Reddit mentions of NavePoint Adjustable Rack Mount Server Shelf Shelves Rail Rails 1U

Servers:

• 2 x Dell PowerEdge R710 (One running ESXI the other Proxmox)
  
• FreeNAS running in the bottom case.
  
  Networking:
  
• Cisco WS-C3560G-48PS-E 48-Port 10/100/1000 PoE 3560 Switch
  
• PfSense running in a barbones box I picked up on Amazon. (https://www.amazon.com/Firewall-Appliance-Gigabit-Celeron-Barebone/dp/B0741F634J/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1522374130&sr=1-14&keywords=pfsense+firewall)
  
  FreeNAS Server Case:
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091IZ1ZG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  Rack:
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZWJPHG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  Rackmount Power:
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00077INZU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  Extras:
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008X3JIVS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002D1GG0C/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0060RUVBA/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001E1Y5O6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  

Super cool, I'll be there soon myself.

Quick question, wooden shelf on rails? What wizard must I quest for to obtain this sort of thing? Is it basically a 19" wide board screwed into spare rails? Or maybe something a bit higher tech like https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA

Unless you're planning to add a metric ton of stuff into that rack, I would humbly suggest you get thee some Rail Shelves at least for the ESXi server; if it's supporting the HP, it deserves to have some more support than the rack ears it comes with.

Note they do eat a fraction of a rack unit because they're bumping up the server, but you can do 3 or 4 and still be down less than a single RU.

Sorry, it's a really nice setup and very cleanly set up, but the lack of backside support is making my skin crawl for some reason. :)

Here are some "Rack Essentials"

Shelfs/Rails:
https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1510637469&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=1u+rack+rails&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Navepoint-Fixed-Vented-Server-Adjustable/dp/B01A6JQYDG/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1510637496&sr=8-6&keywords=1u+rack+shelf+sliding

https://www.amazon.com/Navepoint-Sliding-Vented-Server-Adjustable/dp/B01A6JQPFI/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1510637508&sr=8-8&keywords=1u+rack+shelf+sliding





Drawers:
https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Server-Cabinet-Locking-Lockable/dp/B009WS7TSW/ref=sr_1_4?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1510637549&sr=1-4&keywords=1u+rack+drawer


Fans:
https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-CLOUDPLATE-Airflow-cooling/dp/B00ZQPDB7I/ref=sr_1_5?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1510637586&sr=1-5&keywords=rack+fan


Switched PDU
https://www.amazon.com/Eliminator-E107-Control-Center-S-Switch/dp/B000GASJF2/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1510637607&sr=1-1&keywords=individual+switch+pdu

Maybe you will find some of that stuff useful...

I just mounted a L4000 in my middle Atlantic rack. My rack is enclosed MRK-4426.

I used these rails and they worked great with no modifications. Just had to make sure the mounting brackets were bent correctly to make sure the case slides in and out smoothly.

If you had threaded round post like I do the M4 screws fit through the 10-32 holes so I didn’t even have to drill out the mounting holes.

The case shouldn’t be a problem in the rear. If you can slide it through the front post the rear post should be fine.

Worst case you can use something like this. I didn’t want to go this route because I wanted the cool sliding feature and using this kind of mount may take away 1U since it’ll raise it a little bit. I used a set of APC rails first and I didn’t like the way it sat, so I ordered the sliding rails instead.

Let me know if there’s anything you need to know. Whether it be measurements or whatever.

The rosewill rails are hard to come by, its easier to just use these:

http://smile.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1458500710&sr=8-3&keywords=adjustable+server+rails

They like to prevent stuff from perfectly fitting in the 1U beneath them (they stick down 1-2mm into the 1U below them), so if your rack is packed, they may not fit.

Something generic like This should work? Not as pretty but $50 less.

I think it depends on whether OP needs all 12U of that rack, or is willing to trade some density for lower cost.

"Generic rails" tend to be more like 0U shelves. I bought some of these and I like them, but there is a density cost. The piece that holds the server from beneath is thicker than the clearance between most 1U or 2U servers, so if you have two of these right next each other, the upper one will have to be fudged up to leave room for the server below. Because of standard rack hole spacing, you can only do this 1-2 times before you have to leave a blank space above. That works fine for me, but needs vary.

AFAICT, all rack-mount server models have different means of securing to their intended rails, not to mention side-to-side spacing. I don't think there's a way to make a set of generic rails that supports only from the side instead of supporting from below.

What he said: heavy stuff up top makes it easier to tip over.

Generally, if they are only 12-18ish inches deep and don't come with rails, then they're fine with being on two posts.

If you are still uncomfortable for whatever reason feel free to buy some 4-post shelves.

Even 2-post shelves are usually rated for 50#, some for 100#.

Edit:To secure the Yamaha receivers, I might consider unscrewing the feet and drilling some holes in a rack shelf or rails to bolt into the same. This way everything can be secure if you have to move the rack around.

Edit 2: Lastly, and I'm sure you know this, some of these receivers call for 30cm of space above for proper ventilation: they're not designed for rack mount. So I would mount some fans on the back and close any excess open slots to pull air across the top of the devices.

NavePoint Adjustable Rack Mount Server Shelf Shelves Rail Rails 1U https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_10vRzbR1DB9JA

Shelves are your best friend :)

> Navepoint 1U rail kit

This one? https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA

I ended up using something like this I found at a garage sale. The ones I have are a little more robust but they have no markings so I'm not sure who makes/sells them.

I was really disappointed with the screws that came with the case too. I sheared the head off two of them while attaching the motherboard to the inside. The case itself is fine, it just seems like all the extra stuff is the lowest possible quality.

Another on the cheap option.
This are 1U shelves which you can mount in your rack, and then stick any standard size rack mount device on top of. I'm using these for almost all my devices.

Depends on how heavy the device is.

Ears commonly lead to machines sagging in their enclosure over time for some bigger equipment like switches and routers. I got cheap Navepoint rails that support each device so that when I do unscrew them from the racks, I can just easily slide them out.

https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA

Though to be honest you should see if your OEM sells rails for your equipment first. Mine didn't, so that's why I went with these. Also look for flush screws so you can get the device itself as close to the cage nut as possible.

I used these - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0060RUVBA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

As for games right now I'm playing through Black Flag again on the new monitor. Haven't had a ton of time to really get into anything else just yet.

Not sure about the rack ears thing. I had to buy a universal rail system for mine.

This is the case, and it comes in several configurations to fit your needs. I chose the one with 15 bays because I will be building out a new gaming rig in a new rackmount case and using this build as my plex server within the next 6 months.

This is the rail system. It doesn't slide out, but it gets the job done for my needs. THere are other systems out there, and if memory servers, you CAN put a dell sliding rail system on this case with minor modifications.

Edit: I did replace the front 3 stock fans on that case with the orange fans in the pics.

I may have found a better alternative based upon this picture below.

https://i.imgur.com/ean3qcw.jpg

 

NavePoint Adjustable Rack Mount Server Shelf Shelves Rail Rails 1U (33.25" max depth)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0060RUVBA/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3FG64J8IOS59V

 

Should work with this cabinet below.

 

Tripp Lite 25U 4-Post Open Frame Rack, Network Equipment Rack, 1000 lb. Capacity (SR4POST25) 22" to 36" depth

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OB8T72/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Let me follow that up with my own question - my unit didn't come with rack mount hardware, just the ears. I'm pretty new to rackmounting stuff, but I'm assuming a 75lb unit shouldn't be mounted by just its front ears to a 4 post rack?

I'm considering buying a 4 post rack shelf to put it on, thoughts?

I once had 2 two-post racks, installed roughly back to back to make a single 4 post rack. I used generic adjustable rails kind of like these with some 1/2" plywood cut to size to fit to do the very thing you are discussing. Actually, depending on the server dimensions, and if you are willing to put them on their side, you may not need the plywood.

Rails to fit Rosewill's cases are pretty much all a minimum of 22". Your only real option for "rails" is to put in static shelves such as this one:

https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1539551858&sr=8-3&keywords=server+rails

That is not a server rack at 24" max depth. You can get away with with some adjustable L-shape rails to support the box, but it's not going to lock in and will hang out either the front or the back.

If you're contemplating more server hardware in the future you might want to consider selling the rack and getting a deeper one.

Is it sitting on the bottom of the rack?

Or did you use something like this? https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Adjustable-Mount-Server-Shelves/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1522809791&sr=8-3&keywords=server+rails


This is what I thought would make it more than 4U (albeit slightly more than 4U (by fractions of an inch).

I have an iStarUSA D-400-6-Blue with some drive bays, and then my "desktop" PC (my rack is next to my desk so my day to day computer is in the rack also) is in a iStarUSA D-400-L7. If I was creating a file server from scratch, I'd probably get a Norco 4020; however, the D-400-6 was my old "desktop" case, and when I switched to the D-400-L7 for a combination of the added cooling and having enough space that my extended length video cards weren't running into the drive bays, the D-400-6 replaced an old cheapo Dell server box as my main server.

I'm also a big fan of these universal rack rails. They don't slide or anything like that, but you can put absolutely anything on them. I'd still screw in the server's ears, but the rails make it a lot easier to lift it into place.

I put my R710s at the bottom of the rack. One actually has the sliding rails though. The other just sits at the bottom. I do have several of these but I have no clue if they’d hold the weight...

NavePoint Adjustable Rack Mount Server Shelf Shelves Rail Rails 1U https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0060RUVBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_lkQQBbQFCSFG1