Reddit mentions of Unlearning Meditation: What to Do When the Instructions Get In the Way

> without actually saying how to get up there

Maybe he didn't want to contradict his 'pathless'-path view.

My take: having had intensive structure in his life because he had that 'religious-leader' role sort of forced on him as a youngster, he then benefited from the anti-training-wheel approach afterward. The analogy I give is development that has experimentation afterward: Bruce Lee was crammed into mastery from childhood and then pursued 'the way of no way' and that made sense. Experimental musicians flowered after 'unlearning' their classical training, and so on. Some 'non-meditation' meditation teachers like Jason Siff also happen to be ex-monks who either outgrew or stuck with their approach long enough to see where the fluid benefits of shedding resided.

In short, when someone starts any journey, I don't tell them that there's no journey. They have to build the ladder for it to be deconstructed; until then, deconstruction is only conceptual and results in short-circuiting of the conventional part of spirituality that most people need to cultivate.

Also, I should have mentioned, not necessarily a reply to the original post but to others wanting to meditate to cope with mTBI, there are a couple good books that describe HOW to meditate.

I prefer a more loosely structured approach combined with reflection described by these authors:

Unlearning Meditation by Jason Siff (http://www.amazon.com/Unlearning-Meditation-What-When-Instructions/dp/1590307526)

and True Meditation by Adyashanti (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1591794617/ref=tmm_abk_title_0?ie=UTF8&sr=8-1&qid=1426012574)

I hope these suggestions will be useful.

I also mostly practice around stage 4 but still found choiceless awareness very useful. The instruction I followed were from the following book... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unlearning-Meditation-What-When-Instructions/dp/1590307526, In short, it's worth experimenting by letting whatever arises in meditation happen (even mind wandering and dullness), for me, it highlighted any aversion quite nicely by contrasting it with a mind that is fully accepting. I got to know the contracted and non-contracted mind and the process of going between them quite well. Anyway, just my 2 cents...