Reddit mentions of Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time

If they simply "stopped paying attention", how would you explain the CIA's orders to the Jeddah consulate to grant Al Qaeda operatives visas into the country?

How do you explain the fact that once in the country, the alleged hijackers received training at secure military installations.

It is you, sir, who needs to read some books:

Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II

Confessions of an Economic Hitman

Tragedy and Hope

Wall Street and The Bolshevik Revolution

Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler

Foundations: Their Power and Influence

Bank Control of Large Corporations in the United States

Wake up to reality my friend. These people are not, and have never been, incompetent or negligent. If they were either, they wouldn't be in the positions of power they are in today.

First, TH Huxley was his grandfather, my bad. But TH Huxley was very close to HG Welles. They wrote books together and constantly were meeting and having discussions. Alduous Huxley was a fly on the wall for many of these discussions and recounts the influence HG Welles had on him in his book Brave New World Revisited

Both TH Huxley and HG Welles were part of a group called the Rhodes Round Table (a part of the Round Table movement at the turn of the 19th Century) which would be comparable to the CFR today. A Harvard professor named Carroll Quigley wrote an amazing book about their history, rise and fall, called Tragedy and Hope. If you weren't aware, Alduous Huxley was a teacher of Eric Blair (George Orwell) and they both worked in high society circles. Both their books were what they believed would be the logical conclusion of what they saw happening on the inside at the time and this is explicitly stated in this letter from Huxley to Blair.

Huxley's "Brave New World" title is a response/retort/satire to HG Welles' New World Order HG Welles is the originator of the term "New World Order" and that is what Huxley is referring to when he says we're head toward a Brave New World. In his book, Brave New World Revisited, A. Huxley even explicitly makes fun of HG Welles' book The Open Conspiracy for being so evil and moral-less that it is sure to work.

On the insight of China's rise? I don't know any particular source for this. Briefly, China, when ruled by the Hans, was largely isolationist. Even when they explored the known world with Zheng He's fleets, they were diplomatic and merely traded. No colonies. Today, you see the same diplomacy at work - with only limited military engagement when absolutely necessary. Their peaceful relations in the African and Latin regions support this -- regardless of what the US statement department claims. This is the nature of China. It is a trading nation. Relative to other great powers, it has been only infrequently expansionist. During its most expansive times, it was ruled by non-Hans. The idea that today's China wants to "take over the world" is the Western mindset/experience projecting itself onto China. They reason, "We colonized the entire planet when we were strong. So, of course China will do the same to us.". That fear is only part of the problem. The second problem is that America and some Western allies have never given up global conquest. From that perspective, China is a "threat" -- not to world peace, but to their ambitions.

Read this https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X/

There was also a free book that summarized the main points under a similar title] Tragedy and Hope 101 I think?

Geopolitics isn't a tinfoil hat doctrine. It's studied at universities and people like Henry Kissinger write nonfiction books about it. If you'd like a primer, try Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley. Bill Clinton had Quigley as a professor and called him the biggest influence in his life.

Why's it so unbelievable?

Scott's comment sort of has thread-ender vibes to me, so I'll post one.

Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, by Carrol Quigley.

The Amazon blurb is overly sensational, but not by as much as one might think. For more info I'd recommend checking out Quigley's Wikipedia page.

Excerpt:

> There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the Radical right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other group, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.

(This was written in 1966.)

Here's an interview that Soros did with "60 Minutes" twenty years ago that explains some of his motivations. This video was rumored to exist for a long time, people reported remembering seeing it. After a long hunt, it was finally discovered by a reddit user in a university library with restricted access.

Just watch the man revel in sociopathy. He knows what he is and likes it. Watch George admit he feels no shame for selling out his fellow Jews to the Nazis and pocketing their possessions. Not spelling Nazis, not soup Nazis, not feminazis, but actual Nazis. The social consequences of his actions are of no concern to him. Watch his reaction when the interviewer asks if he feels guilty.

He promotes completely open borders, devaluing the US dollar and replacing it with a singular global currency. Literally a new world order. (The term for this is "globalism")

The answer to a lot of your questions is "we don't know just yet". I know you're trying to ridicule, but super-rich elites really do exist and they really do control a frightening amount of the world we live in. Globalists care no more for human lives than a homeowner cares for the ants that live in his lawn. They will tinker and experiment and if that means starvation for us, they're willing to make that sacrifice. Fortunately we live in an unprecedented era of transparency and we are slowly assembling the answers and finding out who really rules us, and how.

If you really want to educate yourself, read the book Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time
by Carroll Quigley. This book is not for the faint-hearted, at 1348 pages it is three inches thick. But it basically lays out the blueprint that globalists like Soros and the Rothschilds believe in. The Dodd Report to the Reece Committee is also worth reading. These are serious, sober works and not froth-at-the-mouth conspiracy theories. I found Carroll Quigley to be quite an affable and communicative writer. He's for globalism, not a raving lunatic decrying it.

There are enough keywords in my last paragraph to keep you busy searching for a while. I hope after you finish reading you can help to spread the word about the works of Quigley, and especially that 60 Minutes interview.

Couple different reasons:

1. The "Elites" have been writing down their plans for a New World Order since HG Welles coined the term back in the day. His book with the same name explains how the Elites will evolve and then keep the beta human monkeys as their pets: http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Wells_New_World_Order-5.pdf
   In the 60s, Carroll Quigley wrote the plan down again in his book Tragedy and Hope More recently, Obama string pullers like Zbignew Brezenski have written down the plan for the NWO in books like the Technotronic Era
   
   
2. Hundreds of elites repeat it over and over in their speeches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYBDIkgxKo . Gary Hart is especially egregious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTOCRa9lTZc
   
   
3. There have been hundreds upon hundreds of whistleblowers throughout the years that have come forward. Listen to the story of Aaron Russo. Listen to Naval Intelligence whistleblower Bill Cooper in 1991. Listen to Darrell Hamomoto (trained through the Rockefeller Foundation).
   
   
4. Look at Wikileaks. Hillary Clinton said outright to Wall St insiders that she wants "Hemispheric Government and trade". That's the definition and fear of the NWO (one world global elitist government).
   
   
5. Look at the TPP. 100% undeniable proof that Obama wanted to consolidate Mexico, America, and Canada into a single "Trans Atlantic Union". Look at the European Union. It's all about the consolidation of power. If you think about the NWO simply as the consolidation of power into globalist government hands, then what Julian Assange says in this interview makes the NWO perfectly clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6qlc3lStM4

No, not entirely. Everyone has beliefs and opinions that may not be supported by facts, be it willful suspension of skepticism or mere ignorance. The core issue and the examples given are, in fact, facts. Check them out for yourself. Also, pick up a copy of Carrol Quigley's Tragedy And Hope for some real mindblowing action. Warning, it's fucking LONG.

All the information is available for anyone to check out...it's depressing, but at the same time, very interesting and far more thrilling than just about any work of fiction.

Very good job putting globalism into the context of the ambitions of turn of the 20th century industrialist Cecil Rhodes (rhodesia/s.african mining interests), and his connection with Milner. This actually explains a lot, filling in a piece of the puzzle connecting to the early american industrialist dynasties and thereby, to the rev. war and beyond into history.

Also good job in demonstrating that financial climate of preNazi Germany as created by the establishment which was abusing them into a mass social movement based on anger, betrayal and desperation.

Hopefully the rest of you here read it like I did: that these preconditions of preNazi germany parallel the current climate in america. As a cautionary tale. Well done, sir. For this excellent piece I'm giving you gold.

BTW Tragedy and Hope has been on my reading list, ever since I found out it was written by Clinton's prof and was 'conspiracyish'. Also, refreshing to see the matrix/truther use of 'redpill' that isn't in the context of tricking women into sleeping with you.

Korrekt, Kirken idag er ligesom public-service, det ikke for folket selvom de påstår det, det istedet blevet et kulturmarxistisk propaganda foretagende.

https://www.amazon.de/Kabbalah-Secrets-Christians-Need-Know/dp/1095680005

https://www.amazon.com/Kabbalah-Meditation-Nations-Yitzchak-Ginsburgh/dp/9657146127

https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

https://www.saxo.com/dk/the-culture-of-critique-an-evolutionary-analysis-of-jewish-involvement-in-twentieth-century-intellectual-and-political-movements_kevin-macdonald_haeftet_9780759672222

This is silly. Did you wake up this morning and decide to take up geopolitics as a pastime?

Most of the readers here are too far into this to waste time giving history lessons.

If you want to brush up on the subject here are a few books to start with:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0805075593?pc_redir=1408767114&robot_redir=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0985271027?pc_redir=1408686538&robot_redir=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0615602223?pc_redir=1408631528&robot_redir=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1935439618?pc_redir=1408800754&robot_redir=1

http://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Ultimate-Insiders-Story-Presidents/dp/0684834979/sr=8-1/qid=1163059092/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8219747-6907339?ie=UTF8&s=books

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/094500110X?pc_redir=1408852909&robot_redir=1


Read these books and then do your own research and look into the claims for yourself. Most of his claims are common knowledge, and have been widely reported with frequency over the past decade. They are easily researchable with rudimentary search engine skills.

Your burden of proof logic games are misguided and add nothing to such a prima facia discussion

You're right, of course.

Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time

Kaczynski made a lot of sense until he started talking about a violent uprising.

I would add to the list "Tragedy and Hope" by Carroll Quigley.

And anything / everything by Philip K. Dick.

from Carroll Quigley's book Tragedy & Hope (1966)

"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers," he wrote. "Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy."

Stop voting for the "practical" lesser of two evils - you're rewarding the evil establishment by saying no matter how bad a major party's candidate is, he's got your vote b/c at least he's not as bad as the other guy. Well guess what - over, and over, and over again the establishment will give you evil b/c they know you will vote for it.

Globalism grew out of Cecil Rhodes Round Tables from around 1900, which sought to control the entire world for the benefit of Billionaire Oligarchs like himself.

After Cecil Rhodes death in 1902 the various Rhodes Foundations set up with his vast wealth were administered by Lord Alfred Milner and Lord Rothschild.

With the decline of the British Empire and the transfer of Hegemony and Global power from London to the U.S. between WW1 and WW2, the focus of the Globalist Groups transferred to controlling the politicians in Washington DC.

There are dozens of Globalist groups, but major ones include the Council of Foreign Relations (the CFR which was founded in the 1920's in New York), Chatham House (the CFR equivalent in London), the Trilateral Commission (founded by Rockefeller and Brzezinski in the 1970's), the Rockefeller Foundation, and George Soros "Open Society" forums and their multiple spin offs.

All of these groups seek to transfer wealth and power from the many to the few. The few being the owners and CEO's of major private banks, major Corporations and other Billionaire Oligarchs.

Since the 1980's wealth has been gradually transferred from the Middle Class to the elites in the top 0.01% by transferring well paid middle class jobs to the Third World or other low cost labor countries. This process was hugely accelerated in the 1990's with the advent of the internet, Globalist Trade deals such as NAFTA and the admission of China to the WTO.

Globalists support Open Borders for cheap labor which decreases wages for all but the top 5% of the Western population. (See the decline in well paid U.S. manufacturing jobs, U.S. illegal immigration from Mexico, South and Central America or H1B visas for software programmers from India. Or the expansion of the EU with cheap labor from former Warsaw Pact countries like Poland and Romania.)

Real median male wages in America have now declined to the levels last seen in 1972 and Home Ownership rates have declined to the levels of the early 1960's. Ordinary people from Western Europe have seen similar declines over the last 15 to 20 years.

Globalists seek to transfer power from democratically elected legislatures at State, Local and City levels, to undemocratic supranational institutions controlled by Corporate money (see the expansion of power of the U.S. Federal government in DC, or the EU in Brussels).

TPP and TTIP were both excellent examples of Globalist initiatives. Both included ISDS (Investor State Dispute Settlement) which sought to transfer power from democratically elected legislatures to a transnational arbitration panel composed of Corporate lawyers sitting as judge, jury, defense and prosecution, all paid by large Multinational Corporations.

TPP, TISA and TTIP agreements are massive Corporate power grabs dressed up as trade deals http://ian56.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/tpp-tisa-and-ttip-agreements-are.html

The scheme to replace democratic governance with one world government controlled by a small cabal of Banking and Corporate Elites was documented in the 1960's by Georgetown Professor Carroll Quigley - a mentor of Bill Clinton:-

Tragedy and Hope by Carroll Quigley https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

The other strand of Globalist Doctrine derives from the Godfather of Neoconservatism Leo Strauss who also advocated anti democratic, authoritarian and totalitarian, one world government controlled by a handful of Ruling Elites.

The Neocon Agenda and its Results http://ian56.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/the-neocon-agenda-and-its-results.html

Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley a must read for any one looking out for truth.

Here is the full pdf of this book at Carroll Quigley's website.

G. Edward Griffin, the author of "The Creature from Jekyl Island"
lecturing on "The Quigley formula". A must see.

My favorite quote from Quigley (supposedly one of Bill Clinton's mentors);

"The chief problem of American political life for a long time has been how to make the two Congressional parties more national and international. The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy … [E]ither party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of those things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies." - from "Tragedy and Hope"

Interestingly, the old school bankers like Morgan and Rothchild wanted... 'sound money'. They wanted a gold standard. If the banksters were trying to secretly create a fiat system, why did they want a gold standard?

source: http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

Actually, I would argue that our Judicial system is the only ethically operating branch of the government left. It's the laws created by the legislative branch that cause harm and aid private prisons. Yes there have been cases of judges (especially Texas) throwing people away for $$, but those are relatively rare (although Clarence Thomas scares this shit out of me). If you look closely though, judges have thrown out all sorts of legislative bullshit and have upheld the law in the face of opposition (big industry, lobbies) on many occasions.

We know we're fucked up. Most of us however are not retarded and you don't need to be a smug shitbag about it. I don't know what it is about European analysis of America but your language sure comes of a being a douchie bitch.

edit: Good read: http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/094500110X/ref=sr_1_1_twi_har_1_olp?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1458921464&sr=1-1&keywords=tragedy+and+hope

SS: A number of authors, both esteemed academics, like Professor Carrol Quigley, and cranks, have argued that the owners of the franchise are not some amorphous collection of businessmen acting independently at a particular point in time because of similar or naturally aligned economic interests. Rather, some of the esteemed and the less than esteemed, authors have argued that those businessmen actively collude and conspire in secret. They have done so through organizations such as the Milner Group, Rhodes Roundtable, the Council on Foreign Relations, Skull & Bones and other secret societies.


As Quigley and others have pointed out, the World War I era provided a springboard for the owners of the franchise. We would argue that the out-sized profits earned during the World War I era for a leap in control of important industries, politicians and underlying government bureaucracies, and the non-business/non-government institutions.


Was Woodrow Wilson a Victim of Kompromat?

source https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/094500110X/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=094500110X&linkCode=as2&tag=humarefre-20&linkId=VK7GP2KQIKF6OK6U

Bank of International Settlements

Their stated purpose is to “promote the cooperation of central banks and to provide additional facilities for international financial operations.”

and is owned by

Federal Reserve, Bank of England, Bank of Italy, Bank of Canada, Swiss National Bank, Nederlandsche Bank, Bundesbank and Bank of France.

BIS holds at least 10% of monetary reserves for at least 80 of the world’s central banks, the IMF and other multilateral institutions.

BIS serves as financial agent for international agreements, collects information on the global economy and serves as lender of last resort to prevent global financial collapse (GEE WHERE HAVE WE SEEN THIS DONE BEFORE??!!!)

BIS promotes an agenda of monopoly capitalist fascism. It gave a bridge loan to Hungary in the 1990’s to ensure privatization of that country’s economy, for example.

I'll let you gather more information from there if you are asking questions in good faith (as opposed to just being a troll). This is plenty of information to start you down the rabbit hole.

>The people who fly them wont starve. Now you are just starting to sound like an idiot.

Sure, they will. Most of us will, since we're turning all of our arable land into desert.

>you should start with this: http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

Alright, Alex Jones.

The people who fly them wont starve. Now you are just starting to sound like an idiot.

you should start with this: http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

This one is a classic in the community.

https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

archonemis: ^^original ^^reddit ^^link

Kaczynski made a lot of sense until he started talking about a violent uprising.

I would add to the list "Tragedy and Hope" by Carroll Quigley.

And anything / everything by Philip K. Dick.

also see tragedy and hope

Written in 1975:
"Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley is the ultimate insider admission of a secret global elite that has impacted nearly every modern historical event. Learn how the Anglo-American banking elite were able to secretly establish and maintain their global power. This massive hardcover book of 1348 pages provides a detailed world history beginning with the industrial revolution and imperialism through two world wars, a global depression and the rise of communism."

Tragedy and Hope by Carroll Quigley. Synopsis/analysis by Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis. Unfortunately only half of each of eight lectures available for free, but interesting all the same.

Amazon link to book purchase

PDF available on web

If you want an account from a solid source read this:

http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

It's a tough read for sure but here and there Quigley explains how this .01% influenced major world affairs. Also he denounced the idea of the illuminate having anything to do with the Rhodes group. That idea was born out of a book called "None Dare Call it a Conspiracy." This is on record and you can listen to an interview he gave on YouTube called "the professor who knew too much" where he says as much.

Yes there are very powerful rich men whom try and often succeed at influencing if not at times controlling government, public opinion, and international affairs.

When the politicians of a country are the best that money can buy, outside influence will take that country down what ever path they want. Think of it like a horse race where one group owns all the horses. They are guaranteed a win every time. Which is why it matters not who you vote for. The agenda never changes no matter what party is in power.

If they want a repeat of Hitler's Nazi Germany while they destroy the country's currency they do it. If they want to spy on their own people, torture those that are a threat and obliterate a countries reputation and then jump ship like a parasite to another host country, they do that (bye bye US and the $, hello China).

The problem is most people watch and listen to the news that is sent their way. They don't know any better and don't educate themselves. Knowledge like this falls on deaf ears.

One day, mankind will wake up and see this. After a bit, the cycle repeats. Most however, just keep swimming, just keep swimming with the same mind-set and all the while wondering what happened to their once great nation. Carol Quigly wrote an insiders point of view on this in his book Tragedy and Hope.

http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1418570542&sr=1-1&keywords=carol+quigley&pebp=1418570545821

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...
They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Not at all... I abhor the idea of the "conspiracy theory" because that phrase was seeded into the culture by the CIA as propaganda to ensure that anyone who deviates from the official narrative (even with evidence) is to be treated as crazy.


Here is an example. Everything that the bald guy says is true, yet he is treated as a "conspiracy theorist." This is an example of seeding the public consciousness with disinformation.


https://youtu.be/6IqrA4j7g54

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If you doubt that it is true, read Bill Clinton's mentor's work.
https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X

Or, more recently this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Uncle-Sam-Demise-America/dp/1640070974/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1549068305&sr=1-1&keywords=the+killing+of+uncle+sam+by+rodney+howard-browne

Hello, you must be new here. Welcome to planet Earth. On this world, violent power struggles for resources and control of finances happen between countries and others factions often. War is sometimes seen as necessary by some of these factions in order to do this. Order out of chaos is the means to an end.

For more insight into how and why some of these groups operate this why, try reading these publications by some of the movers and shakers of these groups.

• The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives – Zbigniew Brzezinski (PDF link)
  
  
• Tragedy and Hope, A History of the World in Our Time - Carroll Quigley
  
  

http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252936827&sr=1-1

> (T)he powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.

-- Georgetown University historian Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1975

What a telling quote! Quigley is a NWO insider.

Other great quotes from the article:

> Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again.

> However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.

-- Josiah Stamp, former Director of the Bank of England

> We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office.

-- Aesop

. .

The article proposes a return to debt-free currency. I made the same proposal a few days ago at /r/NewAmerica. See "Debt-free currency!"

> If America controlled its own money, it would be interest-free, and taxing people to pay it wouldn’t be necessary.

> Early colonists did it. So did Lincoln. Why not now by returning money power to public hands where it belongs. Onerous taxes would be minimized or eliminated. Money for productive growth could be created inflation-free. Prosperity could be sustained. Full employment and social justice would be possible.

> Imagine that America. Imagine the entire world that way, instead of one plagued booms, busts, inflation, deflation, instability, crisis, and perhaps the greatest ever Depression today bankers caused for their own self-interest to achieve greater consolidation, wealth and power.

-- Stephen Lendman, "Money Power World Rule", NWO Observer, 20 Dec 2011

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We Americans are led to believe that wars and depressions "Just Happen". We cannot imagine anyone deliberately creating such catastrophes. But one man's catastrophe is another man's windfall opportunity -- an opportunity to buy up real estate at pennies on the dollar, for example, or an opportunity to loan billions to both sides in a war.

However great the opportunities for profit, we can't imagine ourselves inflicting so much suffering on others. But what if we belonged to a xenophobic supremacist culture? We might then view other human beings as a threat, as an enemy, or as less than human. The devastation inflicted on others by war would seem like a delicious payback. The hundreds of thousands of dead would thin the ranks of our enemies. The carnage would be of no more import than the destruction of an ant-hill. If our culture taught us to see fellow human beings in this way, we might indeed be tempted to reap huge profits from their immiseration.

There is no left/right. Ask Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor. Start http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377829915&sr=8-1&keywords=Tragedy+and+Hope

Where did I say anything in my previous comments about support being official acts of government?

Many times they are, and have been, but there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Do yourself a favor. Step back from everything you think you know about recent world history and read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Again, I could give you a list of dozens of books, but you're not even going to read this one, so there's no point.