Reddit mentions of Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition (XBOX ONE/PC)

|What games/sims are the most life like?

• iracing
  
• rfactor 2
  
• assetto corsa
  
• game stock car 2013/extreme
  
  All of the above games are more or less the most popular games with the best physics. They all have their up and downsides. They are all miles ahead of any codemasters f1 game or forza. They also all offer the ability to drive open-wheel cars, although some games require mods or dlc to do so.
  
  | What wheels are the best?
  
  If you want a good xbox one compatible wheel then you're basically looking at the Thrustmaster TX. It has a really good belt driven system and has a detachable rim. The downside is you need to buy a separate set of pedals and shifter if you want to drive manual. If you want something less expensive, the best bang for your buck IMO is the Logitech G27, but it is PC/PS3 only.
  
  |How much cost is associated with sim racing?
  
  Well essentially you need a wheel and a game. A good wheel will set you back anywhere between $200-$700, and most games are between $20-$60.
  
  If you want participate in competitive online racing, you are basically going to have to go with iracing. They have by far the best multiplayer. However, you have to pay a subscription fee and must buy most of the tracks/cars separately. This is where cost can get out of hand.
  
  
  I have a lot of fun with a pretty basic setup, however the sky is the limit as far as spending goes. But no matter how much you do end up spending, it will be a fraction of the cost of a trackday weekend.
  

As a G27 owner (same internals as G29), get a Thrustmaster TX. It's cheaper and uses a belt drive system instead of the inferior gear system Logitech has used since mid 2000s.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-Ferrari-458-Italia/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/

> TX 458 italia wheel

to be sure... this one? http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Ferrari-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1417633062&sr=8-2&keywords=TX+458+italia+wheel+xbox+one

What system you play on is beside the point. Let's see what we can plan out for you.

I'm basing this off of your other comment's projected budget, $500 - $1000.

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First and foremost, your wheel and pedals. Whether you start with your cockpit/wheelstand or wheel is mostly up to preference, but I'd start with a wheel first, since a wheel clamped to a desk with pedals on a floor is the minimum of simracing, whilst a rig with no wheel is just a glorified gaming seat. Plus, what you get first sets the budget of what comes after it, and I wouldn't prioritize an expensive rig over a good wheel.

Anyway, where you go from here pretty much depends on how much you're looking to spend. If your budget is $500 - $1000 and you're looking to get a whole setup going, I'd keep the wheel+pedal spending to $500 or less. This will leave you with a decent amount of wiggle room for rigs and accessories. All of the suggested wheels are compatible with Xbox One.

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Wheels and Pedals

• Thrustmaster TMX
  
  A budget wheel if there ever was one. It's by no means a bad wheel, for $200. It has reasonably strong FFB and similar build to its more expensive counterpart, the TX. Though with a brushed motor and belt-gear hybrid system, it's not as strong nor as smooth as the TX. As someone who's tried its PlayStation counterpart (the T150, basically the same base with a slightly different rim), I'd say it's 75% the quality for 50% the price. If you're on a strict budget and know you'll be on one for a while, it's a pretty good deal.
  
  ^(NOTE: As of writing this, it's currently on sale for $160!)
  
  
• Thrustmaster TMX Pro
  
  If you're planning to drive with an H-gate shifter in the future, then this version of the TMX is a good deal. Instead of the standard 2-pedal Thrustmaster set, it comes with Thrustmater's T3PA Pedals. On top of getting a clutch pedal, it includes a conical brake mod, designed to give more tension to your brake pedal and allow you to better control braking. Plus, in just about any wheel-supported Xbox One game you can map the brake to the clutch and put the conical brake mod behind it, giving your legs more room if you're not using an H-gate shifter. Though if you know you never want to use an H-gate, it might be better value to just get the standard TMX and use a DIY solution for modding the brake.
  
  
• Thrustmaster TX
  
  In case you're wondering, yes, it comes with Ferrari branding as standard. Anyway, this is arguably the best bang-for-your-buck. TX TX's rim is interchangeable, so if you're not a fan of the stock one, you can replace it with another Thrustmaster rim of your choosing. On top of that, its belt-driven FFB system is a bit stronger and considerably smoother than the TMX, not to mention that it's hard mountable (is able to be screwed-in to a rig instead of needing a clamp). While some get the TMX as a starter wheel and upgrade later, this wheel is often people's one-stop for sim racing, since it's just that good.
  
  ^(NOTE: You really picked the best time to get into sim racing, this wheel is only $257 as of writing this! $400 is a decent price for this wheel but the current price is an absolute steal.)
  
  
• Thrustmaster TX Leather Edition
  
  Similarly to the TMX, this is Thrustmaster's step-up version of the wheel; not only does it include a special black version of the T3PA pedals, it also includes a much better rim. While its style is more akin to the TMX, its rim is made from a metal frame, making it feel more solid than the TMX and standard TX plastic rims, and is wrapped in a nice leather instead of rubber. For only $67 more than the standard TX, it's a significant savings over buying the parts separately.
  
  
• Fanatec CSL Elite
  
  This is the premium class of wheels, for the most part. Fanatec's hardware is generally only built from the best of materials and offer some of the best performance, along with being open to Fanatec's wider, more advanced selection of parts and accessories. However, unlike most wheel bases, this is only the wheel base, no rim or pedals included. If you want Fanatec's base CSL offerings for a rim and pedals, the price jumps to about $470, the same price as the TX, but that's only with two pedals. If you want their 3-pedal base instead, the price jumps up to $590, and if you want a GT style rim instead, you're already over $600 with the 2-pedal set, $700 with the 3-pedal set. Fanatec's gear is top-quality, but it comes at a price. Is the bit of extra quality worth the prices that the parts quickly add up to? That's subjective. At the very least, I wouldn't recommend Fanatec Gear if you're on a budget, but maybe consider it for the future.
  
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  Rigs and More
  
  There are some Xbox One wheels for you to consider. I hope my explanations made sense, I wanted to make sure to convey the different aspects of each wheel so you could better make a decision.
  
  If you want my personal recommendation though, I'd say the TX, especially since it's on sale. $250 for that base is a great price, it's a near-perfect balance of budget with performance.
  
  Next on the list, a rig. If we're assuming that you're willing to reach towards the upper-end of your budget, then continuing here after you get your wheel is a no-brainer. Having a dedicated place to secure your wheel and mount your pedals makes for a far better experience than sitting at a table, especially if you're playing in front of a TV.
  
  Keep in mind that there are two types of rigs, wheel stands and cockpits. Wheelstands are only meant to mount your wheel and pedals, where you sit is up to you. They're designed to be foldable and easy to carry, making them perfect for playing in front of the living room TV or using in a small apartment. Dedicated cockpits take things to the next level, securing your seat to the wheel and pedals means that you won't have to worry about anything sliding around, and makes things more comfortable overall.
  
  As much as I want to continue though, there are many, many great options to choose from and reddit has a length limit on comments. For more information on building your rig, you can check out the r/Simracing Buyer's Guide in the wiki. It includes everything wheels and rigs to accessories and monitor mounts.
  
  Cheers, and let me know if you have any questions.

i mean i'll spend a little more I suppose. Get the thrustmaster TX?


https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Ferrari-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1472765103&sr=1-2&keywords=thrustmaster+tx

the thrusmaster tx is compatible with pc and xbox one

TX458

Thrustmaster T3PA

Looks like you can get both shipped from Amazon new for around $400-$450. Unless I'm missing something, that's not around $800.

No official price seen for the Mad Catz wheel. But the $400 is confirmed for the Thrustmaster Wheel... listed on Amazon

My concern is that these wheels might be exclusive to Xbox One, not usable with PC, PS4, etc. There's no way I'd pay more than $100-150 if that was true. Honestly since they've basically shooed away the people who bought the CSR wheels for Forza 4 and Xbox 360... I have no confidence in Microsoft and the Xbox One now.

Thrustmaster TX 458:
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Ferrari-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422568152&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+tx+458

Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter:
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-TH8A-Gearbox-Shifter-playstation-4/dp/B00MAXOTB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422568175&sr=8-1&keywords=th8a

Fanatec CSL Racing Seat:
http://www.fanatec.com/us-en/play-and-gaming-seats/csl-seat-us.html

Coming Soon:
http://www.amazon.com/T3PA-Wide-Pedal-Set-xbox-one/dp/B00KX75W9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422568311&sr=8-1&keywords=t3pa+pedal

This is the cheapest decent wheel that I know of that works on both- Thrustmaster TX

Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition by Thrustmaster VG http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_.bAntb0EMH4ER

They had some reliability issues when it first came out, but perhaps they've sorted that out now. When the wheel is working, it's AMAZING! It does have a 2 year warranty if you do run into issues.

They wiped out all support for previous 360 XID wheels, which is ridiculous. And they don't seem to be planning on making a new entry-level type wheel, like your official 360 one.

There are only two Xbox One supported wheels at the moment, the Thrustmaster and Madcatz (sorry for it being a link to Kotaku, but it is a good basic run down, with people talking about Microsoft's decision to stop supporting 360 wheels in the comments).

They're both $400 USD. I honestly couldn't tell you how good they are myself, but I'd imagine you'd be able to use the pedals, since the official 360 wheel's pedals were dogshit, these are more like just poop - useable (but no clutch pedal still).

But the Madcatz does have a lap base fitting you can use, and it is wireless. The Thrustmaster's more bulky and isn't wireless, would definitely need to be used on something solid like a desk or a rig.

So the tradeoff is that the Madcatz is more plasticy but more portable, tuneable, and comfortable to use (arguably). Then the TM is more solid, compatible with PC, and is sure to last on the outboard hardware side of things (TM's history with its internals breaking is a different story)

Here's an in-depth review of the Madcatz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kyHwH5zCOk

And the TM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhwe1DWF9x0

There should be more wheels coming down the line in the future, but I'm pretty sure it'll be no less than $300. I don't know why these companies seem to think there's no market for a solid entry-level wheel ~$150. People would eat it up.


Oh wow, as I was finishing up this post, I checked prices for the two wheels online and found a new wheel that's coming out October 15th, a "Hori wheel" that's $90, check it out:
http://www.amazon.com/HORI-Racing-Wheel-One-Xbox/dp/B00L6AVN6S/ref=zg_bs_6469287011_5

Seems like it'll be what you'll want if you don't mind the lack of FFB.

Also, the TM wheel is only $324 USD on Amazon at the moment:
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Edition-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=zg_bs_6469287011_1

Logitech MOMO and DFGT are at or slightly below this price range, but they're two good ones. I've used a MOMO for close to a decade now and it's been a solid wheel. DFGT is superior to the MOMO in most ways except the MOMO has actual paddles instead of just buttons, if that's a big deal for you. DFGT is like 2x the cost of a MOMO though.

If you can save up another $100-$150, or wait for a sale, you could get a Thrustmaster TX or T300RS. They share the same base, and it's one of the best on the market (TX's wheel isn't the best, but it can be replaced). It's miles ahead of all the Logitech wheels (G27,Momo,DFGT) because it's a servomotor with a belt. Logitech wheels are geared which makes the FFB less precise, weaker, and gives them a "notchy" feeling.

IMO if you're looking for a low-cost wheel to test the waters or are new to racing, get a MOMO cause they're very cheap (~$80-$90, vs $150 for a DFGT) and good enough. The MOMO's low steering lock actually makes it well suited for F1 and other open wheel racing. If you are still playing a lot after a year or whatever, put the money you saved on getting the MOMO cheaply into getting a TX/T300RS.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-Ferrari-458-Italia/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479573199&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+tx

This is a much better wheel than the logitech and in a sale at the moment ($300 currently) so it's only $50 over your budget.

You will have to do alot of upgrading if you ever plan to get a shifter for it though (T3PA pedals, TH8A shifter for a combined extra ~$200).

You can get it with a leather wheel trim and T3PA pedals as standard for $450: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-Leather-Premium-Official/dp/B0151K6FPC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1479573211&sr=8-2&keywords=thrustmaster+tx

Keep an eye out for it being reduced in the Black Friday sales next week.

If you can't afford that, the G920 with Driving Force shifter is a decent fallback.

If it were me, I would get this:

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-Ferrari-458-Italia/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480174329&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster%2Btx&th=1

The pedals are meh, but at least you get the TX base which I would place awfully close to the T500, but significantly better than the G29.

Thank you for all the help, I ended up buying this http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Edition-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 after doing some research on it. Seems really good and I plan on getting a different steering wheel for it in the future

My point is that there is a TX version that does have FFB. See here

Furthermore, my point is that OP is not referring to the TX version, so the version he is referring to does not have FFB. We are already in agreement here.

> Yea heres a link to the TX if youre reusing your pedals.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=sr_1_2_twi_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1417568963&sr=8-2&keywords=TH8A
> Amazon warehouse is also a pretty good deal to get an item from amazon. They have one listed for 245 right now. Or 290 new.
> something to consider :)

Yea heres a link to the TX if youre reusing your pedals.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=sr_1_2_twi_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1417568963&sr=8-2&keywords=TH8A
Amazon warehouse is also a pretty good deal to get an item from amazon. They have one listed for 245 right now. Or 290 new.
something to consider :)

It is The Thrustmaster TX 458 Italia set.

Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition (XBOX ONE/PC) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oVOMDbZPQ5XCW

Thanks for the details. I'm pretty happy at the moment with my setup, but one day I know I will upgrade.

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Wheel-Ferrari-458-Italia/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480265095&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+tx

Please note the differences between the Thrustmaster TX and the TMX.
The one you want is definitely the TX , with swappable rims and pedals, and the optional 6 speed shifter.
I suspect most (some?) of the people mentioning the TMX are actually referring to the TX: https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Ferrari-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B00ENFVS5Y

Edit:
TMX and TMX Pro are the same entry tier wheel, except for the pedals (Pro has the 3 pedal model)

TX is the mid level THrustMaster wheel (swappable rims). You should add the 3TPA pedals to that.

I actually think i got a great deal, i got the xb1 on ebay for $314 (With kinect) 2 controllers and 3 games. Bought forza horizon 2 and this thing http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Edition-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B00ENFVS5Y and i can't complain.

This is the best deal at the moment, that I can find.

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Ferrari-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B00ENFVS5Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416217669&sr=8-1&keywords=thrustmaster+tx

Force Feedback, and the ability to upgrade to a stick shift and/or 3 pedals. $286 USD. Normally $400.

From what I came up with when i was looking, This seems to be the best option now.

http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Edition-xbox-one-Windows/dp/B00ENFVS5Y

I understand you can swap out the wheel and pedals and add a shifter as well.... But i might wait to see what Fanatec does but they might be a bit more expensive

Pretty sure he's using this with this.

http://www.amazon.com/Racing-Force-Feedback-Pedals-Xbox-One/dp/B00GSJAQ9W
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Racing-Ferrari-Edition-xbox-one/dp/B00ENFVS5Y
http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-458-Spider-Racing-Wheel/dp/B00IVHQ0KI/ref=pd_sim_vg_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=13G1T9BM8VB90FKCYCJF