Reddit mentions of Pyle Phono Turntable Preamp - Mini Electronic Audio Stereo Phonograph Preamplifier with RCA Input, RCA Output & Low Noise Operation Powered by 12 Volt DC Adapter (PP444)

>If they are from a turntable, you will need an amplifier that has either a built in or external phonostage.
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>Oh boy, this is more complicated than I thought haha, as you can tell I’m new at this!

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Speaker Amplification:

• Look for a used stereo or AV receiver.
  
• Mini amp: SMSL SA100 $73 with Bluetooth.
  
• Stereo receiver: PIONEERSX-10AE 2-Ch x 100 Watts Bluetooth $149.99 $119.99
  
• AV Receiver
  
  Phono preamp: ART DJ Pre II $67. Or start with a $13 Pyle PP444 and upgrade to a better one later.
  
  Speaker Wire: Pure Copper Oxygen Free Speaker Wire or Basic Copper Clad Aluminum then 4 Ways to Strip Wire. Optionally add banana plugs. Already with banana plugs AmazonBasics buy 2 for a pair 6 or 12 feet.
  
  Speaker Placement for Stereo Music Listening
  
  Speaker stands: Dayton Audio SSMB24 or Monoprice Glass.
  
  Also check out r/BudgetAudiophile.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say "no phono stage" Your amp doesn't have a Phono preamp, just line level. If you review the tiny bit of info that comes with that cart you'll see that the output is somewhere around .5mv Line level, What you get from CD players your TV etc is around 1v.
get yourself one of these:http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=pd_sim_MI_2 (though sumiko/pro-ject makes a much nicer one for only a bit more moola. Happy spinning!

This: https://uturnaudio.com/products/orbit-basic-turntable

Don't get anything less. Seriously.

You'll also need this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1506141699&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

The difference between a $120 turntable and a $180 turntable is a lot more than $60.

From the looks of that receiver, there's no "phono" input, which routes the signal through an additional preamp before hitting the power amp. Older A/V components have them, I doubt yours with 4 HDMI inputs does. You could try connecting it via USB, but I'd advise against that and instead point you to an inexpensive phono preamp like this:

http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376256067&sr=8-1&keywords=phono+preamp

Buy a U-Turn Basic, Micca MB42 speakers, Lepai amp, Pyle pre amp and some cheap speaker wire

It's over your budget but this is about as cheap as you can get while still getting new high quality gear.

You'll need a phono preamp.

Here's a very good one for under $50.

Not as good, but decent and will get the job done super cheap.

Nice grab on that Technics.

Jim knows what you're looking for, OP.

I've found the parts you'll want to get as well. It's definitely a real budget set up, but it'll get you started.

Phono preamp

Patch cable (from phono to iHome)

Just plug the turntable into the phono input, then use the patch cable to go from the phono's output and into your iHome, and you're good to go.

It isn't the speakers. If they sound okay with your iPad, they should sound okay with the turntable. If the tt RCA cord is removable, try a different cord. Also, make sure the record you are using is in good shape, or try another one if you can. Another option is to plug some headphones into the amp, and see if that reproduces the crappy sound. Lastly, you can spray de-oxit electrical contact cleaner onto the phono contacts to clean them. Let it dry (a few minutes tops) and try again. If your phono input is dead, you can get one of those external phono inputs and run it through an aux or tape input.

Have you bought a pre-amp. A lot of the old recievers had amps installed for turntables, but the new ones do not. If you can barley hear it, you should get one, it was the issue w/ mine, and now it works perfectly.
You can find them at Sam Ash, or Guitar Center. Looks like this: http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419267386&sr=8-1&keywords=pre+amp+for+turntables, or this: http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419267386&sr=8-1&keywords=pre+amp+for+turntables

edit: nevermind, saw that you have a standalone console...

I recently upgraded from an LP60 to a LP1240 (secondhand) and I've been seriously underwhelmed and am having problems.

The LP60 sounded crisper with cleaner sound which shouldn't be the case for a much more expensive table with a cartridge costing more than the previous table all together.

The 1240 wasn't nearly loud enough so I had to add a preamp, I know there is a built in one but after trying every possible Line/phono config it still was't giving me the volume the LP60 had.

Also I am getting a loud hum which I can't seam to figure out. I attracted a ground wire from the turntable to the preamp which reduced hum but is still prevalent. I'm almost positive this hum is stemming from the turntable itself as when I used the LP60 with the amp there was no hum whatsoever and the hum is still there when the preamp isn't connected.

Video of hum

Setup:

Turntable

Amp

Pre Amp

Headshell

Cartridge

Speakers

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That's the platter. They normally have a rubber mat on them. Damp lint free cloth can clean it easily.

Yes, if you don't know how long it's been on it, replace it.

If you don't have the money, getting the Behringer or Pyle Phono preamp is sufficient. They're pretty cheap on amazon.

If you can swing get the art dj preII.

I have just purchased my first turntable, a Technics SL-B2, from eBay, and it will be here in ten days. So now I have ten days to put together a preamp +amp +speaker set-up-thing that really freaks me out. Which leads me to my questions for y'all...


Option 1

Right now I have these things in my amazon cart. I'm really just trying to get my feet wet with this stuff (without breaking the bank), but I don't know if these things go together/would work as a whole. My main worry is the fact that I have no idea how to do a ground wire... I'm relatively confident that I could connect the TT to the preamp, and the preamp to the amp, but from there I'm lost (any advice would be welcome).


Option 2

This is a craigslist entry somewhat-local to me (about 1.5 hours away), that came up when I typed in "phono receiver". Is this a preamp, amp, and speaker all in one? Is it too good to be true? How would this then connect to the TT?

Background

Having already purchased the record player, I'm hoping to keep the rest of the set-up below $120, and preferably closer to $80. I understand these are very slim margins, but my hope is to start with the bargain-basics, and to then (hopefully) upgrade piece-by-piece with the coming-Christmases and Birthdays.

Also, given that I do plan to upgrade my set-up in pieces, I'm leaning towards Option 1 because it seems it would be easier to swap out parts over time...

Overall

I'm just hoping for general advice, well wishes, whatever y'all can give me. I've done a lot of research but without all the parts in my hands I just can't visualize putting it all together, and could use y'all's experience. Really, I'm just itching to finally play some records!

Please help! And thanks in advance:)

You need a phono stage, cheapest that I know of.

Some preamps (such as this one) do have 1/4" outputs, so you could get a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter and plug your computer speakers into that.

According to one review of the Pioneer turntable, it does have a built-in preamp, so it appears that you don't need one. The phono EQ is explained in the section on RIAA equalization in the article that I linked. Since you're probably buying a turntable with a built-in preamp, that means that all you really need is a female RCA to female 1/8" adapter, such as this one.

Thanks again for the advice.
I just bought the SL-D202 TT and two Boston Acoustics A40s speakers (8 ohms)
But i didn't take the receiver. Do you think the below one would work and work well with the preamp posted below it?

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH130-Channel-Stereo-Receiver/dp/B006U1VH2S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451673316&sr=8-1&keywords=receiver

http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

You'll have to check craigslist or something. You need a phono preamp, an amp, and speakers.

Alternatively, you'll need a phono preamp, and active monitors

or an amp with phono input, and speakers.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-RX-395-2-Channel-Stereo-Receiver-Amp-Phono-Turntable-Input-AM-FM-Black-/282297973948?hash=item41ba453cbc:g:hzIAAOSwnHZYXqIl

something like this, and some junk goodwill speakers, and speaker wire are already over your budget.

the cheapest amazon stuff:

https://www.amazon.com/Lepy-LP-2024A-Amplifier-Stereo-Supply/dp/B00ULRFQ1A/ref=pd_sim_23_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00ULRFQ1A&pd_rd_r=K7NZC8MT9NE3WJGEDS7R&pd_rd_w=oS56N&pd_rd_wg=UDEDg&psc=1&refRID=K7NZC8MT9NE3WJGEDS7R

https://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482864764&sr=8-3&keywords=phono+preamp

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-B452-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B00Q3MF9YQ/ref=sr_1_8?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1482865038&sr=1-8&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A2494592011

You'll also need rca cables and speaker wire. This will be above your budget and wont be very good. Pyle is a POS. If you double your budget you can have a much, much, much better sounding system.

The bs22s are 89.00$ right now and are a steal. That plus a goodwill amp with phono input will be far superior to the lepai pyle and dayton audio.

Local used is your best bet.

Yeah, it will literally say phono (sometimes specifying what type of cartridge, MM or MC). Or you can buy a specific phono preamp, which will then go into that input.

This is the cheapest I could find (and the only one less than $50): https://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ

It should sound OK but the reviews imply it has a tendency to break.

You might be able to find something used on craigslist or a thrift store but nothing new that has a phono stage in an amplifier. You best bet is a super cheap phone pre-amp and a cheap amp. Such as the following two items:

https://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ

https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-50Wx2-TDA7492-Amplifier-Adapter/dp/B00F0H8TOC

It does not have one built in. I'll just copy this from another post in another thread:

> For a preamp, they can start as low as $20 for a Pyle. If you can spend a little more, I recommend the ART or its USB counterpart.

Yes you will need a preamp. They can be had for little money on amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_N8yTBbXJ0D0MJ

If your turntable doesn't have a phono amp, you'll need one. While I won't go deep into detail, if you take the audio out of a turntable without a phono amp into a normal amp, it'll be quiet and weird.

Could be something as cheap as this:
https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Phono-Turntable-Preamp-Preamplifier/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543260861&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=phono+preamp&dpPl=1&dpID=51SGsJ%2BNdGL&ref=plSrch

From there, you'd go into your powered monitors, preamp/amp/passive speakers combo, or AV receiver/passive speakers.

Edit: sometimes, preamps and receivers have their own incorporated phono amps, but if so, it'll be clearly stated on their specifications.

Hi Reddit,

I am not yet an audiophile, but have been doing some research as I'm inheriting a hi-fi system comprised of the following:

-Luxman M-113 stereo amplifier

-Luxman M-120A stereo amplifier

-Counterpoint SA-5000 Preamplifier with power supply

-2 VPMS RM1 speakers (8 Ohms)

-Pro-Ject Audio Debut Carbon turntable

I live in an apartment, so it is completely unrealistic to keep all this gear. I have the option to keep/buy more/sell existing hardware however I see fit in order to achieve the following two goals:

1. Ability to stream via Bluetooth audio from a record on the turntable to the VPMS RM1 speakers on the other side of the living room. I don't mind minor quality degradation due to bluetooth, but absolutely cannot run wire and the turntable will not be placed near receiver.
   
   
2. As small of a hardware footprint as possible. System does not need to be loud.
   
   After some research I have found these three products - will they, in combination, allow me to achieve my goals? Maybe I'm on the right track but chose terrible hardware?
   
   
3. A turntable preamp which the Debut Carbon will go directly into - something like https://www.amazon.ca/Pyle-Pro-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_2
   
   
4. Bluetooth audio transmitter which the preamp will out to - something like https://www.amazon.ca/Bluetooth-Streaming-Esinkin-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B016NUTG5K/ref=pd_ybh_a_4
   
   
5. Bluetooth compatible audio receiver - something like https://www.amazon.ca/Pyle-Pro-PDA5BU-Bluetooth-Amplifier-Readers/dp/B00LI4L1LO/ref=sr_1_4
   
   Also if anyone has any idea how much those amps & preamps might be worth used please let me know. I would probably lean towards keeping them in storage though, so I can appreciate them when I have room to actually have them out. The turntable and speakers I can keep as is I probably?

This is as cheap as they get:

http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1371145585&sr=8-3&keywords=pre+amp

I personally use a mixer a built in pre amp:

http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PMX5U-Professional-3-Stereo-Channel/dp/B003G8V8LS/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1371145712&sr=8-7&keywords=dj+mixer

You will likely need a phono pre-amp that allows you to plug your turn-table into the receiver via normal RCA inputs.

Cheapest speakers are the Dayton B652's. ($40/pair). After that you double your budget to the Micca MB42X's ($80/pair). After that you go big and go with the Fluance SX6's ($130/pair)

Thank you! That would make a lot more sense.
Would this be a good investment? http://www.amazon.com/LP-2020A-Lepai-Tripath-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B0049P6OTI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398041844&sr=8-1&keywords=amp

This is what I own. http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1398041891&sr=1-2&keywords=turntable+amp

Hmm so RCA phono in and 3.5mm jack out.. The speakers are amped and have a volume control. So you need a phono stage cause all turntables need them to get your analog audio to line level. I assume you're trying to save money so we won't get serious. This Pyle should do the job

https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Phono-Turntable-Preamp-Preamplifier/dp/B004HJ1TTQ

From the pyle you'll want an RCA Male to 3.5mm Female cable. This should do it.

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Premium-Stereo-Female-Plated/dp/B003L14XTO

EDIT: OH looks like the Logitech speakers have an RCA input! So you don't need a converter. So this monoprice rca between the phono pre and the Logitech should work. Let me know if I'm wrong, cause if it doesn't have RCA input then you'll be going back to RCA to 3.5mm converter.

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-1-5ft-Premium-22AWG-Cable/dp/B003L1717K

If you need the RCA interconnect between the turntable and preamp.

https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CRA-202DJ-Ground-Stereo-Interconnect/dp/B000PO1H80

Personally I'd get a good integrated like a yamaha, that's more in the direction of best way and hook it up to some nice floorstander towers or bookshelf speakers like Klipsch, Elac, and so on.

Okay so if I buy this for the phono stage (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HJ1TTQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_5&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER) and then hook that up to this amp (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049P6OTI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER) would that work?

Thanks! Would this work decently?

Edifier S350DB speakers: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077Y6PHKQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Pyle Phono preamp: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Turntable hand me down is a Sanyo TP 1020: https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_reviews.php?make=Sanyo&model=TP+1020

Yeah. You could get away with a different preamp unless you really need the trs output too.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1422382934&sr=8-1&dpPl=1&dpID=41yDcaOTZVL&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483597904&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=preamp&dpPl=1&dpID=41DV2C09%2B7L&ref=plSrch Like one of these? I have this, but don't have it hooked up because I need more cables. If I use this combined with my amp should I be good? Total noob to all this :(

A Phono Preamp (like this) will do the job I think, I don't have much experience with preamps, the others here may be able to provide more insight. There are MANY different preamps out there, at every price range. So give it a look! The preamp will output at line level, so it ought to work just fine.

If you go to ebay, amazon, etc. just search "Phono preamp" and see what you find.

You are correct. The amount of electrical signal actually produced by the little squiggles on the record is very small. 50 milivolts at the most. In contrast, the level that a CD player or iPod can create is more like 2000 milivolts. And in order to fit more music on a record, they intentionally reduce the strength of the bass in the recording. Low frequencies require that the needle does a lot of wiggling and those wiggles take up more physical space.

What you need is a preamp. This will add in the appropriate equalization and bump up the signal to a level that the Marshall Stanmore can work with. There are a number of inexpensive options available. Personally, I'd go with this little guy:

http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425592172&sr=8-1&keywords=phono+preamp

It's not going to win any awards with the audiophile illuminati, but it'll get the job done quietly and unobtrusively.

That cable will just take any 3.5mm headphone jack and split it to the 1/4" jacks.

The only reason I suggested a dock is because from what I remember sound quality coming out of the dock connector is better than the headphone jack. ( Do some research, I just vaguely remember reading about this 5 years ago, things might of vastly changed - I don't own any iproducts )

If/when you get a record player, you will most likely need a phono preamp. http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370021288&sr=8-1&keywords=phono+preamp for example (just the first one I found)

I would pick up a RCA selector(you might have one at home) when you have more than once device. You might want one now so you can easily plug your computer in. The output of the RCA selector would use a rca -> 1/4" jack. You would also get a 3.5mm->rca cable. (one for each device if you don't want to be switching them out all the time)

This is by no means the audiophile route, but it's the economical route to having your music sound better than everyone else (Unless you know audiophiles).

Most audiophiles are more concerned about numbers and looks, not how the music sounds (well the numbers and looks change how they perceive the music - http://www.matrixhifi.com/ENG_contenedor_ppec.htm * the thing to really take away from that article is that - the most important part is the speakers, not all the other crap)

Absolute newb here. I have a technics 1200 mk2 that I'd like to start setting up for mostly casual vinyl listening (lots of shoegaze, ambient, acoustic). I've been using it with this cheap preamp, which was fine volume-wise but strangely kept picking up radio background noise that I could hear through the music. I'd like to replace it now, but I'm not sure what to look for, would appreciate suggestions for sure. Cartridge suggestions welcome also. Budget very flexible.

I'll try fiddling with the tone controls. I have before heard the volume reduction issue, went up and touched the case of the amp with my hand, and it resolved itself.

Seems like the cheap phono stages I've seen (example,example) won't accept the low output of my Denon cart... and I'm not willing to shell out $100+ for an experiment. If I'm spending that, I'd rather replace the amp, but I also struggle to find modern integrateds at a reasonable price point that accept MC carts.

My previous table (project debut carbon DC) ran an MM cart and that section never gave me any issues, though the table exhibited that ground hum many people have reported. When you say failing phono stage, might that be failing caps? Oxidized circuits? I wonder how viable it might be to repair.

78 RPM

Recently I was crate digging in the bargain section at my local record store and came across a box full of 78s, which I believe were around $1 each. That got me thinking about old Victrola credenzas and me fantasizing about playing 78s. I use a Technics SL-D3 direct driven TT to play on, but have a Sanyo TP-1005 belt driven TT with a worn out belt and broken plastic on the headshell, but otherwise good condition. I then thought that I may be able to play 78s using that as my 78 table with a dedicated 78 cart. I proceeded to research methods online, and found that I could using vinyl electrical tape or even a plastic straw on the motor to make it spin fast enough. I’m on quite a budget right now at around $50-$60 for a cartridge and stylus (I have an extra Technics headshell), new belt, and phono preamp, since there is only one designated phono slot on my receiver and an empty auxiliary slot. Would these materials work?

Cartridge and stylus: https://www.lpgear.com/product/AT9578.html

Belt: https://www.dynamiclamps.com/products/turntable-belt-for-sanyo-models-tp-1005-tp-1005a-tp-1010?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoebsBRCHARIsAC3JP0JEMLXAY-CBIPME2e4-HxbYCI-Akxa9tG1blERFI_a6DAHjJJyFT5UaAuDZEALw_wcB&variant=326796541967

Preamp: https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Phono-Turntable-Preamp-Preamplifier/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sxin_6_ac_m_rm?ac_md=0-0-cGhvbm8gcHJlYW1w-ac_d_rm&keywords=phono+preamp&pd_rd_i=B004HJ1TTQ&pd_rd_r=35fc19dd-7c83-4a6f-be24-2f5619c7f8fc&pd_rd_w=hAVuJ&pd_rd_wg=9wPna&pf_rd_p=73c1eab1-1449-4c6d-b922-1dce21aded6d&pf_rd_r=1ND269BMGWJ6A5VV2Z34&psc=1&qid=1570424193&sprefix=phono+pr

I have an old Pioneer PLD-115 that sounded great when I ran it through my amp/mixer & passive speakers. Recently, I've tried to run it through a set of Bose Companion 5's I have (powered speakers). I'm doing this through a cheap preamp I got on Amazon. The sound is incredibly treble-y and has lost all of it's quality. Is this a factor of the pre-amp I chose, or are the Companion 5's that incapable of being a part of the set up?

Thank you for the fast response! So when switching to a preamp I'll just have to control the volume from the speakers themselves instead of a receiver?

http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1419307631&sr=8-2&keywords=phono+preamp

found that one and it seems to have a lot of good reviews. I assume the set up would go TURNTABLE > PREAMP > RCA TO XLR > SPEAKERS?

I have a old bic 980 turntable that I just replaced the parts for and it works great. It was a little too quiet plugged into my speakers so I purchased a pre amp for it, and now it is too loud for just casual listening. My turntable, speakers, and pre amp all do not have volume control on them. This is what preamp I have.

Question is, what would be the best way for me to go about controlling volume? not looking to spend too much, I suppose my options would be a different speaker setup with volume controls on it, or I saw something like a inline volume control for the audio cable. Let me know if i have any other options or if you have any recommendations. Thanks.

Oh yeah, it's not gonna sound like shit lol, but having a separate one would be considerable better, they wouldn't put something horrible in this thats for sure.

The one inside the speakers is probably something along the lines of this quality

https://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1493572429&sr=8-2&keywords=pyle+preamp

I had that one for my old techics setup, it works and sounds decent

My mom upgraded her stero setup a couple years ago and I incorporated it with our TV system so the audio from our TV plays out of the stero. She had a turntable with her old receiver that still works, but isn't compatible with our new stero. After doing some research, I think the issue is that we need a preamp to connect the old turntable to the new receiver (I guess the old receiver had one built in). Would it just be easier to get a new turn table? (the old one is probably over 20 years old) even though it is still functional? Am I right about needing a preamp? I was looking at this preamp. I know my mom likes the "warm" (not sure how to describe it) sound of vinyl records but she is by no means an audiophile and doesn't listen to records very often so I don't need anything to premium. I'm looking to get this all set up for her for mother's day, and I will be paying for it (I'm a student in highschool) so I won't be able to afford anything too expensive. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Here's some pictures of her old reciever, the turn table, the connections that the turntable uses (it doesn't have a power plug?), and the new reciever that we plan on plugging it into.

Noob question. I recently bought a Realistic Lab-420 turntable from a guy (he made a video of it over here) and this is my first proper turntable. I understand that there are no speakers connected to this turntable. I have a bluetooth speaker that I can use for now (until I save up enough for a better sound system), or some other speakers with AUX inputs. He told me I would need this preamp to use it. So, if I'm understanding this right, I need a wire to connect the turntable to this preamp, and then another wire to connect the preamp to my speaker? Which wires are those?

My take on the Essential III is that you can get a whole lot more turn table for not a whole lot more money by getting a Debut Carbon. I think an Essential III is $350 and the Debut Carbon is easy to find for $400. 50 bucks more buys you a way better cart/stylus and an overall better build. No built in Pre-amp, but It's better to spend the extra $50 on a better table and get an external preamp or an amp with a built in phono-stage. If you don't want to throw a bunch of $$ on a preamp, you can get a decent enough one for very cheap

The only caveat is if you play a lot of 45rpm records. If you do, the Debut Carbon is a pain because you have to lift the platter to change the speed. Other than that, it's an amazing table. I don't really ever see myself upgrading from mine.

Maybe a pre-amp and amplifier is more appropriate for those speakers? Don't be afraid of budget Pro audio/DJ stuff it has good reviews. Receivers tend to not be suitable for demanding speakers unless they are very expensive.

https://www.amazon.com/Rockville-PPA20-Professional-Pre-Amplifier-Crossover/dp/B0732PQSQN/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1549578817&sr=8-2&keywords=rockville+preamp

https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Phono-Turntable-Preamp-Preamplifier/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_9?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1549578876&sr=1-9&keywords=Phono+preamp

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/gemini-xga-4000-power-amplifier

If you only have $300.00 and you want new this is basically what you can get, a powerful integrated will run you at least 500-600.00.

Hey thanks for the response! Would something like this be good for my small, temporary setup?
PYLE-PRO PP444 Ultra Compact Phono Turntable Preamp https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jxgzzb5AQ9ZA5
Cheers!

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If you have passive speakers you are gonna need a phono pre-am like this. You will also need an audio amplifier like this to power the speakers. Recently set up a 45 station, and this set-up worked a treat with my Advent Loudspeakers.

You can get serviceable speakers very cheap. If you don't want to go through the legwork of buying used: https://www.parts-express.com/6-1-2-2-way-bookshelf-speaker-pair-and-hi-fi-mini-amplifier-bundle--300-6534 AND https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Phono-Turntable-Preamp-Preamplifier/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/

Or just go to a couple of garage sales and buy the speakers + receiver you'll inevitably come across at one of them. Just make sure it has a phono input and you're good to go.

EDIT: I see you already have that amp. You won't need the receiver then. Just a phono preamp and speakers. https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-b652-6-1-2-2-way-bookshelf-speaker-pair--300-652 For the Dayton speakers alone. For $42 with the phono preamp, you're up and running.

Definitely get a phono preamp, they start at about $15 online, here is a cheap one. You need one of these to get proper sound from a record, wikipedia explains why pretty well. This is a required part of a vinyl setup, not only will it correct the frequency response you get from your records but you speakers will also be a lot louder.

I have some old speakers (technica) that only have speaker wire connections. I hooked them up with some speaker wire to something pretty similar to this pre amp

https://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474392756&sr=8-1&keywords=preamp

using these connectors

https://www.amazon.com/Bluecell-10pcs-Phono-Terminal-Connector/dp/B00SSZERWQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1474392812&sr=8-3&keywords=speaker+wire+to+rca

and it works only a little. The volume can't really be adjusted and has to be very low for it to be listen able, higher up it is staticy/kinda gross sounding. Is it just a shoddy job with the splicing or do I need to upgrade the preamp/ I don't really know.

any help appreciated!

This one will work just fine.

http://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_sc_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1394081330&sr=8-3-spell&keywords=Behrenger+p400

I'm looking for some sort of auxiliary cable switcher to use at work to switch between listening to music on my phone and my computer.

I found this post and that seems like the product I need but I was wondering if there was a cheaper alternative? or is that one the best quality for around that price range? I know nothing about amplifiers. is a preamp the same thing as an amplifier? I'm listening to music on my Sennheiser HD598's btw.

how is this one?

thanks

Just also to clarify to OP or anyone else who's new at this that the mixer in the first step can be anything with a phono ins, even this $15 phono preamp. You only need it to bring up the signal from the turntable. Also, the plural of vinyl is vinyl (it needed to be said).

https://www.amazon.com/PYLE-PRO-PP444-Compact-Turntable-Preamp/dp/B004HJ1TTQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1485790479&sr=8-3&keywords=phono+preamp

Edit: I see that the MPC Renaissance has a built in phono preamp, so you can route the turntable directly into the MPC Renaissance.

I wonder if a cheap phono preamp would work ?

https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Phono-Turntable-Preamp-Preamplifier/dp/B004HJ1TTQ

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