Reddit mentions of Imbeciles: The Supreme Court, American Eugenics, and the Sterilization of Carrie Buck

I recently finished Ibram Kendi's Stamped from the Beginning, which I recommend both as an excellent book in general, and because towards the end he addresses topics like racial intelligence, and even addresses the controversy around the book The Bell Curve. He's great, and contains a few footnotes that you can follow, one of which is in my Amazon wishlist, Race Unmasked by Michael Yudell. Currently reading Adam Cohen's Imbeciles, which talks about the eugenics movement in America, which is obviously related, although it's more focused on the legal logistics rather than the science and ideology (so far!). Sitting on the shelf is James Whitman's Hitler's American Model, which I'm looking forward to.

For a more fun and accessible take on the topic, ContraPoints is wonderful.

Disclaimer: I do not normally condone the presence of Learns^TM in this sub, but this seemed like a special case. We now return to our previously scheduled programming of philosophy memes.

Ok, for one, most of psychology has been debunked. This guy touches on it https://www.ted.com/talks/ben_ambridge_10_myths_about_psychology_debunked

Ink blots are bogus, behavioral psychology can not accurately predict much other than the extremely obvious. Gayness was once considered a mental disorder even though now they've found gay genes. And much of Freud was wrong about everything and up until neuroscience, psychology has been more of an art than science. When you look back at history, you see people making an initial down payment on a behavior they find to be separate and run with it until you have whole books written on initial false assumptions. Kind of like if you believe in the afterlife, that leads to believing in God and that leads to believing much of the bible and that leads to extreme irrational beliefs. A snow ball of falseness with just one initial belief.

And then there is the documented history of racists, homophones, and sexist psychologists. In this book, they show just how strange and barbaric the beliefs of most of psychology was, not only as it was study but as a practice. https://www.amazon.com/Imbeciles-Supreme-American-Eugenics-Sterilization/dp/0143109995

In fact, you find the most racist "rats" in the science of psychology, because psychological findings are so easy to manipulate, unlike chemical reactions or physics, there is more room for eugenics and supremacist to fudge numbers or be extremely bias in their findings.

https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Cattell_Controversy.html?id=Ry48mQEACAAJ

Talks about one of the most influential psychologists that turned out to be a pseudoscience eugenicists.

https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/catalog/65rwe7dm9780252074639.html

He talks about the Pioneer fund, that happens to of funded Murray for the Bell Curve, and that is the guy that Sam had on.

Only recently has psychology been refined to the point that it produces some legit studies of significance, that can be replicated and of value, but if you look closer at the not so distant past, it was pretty much a breeding ground for racist elites. Murray is just continuing the tradition. OR that is at least the counter argument at the moment. I am open to Murray being correct, but I will not swallow this bitter pill, as easily as Sam. Now you can see that this is not at all like simple Climate change deniers of science. This is challengers to a very questionable book.

sure!

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