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  • These notes (dating from 1990) were first shown by JK Rowling in the 2001 documentary Harry Potter & Me. It's two pages of a notebook with a list of forty student names, each followed by three symbols to indicate their gender, blood status, and house. Unfortunately a lot of it was hard to read, and the entire second page besides the last names was cut off.

  • Shortly after the documentary aired, a fan by the name of Trond Michelsen stitched together an image from the different frames which became the goto image of the list. (Not sure the exact date, all that I know is that this was before 2003.)

  • A clearer HD image of one of the frames was tweeted by the documentary's director in December of 2014. As far as I can tell, the documentary was never released in that quality.

  • On August 15th 2011, this essay about the list was published on Pottermore as part of their content for book one in their initial beta launch. It was hidden inside the moment for chapter 11 (You had to click on the open book to unlock it.)

    >You've unlocked 'The Original Forty' by J.K. Rowling

    >J.K. Rowling shares details of her early notebooks that hold the names of the first forty students she created

  • The essay published on Pottermore included a transcription of the whole list, but only the names, not the symbols. Some errors were present in her transcription, like Runcorn was omitted (so we still don't know his/her first name), and Su Li was spelled Sue Li.

  • After the 2015 Pottermore redesign it can be found at https://www.pottermore.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/the-original-forty.

  • J.K Rowling briefly mentioned the list in a 2007 interview with Melissa Anelli.

    >Of all my notebooks, in my most treasured ones, I wrote the names of all the teachers and the names of everyone in Harry’s year with little symbols beside them saying if they’re half-blood, pure-blood, Muggle-born.

  • This list has been subject to a LOT of fan analysys over the years, here are some examples.

  • "Harry's Year" by Troels Forchhammer (2003)
  • "Secrets of the Class List by Diana Summers (2006) (Later updated in 2008 and 2013.)
  • "What Happened to each of the Original Forty" by DVK (2015)
  • "The Revised Forty" by hpboy13 (2016)
  • "Hogwarts Class of 1991-92 The Original 40 Analysis" by punkpoet182 (2016)

  • Some names on the list seem to be brought in the books unchanged, some were modified a bit, and some seem to have been dropped altogether.

  • Susan Bones, Mandy Brocklehurst, Lavender Brown, Millicent Bulstrode, Michael Corner, Vincent Crabbe, Justin Finch-Fletchley, Seamus Finnigan, Anthony Goldstein, Gregory Goyle, Hermione Granger, Neville Longbottom, Draco Malfoy, Theodore Nott, Pansy Parkinson, Sally-Anne Perks, Harry Potter, Lisa Turpin, Ronald Weasley, and Blaise Zabini all appear in the Harry Potter books as they are mentioned here. (The symbols don't always line up though. Michael Corner and Anthony Goldstein were Ravenclaws in the books, and a lot of these characters either have their info cut off from the picture or not mentioned in the books, so it might not necessarily match.)

  • Stephen Cornfoot, Tracey Davis, Kevin Entwhistle, Wayne Hopkins, Megan Jones, Roger Malone, Su Li, Oliver Rivers, Sophie Roper, and [????] Runcorn are never mentioned as students in any of JKR's writings, and no one with similar names appears. (Su Li might have been an earlier incarnation of Cho Chang. She also might have become Lee Jordan, who seems to have been in Harry's year at some point; Megan Jones might have morphed into adult characters Gwenog Jones or Hestia Jones; Oliver Rivers may have morphed into older student Oliver Wood; [????] Runcorn may have morphed into adult character Albert Runcorn. It's also worth mentioning that there is allegedly an "Annabel Entwhistle" and a "Carl Hopkins" in some of the videogames.)

  • Abbott, Hannah Written as Muggle-born here, but implied to be pure-blood in the books. In a post-DH interview, JKR arbitrarily decided to make her a half-blood.

    >MA:There’s a line in Deathly Hallows when Harry (SU: Yeah.) see someone that he thinks might be Hannah Abbott’s long-lost relatives. What’s her deal? Is she a Muggle-born? Is she- Did she lose her family?

    >JKR: Oh, you mean the grave?

    >MA:Yeah.

    >JKR: No. She’s not Muggle-born. She’s- No, I’m pretty sure Hannah’s a pureblood. I know her mother died.

    >MA:In an old documentary, you showed a picture that had like all the family associations, and Hannah appeared to be Muggle-blood in the (JKR: Did she?) fan’s carefully constructed image of that picture.

    >JKR: Because I’ll tell you what. If that’s the- I’ve got that notebook, and that’s one of my cornerstone notebooks. In that case, then I’ve been mis-remembering that, because I thought she was pureblood. Hm, interesting.

    >MA:Hm.

    >JKR: Beause I’ve certainly (MA:Okay.) written about her, and thought about her for years now (MA:Mm-hm.) as pureblood, so that’s interesting. (laughs) Maybe we’ll just split the difference and call her half-blood. (MA and JN laugh) Yeah, that’s how decisions are taken in the fairly random world of J.K. Rowling. (MA and JN laugh)

    "PotterCast Interviews J.K. Rowling, part one." PotterCast #130, 17 December 2007

  • Boot, Trevor Likely split into Terry Boot and Trevor the Toad. Terry attended Hogwarts during book seven, so he cannot be Muggle-born like shown here.
  • Greengrass, Queenie Likely became Daphne (or Astoria) Greengrass. "Queenie" was eventually used in Queenie Goldstein
  • MacDougal, Isobel likely became Morag MacDougal, who was sorted in book one. Isobel was later used for McGonagall's mother's name.
  • Macmillan, Ernest likely became Ernie Macmillan, (unless Ernie is just a nickname)
  • Moon, Lily JKR: "first intimation of Luna Lovegood, this name was never used, but gave me an idea for a fey, dreamy girl. She was named before I decided on Harry’s mother’s name." That said, there was someone with the last name "Moon" sorted in the first book

  • Madhari and Mati Patel almost certainly became Padma and Parvati.

  • Thomas, Gary became Dean Thomas

    >As you can see, Dean originally joined Harry, Ron, Hermione and Neville for the adventure. As you can see from the written caption, Dean was called "Gary" in those days.

    >JKR describing an old sketch posted to her website in 2004

  • Smith, Sally may have become Zacharias Smith