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That's been the price on Amazon for some time. The price at BestBuy is just $1 more.

Costco has a much better deal ($299) for a 4-pack on a price per unit/puck basis, but it is members-only.

I came here to post this - glad you got it already!

You can preorder from the Google Store, Amazon 1 pack, 3 pack, Best Buy 1 pack, 3 pack, or Walmart.

They'll ship on December 6th.

Non-spam link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MAW2294

I went with google wifi. It was plug and play and immediately alleviated the annoyance around the numerous streaming services that rule my life.

My neighbor has the meshforce and is similarly pleased with it.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Wifi-system-set-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294

Google's mesh WiFi system is pretty legit, I just put one in because I have two floors and plaster walls. Check the Amazon reviews, it's a highly rated item on there. Good luck with your interwebs.

I think it creates a home mesh like google wifi, except you pay 29aed monthly per room/device to rent the hardware.

So thats 696aed~$189 for 2 years for one room, 2088aed~$569 for 3 rooms. Compare that to the cost of google wifi which is $117 for 1 or $259 for 3.

Looks like I may have found the answer. See below Q&A from Amazon.com. The answer was provided by someone designated as the "Manufacturer"

Question: Some of the pictures show a single cord going to the router. Does that mean it accepts power over ethernet, or are these wifi->wifi extenders?

Answer: Google Wifi is a "mesh" Wi-Fi system, they are not extenders for your existing router. The first Wifi point plugs into your modem with an Ethernet cord, and plugs in to power. Others plug in to regular power outlets in your home. They connect wirelessly to one another to create a single Wi-Fi network within your home. If you have Ethernet ports throughout your house, you can also hardwire each point. If you hardwire the units, you will still get a single Wi-Fi network throughout your house and the points will use Ethernet for connectivity between each other.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MAW2294/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1#Ask

Might try looking into wifi extenders or PoE access points (personally recommend Ubiquiti). There's also the Google WiFi system, which offers great performance at a cheaper price than Orbi.

On sale at Amazon in the US right now. Not sure if same price elsewhere.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Wifi-system-set-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294/ref=zg_bs_300189_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=3HCN0NB4NEMW9WZN6YR3

Noticed it is the best selling router on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Computer-Routers/zgbs/pc/300189

Pre-ordered ours and love them. Replaced out AirPort Extremes when the news came down that Apple was ending development.

"Why is Apple abandoning the AirPort Extreme, AirPort Express and AirPort Time Capsule?"

http://www.cio.com/article/3143606/consumer-electronics/why-is-apple-abandoning-the-airport-extreme-airport-express-and-airport-time-capsule.html

Last update was 7.7.8 late last year and guess that is it.

You can save an awful lot of money by not paying for your ISP to set up your Wifi. Buy your own Wifi router, configure it yourself, and only pay for Cox's internet.

Get your own Modem if you can, too.

For the modem, you might want to get something like this if you're paying for less than 300Mbp/s (and there is ZERO point in paying for more if you're only connecting wirelessly) or this if you're paying for gigabit and have hardwired ethernet devices.

For the router, if you're living in an apartment or small house where you only need one Wifi access point, something like this should work great, since it has an easy setup app available. If you're in a bigger space (e.g. multi-story or 3+ bedroom house), you might consider this or this, since both are designed for easy setup.

If you go with the 300Mbps plan from Cox, at $80 a month, even with the big space and $300 Mesh Wifi routers, you'd be saving money after six months. It's even faster if you only need a smaller space or are willing to drop to a slower internet speed (I seriously doubt you'll notice anything faster than 100Mbps, which is $60/mo, and if it's just 1-2 and you don't watch Netflix at 4k, even 30Mbps at $40/mo is likely sufficient). Likely, you'll still have to call Cox and complain to them every 12 months or so to get the "promotional" pricing... threaten to quit every time they try to raise your prices and the like.

Setting it all up will involve telling Cox you're putting in the new equipment, and returning the old equipment. I suggest doing this all in-store. If you call, they're likely to insist on a "professional installation" which gets crazy expensive, especially since they don't really need to go to your place to do anything... they just need to flip a switch on their backend (in the Cox offices) to accept the MAC address of your new modem instead of the old one... and if you already own your own modem, they don't even need to do that much (since you wouldn't need to switch it out).

Setting up your own Wifi isn't complicated. Plenty of tutorials all over Google if you need them. Cox charging to install wifi and modems is a scam based entirely on people not realizing how easy it can be.

Source: Being a Senior-Level Computer Networking Professional.

(Now, a Lady like me could do it cheaper / better than what I suggest here, but it would require a bit more expertise)

What's the best wifi repeater out there?

I read about Google Wifi Mesh, but not sure if there are others that definitely better and cheaper?

Look into investing in your own modem and mesh wifi if you rent from your provider.

If it's xfinity you use, the Arris Surfboard will be compatible. Take a look at Google WiFi for your mesh wifi network. They also sell them in packs of 4 at Costco, sometimes on sale.

> In other words, is 2 routers possible?

Actually what you want to do is run cables to key points (your TV, your office, etc) and then set up a WiFi mesh network.

For best performance each mesh point should be connected by cable back to the main mesh point (which also functions as a router) but they will also talk to each other over WiFi if necessary.

For consumer use Google's mesh system is generally considered to be the best. Each Google mesh point has two gigabit ethernet ports so you're going to need a basic switch by the main mesh point to connect everything together.

Note: Don't mistake mesh for using WiFi extenders. Extenders suck ass compared to mesh. Mesh is transparent to your devices and makes it seem like your entire home is covered by one single network, much like with cellular systems. WiFi extenders create separate networks within your house and can cause all sorts of problems as your device tries to figure out which extender to connect to. It's a mess. Mesh is awesome.

This TP-Link was rater "Best router for most people." It will handle your internet speeds, is dual band, and has some of the best range and features in its price range. It's a pretty standard recommendation on r/homenetworking too.

You could also go for a mesh system like Google Wifi. It's a little more expensive, but its designed to be very simple and work for large areas, like multiple floors. Depends on your budget though.

I dont know a ton about powerline adapter setups like others have mentioned... But what is a new thing is WiFi Systems, where you have multiple access points that go through the same network. I have the Google Wifi 3 point mesh system on sale at amason there are two Ethernet ports on each box, except for the one that will be in use to connect to your modem. So the potential to hardwire in multiple rooms. And it's been very reliable wifi performance

ESS is an extended service set. It is built into the 802.11 WiFi standard. Basically it allows you to connect more than one router wirelessly and use the same SSID. Then clients would seamlessly associate with whichever access point had the stronger signal. The extender won't make the problem worse but it has to be setup properly. If an extender is on the same channel as your main wifi it will make things worse, as long as you use non overlapping channels (1,6,or 11 for 2.4ghz) and only have a 10-15% overlap of signal it works perfectly.

I worded my response confusingly since I was in a rush. You can take almost any old router and turn it into a repeater via the firmware. So I was suggesting rather than going out and buying a new equipment he can re purpose an old router and extend the signal to the problem area of his house without the time or expense of running wires across the house. A wired connection would be superior but it is also a lot more time consuming to physically run a wire, especially if going through walls. From my experience routers tend to work much better...repeaters and devices that are only access points in the consumer space tend to be poor quality and lack any customization.

All that being said I was basing my answer on what will work for the least amount of money. If you don't have an old router you can re purpose then your choices are power line, buying a repeater/extender, or if money is less of an object then get this google mesh solution and your wireless can be scaled to cover wherever you want.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Wifi-system-set-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498103371&sr=8-1&keywords=wireless+mesh

Is your new house bigger? Might not have as good wifi coverage.

For a whole home coverage check into eero, orbi or even looks like google has just made a system as well https://www.amazon.com/Google-Wifi-system-set-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294/ref=pd_sim_147_24?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01MAW2294&pd_rd_r=15Q8VCB0MY4KTBRGMFD0&pd_rd_w=YQXJH&pd_rd_wg=nA2eq&psc=1&refRID=15Q8VCB0MY4KTBRGMFD0

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Wifi-system-set-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524984253&sr=1-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&dpPl=1&dpID=31rlzhTFq4L&ref=plSrch

Something like this might work for yea?
Few of these systems out there and people seem to love em.

I’m not going to downvote you. But you should get a dual band router since he is in a populated city. Multi hundred dollar routers are not worth it for a single router. It’s not going to be any better than a cheap single router.

Buy this:
NETGEAR Cable Modem CM500 - Compatible with all Cable Providers including Xfinity by Comcast, Spectrum, Cox | For Cable Plans Up to 300 Mbps | DOCSIS 3.0 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XH46MWW/

Return the original one and stop paying the rental fee.

Buy this:
TP-Link AC1750 Smart WiFi Router - Dual Band Gigabit Wireless Internet Router (Archer A7) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079JD7F7G/

If house is big, you have poor WiFi in part of your house, buy this instead of TPLink router:
Google WiFi system, 3-Pack - Router replacement for whole home coverage (NLS-1304-25) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MAW2294/

I used to have a lot of trouble. Then I got a Google Mesh and put one of the wifi extenders 5 feet from the Peloton. Haven't had a problem since.

Here's a link if you're interested.

My ISP is Spectrum cable and my router is this.

We have Verizon Fios (Frontier now) 150mbs up and down. We upgraded to that router and it worked better but we still had issues.

What fixed it totally was getting the google wifi we went from 70 to 80 down to right on 150. Vue has worked perfectly since then no pauses or skips.

Parents have vue and use the Amazon fire tv and were have issues with skips and pauses. Got them Google wifi haven't had a issue since.

I highly recommend getting it. You can buy it in a three pack or individually. Easy setup.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MAW2294/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501870496&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=google+wifi&psc=1

what is the current Combo you have? If you purchased one of the low priced combos (C3000, C3700, you will see problem as they are really good for large houses)

dont spend money for warranty.

Always prefer separates. reasons below:
http://pickmymodem.com/cable-modem-wi-fi-modem-router-combo-one-buy/

for modems, pretty much SB6183 or CM600 are fine. if you prefer Arris, go for 6183.
http://amzn.to/2q0wYG6 - 6183
http://amzn.to/2qtNyxZ - CM600


for Routers, few options:

1. AC1900 R7000. this is a good choice but I understand you dont like Netgear
   http://amzn.to/2q0ykk0
   
   
   
2. Archer C9. This is another decent but not that great. I would rather buy R7000 than this one.
   http://amzn.to/2pzu4q4
   
   
3. Have you thought about google or Orbi Mesh systems? it gives pretty good performance.
   
   http://amzn.to/2q0NUMq - Orbi (this is from Netgear and you may not prefer it but this gives hell of WIFI performance)
   
   http://amzn.to/2pzsyUW - google mesh
   
   
   
4. How about Modem + EdgeRouterLite + Ubiquiti APs. This is complex setup and bit expensive
   
   http://amzn.to/2pzBgTe - Edgerouter lite
   http://amzn.to/2pJHsIG - ubiquiti AP
   
   
   Let me know if you have other questions.

This is something that might be of help. Wi-Fi extender routers. They also come in single versions that you can add more to.


Edit: to add to this. I have shitty wifi router modem combo and I was tired of not being able to sit out side with my rig on the back porch for when I wanted to smoke and relax with a game. So I purchased these with the intent to wire these so I had 100% connection like I would wired to the modem. However once I got these I decided to try and use them just on the wifi as it's supposed to be able to bounce signal to strengthen the wifi around the whole house (it's called a mesh network). So after getting it set up I tested the wifi connection. Now before the setup wired I get 125 down and 40 up. On the old wifi network out side I got 10 down and 5 up. Now with the new mesh network not wired up I get 120 to 125 down and 30 to 40 up and that's out side with out the access points being wired other than having to wire the power. Funny enough they have wan ports on them so I use one of the 3 as a wifi card basically lol. Good luck with what you do but this helped me and I never had to go the extra step to wire the access points. Wifi has come a long way.

I've a spare Google Wifi system (set of 3) (Brand new), coming in from USA, for sale.

It would be the ideal equipment for your relative's wifi issues. Hit me up in the PM if you are interested.

Network extenders are not good, especially the kind that connect via power-line Ethernet. Best bet is to get a wireless access point that bridges to the router, or better yet, whole-home wifi like Google Wifi:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MAW2294/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_i1KUDbMRVJFMM

Here are your options for home wifi networking:

1. Buy a super strong wifi router and you're good to go even in a large home - as long as you don't live in a repurposed bomb shelter. An example of a "super strong" router: here
   
2. Buy a normal router or your current one and add access points. An example of a "normal" router: here . An access point (AP) is not a wifi extender. You must run a cable (CAT 5E/ CAT 6) from your router to the location where you need improved wifi signal, there you plug in the AP and attach the Ethernet cable from the router. The AP simply turns a wired connection into a wireless one and broadcasts the same network as that coming from your router. An example of an AP: here .
   
3. Buy a normal router or your current router and use a wifi extender(s). I wifi extender receives packets from your wireless router, ups the signal strength, and then forwards them to a nearby host. If you are having poor signal at point B and the router is at point A then put the extender directly in the middle of the 2; I have seen so many people make the mistake of putting the extender at point B, which defeats the whole purpose because it is just your host device's antenna vs the extender's.
   
4. An extender/AP all in one device. An example: here
   
5. A mesh wifi system. It can be difficult to distinguish a multi-AP/ multi-extender setup from a mesh system, but the main differences are that the mesh will be easier to setup and more "polished" in general. A mesh system will automatically detect the SSID (network name) from the wifi router and extend it. Want to add a signal booster? With mesh you can buy another matching unit and use WPS for a one button setup. The mesh is also smart in identifying when you move from one area to another ans switching to the closer device to server you your packets. Now, this is seen in some higher end APs and extenders such as here , but its not as seamless and usually more expensive in the long run. An example of a mesh system: here
   
   APs are generally more stable (UBIQUITI makes great ones) due to the wired connection. I like using APs because I can buy as I need more and set some up on different VLANs and hide SSIDs, but those are more advanced options. For most people who do not want to run cable or go with more of a permanent networking setup, the easiest and most effective solution is generally a mesh system. The TP-Link one is great as well as Google WiFi.
   
   EDITED: Because the bot thought I was using affiliate links...

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Wifi-system-set-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294

Wireless isn't guaranteed by any provider.

As others have mentioned, hardwire ethernet and test with a device that has a gigabit ethernet port using a cat 5e or cat 6 cable. (Cat 5 is limited to 100m).

Wireless is subject to so much interference you have no idea.

Try connecting to the "5G" connection, and you'll get the speed in the room - and even then you'll probably cap out at 130m.

That's just how wifi works.

You could invest in a mesh router setup however.

Get one of these bad boys:

https://www.amazon.com/Google-WiFi-system-3-Pack-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294

I bought an Orbi in March and it's been great!

I too have a 5 room flat and my bedroom is right on the other side of the house, farthest away from the fibre line in.

I personally wouldn't recommend Google Wifi as it's exactly the same as just having 3 repeaters around the house; no dedicated radio for the nodes to speak to each other so the speed is cut in half.

Could it really be the Google WiFi causing the issue? Right now the way I have it setup is this

Coax from wall -> ARRIS Surfboard -> Google WiFi -> Netgear unmanaged switch -> PC

All devices on the network lag, including those hardwired. I tried swapping out one of my nodes from the living room to my room where the modem is and the problem persists, so it's not a hardware issue with Google router. What do you mean by mesh box solution? Here's what I have

This is the mesh network I'm using. I regret not buying it much sooner.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-WiFi-system-3-Pack-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=google+wifi&qid=1556858369&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.costco.com/Google-Wifi-Whole-Home-Mesh-Wifi-System,-4-pack.product.100406436.html

Google Wifi Mesh and Netgear ethernet switch. I don’t have ethernet wires running across the ceiling/walls.

I hide my Wifi Hub and Switch under/behind the sofa.

Google Wifi
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MAW2294/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QWJ0Cb5K821NW

Netgear Ethernet Switch
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HGLVZLY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ZYJ0CbF7D1Y4B

Cat 7
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076FNS3NZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2XJ0Cb8JA7EAW

You can even do it on a budget by buying some old AC router and installing Tomato USB on it and turning it into a wireless ethernet bridge.

It has been decided that we can not run a cable so now the options are the mesh system and it appears there are some good options out there. Can you please help choose which model would best to go with for longevity of product, security if possible, and reliability?

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Looks like the Netgear Orbi RBK50 is on sale around $90 off, but only has two points?

LINK for Ultra Performance Orbi RBK50 (2 points) - would 2 points be enough?

LINK for NetGear Orbi RBK33 (3 points)

Deco M4 3-Pack

Deco M5 3-Pack

Google WiFi system, 3-Pack

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Budget is to $300 and under.

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So my Cox cable modem is also a router so I presume I would plug the main router into the modem router, disable the Cox network and only use the new network routing system? Or what would be the best configuration here?

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( I like the idea of having a guest network and putting any unsecure or unsure devices on the guest network, i would presume the guest network has same speed as the primary network right? )

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Thanks for your guys helps so far! Definitely appreciate it :)

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EDIT: Also want to make sure it works well with iOS devices since that will be the majority of devices connected.

Buy a Google WiFi system

try a mesh system like Google Wifi

If this is your house and not a rental, I would highly suggest buying a 1000' box of cable and wiring the place up. Otherwise, get yourself a mesh Wi-Fi setup for your router/wireless coverage, and get at least 2 nodes to cover all 3 floors. If you get two units, put one on the lowest level and one on the highest, or of upi buy a 3 pack put one on each floor on opposite sides of the house. So the one in the lowest floor would be at the front of the house, middle floor would be towards the back of the house, top floor would be at the front of the house again. As far as what modem to get just check the carrier approved modem list and buy whatever's cheap that has good reviews on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Google-WiFi-system-3-Pack-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294

You can plug an ethernet cable into the extender

Put one on each floor

just get a mesh network like Google Wifi https://www.amazon.com/Google-WiFi-system-3-Pack-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294

We replaced our aging Apple base stations with Google Mesh:

https://smile.amazon.com/Google-Wifi-system-set-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294/ref=smi_www_rco2_go_smi_g3499214142?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0&ie=UTF8

The setup is almost as or just as easy as Apple's and they have been working like champs.

cwl

Thanks for replying. To be more specific, here is what I see on amazon:

1. $346 3 pk Amplifi HD: https://www.amazon.com/AmpliFi-High-Density-Home-Wi-Fi-System/dp/B01L9O08PW
   
2. $299 3 pk Google Wifi: https://www.amazon.com/Google-Wifi-system-set-replacement/dp/B01MAW2294
   
3. $299 3 pk Luma: https://www.amazon.com/Luma-Whole-Home-WiFi-System/dp/B017DV1BPG
   
4. $499 3 pk Linksys Velop: https://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Tri-band-AC6600-System-WHW0303/dp/B01N2NLNEH
   
5. $179 3 pk Plume: https://www.plumewifi.com/store
   
   I'm sure there are more in the pipeline.
   
   Orbi is only a 2 pk for $379, so that is not competitive, and has that horrible Netgear UI, so Eero has that beat hands down. I guess Linksys can afford to be so uncompetitive since they have a broad base of products. I've rebooted a Linksys router enough times to not want to trust them at any price point.
   
   Eero 3 pk is currently $454. Even with that discount from $499 MSRP, I'm not sure how well that competes with much of the above.
   
   I do appreciate the company support input here and on the community page on the website, so that is worth something. If you are using Netgear components, thank God you aren't using their UI. Still, I am very concerned about these eeros turning into very expensive bricks if the company cannot sell these at a competitive price point and goes south. Will they still work if there is no cloud?
   
   Most people will buy a Honda over a Lexus due to price, and luxury manufacturers have to sell to a different segment by differentiating themselves with perhaps better performance, service, or emotional appeal in a clear manner, where luxury buyers understand why they are paying more. I'm not sure how buyers will make such a connection between price and quality when the reviews are all generally comparable. There are a lot of reviews where people try one product and find another performs satisfactorily, so I can't see a consensus opinion that the Eero outperforms everyone else. Personally, I would like to have a better idea why these components are superior to the competition, but for the sake of the company, it probably needs to do a better job explaining that to the masses if they are going to use a luxury pricing model. Or is it just over-engineered for the task at hand? After all, we will all be looking to replace these in a few short years in the face of newer, better WiFi protocols. I don't need a 20 year router, but if you told me this better build quality results in fewer reboots than the cheaper competition, that would be worth something too.

I'd get the three pack to start with. See how the wifi coverage is, it should be more than enough to cover everything. Just make sure the main router that connects to the bridged FIOS router/modem is centrally located. During the setup WiFi will run tests and make sure the mesh points have a good connection back to the main router and if not suggest moving them around.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MAW2294/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500405280&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=google+wifi&psc=1

Currently using Google WiFi, got the 3 puck pack for $250 on amazon, currently $260

i don't know charter well, but if you can replace your router. google wifi changed my life. main unit where your old router is, then spread out the other two pucks as needed. as someone else stated halfway down the stairs works. but that is a pricey change.google wifi 3 pack (amazon) $255

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