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Found 7 comments on Hitler's Army: Soldiers, Nazis, and War in the Third Reich (Oxford Paperbacks):

u/eternalkerri · 50 pointsr/AskHistorians

It's hard to pin down exactly and by what standard you want to judge "Nazi Ideology".

Were most German soldiers patriotic and nationalistic. Most certainly yes. In Hitler's Army, the author makes strong arguments, using everything from rank and file soldiers diaries to communications between high levels of the Wehrmacht, that the average German believed in the rightness of their cause. That being the restoration of German pride, revenge for Versailles, defense against perceived threats to their way of life (Bolshevism), and defense of their homeland. As the war dragged on, defeatism, anti-Nazi sentiment, and war exhaustion did increase exponentially to where it was openly spoken of, at least by German civilians, their disdain for the Nazi's and Adolph Hitler.

In Ordinary Men, the author zeroes in on a particular police unit in Poland that actively participated in the Ethnic Cleansing of Poland of not only Jews, but Slavs, Poles, and other undesirables. While the book paints a largely dismal picture, showing that many went with the "following orders" principle, it was mixed, but definitely was a majority who participated in the Holocaust and Racist actions.

However, there are constant stories being cited, of German regular army, the Wehrmacht not dealing well with being tasked with taking on Holocaust related actions. There were reports of absenteeism, alcoholism, suicides, and even an occasional refusal of a direct order when these actions had to take place. While clearly these units did participate, it was not a mass action, but the large majority did participate. With what thoughts on their mind we can't say for sure across the board, but we do know that Nazi German soldiers overwhelmingly participated in these acts.

So on the whole, if you want to tie Nazism to the larger ideology of German Nationalism, then yes, the average soldier gladly followed the Nazi lead in this. While ascribing to their racist ideology and activities that related to the Holocaust, the numbers were smaller, but still a significant majority.

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u/LefordMurphy · 9 pointsr/HistoryPorn

While we have no idea what this guy in particular thought, most correspondence and diaries found on the bodies of German soldiers showed that the ordinary men of the wehrmacht tended to strongly endorse nazism, and to really believe that they were members of a master race fighting subhumans.

Hitler's ideology was very popular among the rank and file of the german army, hence why the orders to massacre so many soviet civilians were carried out.

Omer Bartov's work "Hitler's army" really does a good job laying this out.
http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Army-Soldiers-Oxford-Paperbacks/dp/0195079035

u/Lionel-Richie · 7 pointsr/CompanyOfHeroes

From primary and secondary sources, lol. It's not a fallacy. We have diaries and documents from German soldiers on the eastern front.

Edit: Here, I'll link a good book on the subject.

u/WARFTW · 3 pointsr/books

Part II:

For Stalingrad/Leningrad:

STALINGRAD: How the Red Army Survived the German Onslaught

Leningrad: State of Siege

Enemy at the Gates: The Battle for Stalingrad

To the Gates of Stalingrad: Soviet-German Combat Operations, April-August 1942

Armageddon in Stalingrad: September-November 1942

Stopped at Stalingrad: The Luftwaffe and Hitler's Defeat in the East, 1942-1943

The 900 Days: The Siege Of Leningrad

Kursk:

The Battle of Kursk

Demolishing the Myth: The Tank Battle at Prokhorovka, Kursk, July 1943: An Operational Narrative


Air War:

Barbarossa: The Air Battle July-December 1941

Stalingrad: The Air Battle: 1942-January 1943

Kursk: The Air Battle, July 1943

Bagration to Berlin: The Final Air Battles in the East 1944-1945

Black Cross/Red Star : Vol. 1, Operation Barbarossa 1941

Black Cross / Red Star: The Air War Over The Eastern Front, Vol. 2 - Resurgence: January - June 1942

Black Cross Red Star: The Air War Over the Eastern Front Volume 3


German Army:

War of Extermination: The German Military in World War II

Hitler's Army: Soldiers, Nazis, and War in the Third Reich

The Myth of the Eastern Front: The Nazi-Soviet War in American Popular Culture

The Wehrmacht: History, Myth, Reality

The Unknown Eastern Front: The Wehrmacht and Hitler's Foreign Soldiers

Death of the Wehrmacht: The German Campaigns of 1942

The Wehrmacht Retreats: Fighting a Lost War, 1943

Partisans:

Defiance

Stalin's Guerrillas: Soviet Partisans in World War II

Holocaust/Genocide:

Harvest of Despair: Life and Death in Ukraine under Nazi Rule

Nazi Empire-Building and the Holocaust in Ukraine

Erased: Vanishing Traces of Jewish Galicia in Present-Day Ukraine

The Shoah in Ukraine: History, Testimony, Memorialization

The Holocaust in the Soviet Union

u/NateTheGreat26 · 1 pointr/worldnews

Have you read Hitler's Army? I assume if you haven't already then you would really like it. It's an in-depth analysis of the Ostheer and reasons why it devolved into such a brutal and barbaric army. But yes, I understand your point. I've learned enough to know that the Ostfront was a huge mess and is probably pretty exceptional in any case.

u/chewbacca81 · 1 pointr/OldSchoolCool

Here, required reading in Modern Military History.