Reddit mentions of Social Justice in Islam, Revised Edition

"At least I'm not black" is what you white, bourgeois, socialist, racialist say all day long.

Let me put it like this: what's the difference between "White Privilege" and "White Supremacy"? Nothing. I couldn't fucking tell the difference between "White Privilege" as it was being described to us by left wing racialists, and the rhetoric that Bob Dylan was re-iterating made by pro-segregationists.

Look and see what I mean:

>A South politician preaches to the poor white man

>“You got more than the blacks, don’t complain.

>You’re better than them, you been born with white skin,” they explain.

>And the Negro’s name

>Is used it is plain

>For the politician’s gain

>As he rises to fame

>And the poor white remains

>On the caboose of the train

>But it ain’t him to blame

>He’s only a pawn in their game

"You've got more than the blacks, don't complain" is the same fucking line that we here today from the left. Maybe Dylan could modernize it by saying, "You've got more than the blacks, stay in your lane."

Here's another good one? What do you call, "Separate but equal?" ... Equality of outcome.

Social Justice, Racial Justice, it's been used by Nazis, Fascists, Theocrats, Islamsits, Communists, and every other scoundrel in history. You bastards never changed. The Democratic Plantations must be liberated.

I'm no expert in this, but I don't think you can understand modern Islamism without understanding the thought of Sayyid Qutb, one of the intellectual founders of the movement (or movements, more like).

Not every Islamist group traces its roots to Qutb, but I would argue that he's certainly the most influential recent Islamist theorist. He died in the 1960's IIRC.

His main works are Social Justice in Islam and Milestones Along the Way. Social Justice was written earlier and before he fully developed his radicalism, and Milestones is full blown Islamism.

A good secondary source on Qutb is Adnan Musallam's From Secularism to Jihad: Sayyid Qutb and the Foundations of Modern Islamism.

A general book on the causes, frustrations, etc. that have led to the rise of Islamic extremism, see Michael Mazarr's Unmodern Men in the Modern World: Radical Islam, Terrorism, and the War on Modernity.

I would recommend beginning with Mazarr's book and then moving on to Musallam. After that, you can decide if it's worth your time to read some Qutb.

On social justice in Islam:

Sayyid Qutub wrote an entire book on social justice in Islam.

Here is an article on the topic by Dr. Muhammad Sharif Chaudhry of the University of Punjab.

This is an article on it from Dr. Ali Al-Halawani who studied at Al Azhar.

There are also tons of scholarly articles available online discussing it.

> Why don't you google it before you rant or at least look up Wikipedia

Why don't you just listen to one of Donald Trump's speeches before disagreeing with him? Why don't you just educate yourself?

The reason is that it is not my responsibility to express your belief system for you. What you are really saying is that no one is allowed to disagree with you. You seem to think that Googling "Social Justice" yields all the positive results of your cult but ignore little facts like this book: http://www.amazon.com/Social-Justice-Islam-Revised-Edition/dp/1889999113

Where a founder of the Muslim Brotherhood and a strong influence on Al Queda wrote a book about social justice.

Seems like you didn't Google it. But rather just have lofty ideals that you expect and demand anyone else to have.

> Justice is a really broad term.

It's odd that you would say this but then think that Social Justice is less broad. Justice itself is pretty simple, it's the application of the law doing the right thing. I'm going to go forward and say that the goals of "Social Justice" seem very good and very lofty but they have no means (law) of doing anything right. When Social Justice has become the law, it's openly totalitarian in it's application.

I'm so glad that you used such a great source as Wikipedia. It shows the level of intellect that follows social justice.

Let's compare and contrast your definition of Social Justice to the Khmer Rouge's implementation of it via their constitution:

Social Justice:

> tacit terms for the distribution of wealth

Khmer Rouge:

• > "“every citizen of DK is guaranteed a living,"
  
  
  
  > opportunities for personal activity
  
  Khmer Rouge:
  
  
• > all peasants are the masters of the rice paddies and fields, all workers are the masters of their factories, and all laborers have the right to work.
  
  > Instead of flaunting your ignorance by writing "where social justice gets it wrong",
  
  NO, instead of flaunting YOUR IGNORANCE , maybe you should learn a little history about where your Social Justice Movement gets it wrong and has consistently gotten it wrong.