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u/simsalabimbam · 27 pointsr/keto

Everyone can do it. Here is my advice:

Preparation


  1. Do not jump straight in. First understand what you are doing, why and how it works, and what the risks are. Spend at least a few days on this section.
  2. Keto In A Nutshell contains useful material. Read it.
  3. FAQ Contains a lot of information. Read it, then read it again.
  4. reddit.com/r/keto Contains a lot of real life questions and answers, experiences and support. Search here to see if others have had your question (they probably have).
  5. Watch some YouTube videos on Keto. There's a lot of good stuff there.
  6. Watch some general-audience movies about eating better. I recommend FatHead and That Sugar Film as starting points.
  7. Get a good book. I recommend The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living, and The Big Fat Surprise
  8. Be aware that there is a lot of conflicting information on the internet, and not everyone knows everything.

    Planning

  9. Commit to a 30 day trial period. Weigh yourself and take a candid profile selfie as your starting point. If you want, you can get blood drawn and have the LDL/HDL/Triglyceride values as your starting point.
  10. Give away all the sugar and flour, cereals and pasta you have in your house. You don't need them and they will be temptations.
  11. Consider any trips you have during this time. You will need containers to take your own food with you.
  12. Take a look at /r/mealprepsunday - many people on keto like to do their weekly shopping and preparation at the weekend.
  13. Take a look at the Keto Calculator, play around with it and get your values. Plug these into MyFitnessPal or some other tracker, so that you can track everything you consume.
  14. Think about your habits. Do you drink sugary drinks? Are you a bread addict? What will you do instead? Don't be surprised about this.
  15. Get familiar with the macronutrient content of foods. This site http://nutritiondata.self.com/ helped me.

    Grocery shopping

  16. Green leafy vegetables, cauliflower are always going to be needed
  17. Eggs (fried, scrambled, devilled, poached, boiled...) are your friends
  18. Meats and organ meats of all kinds, especially the fatty cuts are the best.
  19. Butter, ghee, lard, tallow, olive oil are some of your better choices for fats
  20. Many people do well with cheese, greek yogurt, full fat cottage cheese etc.
  21. Bones for making broth
  22. Take a look at (cheap) electrolyte salts for supplementing during your 30day trial.

    Doing

  23. Don't accept meals / cookies / doughnots / cake from family and co-workers. Your response could be "I'm reducing my sugar intake".
  24. Don't go hungry. It will take a few days for the natural satiety of this diet to take effect.
  25. Eat a traditional 3 meals a day. Only skip a meal if you are confident you can make it to the next meal. Don't add additional meals or snacks. Don't get side tracked by all the talk of fasting. Fasting is not mandatory.
  26. Track your food intake honestly in a food tracking app or tool. This includes calories, but is more useful to you as a history of what caused satiety and what caused hunger.
  27. Focus on high fat, low carb food items such as eggs, avocados, meat as being the center of your meal, with veggies filling out the plate for taste and volume.
  28. Never drink anything with calories. You are going to be a tea-totaller during this month. Black coffee and teas are fine, as is water.
  29. You may test your pee with ketostix if you wish, during the initial period, but there are problems with this kind of testing. Also: don't tell us about your results.
  30. keep a journal of your sleeping habits, dream intensity, well-being, energy levels, hunger levels etc.

    Correcting

  31. If things are not going as planned, ask here for advice. Especially:
  32. Skin rashes or zit outbreaks, racing heart, headaches, lethargy.
  33. If you eat something you shouldn't have, don't worry. Figure out what your kryptonite is and plan for a better response next time.

    Good luck!






u/hitssquad · 17 pointsr/todayilearned

Fat makes food taste good.

u/phaseform · 16 pointsr/assholedesign

PSA: the low fat movement is total bs

u/somercet · 15 pointsr/KotakuInAction

> as long as it's the good kind.

Yep, saturated fats from animals.

u/sknick_ · 9 pointsr/nutrition

She has a unique perspective.

She was a vegetarian for 25 years, so she has a ton of personal experience with that way of eating.

Now she is an advocate for the LCHF diet, & has been able to maintain a lower weight in middle age (as well as better blood work) on that diet versus the vegetarian diet.

Her book "The Big Fat Surprise" is not a diet book, but rather a history/research book. The whole book details how we got to the conclusion that dietary fat (& saturated fats) raise cholesterol & cause heart disease, through flawed epidemiological studies & data. She subsequently details why that information is most likely incorrect, & how the resulting low fat diet advice issued by the government has likely led to the obesity crisis we face today.

Reading her book will definitely let you know that she's done her research on the subject. It is extremely detailed to say the least, & takes you through the history of the subject step by step by step....

If you'd like to look at her work in more detail, I'd start by taking a look at these items:

Book

The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet

Most recent OP-ED

NYTimes.com - Counting calories won't reduce obesity. So why are we requiring restaurants to post them?

Videos

ABC Nightline video piece

Joe Rogan Experience podcast - Nina Teicholz


& here is her BIO from her website

>Nina Teicholz is an investigative science journalist and author. Her international bestseller, The Big Fat Surprise has upended the conventional wisdom on dietary fat–especially saturated fat–and challenged the very core of our nutrition policy.


>The executive editor of “The Lancet” wrote, “this is a disquieting book about scientific incompetence, evangelical ambition, and ruthless silencing of dissent that has shaped our lives for decades…researchers, clinicians, and health policy advisors should read this provocative book.”


>A review in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition said, “This book should be read by every scientist…[and] every nutritional science professional.”


>In the BMJ (British Medical Journal), the journal’s former editor wrote, “Teicholz has done a remarkable job in analysing [the] weak science, strong personalities, vested interests, and political expediency” of nutrition science.


>The Big Fat Surprise was named a 2014 Best Book by The Economist, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Mother Jones, and Library Journal. Teicholz’s writing has also been published in The BMJ, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, The Independent, The New Yorker, and The Los Angeles Times among others.


>In addition to these credentials, Teicholz is the Executive Director of The Nutrition Coalition, a non-profit group that promotes evidence-based nutrition policy. She has testified before the Canadian Senate and U.S. Department of Agriculture about the need for reform of dietary guidelines.


>Teicholz attended Yale and Stanford where she studied biology and majored in American Studies. She has a master’s degree from Oxford University and served as associate director of the Center for Globalization and Sustainable Development at Columbia University. A former vegetarian of 25+ years, from Berkeley, CA, Teicholz now lives in New York city with her husband and two sons.

u/UserID_3425 · 7 pointsr/ketoscience

It sounds more like you should get a basic understanding of current nutrition science, and what keto is in general.

Recommended reading:

u/fillthesavage · 7 pointsr/explainlikeimfive

The thrust is that we don't really understand human nutrition, and the attempts at doing honest, scientific research on nutrition through the 20th century has been bogged down in prejudice and confirmation bias, as well as good-intentions.

For a longer answer, I highly recommend [The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz]. (https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624433/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483752210&sr=8-1&keywords=the+big+fat)

It is an extraordinary piece of journalism about nutrition science through the 20th century. It focuses on how we came to vilify fat of all kinds, but it is extremely illuminating about how nutrition science itself has functioned (and malfunctioned). It clearly explains how the field has become so muddled with information, how it is currently trying to self-correct, and how the reader can be better informed about understanding health claims.

Although, I don't strictly think a five-year old could read the book. At least, not your average five-year old....

u/peppermint-kiss · 5 pointsr/keto

My advice:

  1. Drink coffee with a sugar substitute (I like Splenda, it functions and tastes exactly like sugar) and a dash of heavy whipping cream (you don't need much to lighten the coffee up a lot).
  2. Diet soda - any kind - is fine.
  3. Watch this video for an "Explain Like I'm Five" approach.

    Bonus advice:

  • Only weigh yourself once a week.
  • If you weigh yourself two weeks in a row and you haven't lost any weight, make sure you're counting your carbs. 50g is the max, 20g is the ideal. So maybe say, "Okay I will only have 35g of carbs a day" and try that for two weeks and see if it starts the weight loss back up again. If not, lower them.
  • If you've lowered your carbs down to 15 or 20g and you're still stalled, try limiting the diet soda. Maybe two cans/day for two weeks, then one can/day.
  • If you're still not losing, cut the soda out completely. For some people, it triggers insulin secretion even though there aren't any carbs in it, and high levels of insulin can stall fat burning.
  • If cutting the soda out doesn't help, cut all artificial sweeteners.
  • Next step would be to start limiting dairy. Then perhaps caffeine and/or nuts.

    I'm a big fan of the "slow and steady" approach. Make little changes, take some time, observe how it affects you. There's no rush to dump weight off; it's more likely to be permanent if you're not obsessing and just "keeping calm and ketoing on".

    Bonus resources, if you want to have a deeper understanding:

  • Why We Get Fat is my favorite intro book.
  • The Art & Science of Low Carbohydrate Living is a very thorough explanation of the diet.
  • The Big Fat Surprise explains why scientists and public health officials act like fat is bad for you, even though the scientific evidence doesn't support that belief.
  • Good Calories, Bad Calories is a more detailed & scientific version of Why We Get Fat
  • New Atkins for a New You is a very easy-to-follow instructional guide if that's what you need (written by Eric Westman, the doctor in the video I linked above).
  • Here is a list of great keto videos to watch.
u/schmosef · 4 pointsr/carnivore

Everything sold as a "vegetable oil" is really a seed oil.

To OP's point, they are highly inflammatory and quickly become rancid when exposed to light and/or heat.

Most of these seed oils are extracted using industrial processes that are relatively new (less than 150 years old).

We just didn't evolve eating them, so we aren't adapted to process them as efficiently as animal fat.

"Fruit oils" like avocado, olive and coconut, are generally better for you.

Further, if you're eating a plant, like broccoli, you're only eating trace amounts of fat. My prior post was to clarify OP's point because the post responding to him was conflating eating plants (which also may not be good for you) with his real point about avoiding seed oils.

Animal fat, is much healthier. And fat from ruminant animals like cows, lamb, etc, is the best, because it contains all the right sub components (Omega fatty acids, etc.) in the correct ratios.

Nina Teicholz breaks it all down in this video.

u/beowulfpt · 4 pointsr/Futurology

Some book shopping is heavily recommended. A matter of health.

u/Scarykidscaringkids · 4 pointsr/keto

If you want to know the science as well as anecdotal evidence supporting low carb and against the Standard American Diet, here's a list of books for you to read:

u/RightfullySqualid · 3 pointsr/AntiVegan

On youtube, Cultivate Health and Beauty. It's targeted towards women and their channel is not about being anti-vegan, but they are pretty anti-vegan. Also Primal Edge Health. I watch Sv3ridge for the exvegan videos and the Epitomy of Malnourishment videos but be careful in venturing to anything outside of that. For podcasts, listen to Bulletproof Radio, Fitness Confidential, The Paleo Solution, Primal Blueprint Podcast. For books, The Vegetarian Myth and the works of Weston A. Price. Look for people with an internet presence who are paleo. Most a very educated about veganism. Nina Teicholz work is worth mentioning too. She did a great breakdown of all the problems with that piece of propaganda "documentary" What the Health.

u/HarryBiscuit · 3 pointsr/keto

For criticism, I recommend The Big Fat Surprise.

u/mrdumbphone · 2 pointsr/keto

Ignore mainstream nutrition. If you're interested some books are The Big Fat Surprise, The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living, either of Taubes' books, or you can watch Youtube lectures by Phinney, Volek, Taubes etc. This page is also fairly good on fats.

Fats are extraordinarily complicated in structure, oil composition, metabolism, etc. The best bet is to eat older fats and not newer processed oils because we quite literally evolved eating animal fats exclusively, not shortening hydrogenated from the refined oil extracted from the unused excess seeds that fell out of cotton plants.

Omega 3:

  • Omega 3 and Omega 6 are both required to be ingested by the body as we have no metabolic way of creating them (whereas Omega 9 can be created from Saturated Fat).
  • They should be consumed in a one to one ratio, which is the ratio found in grass fed animal fats, eggs, milk, butter.
  • It is important to note that the need for these essential fatty acids is relatively small, so in the case that you're consuming 80% of your calories from fat you should primarily worry about the ratio of the fatty acids in your food (IE eat animal fats). You can overdo Omega 3 consumption if you consume an excess of fish oil supplements in addition to fortified foods etc.
  • The so-called "polyunsaturated oils" like soybean, cottonseed (commonly called "Vegetable"), rapeseed (commonly called "Canola) etc are very high in Omega 6 while being low in Omega 3. The result is that most people in the US consume vastly more Omega 6 than Omega 3, and studies have shown that many inflamation markers and chronic diseases are improved as that dietary ratio moves closer to 1:1.
  • Grain fed livestock is much higher in Omega 6 than Omega 3, just like the so-called polyunsaturated oils.
  • Lard is fairly high in Oleic Acid, the monounsatured fatty acid that Olive Oil gets all the praise for.
u/ReverseLazarus · 2 pointsr/keto

I loved this book.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1451624433?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title

And this one, as well.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1400033462?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title

I haven't read any books on IF, but the transformation my body went through was enough for me on that front. 😊

u/Captain_Midnight · 2 pointsr/keto

Before you start reducing your fat intake and letting carbs back in, there's a book I recommend you check out first. The relationship that carbs and fat have with your body is about more than just weight loss or satiation. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

u/sassytaters · 1 pointr/keto

Get this book and all your fears will be allayed. They will be replaced by a whole new set of fears. https://smile.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624433

u/saturnsearth · 1 pointr/intermittentfasting

Read The Big Fat Surprise and learn.

It has a ton of documentation, and rips the cover off the lies we were told about fat. It speaks plainly of the lies in studies and the skewed reporting of studies (especially Ancel Keys, who only reported data on the countries that fit his predetermined "truth").

In essence, mostly at the insistence of Ancel Keys, the United States embarked on a human experiment. Fat use went down, carb (especially sugar) consumption rose. So did heart disease and other diseases.

u/mnemosyne-0002 · 1 pointr/KotakuInAction

Archives for the links in comments:

u/Will_Power · 1 pointr/climateskeptics

I've seen this conversation going on for some time, but haven't read all of it. This is the second time, though, that I've seen you push the long debunked idea that eating meat leads to heart disease. There's simply no truth to it. Heart disease results from elevated blood sugar and insulin binding to it. Here's a pretty accessible article on it: http://preventdisease.com/news/12/030112_World-Renown-Heart-Surgeon-Speaks-Out-On-What-Really-Causes-Heart-Disease.shtml

You are trying to perpetuate the same fraud that Ancel Keys pushed all those years ago that has been widely debunked. I recommend Good Calories, Bad Calories from Gary Taubes (or any of his YouTube lectures). I also recommend The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz.

u/MoleMcHenry · 1 pointr/askgaybros

I'm going to use this comment, since it's at the top, to show you how you're not trying to actually understand. Calories in < calories out = weight loss isn't how that works since 100 calories of broccoli is not equal to 100 calories of a donut.

Books such as The Calorie Myth and Why We Get Fat and The Big fat Surprise very clearly and scientifically explain why eating an excess of calories (aka calories in/calories out) isn't what makes you fat. Through out this thread all you can say is eat less and stop putting food in your mouth. But that's not even it. That's your interpretation of fat people. Your interpretation is skewed.

u/Gp626 · 0 pointsr/Fitness

>A Harvard epidemiologist named Ancel Keys fabricated some data linking heart disease to saturated fat intake. Taubes refers to this as the “Lipid Hypothesis”2 and was able to convince many scientists, the media, the public, non-governmental organizations (such as the AMA & AHA), and ultimately policy-makers at the highest levels of government to accept his flawed ideas.

This one is verifiably correct.


>Contrary to mainstream thinking saturated fats, especially those coming from animal sources are actually quite good for you.

Largely correct

>Most diseases of modern civilization including obesity and cancer can be attributed to carbohydrates.

Obesity ==> Sugar? Maybe. Refined carbohydrate? Maybe. All carbohydrates? No. Most diseases? No evidence. Cancer? No evidence

>Consuming excess calories does not make one fat, nor do burning excess calories make one thin.

That one is not true. But Taubes often overstates this position to get copy and make headlines. His nuanced position has, I think, has more validity.

His third book on the subject "The case against sugar" is much less "out there" and tougher to debunk. He shares the same sugar views as Robert Lustig who I do rate. 'Fat Chance' is a good book, and I am looking forward to "The Hacking of the American Mind - Sugar coated Happiness"

Another book that is epically well researched and has not been dubunked is The Big Fat Surprise

Here is the President of the World Heart Federation, and world-renowned cardiologist and epidemiologist discussing recent data and mentioning the book (worth watching the full 20mins)