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Training and Racing with a Power Meter
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  • An updated second edition of the definitive guide to the ultimate training tool
  • Provides significant updates on technology, software tools, training protocols, and workouts, making the benefits of power-based training available to everyone
  • Has specific information for triathletes including a complete triathlon training plan
  • Paperback, 2-color interior with charts and tables throughout, 400 pages, 7 3/8" x 9 1/4"
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Found 24 comments on Training and Racing with a Power Meter:

u/biciklanto · 18 pointsr/Velo

I think discussions on power meters fit right into the purposes of /r/Velo. Why don't you tell us a little about your riding and training background? How long have you been training, and what sort of goals do you have? Have you read Friel's Training Bible or Allen and Coggan's Training and Racing with a Power Meter?

As far as power meters go, there are a few different types on the market right now (and others will chip in here if i'm forgetting anything, because reasons). Here I'm sorting them from closest to power generation down the driveline:

  • Pedal-based meters measure at the foot, and can measure left and right separately (not a useful measurement...yet.). Examples here include Garmin's Vector pedal system and Look/Polar's Keos. PowerTap will be releasing their P1 pedals this summer as well.
  • Crankarm power meters are newcomers at a lower pricepoint. Stages Power is a left-only power meter that pulled prices down with their introduction of power for $749. Additionally, 4iiiis has released a power meter that is just hitting the market — this is priced insanely competitively, like $350 or something, and it'll be interesting to see if it's a useful player.
  • Next up is crank-based power, and there are a lot of players here. SRM has been considered the gold standard of power, with a price to match, but that is changing. Quarq (from SRAM) is also well known, Power2Max seems to be highly regarded and is very competitively priced, Rotor has a system, and Pioneer Electronics has a new model that's a little pricier but also quite advanced. PowerTap is also releasing a chainring power system this summer.
  • Finishing up is hub-based power with the venerable PowerTap hub, which has been around for about forever and is a known quantity and still a solid value proposition.

    Head on over to DC Rainmaker and check out his reviews, because his is the gold standard on incredibly detailed information on all things electronics. His reviews are excellent, and he's getting a 4iiii unit to review so we'll know how it fairs. That'd be the best option if you're really price sensitive because their pricing promises to massively undercut all the other players on the market.

    So this should be a start.
u/snowboardracer · 13 pointsr/Velo

FWIW, I really like this book: Training and Racing with a Power Meter. Your local library might have a copy.

u/SAeN · 10 pointsr/Velo

> What else would you recommend besides heart rate? I was planning on getting PM in the future anyways so I feel like instead of getting speed sensor and HR monitor and cadence sensor, I can get a powertap hub which does speed, cadence as well as power!

Ask yourself why you want a power meter.

At the moment you're not doing much on the bike (if your longest ride is 30 minutes) and I suspect your not doing anything that could be considered structured training as a result. Spend a year getting your time on the bike up. Get the bike and yourself properly equipped, then think about a power meter. Part of using a power meter is analyzing and understanding the data you obtain with it, and at the moment you just aren't going to produce enough data in volume to understand it nor get enough use out of it to justify your purchase. Power meters don't make you faster, proper training does. And power meters just make it easier to understand your training. You don't need a power meter to train though.

Buy some pedals and some proper shoes and go put the hours in. Consider why you want a power meter, then decide whether it is worth getting one. Don't be one of the many people who buy one and don't know how to use it.

You need to learn how to train without a power meter before you'll get any use out of one. And your post history suggests you haven't done the recommended reading. Hunter Allen's "Training and Racing with a Power Meter" is the best training resource you can buy, regardless of whether you own a powermeter or not. You should buy a copy and learn what you want/need to do.

As a final aside, for the love of god don't give Durianrider the attention he craves, nor should you take his word at gospel. Whilst there is variation in heart rate that can offset day-to-day comparisons, you are more than capable of using one to follow trends in your training over longer periods. This is particularly true for you as a newer rider. I'm also going to encourage you to ignore Durianrider as your post history suggests you're attempting to emulate the bollocks he spouts about diet.

u/JoeJoeJoeJoeJoeJoe · 5 pointsr/Velo

Training and Racing with a Power Meter and Cyclist's Training Bible are probably the closest two. Also check out Reading the Race for strategy tips and race craft.

u/mrswart · 3 pointsr/Velo

Lots of great information in this thread about training with power so far.

Training with power is much more than generating big numbers and showing off to your friends. It's a great tool for tracking your fitness and fatigue over time to make sure you don't over train and peak at the right times. Look into Performance Management Charts and how they are used for training.

Even if you have a coach, you should get this book and read through it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1934030554/

Also, sign up for TrainingPeaks or learn how to use golden cheetah. TP costs money, is super nice and automated. Strava is a fun toy, but it sucks compared to a real tool like TP.

u/freedomweasel · 3 pointsr/bicycling

Before signing up for any sort of program, buy this book and read it all. During that time, just record your data and ride as your normally do.

I'd highly recommend finding some software other than strava to use as well, it's pretty terrible for analyzing power data, and some of the power charts with Premium are just flat out broken. Personally, I use Training Peaks, but there are other options, and other free options.

u/peppersnail · 3 pointsr/cycling

Try rollers instead of a spinning bike or stationary trainer. They're a lot more interesting to ride, and like any indoor trainer, is great for structured training sessions with a power meter because you can hold a certain power level very consistently (compared to being outside on a real bike).

But yeah, it sounds like you are itching really hard to jump into the deep end. In that case, the power meter will be the best thing you'll ever buy for your bike :) And the FTP test will be one of, if not THE most miserable things you will do on your bike, so learn to embrace the suffering.

EDIT: Here is one of the authoritative books on the subject, and is what I used to learn about all of this stuff: https://www.amazon.com/Training-Racing-Power-Meter-2nd/dp/1934030554/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467250018&sr=1-1&keywords=training+and+racing+with+a+power+meter

u/kswanton · 2 pointsr/bicycling

Power2Max. I was holding out for the Garmin Vector but gave up waiting. They ended up shipping 6 months after I got my Power2Max. Still, I'm very happy with it. The other bonus for me with the Power2Max is that I was already running a Rotor crank and just needed to replace the spider which kept the power meter to about $1,000 taxes and shipping in. However, replacing the spider on the crank was a feat in and of itself. Brutal. Turns out its something Rotor does not support. - i.e., if you screw up your crank while taking the factory spider off, they won't support you. In the end, it turned out OK. (key: Use a hair dryer to heat the spider up)

It is completely justified. Just for the ability to use it indoors using TrainerRoad makes it worth it by itself (for me). Also, after upgrading my Strava account to premium, all of the additional training features that require a power meter are great.

I've just started reading/following the Training & racing with a power meter as well which I hope brings positive results...

*edit: spelling

u/avo_cado · 2 pointsr/Rowing

Do you endorse this book?

u/kachewy · 2 pointsr/Velo

I agree with FastFreire being successful in bike racing is much more than power to weight ratio at FTP. (Although yours is a good start) You may want check out this post on power profiles.

http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/power-profiling

Also I'd recommend checking out a few other resources on bike racing and power.

https://www.trainerroad.com/podcast


https://www.velopress.com/books/reading-the-race/


https://www.amazon.com/Training-Racing-Power-Meter-2nd/dp/1934030554



If you have the funds you may also want to look into getting a coach to help you interpret your power data and lay out a training plan.

u/tamoneya · 2 pointsr/triathlon

Considering this is all in build up for IM Chattanooga(longer race and in sept) I would try to find a training plan for IM distance and let that carry you up to half IM in the next 12 weeks. george-bob's suggestion of triradar is good but you can also take a look at http://www.trifuel.com/triathlon/ironman-workouts/ and http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/training-plans-view.asp?planid=33&memberlevel=1 . It isn't so important which plan you pick. Just pick one and try to stay consistent with it.

Also since you just got a power meter and are playing around with it I highly recommend Andrew Coggan's Training and Racing with a Power Meter: http://www.amazon.com/Training-Racing-Power-Meter-Hunter/dp/1934030554

u/SirQuadzilla · 2 pointsr/Velo

Max: 1592w ---- 5s: 1363w ---- 20mins: 345w 4.2w/kg

Played basketball for 15+ years which I would say attributed to my fast twitch muscle fibres.

With structured training you'll see your FTP increase heaps. As others have mentioned, get a copy of Training and Racing with a Power Meter, by Hunter Allen and Andrew Coggan.

Other option is get a coach which will help heaps too !

u/spartacusmaybe · 2 pointsr/cycling

The best way to think of it is this, you can judge your fitness based on a few things: Speed, Heart rate, or watts.
Speed is the simpliest(I'm getting faster! I'm not getting faster.) but it can be effected by a lot; wind, terrain, drafting, aerodynamics, ect.
Heart rate is the next when used with speed(I'm getting faster and my heart rate isn't exploding!) but like speed it can be effected by alot too. Are you sick today, not rested, to much caffeine, along with all the things effecting speed. There is also a lag between effort and heart rate(If you do a 30sec or less effort your heartrate will only see a change near the end or after.
A power meter or watts is the most effective. In short if you are producing more watts, you will be going faster, longer or both. And the things that effect speed does not effect watts. And unlike Heartrate there is little to no lag since it is measuring the effort you are doing.

I'd suggest reading Joel Friel has some great books about using power meters: Training and Racing with a power meter or Powermeter Handbook

u/kinboyatuwo · 1 pointr/bicycling

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/1934030554


There are PDF online free and also ereader versions. For the cost I just ordered online.

u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/Velo

And if you are using a power meter, Training and Racing with a Power Meter is probably the way to go.

u/w33tad1d · 1 pointr/Velo

OP, if you have not yet, please read Training and Racing with a Power Meter. If you have not read it I recommend just reading it through once, even if you start saying "what the hell is this part getting at?" Then once you are done reread it. It makes a ton of sense the second time through when you can see what he is laying ground work for later in the book.

u/abeardancing · 1 pointr/mechanical_gifs

This book is invaluable if you want to step your game up https://www.amazon.com/Training-Racing-Power-Meter-Hunter/dp/1934030554

u/mikedao · 1 pointr/Velo

Before you do that, you might want to read this: http://www.amazon.com/The-Cyclists-Training-Bible-Friel/dp/1934030201/

You can use that with this: http://www.amazon.com/Training-Racing-Power-Meter-Hunter/dp/1934030554/

And create your own workouts and training plan.

u/DidacticPerambulator · 1 pointr/Velo

I'm guessing the book is this, but I would be surprised if that were truly something Coggan had written. It doesn't sound like him.