really well for me with an EJ 89bl in addition to the Arko stick, which I use whipped up in a bowl.

Err, i'm no expert, i've only been using it for a couple of months but I use this, this and this. All cheap but not too cheap, and all do the job well, even to a dyspraxic like me who has trouble writing his own damn name, let alone shaving.

Fantastic Safety Razor

I bought one of these from Amazon as a starter safety. I've been impressed so far! I also highly recommend the Edwin Jagger shaving soap (also from Amazon).

That is a good price range for a starter kit, a quick google for a brick and mortar shop seems: Ganiveteria "Roca," at Placa del Pi, 3 in the Bairro Gotico if you want to handle the gear.

But Amazon is also your friend:

• Razor (27 Euro): Edwin Jagger DE86 (http://www.amazon.es/Edwin-Jagger-De89bl-Cuchilla-seguridad/dp/B003LW4L2W/ref=pd_sim_hp_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=18748G0MZD00T5J5DMF7)
  
• or Parker (25 Euro) (http://www.amazon.es/Shark-afeitador-maquinilla-cuchillas-cromadas/dp/B008IJTPCY/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1427273711&sr=8-12&keywords=parker+hoja)
  
• Blade sampler (7 Euro): http://www.amazon.es/Derby-Astra-Shark-Dorco-D-A-D-S-40-Recambios-maquinillas-unidades/dp/B008AIY0FK/ref=pd_bxgy_hp_text_y
  
• Brush (18 Euro) Semogue Modelo 1438 (http://www.amazon.es/Afeitar-Semogue-Excelsior-Europea-Shaving/dp/B00IQPAK38/ref=pd_sbs_hp_52?ie=UTF8&refRID=0N2K0P1WWABGBFN14YBS)
  
  And that leaves you 10 to 30 Euros for soap and whitch hazel/after shave (left that to personal preference/smell)

Eddwin Jagger d89 razor that I own
Feather popular

regarding your edit... Look for the edwin jagger DE8x.

There are other variants of this razor, but the only difference is the handle. Some have an ivory or black handle, some have a lined handle, ect.

I have the smooth chrome handle, and for what its worth, I have zero issues with it being too slippery.

So I ordered all the stuff you recommended, except for these different things:

Cream


Razor


Bowl


Again, thank you so much for your help in ordering these

What is use daily

Probably going to look into something a little better. I'd rather spend a bit more on the front end to have something that will last. I'm thinking the Edwin Jagger DE89 would be a good fit.

Avevo lo stesso problema, non riuscivo a farmi la barba spesso perché la pelle ci metteva giorni a recuperare.

Per prima cosa ho sostituito la schiuma da barba in bomboletta con un sapone da montare col pennello (i prodotti Proraso costano quanto un gel in bomboletta e durano molto di più, e un pennello in setola viene via per pochi euro). Già questo mi ha dato un miglioramento notevole, zero irritazioni e rasatura molto confortevole.

Il secondo step è provare un rasoio di sicurezza. Ce ne sono di tutti i tipi, quelli adatti ai principianti li trovi attorno ai venti euro (ad esempio questo Edwin Jagger è ritenuto da molti facile da usare ed efficace). Una confezione da cinque lamette può costare attorno a un euro e una lametta dura da 3 a 5 sbarbate.

Dai un'occhiata anche a /r/wicked_edge, ma prendilo con le molle perché l'utenza tende ad essere leggermente ossessionata.

Update: -

That 15 quid version is the short 74mm handle. (Overall length 83mm)

The standard 85 mm handle version remains at 26 quid. (Overall length 95mm)

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There is an even cheaper 12 quid version , but it has a plain handle, which may be slippery.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edwin-Jagger-De89bl-Chrome-Plated/dp/B003LW4L2W/ref=pd_sbs_121_2/259-6056722-2325640?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B003LW4L2W&pd_rd_r=25c4437d-deaa-462d-8dc8-b95895ddd942&pd_rd_w=N3gM2&pd_rd_wg=jjEEP&pf_rd_p=cc188cba-1892-42b3-956f-6c67d0ab7a00&pf_rd_r=50Y86N47BVNXDJEA22M1&psc=1&refRID=50Y86N47BVNXDJEA22M1

This morning? I woke up early, therefore I reached for the Dovo. I used the Standard for cleanup and the ATG pass (because my grain is weird like that, and I still worry about slicing open an artery with the Dovo despite using it for a year).

The Edwin Jagger DE89 is a good first razor, but mine is succumbing to metal fatigue pretty hard, particularly around the screw.

I like the Standard Razor, but it's going to be difficult to source. The manufacturer has been sold out for a while now. Bespoke Post may or may not have some in black.

But my first was a Merkur 23c. It was the typical starter razor of the day.

I also own a Merkur 39c (DO NOT GET THIS FOR YOUR FIRST RAZOR, THERE'S A REASON WE CALL IT THE SLEDGEHAMMER), two bakelite slants (for travel bag purposes, but you'll have a difficult time finding one now as they were NOS when we all bought them*), and an old, unidentified open comb Gillette that belonged to my grandfather.

*The Razorock Slant Stealth has a similar head, reverse engineered from the Bakelite slants. But again, slants are an advanced razor, so this shouldn't be your first.

Started with a £40 Double-Edge kit after trolling /r/wicked_edge for a while and haven't looked back since.

Had a couple of little nicks but have never even felt remotely concerned about slicing my face open! Really recommend it, now I have fun shaving! :D

http://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-De89bl-Double-Safety/dp/B003LW4L2W/ref=cm_lmf_tit_19 - What I'm using :)

You're welcome. The Omega line of boar brushes are pretty fantastic. Cheap badger brushes aren't worth it. If you're looking on Amazon, I would suggest the Omega 98 for $15.00 on Prime. Any of the Proraso soaps in the jars for $9-10 on Prime, http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Safety-Razor-Model-LP1822L/dp/B004N77JVY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417932223&sr=8-1&keywords=lord+l6 Also on Prime and uber cheap. Pretty much the same head as the DE89. For Blades, I would suggest the TryaBlade path and get him a sampler of well-known and popular blades. I can make you a good list if you want.

I'm not a fan of normal aftershave splashes because they're just alcohol and fragrance. I would rather use something on my face that's going to benefit with medical and health properties. I love witch hazel mixed with pure aloe. You can even add some essential oils to it to give it some fragrance.
For Pre-Shave Oil, you can literally just slather extra virgin olive oil on your face, or use Noxzema in the 12oz tub for pre-shave cream.

Believe me, I would rather study about traditional wetshaving than what I'm actually studying in college.

If you're confident that your Dad will stick to DE shaving and fall in love with it. I would suggest getting him the EJ DE89. They're insanely cheap on Amazon Prime right now.
http://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-DE89bl-Chrome-Plated/dp/B003LW4L2W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1417932514&sr=8-2&keywords=Edwin+Jagger+de89
The quality is way above that Lord with basically the same head. Same geometry, same aggressiveness(unbelievably mild).

• Edwin Jagger DE89
  
• Omega 10049
  
• Proraso Sensitive
  
  You pay a premium for certain things on Amazon, but those are good options. The price of blades is quite high on Amazon, so get a couple of packs of Astras (or a sampler pack) on Maggards before sampling a larger selection from tryablade.com.
  
  Maggards also has build-your-own DE starter kits which you may find to be better value. Also they sell excellent artisan soaps which are better quality than massed produced soap like Proraso, (and much nicer on the skin). Their own soap is very good quality and affordable.
  
  Brands to avoid on Amazon are Escali brushes and Van der Hagen.

A quick google search resulted in this.

Is this a good starter? Also, what kind of blades? I heard feather blades are really sharp, but not for the faint of heart.

You might consider switching to a safety razor. Cartridge razors don't work well with very thick hair.

Here is a pretty good place to start. Razor, brush, scuttle, cream

I personally use Feather blades, but you might consider a variety pack because blade preferences vary person to person.

It costs a bit of money up front, but your blades will only cost 25-35 cents afterwards, so if you are used to using a Mach 3, it will pay for itself in a couple years and will save you hundreds or thousands of dollars over a lifetime.

le rasoir et les lames!

I can't seem to find the Omega brush on Amazon. How about this Badger Hair one? It's also 1/2 the price. Any reason you suggested artificial rather than real?


How's this one for a beginner? Here.


Plus, some blades.


The beard is pretty normal, regular thickness, hair tends to curl when growing longer (hence the in-growns, I presume). This looks like a natural choice.


Finally, the pre-shave soap.


Could I get a final "OK" and I'll go ahead an order. Hoping to start finally enjoying shaving rather than just existing through inevitable experience every 2 days.

wow thanks for the speedy reply! i've seen a lot of your posts and i've got to say, you're probably one of the most helpful/underrated accounts on reddit. and i've checked your book out, and there's a very good chance that i'm going to be getting it!

so i think i'm going to go with the $65 kit to start off, and if i need upgrades it'll (progressively) be the razor, this [soap] (http://www.amazon.com/Proraso-Glycerin-Shave-Soap-Rasoio/dp/B001MF3FO0/ref=sr_1_6?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1323361007&sr=1-6), and maybe the brush.

does that seem like a pretty good way to get started?

edit: formatting

Edwin Jagger DE89- $32.50. You can also get handles with different colors wit this model.

Taylor of Old Bond Streetshaving soap- $20.18(I have this it is fantastic) and you can also get different scents and creams as opposed to a hard puck of soap, just search for Taylor of Old Bond Street on Amazon

Omega Pro 48 shaving brush $15.65 good boar bristle brush as recommended by Leisureguy.

Alum block- 9.59. This will help stop any bleeding and has mild antiseptic properties. You could also get a styptic pen for about $5 but they do more or less the same thing so it's probably overkill.

I also recommend Leisureguys book for $11.00, he's also on /r/wicked_edge but there is a lot of good information in here for beginning shavers.

I would recommend you get this Ogalla Bay Rum aftershave sampler for $20.00

and finally a blade sampler- $18.00. This will give him a variety of blades to try so he can decide which ones are right for him.

Total price- $131.09, if he takes care of the razor, brush, and bowl it can last him for life. Plus it will pay for itself in savings over time given the price difference between DE blade less than 0.99 cents apiece vs ~$20.00 for four or five regular cartridges. I can also put together a cheaper kit if you are not willing to spend this much.

Edwin Jaggers can be had on Amazon for very cheap in lots of styles. I've had a miles of great shaves out of this one: http://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-DE89bl-Chrome-Plated/dp/B003LW4L2W

Shaving the right way is always worth it.

Could I just try this: https://www.amazon.com/Edwin-Jagger-DE89bl-Chrome-Plated/dp/B003LW4L2W and still use my shaving cream?