Reddit mentions of Thrustmaster TMX Force Feedback racing wheel for Xbox One and WINDOWS

Are you on PC? Is the Thrustmaster T150 (PC and PS4) or Thrustmaster TMX (PC and Xbox one) too expensive? This is as budget as I'd go if you want brand new. The downside is you only get two pedals but do have paddle shifters. If this is too pricy try searching craigslist around your area for any used Logitech Driving Force GT's (two pedals, no h-shifter, but has a sequential shifter), or a Logitech g27 (three pedals, comes with h-shifter).

If you do want three pedals and an h-shifter, then I think the Logitech g29 (PC and PS4) or Logitech g920 (PC and Xbox one) are the current best value as far as brand new. With craigslist you can possibly find better deals locally, but it can be a crapshoot.

What system you play on is beside the point. Let's see what we can plan out for you.

I'm basing this off of your other comment's projected budget, $500 - $1000.

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First and foremost, your wheel and pedals. Whether you start with your cockpit/wheelstand or wheel is mostly up to preference, but I'd start with a wheel first, since a wheel clamped to a desk with pedals on a floor is the minimum of simracing, whilst a rig with no wheel is just a glorified gaming seat. Plus, what you get first sets the budget of what comes after it, and I wouldn't prioritize an expensive rig over a good wheel.

Anyway, where you go from here pretty much depends on how much you're looking to spend. If your budget is $500 - $1000 and you're looking to get a whole setup going, I'd keep the wheel+pedal spending to $500 or less. This will leave you with a decent amount of wiggle room for rigs and accessories. All of the suggested wheels are compatible with Xbox One.

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Wheels and Pedals

• Thrustmaster TMX
  
  A budget wheel if there ever was one. It's by no means a bad wheel, for $200. It has reasonably strong FFB and similar build to its more expensive counterpart, the TX. Though with a brushed motor and belt-gear hybrid system, it's not as strong nor as smooth as the TX. As someone who's tried its PlayStation counterpart (the T150, basically the same base with a slightly different rim), I'd say it's 75% the quality for 50% the price. If you're on a strict budget and know you'll be on one for a while, it's a pretty good deal.
  
  ^(NOTE: As of writing this, it's currently on sale for $160!)
  
  
• Thrustmaster TMX Pro
  
  If you're planning to drive with an H-gate shifter in the future, then this version of the TMX is a good deal. Instead of the standard 2-pedal Thrustmaster set, it comes with Thrustmater's T3PA Pedals. On top of getting a clutch pedal, it includes a conical brake mod, designed to give more tension to your brake pedal and allow you to better control braking. Plus, in just about any wheel-supported Xbox One game you can map the brake to the clutch and put the conical brake mod behind it, giving your legs more room if you're not using an H-gate shifter. Though if you know you never want to use an H-gate, it might be better value to just get the standard TMX and use a DIY solution for modding the brake.
  
  
• Thrustmaster TX
  
  In case you're wondering, yes, it comes with Ferrari branding as standard. Anyway, this is arguably the best bang-for-your-buck. TX TX's rim is interchangeable, so if you're not a fan of the stock one, you can replace it with another Thrustmaster rim of your choosing. On top of that, its belt-driven FFB system is a bit stronger and considerably smoother than the TMX, not to mention that it's hard mountable (is able to be screwed-in to a rig instead of needing a clamp). While some get the TMX as a starter wheel and upgrade later, this wheel is often people's one-stop for sim racing, since it's just that good.
  
  ^(NOTE: You really picked the best time to get into sim racing, this wheel is only $257 as of writing this! $400 is a decent price for this wheel but the current price is an absolute steal.)
  
  
• Thrustmaster TX Leather Edition
  
  Similarly to the TMX, this is Thrustmaster's step-up version of the wheel; not only does it include a special black version of the T3PA pedals, it also includes a much better rim. While its style is more akin to the TMX, its rim is made from a metal frame, making it feel more solid than the TMX and standard TX plastic rims, and is wrapped in a nice leather instead of rubber. For only $67 more than the standard TX, it's a significant savings over buying the parts separately.
  
  
• Fanatec CSL Elite
  
  This is the premium class of wheels, for the most part. Fanatec's hardware is generally only built from the best of materials and offer some of the best performance, along with being open to Fanatec's wider, more advanced selection of parts and accessories. However, unlike most wheel bases, this is only the wheel base, no rim or pedals included. If you want Fanatec's base CSL offerings for a rim and pedals, the price jumps to about $470, the same price as the TX, but that's only with two pedals. If you want their 3-pedal base instead, the price jumps up to $590, and if you want a GT style rim instead, you're already over $600 with the 2-pedal set, $700 with the 3-pedal set. Fanatec's gear is top-quality, but it comes at a price. Is the bit of extra quality worth the prices that the parts quickly add up to? That's subjective. At the very least, I wouldn't recommend Fanatec Gear if you're on a budget, but maybe consider it for the future.
  
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  Rigs and More
  
  There are some Xbox One wheels for you to consider. I hope my explanations made sense, I wanted to make sure to convey the different aspects of each wheel so you could better make a decision.
  
  If you want my personal recommendation though, I'd say the TX, especially since it's on sale. $250 for that base is a great price, it's a near-perfect balance of budget with performance.
  
  Next on the list, a rig. If we're assuming that you're willing to reach towards the upper-end of your budget, then continuing here after you get your wheel is a no-brainer. Having a dedicated place to secure your wheel and mount your pedals makes for a far better experience than sitting at a table, especially if you're playing in front of a TV.
  
  Keep in mind that there are two types of rigs, wheel stands and cockpits. Wheelstands are only meant to mount your wheel and pedals, where you sit is up to you. They're designed to be foldable and easy to carry, making them perfect for playing in front of the living room TV or using in a small apartment. Dedicated cockpits take things to the next level, securing your seat to the wheel and pedals means that you won't have to worry about anything sliding around, and makes things more comfortable overall.
  
  As much as I want to continue though, there are many, many great options to choose from and reddit has a length limit on comments. For more information on building your rig, you can check out the r/Simracing Buyer's Guide in the wiki. It includes everything wheels and rigs to accessories and monitor mounts.
  
  Cheers, and let me know if you have any questions.

Just spend about $10 more dollars, and get a Thrustmaster T150 setup. It's what I started with this go round in sim racing, and it's great for the cost.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1540175686&sr=8-4&keywords=thrustmaster+t150

I'm not sure how much research you've done but you don't just "get" iRacing, iRacing is very much an investment. You have to pay a monthly subscription, along with buying each track and car separately (car: $11.95 track: $14.95) There are free cars and tracks but those will only get you out of the rookie series before you have to pay. I think you should stay away from the Laptop scene and lean more towards building your own machine with your father. If you want to get the full experience out of iRacing you'll want a 900° Force Feedback wheel. The cheapest one is the TMX from Thrustmaster for $150, usually $200. If you want to continue to upgrade, you can do so with their pedals and other wheels.

Hello OP!

From your post and comments, I've gathered that you only need 2 pedals, don't need an H-pattern shifter, and play on the Xbox platform.

Assuming you need your wheel + pedals shipped for $500 AUS, (that's $358 USD, plus shipping costs more for Australia), you actually don't have too many options at all.

If I were to rank all available racing wheels right now, the cheapest level would be the ones without force-feedback. This would include Thrustmaster's T80 and Ferrari 458 Spider Racing Wheel, as well as the Hori Apex. All of these wheels are complete shit, not to sound harsh.

LEVEL 1

The first level of wheels that are good are the ones with gear driven or gear/belt hybrid force feedback. This means that when motors turn the wheel to provide information about traction or oversteer (examples), it may feel "notchy" and loud. They still get the job done. When only listing ones compatible with the Xbox One, these include:

Logitech G29 ($400 AUS + free shipping) - has 3 pedals and comfortable grip, but very bad gear-driven force-feedback

Thrustmaster TMX ($240.83 AUS + $90.13 shipping = $320 AUS) - has 2 pedals, which you say is O.K. Has better force-feedback with a hybrid belt drive/gear driven combo. It is cheaper than Logitech because Logitech is so popular. Do not be fooled, this is an objectively better wheel in almost every way.

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LEVEL 2

The second level of wheels are the ones that are only belt-driven. These are much smoother quieter, and detailed than Level 1 wheels. When only listing ones compatible with the Xbox One, there is only one wheel base:

Thrustmaster TX Servo Base ($358.41 AUS + $58.30 shipping = $416 AUS)

However, the TX allows switching of wheel rims. You can buy the base by itself (above) and need to buy an individual wheel rim, or you can buy it in a set with pedals and a rim. The only option here seems to be getting a set, since buying the individual parts would be too costly. You've got two options here for a bundle:

Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition ($559 AUS + free shipping)

Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Leather Edition Premium ($699.95 AUS + free shipping)

While both wheels are mechanically identical, I would have to recommend the Leather edition. It comes with a much higher quality wheel rim (leather and not rubber) and also has a much more durable pedal set (3 pedals with metal plates). Still, the Italia edition TX would be a good choice if you can't spend the extra money. It is better than the G29 and TMX.

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LEVEL 3

Since I saw you talking to some other users about the Fanatec CSL Elite, I might as well discuss these wheels despite it being outside your price range. The Level 3 wheels all use belt-drive systems as well, but are smoother, faster, and quieter than their Level 2 counterparts.

Fanatec Xbox One Competition Pack ($1,109.90 AUS + ??? shipping)

Thrustmaster TS-XW Racer Sparco P310 ($1,099 AUS + ??? shipping)

Both wheels cost around the same and are mechanically almost identical. However, the Thrustmaster has a nicer rim (in my opinion) and has 3 pedals. Still, you should decide this on your own.

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I hope this helped a great deal, and have fun with whatever wheel you choose! Cheers

I posted this above, It can be cheap but if you want something that feels right.. it's not so cheap.

>[Thrustmaster](https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1537753451&sr=1-4&keywords=thrustmaster+steering+wheel+pc&dpID=51bn3uOuWAL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
) on amazon is $160. It comes with pedals. But honestly after a month I upgraded to much better pedals and then bought a shifter ended up costing me over $400 by the end of it all lol. You can get away with just the wheel and default pedals though.

it's a matter of price in the end, but here's my ramblings.

The Logitech path sets you back $300 for a complete set.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Dual-Motor-Feedback-Driving-Responsive/dp/B016JBE8LU/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1539590704&sr=1-4&keywords=logitech%2Bg29&th=1

However, there's no upgrade path from there, and if you decide to eventually upgrade to another wheel, you'll need an adapter for both the pedals and the shifter. Additionally, the FFB is not as good as the T300RS or equivalent systems and the shifter is worse than the TH8A, and is 6+R, not 7+R.

The Thrustmaster equivalent would be a T300RS or TX System (they are apparently equivalent).
Including the Shifter, it sets you back about $550.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-Leather-Premium-Official/dp/B0151K6FPC/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1539590463&sr=1-1&keywords=thrustmaster%2Btx&th=1

Comparing to the Logitech, the FFB is better. From what I've heard, the pedals are similar in quality.

I've used the G27 shifter and I own the TH8A and the thrustmaster is quite a bit better, and can be put in sequential mode as well. Additionally, it can be used as an analogue handbrake, which is pretty cool for the price. The shifter can also be connected by USB, so that's a component you'd be able to keep should you decide to upgrade in the future.

Also, Thrustmaster makes a variety of bases, some more high-end than what you're looking at, so you'd have an upgrade path without switching manufacturers and having to find a solution for pedals.

As for the TMX Pro, the wheel + the T3pa pedals + the shifter cost around $415. (look at the proposed sets)

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1539591097&sr=1-3&keywords=thrustmaster+tmx+pro

However, I would not buy the T3pa's separately. If you buy separate pedals, I'd go for the Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Loadcell Brake. They are more expensive, but a lot better and have USB connectivity, should you switch manufacturers in the future.

https://www.fanatec.com/us-en/pedals/csl-elite-pedals-lc-usa.html


I hope I've not confused you too much.

In conclusion:

Logitech
-> Ok Force Feedback, Ok Pedals, Meh Shifter $300 | No Upgrade Path


T300 (VG TX) incl T3pa + TH8A
-> Good Force Feedback, Ok Pedals, Good Shifter $550 | Upgrade Path for Wheel base/Rims


TMX Pro + Fanatec CSL Elite LC + TH8A ->
Ok Force Feedback, Great Pedals, Good Shifter $550 | Upgrade Path unlimited, all separately connected via USB.

All that said, it depends a lot on how serious you want to get. If you already know that you're not going to go full sim-racing, the Logitech is going to be plenty good enough for you.

However, if you want to start sim-racing seriously, and are looking at games such as iRacing, RaceRoom, rFactor, pCars, Assetto Corsa and the like, good pedals make you quicker than good wheels

Can easily do it for around $200, but you'll be wanting to be spending at least that much on individual components by year end. This rabbit hole is a dark, and very very deep one ;)

Thrustmaster T150 for ~$150

G29 for ~$200

TMX by itself for ~$180 but you need to buy pedals/shifter by itself

Ah I know that feeling. I'm on console unfortunately. Bought it to game with my cousins and they stopped playing. Will upgrade to PC once I move out of my parents house and get my own place.

There is a new Thrustmaster wheel that just came out that is 200 dollars and has FFB.. It looks decent. I'd still upgrade to the TP3A pedals and get the TH8A shifter to complete that set up.

Yeah, the shifter is a sequential shifter only and there is no clutch pedal. The G27 included an H shifter and a clutch pedal, and the pedals themselves were of much higher quality than the DFGT pedals and it all would sell as low as $200 new when it was still being made, hence why I would typically recommend that as the starting point. With how Logitech decided to price its successor without actually improving anything, I just can't recommend buying Logitech wheels anymore.

The Thrustmaster TMX would be the Thrustmaster equivalent of the DFGT and the T300 is what I would consider to be competing with the G27/G29, but the Thrustmaster wheel is much higher quality for the price you're paying.

Does the TMX count? -$134.64 at Amazon

Cheapest one with Force Feedback is around $200.

You can get this one or this one.

Both work for PC.

I use this wheel for the Xbox One. I think it's the cheapest one that has force feedback https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1510142967&sr=8-4&keywords=xbox+one+wheel&dpID=51cUr17W4wL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Thrustmaster T150 FFB Wheel comes with a set of cheap pedals. You can sometimes find it on sale for under $200. It is a PS4 wheel, that is also compatible with PC. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-Racing-PlayStation-4/dp/B014US02ZA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1518146633&sr=8-2&keywords=t150&th=1

They also make the model TMX that is for XBOX and PC. also $200 https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1518146633&sr=8-6&keywords=t150

$166 on Amazon but ships in 1 to 3 weeks and also is their frustration free packaging not retail box. https://amzn.com/B01CI97DNM

It's 199.99 at MS Store or Gamestop.

https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Thrustmaster-TMX-Force-Feedback-Racing-Wheel-for-Xbox-One-and-PCs/productID.1033064100

http://www.gamestop.com/accessories/tmx-force-feedback-wheel/129787

Edit: Wanted to add that if for some reason you can no longer get it that cheaply on AMazon and you have to pay the full 199.99 then the 250.00 gamestop deal becomes more of a deal as the fancy pedals that come with that version are 100.00 on their own.

Any driving games for VR that can use one of these?

I don't actually own one but if there are some games like that I might just bolt the old car seat I have lying around to some wood and order one.

Thrustmaster TMX Force Feedback racing wheel for Xbox One and Windows is currently on sale at Amazon for $141.64, cheapest ever from Amazon. I'd had it on my wishlist for a long time and couldn't resist when I saw the price today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CI97DNM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

so you'd suggest the below configuration over the Logitech one? Is there a reason I should stay away from Logitech?

Wheel

shift

seat

Unfortunately, the Ferrari Thrustmaster wheel is going to be the best you can do unless you're willing to hit $200 for something that will last more than a year, in which case this will be worth the $50 additional spent AND work on PC: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1478810850&sr=1-2&keywords=xbox+one+racing+wheel

As it stands, I had the Spyder wheel for about a year before upgrading. It did not decide to play nice with my Windows 10 PC despite trying to run third party programs to recognize it, but for Xbox One it was more than serviceable. My biggest issues were the bungee cord system within the wheel, which will misalign the wheel over time as the cords wear out (its like having a real life misalignment!), and that the pads on the pedals to keep it from skidding were absolutely piss poor. Carpeting, laminated wood, plastic, you name it - you will want to invest a few bucks in rubber feet adhesive or otherwise to get it still. The shifter buttons as well are immensely clicky, and keeping the base stable with the screw system for desks and mounts is inconsistent and unstable without really pressing it against the desk. With this all said, when you get it all working, it is definitely worth the money, and I've been able to put down some top times on the DiRT Rally boards, alongside enjoying Project Cars and Assetto Corsa. The wheel has plenty of grip for your hands, the pedals have plenty of travel with bearable deadzone, and while it lacks feedback, it does follow 1:1 motion fairly well with minimal input lag.

Simply put, if your son plays racing games more than anything else and quite often during a week, I'd invest the extra money. If not, this will get the job done with a little tweaking and something along the lines of a dedicated desk/table to mount it own. Hope this helps.

I have no words for this. This has to be the best giveaway I have ever seen. At this point I'm more curious to the profit you made then actually entering this giveaway! I hope that one day I can do something this big, but as of now life is expensive.

I seriously have no clue what to ask for. Of course I have some big wishes and such, but I'm gonna ask for something small. Well.. small compared to the other requests :D

I love driving games and I have been playing a lot of American Truck Simulator lately, but I'm stuck with my controller or keyboard. I would love to make an upgrade. Using an actual steering wheel, pedals and maybe even shifting gears would make my experience a lot better.

I would be happy with this one: Thrustmaster Force Wheel

But if you feel really generous the Logitech G27 Racing Wheel would most likely make me cry out happiness!

Whether I don't win or not doesn't even matter. What you are doing is something I haven't experienced on the internet before and I have been here for quite some years now! So once again thank you for doing this and I wish you the best in life!

I am currently debating between two wheel bundles atm.

Logitech G920 Driving Force Racing Wheel + Logitech G Driving Force Shifter Bundle for $328

Or

Thrustmaster TMX Force Feedback racing wheel for Xbox One and WINDOWS for $189

This will be my first sim racing setup so I am wondering what you would recommend.

1. Yes
   
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3. There isn't one. https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1538012660&sr=1-3&keywords=Thrustmaster The Thrustmaster TMX might be your best bet, but it doesn't have an H-Shifter or a clutch pedal.

Gaming rig that can run iRacing at full bore

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-Computer-690-0020/dp/B07BHXV3TJ/ref=dp_ob_title_ce $630

Wheel.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1559195389&sr=1-2 $150

but if you have a console (PS4 or Xbox One) wheel, it should work fine with Windows....just gotta download the drivers for it. if its a G29 or G920 then it should work fine, just download the drivers.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=asc_df_B01CI97DNM/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312146819208&hvpos=1o5&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2457851348657468689&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001925&hvtargid=pla-382565491643&psc=1 cheaper

They do make the TMX which is designed for the Xbox one, but I have never driven it. Link

I am pretty happy with my TMX.
https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=thrustmaster+tmx&qid=1564761266&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

I wore out the pedals fairly quickly though so I also purchased the T3PA upgrade pedals for $80.

For those interested, here is the link to the Amazon store page for the TMX wheel:
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463898980&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+tmx

Here are the pedals mentioned in the video:
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T3PA-3-Pedal-Pedal-xbox-one/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1463899044&sr=8-2&keywords=thrustmaster+pedals

Thanks Price History Bot!

Whatcha got on the following:

Thrustmaster TMX
Logitech g27
Logitech g920
Thrustmaster T150

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1473101174&sr=8-6&keywords=t150

Used G27 if you can though, as the pedals are better and comes with a H Shifter

I think you might end up disappointed with that. The TMX would probably be a better choice if you are going to use it much: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Force-Feedback-racing-wheel-WINDOWS/dp/B01CI97DNM

Totally agreed. He's not my favorite either so I know what you mean. Hopefully 2021 shakes things up

For simracing I'd say the cost of entry for a setup you're going to enjoy would be something like a Logitech G29 or a thrustmaster tmx. I entered with a TMX and still use it, though I've upgraded the pedals since then and added an H pattern shifter. A G29 can be had on Amazon for $200 and will give you everything you absolutely need, and you can just clamp it to your desk.

I just checked on Amazon and [this TMX ](http://www.Thrustmaster.com/ TMX Force Feedback racing wheel for Xbox One and WINDOWS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_m38kDbWMZVMMC) is $126 with free shipping. That's an insane deal. The pedals it'll come with are...not the best, but those can be easily and affordably upgraded. I've been using the TMX wheel for a couple years and it's held up remarkably well. The only downside is that you're not gonna have a clutch pedal. I'm assuming you're going to be more interested in formula style cars where it's less of an issue, but it's something to consider

There are a bunch of wheels and sets for about every price point above that but I'd personally suggest starting with one of those and then just having fun until you decide you wanna upgrade to a buy it once type of device. That's what I'm working on right now. Just don't get intimidated by some of the gear you see on the simracing subreddit or forums. You can spend as much as you want, but mostly you just pay for immersion. Just because someone has a $1,200 sequential shifter doesn't mean they're any faster

G25 USB adapter https://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=187

Thrustmaster TMX Force Feedback racing wheel for Xbox One and WINDOWS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CI97DNM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_a--jDbWXCWP6P

Alternatively, the t300 with pedals is for sale for $200 and then you may be about to sell your g25 pedals