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1. The Study of Counterpoint: From Johann Joseph Fux's Gradus Ad Parnassum

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2. Composing Music: A New Approach

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6. Sonata Forms (Revised Edition)

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9. Techniques of the Contemporary Composer

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10. A Theory of Harmony (SUNY Series in Cultural Perspectives)

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16. The Study of Orchestration (Fourth Edition)

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17. Contemporary Counterpoint: Theory & Application (Music Theory: Counterpoint)

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18. Composing Interactive Music: Techniques and Ideas Using Max

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19. A Practical Approach to Sixteenth-Century Counterpoint

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20. Style and Idea: Selected Writings, 60th Anniversary Edition

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u/eljuantornor · 1 pointr/MaxMSP

The best way to learn Max is kind of a tricky subject and I'm sure the other people on here would be able to suggest some more ways, but here are a few that have helped me out:

  1. Read the built-in tutorials. They're listed under the Help section as Max tutorials, MSP tutorials, and Jitter tutorials. In case you don't know, Max deals with data and was primarily designed to handle interactions with MIDI. It's grown to encompass more data structures, but MIDI is where it really shines. I'd recommend doing this one first to get a feel for what Max is all about. MSP is audio rate processing and the kind of thing that you're doing now. Jitter is all about matrix operations (linear algebra if you have any experience with that) and is primarily used for processing video and images, though there's a lot of really awesome stuff that you can do with audio from Jitter.
  2. Watch some of the Delicious tutorials on YouTube. Some of them might be more advanced, but they're really helpful and he teaches you how to make some really awesome stuff. From what I know of the guy that makes them, he has some really impressive credentials.
  3. Get ideas for projects and hack them together. One of the more fun things about Max is that there are many ways to solve the same problem. Having the ability to go from idea to prototype to working implementation is really useful when you start using Max in a professional (whatever that word means in this context) setting. The ideas can be something like a simple synthesizer, a looping pedal, or an audio effect. Something a friend of mine and I used to do was to pick an audio pluggin that we liked and try to replicate it in Max.
  4. Pick a topic to focus on and do a few projects in that vein. There are so many different things that you can do with Max that it's worthwhile to get really good at a particular topic. You might want to only build synths for a while. Or, you might be more of an effect guy/girl. Max will do both really well and a bunch of other things too.
  5. Solve programming puzzles in Max. Remembering that Max is a programming language, try and solve some common programming puzzles that people normally use to learn other programming languages. A quick google search should reveal quite a few of them, but a few more simple ones would be something like getting the Nth Fibonnacci number or reversing a string. Not all of these exercises would be of benefit, but doing a few will really give you a sense of how data flows in Max and what it does well versus what it does badly. For instance, passing numbers around in Max is really easy while dealing with strings can be a real hassle at first.
  6. This one isn't Max specific, but if you don't already have it, get a grasp on the basic concepts of electronic music and digital signal processing (at least as it relates to audio). Learn about the different forms of audio synthesis such as additive, subtractive, and granular. Learn how sound is represented in the computer. Learn about the basics of filters and what they do to sound. Learn how to implement common audio effects using basic DSP building blocks such as filters and delays. Getting a firm grounding in this kind of stuff will keep you from being what a I refer to as a "knob-twittler electronic musician" or someone who just blindly twists knobs on a synth until something sounds good. Note that there's nothing wrong with this approach and there are many good musicians who make beautiful art with it. But, as Morton Subotnick is fond of pointing out, this approach leaves you completely at the mercy of the people who build the tools that you are using. Max is about a different paradigm, one in which you build your own tools.

    Here are a few books that have helped me out in the past:

u/keakealani · 3 pointsr/musictheory

Ahh, that makes sense, sorry \^\^;

There are books on a huge variety of subjects in music, so it does depend a little bit on what you are interested in specifically. For a broad overview, I liked A History of Western Music - the current edition is the 8th, but much of the materials from the 7th edition are available online. Another book I recommend is Harold C. Schonberg's The Lives of the Great Composers. It is less in-depth, but is written in a more narrative style while still hitting on a lot of the "who's who" in classical music from the Baroque to the 20th century (although it's maybe a tad outdated in the later 20th and 21st century).

Besides those two, I actually don't have any others on the top of my head that are good overviews. /u/m3g0wnz does have a guide to music theory textbooks on the sidebar that details out some of the main texts in that area. And, of course, there are books that specialize on a variety of subjects within music theory and history - Ebenezer Prout's book on fugues is one such example that I've looked at, as well as both the Kennan and Adler on the subject of orchestration. (Actually, Kennan also wrote a book on Counterpoint.)

On the subject of sight-singing, I've used both Rhythm and Pitch and A New Approach to Sight Singing in my aural skills classes - I like the Berkowitz a little better in the way it's organized, but both offer plenty of examples for practice. Alternatively, picking up a hymnal is possibly an easier alternative to sightsinging that gives you lots of tonal material for practice.

With most of my other suggestions, though, you don't really need a book. Print out some scores on IMSLP or pick up a cheap study edition (like this one of Mozart piano sonatas) and work through a harmonic/formal analysis.

With transposition, I think probably just working through some scores on IMSLP would be a good start, as well - I can't think of any other better way to get exercises for that. It's one of those topics that's pretty easy to quiz yourself with as long as you keep yourself honest. :)

Edit to add: As far as specifics of literature, that is obviously pretty instrument-dependent. I am a vocalist, and I usually choose language first and then begin exploring pieces that might work with my current technical goals. I know a lot of instrumentalists treat genre/time period the same way. So depending on your instrument, you may have a different approach, but it helps to narrow things down to a few composers you might like to explore for your instrument, and then seeing if anything works for you. Although be wary - for me I end up getting so involved in lit studies that I have a list a mile long of pieces I want to study in the future. It's a double-edged sword for sure.

u/etcomro · 3 pointsr/Songwriting

> I'd much rather write and have a professional singer with professional studio equipment sing it.

A lot of guys do that. And I probably will too, least that's my goal when my skills are up to it. But I'm glad you told me that, if that's your goal then you should want to get better. A hobbyist isn't going to be willing to put in the work.

Anyway, after listening to em all I would give yourself more credit as a singer. A few vocal lessons with the right teacher could get you singing so good you'd surprise yourself.

Of the 3 originals you posted, all 3 have some pretty common issues that can be addressed. I'm not going to go line by line because really the lines can be arbitrary.

  • Word rhythm - believe it not, the accentation(or lack thereof) in a syllable creates a rhythm that you can use to make more powerful lyrics. I just read about this a couple weeks ago in my rhyming dictionary but basic prosody rules apply. If you need a line to feel stable with the other lines, match the rhythm. If you need to create instability, change the rhythm (shorter or longer). Stability in word rhythm is how you get the sing-along effect.

  • Rhyme - You can tell you wrote these as a teenager because you must have been coming up with the rhymes off the top of your head. A better approach I've found is to brainstorm some words that have to do with your hook. Then go to your rhyming dictionary (not a bullshit online one, no matter what anyone else says), and pick all the rhymes that seem to fit your theme. A good rhyming dictionary will also teach about the other types of rhyme other than perfect rhyme. You can also use this to create stability/instability, perfect rhymes are stable, the more dissonant sound the less stable the rhyme.

  • Rhyme scheme - Setting up more a pattern to your rhyming will make it easier for the listener. See the above about rhymes but try out these rhyme schemes as there about the most popular in music today: ABAC, ABCA, ABCB

  • Song structure - You did a better job than most posters here of having a chorus that sticks out. However, the songs on the radio these days almost always have a pre-chorus. Back in the day it was more optional but these days a pre-chorus build that has a hook in it is the way most hits seem to work

  • Verse development - Here all the rules of story telling apply. You want each line to move your story along with a definite beginning, middle, and end (especially with country which it sounds like you're most close to). This is something else you can determine before you write the lyrics. I use a box method and a typical development could be I-You-We. Or even Aristotle's Pain-Fear-Catharsis. The way you were doing it, it didn't seem to be moving very far.

  • Detail, detail, detail - Ralph Murphy says that our job as story tellers is to get the listener engaged in a story that never happened, with characters that don't exist, in a place that never was, and make em believe it because it relates to their own story. A lot of us make the mistake especially when we start out as using music as a diary, that's fine but that doesnt' make people want to listen to your song over and over. The trick is to use lots of details that can relatable to other people. So details are objects or typically nouns that help paint a picture in the eye of the listener. Use them liberally in your verses, sparingly in your choruses. The chorus is where you talk about how you (or the narrator) feel(s)

    I'll use one of the songs as an example of some of this stuff:
  • hook/title: Just Another Broken Heart
  • When I read that I see another non-unique way of singing a sad bastard song. One of the hardest things about our job is saying the same old thing in a fresh way

  • rhyme schemes
  • Your first verse sets a AABAA (counting assonance as rhyme), the next verse is ABBAA. And you go to ABAB in the chorus to mix it up, good job on mixing it up there but you want to keep the verse rhyme patterns the same. Also, try to stay away from couplets when you want to be taken seriously. AABB can sound corny.

  • structure
  • You have a Verse/Chorus/Verse/Chorus/Verse structure. Not one of the standard structure. Again, pre-choruses are the thing these days. And your first verse is the 3rd verse. I don't know if your first verse is strong enough for that. Additionally, is there a counterpoint idea that could balance the sadness of the rest of the song? Remember, contrast is the name of the game in songwriting.

  • verse development
  • the first verse deals with not wanting to wake up to the reality and face the pain. I like that. The 2nd verse deals with the fear of what you'll find. That's okay but you've already indicated that somewhat in your first verse. You're just restating it. And then the 3rd verse is a repeat of the first. And I don't know if your first verse is strong enough for that.

    ..k so I'm getting to have a wall of text here so I'll stop there. I think you get the point. The biggest hurdle an aspiring pro songwriter has to make is the realization that listener's don't give a shit about you. They care about how your song makes them feel. If you can elicit emotion in the right way you may been on to something.

    I would recommend, if this is something you're legitimately considering pursuing, that you consider joining Taxi.com. They're a company you can join (for a fee) that will pitch your songs to the majors. They can also give you advice on finding a studio to produce your songs. But more importantly, they'll give you reviews of your submissions for actual industry pros. At the very least you could learn a ton from their forums (http://forums.taxi.com) and watching some Taxi TV.

    Here are the books that I've probably learned the most from all most of my critique is based on:

    Writing Better Lyrics

    Murphy's Laws of Songwriting

    The Craft of Lyric Writing

    But that's just my 2 cents as a random guy on the internet.
u/m3g0wnz · 2 pointsr/musictheory

I posted this in our still-being-created FAQ, hope it helps!

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I always recommend Robert Gauldin's books on 16th- and 18th-century counterpoint, mostly because they're just what I used as an undergrad. I realize there are others out there that are just as good, but I do think Gauldin is extremely smart and knows what he's talking about.

I've also used Evan Jones's book on modal counterpoint. It's newer so not as time-tested, but it seems like a nice book. It quotes some passages directly from Fux's Gradus where they are relevant, which is nice.

Speaking of which, I don't recommend learning straight from Fux's Gradus. It was written nearly 300 years ago (in 1725) and you are not its target audience! It's an extremely important treatise in relation to the history of music theory and music in general, but it is not flawless and there are other books written with a more updated style of pedagogy that will be easier to learn from. Feel free to read Fux to supplement your work, but I would not make it my primary text.

Turning now to species counterpoint, I'd like to plug what I think is a fascinating book for academics and beginners alike: Counterpoint in Composition by Carl Schachter and Felix Salzer, two brilliant minds in music theory. The book does teach some counterpoint, but what I think the interesting part is is where they relate counterpoint to "free composition"—i.e., pieces by Beethoven, Brahms, and others who were not literally writing species counterpoint, but composing freely. Every student I've assigned readings to from this text has loved the readings and it encouraged them to keep working at counterpoint since the relationship to "real music" became that much more tangible after reading this book.

u/samuraiguitarist · 1 pointr/Songwriters

My pleasure! Ralph Murphy is a boss, met him for the first time my last trip down to Nashville. I would highly recommend a few cheap/free resources. Ralph Murphy's Laws Of Songwriting, Writing Better Lyrics - Pat Pattison (You can't really tell but both of these are hyperlinks, so go feel free to click on them), and www.coursera.com offers a free online lyric class. SAC memberships are like $35 for students, and then you can attend workshops free.

I think you can totally write downer characters, but again, give him a redeeming quality. Give us a reason to root for him.

As far as playing. You don't need to be a John Mayer or Elton John. A lot of the most successful writers I know are mediocre at best guitar players. If you can play acoustic guitar in time you have all you need as far as guitar skills. I mean the more you know the better, but you can get by with the basics. A bigger factor for the artist thing is having the "it" factor. It's impossible for me to tell from a recording if you have it or not. I know I don't have the frontman "it" factor. But when you see it you know. It's the confidence, the charisma, the ability to connect with an audience whether it be 3 drunk dudes in a bar or thousands at the ACC. I wouldn't concern yourself with the guitar stuff.

All the best!

u/allemande · 6 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

For anything that involves advanced music theory, or more technical elements of music, your best bet (IMHO) is to stay clear from jazz/rock books or anything "popular" and read from traditional academic/classical composers. That is, if you're looking to understand music from a more historic point of view of how is was used, and how it worked for hundreds of years and how it still works today.

There are tons of good books out there, but off the top of my head I reccomend:

Regarding the art of counterpoint:


Preliminary exercises in Counterpoint - Schoenberg

Also, you could check out the traditional Fux's Study of Counterpoint, but I think Schoenberg's book is far more complete and incentive.

Regarding the art of Harmony:


For a long time I've always thought that books could educate you in any way, until I met my harmony teacher. After studying with her for a couple years I find it hard to believe how much information, technique, and art is missing from almost every book on the subject, some are exceptions, obviously, but my recommendation is that there is no better way of learning this but with personal intruction. Also, the teacher needs to be someone who has had a strong education in music from well-known masters of the past, as was my teacher.

Anyways, regarding harmony in the more poetical and theoretical sense I reccomend :

Rameau's Treatise on Harmony

and of course, Schoenberg's Theory of Harmony

For a more technical approach to harmony I haven't found any books I'm really fond of, but I do think that Paul Hindemith's book is a very good option.

For something in the middle I recommend this

Regarding form and structure in music:


Once again, I have never seen information and instruction similar to that which I received with my professors, however here are a few good picks...

Schoenberg's Fundamentals of musical composition

and 2 books that I found very useful were...
(these I didn't find on amazon.com)

from German composer Clemens Kuhn: "Formenlehre der Musik" (this is only in German)

and from Spanish composer Joaquin Zamacois: "Curso de Formas Musicales" (this is only in Spanish I believe)

Well, surely there are more books, but I think these are good options for you to start. However, always with a grain of salt

u/krypton86 · 2 pointsr/Learnmusic

Yes, counterpoint assumes that you have a foundation in 18th century harmonic practice, also known as "common period" practices, e.g. voice leading as practiced by Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, etc.

Harmony by Walter Piston is very thorough, but it's a serious treatment and perhaps not for the faint of heart. Also, you may want to get an edition before the fifth as it's substantially different from a pedagogical standpoint than the earlier editions. I can also recommend Kostka's Tonal Harmony very highly, but also a serious treatment. In fact, it may be best just to start with the Kostka and pick up the Piston later if the fancy strikes you.

These two books teach harmony in very structured way, and in many ways that's the best for learning counterpoint. Eventually, depending on how serious you want to get about composition, you may want to read Schoenberg's book Theory of Harmony. It covers the same material as most harmony books, but it does so from the perspective of the composer. It's even a little philosophical (and dense). It's not unusual for graduate students to re-learn harmony using the Schoenberg text as it forces you to think like a composer. Of course it's a more difficult read, but only if you're unprepared.

If you'd like something a little more easy, there's no shame in getting the Dummies series book on harmony. It does the job with a minimum of depth. Frankly, though, it's in your best interest to start with a solid, university level textbook like the first two I mentioned if you want to tackle counterpoint. Eventually, it's a good idea to read more than one book on tonal theory anyway, so it can't hurt to start with the Kostka and just put it down and use the "Dummies" book. You can always just come back to it later.

u/Jongtr · 1 pointr/musictheory

> alternate chords

You mean altered chords?

> It also taught me the modes of a harmonic minor scale, but it never taught why I would need to know them, and when I'm going to have to use them

You don't, essentially. Unless maybe you're playing flamenco or similar folk music. In western music (classical and jazz anyway), harmonic minor is not really a scale, it's the practice of raising the 7th scale degree to give a major V chord in a minor key. It implies a scale, but really that scale only applies to the V chord (which you could say was the 5th mode of the scale, but it's really just the scale of the key with a raised 7th).

You do need to know harmonic minor (as you do major and melodic minor), but its modes are not much use. Modes of major and melodic minor are more useful but, again, their usage is rarely well explained. Jazz improvisation is really not about scales - any more than speech is about the alphabet. ;-)

> Are there books that do teach those kinds of stuff for composing jazz?

There are books on jazz composition, yes. I haven't read them myself, though, so can only google them like you can. Such as [this] (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jazz-Composition-Practice-Ted-Pease/dp/0876390017/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543314154&sr=8-1), or [this] (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Composing-Music-New-Approach-Russo/dp/0226732169/ref=pd_sim_14_8?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0226732169&pd_rd_r=5e885315-f22e-11e8-a01b-4d1de731c45e&pd_rd_w=HMCnI&pd_rd_wg=fE146&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_p=1e3b4162-429b-4ea8-80b8-75d978d3d89e&pf_rd_r=F33VW4NRKC43YC7EBNWZ&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=F33VW4NRKC43YC7EBNWZ).
I do have [this one] (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Composing-Jazz-Orchestra-William-Russo/dp/0226732096/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1543314404&sr=1-1) by Russo, but it isn't about composing at all: it's just a neat little book on arranging. Has some very useful tips on chord types, cadences, jazz harmony and voicing - and recommended for that reason - but nothing on producing original material. The assumed genre is the kind of key-based (functional) harmony you hear in big band jazz.

Likewise there are a few books on jazz theory - some controversial, all interesting, but maybe not that useful for composing.

Otherwise, I'd echo what 65TwinReverbRI says: study the kind of jazz you want to write. Listen and copy. If that's too hard (and it may well be!) get sheet music, Real Books, etc. Copy the sounds you like, put them together your way. In a nutshell, that's how all composers in any genre work.

u/onlyforjazzmemes · 2 pointsr/jazzguitar

I've played a decent amound of rock, (mostly into Wilco, Sufjan type stuff) and I feel that playing Bach helped me a lot for writing memorable parts with good voice leading. It's mostly about giving yourself a solid harmonic framework to go off of. Like building a house... you can kinda do whatever you want with the decorations, but the framework and structure has to be there. Bach gives us that framework, even for rock/pop/jazz (to an extent).

Some things of his that might help you for guitar parts: his solo violin (and solo cello) stuff. He was able to coax polyphonic sounds and a sense of harmony out of two instruments which are mostly monophonic, and you really learn how to write a good melody. For two-part structure (bass+melody, the most important voices), check out his Inventions, and for 3-part, check out the French Suites. For heavier stuff, check out the Well-Tempered Clavier or B Minor Mass. It's mostly about being aware of how you're moving the voices, and how your parts are moving melodically... thinking of harmony as melody.

Obviously, there's a huge difference between Bach and something like funk or afrobeat, which are groove-based, but I think studying him is really helpful for writing parts that "just fit" with the rest of the band, or knowing how to keep strong harmonic structure with minimal instrumentation (solo, duo, etc).

Some other books to maybe consider:

Exploring Jazz Arranging (He also talks about Bach)

Contemporary Counterpoint

Tonal Counterpoint for the 21st Century Musician

Voice Leading: The Science Behind a Musical Art

u/qutx · 3 pointsr/classicalmusic

A collection of thoughts

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As has been said

> Don’t be afraid to build up a giant stack of half formed ideas on top of your piano.

Beethoven is notorious for his sketch books, and for playing with and developing ideas for years and years and years after the initial thought.

The original ideas for the 5th symphony are junk, for example. but he kept playing with it

get this book for more on this

https://www.amazon.com/Beethovens-Sketches-Analysis-Style-Sketch-Books/dp/0486230422/

part of music is the actual musical architecture and structure of the music. This is covered in the subject of "musical form" but this goes deeper

see this short video by whitacre on the subject

"Discovering the Golden Brick"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwjqptQ5R-w

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for more general instruction on the basics and the bigger issues of music composition, see this YT channel by Alan Belkin

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQ0TcIbY_VEk_KC406pRpg

for a more popular music perspective, see Rick Beato and related channels

https://www.youtube.com/user/pegzch

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One of the longest traditions in music education is the making of arrangements and transcriptions of other people's music. This seems to far more effective if you do it by hand, and copy out all the parts yourself (again by hand)

Bach arranged Vivaldi, Mozart arranged Bach, Beethoven arranged Handel, etc.

If these masters did this as part of their own musical studies, maybe you could so this for your own education, using the music you admire most.

Even if it is arranging the music to a new key or mode (major to minor, etc)

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As a general thing I recommend books by Charles Rosen for music of the Classical era

https://www.amazon.com/Sonata-Forms-Revised-Charles-Rosen/dp/0393302199

https://www.amazon.com/Classical-Style-Mozart-Beethoven-Expanded/dp/0393317129/

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Probably the best place to start is by writing "etudes" which basically means "Studies" You could also call them "Experiments".

These would be shortish pieces where you try out different things. Thus if you do not know which way to go with something, you try them all or most of them, and flesh them out into separate things. Each is an experiment.

one idea might give a dozen experiments (major vs minor, slow vs fast, 3/4 vs 4/4 vs 5/4 = 12 combinations)

As experiments, not everything has to work. (but you might come back to it later)

Nothing has to be perfect, They are experiments

Later own, you experiment with ways to make it better. (see the Beethoven sketches again)

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part of the musical problem of form is to how to continue something in order to maintain interest, without it getting boring for a variety of factors. Traditional forms are solid solutions to the problem but you can come up with your own.

As an example, check out the old popular songs of John Denver (!) many of which do not follow a conventional common practice song format. What is he doing there?

u/groovestrument · 1 pointr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

You're looking for a book on the basics of composition.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226732169/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The title says "A New Approach", but since the book was penned in 1988, you can hardly call it new anymore. Anyways, it's a pretty standard book on guiding you through the composition process. I used it back in the day, and I have all of my comp students use it.

Step one is to work through this book - it's got a lot of great practical exercises and tasks. Step two is to deconstruct some of the compositions that you enjoy (it's more fun that way), and try and notice the tools that they use to get the effects that you like. For example, if you like the way a particular bridge leads to the finale, find out why you like it! It is the instrumentation, the harmony, key change, etc? Figure it out, and then add it to your composition tool box. The last step is to deconstruct music that you know is profound/revolutionary, but that you don't necessarily enjoy. You'll still find some useful composition and arrangement techniques.

All while you are doing the above, constantly compose your own stuff. It doesn't have to be good, but it has to be something.

u/9rus · 1 pointr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

Well the first issue you talk about-- the assignment of notes in your chords to instruments of the orchestra-- is orchestration. Here are a couple of good textbooks that cover that:

u/john_rage · 2 pointsr/musictheory

A lot has already been said that needed to be said, but I want to add that little bits of writing everyday goes a long way. Like training for a long race, building up your creative stamina bit by bit will give you a lot of ability when sitting down to write.

There aren't a whole lot of inspiring books on composition, but reading books by composers (ex Schoenberg, Hindemeth, Messaien, etc...) will give you an interesting insight into their creative process. I'd also recommend The Muse that Sings which is a nice collection of interviews from major living composers who talk about their processes as well.

Other than that, learn theory/form, analyze a lot of music that you like, and learn instrumentation. The rest will be up to you.

u/jz05 · 1 pointr/Guitar

I'm in the same position as you. I've pretty much only played acoustic rhythm because I just wanted to hear myself play songs that I know. 90% of my playing has just been looking up the chords to songs I know and playing the crap out of them, which is fun, but eventually you want to move on.

I got an electric not even a week ago and figured now was a good time to actually learn about what I'm doing as opposed to just playing it blindly. I bought this book last night and went through the first couple chapters this morning. All I can say is WOW. Whenever I tried to learn scales and shit my eyes glazed over 5 minutes into it, but something about the way this book presents it just clicks with me.

Like I said I'm still pretty much at the very beginning of the book but it seems like a winner. I think it has like 150+ reviews on amazon so check those out if you want.

u/Sleutelbos · 88 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

A counter-melody is a 'less important' melody played against the primary melody. Historically there was a period when playing multiple melodies against each other was the absolute essence of music, and folks like Bach dominated (called 'counterpoint' music). A very famous example, that is 'simple' so easy to follow is Bach's Invention #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzU7xQmmXGE

His 'inventions' were for two melodies. He also wrote 'sinfonias' which were for three voices, and are a bit more complex, for example his Sinfonia No.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoZwnXDjbV0

Listening to this with headphones while trying to consciously follow all melodies is quite a peculiar experience. :)

And if you want to feel depressed and talentless, check from 10:54: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XCUcZ5KK7Q. Here he starts with the primary melody and then has the second melody join. This is exhausting to *really* listen to and my peanut brain is too small to ever hope to play something like this. Shredding? Sure, I can start slow, practice a ton and end up fast. But having both hands play *this* independently? Awe-inspiring. Sitting down and composing this on a piece of paper almost 400 years ago? Madness. :D

In baroque counterpoint the goal is to make every melody interesting in and of themselves, and make it sound 'effortless harmoniously together'. It should sound like these melodies were born together. In practice this aint easy at all and you'll be tempted to see one as the 'primary melody' and the others as 'subservient' where you can take shortcuts to make them fit the main melody. At that point it is no longer true counterpoint but you can still call it a counter-melody. Taken further you'll have things like arpeggios; parts that obviously fit the primary melody but are themselves so bland they are clearly accompaniment instead of a melody in their own right.

If you're interested, a very well-regarded (though rather pedantic) book that starts at the basic and offers exercises is the many century old https://www.amazon.com/Study-Counterpoint-Johann-Joseph-Parnassum/dp/0393002772. If you want to go *really* old-school you can go as close to the original here: http://hz.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/3/31/IMSLP370587-PMLP187246-practicalrulesfo00fuxj.pdf

I think it'll help most songwriters/composers to know the basics, even if you dont care about classical counterpoint at all. :)

u/ILikeasianpeople · 5 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

Hey, I’m kind of a book junkie when it comes to common practice stuff, so I’m gonna throw a bunch of em at ya. The common practice era of composition can be broken down into 3 major fields of study: Form/Composition, Harmony and Orchestration. Form/composition is about how music develops over time harmonically and melodically. Harmony is about how vertical sonorities interact with one another, this is one of the most fleshed out aspects of music theory. Orchestration, usually the capstone discipline, dives into how groups of instruments interact with one another on a harmonic level and a melodic one. Harmony+composition can be studied simultaneously considering there is so much overlap, orchestration usually comes after you have a middling understanding of the other two subjects.

There are a bunch of free online materials on these subjects, but here is my personal favorite:
http://openmusictheory.com/contents.html

There are also a few free books on harmony, orchestration and composition, but most of them were published a very long time ago. As a consequence, you may run into outdated or poorly explained concepts.

Harmony:

Guide to the Practical Study of Harmony

Orchestration:

Principles of Orchestration

Composition:

Fundamentals of music Composition

Exercises in Melody Writing

Most of the stuff with comprehensive+up to date information on these subjects is going to be something you pay for. Here are my favorite textbooks. One thing I value in a textbook is an accompanying workbook and/or some sort of exercise based learning, so I’ll be listing the workbooks (if applicable) as well.

Melody in Songwriting

Craft of Musical Composition Parts One and Two

Models For Beginners in Composition

Harmonic Practice in Tonal Music

Workbook for Harm Practice

The Study of Orchestration

Workbook for The Study of Orchestration

This isn’t an exhaustive list but it’s pretty solid.


Recording orchestras is out of reach for most, so you’ll probably need some good VSTs to use and some knowledge of how to make them sound ‘real’. Building an orchestra template is key to making music quickly and efficiently. It’s a massive headache to have to wait for Kontakt to load and instrument every time you want to add a flute or violin to your score. Here are the basics of what you’ll need:


Woodwinds:

Flutes

Clarinets

Saxophones

Oboes

Bassoons



Brass:

French horns

Trumpets

Trombones

Tubas

“Low brass”


Strings:

1st Violins

2nd Violins

Violas

Cellos

Bass

First chairs of each


Others:

PIANOS

Harps

Choirs

Guitars

Vibraphones

Glockenspiels

Etc


Orchestral percussion

Concert Toms

Taikos

Snares

Concert bass drums


Here are some places to get all of that:

Audio Bro (the ARC system is awesome)

Spitfire

8Dio

Orchestral Tools (my favorite)

CineSamples

EastWest Sounds

Heres a resource to make all of that stuff sound ‘real’. It’s a lot more difficult then you may think.

The Guide to MIDI Orchestration 4e

u/scientologist2 · 3 pointsr/composer
sonata #1 sounds like a psuedo Beethoven/Liszt

sonata #2 sounds like a young psuedo Mozart. It sort of feels like you are trying to stuff the music into the form, like trying to stuff a genii into a bottle. The Genii doesn't always cooperate.

-)

sonata #3 sounds like a psuedo Mozart, but is much more masterful than your earlier efforts. it is the more accomplished, and seems much more listenable and enjoyable. It sounds like you are starting to put in additional layers so that everything isn't obvious on the first go around. This is a very good thing to do. It sounds like you are starting to have fun with the form. It has a good flow.

Keep this up, and we won't have to shoot the critics.

Recommended reading: Charles Rosen: Sonata Forms





u/PunkTheBrad · 3 pointsr/composer

Just 2 main comments:



  1. Pay much more attention to your orchestration. It was too blurry to see the finer details, but there are many things that can be done better. For starters: there is no need for there to be 6 key changes in the first 30 or so measures. Aurally it works, but just add in accidentals for sections that modulate successively, otherwise it looks sloppy. In a similar vein, never show people a non-transposing score. It's great for a composer's purposes, but it actually makes reading it more difficult for others (especially conductors). Little mistakes like random dynamics in resting instruments and unnecessary subdivided rests can add up; and there are places where you obviously want it slurred, so be sure to add them. Also, I don't know if you are a singer, but generally in instrumental scores crescendos are notated below the single-staff instruments and in-between instruments on a grand staff. These are a just a few of the problems I saw, but just know to always go through your piece with a fine tooth comb. I very much recommend this book and looking at other scores as much as possible. It pretty much will answer any orchestrational and notational question you may have (that is, aside from many contemporary techniques)



  2. Aurally, the piece is interesting, and although I understand that you meant to not repeat any of the themes, I disagree with the final outcome because of it. It needs to have some sort of form or unifying factor for the listener, especially in a piece this filmscore-like. The piece is so harmonically and melodically standard that the lack of form just seems odd and causes the ending to be abrupt. Hell, the unifying factor could be something as simple as a single triangle attack or snare drum role, just something that makes if feel less like a random assortment of themes that for some reason ends in the middle.



    That all being said, the themes are very intriguing and I would love to hear them expanded and varied a bit. You plant many seeds for a large scale work, but it ultimately ends before it come to fruition. Of course, you can disagree and disregard any or all of these comments if you want, that's your right as the composer. However, I do think you should take my first comment to heart. I reiterate this mainly because you are using this as an audition piece, and the very first thing they will do is read through the score without the music (so you want your first impression to be a good one). People really do appreciate a clean score, though it is the most tedious and time consuming part of the compositional process (and the part I personally hate the most). Good luck in your endeavors and never stop composing.
u/DanielleMuscato · 2 pointsr/Guitar

If you already have a guitar you love, and you already have a versatile amp that can hook up to your computer as an interface, you're in pretty good shape.

Here are some of the best things you can own to improve your playing, if you don't already have them:

  • Metronome

  • Tuner pedal

  • Looper pedal (TC Electronic Ditto or Ditto X2 are popular choices)

  • Sight-reading books like this one or this one

  • Music theory books like this one or this one

    If you only have 1 or 2 pedals you don't need a pedalboard.

    If you are interested in pedals but don't know what you want, a multi-effect unit is a great choice.

    If you're looking for an all-in-one effect unit & guitar trainer, this is a good choice. It has a built-in tuner, metronome (rare on pedals or multi-FX units), pre-programmed rhythm patterns for jamming, an aux-input for playing along to MP3s, a whole bunch of effects that you can use like a standard effects pedal, and a bunch of other stuff.
u/rcochrane · 6 pointsr/guitarlessons

Cool... alongside the technical stuff (which you'll obviously need) I would definitely spend some time learning some theory to help with the composing.

If you want to do that the "slow and hard way" (but actually quicker and easier than messing around on the internet) I suggest getting a basic harmony textbook and working your way through it. Do all the exercises in a MIDI sequencer so you can hear the results. The book I used back in the day was Piston, but almost any harmony book will probably do. Then get a counterpoint book and do the same thing. Those are strong foundations, and it's stuff you can do away from the guitar. If you get the book and find you're not ready for it, work through the beginner resources in the sidebar of /r/musictheory and then try again.

Aside from that:

  • Learn songs and try to figure out how they're put together.

  • Compose your own stuff, even if you don't show it to anyone.

  • Work on ear training. Learn your intervals and chord qualities and sing everything, even if it sounds bad.

  • Learn your scales (or here if you want more theory).

  • You'll need to develop a high level of technique. See here for some pointers. One thing that's worked well for me in the past is to pick one exercise and spend a month on it, recording my top metronome mark each day. Be careful not to hurt yourself.

  • Always make time to work on your rhythm. There comes a point for a lot of players where this is the most important thing holding them back.

    A month is a good unit of time to learn something. If you sit down and make a month-by-month plan for the next two years mixing up these elements you should make very solid progress.

    I'm sure others will have more genre-specific advice, though!
u/_wormburner · 2 pointsr/musictheory

Here's some other stuff for people interested:

Joe Straus' Introduction to Post Tonal Theory

u/fantasticmrbond · 5 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

I download short films on archive.org and mute the sound, and practice scoring to them.

I also wasn't finding much work in film, so I started writing music for indie video game developers. Winifred Phillip's book has been very useful to me (it's a big picture kind of understanding with plenty of practical advice) and I just started reading Aaron Marks' book which has some good stuff in it.

Someone also recently told me about scorbit (started by Berklee I think), which I personally haven't used much but have heard good things. You can set up a free account with them which is nice.

YouTube is filled with great (and shitty) advice. Honestly, I have more sources than I have time to explore anymore, so I'm just picking a few, and doing the hell out of them.

Also, the TigSource forums are great!

u/ryouba · 3 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

http://www.amazon.com/Instrumentation-Orchestration-Alfred-Blatter/dp/0534251870/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278516600&sr=8-1

This book is one of my favorite sources for orchestration and just getting ideas about how different timbres interplay with one another.

As far as composing better, the best thing that you can do is make a bunch of pieces. Sure, some of the pieces aren't going to be that great, but you're going to eventually find bits that you really like. When you do that, you can requote those portions in other works and really start honing in on getting the piece to work together within itself.

Try writing three pieces in one day (similar to the as-many-songs-as-possible songwriting challenge). If that seems too easy, bump the number up. The more and more that you compose without overthinking what you are doing, the more likely that you will let your unbridled creativity flow. When the juice starts to flow, then you will be amazed at what you didn't know you knew.

u/natetet · 2 pointsr/musictheory

Here are two awesome books:

  • Composing Music, by Tony Russo
  • The Composer's Handbook by Bruce Cole

    They are both chock-full of awesome, fun exercises. (I love exercises because it's a great way to learn about composition and practice composition without launching the inner dialogue of "omg i am writing a composition is this any good?" Exercises let you practice writing without the inner critic, just like you practice pieces outside of a performance context, etc.)

    Can you give more information about your field of study? What skills do you think you'll need?
u/astrobeen · 2 pointsr/composer

Great job! Everything I wrote when I was 17 was shit, so congrats on being awesome!

Nice resolutions and voice leading! Try to avoid the parallel resolutions between the vln2 and cello that pop up from time to time. A good mental discipline is that every time a voice resolved to a root or a fifth of a harmony, make sure it’s contrary.

I’m not sure if you’ve been exposed to Fux Modal Counterpoint, but you should learn it and live by it if you want to compose in the Baroque, classical, or romantic idioms.

https://www.amazon.com/Study-Counterpoint-Johann-Joseph-Parnassum/dp/0393002772

Best of luck!

u/WorkedInTheory · 7 pointsr/drumcorps

Without question, the best way to learn how to arrange is to put in the work transcribing some of your favorite arrangers and dissecting the way they approach things.

Study the chord progressions they use and analyze their voicing. Break down how they use counterpoint vs. countermelody. Pay attention to how they use every single voice, common articulations, and where in the range do they have each part "live" (1st vs. 2nd vs 3rd).

Write down what you observe about how they do things, try to put it into words. Compare/contrast between arrangers. This will help you better internalize what they are doing and help you to find your own style.

But...

Before doing any of this, however, I suggest to read, read, read. Here are a few books to get your started:

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The Study of Counterpoint - Johann Joseph Fux

https://www.amazon.com/Study-Counterpoint-Johann-Joseph-Parnassum/dp/0393002772/

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Contemporary Counterpoint: Theory & Application - Beth Denisch

https://www.amazon.com/Contemporary-Counterpoint-Theory-Application-Music/dp/0876391838

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Guide to the Practical Study of Harmony - Peter Ilyitch Tchaikovsky

https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Practical-Study-Harmony-Dover-ebook/dp/B00DGBMH06

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Principles of Orchestration - Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakov

https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Orchestration-Dover-Books-Music-ebook/dp/B00DGBMDNM

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Essential Dictionary of Orchestration - Dave Black & Tom Gerou

https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Dictionary-Orchestration-Comprehensive-Orchestrators-ebook/dp/B00EUMY7LC

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Treatise on Instrumentation - Hector Berlioz & Richard Strauss

https://www.amazon.com/Treatise-Instrumentation-Dover-Books-Music-ebook/dp/B00DGBMN8C

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Arranging for Horns - Jerry Gates

https://www.amazon.com/Arranging-Horns-Jerry-Gates/dp/0876391455/

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Another excellent resource is Bandestration - https://bandestration.com/

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BONUS:

Another great read that is HIGHLY applicable to writing for marching music is:

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Fundamentals of Musical Acoustics

https://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-Musical-Acoustics-Second-Revised/dp/048626484X

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If you are interested to explore interplay between wind/percussion arranging and electronics:

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Acoustic and MIDI Orchestration for the Contemporary Composer - Andrea Pejrolo

https://www.amazon.com/Acoustic-MIDI-Orchestration-Contemporary-Composer/dp/113880150X/

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u/Ekvitarius · 1 pointr/Baroque

Ars nova has a really nice entry level text on their website if you’re just getting started. For a more complete introduction, check out the book “Music Theory ” by George Thaddeus Jones. That’s the one I started with, and while it’s very thorough in its discussion of musical concepts, its treatment of counterpoint is not my favorite. Something is definitely lost when the inner voices are treated as mere filler. Amazon and goodreads both gave it 4 stars. I feel like the ars nova text holds the readers hand a bit better and has the added bonus of being able to hear the examples. It also includes a chord progression game based on root movement principles). Though it’s missing some information here and there, so definitely check both texts out (yes, even though you probably understand some of their contents anyway) And of course, there’s the Gradus as Parnassum, the Bible of counterpoint that Bach praised and practically all subsequent composers learned from (though the rules presented there are über-strict!). It’s written as a dialogue between a student and a master which is absolutely brilliant.

If you’re looking to compose in the baroque style, there’s a good textbook called “Baroque Counterpoint ” by Peter Schubert and Christoph Niedhöfer, though the introduction says that you already need to know scales, figured base, 4-part voice leading, how to harmonize a melody, how to use non harmony tones, and some basic keyboard skills. It mostly (but not entirely) focuses on fugue and imitative counterpoint in general. So, it’s intended for the musically literate. Don’t go there until you’ve got a good framework to build on.

You also ought to have a collection of Bach’s chorales on hand as they are good examples for beginners to analyze and model on. Here’s 40 of them. Remember- analysis consists of more than just labeling chords; it involves INTERPRETING how all the different musical features contribute to the piece.

As a final note, remember- you don’t HAVE to fallow the rules all the time in your own music, but they’re still worth learning.

u/D4ruth · 18 pointsr/classicalmusic

15-20 minutes is going to be pretty ambitious for your first classical composition! It'd be a real treat if you pull it off.

First, find some tutorials on the internet for reading sheet music. There's tons of them and it's not worth getting a textbook for; it's just something that needs constant practice. Once you're reasonably fluent in sheet music, you've won half the battle.

Second, get the fifth edition of Walter Piston's Harmony. It starts out with the very basics - scales and intervals - and proceeds to cover all the important contrapuntal and harmonic practices of the Common Practice era, then gets into some modern stuff at the end. It also has exercises for the reader to work out. However, it assumes you can already read sheet music.

If you have the time, I'd recommend teaching yourself the basics of piano as well, just enough to know your way around a keyboard. It's a terrific visual aid when it comes to classical music and theory. Some famous composers got by without it though (most notably Berlioz).

u/eaglesbecomevultures · 3 pointsr/classicalmusic

Sure! Here are a few that have helped me out:

The textbook that my school uses for beginning theory classes is The Complete Musician by Steven Laitz. It is a pretty comprehensive look at tonality, covering the very basics through 19th century theory. Isn't too pricey either: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Musician-Integrated-Approach-Listening/dp/0199742782

Fux's Gradus ad Parnassum is a great place to begin working on counterpoint: http://www.amazon.com/Study-Counterpoint-Johann-Joseph-Parnassum/dp/0393002772/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368896313&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=gradus+ad+parnasam+fux

Samuel Adler's The Study of Orchestration is my current go to book when researching the basics of different instruments and orchestration techniques: http://www.amazon.com/Study-Orchestration-Third-Samuel-Adler/dp/039397572X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368896395&sr=1-1&keywords=samuel+adler+orchestration

Lastly, once you feel you have developed a solid foundation with your theory knowledge, I can't stress enough the importance of studying/analyzing scores. It is (in my opinion) the best way of learning how to compose. One can learn so much from one score!

u/Xenoceratops · 1 pointr/musictheory

Composing does not have to happen in a step-by-step order, and everybody is different. I recommend that you start by imitating pieces that you like. You probably won't get something individualistic or original out of this practice, but it is a good way to get your composition legs. It has been said that composition is the art of limitation. Give yourself parameters to go off of. "ABA form, start with a C minor triad, end with an F augmented triad, and don't use any other triads in between" is a lot more to go off of than nothing at all.

There are books and such too, but they are certainly not necessary. http://www.amazon.com/Composing-Music-A-New-Approach/dp/0226732169

It is more important that you take inspiration from the world around you and transmute your intellectual observations into musical objects.

u/DoctorWalnut · 1 pointr/musictheory

> Was it to simply introduce something more melodically interesting?

I can only assume so. The bass's independence is thematically necessary since it's where the opening motif is repeated. It gives meaning to the G-E-D-G-E-D line. If a line has structural/thematic significance, it should remain independent so the listener can pick it out.

I can't tell if the vocals or the instrumental was written first, sorry. Reading material on this subject would be any harmony/counterpoint book you can find. You seem pretty knowledgeable about those topics already though, so maybe it's just getting the style down. Books like [this] (http://imslp.org/wiki/Guide_to_the_Practical_Study_of_Harmony_%28Tchaikovsky,_Pyotr%29) and this. You may have read those already as they're pretty popular. If you haven't, you can most likely find them for free somewhere.

u/I_luv_harpsichord · 3 pointsr/musictheory

I took an arranging course for my music degree and I really love the textbook they made us purchase. It's this! http://www.amazon.com/Study-Orchestration-Third-Samuel-Adler/dp/039397572X/
I personally think it's very helpful. :) I know it's expensive, but I think the investment is worth it.

As for counterpoint, I like Joseph Fux! There was a textbook that I used, but unfortunately I don't remember it. (It's at home and I live at an off-campus apartment) http://www.amazon.com/Study-Counterpoint-Johann-Joseph-Parnassum/dp/0393002772

I hope this helps :) But if you want somethiing free there's this .... http://imslp.org/wiki/Principles_of_Orchestration_%28Rimsky-Korsakov,_Nikolay%29

u/jdwmusic · 11 pointsr/musictheory

Here's a couple that I've found useful:

u/realfaustus · 7 pointsr/composer

As a long-time user and refuge of Sibelius, I begrudgingly recommend Finale. It's actually pretty decent. The most important thing is that when you make your choice to learn everything you can about the software itself. If you can master all of the shortcuts and hotkeys it will make your life much easier.

Also, I recommend buying a book on instrumentation and orchestration. Alfred Blatter's book (link below) in particular was the one I used throughout college and even now. Good luck!

http://www.amazon.com/Instrumentation-Orchestration-Alfred-Blatter/dp/0534251870

u/Zalenka · 7 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

The library.


Seriously, if you have a University nearby go to that library. They will have tons of great books on basic theory, harmony and other such things.

For actual books I recommend Paul Hindemith's Elementary Training for Musicians or Arnold Schoenberg's Theory of Harmony, there is also a workbook for the harmony book, but I can't find the link.


Both of these composers were seen as avant garde at the time and some of schoenberg's stuff is difficult to listen to (12 tone), but they both were incredibly influencial writers and educators and their books are pretty much the standard for learning theory that encompasses all of classical music history.

Go to your library, if they have it great! Otherwise interlibrary loan both books and read them. Play your instrument with them and write out some of the things on music manuscript paper for you to remember.

u/zaccus · 2 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

Any melody can be accompanied by an almost endless number of chord changes, so there's no one "correct" way to do it.

The oldest way to do this is a technique called counterpoint. Long story short, you first write a bass part under your main melody, favoring contrary or oblique motion over parallel motion, and avoiding parallel 5ths and octaves as much as possible. The bass part should make sense as its own melody, ideally.

Then fill in a middle voice, again its own melody, observing the rules of counterpoint with respect to the other 2 melodies already written. When you're done with the 3rd voice, you have a basic chord progression.

You might want to repeat with a 4th melody or more after that, but you'll find that subsequent melodies are less interesting because your options are pretty narrow at that point. That's why alto parts tend to suck.

If this seems interesting to you at all, I highly recommend the classic Study of Counterpoint. It's been out for almost 300 years but it has a unique narrative-style approach and is a lot of fun to work through. Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, et. al. would have been familiar with it.

OTOH, if this seems like overkill, then just sit down with a piano or guitar, pick a key, start with something structured around I-IV-V-I or I-vi-ii-V-I or something, and go from there. Again, there's no one correct chord progression. Just find something that tastes good in your ears.

u/parkerpyne · 3 pointsr/classicalmusic

\> This composition was focused on the balance and elegance of the Classical era (like Mozart and Haydn).

It doesn't quite achieve that either, mind you. The following paragraphs sound harsh but aren't intended to be.

There are lot of what I would call mechanical mistakes. Take the second bar. You shift an E-major chord up a second to F#-major, all voices moving in parallel. And then you compound it by the F#-C# to B-F# parallel fifths in the cello, viola and second violin. You will not find anything like this in the body of works of Haydn or Mozart. It's just a simple violation of rules that cannot happen when you strive to write in the Classical style.

Aside from these types of formal issues, there is something that takes much longer to get right and it has to do with all these unwritten rules that you would find implemented in every Mozart and Haydn sonata movement. The second theme appears to be presented in bar 17 and it is according to the standard rules in the dominant. So far so good. The problem is that you are missing the transition from first to second theme. The first section is just a repeat and alternation of two-bar motives. The 16 bars entirely consist of three chords: B-major, E-major and F#-major. And then, after ending on the tonic B-major, you introduce the second theme in the dominant F# but you never established that key, and it needs to be.

According to classical rules it requires either a cadence on the dominant, often introduced via vi which in the case of B-major would be like a g#-minor chord with the third in the base but more correctly denoted as B^(6), or a half-cadence on the double-dominant C#-major. You have neither and you don't have a single reference to the new leading tone E#, and you kind of do need it to convincingly present the second theme in the new key.

Whole books have been written specifically about how Classical composers treated the sonata form. I recommend Charles Rosen's Sonata Form or The Classical Style by the same author. These are incredible books and eye-opening. I keep repeating this and a lot of people don't believe it but the Classical era was the height of formalism in music. Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven were the most comprehensively trained composers in history. They had to be. They knew everything that Bach did but in addition to that they had mastery of the far richer structural and harmonic principles and rules of the Classical era (which, actually, they created themselves). That's why a scholar such as Charles Rosen spend his whole life (well, apart from performing as a pianist) on studying what made Classical music Classical.

But not to worry. It seems this competition that you won is for young (as in teen) composers. I've taken part in various composition competitions myself decades ago (and never really won anything). You'll figure it out. But do get these Charles Rosen books. When I read them for the first time they elevated my appreciation and understanding of classical music to an entirely new level.

u/PaulMorel · 2 pointsr/gamedev

As others have pointed out already, there are a lot of different ways to generate procedural content. Some algorithms work well at certain tasks, while others don't work well for those tasks.

In my experience, it's really difficult to come up with one algorithm that is so versatile that it can do everything. Usually, a layered approach is what ends up working, with multiple algorithms stacked on top of each other.

I strongly encourage you to get started on working some of this stuff out. Procedural content generation can be much more difficult than it looks, especially if you want to generate material on the fly (as opposed to generating something then editing it before using fixed materials in the game). It usually takes a lot of experimentation and a lot of trial and error to figure out what works and what doesn't. What sounds good in your head is usually far from perfect in practice.

I'd also strongly encourage you to do some reading on the subject. I mostly deal with algorithmic music, so I can suggest books on that. Algorithmic Composition covers AI algorithms that can be used for procedural content generation in almost any area. Maybe someone else can suggest a book that deals with game content?

Another good thing to study is noise algorithms. Perlin Noise is a type of noise that is incredibly versatile and adaptable. Also, the algorithm for generating Perlin Noise is relatively simple and available in most game environments. I strongly encourage you to explore that.

You will find that naive noise algorithms, such as pure randomness, are largely ineffective, but with slight modifications, and a little bit of study, you can find other noise (= data) algorithms that are still simple, but possibly useful, such as Brownian Motion.

Anyway, some things to think about.

u/LURVE_DEM_TITTIES · 1 pointr/piano

This might be miserable at first, but if you want to get the maximum amount of development for your composition, I recommend these two books:

http://www.amazon.com/Scales-Arpeggios-Cadences-Alfreds-Library/dp/0739012975

^ This comes with cadences. Learn to play scales, arpeggios, and cadences. All of them.

http://www.amazon.com/Harmony-Fifth-Walter-Piston/dp/0393954803

^ This book will teach you pretty much everything you'll want to know about harmony and composition. Highly recommended.

u/amphibian87 · 1 pointr/musictheory

William Russo's "Composing Music a New Approach" answers your question very well. Basically the author presents a rudimentary ensemble that can be thought of as a game, with certain rules.

In Chapter 12, titled "Imitation: A Useful Game," he identifies 7 rules and shows examples. Basically one player introduces a "simple figuration of one or two measures," then the next player player either imitates the first figure or introduces their unique figure. Each player is only allowed 1 unique figure, they can rest at any time, and they can imitate at any time (and not necessarily consecutively).

The examples explain it better than the text, but this "game" is basically a band. This helps with the rhythm and melody aspect, while the harmony and structure would probably benefit from a composition or thematic approach.

u/m_Theory_ · 1 pointr/MaxMSP

If you want to do sound synthesis with MSP, check out this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Music-Sound-Design-Practice/dp/8890548401/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1371667980&sr=1-5&keywords=sound+design


You can check out Todd Winkler's book for ideas for control data and MIDI:

http://www.amazon.com/Composing-Interactive-Music-Techniques-Ideas/dp/0262731398/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1371668024&sr=1-1&keywords=todd+winkler


Check out this guy's youtube tutorials, definitely some of the best that I've found, he's making cool sounds, and you can probably get a lot from building along with him, (I'm pretty sure he works at Cycling'74)

http://www.youtube.com/user/dude837?feature=watch

u/sanganeer · 1 pointr/piano

If you are already comfortable with reading and playing simple material on the piano with good technique, etc. You might start with the second book in a series--Bastien's, Alfred's, John Thompsons, etc. But honestly it'd be good review if you're just coming back to it to start with the first book in a series to improve your fundamentals.

If you're not interested in learning to read music for piano much, I can't really think of a book that works with that. Maybe this book. You might just try putting together chord progressions using music theory and ultimateguitar.com. Just chords and a bass note to begin. Fancy stuff later.

u/spoonopoulos · 19 pointsr/musictheory

There are a lot of courses. Any specific topics you're interested in?

Edit: I'll just list a few anyway that I've used in classes (this may not reflect all professors' choices for the same subjects).

Tonal Harmony: Kostka-Payne - Tonal Harmony

Counterpoint 1: A Berklee book by the late professor Rick Applin. Some also use this Fux translation/adaptation

Counterpoint 2: Bach Inventions & Sinfonias (any edition, really)

"Advanced" Counterpoint: The Well-Tempered Clavier (again, any edition)

Early Twentieth-Century Harmony: Persichetti - Twentieth-Century Harmony

Post-Tonal Theory/Analysis: Straus - Intro to Post-Tonal Theory

Instrumentation/Orchestration: Adler - The Study of Orchestration &
Casella/Mortari - The Technique of Contemporary Orchestration

Western Music History - Burkholder/Paiisca - A History of Western Music (8th or 9th edition)

Conducting 1 - Notion Conducting

Conducting 2 Notion + Stravinsky's Petrushka

Berklee's own (jazz-based) core harmony and ear-training curricula use Berklee textbooks written by professors which, as someone else mentioned, come unbound and shrink-wrapped at the bookstore. You can find older (PDF) versions of the Berklee harmony textbooks here. Of course this list only represents explicit book choices - there are a lot of excerpt-readings, and there's a lot of instruction that isn't found in these books even in the associated courses.

u/Nolubrication · 8 pointsr/Guitar

Best $20 you'll ever spend.

And here's a one page "cheat sheet" I made for practice. Prints out nicely on standard 8.5 x 11.

The most basic explanation of chords is that they're made up of a root (1st), a 3rd and a 5th. Minor chords have a flatted (half step down) 3rd.

A good exercise is to harmonize a scale. That means you play the scale, not one note at a time, but by playing chords (constructed by using a note from the scale as the root). So, instead of simply playing the individual notes of the scale C,D,E,F,G,A,B, you play the chords C, Dm, Em, F, G, Am, Bdim. Note the 7 chord is diminished (flat 3rd and flat 5th).

That's also what is meant by "singing in harmony". The melody line is triple voiced, with a 3rd and a 5th, accompanying the root. To start, for purposes of exercise, your melody will be simply an ascending/descending scale.

Follow the major/minor pattern for chord progressions (see "cheat sheet", where lower case = minor, upper = major). Note that arpeggios are just the roots, 3rds and 5ths of the scale. So, if you know your arpeggios, creating chords from any root is super simple.

u/VictorMih · 3 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

I'd say build yourself a portfolio with various styles and post it to your website or Soundcloud. You must include it in e-mails. Do contact local studios first, you'll have better luck connecting if you're somewhat close for meetings. I got lots of gigs by e-mailing studios or people I simply stumbled upon on social media. If you're into programmer circles you're surely gonna connect eventually. Also try going to indie meetings to network.

One thing to keep in mind is don't get discouraged by lack of replies. Bigger or rapidly expanding studios generally react very slow (if at all) and generally require prior experience - even if it only consists of indie work.

Also here's a book that really got me going into the mindset of a game music composer: http://www.amazon.com/Composers-Guide-Game-Music-Press/dp/0262026643?ie=UTF8&keywords=composing%20for%20games&qid=1465410856&ref_=sr_1_3&sr=8-3

Good luck!

u/amliebsten · 1 pointr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

I'm a composer by trade (now working toward a PhD in Composition) and I don't know one book that introduces composing well, or at all. I got started in high school, just writing little pieces for myself and friends to play. I just kept at it all these years, through college, grad school and now.

What I found helpful along the way was to learn and be the pro at music theory. After all, music theory is a bunch of rules formulated based on what other people people from long long before have written. One thing to work hard on is counterpoint. It's a step by step on how to write good lines, good secondary lines and basically gives you a very rough idea of what works and what doesn't work. Of course, this is based in the tonal tradition. This is my recommended book. It's written in the socratic style, so just beware. Otherwise, this is what people use in school today.

Again, orchestration is important if you want to write for acoustic instruments. See my comment below~

My advice would be to JUST START WRITING! If its bad, you will know it is and why it's bad. Sometimes, you need a little help. PM me if you want me to look at some things you've done.

u/MDShimazu · 3 pointsr/musictheory

If you would like to end with Chopin, you only need to study tonal theory. So twelve tone topics are not of any use since that topic is 20th century, after tonality.

If you didn't do voice leading (SATB harmony): Are you interested in voice leading? If you want to get to the more advanced topics of tonal theory, you'll need to cover that. If so I would suggest this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Musicians-Guide-Theory-Analysis-Third/dp/0393600491/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1535936804&sr=1-1&keywords=clendinning+theory

Have you done species counterpoint? Species counterpoint will be very helpful in dealing with just about all music. I would recommend Fux's book:

https://www.amazon.com/Study-Counterpoint-Johann-Joseph-Parnassum/dp/0393002772/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1535936929&sr=1-1&keywords=fux+counterpoint

If you've already done species counterpoint: For more advanced counterpoint (not useful for Chopin, but necessary for anything with fugues in it, obviously) I would suggest Mann's book:

https://www.amazon.com/Study-Fugue-Dover-Books-Music/dp/0486254399

For a complete discussion of forms I would suggest Berry's book:

https://www.amazon.com/Form-Music-2nd-Wallace-Berry/dp/0133292851

For an in depth and modern discussion of sonata theory (remember that symphonies are also often times in sonata form), I would suggest Hepokoski's book:

https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Sonata-Theory-Deformations-Late-Eighteenth-Century/dp/0199773912/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1535937360&sr=1-1&keywords=hepokoski+sonata

If you already know species counterpoint and voice leading you can study Schenkarian Analysis. For this there's two books I would suggest:

https://www.amazon.com/Analysis-Tonal-Music-Schenkerian-Approach/dp/0199732477/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1535937496&sr=1-1&keywords=schenkerian+analysis

https://www.amazon.com/Tonal-Analysis-Schenkerian-David-Damschroder/dp/0393283798/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1535937488&sr=1-2&keywords=schenkerian+analysis

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If you're interested in composition, that's the other side of the coin and so all the above are of limited use. Let me know if you want books for composition.

u/auditorycheesecake · 3 pointsr/edmproduction

Theres a great book called A Composer's Guide to game Music that I really enjoyed. It'll help you get more into the mindset of producing for video games and what that normally entails.

I think the biggest thing is to think about what type of game music you want to write and look for resources specific to that. I.e. do you want to write for indie games, AAA, fighters, phone games, etc...

u/kingpatzer · 2 pointsr/Guitar_Theory

Music theory is not different on a guitar than on any other instrument. And it gets very hard to get music theory correct when it is taught by largely self-taught guitarists, because they have a tendency to think every shape they play requires a name (a trait shared by musicians on most chromatic instruments).

Go get a basic music theory book like Music Theory for Dummies or Music Theory: From Begginer to Expert. After youv'e gone through and really understood what's in those texts, you'll be ready for more advanced stuff like Mark Levine's Jazz Theory or Walter Piston's books such as Harmony or Counterpoint.

Alternately you could look at texts on arranging and orchestration at that point as well.

Stay away from instrument specific texts, particularly those related to chromatic instruments (of which the guitar is one) because you'll almost find something that is a well-intended, but mistaken, concept. Also avoid texts aimed at Berkelee school of music. While they are a great school in terms of their performance degrees, they have an odd fascination with modes that is shared by virtually no other music school in the world.

u/ForNeverRachel · 3 pointsr/audioengineering

There are very good books on Amazon which might get you started on game audio. Some links :

Game Sound: An Introduction to the History, Theory, and Practice of Video Game Music and Sound Design
A Composer's Guide to Game Music
The Complete Guide to Game Audio: For Composers, Musicians, Sound Designers, Game Developers

About the audio engines (audio middleware), the two big ones are FMOD and Wise (when the studio is not using its own middleware). There are some tutorials on Youtube which might get you started on that. It's essential to know the basics of sound integration (I mean how to use FMOD/Wise with game engines) if you want to work in video games.

Also, come join us over at /r/gameaudio

u/bloozman5 · 1 pointr/composertalk

When limitations are self-imposed, you always have the option to go beyond them if your piece calls for it. I think that working within limitations can lead to inspiration, which you can then follow. Sometimes that means abandoning those initial principles, but often times the material doesn't call for that. Limitation exercises are also good because you force yourself to try something you've never done before, which can lead to a personal sense of style. Composing Music by William Russo is a great resource for exploring new techniques through a variety of limitation exercises. i'd highly recommend checking it out, it totally changed the way i write. http://www.amazon.com/Composing-Music-A-New-Approach/dp/0226732169.

u/schwibbity · 2 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

If you're talking about orchestral composition at all, you'll need to know quite a bit about instrumentation and orchestration as well. Alfred Blatter has an excellent book on that. As for composition in general, you'll need to read up a bit on music theory, if you're not already familiar with it. This is the book I used in college; it has a variety of composition exercises with various restrictions, and is a great place to start.

u/_t3n0r_ · 3 pointsr/musictheory

I was thinking advanced jazz. I'm a theory and jazz keys major at unt and I'm trying to surpass my curriculum. Like I've already read this book and made sense and put it into practice. But i want not obscure scales to play with the super funky chords I'm using

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0873959922/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_uaNkDbY7SWESB

u/beanwolf · 2 pointsr/MachineLearning

There are lots of people who have approached automatic composition before. (don't know if that's encouraging or discouraging)

This book gives a good overview of the different approaches, which might give you a better idea of where to leap off:
http://www.amazon.com/Algorithmic-Composition-Paradigms-Automated-Generation/dp/3211999159/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1341245959&sr=8-2&keywords=automated+composition

For your goals, you might want to read the sections on grammars, markov models, or neural networks, which tend to focus on the high level structural aspects. A lot of the other stuff is unrelated.

About rendering as sheet music, I found this interesting library:
http://www.vexflow.com/

u/HashPram · 3 pointsr/composer

"Composing Music: A New Approach" by William Russo is pretty good. I've been working through it for a few months now as I get time. It's aimed more at people with moderate musical experience than experienced composers but it deals with minimalism, cells, rows, a freer approach to harmony (than Classical harmony), picture music and so on. It approaches each topic mainly by setting you composition exercises - short pieces mainly - with a little bit of explanation, so if you're after something that's heavy on theory this won't be for you.

u/CRMannes · 2 pointsr/classicalmusic

Gradus ad Parnassum. Know it, love it, make it your friend.

u/Baron310 · 1 pointr/composer

Thanks for the in depth reply! I actually found another option which was I found a classical composition teacher (been teaching for a couple decades) who starts students off with Walter Piston's Harmony 5th edition -- Would you recommend this as opposed to the self-taught route?

u/DialSquare84 · 1 pointr/musictheory

Personally, I've always thought of music and mathematics as being interrelated. Of course, the two can be completely distinct, but if you're looking to teach, you'll need to be somewhat oracular - and that will cover the more arcane aspects of music theory (which can be quite mathematical; similar to set/group theory and combinatorics).

It's worth looking into some advanced music theory to ensure that you don't balk away from it as you have done CS.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Theory-Harmony-SUNY-Cultural-Perspectives/dp/0873959922/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FF5ZKSDSY5A7N7210870

Have a 'Look Inside' this.

u/plaidofficial · 5 pointsr/Music

We have some musical training but have learnt mostly through trial and error. To strictly define counterpoint would be best left to a music academic (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Study-Counterpoint-Jj-Fux/dp/0393002772) but for us we often tend to layer melodic patterns with their own time signature, 3/4 and 4/4 is an easy example to try. There is an interplay between the time signatures and patterns that form because of this.

u/haydenmcgowancomp · 3 pointsr/composer

Can't speak on the exercises you seek, but best composition book I've ever come across is David Cope's Techniques of the Contemporary Composer.

Might have to dig around the web for an affordable copy, though.

u/Nope321 · 1 pointr/composertalk

http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Approach-Eighteenth-Century-Counterpoint/dp/0881338532

Wonderful introduction to the subject and much more.

Read through every fugue you can get ahold of by J.S. Bach (almost a cliche response, I know). Obviously, studying the Art of the Fugue and the WTC thoroughly will teach you more about practical application than any book. But, it is always useful to view the subject from differing viewpoints.

u/georgiapeanuts · 1 pointr/EDM

https://www.amazon.com/Study-Counterpoint-Johann-Joseph-Parnassum/dp/0393002772

This book is one of the best for laying out the rules and reasoning as to how you build counterpuntal melodies, and build harmonies in musically sound way.

Things like avoiding parallel fifths etc.

u/shibbypwn · 2 pointsr/musictheory

Lots of good answers here - for a thorough read, I would recommend "A Composer's Guide to Game Music" by Winifred Philips.

https://www.amazon.com/Composers-Guide-Game-Music-Press/dp/0262026643

One of the biggest distinguishing factors (same for film music) is that it is not the center of attention. It is there to augment the gaming experience. With games (and this is distinct from film) you also have to take player interaction into consideration. Will this be looping? Will it get annoying if it loops? How does it fit in with the (dynamic and player induced) sound effects? Is the audio adaptable/dynamic to player action or game mechanics?

u/BelligerentHam · 3 pointsr/musictheory

The Adler book is definitely a standard, but I've heard a few complaints about inaccuracies. Haven't read it, so I'm not sure. I think the other major go-to is this book by Alfred Blatter. I used it in my undergrad and felt pretty good about what I learned.

u/Greg_Willis · 1 pointr/composer

I would suggest this book https://www.amazon.ca/Study-Counterpoint-Johann-Fux/dp/0393002772 to help with making baselines- Basically, you bass line must be in 'Counterpoint' with the melody, usually below the melody- If better voice leading would entail moving voices in the same octave- do it. It is all so that the melody remains principle.

u/iwouldbatheinmarmite · 1 pointr/singing

Thanks man !. not being tone deaf is a start :) . Unfortunately with no theoretical nor practical knowledge of music i wouldn't know where to start with matching pitch/key etc. But this has given me something to think about. I think I should learn basics of music. D'ya think that book "Music for dummies" is a good place to start ?.

u/XRotNRollX · 1 pointr/classicalmusic

i suggest you read this if you want to learn about serialism

also, reading Schönberg's essays will show you the artistic intent

read about expressionism as an artistic movement to understand its aesthetic goals

i personally can't improvise a fugue, does that make it noise? difficulty of a style doesn't make it noise, it makes it challenging, not all of us like living life in easy mode

u/MR2Rick · 1 pointr/learnprogramming

Don't know anything about this, but the idea that occurs to me would be to use MIDI for music play back and dynamically add channels based on what is happening in the game.

For example, you could have a theme for a particular monster. When that monster is approaching/on the scene, you would add a channel with that monsters theme.

You could also compose the music so that it can be dynamically shifted to a different section based on what is happening in the game. For instance, if the here is losing a battle, you could shift to a section of the music that has a faster, more frantic feel with a discordant harmony.

In addition, you could dynamically change tempos, volume or mix balance based on game events.

Never read it, but I have seen this book.

u/troll_is_obvious · 2 pointsr/Guitar

Get yourself a copy of Fretboard Theory and blast through it, not worrying too much about absorbing everything. On the first pass you just want to acquaint yourself with the concepts. Because everything is so interconnected it's helpful to have even a fuzzy snapshot of the big picture before really diving in. Then re-read it a second time, taking care to fully absorb everything.

Once you know your scales, how chords are constructed, what progressions work for what situations, etc. revisit some of those songs you already know how to play and deconstruct them. What key is the song in? What progression is being used? Which scales?

It's bad advice to tell you to practice X first, then Y second. You should be practicing everything consistently and focusing on improvement in areas where you're struggling. Only you will know what that is, once you get going. But as far as where to start, page one of whatever theory book you choose.

Many ITT are recommending private instruction, which is fine, but I'd suggest getting what you can out of a book that costs less than a half hour lesson before you start working with a teacher. Any teacher will only be taking you through the exact same material for the first six months, anyway, and for a lot more money.

u/WitoldLutoslawski · 2 pointsr/composer

I like Cope's - Techniques of the Contemporary Composer.

Some of it is a little outdated. I think score study of works you really like is what will be the most fruitful.

u/Andytenberg · 2 pointsr/WeAreTheMusicMakers
  1. Composing Muisc: A New Approach - One of two books I use with all of my students interested in composing/songwriting. Although I use it as a teacher, it is easy to digest in self-study.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226732169/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


  2. The Jazz Language - Whether or not you are looking to compose "proper" jazz, I've found that the jazz idiom is very useful in modern compositions (videogame, tv, radio, etc). This is not to replace studying the classical masters, but to give a musical foundation for how music works. It is also formatted for self-study.

    https://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Language-Theory-Composition-Improvisation-ebook/dp/B004L9MG2Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1484766792&sr=1-1&keywords=jazz+language
u/dinorawr5 · 1 pointr/Songwriting

Get yourself a copy of Murphy’s Laws of Songwriting. I had a songwriter in Nashville recommend it to me, as well as other NSAI members. They call it the Nashville Bible and it breaks down all the elements that make a hit song.

u/flyingpenguin6 · 1 pointr/musictheory

I found Robert Gauldin's books on 16th & 18th-Century Counterpoint very easy to read and fairly inexpensive.

u/byproxy · 1 pointr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

Try this. It's a funny little book. It's written as a dialogue between student and teacher.

u/Kuklaa · 1 pointr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

This is a good, basic book, which covers just about everything. Techniques of the Contemporary Composer-

http://www.amazon.com/Techniques-Contemporary-Composer-David-Cope/dp/0028647378

u/gopher9 · 1 pointr/musictheory

As an amateur composer, I can recommend this book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Composing-Music-New-Approach-Russo/dp/0226732169

This book will guide you from very basics.

u/strumzilla · 1 pointr/piano

None that I've personally used enough to recommend. I think I used the "music theory for dummies" or equivalent when I learned the basics.

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Theory-Dummies-Audio-CD/dp/1118095502

u/nastierlistener · 3 pointsr/classicalmusic

Try Theory of Harmony by Schoenberg and The Study of Counterpoint by Fux. If you don't mind reading somewhat dated texts these could work well.

u/heroides · 1 pointr/musictheory

I believe anyone studying counterpoint should read Johann Fux's Gradus ad Parnassum, nowadays published as two separate volumes translated and edited by Alfred Mann, namely The Study of Counterpoint and The Study of Fugue.

u/Xandie6 · 5 pointsr/musictheory

My orchestration class in college used this book: The Study of Orchestration (Fourth Edition) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393920658/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_K8qNBb192BT2P

u/adamnemecek · 1 pointr/edmproduction

This book is all about applying this concept to music composition if that's what you are looking for.

http://www.amazon.com/Composing-Music-A-New-Approach/dp/0226732169

u/r2metwo · 2 pointsr/composer

This is a classic counterpoint text (might be a little dry)

The Study of Counterpoint: From Johann Joseph Fux's Gradus Ad Parnassum

https://www.amazon.com/Study-Counterpoint-Johann-Joseph-Parnassum/dp/0393002772/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=species+counterpoint&qid=1554356336&s=gateway&sr=8-1

u/spike · 1 pointr/musictheory

Sonata Forms by Charles Rosen

u/[deleted] · 1 pointr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

> Here is one that I've read and would recommend.

The Adler is a must. The Grantham is also helpful.

In case you aim to have a live orchestra perform your works, remember that synth programs can do a ton of stuff that sounds fine, but would be needlessly difficult or impossible IRL.

u/demontaoist · -1 pointsr/musictheory

Aside from this, from performing arts high school, throughout Juilliard's theory program, and because conservatories are assholes about transferring, once again at Curtis, I've never even seen a music theory text book.

Staff paper. Examples from music literature. DIY practice/homework sheets. Save everyone $.

u/agressiv · 4 pointsr/classicalmusic

If you get more serious -

Kent Kennan's The Technique of Orchestration was the de-facto standard on orchestration when I was in school. Not sure if a newer one has claimed the throne.

u/mrsquare · 1 pointr/WeAreTheMusicMakers

Download FMOD or Wwise (more studios use Wwise if I recall) and learn the software. Trailers and cutscenes are not good representations of the job of composing for games; they're a tiny fraction of the bigger picture of adaptive and looping music which you should get yourself familiar with.

I'd also strongly suggest picking up A Composers Guide to Game Music by Winifred Philips (worked on some Total War games, AC games, Spore, Dragon Age and God of War, so she knows what she's talking about) as a primer for what you need to know, and how the skills you need differ quite a bit from a film composer.