Reddit mentions of PetSafe ScatMat Indoor Pet Training Mat for Dogs and Cats - Sofa Size 12 X 60 inch - Pet Proof Your Home - Battery-Operated Electronic Repellent Mat

Is that pad electrified?
https://www.amazon.com/PetSafe-ScatMat-Training-Sofa-inches/dp/B0017XBDPA

As an aside, be sure they both have collars with ID tags on at all times - I see they already have collars, which is great! Get them both microchipped if they aren't chipped already.


I have two friends (one in Arizona and one in California) who both refused to chip, collar, or tag their "indoor only" cats since "their cats would NEVER get out", and of course both had their cats get out. One hadn't even spayed her cat, so thorough was she in her belief the cat would never get out - and of course the cat got pregnant before my friend found her. >_< Sooo, I am a firm believer that every cat should be chipped, collared, and tagged, even if they "never" get out.


As for your original problem - I am facing the exact same thing with my new 8-month-old. I currently use two SSSCats to keep her out of the kitchen and away from the front door, but I follow this Amazon review's advice in regards to the spray canister:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1YGZSYXLPRVJ0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000RIA95G


I also use the "sofa" size of this product:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0017XBDPA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


It's not like a shock collar - I've put my own hand on it and it's more like a static shock like when you rub your feet on carpet and then touch a metal object. It's more of a surprise than anything painful. You don't have to keep it or the SSSCats there forever - they'll learn quickly.


I've also used the "scare" tactic with great success with my older cat - when your little guys try to get out the door (or even approach it), slam your hands HARD onto whatever is nearby - floor, wall, countertop, the door itself - and yell "NO" in a deep, loud voice. Basically you're trying to make as much noise as you can at once to scare the crap out of them. Cats hate being startled. Do this every time it happens, the instant it happens. You can vary up the method of making sound, but make sure it is LOUD, sudden, and startling. You can also add a very light physical punishment to the fear-punishment - tap them on the top of the head with a finger along with a loud "NO". You're not hitting, just tapping firmly - imagine that you're trying to get someone's attention with a tap on their arm. Again, most people will condemn physically punishing a pet, but animals "understand" physical gestures, not words. (I know I said use a word, "NO", when yelling - you can use any other word/sound, "NO" is just conveniently easy to bellow.) Make it super unpleasant for them to even approach the door. If you open it a crack when you get home and they stick their heads/faces out, you can slap the door itself at that point and stomp to scare them.


It's worked wonders on my older cat (18 years old, used it to train her to stay out of the kitchen and to train her out of her random aggression that developed after my dog died) and your little guys won't be emotionally traumatized or hate you forever, don't worry!

I'm a terrible sleeper - wake up to the slightest sound or touch - so having the cat in the bedroom just isn't possible for me. One of the first things I bought when I adopted my cat was this shock mat. I laid it down outside my door. He stepped on it once and now avoids the door area. I set a nice bed a little ways away from the door, so he has a place to call his own for the night. Never had any problems after the first week or so.

We use a sofa-sized Scat Mat across the front seats to keep cats off them. I suppose you could get two of them and put one on the top as well. They run off batteries, and roll-up easily, so they are very simple to use every day and put away when you need to drive the Jeep.

If you'd like them to not be on your desk or other surfaces, may I recommend: https://smile.amazon.com/PetSafe-ScatMat-Indoor-Training-Electronic/

There are these plastic spike thingies you can put in your flower pots to discourage the cat from getting in there. Cheapest are the ones at Daiso. Dunno if you have that store..so here is a link to them on Amazon.


Cat Scat Mat With Garden Spikes, Anti-cat Prickle Strip w/12 Staples, 12 Strips, Tape, Deter Dog Digging Yard, Fence, Pots, Repel Critters Climbing Birdfeeder, Safe no Hurt,11.8inx6.5ft Roll https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PDNH18L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_pXsmDb1D1GH9F

If you don't want the cat to jump on something, like your counters, then try these:

PetSafe ScatMat Indoor Pet Training Mat for Dogs and Cats , Sofa Size, 12 X 60 inch, Pet Proof Your Home, Electronic Training Mat https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017XBDPA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_UYsmDb6SZ2MJE

Or these Ssscat Spray Ssscat Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RIA95G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_sZsmDbWXRRJSB

What do you mean by 'drops things'?

how about these?

I know someone who used something like this on their counters (non weimaraner).

I guess it worked well, but I've heard varying things (some bad) about using shocks on dogs. I guess you have to be really careful or you can permanently mess up the dog psychologically, but I don't know anything about it/them.

I would suggest a ssscat spray can or ssscat mat. Worked like a charm for us! The mat is more of an investment up front, but you'll never need to purchase replacement cannisters:

https://www.amazon.ca/PetSafe-ScatMat-Training-Large-inches/dp/B0017XBDPA/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=ssscat&qid=1574462631&sr=8-5&th=1

Put the can or mat just outside your bedroom door and they'll either have the shit scared out of them by the spray can, or they'll get a mild shock from stepping on the mat (which is enough for them to learn not to go there).

ScatMat

This will be much better and safer. It also has the benefit of not being able to reset when you aren't there. With ideas like yours, cats often learn to set off traps so they can go do what they want anyway. The scatmat won't stop working after the cat jumps up the first time

Daww, I would say poor kitty but this is sufficient punishment for being a BAD GIRL. Also, I have found hanging a scat mat (an electrified shock blanket after a fashion) has stopped my kitty from manipulating the screen door. I imagine it would work if you hung it/placed it where you didn't want kitty to go.

This is, of course, you have already used tape and other sticky things to gross out the cat so they don't want to touch it...

The Scat Mat is an electric pad you put on the couch, counter, anyplace. I haven't used it, but I know it exists. I don't think he's getting enough exercise. He may need more rough, run, and higher energy outlets than just a simple walk.

I have a cat shopping list for myself, here are some links to a few of the things I plan to purchase and thought could help you.

I would consider getting as many of these covers as necessary, and a few scratching posts to put nearby.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XV586VQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_kWzyDb2V14202

You could also try placing these in front of or on top of the couch.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0721735K9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_iZzyDbHT6AA8Q
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017XBDPA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KZzyDbXTT8JGG

They also make claw covers that come in multiple colors. Regardless of what you do, please don't discard your cat, and do your best to trim his nails. I use this one, it's pretty good.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JENKK8Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_P3zyDbQCRECV3

Remember that encouraging good behavior with treats and appropriate outlets for scratching is vital to the health of your pet and the sanity of your household. Do your best not to punish, simply redirect them to a better option. (Basically put the cat scratching posts near the couch or any problem areas while covering the furniture with hard plastic to redirect his energy.)