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> Just because something hasn't been peer reviewed and isn't evidence based, doesn't mean it has zero value in the world.

Authentic faith isn't some leap into nothingness, or some 'holy hoping for the best' - it's the result of careful, reasoned, intentioned thought.

Plenty of evidence for the authenticity of the bible:

Secular sources verify historical claims[a]
Some opposed sources alluding to the supernatural acts of Jesus[a]
There are flood accounts in very many cultures that agree largely with [b], and scientific evidence suggesting the plausibility of[b1], the flood of Genesis
There's also the aspect of prophetic writings that undeniably came true in history that is currently past but had not come to pass at the time of the prophetic writing. [c]
Further, current science that backs up certain miracles in the old testament - but at the time of the writing they had no access to such knowledge. Two examples of this are the commands around food and hygeine[d], and the tree sweetening bitter waters in the wilderness[e, e1]
As a third example, the parting of the Red sea has been shown as feasible through natural phenomenon[f]
In the preceeding 3 cases the naturality of the occurrences doesn't diminish the miracle - it rather reinforces it. In the case of the tree making waters drinkable and the hygeine concerns, they flat out did not have the knowledge at the time to know to do these things - so if the source isn't man's knowledge, that leaves us with scarce options aside from that the source of the knowledge is correctly ascribed to God.
in the case of the parting of the red sea, the timing seems rather impossible aside from supernatural intervention. In all cases then, at least given that these events occurred, our current scientific knowledge shows the plausibility of these, while still upholding the miraculous nature of them due to knowledge and circumstances.

As for the non-historical claims of the bible, they can still be observed and reasoned about/tested to an extent with the laws of logic as well as general reasoning. Some of this brings personal experience into play and is not up to the standard of the scientific method but is also not devoid of evidence and reason.

I think that atheists especially, in general, think that all religions are equally devoid of real truth/logic. However, through the methods above, the vast majority of religions (at least) - can be fairly easily invalidated as man-made.

There is one objective truth in the world - and I hold that there is one God who created and ordered the universe and everything in it, and that He gave us a way to seek and know him through His word, the Bible (as well as through the glory of His creation itself[1,6]). His commands are good for us[2], but all people at the depths of their heart hold some if not all forms of evil[3,4], and above all naturally seek the good of themselves above the glory of God[5,6]. I believe that sin separates us from God, because He is so Holy and perfect that sin cannot exist in His presence[7]. In order to satisfy justice, He sent His Son to live the perfect life that we find ourselves unable to live, so that He could be an acceptable substitute for the Justice every single one of us rightly deserves for rejecting God[7].

pardon the spotty citation. i plan to expand it, having trouble finding a few specific sources I'm looking for.

[a] https://probe.org/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-from-non-christian-sources-2/
[a0] http://www.ancient-origins.net/history-important-events/egypt-remembers-ancient-accounts-great-exodus-002295/page/0/1
[a1] - independent secular verification of the plagues on egypt - https://www.gotquestions.org/evidence-ten-plagues.html
[b] one example - the gilgamesh account https://www.icr.org/article/noah-flood-gilgamesh/
[b0] [ctrl-f 'traditions around the world'] (https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/flood-legends/a-comparison-from-secular-historical-records/)
[b1] James Trefil - 'Evidence for a flood', Smithsonian.com
[c] https://www.allabouttruth.org/bible-prophecy.htm
[d] McMillen, M.D. - 'None of these diseases'

[e] Bush - 'Notes, Critical and Practical, on the Book of Exodus' - p197
[e0] one specific suggestion - https://godasagardener.com/2011/09/05/moses-and-the-mangrove-tree/
[f] Kate McAlpine - 'How wind may have parted the sea for Moses', newscientist.com


[1] Ps 19:1-3
[2] Romans 13:9-10
[3] Mark 7:20-23
[4] Jeremiah 17:9
[5] John 3:19-20
[6] Romans 1:18-22
[7] Romans 3:21-26