Reddit mentions of Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini Heavy Duty Bicycle U Lock Bike Lock

Yup, see: Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit lock, the thing costs $100 and the opening is like 6" x 3.5".

But if you live in NYC, no matter what kind of lock you use, if you leave a nice bike locked up outside overnight, there's a 50% chance it won't be there the next day.

Im going to agree with everyone else. Get a U-lock. I When I first got my Trek 7.3 in 2008 I the bike cost me $600, I got a lock that cost me $95 because I was using it as a commuter and I was in New York. I am of the mind that the cost of your locks should be able 10% of the cost of you bike. This works out well because the locks will last just about forever. The look that I bought 6 years ago is still in use, it was a heavy duty chain lock and I leave it locked in the gargae at my job so I dont have to carry it with me everyday.
I recently bought a new bike and I got the New York fahgettaboudit it lock, it a small ulock that isnt heavy but provides good locking.

I dont know where you live, but your bike looks new enough, especially being chainless, to catch some eyes and not just people who will give you complaints.
http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367721175&sr=8-1&keywords=new+york+fahgettaboudit+mini

The Evolution mini U from Krypto just aren't that strong. I've seen people leverage them off, once with a hockey stick and once with a piece of rebar. They're really meant as a delaying action for messengers that aren't leaving their bike unsupervised for 8+ hours.

The one I specified is a big, burly bastard of a lock. Som'bitch weighs like 5 pounds. 18mm diameter hasp, forget leveraging it off, pain in the ass to cut through with a torch or grinder and too big to get bolt cutters on. Hasp is too small to get a scissor jack into. Simply too thick to leverage. Double-roll tumbler lock with negative pinning so you can't bump it. Boron Steel that's doped with cutting-wheel fouling polymers. Independent locking bars on the hasps so you need to make two cuts to get it through.

It can be cut, but you're going to need a acetylene rig or a lot of time with a serious battery powered angle grinder to get through it. If anything, it's just a big, TPB style "Fuck Off" to people looking opportunistically. Nothing is going to save you from a complex attack if you're one of those idiots that locks up your $4,500 carbon frame outside overnight.

If you're locking someplace as visible as the MF Station for extended periods of time with a bike that has a value over $1,500, I recommend both the Chain and ULock versions of this line at the same time, as that necessitates two sets of tools for each job. Run that U through the rear triangle and wheel, the chain through the front wheel and main portion of the frame.

I've got Kryptonite 997986 Black 18mm New York Fahgettaboudit U-Lock http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396797497&sr=8-1&keywords=new+york+lock+kryptonite ( I bought it for $72 )

Tougher steel, thicker, stubby, and locks on both sides of the U. Because it locks on both sides the thief would need to cut the lock twice.
The lock still can be cut with a battery powered angle grinder, but it will take longer.

All u-locks are not equal. Cheaper u-locks can be cut with bolt cutters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYUf4h0Lv_8

If you like your bike, bring it inside. Locking your bike up outside is pretty much asking for it to get stolen.

I lent a friend a tri bike, told him very specifically to keep it inside. what does he do? locks it up out side and it gets stolen. That was $1000 down the drain.

Also, learn how to lock a bike properly and get a decent lock.

nice. do you know about pitlocks? i run pitlocks on both wheels and seatpost clamp with an NY "Fahgettaboutit" Mini-U. imo, all locks are deterrents at best, but i feel reasonably secure with this setup in high theft areas as long as i don't leave it overnight.

the old chain wrapped in inner tube is a good on-the-cheap option too, gives you that NYC swag also, ha.

edit: pitlocks aren't advisable for a fixed rear wheel, but still could be an option for the front imo.

Here are some deals I've seen and when they come up or shut down. (All times are Pacific)


USB Rechargable Bike Tail Light on sale at 3:45

Foam Rollers go on sale at 4

Kryptonite 18mm New York Fahgettaboudit U-Lock, Black Goes on sale at 3

Revolights bicycle lighting system Midnight

Womens Pearl Izumi Shorts

Pearl Izumi Jerseys 4:00

Different pearl izumi bibs

Pearl Izumi shorts 5:45

Pearl Izumi bibs as shown below 4:45

Canari womens shorts

Brooks saddles bicycle bar tap 2:45

Yakima DoubleDown 4-Bike Hitch Mount Rack 4:45

Very compact sleeping bag 4:30

Compact first aid kit 3:00

Kryptonite Evolution Mini-5 Bicycle Ulock 3:35

headlamp 5:30

Polar Heart Rate Monitor 3:30

LED Strobe Lights 2:30

Youphoria Sport Towel ends at 3:15ish



Sram Bar Tape ends at 2:50
Kryptonite NY Standard on sale 6:50

A 2,500 dollar bike is a bit much, but if you really want to bring an expensive bike on campus, get a nice U-Lock!

This is the best one I've ever used. I have a pretty nice bike, and somebody tried to cut through this lock to get to it once. They only got through the few mm thick outer rubber layer, and then gave up. It's a bitch to cut through this thing.

I have a kryptonite fagetaboutit mini for the primary and employ two folding locks on the front a rear to cover the wheels. Usually a multiple lock approach means that many more cuts and will make your bike that much more unattractive to pilfer.
Stay away from any cable solution, they are worthless.

Here's what I do for my Bullitt: One Kryptonite Fuhgeddaboudit (small as you can get), and a set of Pinhead lock set (locking skewers for wheels and locking seat post collar). A slim Tile under the cargo deck sealed with 3M Heavy Duty Packing tape.


With the pinhead lock set, you only need to lock the frame with the Fuhgeddaboudit U-lock (typically I lock at one of the lateral vertical braces parallel to the head tube, or if I have the big cargo box for the kids on the front, will lock around one of the rear seat stays).

Kryptonite Lock: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OZ9VLU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Pinhead lock set: https://smile.amazon.com/Pinhead-Bicycle-Locking-Skewer-Pack/dp/B000XHBKOU/ref=sr_1_6?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1525893173&sr=1-6&keywords=pinhead+lock

New York Fahgettaboudit, This is the bike lock I use, its expensive but its pretty much the only lock you'll ever need. Just the look of it alone is enough to make robbers look the other way.

Glad to hear you still have your bike. I highly recommend this as a replacement.

The thing is bomb-proof. Honestly one of the things that's really nice about the NY lock is how recognizable it is. If I were a bike thief, I wouldn't even go near a bike that has one of those on it. Even if a thief doesn't get your bike, the process of attempting to steal it has the potential to do damage, so anything that functions as a deterrent is a definite bonus.

Let's be real here....locks are only deterrents for honest people. If someone wants your bike, they'll find a way...


But to OP...if you want to make it a damn tough job to get your bike, invest in one of these...

http://smile.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1413005358&sr=8-3&keywords=kryptonite+new+york

Your lock is only as strong as the weakest link so don't skimp on anything else if you're going to get this..I've held it in person it is pretty heavy...I'd say a good 4 or 5 pounds even though Amazon says 1...it's definitely not only a pound. But there's no way you're going to cut that off with boltcutters, you'd need an angle grinder. Keep that in mind if you're going to get it.

It's worth noting here that all kryptonite locks are not made equal. this $75 mini is going to be far more secure.

I went all out and got the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit:

http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B000OZ9VLU

This lock is small, but JUST the right size to lock your bike, with no room for anything to get in to pry it. It's a very solid lock.

Naiveté.

Moved from a suburb (where I could have left the bike unlocked in the back of a truck for 2 hours without a worry in the world) to a city for work. Brought the Giant Escape 2 my Dad had given to me, but only had a cheap cable lock and hadn't been given access to my work's bike cage yet.

3rd day of training, my start group and I were headed to happy hour. I walked outside and the bike was gone from the rack outside the office.

I was able to look at the security footage; some dude literally walked up, cut the lock discreetly, and walked away like it was his.

Filed a police report, and went to happy hour. Then I bought the Escape 3 and a Kryptonite U-lock and didn't bring the bike to work until I had bike cage access.

In that case, nothing less than this:

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Fahgettaboutit-Bicycle-U-Lock-6-Inch/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1304026133&sr=1-3

If it's a really nice bike people -will- strip the parts off it, in five minutes with some hex keys your shifters, rear derailleur, etc can be gone. In a Shimano component world I wouldn't lock any new model bike with better than Deore (MTB) or 105 (Road) components in public. For SRAM, not better than X7...

Look into the Kryptonite Evo Mini or Fahgettaboutit mini U-locks. They're about as small and light as they come without compromising security or getting a lock designed for a chain.

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Fahgettaboutit-Bicycle-U-Lock-6-Inch/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1311793787&sr=8-2

good questions. this mini u-lock combined with a cable [to secure front wheel, too] is what is now used by most who are serious about securing their ride.

and these two rack designs are typically preferred in the u.s.:

new york city rack - nyc is making this their "city approved" rack after a thorough design contest. bikes can lean against it to be stable; can lock the front, rear, and frame easily; and it looks very clean from a design standpoint

typical "u" tube: these are found a lot and function very similar to the nyc rack. aesthetically they're not as nice but a lot cheaper and good function. you can see how the yellow bike can secure both wheels and the frame.

btw - what country?

As someone who has gotten a bike stolen I cannot recommend this u-lock strong enough. I have a pretty expensive road bike, and using two of these has keep me safe ALL this semester. HIGHLY recommend. The only con is that these u locks are heavy--they're built like bricks though. Don't skimp out on the locks--you'll regret it. Also, remember to lock your wheel and frame to the bike stand, and to lock your back wheel to the frame. Sometimes they'll simply take your wheel so don't risk it!

This is a nice mini u lock

There is nothing cheap or shitty about this lock and even the less intense locks are pretty damn solid and could easily be compared to locks twice their price.

This morning my Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit U-Lock that secures my motorcycle decided to not unlock. The key enters the lock cylinder smoothly, and turns very lightly (too lightly?).

Pics of the setup

YT video of attempt to unlock

Any ideas? This is the heaviest U-lock I could find (18 mm hardened shackle). I'm at a loss for how to defeat it short of an angle grinder and I fear it'll just eat grinding wheels.

I've emailed Kryptonite after reading their support site but don't expect a response. It appears that this is a fairly common occurrence after Googling around.

Anyone stolen their own bike before and have ideas of how to liberate mine?

Not all uLocks are created equal. You should definitely make sure to be using one that is highly rated.

For exmaple, the New York Fahgettaboudit U-Lock

That's why I have one of these guys.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000OZ9VLU/

Yeah, even better together. Though I see a slightly different combo used by the truly maniacal riders:

http://www.mec.ca/product/4013-597/samui-air-zound-cycling-horn/

and

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/

I use these for front and rear lights.

This is the most common u-lock that is about as good as it gets. I use this, but the weight is pretty intense.

May I suggest: http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Fahgettaboutit-Bicycle-U-Lock-6-Inch/dp/B000OZ9VLU/

I have two bikes, one I bought from Century Cycles, and another I got off craigslist for super cheap. The one from craigslist is my favorite, and there were a ton more on there that I loved. The one I got on craigslist goes for around $700 brand new, but I got it from the guy for I think around $280ish.

I also live in an apartment, and I bought one of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UUEF7E/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 holds both bikes just fine, and they are both large sizes (for someone around my height - 6' 2")

EDIT: also get yourself a nice bike lock: http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_4?s=cycling&ie=UTF8&qid=1374593601&sr=1-4&keywords=bike+lock

I use this heavy ass lock. A hacksaw can still cut through it, but it takes more time.

I also use a cable to secure my quick-release front wheel.

There's no sure way to secure your bike, all you can do is use good locking stratagy. Lock it to something solid in a well lit place where people are more likely to notice a theif holding a saw or bolt cutters.

I wouldn't get a brooks. They are pricey because they become super comfortable after some use, but the downside is that they are theft magnets. If you get one, lock your saddle with a cable, or take it in with you, but these things go missing on my campus all the time. I'd just ride the stock for a while, when you want to upgrade, go into your LBS and nab one from them.




As for locks, U-lock+Cable in conjunction will be best. If you pick one, do a u-lock. Kryptonite is well-recommended. They have a few models:

The New York is the big boy, nigh indestructible lock. But probably not necessary for a windsor the hour.

Here's what I use, but I sort of regret it. It feels cheaper (because it was cheaper) than other kryptonite locks I've used. The lock itself is fine, but I have trouble with my key after a few months of use (have to jiggle it around for a bit for it to disengage). If you're on a campus or in a smaller town, it'd be fine.

Just ordered this. My buddy has one and it's brilliant. Super light and small (smallness is actually a benefit as far as security). Can fit in your back pocket.

Also: http://sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html

I'd recommend 2 locks. That way a thief has to have a way to beat both.

I have the New York Fahgettaboudit Mini u-lock and abus granit steel-o-flex.

For when my bike is at home I have this bastard. I'm aware it's overkill (10kg for chain and lock) the links are as big as my hand...

https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock-Black/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481948659&sr=8-1&keywords=kryptonite+new+york+u+lock

Can only be broke for the hacksaw in a very long time or an angle grinder. We could save it leaves never have angle grinders, but really only professionals do. And they are you really going after cheap bikes.

Hijacking for visibility.

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I had a bike that was 8 years old and in perfect condition. After a bad biking accident, I had stored it away for several years. It held a lot of memories of times that I had spent with my father; we rode bikes together almost every day for years before my parents divorced.

I finally got it back out, thinking riding to and from campus would be a great way to ease back into cycling. I got a cable lock and parked it in a patrolled deck. I rode it 3 times to campus, and on the 3rd time, it was stolen. I was totally, completely heartbroken. The cops who were supposed to be patrolling the deck were all huddled up BSing with each other. One came to take a report from me. He scoffed at me when I told him I had a cable lock, not a U-lock and told me I'd never see my bike again.

It's a shitty lesson, and it still bums me out pretty fucking badly that someone stole something so special to me. I know it was my own fault for not securing my bike properly, but I didn't realize how rampant bike theft is, especially in the city.

So, I feel your pain. It sucks to have something stolen and I'm sorry that you had to experience this. I immediately went out and bought this lock and am looking into some other locks for my wheels and seat.

If your landlord agrees to you storing your bike inside, I'd recommend this for storage. It's a real space saver in an apartment.

Good luck!

Locally The Bike Shop has them for $119.99 (Bow Cycle also has them for $129.99)

Amazon.ca has them for $100.95 (I have Amazon Prime so 2 day shipping is free for me, I don't know what it would be normally)

You're welcome! They send you a bright blue non-removable sticker to put on your bike, identifying it as registered with the police. Could be an additional deterrent, who knows.

Locking: Sturdy U-Lock (like the New York Fahgettaboudit) through the frame & rack, sturdy cable lock (I have this one) through the wheels and secured to your U-lock. Locks are still only a deterrent, but that and locking in a highly visible location could be enough. At least, I've had luck with it. Knocks on wood

that is a little better than using a giant u-lock but i'd hate to ride all over town with a giant chain. ideally a smaller u lock for normal use, and then carry a chain for when you think you might have issues locking it up or leave that somewhere you will be locking it frequently. the onguard beast chain seems to be the go to and comes with a lock as well, and as far as i know the kryponite NYFU is still the best lock on the market though it is expensive.

honestly just get as good of a u-lock you can afford if you have reasonable access to bike racks, or get the chain setup if you are wrapping around posts or trees. anything is defeatable, your best bet is to make yours harder than someone else's lock and hope for the best.
http://forums.roadbikereview.com/commuting-touring-ride-reports/boltcutter-proof-locks-276407.html
http://www.lfgss.com/thread17938.html

Maybe call the local police station and describe your situation to them and see if they can help? Or find a local hardware store and buy the tools to get your bike back. OR, buy a higher end bike lock. After having my bike stolen I got a Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit (2 years ago) and use it everyday in all sorts of weather conditions, it hasn't given me any problems yet. I think carrying bolt cutters is a little overkill, but I haven't done much bike touring, so really don't know.

Kryptonite locks. The prices on Amazon are cheaper but $134 is the price you would pay in a bike shop.

The chain...maybe.

> Hexagon shaped, triple heat treated chain withstands 11 tons of cutting force.

That's a meaningless description without knowing the alloy and link diameter, but it looks fairly beefy in the picture.

The weak point is the small U-lock that it also uses. It's 1/2" (12-13mm), which is the same as regular Bike U-locks. At that point I'd rather have the one designed for bikes, is significantly lighter, and can be frame mounted easily.

The only potential upside I see is "security through obscurity". It may be different enough from other bike locks that thieves skip it because they don't know how to attack it quickly.

The absolute best thing you can do is just get renter's insurance. Mine is $10 a month and covers everything I own, including my bike.

You can also upgrade to the "New York" Strength Kryptonite lock, which is far stronger, at the cost of being massive and hard to carry. Just ignore the Kryptonite warranty, it's pretty useless. It costs quite a bit for a low level of coverage and requires sending back the broken lock which usually gets taken with the bike.

I'm looking into getting this lock. I've read that I should get those mini u-locks instead because there's less leverage a thief can use on it, but I also heard that they're sometimes too small to lock up onto things, so what do you think? I'l also probably get a dual cable lock from kryptonite also or maybe their new york chain.

Get two Ulocks and Bike thieves will avoid your bike most 9/10 times unless they are really desperate. I'd recommend this Kryptonite: link.

I have that exact bike. It's a great entry level road bike! Done around 2,500km on it and it's still going strong. I've used it as a commuter with some security quick release skewers (so your wheels don't get stolen easily) and a Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini (possibly the strongest U-lock you can buy, other Kryptonite locks are worth a look too though, for less money).

I have this rack for it. As long you're physically able to climb the hill then the bike will. ;-)

Damn. What maintenance crew has something laying around that cuts through hardened steel? I haven't commuted in a week or two (been sick :( ), I'll check mine after work and make sure it is still there.

edit: also good advice since he's going to be leaving it on campus. i'm sure they deal with abandoned bikes etc quite a bit and may have cutters. It really sucks carrying a heavy u-lock (mine is 5 lbs)

FYI you can pick those Ulocks with a pen....may I recommend this one if you really want to keep your bike

Edit: Some of those old U-locks

He will never see his bike again. Pays to have renters insurance and register his bike at his local precent.

How about you do him a favor and buy him a real lock to prevent this from happening in the future.

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Fahgettaboutit-Bicycle-U-Lock-6-Inch/dp/B000OZ9VLU/

Less practical:
http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-Chain-Lock/dp/B000LPEXBQ/

I feel for you. I'm sorry your bike got stolen. It's likely to not be returned. By some chance it is it will probably not be a condition you want it.

next time get this bike lock: https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock-Black/dp/B000OZ9VLU%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAJEZV5MZO7MGYMFKA%26tag%3Dbikesmrts-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB000OZ9VLU and put it through the frame, front or back wheel and of course whatever you are locking it to. Worse case you might lose a seat if you don't take that with you and your other tire but at that point people would just move on. It being a high school though I would expect the seat to be slashed because kids are mean people.

Get the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit U Lock.
It's pricey but reliable.

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU

or Cycle Inn in Tallaght sell them.

The insurance can kind of be a scam if you read the details of it, but if you get a lock like:
http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU

It's very unlikely someone would cut it. It would likely take 5-6 minutes with an angle grinder....

Buy one of these, http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Fahgettaboutit-Bicycle-U-Lock-6-Inch/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1259975922&sr=8-8

Go to a pro engraver and have them engrave your name and number underneath the frame.

Get some spraypaint and make it look crazy and unique.

Don't park your bike outside and overnight anywhere.

Don't be stupid.

Buy a nice quality U-lock, the price of the u-lock depends on the area you live.

In NYC where bike theft is very high, you need need need this lock Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit 18mm U-Lock

Here are some good videos about how to lock up your bikes:

Hal Ruzal Grades Your Bike Locking (1 of 3)

Hal Ruzal Grades Your Bike Locking (2 of 3)

Hal Ruzal Grades Your Bike Locking (3 of 3)

Hal Grades Your Bike Locking 2014 (Part IV)

Edit: added additional videos.

Heavy duty expensive lock, very hard to cut through. It can be found cheaper on Ebay I paid $73

Spend money on a real lock, no cheapo $30 MEC shit. I use a Kryptonite U-Lock and a thick chain. Nobody is getting through this without some serious hardware. It's fucking heavy, but it's worth it.

Just as with any security, the point isn't to make it impossible to steal, it's to make it not worth stealing. If you have a good U-Lock, it's not worth it to try to steal the bike, especially if it's next to some guy with a lesser lock.

Same. Most days I lock up with a Kryptonite Evo Mini. If I need more security, I use a Kryptonite Fahgettaboutit Mini.

High price:

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Fahgettaboutit-Bicycle-U-Lock-6-Inch/dp/B000OZ9VLU

Lower price:

http://www.amazon.com/OnGuard-Brute-Steel-U-Lock-Mini/dp/B002SR3JMO/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1343875756&sr=1-1&keywords=onguard+brute+mini

The Kryptonite is very possibly #1-2 highest rated U-lock, the other highest rated would more than likely be even more expensive in the US so I wouldn't bother posting it.

The OnGuard is similar to the krytonite but not quite as hardcore.

Have similar e-bike. Only lock that will hold it:
https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-Heavy-Bicycle/dp/B000OZ9VLU/

all that was very helpful, thank you. And that's sad that people are even stealing a wheel. Wouldn't have expected that so thanks for the heads up as well. Is this lock over kill?

I'm going to assume Philadelphia is a lot like NYC ( where I live) when it comes to bike theft, so I will give you the same advice I give people that move here. Get a Kryptonite u lock. This one is the absolute cheapest that you can go with, but you'd be mush safer going with this. Lock thought the front wheel and frame. I would suggest getting at least a cable lock for the back wheel. Anything quick release will be stolen unless locked down. Best to replace anything that is quick release. No locking method is 100%. Whatever lock you have, there is a tool that can break it. The only thing you can do is not make it worth the effort. So don't go locking up a super nice bike. Lock it whenever you're out of arms length. If someone jumps on it and goes, you'll never catch it.

Try twisting my New York Fahgettaboudit mini-U you'll destroy the bike in the attempt.

It depends on the u-lock. This one would be trouble for bolt cutters:

https://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock-Black/dp/B000OZ9VLU

That said, no lock will stop an angle grinder ☹

Here's a great article:

http://thesweethome.com/reviews/best-bike-lock/

Not the cheap ones. This would be my go to. The only way through is with an angle grinder, if you're using that to get a bike I'm sure it'll raise some questions with any passersby.

Just remember that the best lock is one that looks better than the one next to it - it's a deterrent first and foremost (though the fuhgeddaboudit lock has a good track record).
And of course, if you can, try to keep your bike indoors or in a lockup if you're not on it!

If you know of any cycling clubs (or are already a member) you'll be able to get insurance cheaper through them usually. Ask your LBS - they'll know the ins and outs.

Pob lwc!

Just get the New York fahgettaboutit lock (should work for Boston!). They tested it by locking a bike up for 30 days and nights in one of the worst parts of New York City...the bike was eventually stripped all the way down but thieves were unable to cut through the lock and steal the frame. So tell thieves, "forget about it" (fahgettaboutit) with this lock, http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU

My concern was how you'd transport it because bike racks often have issues with fat tires and non standard wheelbases. It could be a problem if you take the bus or catch a ride with a friend. It bugs me because it means my hitch can only be used for my fat tire ebike, or for cargo, not both. If I had built my ebike around a conventional mtb, then I could use this thing. The two bikes you're looking at also look incompatible with most racks that attach to a hatch. If you're always riding, then it's not a problem.

From watching the lockinglawyer and bosnianbill, I'd go with a ulock like the Uguard Brute or Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit. Their advantage is a shackle thicker than bolt cutters can handle right now. Get insurance though. There's no 100% foolproof way to stop thieves, so prepare yourself so the impact of a theft can be dealt with when it happens. I keep seeing https://velosurance.com/ pop up when it comes to ebike insurance. You might have renters insurance or something like that, but chances are they are against insuring motorized vehicles, which includes ebikes.

When my bikes have been stolen the U-lock was cut with good bolt cutters. I have had them stolen from the university in the middle of the day even (granted in summer when there's less traffic). But they came and stole my and everyone elses bikes, there was a line of chains and locks on the ground.

Either you get a bike only worth 100$ and get a 25$ lock and accept it will get stolen at some point. Or if you have a 500$ bike you need to get something like:

https://www.amazon.ca/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU


Honestly my last bike that was stolen, the back tire was dented, the brakes were shot, and honestly the lock I had was worth more than the bike was when it got taken.

Definitely get some sort of U-lock and preferably don't have quick release skewers on your wheels. Personally I use this lock, but you don't have to spend that much. One thing to note about U-locks is that smaller is better because it makes it harder to use leverage to pop the thing open.

The Fahgettaboudit U-Lock is pretty damn good. You can't use a scissor jack because it's too small and it would take forever to saw it off. It can be removed, but not without considerable effort and time.

This one http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Fahgettaboutit-Bicycle-U-Lock-6-Inch/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1309913318&sr=1-1

I didnt know exactly how they spelled it, I was writing the comment from my phone at the time.

Agree with this. I'd recommend two U-locks, Kryptonite, at least Evolution line but preferably one of them NY Fahgettaboutit. That'll cost you over $100 right there.

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Evolution-Mini-Bike-U-Lock/dp/B000AMPRG0/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1372566802&sr=8-9&keywords=kryptonite+fahgettaboudit

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372566802&sr=8-1&keywords=kryptonite+fahgettaboudit

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-NEW-YORK-FAHGETTABOUDIT-FahgettaBoudit/dp/B00629P4M2/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1372566802&sr=8-8&keywords=kryptonite+fahgettaboudit

I've heard this one in particular is pretty fantastic.

I'm having a hard time deciding between the Evolution Mini and the New York Fahgettaboutit Mini (need to carry the lock in my backpack on my way to classes)...

Thoughts?

I was considering this one like you mentioned, but the bike has front and rear quick wheel connects. I want to prevent someone from stealing the rear wheel+hub motor for example without needing 2 locks (like you have).

I use the Kryptonite Fahgettaboutit through my front wheel and frame, then loop this cable into itself through my saddle and back wheel and lock the end up in the U-Lock.

~$70 for a bigger piece of mind.

If weight is not an issue, you should get the Kryptonite New York Lock. I have it and have never had an issue with it. It's pretty much as secure as you'll get with a bike lock, without resorting to incredibly huge, heavy, unwieldy solutions. I live in Philly too, which has a ton of bike theft.

This looks to be even thicker and more secure, but I can't tell from the picture how large it actually is.

For the most security, the lock should be small, but big enough to put through the frame and back wheel, while still having room to accommodate the front wheel (which you should take off and lock with the back wheel and frame, provided it's a quick-release wheel- if it's not a quick release, then get one of the cables or an extra, tiny u-lock to lock the front wheel to the frame).

Take some time to look up the most secure ways to lock a bike. It doesn't matter how long you've been riding for- if you're unfamiliar with how to securely lock up a bike, having a better lock won't mean much. How you lock it up, where you lock it up, and what you lock it to are all important considerations.

And just know that there's no perfect solution. If somebody comes along with an angle-grinder, your bike is getting stolen no matter how many locks you have on it. Exercise good judgement in how long you keep it locked up in one place (as in, don't just leave it out overnight in a high-theft area if you can avoid it). And even having a great lock won't prevent somebody from taking your seat, handlebars, headlight, reflectors, fender/mud guard, water bottle, or anything else that might be on your bike but not chained down.

> I probably won't buy a bike until I have the spare cash to get a nice one

Bike theft (and parts stripping) is a huge problem. "nice" bikes are at greater risk too.

As a bare minimum figure on a solid thick "U-lock" about $100 and a full set of antitheft skewers/seatpost/headset bolts for about $80.

Also, why is this lock so cheap?

This is the lock that I have and it's considered the most robust. It's quite heavy though.

It depends how far you're willing to go. I have a beater bike I ride to run errands that I've designed to be unappealing to thieves.

-Fixed gear (high gearing)

-Frame wrapped in Skittles duct tape

-Pink handlebars

-Rainbow colored chain

-Rips in saddle

-Kyptonite Fuhgettaboutit New York U-Lock

All the components are as cheap as possible. 99% of the time I lock it next to a nicer bike that has a crappier lock.

I forgot that there were different models of "new york" kryptonite locks. The one I was referring to is this one (just a U-lock, no chain):

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-997986-Black-Fahgettaboudit-U-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1407610363&sr=8-2&keywords=kryptonite+u+lock+new+york

It's kind of small which is a downside but the upside is that its really hard for anyone to get themselves in any sort of position to get a really good angle on it with bolt cutters. In that video the guy demonstrated with the chain lying flat on the ground, which is of course a lot easier to cut like that. I have my doubts that he'd be able to do that with the u-lock above when it is locked securely to a bike frame. Not to mention that the lock above is 18mm thick, not sure how thick the chain was that was cut in the video.