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Reddit mentions of Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X Advanced Gigabit Ethernet Routers ER-X 256MB Storage 5 Gigabit RJ45 ports
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We found 112 Reddit mentions of Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X Advanced Gigabit Ethernet Routers ER-X 256MB Storage 5 Gigabit RJ45 ports. Here are the top ones.
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Height | 2.1 inches |
Length | 6.2 inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Release date | February 2020 |
Weight | 0.75 Pounds |
Width | 5.1 inches |
There's really a couple different paths to choose when embarking upon this journey. Some folks purchase brand new hardware, while the alternative option is to consider picking up an old/used enterprise server, which can offer incredible value for slightly older, yet awesomely powerful machines with a lot of life left in them for home usage. I hemmed and hawed and was in an almost identical situation as you are right now, only this was roughly ~2 years ago.
I would encourage you to start by taking a gander at /r/Homelab's wiki, you probably won't find a better single source of information anywhere on the web: https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/buyingguide
It's chock-full of great information. Do you have a budget in mind? What's your ISP bandwidth like? Are you planning to share things remotely, or going to keep most of this in-house? Do you have a decent router to build out your home network around? LOTS of considerations to make, it's difficult to find a one-size fits all solution, as every use case is going to be different to a certain extent.
For me, personally, I started with a trusty little Edgerouter-X that I managed to pick up on sale for $49 way back when. It's an amazingly powerful and versatile device that handled most everything I threw at it. From there you'll need to decide what type of hypervisor you want to run, as this can seriously affect the hardware requirements you initially inquired about.
The path I followed for learning hypervisors was sort of:
These are by no means the only options. There's a very passionate community (albeit sometimes a bit toxic) surrounding the FreeNAS project, and just as many folks love unRAID for the simplicity and versatility it offers (at a small, one-time cost, I believe fifty or sixty dollars for the license). Or you could even run your favorite flavor of Linux server and build everything yourself, from the ground up. This is a wonderful resource for getting an idea of what that might entail: https://blog.linuxserver.io/2017/06/24/the-perfect-media-server-2017/
Some general tips I've managed to pick up over the years; RAM, RAM, RAM... you can almost certainly never have enough. It will be the single most in-demand resource once you get going. Don't stress too terribly much over CPU power, unless you have intentions of pushing out 4K HDR transcoded streams. Knowing what devices the end-users will be using to consume your media from a Plex server is also very helpful, but the general rule is ~2000 Passmark score per 1080p stream. This will be your bible for determining Plex requirements.
Don't just take my word for anything that's been mentioned here, as my network is an absolute mess and being constantly built, broken, fixed, torn down and rebuilt all over again. That poor attempt at a jumbled network diagram is a bit outdated already, but gives a general idea of the various options available. I mostly am what you would call a "tinkerer" type homelabber. If you have a more specific professional sysadmin path in mind, this may be more of what you are looking for, but I tend to stick more to the homelab realm and get into all sorts of bad little projects. They have a great "Start Here!" thread with an incredible overview that presents things in a MUCH better fashion than I have been able to just now.
Good luck and welcome to the machine! Used enterprise hardware can be had for fairly cheap these days and you are in luck, it's a great time to embark upon a homelab journey as flash memory prices have finally started to plummet, so SSDs are much more reasonable, as is ECC memory for your server(s). Storage and memory are going to be your biggest costs getting into this. You can get older generation Xeon CPUs with really decent horsepower for next to nothing. Are electricity costs going to be a concern for you? What about physical space and/or noise constraints? Lots to consider which could tip you in one direction or another.
I think I've given you plenty to chew on for now. My apologies in advance if I've overwhelmed you, as that was NOT my intent... just hoping to save you a little bit of time, as I've spent a couple years constantly reading, researching, evaluating various software and projects and I've really only scratched the surface of what's available. Never enough time in the day.
Regardless of what path you choose, have fun! I highly encourage both Plex and Pi-hole as your first two projects once you get going. In a perfect world you'd have at least two Pi-holes set up for redundancy. My primary runs in a little Ubuntu Server VM, the secondary nameserver is on a little Raspberry Pi 3 B+ which can take over if I need to reboot servers for whatever reason. Bonus points if you consider combining Unbound with your Pi-hole, as well as an OpenVPN server, or PiVPN for secure browsing while out and about and potentially connected to any sketchy open WiFi networks, PLUS ad-blocking for your entire network and while on the go. Next to Plex, it's probably the single best project I've tinkered with over the past couple of years.
Please keep us posted on what you decide -- don't hesitate to ask questions if there's stuff I've ranted and raved about that isn't clear in any way (sorry, i tend to ramble in a stream of consciousness style that isn't easy to follow)... rely on the communities of each of these projects, as they're often fantastic resources to help you. If yer unfamiliar with Linux and wanted to learn, then Linux Mint is where I started and would encourage you to use that as your first Linux VM once you're ready. You don't need to buy anything to get started, you'd be surprised how much you can learn on an old PC that's just lying around -- and once you've gotten your feet wet, you may find that your plans will continue to evolve and change. I don't think I've ever once seen a "finished" homelab. They're always a work in progress as there's no limits to what you can learn and do. YMMV.
Thank you, please drive through. . .
=)
My router was having issues when I started doing HA stuff as well. All those Wemo switches and plugs + Chromecasts and Rokus overloaded my wifi router. I have a Netgear Nighthawk R7000 AC router. The router was having issues with all the wireless and DNS and DHCP requests. So I took a page from my professional side (I'm a Solutions Architect for an HPE partner) and separated out the functionality.
I bought a Ubiquiti Edge Router and have it doing my DNS and DHCP and just have my Nighthawk as an AP. This then set me up to do a multi-AP wireless system. With HA you want to plan your wifi for capacity not speed. A multi-node Access Point system with Google Wifi, Ubiquiti AC Pro or another AP company, you can grow your wireless as you need more capacity. It can be overkill, but I dont have wireless dropping anymore and speed with AC1300 is just fine.
This is around the same price as an rPi and a USB ethernet connector. And can do nearly GbE speeds.
I run a ubiquiti edge router. I've been pretty pleased with it. I did Pfsense and a few other things as well.
Evening Tim,
My default suggestion is Ubiquiti gear. However something seems, very, very wrong with your network. You shouldn't have a device limit and I would pressure Asus for a fix. RMA it again and make them resolve the problem.
That being said, you said less than $200 so I will offer this:
https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY/
Little bit more upfront config. However you will be far happier with the results.
I have a Surfboard 6183 I got from Amazon. I am using a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter-X for routing and firewall. A pair of Ubiquiti WAPs provide wireless service.
TP-Link Archer C7. It's the only sub-$100 wireless router worth getting. There are cheaper routers that are good, but there aren't cheaper wireless routers that are good.
Processing packets at gbit speed without dedicated switch hardware isn't likely to happen at a $35 price point for a while yet.
UBNT makes a $50 unit that can do it, but they do so with dedicated hardware to offload packet processing.
All the links contain affiliate links (tag=lx7-20&linkId=fe646f143f52bb0de1504aa396676d4e). Unaffiliated links are below. The user has posted affiliate links before, so I believe this is not an "Oops" mistake. The users also posted this in Beermoney as well, but it was removed because of the affiliate links included.
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Access Point - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PRO512/
Router - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YFJT29C
Powerline Adapter - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EE9APYS
Modem -https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016PE1X5K
Ethernet Cables - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E5I7VJG
I'll try, if you have any questions or if I wasn't really clear on something, ask away and I'll try to explain it better.
A normal home network is quite simple, in order starting from your ISP's line coming into your house, you usually have a modem, a router, a switch and an access point. Most consumer routers are actually a combo router-switch-access point all in one. They provide you a few ports for wired connection and the wifi in a single convenient unit. What you can also do is split up this combo unit to be able to place each device in a better location. If you have your modem in the basement, putting the router next to it makes sense, but putting the access point there often means it will be completely unusable on the second floor. Don't be afraid, separate unit aren't really more complex, you just need to wire them together. I'll recommend a few unit throughout, but feel free to ask for a second opinion!
Personally, after witnessing the extreme difference in quality between home all-in-one routers and dedicated separate unit, I will strongly recommend you go with a separate unit setup. Ubiquiti makes super great hardware that won't cost you much more than a combo but will give you much more performance. Here are the recommended devices, I'll explain the setup right after :
So, your provider will supply you with a modem (or you will buy your own) and plug that directly in the DSL/Cable/Fiber line that comes from outside. Then, you will plug the router in the modem. The router will allow all the devices in your home to communicate with the internet. In the router, you will plug the switch. In the switch, you can plug all the lines that are going through your house. You can also plug several switches in the router, or a switch in another switch (example : a switch in the office plugged into a line that goes to the second floor, a switch on the second floor, that will work). Also plugged in the switch : the access point. You can plug it (or them if you buy more than one) directly in the switch, or at the end of a long line that goes where you want the access point to be. For a two stories house, you might get good result by having a central AP on the first floor, or an AP on each floor, depending on construction, materials and interference.
So now, we have the classic modem > router > switch > AP, using separate devices for greater flexibility and performance. Once it's all plugged in, time to set it up. For the router, simple, follow the wizard. For the switch, these switches are plug and play, no config needed. For the AP (or APs), install the software on your PC, follow the wizard, done! The controller software is used to configure the APs, but is not needed for the APs to work. The APs, once they get their config from the software, are completely standalone and independent, you can turn the PC off without issues.
Hope this answers your questions, as I said, ask anything that wasn't answered and I'll try to explain it.
Personally, I'm a fan of Ubiquiti's EdgeRouters. Honestly, I haven't had any experience with other routers (minus crappy consumer grade Netgear and Buffalo), but the EdgeRouters can still do a lot.
It's got a full GUI, you can SSH, TELNET I believe, SNMP, etc.
Another option is to build your own with PfSense, which is very much in depth but it's got quite a learning curve (at least for me). If you're willing to put in the time and effort, this is the way to go.
Also, I'm sure you know this by now but these are only routers, you'll need a wireless AP to go with these.
Edgerouter:
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511763952&sr=8-2&keywords=ubiquiti+edgerouter
PfSense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrQrt8r_uYg
https://www.pfsense.org/
Correct.
My connectivity issues all disappeared when I moved from a Netgear Night Hawk router with Shibby's Tomato Firmware to an Ubiquiti EdgeRouterX and UniFi AP AC Pro.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YFJT29C/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PRO512/
Again, took a bit to get up and running but once I did -- I'll never go back to consumer networking gear. The LIFX bulb connections have been rock-solid ever since that move... In fact, 3 of the top 5 devices with the most "connectivity uptime" are LIFX bulbs. The other 2 being the Nest Protects. 😊
Obligatory Ubiquiti EdgeRouterX routers cost $60 comment.
no he doesnt. its all about how you set up your network. i have a linksys EA3500 handling 10 devices. i have a crap router behind it handling my checkpoints farm for that IP(10 devices). i have a netgear something handling 15 devices on a different IP. the key is to separate the channels. i run mine on 1, 6 and 11. no overlap for the 3 programs i run (sb, perk and checkpoints).
however, if you are going to upgrade, may as well as upgrade to something commercial that will handle the traffic you're throwing at it:
use this as your router (this is what im about to upgrade too)
use this as your access point for your wifi devices. add more as needed
$300 routers are trash compared to something under 150 thats commercial-grade.
So, if your connection is slowing on desktop while hardwired I'd forgo the access point for now and get a dedicated router, an Edge Router X, instead. I'd then set your current device into access point mode and see how it goes.
Having said that, are you sure it's your router/ap and not your ISP speed?
Don't buy anything you listed.
If you truly had no budget:
-AP: http://www.amazon.com/Meraki-Cloud-Managed-Wireless-Access/dp/B00FA1TNZ2
-Router: http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Edgerouter-Router-ERPro-8/dp/B00IA5J8M8
For your budget:
-AP: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PRO512
-Router: http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
That is a terrible use of money.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-UAP-AC-LITE/dp/B017MD6CHM
That combination will be able to match it in performance easily while saving you over $100. If coverage is not full enough then buy a second access point and move them apart to each handle half the house.
Lesson learned. Best Buy/Geek Squad = idiots.
Modem
Router
Wireless Access Point
If you have a small-medium house you only need 1 access point. You can get any router you want, go cheaper if you want. If you're mainly going to be on WiFi I highly suggest the Ubiquiti AC-lite.
Do note, business/prosumer class routers are routers alone. They don't provide WiFi. As for your Edit two posts above, that's not SQM, that's just their branding of QoS. If a consumer router has SQM it'll be a tad bit more expensive, $200+ since it's going to be marketed toward gamer types, and that commands a premium.
The Edgerouter X is well-loved here because it's a cheap ($50 compared to Cisco's $300+), small, business router that can handle 1 Gbps one way. There's SQM on it, you can isolate guest networks with it, consumes 5 Watts at max load, is metal, and is more configurable than all the consumer routers.
If you choose to get one of these wired-only routers, you can plug in your wireless router, set it to AP mode, and it'll do its WiFi thing, transmitting data to the wired-only router to be routed.
Uhm, none of the above? Yeah none of the above. It looks like you are looking to spend around $200-230 for your networking gear, which is fine, we can work with that!
Total is around $210
Now here is the thing with this setup. You will mount your access point on the ceiling as close to the center of your home as you can. It will give you much better coverage than the netgear setups, as well as a far more mature and stable access point. If in the future you decide you need better coverage still you can just buy a second one and hook it up, make sure to wire it back into the switch as well. The access point comes with a PoE injector so you only need to run a single line to it.
You are buying gear for your business, buy business grade gear :) Especially because it costs you the same anyway.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_zQHUBbWVR0R2X
There is truth to this statement. I was adapting the argument from what I recommend regarding server/workstation backups (which are lackluster, untested, or nonexistent in many places I've consulted for).
The main point I like to get at though is the increased reliability in having hardware meant for heavy or 24/7 use, and then not too difficult to replace if things go pear-shaped. Also that they wouldn't necessarily need to be replaced with the same exact model.
I've recommended cheapo setups with SOHO gear, but with a spare on-hand pre-configured for the environment. However I can no longer recommend off-the-shelf gear for the most part, with things like this edgerouter X becoming so cheap and available.
this is a common problem with off the shelf residential class routers, almost all of them crap out after a year or 2. you got 3 out of this one. if a firmware rollback doesnt solve it, its time to go shopping. I would suggest something a bit more robust add a decent wap to that and you have a solution that will far outlast those walmart/bestbuy offerings by a long margin
Get yourself a Ubiquiti Edge router and AC-AP-Lite. Network problems done.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=pd_sbs_147_9?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00YFJT29C&pd_rd_r=XWMVACJREC989AK6NVZZ&pd_rd_w=TT8Ar&pd_rd_wg=4sK3H&psc=1&refRID=XWMVACJREC989AK6NVZZ
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1517765893&sr=8-5&keywords=ubiquiti+access+point
I've seen two people suggest ubiquiti, and I would also as well. Thought some links might help you get an idea of what to look for. Usual disclaimers that I'm not suggesting that you get the specific equipment here, or even that this is the best setup I could've gotten. Do you're own research etc.
In my home setup I have:
Running over Shielded Cat6A. I don't have as large an area to cover as you, but I do have some pretty thick stone walls in my house that are very effective at blocking wifi (and cell) signals. I have somewhere on the order of 50 devices connected pretty consistently and haven't had any real issues in over a year. Setup isn't trivial for a non-technical person though. Do-able, but not trivial.
Edit: one nice thing with this particular setup is everything outside of my network closet (and some things inside it) are running off of PoE, so I don't have to worry about running new electrical to the access points.
I had a spare Apple router laying around. Haven't had issues at 30-40ft or so. WiFi is a tricky business, because no matter where you go, the environment will always be different for WiFi channels.
A lot of places are broadcasting on 2.4g or 5g. So having a router/ap that does both is probably your best bet for flexibility.
If you're wanting something simple and cheap, just look at some basic home routers like Linksys (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014MIBLSA/ref=twister_B07FTFK622?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1).
If you are willing to do a bit more pre-setup (one-time) and have a greater throw for your WiFi, I would suggest an ubiquiti edgerouter and Ubiquiti long range access point (https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C)
(https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Long-Range/dp/B015PRCBBI).
That'll get you DHCP and a longer distance than most retail routers.
If you need any more suggestions or have questions, let me know. I'm a certified network engineer.
Edit: the reason I like ubiquiti is because it scans the current environment for wifi channel conflicts and makes the appropriate adjustments.
Likely your ISP restricts you to one DHCP IP address, if you successfully connect a unifi straight into a modem you will pull public IP addresses for all your connected devices, from my work with Unifi AP's you need to place them after a router. Your setup needs to go modem>router>unifi
Without a router there is not NAT, also there is no firewall to secure the network either. I would couple it with a ER-X, cheap and powerful UBNT router. Use the built in setup wizard and you're done.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
It goes a little above budget, but, they are both very solid devices, and recommended like crazy here.
Go with a separate router and AP. You get better placement for the access point and a router that can handle a lot more than 150MBps.
Ubiquiti AP-AC-Lite
Edgerouter Lite
If you want a not as capable, but still fast and cheaper router, Edgerouter-X
consumer grade routers are garbage for perk and beermoney stuff. look into something like this:
https://amzn.com/B00YFJT29C
and for an access point, something like this:
https://amzn.com/B015PR20GY
anything consumer grade is really garbage for perk and things that need a router with more processing power. many of the expensive routers barely have any memory (64mb) yet spout nonsense like 'dual core processor at 1ghz!!'.
means shit if you only have 64mb of ram to work with.
the router i listed has 256mb, and if you need something more, there is an upgraded version of it that has 512.
> Ubiquiti Edgerouter X
I had no idea these things were so cheap. However if you want to do gigabit Internet it's not up to the task according to some reviews I've read. Still, I'm sure it's fine for 95% or more of home users and I would not hesitate to buy one if I were in the market.
You can either get a router that works with openWRT and install a bandwidth monitor such as wrtbwmon on it, or get a router such as an edgerouter that also has the capabilities to do bw monitoring.
Ubiquiti APs are straight-up the best you can get in that price range, as well as ranges above it. I've found that a single AC-Pro will be able to provide the same coverage that two lesser APs could when properly located.
If you like the Unifi control plane then yes the USG and switches make sense, although you will pay for it. Personally I like the greater control and flexibility of something like the EdgeRouter line, and the ER-X just rocks for smaller installations due to the price.
Going to copy/paste this from my history as its asked rather frequently on this sub.
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Spectrum is fine, if you can get AT&T Fiber go that route. Check to see if you're able to get Fiber here;
https://www.att.com/internet/fiber.html
(Note, only their 1000/1000 speed is 'uncapped' -- the rest of their offerings, Fiber or DSL has a data cap)
For Spectrum, you're looking at:
200/10 (or) 400/20 (or) 940/35
The base tier is fine for the vast overwhelming majority of people. You'd probably know if you needed more speed than the base tier (Eg: Off site backups, serving up Plex to friends/family..etc) Spectrum also has no data caps on any of their speed tiers. You'll use a Spectrum modem (which they provide for free) but use your own router as they do charge a monthly fee for wifi. As far as what networking gear to get, that's easy.
Get yourself
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1534877933&sr=8-1&keywords=ubiquiti+edgerouter + https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Long-Range/dp/B015PRCBBI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1534877954&sr=8-3&keywords=ubiquiti+access+point
and have worry free wifi. Don't bother with routers from Asus/Netgear/TpLink..etc. They're comparatively junk next to the ubiquiti equipment.
If you're going with Spectrum, use your own Wifi infrastructure. The Ubiquiti stuff linked above is a fantastic solution. The Spectrum provided modem will work fine, regardless of the tier you subscribe to
The 400/20 tier will probably get you an Arris TM1602 which is an absolute piece of trash as it uses the Puma 6 chipset. Read more about that here;
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/consumers-file-class-action-lawsuit-against-arris-for-defective-cable-modems-300433510.html
If you do sub to the 400/20 tier, I then suggest picking up your own modem, specifically, the Netgear CM600 as it does not use the Puma 6 chipset, but rather, a Broadcom BCM3384 and is an 'approved' modem by Spectrum.
The base tier as well as the Gig tier with Spectrum will get you a satisfactory modem at no additional cost.
Milwaukee has been activated as a "Gig" market for Spectrum, and has been for 4 months or so.
This means a speed of 940/35 is now available for most--if not all of the area. The gig tier does require a $200 technician visit as well as a Spectrum provided modem. Customer owned modems are currently not being provisioned for the gig tier. The Spectrum modem is a Technicolor TC4400, but there is no monthly charge for using the Spectrum provided modem.
A few things come to mind, but I am no "pro".
How large is the swap file/drive for your photo editing program? You may want to make this really large so only saved projects reach back out to the network to make changes.
Why do you have wireless read/write speeds on your qnap? Plug both Ethernet cables into the router and then bind the services.
Router only supports 300mb/sec? I assume that is your ISP's down? This is likely your bottle neck, lots of ISP modem/router/wireless hot spots are cheap and have poor internal network routing. I would suggest an upgrade. Make the modem/router only a modem and if you want to go cheap, get something like an edge router lite.
I am running a TS-653a, 3x ports binded on the back and unfi networking hardware. Over a wired connection I often pull 100+mb/sec down
Getting this out of the way. USG and UAP-AC Lite. $190 from Amazon.
Or Edgerouter X and UAP-AC Lite. $130 from Amazon (rock solid reliability, but less user friendly)
You can upgrade to UAP-AC Pro is you have devices that can use its spec's. $169 for the AP from Amazon.
$68 on Amazon
> How much do they cost?
AP - $68
Ubiquiti ERX- $50
So we're at $130 for both items that perform substantially better than an all-in-one, like the AC68U which is ~$135
Why would you NOT want businesa grade equipment? It performs better, it's actually patched for vulnerabilities, and it lasts longer. For around the same price.
The reason I don't want to go the old PC route is because it's so power inefficient. I believe you'd be much better off getting a mini PC or compatible router.
I am getting this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YFJT29C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I am also buying a ubiquiti AP to get the wifi in my house going. I would be murdered if I messed that up.
I just started setting up LibreNMS on a RPi. I only have it collecting data on a few hosts so far, but it's responding well. Like /u/farptr said, if you don't have something that supports NetFlow or similar, you're in a pickle. I run a Ubiquity EdgeRouter X between my modem & network that gives me the best view of what's going in & out of my network. Good luck!
If you don't care about WiFi, I personally have been very happy with the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X Advanced for about $60. I wanted Gigabit, hardware NAT, and didn't want wireless (I have wifi accesspoints that I manage internally and separately).
+1 on Intel network cards.
Mikrotik products are well regarded and are particularly popular in Europe. In addition to the Mikrotik, the Edgerouter X is also very popular at this price point.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YFJT29C/ref=pd_cp_147_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=70FZY2GATQXW5MYK7AZW
Neither of these is a plug and play solution, so you may wish to view the software manuals for each of these two products, before making a purchase decision. There are many useful YouTube vids for the Edgerouter X. This is a general overview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SianDqAQaR0
In addition to the Crosstalk Solutions channel, look at the Ben Pin and Willie Howe channels for additional configuration guidance.
Instead of getting another consumer router you should go enterprise and get a Ubiquiti Edgerouter X and a Ubiquiti Unifi access point
Actually yeah. I suppose I could "wire" in the computers but they have run a set it n' forget it task when I'm not at home anyhow.
I guess a lot of the IT hobbiests have this and this as their network set up which means I get an end of year Net Admin crash course. My current network is a disorganized mess.
The only saving grace is a lot of places have cut off our phone supply and cheap ones go really fast in places where we can mass order them.
I myself use a Edgerouter X (good for about 250-300Mbs with QoS enabled, get one of their bigger models if you need gigabit internet speeds) then add a Unifi Ap-AC Lite (POE), it's commercial quality, will run circles around those home units, or if that AP is too much, if you have an old wifi router you can use it for just a WAP.
To better help you on this (and a lot of it will be opinion) please give us some more info.
>How many devices do you plan to use (if more than 5, stay away from the crap you can find at best buy and walmart)
>How big of a space do you need to cover
>What's your budget
Personally I went Ubiquiti and grabbed an edgerouter X and an AC-AP for $150 and have never looked back. Since the AC-AP came with a PoE brick I hid it in the ceiling and the whole house is covered.
Edit - formatting
Modem: Refurbished Arris 6183 $50
Router: Edgerouter X
Wireless Access Point: Ubiquiti AC Lite
Grab a few cat5e/6 cables to connect them together (
3 cables -- 1 from modem to router, 1 from router to POE adapter and poe adapter to WAP. Or you can do POE passthrough through edgerouter x where poe adapter goes before the edgerouter.
Would you say this is a better option?
Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X + Ubiquiti Unifi Ap-AC Lite + gigabit switch
Or
Just get a Mikrotik hAP AC?
This! Sort of...
For one, you will need a cable modem:
Why multiple options and price-points?
In a nutshell, download and upload bonded channels supports how much up and down bandwidth your cable modem would have. 8 (8 download) x4 (4 upload) theoretically supports 340 Mbps download and whatever upload speed. My current 2x2 supports 125+ Mbps download.
Why get something beefier? You will get slightly better performance if each bonded channel isn't operating near it's ceiling. With Comcast, they have 16 and 24 download channels in most markets so that will help with your overall connection. Also having 24 or 32 download channels will help you break through speed barriers if Comcast offers faster connection speeds in the future.
Personal Note: I pay for 100/10 from Comcast and bought the $90 NETEAR CM600-100NAS Cable Model 24x8 Bonded Channels for my new home. While the theoretical download speed from the modem far out paces what I will get from Comcast, the new modem will take full advantage of the 24 bonded download channels in my area.
Then you will need a router. With Ubiquiti, you can really go with one of two router options:
There's a lot of YouTube videos that will explain the differences between each router. The short version is that they use the same hardware and have all of the same features available if enabled over command line but:
Personal Note: I bought the EdgeRouter X because the price point is so good. This thing EASILY out performs my Linksys WRT 1900 AC or any other Linksys, Asus, etc. routers that I have ever owned. With that said, I will never fully leverage all of the controls in the UI and I wish I had gone with the USG as it integrates with the Unifi cloud stuff. I will eventually switch to a Unifi router.
Then you will need an Access Point (AP) to create an access point for your devices:
If you get the EdgeRouter X, get a UAP-AC-Lite. They both operate off of 24v so you can do Cable Modem -> 24v POE power injector (comes with the UAP-AC-Lite) -> EdgeRouter X -> UAP-AC-Lite. This is what I have now.
You can upgrade to the UAP-AC-LR which has the longest range of all of the Ubiquiti APs or the UAP-AC-LR because of it's 3x3 MIMO which gives it a higher input/output than the rest of the Ubiquiti 2x2 MIMO. The latter two devices use 48v POE injectors.
Personal Note: I'm using two UAP-AC-Lites in my current two story home and will transition to four in my new three story home. Even at the cheapest price point, these far out perform the other routers and access points that I have ever owned.
How tech savy are you?
But consider this - $8/mo for 12 months is 96.
A good reliable DOCSIS 3.1 modem (only modem, not router) is $170 on amazon today. That's less than 2 years and modems tend to live a long time unless you have lots of lightening.
Now lets add a router - we'll get fancy and do EdgeRouter & Unifi Wifi Access Point.
Edgerouter is $60, and a UniFi AP that will cover MOST households better than a Linksys is 100.
So you spent $330 up front for a REALLY good system. If it lasts you 4.78 years you broke even. Mine has lasted me 2 years already thru mulitple storms in the gulf coast. Well, teh modem isn't that old b/c I had a non gigabit for a while as we didn't have that option.
Well, you definitely don’t need anything that fancy. I would never recommend an ASA, especially for that one.
This guy can easily do gigabit. Though Mikrotik has a bit of a learning curve.
The ERXs can do gigabit as well, and can easily set up a DMZ.
If you have an old computer, you can also install VyOS/pfsense/opnsense. A DMZ is just a fairly straightforward firewall configuration.
get both dsl and cell and wan+wan them together before any wifi endpoints.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YFJT29C
consistently set all your streaming down to 720p to conserve bandwidth.
If you feel adventures, this is the best for the buck. Difficult to configure if you are not tech savvy, but very good and comes with all types of enterprise features without additional licensing.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1522856240&sr=8-2&keywords=edgerouter&dpID=31J3tVRn4NL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
are you getting comcasts phone or are you planing to use voice over IP?
If your getting comcasts phone your options are limited to modems that support it.
If voice over ip,then no restrictions really modem wise.
If your getting comcasts phone,then atleast new, I dont see any modems that can support 400 mbps and voice in your range
If your not getting comasts phone then
Something like
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015PR20GY/ref=s9_dcacsd_dcoop_bw_c_x_6_w
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-download-960Mbps-XFINITY-CM600-1AZNAS/dp/B06XGZBCKP
plus some cabling should be right around $300
that gets you a cable modem that can support your 400 mbps,a router that can route that fast with 2 open lan ports and an access point for wifi.
You can do 400 mbps over Ethernet on this set up,400 over wifi I imagine would be possible in the very best of conditions.
I had the same issue, I am not sure what the best solution is, I just switched to a new router. Specifically this one: http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
Had no issues after the switch.
What we've done is put everything that matters on the main network, and everything that doesn't matter on the guest network. That includes the IOT type devices, true guests/friends that come by, etc.
If you like the Google Wifi performance/security, but want to add more network segmentation, you could always add something like an Edgerouter X ($50) downstream of the Google Wifi puck. Create a completely separate network or networks behind it, and all the Google Wifi box sees is a single IP coming from it.
We've been through quite a few different wireless setups over the past few years, including ones much more pricey and complex than the Google setup, but nothing comes close to its reliability, ease of use, and performance throughout the house. Going back to a standard router + extenders would seem like the dark ages at this point. It's also fun not having to tweak router settings every week or two as things crop up; it just works.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519075876&sr=1-1&keywords=edgerouter
I recommend this. Great value for money.
You can get an Edge Router X for a little over $50. It's a great router/firewall but it does require some technical experience as there's not much hand holding.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
Something like https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ should work if you're on a budget. We're using the UniFi version to connect two sites, works well for both site-to-site and client VPNs, but since you probably don't want to spin up a controller just for that, the EdgeRouters are self contained.
Or this: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1484521557&sr=1-1&keywords=edgerouter+x
And fr wireless this:https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UniFi-UAP-AC-LR-Single-Version/dp/B01609AF22/ref=pd_sim_147_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=D2RCFQCNXDR1ZNGW18EE
I replaced an ASUS AC68U with the Ubiquity stuff and love it.
That's very tidy looking! I've been thinking of mounting everything in our closet on plywood but haven't gotten to it yet. It is...embarrassing so I won't share a picture heh...
I hear very good things about EdgeRouter X, and they're ~$50. Haven't used one myself yet.
Another link to the ping plotter results: https://postimg.org/image/8okm3ab1r/
Time to modernize. A better router and a couple of decent access points and you should be set. Throw in some gigabit switches if you're still running old fast ethernet ones.
I just upgraded my router to a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X. I did it to multihome my network with my neighbor - so if one of our connections goes down, we can borrow the other's. It has a really nice UI though, including a constant graph of observed connection speeds over each connection.
You could probably use something similar in your setup, to see the speeds you are actually getting and not have to worry about your speed test competing for bandwidth with Netflix.
So instead of switch I need a router, maybe like this or I could theoretically move and mount my WiFi router to the wall in my garage (which I'd like to avoid cause of temperature fluctuations and humidity). But, I can also set up the router at any ethernet connection as long as I set it up as an access point?
Router/Modem combos are horrible. Router/Wireless AP combos are almost as bad. These are the router and WAP I use:
http://amzn.to/2qzR4G1
http://amzn.to/2rzLWAh
The edgerouter is an enterprise device, so is much more powerful/complex to set up compared to traditional consumer devices. My uptime on my router is > 9 months though (as opposed to consumer routers which I had to manually reboot all the time).
My throughput on wired and wireless is phenomenal with this combo.
There are likely many options for your setup and maybe you'll get a lot of suggestions. I can tell you that I have a similar setup as far as home and devices. I had the Linksys WRT AC1900 (with DD-WRT open source firmware). It worked just fine, but I wanted a bit more control and options. I went with the Ubiquiti EdgeRouterX and the Ubiquiti Unifi AP-AC LR (long range) access point. This provided the ability to separate out devices by network (VLANs) as well as give the option to be able to easily add additional access points if I need it. Head over to the r/Ubiquiti subreddit for more info if you are interested. This setup hits pretty close to your budget, but does require a bit more tech know-how than setting up a single all-in-one router. The Ubiquiti line is sort of considered Pro-Sumer I think.
Thank you sir :D
I did some shopping around and found a bunch of different products. I think I can handle the access point purchase, but I don't know which router to buy.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YFJT29C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AADG0DQXL96E9
vs.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YFJT29C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AADG0DQXL96E9
Or is there something else I should be looking at?
Right now I am just providing wifi to my small apartment. But I gotta mention that I will be running an ethernet cable from my neighbor's router to my apartment. So I'm hoping that I can get this to work with that.
My neighbor is looking to replace her router as well so maybe we can both go with Ubiquiti? I'm running that ethernet cable about 80 feet so sharing a wifi signal isn't ideal. She would need her own access point and router. Her place is bigger than mine and her current router isn't doing the trick. It can't reach through two rooms that are on the same floor. But I guess it goes both ways? The phone's antennas probably aren't strong enough to catch the signal through two rooms, right? If the only thing that really matters in this case is the AP, which one would you recommend?
I use the Edgerouter X (56.50) and UAP-AC-Lite ([79.15]
(https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526999758&sr=8-1&keywords=uapaclite))
 
I get that $135 investment is a lot, but it is not as much as the "high end gaming routers" that manufacturers push out. But I guarantee that my setup will be rock solid for a very very long time. And for a fraction of the Netgear (298.94, 248.99, 188.99), Asus (258.90, 235.91, 229.00), or Linksys routers (237.68, 249.97, 206.99)
 
 
Now yes, I did cherry pick some of the more expensive routers that these guys offer, but I chose their "gaming" routers. The edgerouter x and uap AP will provide just as many options and coverage as all of those much more expensive routers, as long as you're willing to do the setup.
Sysadmin here.
"You get what you pay for" is very overrated when it comes to routers.
Last person that asked me to recommend a router, we ended up with a $60 TP-Link that does everything he needed just fine, has good range and good speeds.
If you have high demands, e.g. because of a large house, then the $200 "plastic spider" routers might get a little bit more range but not much. What you then need is several $80 Ubiquiti AC Lite access points. Large wifi coverage doesn't come from a larger, uglier single plastic box, it comes from several wifi APs (Access Points) working together.
And business-grade APs are available from $80, as mentioned above, and a simpel, yet competent business router can be had from $50 for the EdgeRouter X, or its more powerful $90 EdgeRouter Lite, which currently powers my own gigabit fiber line at home.
Thinking that "you need to pay a lot of money for decent business stuff" is the kind of simplistic thinking that causes businesses to buy the content-consumption-shit-machines Macbook "Pro" laptops for office users.
It has been a while since I've looked, so things might have improved. But what kind of price point are we talking for a solid consumer router that supports QoS? You can get an Edgerouter X for $50, and pair it with something like a TP-Link WAP for $25.
Edit: Prices in USD
I don't think ATT is throttling torrents. I think all the different connections to your router is crashing it. Try a different router and see what happens. Here is better router: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/
could I use this you think then
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480101196&sr=8-1&keywords=edgerouter+x
2 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480101253&sr=8-1&keywords=ac+lite
Would this be good enough to provide the internet to my wireless devices/wired ones too? I also have a couple of netgear repeaters to provide internet in a far part of my house. Think the ac-lite would reach? House isn't that big. around 2000 sq ft
You can get advice on "running cables" at various places online. It's basically just putting cables in nice out of the way areas (think inside the walls or attic). Similarly, you can "terminate" cables and place RJ45 jacks on a cable at any length to get custom cable lengths - useful if you buy cable in bulk or want to reuse older cord.
I used to get frequent disconnects with my Netgear R6300.
Now I'm using an Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X as my router, with the R6300 demoted to WAP duty, and it's the best network I've ever had. I still get a random bulb disconnect once every week or two, but that's nothing compared to how it was before, and they always reconnect as soon as I turn them off and back on.
Oh that's cool I wasn't completely sure if you had to keep the controller running.
I have been looking at these two routers.
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1449531583&sr=1-4&keywords=ubiquiti
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Edgerouter-Router-ERLITE-3/dp/B00HXT8EKE/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1449549072&sr=1-7&keywords=ubiquiti+router
I do some large file transfers over the wired side of the network so I thought it may be worth it to get the second one listed. Also we have between 15-30+ devices connected at any time but probably most of them are idle.
These were the AP's that I was looking at
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Enterprise-Unifi-UAP/dp/B00HXT8R2O/ref=pd_sim_147_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=31DJWuaQDOL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=13TM14RQA56J7T55G2B1
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Enterprise-System-UAP-AC-LITE/dp/B015PR20GY/ref=sr_1_10?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1449550183&sr=1-10&keywords=ubiquiti+ap+dual+band
I would probably just do the Wireless N one but idk. Do you have any thoughts or recommendations on these?
Thanks really appreciate it!
For a router and two poe AP you are looking at about $200. Edge Router X $53.50 and Unifi Ap-AC Lite $78.96
Question: Why go for the USG vs an EdgeRouter?
We have more/less the same amount of devices on our networks and for anyone curious my setup was very similar but a little cheaper:
Modem: https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SB6121-DOCSIS-Non-Retail-Packaging/dp/B00768SBAU
EdgeRouter: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/
APs: https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Enterprise-UAP-US/dp/B00HXT8R2O/
Switches: https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-8-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Switch/dp/B00KFD0SYK
When I started I already had my modem but a lot of my equipment I bought used off eBay. Significantly cheaper.
OK. Thank you, that makes sense. Do you think buying another router (www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1520105273&sr=1-4&keywords=wired+router), and connecting that to the modem, the configuring my current "wireless router" as an AP?
I have this
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY
and this
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1502136969&sr=1-3&keywords=ubiquiti+edgerouter+x
The combination of which is pretty popular and has been rock solid for me. I don't stream my games but I stream 4k content to my tv while my roommate games with no issues.
Setup is not as straight forward as other setups but they're are plenty of guides and videos to setting it up.
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https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=pd_lpo_147_lp_t_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PH3HWRW8DG4W5PFPS7HV
I'm pretty sure these can be configured as firewalls.
http://www.forshee.me/2016/03/02/ubiquiti-edgerouter-lite-setup-part-2-firewall-setup.html
Ubiquiti Edge Router lite ERL
My preference is the ERX as it's cheaper than ERL ERX
The biggest issue I see with this is that there could be some lag issues if someone is downloading files while someone else is trying to play CoD. With most routers is is really easy for one person to bring the whole connection to it's knees and with 5 people on the network it will happen more often.
I would highly suggest getting an EdgeRouter-X to go along with those access points. The edgerouter is only $50 and will do a lot more to ensure smooth performance than anything else on the network. For a 100mbps connection you can use the SmartQueue function (See fq_codel) of the ER-X. I am currently running this setup and no matter how many downloads or torrents I throw at it, the connection is as smooth as if I'm the only person using it.
Here is what they are calling the advanced. https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1536515655&sr=8-2&keywords=edgerouter+x
When I installed it in my uncle's house I did do it myself. It was expensive.
Total: $414
You're right about the tools but once you get Cat6 wired up in your house when would you need to do it again? I don't think Cat6 is going away anytime soon.
Problem with this is that throughput is limited. Even with a gigabit port, I doubt the Pi has enough power to push above 200-400Mb/s. You're better off getting a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter. You can use this with one of their APs and you'll have an enterprise grade setup for well under $130. Also, with the EdgeRouter coming in a hair under $50, you're talking Pi money if you include accessories. For $30-40 more you can get an EdgeRouter with PoE passthrough to power the AP without an injector / power brick and an SFP port for an add-in module that will allow fiber connection or an additional gigabit port.
Edit: If you're deadset on rolling your own, check out PFSense and a mini PC with at least two network ports. You'll need a dual core CPU to achieve gigabit throughput. Keep in mind, gigabit port =/= gigabit throughput, especially through multiple interfaces.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539535616&sr=8-1&keywords=edgerouter+x
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539535605&sr=8-1&keywords=unifi+lite
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Gigabit-Lifetime-compliant-TL-SG108PE/dp/B01BW0AD1W/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1539535854&sr=8-17&keywords=poe+switch+8
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You might need a second access point depending on the wall penetration, or the layout of your home. Ubiquiti switches are more expensive, threw in a tp-link POE smart switch. The initial setup on the erx is very simple.
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As an alternative, the EAP225 access point from tp-link.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C - EdgeRouterX
The Unifi's are also on Amazon/newegg/etc
Are you deadset on PFSense? There are a number of options for really good routers that can do what your looking for for not to much if your not hard set on PFSense.
If your dead set on using PFSense then I would recommend that you buy a Zotac Zbox CI323/CI325 Nano computer. It has dual NICs and the CPU supports AES-NI which will be required in furture PFSense versions. I have one myself that I used with well over a 100+ VMs/devices without any issue. Only stopped using it because I got the free Meraki gear. They go for about $150 on Amazon but they are barebones so you need to add RAM and storage to get everything going.
Shameless plug: As I said I have a Zotac Zbox CI323 Nano, and I'm selling it (again because I got free meraki gear) for only $125 with RAM and Storage. You can look at it here: https://reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/9wk6im/usauth_x79_partout_mini_pcs_ram_g903_switch_old/
You can have a wireless access point separate from your router, though all-in-ones are pretty common and make sense in a lot of cases. Still, you could use this as your router and this as your wireless access point. Under your budget and those wireless access points work great.
I have the "Pro" Ubiquiti access point (here) and I'm looking at getting their little router since my current router is only 100mbps to the modem.
well, it is dropping all the other devices' connections because it is being overloaded.
it could be too much upnp traffic or someone targeting you on purpose.
It could be overheating or running out of memory space or encountering a power draw issue under load
either way the router cannot handle it and is dropping all connections.
you can try another router /wifi combo or get something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
and just use the current router as wifi access point if you want to too.
but what model router? cable internet or dsl? if is the ISP provided one, get them to replace it
Thank you for the info. I don't really need the wifi part of archer, I have Google wifi for that.
Is this the lite router? https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
Easy peasey:
Modem: Netgear 8x4
Router: Edge Router X
Access Point: UAP-AC-Lite
This will be absolutely rock stable and will max your speeds easily. Will require you to do a tad bit of setup but it's very easy. If you need an explanation on why this is better than something you could buy at BestBuy let me know.
Not bad though, ~$55 bucks for this EdgeRouter on amazon...
Basically I would need both of these right ?
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1499726691&sr=1-1&keywords=Ubiquiti+edgerouter+x
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-802-11ac-Dual-Radio-UAP-AC-PRO-US/dp/B015PRO512/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B015PRO512&pd_rd_r=HDNSZAWA99GZHF55TK0A&pd_rd_w=kPnqD&pd_rd_wg=CbfzB&psc=1&refRID=HDNSZAWA99GZHF55TK0A
I have to set up the antenna in the ceiling ?
You can go for a Ubiquiti Edgerouter X as your router with some extra wired ports, and the AC Lite for wireless.
You'll end up spending some more than the TP-Link router you posted, but you'll get a much more robust, customizable and secure solution (and product warranty).
My past experiences with Tp-Link indicated that the weren't so stable to begin with, needing reboots ocasionally and underperforming under high loads.
Ubiquiti Edge Router X
It's not 'stupid-easy' to configure, but it has a wizard(update the firmware first, which is easy). There are a lot of videos on how to configure for a basic network. Also, it's $49(little higher now while stocks are low). Given how cheap it is, you can then get one of the Unifi Wifi APs for $81. Also easy to set up with a phone app.
Together, you have a pretty powerful combination, and when(not if) they upgrade the wifi standard, you only need to replace the AP, not the whole router. That router is rock solid and has never failed me.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY
UBNT edgerouter:
https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
and if you need wifi slap one of these in:
https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Unifi-Ap-AC-Lite-UAPACLITEUS/dp/B015PR20GY
> edgerouter
Would this one work? https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473965238&sr=8-1&keywords=edgerouter
So this is going to connect to my wifi network and then host its own network which goes through the connected wifi network right?
Probably a dumb question, but do I need anything else for it? It looks like I can buy ethernet ports for it here?
Thanks for the help
I have already suggested 3 options.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K
https://www.pfsense.org on an old Intel system
The first is cheap, has a switch and uses the least electricity, but is like 2% shy of giving you peak speeds under optimal conditions. People in /r/Ubiquiti can help with it.
The second lacks a switch, but will give you peak speeds under all conditions. Unless you get a separate switch, you would not have anymore wired ports and you will need to put the MoCA bridge and Unifi AC HD on separate subnets. That latter part could be a good thing for privacy if you configure the firewall correctly. People in /r/Ubiquiti can help with it.
The third is overwhelmingly superior to the other two and potentially cheaper upfront if you already have an old Intel system around the house. The electricity costs are the highest though. People in /r/pfsense can help with it.
> But it's not like I bought enterprise technology. It cost me 40 bucks.
mistake A
http://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-RB951UI-2ND-RouterBoard-RB951Ui-2nD-hAP/dp/B0144ESOSM/
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/
If you want something a bit more business class (and to save some money) look into a Ubiquity AP and edge router.
Those two will likely be a bit more flexible than the RT-AC3200. Also, if you decide that you need another AP, you can pick one up and get away with simply running another wire.
Ubiqiti EdgeRouterX can do full routing capabillities including VPN, and can be powered on with PoE.
you have a amazon link? was about to get this one http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C?ie=UTF8&keywords=Ubiquiti%20EdgeRouter%20X&qid=1462818057&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
and http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UAP-AC-LR-Networks-Enterprise-System/dp/B015PRCBBI/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1462819605&sr=1-1&keywords=ap-ac-lr
So this setup would do?
Ubiquiti Networks UAP-AC-M-PRO-US UniFi AC Mesh Wide-Area Outdoor Dual-Band Access Point
Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X Advanced Gigabit Ethernet Routers ER-X 256MB Storage 5 Gigabit RJ45 ports
There's tons of options, and it totally depends on how plug & play you want it to be, your budget, how much bandwidth you expect to be pushing, and what equipment you already have.
Just for one example, I use a Ubiquiti Edgerouter X and a Ubiquiti Unifi AC Pro. With hardware offload enabled on the router, it can push 1Gbps just fine. That's all you really need for fiber since the ONT (where the fiber terminates & copper into the house begins) is just included as part of the installation/service.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=edgerouter+x&qid=1565620771&s=gateway&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-802-11ac-Enterprise-UAP-AC-PRO-Separately/dp/B079DSW6XX/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=unifi+ac+pro&qid=1565620787&s=gateway&sr=8-4
If you don't wanna fiddle with the setup process on prosumer/SMB equipment, or have no need to strategically place one or more separate wireless APs, or are using cable internet service... I'd say just look at something from the Netgear Nighthawk line that fits your needs/budget.
https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R7000.aspx
ok so im gonna try what you are suggesting i want to buy this edgerouter
and this access point for now. if i see how well it goes ill buy additional APs and switches. but do i currently need anything else other then that router and ap? like does it come with its own power cables and ethernet cables or is there specific ones i need to buy?
Sorry - networking noob here. Apologies in advance, and thanks for any clarification you are willing to offer.
What is an erlite? Is it this? https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519246604&sr=1-2&keywords=erlite
Also - Unifi AC Pro - you mean this?
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-802-11ac-Dual-Radio-UAP-AC-PRO-US/dp/B015PRO512/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1519246663&sr=1-2&keywords=unifi+ac+pro
Again - thank you :D
I just asked another guy but Ill ask you as well. If youre willing to help me get in over my head, please do. I want to order a Ubiquiti Edge Router X and hook it up to a Ubiquiti AC Lite access point. And I'll need a modem for that right? I just bought a TP Link modem but I can send that guy back if ya think its lame or whatever.
I'm pretty sure thats a common reccomendation but I've never used anything but consumer stuff like a Linksys. Or I just bought a TP Link AC3150 that I am sending back because the 5G kept disappearing and after a few weeks the WiFi completely disappeared permanently.
Will I have a firewall and shit? Does a consumer router automatically have that or something? What modem should I get? I dont need much control, just want to set a custom DNS for streaming NHL games.
Anyways, this is too long. Thanks if you help me out.
Here:
That is a good modem for Comcast. I use it on the 150 MB/s tier. I'd also recommend this Ubiquiti router and this (again) Ubiquiti AC LR access point. As a bonus, the AP uses PoE so less wires and it can be mounted higher more easily. All together it'll be over OP's budget, but he will have good stuff. The modem will pay for itself in maybe 7 months.
[Router] (https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525029629&sr=1-1&keywords=edgerouter+x)
[Access Point] (https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Enterprise-AP-Unifi/dp/B00HXT8R2O/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1525029661&sr=1-2&keywords=uap)
Ubiquiti stuff, lookup videos on how to set it up
Probably cheaper if you find on ebay.
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C
https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-Dual-Band-passive-UAP-AC-LITE/dp/B016K4GQVG