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Caodong has nothing to do with Dogen. Dogen wanted to start his own religion, and Caodong was famous but not well known in Japan, so Dogen announced he was a Caodong/Soto Master, when really he was just trying to start a Tendai Buddhist cult.
The first Caodong Master was Dongshan, his sayings are collected in https://www.amazon.com/Record-Tung-Shan-Classics-Asian-Buddhism/dp/0824810708/.
A much later Caodong Master named Wansong was one of the few Zen Masters to write a book about Zen himself, and that book is called The Book of Serenity: https://www.amazon.com/Book-Serenity-One-Hundred-Dialogues/dp/1590302494/
Dogen Buddhism has a history of plagiarizing, and some of Dogen's followers have take Wansong's title and the Cases that Wansong discusses, removed Wansong's teachings, and republished the book with Dogen's teachings instead, so watch out for that.
Lol, the way amazon pays it's workers I would not put it past them to accept payment in children. That's nothing, I'm collecting all the important books in the Zen lineage...look at this one. How very expensive!
I think I may buy the ebook and bind it myself.
Good luck!
> Well it isn't only books
Yes it is. Here, I'll copy and paste the whole damn thing:
Sayings of Zen Master Joshu- Green Translation
Joshu (Zhaozhou) is known for his short, one or two sentences answers to questions about Zen study.
Mumonkan, a book of instruction, poetry and Cases for novices written by Zen Master Mumon (Wumen)
Perhaps the single most famous Zen text, it is an alarmingly short book, made more alarming by it's lack of instruction and complexity.
R.H. Blyth's Zen and Zen Classics series, particularly volumes 2, 3, and 4 (Mumonkan), are essential texts for anyone new to Zen. These books are out of print, the Japanese publisher has gone out of business, but sites like Terebess.hu hosts electronic copies and random Redditors may also be able to direct you to electronic versions.
Zen Teaching of Huang Po
For anyone familiar with Buddhist doctrines, Huangbo's sayings and lectures serve as an excellent introduction to Zen and how Zen is incompatible with Buddhism.
Give it up for the Legendary Yunmen! Back in Print! Still short, pithy, and smack talky! http://www.amazon.com/Master-Yunmen-From-Record-Clouds/dp/1568360053
R.H. Blyth: Zen and Zen Classics, Volume 2: Huineng to Yunmen
R.H. Blyth: Zen and Zen Classics, Volume 3: Dongshan and Mazu and their heirs
R.H. Blyth: Zen and Zen Classics, Volume 4: Munonkan (Wumenguan), The penultiment Zen text
In order of the complexity of the language, references, constructions from less to more.
Sayings texts, Zhaozhou (Joshu), Yunmen (Ummon), the book by Wumen (Mumon) called The Gateless Gate. Also the poem by the 3rd Patriarh, Faith In Mind.
The sayings with lectures texts, Foyan and after that, Huangbo (Huang Po).
The books written by Zen Masters Yuanwu (Blue Cliff Record) and Wansong (Book of Serenity, Cleary trans.)
The Platform Sutra, the bodhidharma attributed texts, stuff from Dunhuang.
Mumonkan, a book of instruction, poetry and Cases for novices written by Zen Master Mumon (Wumen) and a poorer translation w/ Chinese
Perhaps the single most famous Zen text it is an alarming short book, made more alarming by it's lack of instruction and complexity.
Book of Serenity
Written by Wansong, this is the definitive text on the Caodong lineage. Buddhist priests in the last few decades have been trying to republish the book deleting Wansong's text and inserting religious sermons.
Blue Cliff Record
Written by Yuanwu, this is very long and very famous book of Zen instruction, Cases and poems in the same format as Book of Serenity.
Foyan - Instant Zen
Mumonkan
Yunmen
Huangbo
Foyan - Instant Zen
Yunmen
Joshu (Zhaozhou)
Layman Pang
Yunmen
(especially if you skip right to the Zen sections)
Foyan - Instant Zen - Instant Zen
Mazu - Sun Face Buddha
Zhaozhou - Sayings of Zen Master Joshu
Scholarship:
Bielefeldt's Dogen's Manuals of Zen Meditation: Dogen didn't study Zen, Dogen invented Zazen prayer-meditation, Dogen was a fraud and a plagiarist.
The Sound of One Hand, Hoffmann tras.: Hakuin's "answer key" to Zen koans, kept secret until publication in 1918, provides the answers monks have to give to get certified by the Rinzai church.
Pruning The Bodhi Tree: A collection of essays about the doctrinal basis of Japanese Buddhism, the irreconcilable conflicts with Zen, and the attempt at a Critical Buddhist reformation.
The Zen Doctrine of No-Mind by D.T. Suzuki. Exploring why "Zen" never meant "meditation"
https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.57108/2015.57108.Zen-Doctrine-Of-No-Mind_djvu.txt
See also r/zen/wiki/dhyana
Dahui's Shobogenzo, Vol. 1-2:
Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/Treasury-Eye-True-Teaching-I-ebook/dp/B01N3BJK1Y/
Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/Treasury-Eye-True-Teaching-II-ebook/dp/B06XPMTL23/
Blue Cliff Record, Cleary trans.
Book of Serenity, Cleary trans.
Wansong's Book of Serenity, translated by Cleary https://www.amazon.com/Book-Serenity-One-Hundred-Dialogues/dp/1570623813
Book of Serenity was written by Wansong himself
Other books having that title are not Zen texts, regardless of religious claims
Dongshan's Recorded Sayings of Tung-shan. https://www.amazon.com/Record-Tung-Shan-Classics-Asian-Buddhism/dp/0824810708
Dongshan, aka Tung-shan, was the first Caodong Master. Caodong comes from "Caoshan + Dongshan". Caoshan was one of Dongshan's dharma heirs.
Zen and Zen Classics, Vol. 3, by R.H. Blyth
http://www.amazon.com/Record-Tung-Shan-Classics-Asian-Buddhism/dp/0824810708
was what I was hoping to get.
But thanks, I will look into this newer one