Reddit mentions: The best outdoor recreation accessories

I wrote this up for a friend a while ago with similar questions:


Cheap small backpack for day hikes. I have a big 75L pack but it's not really worth having unless you're doing multi-day trips, and you don't want to use it for day hikes. I have the older version of this one that I use most of the time: https://www.rei.com/product/892074/rei-flash-18-pack


Water bladder:


You can just use a water bottle if you want but I found I didn't drink enough when I was using one. Bladder is better imo. I use this one: https://www.amazon.com/Platypus-Big-Zip-Reservoir-3-Liter/dp/B00F5IADN6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466102350&sr=8-1&keywords=platypus+water+bladder


I would do the following hikes in order:


Palomar Mountain - go to the state park side (left at the top of the mountain) and hike around all the trails there. Not a ton of elevation gain but it's pretty and the drive up is nice as well.


Iron Mountain - more elevation gain but pretty easy, also very popular. This will be crowded if you go on the weekend.


Mt Woodson - decent amount of elevation gain if you go from the lake poway side which is the only side I've done. This is the hike with the potato chip rock thing and it is crazy crowded. Do not go on the weekend.


El Cajon Mountain NOTE - THIS IS A LARGE JUMP IN DIFFICULTY FROM WOODSON - this will be a good test to make sure you're ready for the rest of the stuff. Bring lots of water (more than 3L). The summit is not the coolest part, when you get towards the top there is a split with the summit to the left and a cooler cliff if you go straight. Should probably check out both since you're up there, though.


Mt Baldy - Awesome hike, this is the first one that will feel alpine and will get you above the treeline. This is in LA but I've driven up and down same day more than once, worth the drive IMO. I recommend going up the baldy bowl ski hut trail and then down the devils backbone trail. There is a long boring part where you're walking on a dirt road at the end.


San Jacinto - Another awesome mountain hike. Best view in all of the world according to John Muir. It was cloudy when I was at the summit so I don't know. Hike up was very nice though. There will be snow all the way til May but should be clear atm. My favorite hike I've done in SoCal.


San Gorgonio - Haven't done this one yet but it's the highest point in SoCal. Doing this one this weekend. Supposed to be pretty tough to day hike - better to overnight it.


Mt Whitney - Highest point in the US. I really like the area up here as well and there are plenty places to hike around there. The permitting system is a bit of a pain for this but if you can get one it's an awesome trip.


You should research all of these and anywhere else you go by googling. Best resources I've found are:

http://www.modernhiker.com/
https://socalhiker.net/


For your other questions:


Where do I park/what sort of permits/payments are necessary to access the areas? These kind of go hand-in-hand and the answer is that you need to research on the internet. This is one of the more annoying parts of hiking/learning to hike. The websites I linked up above are helpful for this. There's also a socal hiking reddit at /r/socalhiking

What is the local hiking etiquette? People are generally friendly on trail and will say hi when passing, but that's generally about it. Nothing is expected so feel free to say hi, give them a nod, or just walk on by. Generally it's best to let others pass you if they're right behind you (they're there because they caught up with you due to walking faster, after all). Headphones are fine, but speakers are frowned upon. No one cares about your water bottle of course. Public transport will not get you to most hiking spots, so that's basically not an option.


Any other questions let me know! The west coast in general has some spectacular hiking and you won't regret spending some time getting into it.

In the industry, you have what is referred to as a "naked roof". This makes installing a conventional roofrack tricky, but fear not there are alternatives.

One option is to get "towers" that strap under the door and are cinched tight. These work well and my brother has one for his Mazda Protege.

Once you have the towers on, you can get bars that well exceed the width of the vehicle, making transporting two yaks pretty easy.

Although you have short yaks which means they are fat. One way to make stacking boats easier on a roofrack is get a jbar, so the boat can be positioned vertically. I love my Yakima j-bars myself, but you can get cheaper knockoffs from Amazon.

When shopping for bars, there are three types. Flat (factor bars), square (thule), and round (Yakima/generic). I prefer round myself and they fit a number of common saddles and j-bars.

If you really want to save on money, here is dirt cheap tower and round bar set that I used to use on my Corolla:

http://www.prolineracks.com/proline-cb602-universal-car-roof-rack.html

40 dollars...much cheaper than a name-brand like Yakima and easy to install yourself...but the Yakima versions are much better quality.

For j-bars, you can get a dirt cheap set like this for $25...but honestly these don't fit fat kayaks well (doable though, but not ideal):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003V57NUQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i01_details

My vote would be for a name-brand j-bar like Yakima:

For even more room you could get folding cradles.

If you call Yakima's sales support, they can give you a ton of useful information.

1. gray item. because who doesn't need to keep a pack of Gatorade strapped to your back! [on wishlist]http://www.amazon.com/Sports-Trailrunner-Hydration-Backpack-Bladder/dp/B006JYHFJA/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2NVQK9OBQEJK9&coliid=I2WYDQ9W75X9MC
   
   2)its cheep and it will help you sleep, I think its pretty awesome! I love sleeping with the rain!
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   3)these are soo freaking awesome! little tablets that change your taste buds! I got them once and was able to eat a whole lemon and it tasted sweet and just like lemon aid! really cool experience!
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2. this is for my dad because he is really into with the number pi right now. [on wishlist]
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3. my girlfriend wants to read it! [on wishlist]
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   6)cheep and good looking!!
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   7)come on, if you had an iphone you know you would want it.
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4. i thought this would be awesomely cool and make my room real awesome looking! control the lighting from your phone!!! [on wishlist]
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5. because it is very well done! [on wishlist]
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6. well its a Katana and its a silent kill and wont attract more zombies! [on wishlist]
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7. from what I've heard this book has some great philosophy in it, and its by the man that holds my favorite quote. “Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men.”
   ― Miyamoto Musashi
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8. i hate using batteries so this is a must! [on wishlist]
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9. Im a big zombie fan and i am supper hype for this game!! [on wishlist]
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10. put your bread in this!!! http://www.amazon.com/Electrolux-ELECTRIC-Laundry-Pedestals-EIFLS60LSS_EIMED60LSS_EPWD15SS/dp/B008BVX4QC/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1376280622&sr=8-9&keywords=washer
    
    
    
    
11. the evil tron! perfect for spooky pranks! [on wishlist]
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12. Sex Panther. 60% of the time, it works every time
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13. id consider this a toy, though I'm not sure how they would feel about it at work! [on wishlist]
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14. having this Pen is like having a second brain!
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15. i LOVE one piece and i just started watching it again after a long break! [on wishlist]
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16. its a shirt that lights up when you are near a wifi source!! Its so awesome! [on wishlist]
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    Made in Oregon!!
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    Fear cuts deeper than swords.
    
    (Sorry that the links are not compressed idk how to do it, and I'm on mobile =\ hope its not a problem)
    Thanks for the Awesome Contest!!!
    
    Edit: Updated!
    2nd Edit: #18

I was in this position last month before Escape and ended up getting help from other redditors! In my thread, it was brought up that I should get a generic pack, but an actual bladder. In the end, I saved probably 20-30 bucks since Camelbaks are hella expensive.

I actually bought this pack: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006JYHFJA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and placed a 100 oz camelbak bladder in it. It wasn't a perfect fit, so some of the bladder was hanging over the top, but it was pretty secure that it wasn't even a big deal. Was able to jump and groove to trance all night because of the waiststrap! I would suggest the 100 oz because you would already be carrying 70 oz to begin with. Those 30 oz (around 2ish pounds) would probably be gone within the hour! Less fill ups right? Dunno if it was just me, but I didn't even really feel the water weight on my back. Ended up forgetting about it until I needed water. Only had to refill the bladder once a night, and that's so we have water for the walk and ride back home. All in all, best investment for festivals!

Funny story: The person who filled my bag was like "damn this bitch drinks!" lol.

I'm a person with average build, definitely not buff or cut. Fairly bulky/chubs. Lemme know if you need more help!

No worries. What you would already have in the box would be plenty awesome enough, I'd think. Fallout's always appropriate if it's post-apocalyptic stuff.

I added eye protection (important thing I should've put in the first time around) and a hard case to the 1077 post, since you might be making it a separate option. That and hard cases are neat and only $5 more, so why not?

I think the last thing to tackle would be the backpack.

Choosing a backpack can be tricky, because you want to hit a perfect balance between long-term durability, functionality, bulk/weight, and appearance. By appearance, I mean that you don't want it to look too tactical, lest someone ID you as a prepared survivor and try to get your stuff (or that your sister might end up not using it, if it looks too much like it belongs next to a soldier fresh off the plane).

Luckily, there's [one that looks perfect for the occasion] (http://www.amazon.com/Fieldline-Alpha-OPS-Daypack/dp/B00CLJGCXC). It's durable enough for outdoor use, looks relatively inconspicuous (only someone who knows what MOLLE is would think that this is a tactical backpack of some sort), has a good shoulder/support strap setup, can be fitted with a [(totally optional) hydration bladder] (http://www.amazon.com/Platypus-Big-Zip-Reservoir-3-Liter/dp/B00F5IADN6), and has attachment points for something called 'MOLLE' accessories.

MOLLE is basically a way to attach things like magazine pouches and such to cloth-based items in a modular way. However, you don't have to use the MOLLE for only MOLLE things.

For example, if you get some carabiners from your local Walmart/etc, you can use them on the grommets on the solar charger and hang the solar panels off of the backpack using the MOLLE loops.

I fully acknowledge that this ever-growing list of items I'm giving you far exceeds what might reasonably excite a zombie fan, and it probably overran your original budget several times over, but I hope it helped. For what it's worth, all of it will be fully functional and would prove useful if you went camping or otherwise needed them in an actual emergency, and the fan material should prove to be 100% awesomesauce to a zombie fan.

Whatever ends up in the crate (or whichever type of crate it ends up being), I'm sure that she'll be super stoked to see it.

After riding 2,500 miles between my two boards, here are the accessories I bring with me on every ride:

GoPro Hero Session camera: On two occasions I have been assaulted by people in cars while commuting home. They threw an egg and some water at me. After the first incident, I purchased this camera and started riding with it facing behind me. When the second assault occurred, I was able to grab the license plate # from the video footage and got the culprits in trouble with the police.

Fingerless gloves: When you fall off your board, which you surely will if you ride any significant distance, the first part of your body to hit the pavement will probably be the palms of your hands as you catch yourself. Removing the skin from your hands feels terrible, even on small falls. Wearing these gloves provides an extra layer to rub off when you hit the pavement. Make sure you wear fingerless gloves though because full-fingered gloves make it extremely difficult to operate the remote control.

Flatland 3D bash guard and remote ring: These two accessories changed my boarding life completely. Definitely put a bash guard on the tail of your board to prevent the ground from chewing up the tail every time you bring your board vertical. Don't waste your time putting on a nose guard because they don't serve a purpose. The nose of my board never touches anything except my hands and having a guard there makes it more uncomfortable/difficult to handle the nose of the board. When it comes to the remote ring, I cannot recommend this accessory highly enough. Sure, putting a Nintendo Wii remote strap on your Boosted remote will keep it from dropping to the ground. On the other hand, the Flatland 3D remote ring keeps the remote snugly embedded in the palm of your hand even if you fully open your hand and spread all of your fingers. I've even completely fallen off my board and hit the ground without losing grip of my remote. The remote ring is a true game-changer.

A headlamp: A headlamp??? Yes, a headlamp. Why? Well, riding a skateboard at night is one of the most terrifying activities known to man. Any unexpected bumps, cracks, or rocks can send you flying. With a headlamp, you can wear it like a garter around your thigh. This gives the light a perfect vantage point to light up the pavement in front of you. I've used this light in particular to commute at night for a couple years and it works excellently. Light & Motion makes the best lights I've ever used. The build quality is unmatched and their customer service is top notch.

Clear biking glasses: Riding without something over my eyes is very difficult. Dust from the road and insects from the air frequently fly into my eyes unless I am wearing some form of protection. During the day, any pair of sunglasses work fine. However, at night a pair of shades is not a good idea. Instead, I purchased some biking glasses from Smith Optics. This model comes with several lenses: smoke, rose, and clear.

Small towels: If you ride your board any farther than a mile in a single ride, especially if you commute in a city, you will find the bottom of your board covered in dust, muck, and liquids at the end of your ride. Folding a small towel and sticking it in my back pocket has saved me from countless headaches. Instead of getting to my destination with a board dripping with garbage truck juice or covered in mud, I am able to quickly wipe down the bottom of my board so I don't get my hands and clothing dirty. In addition, if I spill anything else on myself while I'm out, I have a handy rag I can quickly utilize. These towels are so cheap that I don't feel bad throwing them away if I trash them.

LED waist belt: When riding at night, being visible is one of the keys to safety. While your garter headband works great to light the path in front of you, this LED waist band makes you much more visible to vehicles approaching you from behind.

A helmet: These protect your noggin. I haven't found a helmet I love yet, but this one does have the best chinstrap I've ever seen. It's magnetic, which means it's impossible to pinch the skin under your chin when putting on the helmet!

Thanks for your reply. hitches are pretty neat I looked into it I might get one in the future but for now the hitch was more expensive than my bike. I asked at uhaul, they're costly. I ended up getting this bike rack from amazon for $ 34. I went to a bike store and they assisted installing it on my car ( I could've done it at home but I wanted to make sure I learn how to install it right the first time). I went home and secured the tires and went on a 12 hours trip, i didnt even have to tighten the straps on the way.it's pretty damn sturdy when it's installed the right way. I was very surprised with how good it does the job and very satisfied. it was worth it.

I've had these kayak racks for about 4 years, so no, they are not manufacturer (which I think is Thule). I had them on a '14 Outback until last month.

I looked up the big-name brands at the time and was blown away by the price for a basic rack - not any of those with an elevator system or anything - $100+ was insane, I thought. The way I looked at it was a kayak rack is actually very simple construction. Bent steel with some foam and a mounting bracket system. So I looked on Amazon and found a pair for something like $25 shipped.

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The shape that the camps are molded to doesn't fit the exact shape of the crossbar, but this does not hinder them from being safely tightened. When cranked tight, it has no slippage whatsoever. And I test with a few tugs every time I use them. Great price, great purchase, would recommend 100%.

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This is the exact same product I purchased. Note the price was about $25 at the time, and has gone up. You might be able to find cheaper, or even a double set for around this same price. All the top Amazon products in the category all look to be the exact same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/TMS-J-Bar-Carrier-Mounted-Crossbar/dp/B003V57NUQ

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Camelbak brand is the best but if you want to save your money and still have great quality .... here you go fam TETON Sports Trailrunner 2 Liter Hydration Backpack Perfect for Biking, Running, Hiking, Climbing, and Hunting; Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYHFJA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_S8XdzbBRXJPVC

I got a Teton Sports Oasis 1100 for very cheap from Amazon for Escape last year and it's served me well at every show I've gone to since then. It has hella extra pockets, which I love because security generally doesn't care, and it's nice to have storage space for phones, waterbottles, etc. Plus, it has an excellent hidden pocket which security never even notices.

There's two options in the hitch-realm.

1. Tray-style like this which is what I recommend, especially if you have a carbon-frame bike where resting the bike on the top-tube is ill-advised. I have this one but I think any similar would work just the same. Love the rack, only fixes I've needed after two years is some touch-up paint and a new corrosion-free cotter pin.
   
2. Arm-style like this which is great if you need to carry more than two bikes, but again not advised for higher-end bikes. Benefit is that you can buy conversion kits to allow you to carry skis/snowboards and kayaks.
   
   With both, find something that's going to allow you to tilt or swing the rack away from the hatch so you can open the trunk without removing the bikes.
   
   I can't speak to locking style - I would never leave my bike on the rack regardless of the lock. Any thief will be able to thwart whatever you're going to throw out there. I'll take my bike into the local 7-11 if I'm parking for 5 minutes. It's too simple to just lift and run.

Check out a good Kelty Bag or an Osprey bag.

Are you looking for a backpack style or a messenger style, or a sling backpack? Are you carrying a lot of stuff...or a lot of stuff? Do you have a color preference?

The Kelty Redtail is a good options that I've seen for as low as $60 I think on Amazon. Currently retailing for a bit higher, but certainly under $100.

For a smaller lightweight bag, I was looking at a Teton Sports Oasis once upon a time. My SO carrys around a cheapy Outdoor Sports bag of similar size for her EDC and it seems to fit everything she needs pretty well.

I am selling a Eureka Mighty Mite Canister vacuum (3670G) with vacuum bags for 25. I used it twice, but it's just not for me. The vacuum salesman who did an AMA on here said it was the best one for under 100. It's great, but like I said, not for me. I'm also selling a bike rack, its this one, and I'm selling it for 10.

I've used Chamois Butt'r and DZ Nuts and liked them both, but the Chamois Butt'r was more cost effective (I purcahsed the DZ Nuts on clearance, so it was cost effective that one time), so that's what I've stuck with since it does the job. I'm sure others will comment on what brand they use as well, perhaps there is an even more cost effective option out there.

• Water bottle: Klean Kanteen 64 ounce stainless steel - $30
  
• Phone: I might buy a cheap MetroPCS phone w/ $25 plan
  
• Wallet: Alpine Swiss - $12
  
• Watches: I'd be happy with a black and brown Timex Easy Reader - $25 each. Fossil would be my next level, but what are some some even better watches?
  
• Flashlight: This is hard because I love my light but it's discontinued. It would have to be a single AAA light with a reversible pocket clip. Maybe a Lenser P2 - $17
  
• Protection: Condom case - $5 and Skyn condoms - $17
  
• Protection: Glock 19 - $550 and Galco King Tuk - $60
  
• More protection: Milt Sparks pocket magazine carrier - $63
  
• Belts: Black and Brown Hanks Amish Belts - $36 each. Maybe I'd shop around, but they have been working for me.
  
  Keys:
  
  
• Leatherman carabiner + bottle opener - $10
  
• SOG keyknife - $11
  
• Uncle Bill's tweezers - $10 for 2
  
• A pill holder from Winn-Dixie... - ~$5
  
• Reusable earplugs - $13
  
  I'm not sure if I want to carry a full-sized knife anymore but I think the Boker Plus Nano ($43) looks cool!
  
  That's just about my current EDC. I'm planning on eventually buying the carabiner, key knife, tweezers, and I'll probably go with a desantis pocket mag carrier opposed to the 3x more expensive Milt Sparks.

I have a split commute (10 miles by car, 10.5 by bike each way). You NEED a hitch if you are driving every day with your bike. Bikes and cars are not friends, and use of a trunk mount rack regularly will scratch your car. Uhaul will install it for $200.

I use the Swagman Unit it takes literally 2 seconds to put your bike on and off. I keep it on my car most of the time. It gets a little rusty from the rain/snow, but nothing that some WD 40 can't take care of. It's quicker and easier to use than other styles of bike racks. Only thing to make sure of is that your cables are not located externally on top of your bike's top tube since the arm from this unit clamps down on the frame from the top, so it can wear down on the cable. Most modern bikes either have internal routing or have the cables on the bottom, rather than on top, so it wouldn't be a problem in that scenario.

Feel free to ask if you have any other questions about the split commute. I've been doing it for years, so I feel like I've been through the ringer on all potential issues.

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I wear this on one arm. Super bright. Takes two 2032 coin batteries, included. It has been fantastic for me so far, apart from the buckle rusting and staining the fabric. (Who makes a running product that can't be exposed to sweat?)

I wear this on my back. Again, uses two 2032 coin batteries, included. Simple to use, fairly bright. I recommend it highly.

On my front, I wear a simple headlamp. Sometimes, if I'm feeling extra paranoid, I put a small red LED on my left shoelaces. And I always, always wear a reflective vest.

Using this setup, I significantly improve my visibility...but there are still times I nearly get run over. Drivers are fucking clueless.

Edit: also, I leave my GPS watch's backlight on during all my runs, for an extra (not very bright) moving light source on my left arm.

Day One I'll have about 35 lbs (15.45 kg) of weight. This is my first time so there are probably several items in there I'll never take with me again, but I'd like to try 'em out once; I also have a shit sleeping bag that desperately needs upgraded. If you want specs, just ask and I'll happily share my spreadsheet!

Edit: The List

The Gear

• Jansport Katahdin 50L
  
• Northstar Tactical Operations Sleeping Bag
  
• Hennessy Explorer Deluxe w/ Hex Fly, Snakeskin, HH2O
  
• New Balance Hiking Boots
  
• Vibram Spyridons
  
• Playpus Big Zip Bladder, 3L
  
• Sawyer 3-Way Inline Water Filter
  
• Rain Suit
  
• Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Soap
  
• All Terrain Herbal Armor Bug Spray
  
• Wigwam Merino Wool Socks x2 pair
  
• GSI Outdoors Glacier Stainless Pot/Cup
  
• Outdoor Products Dry Sacks
  
• Energizer 3-LED Headlamp
  
• Lifeline 85-Piece First Aid Kit
  
• 100', 550lb Paracord
  
• Extra Rope
  
• Heavy Duty Trash Bag (as liner; 2 extra)
  
• Couple Books: The Tolkien Reader, J.R.R. Tolkien and Smith of Wootton Major and Farmer Giles of Ham, J.R.R. Tolkien
  
• Cell Phone
  
• Camera
  
• Flashlight
  
• Map
  
• Watertight, hard-shelled container (for electronics/map)
  
• Pocket Knife
  
• Fixed-Blade Knife
  
• Toilet Paper
  
• Stove & Fuel
  
• Hand Sanitizer
  
• Extra pair of underpants
  
• Extra shirt
  
• Several scattered lighters
  
• 2L of water (possibly less depending on availability of water)
  
• Plastic Water bottle (for mixes)
  
• Wash Cloth
  
  The Food
  
  
• Chocolate Chip and Coffee Biscotti (too delicious not to bring)
  
• Backpacker's Pantry, Beans and Rice
  
• Mountain House, Rice and Chicken
  
• Ramen Noodles
  
• Trail Mix
  
• Peanuts
  
• Country Time Lemonade Packets
  
• Snickers Bars
  
• Folgers Instant Coffee
  
• Chocolate Covered Raisins
  
• Tuna Packets
  
• Wraps
  
• Protein Bars
  
• Peanut Butter Crackers
  
• Gushers
  
• Mac & Cheese
  
• Summer Sausage
  
• Nutri-Grain Bars
  
• Hot Cocoa

Getting a cheap rack is the hard part. I'm not sure what's available for the Accord, but you might even want to check with your dealer. My Mazda 3 offered a Mazda-branded Yakima Whispbar, which was already slightly cheaper from Mazda than it was from Yakima. But by getting the Mazda part number and searching online, I found it for about half price, I think around $250.

Once you've figured out a rack, the cradles are easy. I don't know how the big brands get away with the prices they ask. I've had this set for two years now, and they're holding up great. And yes, that's $50 for 4 J-cradles, sufficient to carry two boats. The mounting system will work with either round or aero bars and seems very sturdy.

There are probably a lot more cyclists than you think. Especially in major cities like NYC where lush is huge.

I use this product and it's almost $20 a tube. Well worth it for it's purpose though. I've also been known to use it when I wear a skirt or a dress too. Honestly the cycling shop is sold out of it sometimes. It's pretty much an industry standard.

I'd gladly buy a lush version!

If you go the kayak route, you can save a bundle for your roof racks if you already have the rails on your vehicle.

These have great reviews on Amazon. I just bought them and used them twice with success. You can also throw in these loops for securing the bows and sterns to your vehicle.

Don't know if male or female, but I got this awesome shirt, and I feel like a disco ball in it! I also wear a reflective vest with a white light on front, and blinking red on the back for added visibility. I run on moderately busy city street/trails with plenty of other people, but I feel like you can never be too visible. You can also buy little clip on magnetic LED blinking lights that you can slap on your hat/shirt collar/pack/shoes/whatever.

Here's what I have-

Backpack: https://www.dakine.com/en-us/bags/backpacks/street-backpacks/mission-25l-backpack-17w/

Helmet: https://triple8.com/product/the-certified-sweatsaver/?category_name=skate

Shoes: https://www.vans.com/shop/suede-canvas-old-skool#hero=0

Pads: https://triple8.com/product/saver-series-3-pack-box/?category_name=skate

I only used all of the pads for about the first week or so, but I still wear the wrist guards-they've prevented serious injuries!

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Board light (tail of the board): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015IEJ0GC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Board light #2 (front of the board): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015IFA03I/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Front Backpack light (goes on my backpack strap, or hooked to my jacket on my forward facing shoulder): https://www.olightstore.com/h1r-cool-white.html

Back Backpack light (goes around my backpack): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N1SM2NQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The board lights aren't super bright, they're mostly so people can see what I'm riding. The O light makes riding at night very safe, and my back light has great visibility.

As for tools, I carry my skate tool and a couple of hexes, and some spare belts. I have a charger I leave in my office and one in my backpack all the time.

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Hope this helps!

This isn't very original but if I win I'd like a gift card (that ones on my Under $10 wish list). But I suppose I may be slightly unique in this contest to tell you what I'm saving up for this or this. I haven't actually decided which one first.

Wow...way to ruin my day with that reality check on the Sawatch. I fixed that. The price I pay to sleep toasty warm...

Your tips are great! I remeasured my foster can and it came out to 1.6oz so I'm good there.

I'm definitely eyeing the Nitecore and litesmith knives.

I guess I'll have to make a call on my chair. Yes it's comfy and actually helps a lot to maintain a clean camp especially in dusty/muddy places.

Definitely look at this. I used it when I started bike touring but it works well for running/hiking as well. Doesn't sweat off easily. I haven't used it on a multiday trek yet but for long distance day hikes its worked well.

Got these ones. Definitely nothing fancy, but they are getting the job done. Had to put some rubber spacers in to make it fit the rack, but that was really simple. Super secure front to back and came with some nice tie-downs. Wobbles a tiny bit side-to-side with the flex of the rack when you hit bumps, but no problems so far.

All in all, two thumbs up.

http://www.amazon.com/TMS-KAYAK-RK-J-1BOX-Universal-Carrier/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405359817&sr=8-1&keywords=kayak+mount#productDetails

Running with a pack takes a bit to get uses to but once you do you nearly forget it's there. The key is only load up with enough water for the run. When I first started running with one I would fill it up. This meant I always had extra water and weight I didn't need to carry.

I own this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006JYHFJA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and love it. It's minimal and easy to use. Just make sure to get the air out once you fill it to keep the water from sloshing around when you run.

I don't use a folding J-style rack but I do use J-style racks for my kayaks (2 of them) and they barely fit on the X cross bars. They attach nice and snug.

As for securing the kayaks down, I use the quick straps that came with my racks and make sure to tie them off to prevent slippage.

The farthest I've traveled with this setup is about an hour of highway driving (75 mph).

Edit: The racks I have: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003V57NUQ/ref=sxl1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467757196&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

Thankfully I don't run into chaffing issues too often, but Paceline Butt'r is the best thing I've found. It is seriously amazing. I go out on 3+ hour rides in spandex and have no worries when I use it. You can pick up small 1 time use packs at most cycling stores.

All you really have to do is rub some on the skin and that's it. Stuff is amazing.

I have a 2003 4runner so its slightly bigger than your 3rd gen. My wife and I each have 10' entry level sit in rec kayaks. I successfully mount and carry both on the factory roof rack with 2 pairs of cheap Amazon J hooks. I can lift and mount the kayaks solo but its much easy with two people. I put 2 ratcheting tie straps over the kayaks securing them to the cross bars and side rails (not the J hooks). I use a bow and stern lines attached to the front recovery loops and rear hitch. It works well. If I were doing longer distance driving (200+ miles) with the kayaks I would probably get some higher grade J Hooks.

Here is the 2 Pairs of J Hooks (thats 4 total) for about $60.
Link

I bought an aftermarker set of cross rail for my wife's Odyessy and another set of J Hooks. I mount and carry them the same way. The van is newer and and cleaners so we only use it for the drop off vehicle. Here is the after market cross rails (that also fit my 4runner) Link

I found these shorts to be pretty good (note, they aren't "real gel" -- i used to have a pair of specialized ones that had real gel that were better, but they cost at least 3X)

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072BHZYF8/

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Also a lotion like this:

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https://www.amazon.com/DZNuts-Chamois-Cream-ounce-120ml/dp/B001C6DIF0/

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really helps

I have an 04 Jetta so hopefully I can help. Hitch mounts are a hassle to install on the car, you need to drill holes through the trunk liner and I didn't think it was worth it.

Roof racks are pretty expensive and they scare me because I'm worried I'd forget about the bike and destroy it.

Honestly if you're gonna be transporting just one bike this cheap rack will work perfectly. Just remember to get some bungee cords to secure both wheels so they don't move around and dent/damage the car. I hit 90mph with my bike on that rack and it was solid but I wouldn't recommend it. 70mph all day though.

You can spend a bit more and find similar racks that have side straps for added stability but honestly I had no issues with the single bottom strap.

I got a great deal on craigslist on this thule trunk mounted platform rack so I picked it up but if I had to pay $300+ for it... no way its that much better than the cheap Allen rack.

I'm getting a hitch on my Murano for bike rack only too. It won't have wiring. I had the same question. $200 including install and parts (U-haul). For the $40 install i'll let them do it. I have a 2014 Murano and I think the exhaust has to be "dropped" to access the mounting holes. I think on the newer version you cant just use a jack and mount it without having to move anything. Still not sure it's worth the trouble to diy. I wish I could get a rack to fit my current one and switch it to my new car, but apparently I can't.

I might be getting a 2020 and wondering if I should just spring for the $400 tow package...not sure if that's factory or dealer installed.

I got a Swagman rack (for 2 bikes). We were using it on our Tahoe until we had to get rid of it. LOVE this style bike rack! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001VO1YY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Congrats!

I did a search on this topic in this sub just yesterday. There seem to be a couple schools of thought. One is the mini racks, which can cost a ton, and the other is a regular basic trunk rack that you would put on most any car.

I'm in that second group. Call it, "poorish, but still drives a mini" lol...this is the one I'm looking at https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00TRTSAZM/?coliid=I2318EG7WH2TDX&colid=1X1F6GR5R8ENV&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

If you search the sub for "bike rack" you'll see tons of past posts and lots of good feedback. Enjoy the new mini!!

camelbak cleaning tablets

front fork transportation mount

I guess Raleigh bikes qualify

giro infant bike helmet

compression cycling shorts

CO2 inflator

gonex cross country helmet

pandoom cycling jersey

camelbak MULE

camelbak bottle

baleaf chamois undershorts

camelbak minimal kids hydration pack

camelbak women LUXE backpack

BV small saddle bag

camelbak rain cover

Hollywood bike rack for sedan

saris super bones bike rack

Some of these aren't amazing, and some might expire by the time you get to them, but this is mostly everything mountain biking related. Good luck, all!

I like the reflective vests that are mostly mesh (like this) as opposed to straps -- they feel very light. With one of these guys clipped to the back if I am in super dark conditions.

I ran one of those overnight relay races where they make you wear all this safety gear, and I was surprised at how comfortable a decent headlamp can be.

Happy Early Birthday!


Thanks for the contest! This is the only thing I had on my wishlist related to drinking. It's a hydration backpack for hikes!


Really, on a Monday?

Have a nice dinner!

If your truck has tiedowns like these, you could thread a cable lock through there. Or, if all you're concerned about is locking the fork, you could get locking bike skewers and replace the stock Yakima skewers in the cheaper blockhead.

Edit: Even better, third party locking skewers specifically for fork mounts exist!

Edit2: Also, if you're looking for security, how else would you secure the mount in the bed other than bolting it on? You could get a locking hitch rack maybe, but those tend to be pretty expensive also.

Seamgrip sealer is my personal favorite for things that need to be strong and flixible. Stored in your freezer, after opening. It has a tendency to dry out around the cap even if tightly sealed.

Gear Aid Seam Grip WP Waterproof Sealant and Adhesive for Tents and Outdoor Fabric, Clear, 1 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OR5PHW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oPRgDbXN9YFYE

can anyone recommend a nice hydration pack with a zippered compartment to hold a hoodie for the cold nights? this will be my first forest and all my friends are telling me i really should get a hydration pack--looking to spend around $50 if possible.

this seems like a solid option? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OXPC074/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2Y8SE4PQY5KVO&coliid=I3UL3ZEV1ATUP1&th=1

yes, i've already checked out this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectricForest/comments/2y2ap1/hydration_pack_selection_guide/

it wasn't very helpful on specific bags

I been running with this Nathan light clipped to the back of my shorts. It's super bright and has solid and blinking modes. Rugged little light with a strong clip.

I've been using Petzl Tikka headlamps for years, both at work and for running, and they're great. 3 or 4 AAA batteries and you're good to go.

Also, if you're gonna run in the dark, get one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Amphipod-Xinglet-Vest-Bright-Green/dp/B004DKSJAG

and a couple of blinkie strobes:
http://www.amazon.com/Nathan-Strobe-Light-Tango-Size/dp/B0099LSWYM

You'll use them eventually, trust me.

The Scout is the latest of my many shelters and I really love it for my solo travels. It's lightweight, easy setup and just enough space for you and your gear. IMy only gripe is that the bathtub floor doesn't come up quite as high as I'd like. However, we had some heavy downpours my last 2 trips and not a drop of water got in. I used Seam Grip for seam sealing.

I think it's the older version of the Allen Sports Ultra compact bike rack no profit link

But I bought it last summer and swear I paid less than the $56 they are asking for now. The only issue I have with it is that I haven't been able to get it to sit perfectly vertical on my car so the bike water bottle cages end up leaning against the central support. But I've driven a few hundred miles with my bikes on the car and haven't had any problems with it.

http://www.surlatable.com/category/cat1430419/Date-Night-Classes

Couples cooking classes. She'll appreciate it much more if you are with her to enjoy the experience together.

Paper White Kindle if she's a reader

http://www.amazon.com/Sports-Trailrunner-Hydration-Backpack-Bladder/dp/B006JYHFJA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1377490763&sr=8-5&keywords=camelbak

Great backpack for hiking.

I go between DZ Nutz and Podium for most days. The DZ nuts seems to heal stuff a little better, the podium has better staying power.

For long rides or other events, I really like Moonshine Chamois Butter. It is super thick and stays present for HOURS.

I'm a pretty serious cyclist every one posting about the anti chaffing product is right one
Chamois Butt'r works great for me

http://www.amazon.com/Chamois-Buttr-Original-8oz-tube/dp/B000HZGTUS/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1422101306&sr=1-1&keywords=chamois+butt%27r they have smaller ones as well so you can buy a single 9ml packet like this to see if it works for you.
http://gearx.com/paceline-chamois-butter-9ml?gclid=CJiB-tHMrMMCFUVk7AodAxAAdw

Check with a local bicycle shop or REI (if your in the US)

Kiwi Camp Dry was the most commonly recommended spray for general waterproofing of tent materials. I was able to find it for a few dollars cheaper at Walmart than Amazon, and I've also heard of it being found at Target. I haven't gotten a chance to try it before and after yet, but I've heard some very promising tales.

Seam sealer also comes highly recommended, which is to seal the stitching around the base of the tent and any windows or other places that may potentially leak due to poor craftsmanship. I sat inside my tent while it downpoured and made sure to apply this at any spot where it was dripping. The difference just from this stuff was amazing, but if the tent itself is thin you'll also want the Kiwi product.

Toss some baby powder down there when you run or get some buttr and try that for a bit. I am not a doctor either but it looks like a heat rash to me.

Source: I was in the desert for a long time and it was super hot so I understand heat rash...

thanks! these are the cheapest J Racks on Amazon and they work pretty good!

This is my first Coachella but from what everyone has told me: YES. I got this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OXPC074/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_rtX6ybRCCYSRQ. It's only barely bigger than a regular camelbak but has many more compartments. I also have bag locks to keep things safe. I wonder if it'll be too bulky (thinking about putting light jackets in case it gets too cold)

I basically have three winter outfits, but always run with this because of the low light.

the outfits are "Cold", "Very Cold", and "Fuck Me It's Cold."

Cold - Nike Cool compression pants, wicking t-shirt, bright yellow sweatshirt, maybe cotton gloves.

Very Cold - Nike Warm compression pants, wicking t-shirt, long sleeve cotton shirt, bright yellow sweatshirt, vented "helmet hat", wind proof gloves

Fuck Me It's Cold - Nike Stay warm compression pants underneath fleece lined running pants, wicking t-shirt, long sleeve cotton shirt, bright yellow sweatshirt, neck gator, winter hat, glove liners, and wind proof gloves.

The Fuck Me It's Cold outfit has only been tested to 0 fahrenheit this winter, or -19 celsius. Will need to improve it for anything below that.

I live in the state of Vermont, which I believe is pretty comparable to Sweden for winters. And I use Yak Tracs when it's icy/snowy.

I've got budget crossbars and budget j-racks from amazon. The crossbars are CargoLoc, and they have a decent set of reviews on Amazon. They fit nicely. I'm not sure I 100% trust the locking mechanism that clamps the bars to the rails, so I tie them off to the roof rails to be sure. The bars themselves are extruded aluminum and are fine. If you tie a loop of good rope around the rails as a backup, well, that's not that different from the plastic strap that holds expensive Timberline towers onto the rails. The kayak racks are kayak racks. They're just metal bars and some bolts and plates that hold the racks to the crossbars. The ones I got are budget, but they also have very good reviews from users. They're functionally identical to more expensive racks.

I know some will disagree, and I probably would, too, if I used them more regularly. The CargoLocs certainly are not pretty.

Bars: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA2HKAU
Racks: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00873J0YY

Lots of Crosstreks in the crossbar reviews.

I've been using this one since early this year and it's awesome. Easy to take on and off. Tilts away from the car so you can still get into the trunk. It's built very well for the price I paid. I got it on sale for around $165.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D94B52G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I have the katadyn Vario and i've used the MSR Sweetwater EX. They are both good. My favorite now is the cheap ($20) Sawyer squeeze filter. I use it with a Platypus bag as a gravity filter. The Vario and MSR weigh too much and there is much more maintenance. The sawyer squeeze is very popular. You don't need the Platypus bag, you can use the sawyer squeeze by itself.

sawyer squeeze

platypus big zip

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0062YADWI?pc_redir=1409578634&robot_redir=1

I wear the leatherman cap lifter sidekick. It isn't "real" climbing nor is it locking but it is perfect for belt loop carry. The clip is stiff and I've never lost anything with it. It's been through the washing machine a couple times without any decrease in performance. The bottle opener comes in handy as well.

I am hoping to buy my first kayak tomorrow as I check into a used one, so don't take this as expert advice.

This [one[(http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=31230526&cp=4406646.4413887.4413986.4417717.4417969) at Dick's is the same kayak with two rod holders. A comparable car carrier kit from amazon costs $25. The BJ's version comes with a paddle, while you can get a cheap paddle for $30.

So, I'm thinking, for about $50, is it worth it to install a rod holder or two? You could actually do the foam car carrier yourself by going to a fabric store, where they will sell foam. I suspect a couple of pieces of foam like that would just cost a few dollars. They might even have it as scrap for nothing (if you're especially lucky or handsome).

For more comfortable, I would consider buying a rear fender. At least you won't get the mud trail up your back when you bike in the rain/slush.

For safer, I would buy yourself a high visibility vest, like this. Do you own a helmet? You should get one of those as well.

Dont do shredlights. Get a good head lamp, and something like this https://www.amazon.com/Flashlight-Magnetic-Headlamp-Batteries-included/dp/B01IWFU9N2/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1541625774&sr=1-3&keywords=lumintrail+lth-20 to clip on you. and then something for your rear so people can see you like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N1SM2NQ/?coliid=I23DA59QY13165&colid=1UJANBAYUQ69K&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Have you considered foam racks? Copy and paste from my post earlier:

I have a 2000 civic hatchback DX so we basically have the same car but my car has a bigger butt. I bought this 25$ foam kit off amazon and it works fine. I also got these hooks and installed them on the radiator bolts and carry the kayak in the center of the roof. Two straps that came with the foam kit across the kayak and through the door shutting both doors on the straps, one more like it from tail of kayak to tow hook in the back, and one of the ropes off the nose like a V attaching to these two hooks on the front of the car. If you want to go more expensive there is this 90$ inflatable roof rack. I went with the cheaper route because I usually have a truck but the few times I don't I want to be able to still go out. I've yet to have an issue with the foam blocks. They work really well.

Edit, I also have a moonroof installed on my car. Tightened down tighter then it probably needs to be, the kayak almost touches the moonroof.

They also make wider ones for non V shaped kayaks also.

Saris bones is awesome.

If you're on a budget, I can say from experience the Allen MT-1 is also fantastic, and folds up ultra compact so you can just toss it in your trunk.

Only holds one bike however, the Allen MT-2 holds 2.

It was my first time driving with the kayaks loaded and strapped down so I took it easy. About 30 miles at 60mph. When I got off the freeway I checked how secure the straps were and everything held nicely.

I bought these kayak racks.

Good hiking boots are definitely worth the investment if you're going to be going in more wooded areas. Also, Camelbak-style water backpacks are great and keep your water cool when you get into the warmer months, but just be wary of the prices. I have one that I got from Eastern Mountain Sports out of their bargain area because someone returned it before using it, so definitely keep your eye out on camping supply stores.

I like skateboarding distances, cycling, and the occasional hike, this water pack would be pretty useful for all of those.

Hey fellow mazda owner (protege here). If you want a nice option go with a good roof rack, but if you want a cheap/decent option go with this guy:

http://www.amazon.com/Attwood-Car-Top-Kayak-Carrier-Kit/dp/B003EET2OE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375188645&sr=8-2&keywords=kayak+roof

If I had the money I'd get something nicer, but this does the job

As other have said, your shoes will work fine. I'd recommend a day pack for water and snacks. This is what I have, its been perfect. And cheap!

http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Oasis-Hydration-Backpack/dp/B00OXPC074/ref=sr_1_4?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1449789616&sr=1-4&keywords=teton+sports

Gear Aid Seam Grip WP Waterproof Sealant and Adhesive for Tents and Outdoor Fabric, Clear, 1 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OR5PHW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_l5zwCbE9JN0V4

Good stuff

Thank you for posting, u/emilyokee This is very unfortunate as I’ve used the same bag at every festival I’ve gone too for 5 years and I really don’t want to buy another one just for Okeechobee. Here’s a link to my bag, can you please tell me if it will be allowed in the grove or not? It’s a 2L hydrationpack. Thank you! https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OXPC074/ref=psdcmw_3400551_t1_B006JYHFJA

What kind of kayak are you thinking of getting?

If it can fit inside your vehicle without impeding your driving then that is probably fine, if you have to force it to make it fit then it's probably less fine.

If you have a hard-top on your jeep then there's also the option of using foam blocks (something like https://www.amazon.com/Attwood-11438-7-Kayak-Car-Top-Carrier/dp/B003EET2OE/) instead of a full set of cross bars. You should be able to find them at just about any store that sells kayak stuff. They're a little less convenient then a set of cross bars but they work well enough if you're careful and they're cheap.

Another option is a trailer hitch mounted rack. I have a 1 1/4" inch receiver hitch on my Honda Fit and have a hitch mounted rack that I use with it. It's more secure than a trunk mounted rack, and much quicker and easier to install and remove. It's also cheaper than a roof rack.

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch/Mazda/6/2005/11308.html?vehicleid=20059136

http://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY

http://www.amazon.com/Thule-958-Parkway-2-Bike-Receiver/dp/B000CQ47H4

I use Chamois Butter https://www.amazon.com/Chamois-Buttr-Original-8oz-tube/dp/B000HZGTUS It is designed for biking but it works well for hiking or other exercise too. It is a thick cream, similar but thicker to hand moisturizer.

They have a version for women but I don't know what the difference is.

It was a tight fit (augmented by waist bag and leg bag), but well worth it as I was flying from the US and it was small enough to qualify as an airline carry-on even with my sleeping bag attached. I can't imagine what people carry in those giant packs, or what their backs must have felt like at the end of each day.

I have used the universal kayak racks for 30 bucks on Amazon and I have also just laid it across the bar. Both work fine. The OB has flat bars though and the bought racks have a round bracket but just tightening them down really made it secure. I have not used them since they got replaced (a tree ripped them off during the hurricanes) but even when they were used, they held up to some pretty rigorous kayak hauling.


Here's the link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6UcKAb1JFHDBC

This stuff is the best:

http://www.amazon.com/Chamois-Buttr-8-Ounce-Skin-Lubricant/dp/B000HZGTUS

Also, if touring or riding all day, use a baby wipe to clean everything out down there if it is hot or you deuce then reapply the Chamois Buttr, or as my riding buddy says: the "Butt Lube."

After that it's just conditioning the sit-bones.

Rashes will make something that can be so fun, so miserable.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F5IADN6/ref=pd_aw_sim_468_2/131-7221536-7658202?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8A73CH48TJ9ZQCZV1B26&dpPl=1&dpID=61KkWXYmY6L

I HIGHLY recommend this one from platypus, the zip top closure is very convenient for getting it filled at water stations, and will ensure you don't spill while trying to close it up

I bought a Swagman XC last season to use a bike rack and I haven't had any issues so far. All of the weight of the bike is still on the wheels. I just make sure the frame is nice and clean where the frame holder comes into contact with it.

I have this one

rechargeable and super bright.

not sure what you mean by depth perception? It's for the cars to see me, not for me to see.

If you have a $500 budget, you might want to go ahead and get a roof rack. Then you can get a couple of J racks. The bars might come in hand for other stuff (car top carrier, skis, etc) as well.

Do you really need a tarp for under your tent? I'd expect not. The floor should be durable and waterproof on it's own. If you do - look at something like polycryo for less than $10 and light.

• https://www.gossamergear.com/collections/shelters-sleeping-pads/products/polycryo-tent-footprint-ground-cloths
  
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  If you need to seal just the seams - McNett/GearAid Seam Sealer is the best. 1 $7 bottle will do a whole tent.
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Gear-Aid-Waterproof-Sealant-Adhesive/dp/B000OR5PHW

I just bought a nice platypus bladder system and hose and then bought a cheaper hydration backpack on eBay without the bladder.

This way you're getting one just as nice as a CamelBak for way cheaper because it's the bladder and hose that are important

This is the bladder I bought and it's been amazing. Then you can just pick whatever bag you want. A 3L camebak bag is really $$$

I just took delivery of this one today...Overdrive Sport 2-Bike Hitch... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D94B52G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It's very well built and designed. Cheap! I'm very happy with it. 2 60kg ebikes, locks, folding, etc. Less than$300 delivered.

If you do look at hitch mounts, go with a upright type like this one. Bought one of the early models and it still works great.

It's basically a backpack that holds water so you don't have to carry around water bottles. I was looking at them for when I go running but I'm sure it will definitely come in handy when visiting the parks also.

http://www.amazon.com/Sports-Trailrunner-Hydration-Backpack-Bladder/dp/B006JYHFJA/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1410547651&sr=1-1&keywords=hydration+pack

I ordered this Teton Sports pack on amazon, and it just got here and I couldn't be more happy with it for the price. It's 32 bucks and is big enough to carry everything you would need for an overnight trip, has a built in rainfly to keep the wet out, and has a 2 liter bladder! It only comes in green, though. Maybe you don't need one this big, but I'm excited to be able to fit a tapestry or blanket in there so we have a place to lay down in centeroo!

They sell these kayak mounting kits Here

I used one of these on a 13.5' Feelfree Lure on top of a '08 Pontiac Grand Prix for two seasons without much issue. The advice I would have is if you want make sure you don't scratch anything, put a blanket down while getting everything in place.

The least expensive option for bike racks is going to be a trunk mount bike rack. Even the name brand racks are less than $150.

Thule Passage - $150

Yakima Hang Out - $100

Allen Sports (Amazon Choice) - $40

I used a cheap rack, like the last option, I got off craigslist for years, never had an issue. The trick is to tighten everything when you mount the rack, then re-tighten after you mount the bikes. Whether you want options like folding arms, is up to you, but that's a good option if you are keeping the rack on 24/7.

Bought the (http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk-Mount/dp/B000ELUXFC/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1368591649&sr=1-1) Not that long ago and it's been working really great so far. I've taken 2 bikes on it going 60 and hitting mild bumps in the road and railroad tracks. A little budge, but not much movement. It's pretty secure. With that said, I don't think I would take it on long road trips, because the little budge that it does make sometimes worries me.

I was thinking of doing the pool noodles but went with https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003EET2OE/ref=ya_st_dp_summary instead.

Hoping it works well.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYHFJA/

$24 and you can use it anywhere for any purpose. Hiking, out for a run, walking around a city. But it's a godsend for festivals and I can't imagine going to one without it.

I have this one by Allen Sports and it works sufficiently. I'm sure their 3-bike version is comparable.

It is easily installed/uninstalled, and easy to mount the bike on. Seems sturdy enough, I haven't had any reason to be worried about it breaking or my bike falling off. Haven't noticed any scratches on my car or anything like that either.

I don't know if you've got the space or care to carry the weight, but you might want to look into carrying a compact bike rack. I don't use this for hitchhiking but I have used it to carry my bike many miles on the interstate. That'd definitely open up your options if people are willing.

This is one I've had for about a year now. it's about 6-7 lbs and can fold into a backpack

https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Compact-Folding-1-Bike/dp/B004C94X12/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1493706872&sr=8-5&keywords=folding+bike+rack

Bike Shorts with a Shammy and a tube of Chamious Cream. Properly adjusted seat and just getting used to it again.

Chamois Cream - https://www.amazon.com/Chamois-Buttr-Original-8oz-tube/dp/B000HZGTUS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469736624&sr=8-1&keywords=chamois+cream+cycling

Bike Shorts - https://www.amazon.com/SANTIC-Cycling-Shorts-Bicycle-COOLMAX/dp/B013RB09B8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1469736650&sr=8-4&keywords=Bike+shorts

that will be a VERY large quality of life improvement.

Speed will come but what i started out doing and do now is i'll do what are refered to as Intervals (Fast riding for a set time) Slow riding for a set time. I do intervals through the week as not a lot of time but on Saturday I do a nice long 30+ mile ride and try to average 12 to 14 mph (started as try to maintain a 10 mph average). Sunday and Wednesday are my rest days, although i've recently started riding on Wednesday nights just for a short jaunt around town.

I've been a fan of these amazon tray style racks. That is the current one I own, and I had a much cheaper variation that I used previously for 10 years before it got rear ended (I actually bent it back and my buddy is using it still). For extra security I use a 12mm chain and huge lock directly to the hitch mount.

OOH. You ever use chamois butter? You basically use it to grease up your taint/nipples/whatever might chafe for running/biking/paddling etc. There are quite a few creams that work like this, butt this one is one of my favorites. It's a game changer!

I have the exact same car as you, Mazda3 Sedan

I have this rack

Works perfectly, no complaints. Easy to put on and take off. Super cheap too.

I've taken it on the highway and on bumpy side roads. No unnecessary swaying or bouncing

Thanks! I can't open the doors with the bikes on the rack unfortunately. I bought it because it was the cheapest rack on Amazon with the highest ratings. Works great for the price.

You can also get something like it at bike shops -- Chamois cream! Technically it's for your bike shorts, but it also works as a good skin lubricant.

Here's what I'm talking about: https://www.amazon.com/swim-jammers/b?ie=UTF8&node=2371137011

Running suspenders...what about using something like this reflective running vest, and then adding some clips at the bottom. It would have the benefit of being something other runners wear.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DKSJAG?psc=1&smid=A1394B1K82XHSA

This:

Assos Chamois Cream (4.73 oz.) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001O19E2E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.4o4xbTV24VJJ

Or this:

DZNuts Pro Chamois Cream, 4 ounce https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001C6DIF0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_L5o4xbK4GGFY7

Because the names are amusing. Also, long distance cyclists in particular can always use more chamois cream.

I've never used Assos, but the DZNuts stuff is my favorite.

Amazon has them for decent prices. I picked up this one https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B006JYHFJA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and its a great size, you can pack a poncho in there also or other items.

In case for some reason you haven't tried it, a lot of smaller cars have seats that fold down. I take my front wheel off and take my bike to the trails that way. Alternatively, you can get a trunk rack for pretty cheap on Amazon or something.


Just something to think about, I hope your bike works out for you.

Edit: Just realized you said you don't have a car, I thought you said you had a SMALL car, sorry about that.

Picked up the Teton Trailrunner 2 as I wanted a cheap Hydration Pack for my marathon training. I've used it once and I like having it much better than the belts I've tried.

Does anybody have any recommendations for running shorts on a student's budget?

Thanks for the bit of kayak info, I really don't know much about them at this point. I'm hoping you notice my future thread I'll post about buying a kayak, if I need to post after doing my research.

I consider the $200 for the trailer to be paid for already, because I'll use this trailer for other things. So adding in two pair of these racks and setting them up similar to this trailer won't cost me much at all (thanks /u/chancrescolex).

Thanks for the tip! My backpack is more of a hiking backpack, it's this one. Though I think the width is a bit large for my shoulders, which might be causing it to be less tight than I would like.

Ahh, ok. I was fooled by the "ideal self defense edc"

There's always something like this, or a variation, if you're really just looking for a multi-tasker keyring.

Might not have the "cool factor" for you, though.

Dropper seat posts also help make the bike small when storing it on a pull out.

I am converting a van and will use something like this:

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https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Cycle-Hitch-Locking-Mount/dp/B000ACAM7E/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=bicycle+front+wheel+mount&psc=1&qid=1572292256&sr=8-7

You can use these on a pull out or on the wall to secure your bike. The item you pictured is really only for your house, in a vehicle it would let your bike flop around.

Sure thing, it's a Swagman XC I purchased off Amazon, link below.

I didn't want to spend too much on a carrier, and my coworker has had one for about 4 years with no problems.

It probably weighs about 20 pounds, but attaches and removes pretty easy. I've had it hold a mountain bike and a road bike with no issues, but I usually detach it and leave it in the house.

Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001VO1YY/

I'm going to pick this up on Sunday to transport my new boat on my little Honda fit. Should work for you as well, and a little more comforting than a pool noodle rig in my opinion.

http://www.amazon.com/Leatherman-LTG930378-Carabiner-Lifter-Sidekick/dp/B0062YADWI

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I actually have the carabiner that broke on you, I hope it holds up well!

Yeah, athletics are always fun with all the easily mixed up cremes and ointments and whatnot. I'm a cyclist, and I swear by chamois creme - you slather it on your junk and the inside of your legs to stop saddle sores and chafing.

Another popular creme is Embrocation - it's basically waterproof Icy Hot for your legs in the cold and wet winter months. It keeps your muscles and circulation going, and keeps mud from sticking to you. It also will not fucking come off once you've applied it - it requires a shower and rigorous scrubbing.

I use DZ Nuts embrocation creme and Assos chamois creme. DZ Nuts also makes a popular chamois creme. You can imagine where this is going...before a group ride, a friend was getting changed at my place and asked if he could borrow some chamois creme. After walking out of the bathroom, he remarked "you switched to DZ Nuts? I thought you swore by Assos..."

Ouch.

Also, pick up one of these
http://www.amazon.com/Chamois-Buttr-Original-8oz-tube/dp/B000HZGTUS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450021954&sr=8-1&keywords=butt+chamois

it feels great! specially if you sweat and it gets in your private area.

I have a friend who says she uses this setup for their boat and it works well (she also doesn't have roof bars, she drives a Camry): https://smile.amazon.com/Attwood-11438-7-Kayak-Car-Top-Carrier/dp/B003EET2OE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521808778&sr=8-3&keywords=kayak+car

Roof racks are a pain and expensive. We all know people who got them because they look cool on a Saab, and I refuse to become that guy. Hitch mount racks are better I think. Having a hitch mounted to your car and buying this is still way cheaper a Thule roof rack system. I have the Swagman and love it. Takes literally 3 seconds to get your bike on and off it. As for the Kayak, I also use this

I mountain bike so it is an extra Water Bag I had around and This Laptop

I have a board carry bag that I will probably switch it out for since it is super basic.

• Kent hand made pocket comb
  
• Kershaw Cryo
  
• Apple Earpods
  
• iPhone 5 w/ Lifeproof Nuud Case
  
• Leatherman Carabiner Accessory
  
• The Leathershop Card Holder Wallet
  
• Geneva Black Mini Money Clamp

Might be worth investing in a bike rack... there are some pretty decent inexpensive ones out there including this one: https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B000ELUXFC

This kit worked great for me

I use this hydration pack. The mouth piece fits under my chin guard so it's doable while riding. Doesn't interfere with my seat's back rest either. I just got back from my second trip using it. Worked great.

I bought this one two years ago and works great. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OXPC074/ref=twister_B00P7MZ8VW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Here is what it looks like with bikes on. I did go and order something like these from /u/rswinkler's suggestion. Didn't know they existed before.

I have a small llbean chest pack and a day pack backpack with a hydration bladder. It works rather well. The chest pack doesn't hold quite enough for me so the backpack is good for backup supplies.

Chest pack:
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/gear/fishing/2011/03/l-l-bean-kennebec-river-chest-pack
Backpack:
TETON Sports Oasis 1100 Hydration Backpack, Green https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYHG3U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_z5PMxbQ0R4CB6

I just tried that S-Biner with the bottle openers for a week or so. I really wanted to like it but it was just too big and clunky.

I am giving this one a shot next. It arrives tomorrow...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0062YADWI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

We usually use some type of waist belt, arm band, of if you are a girl, tucked in the sports bra (no link needed). For bigger items, like if you are carrying a wallet or water/ snacks as well, larger belts work, there are running back packs.

I bought a Thule and couldn't be happier with it. Buy [these] (https://www.amazon.com/TMS-J-Bar-Carrier-Mounted-Crossbar/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468343275&sr=8-2&keywords=kayak+rack&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011) attachments to mount your kayak to the rack as the Thule ones are pricy. Check craigslist often for attachments. I picked up two bike attachments for about the price of one.

Edit: Yakima's are on prime day.

For me its probably my bladder bag. I got this one on amazon: here. Pretty cheap and allows me to carry way more water for longer rides.

I got one of these recently. So far so good. I use it with two 29" full sus bikes.

You can add a small padlock through each arm, but you'd probably be better off with a thick cable around the bikes and hitch.

https://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503450943&sr=8-1&keywords=swagman+xc2

I use this stuff from time to time, but I have found that A&D Ointment (it's for diaper rash) works just as good and is cheaper.

Even then, do it a couple of times in a month... And your butt adjusts. Also... I butter the butt when going over ~40-50. Makes a huge difference. Butt feels like it was ridden on 40 miles at 80.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HZGTUS/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_AwaNDbNT6ARRJ

http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B00TRTSAZM/ref=lp_491440011_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1451668942&sr=1-1

$35. I took a mini road trip to do a century ride with my road bike and a couple days worth of supplies in my Miata. Easy peasy

Thats also a little bit of my concern.These were the ones I bought because I was being a little cheap after buying the kayaks and they had decent reviews. They seem pretty sturdy on the local roads that I've been on. I may have to be less cheap and go out and buy some more "premium" ones. I think I spent like 60 bucks for the two sets that I have so they probably aren't the best quality.

A SPIbelt is very handy. For cooler weather, maybe a pair of gloves, an ear warmer, or a vest. For night running, maybe some reflective gear (I like the Amphipod Xinglet ) or a head lamp.

I currently have this one and it's fantastic

Allen Sports Deluxe 2-Bike Trunk Mount Rack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TRTSAZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_Yb5iXdZrWVlnH

I got the overdrive. It supports 2 bikes. I think they make it for just 1 bike as well.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07D94B52G?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

I would definitely consider used, there isn't a whole lot that can go wrong with these boats so 99% of the used ones will be perfectly seaworthy. I'd also definitely recommend a sit on top for stability while fishing, the Cobra brand kayaks seem to be much more stable than other brands due to their width and hull design. I bought my Cobra Fish n Dive on Craigslist for $350.

Roof racks can be pricey, my car is smaller than yours and I've been getting by fine using a foam block kit off amazon without a rack, however that can wear paint or damage door seals over time.

I wouldn't get a roof rack that requires modification to the roof of your car. That potentially could cause more damage than just strapping it to your roof.

My daily pack is Teton Oasis 1100. I removed the hydration bladder and it fits my 13" Emoji Fartbook Pro perfectly. It also has two spots externally for bottles, two pouches (one large, one small) with the larger one being able to fold down all the way to hold jackets and various larger items - difficult to explain in text.

They're around $40 on Amazon and have yet to find anything to come close for minimalist needs.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JYHG3U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_n3IOAb3VZFCEN)

Tried the passenger seat thing, couldn't get it in there without some serious finagling & I'm too protective of my leather. I figure I'll go for this one, just wanted to make sure there wasn't some obvious miata-specific thing I was missing. Thanks!

Nobody ever replied? Weird. Anyway, the deodorant tip is just that, if you put deodorant on your inner thighs where they rub together, it'll make them chafe less.

Basically you have to take one of two routes to keeping your thighs from chafing - keeping them dry, or using something that lightly lubricates the skin. For the former, baby powder and I guess deodorant work, and for the latter, there are all kinds of anti-chafe products (like BodyGlide and Chamois Butt'r), as well as Vaseline and Neosporin (particularly good if you already are chafing).

The Mopar roof rack. I have a cheap kayak rack I screw onto it from my pathfinder. And then I plan on putting 2nd yak on the Mopar rack itself. If it isn't sturdy I'll buy another cheapo kayak attachment on Amazon.

Said cheapo attachments.... Lifetime Warranty TMS J-Bar Rack HD Kayak Carrier Canoe Boat Surf Ski Roof Top Mounted on Car SUV Crossbar https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_b7nbBb1JE5QD4

I have this $100 hitch-mount two bike carrier and I like it, especially for the price. I use a short piece of accessory cord (i.e. rope) to tie down the back tire to the tray because of the steep top tube angle on my FS bike, but if you have a flat top tube that probably isn't necessary. Only complaint is that the ball bearing in the detent pins rusts a bit if you leave it on the car long term. Now that I'm not taking my bike to work due to the time change I just leave the whole assembly in my trunk because it folds up.

https://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY/

Trim if you must, but not too short or you'll itch.

For soreness, check your bike fit and seat height/position.

For longer rides, use a butt balm such as this one.

I use this one https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Trailrunner-Hydration-Backpack-Climbing/dp/B006JYHFJA/

Everyone just has to remember that this isn't a TSA-type search, they arent going to be out there measuring bags. As long as it doesn't appear to be over their requirements, it should be fine. That said, just remember EDC hasn't published a change in their security requirements yet, so take everything going around with a grain of salt for now.

I use this one:

http://www.amazon.com/TETON-Sports-Oasis-Hydration-Backpack/dp/B006JYHG3U/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1453495977&sr=1-1&keywords=teton+camelback

Got it for my first Coachella in 2014 and have used it at every festival since. Holds 2L so you don't have to constantly refill. Also has a bunch of pockets for whatever you need to get in, including a secret compartment for stuff you need to sneak in (haven't been found out yet).

Allen Sports Deluxe 2-Bike Trunk... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TRTSAZM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Is this what you mean? I got this a few years ago and I love it. Super simple to put on and take off, the hooks don’t damage the paint at all as long as it’s installed correctly and it’s very easy to put two bikes on it. I was initially worried about the “spoiler” of the Renegade getting bent awkwardly with this but it’s sturdy enough that it can take the weight.

I sure do!
Rack: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001VO1YY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

lock & cable: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000SLHU2W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

trailer hitch: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C6S0SC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Bought a swagman xtc rack when I bought my hitch from etrailer a few months ago. They're around ~$215 or you can get the cheaper swagman xc for ~$100 (same thing, but xtc is the update with nicer platforms). They both had around 1000 reviews at 4.5 stars and I've had no problems with mine.

I bought curt's bike rack support strap and it made the rack solid with no worries about wobbling. Just took it on a 5hr road trip with 2 road bikes driving at ~80mph. I could do 85-90 but it would wobble a little so I stuck around 80.

To combat the scratching the frame problem I bought pipe insulation (aka pool noodles) for $5 and put them on over the top tubes so no worries about the rack scratching anything.

Just be aware that the rack can only fit tires <= 2.5inch or else you need to buy the wider platforms from amazon which are like $15 for a pair or something if you have a fat bike.

http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B00TRTSAZM?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

This universal one. It was on sale for $25 bucks on Slickdeals last Friday and i gotta say I'm rather impressed. That is subject to change once my back windshield gets busted in. /s

I would take this to help keep you hydrated. And if you don't have any trail/hiking shoes, I'd invest in those, too

If i bought these for my car...... could i buy these to fit?

I just bought these the other day. because my kayak is too wide to also carry my wifes on top of the car. Here's is a pelican boost? 100. It's the 10ft sit on top at dicks.

http://www.amazon.com/TMS-J-Bar-Carrier-Mounted-Crossbar/dp/B003V57NUQ


Here's a video just after I installed it on my yakima bars. I wobble the back and it moves a lot but I just had a loose ratchet strap in the video. It holds it down just fine on my 45min drive on I-80 in New Jersey going 60-75mph

Shaking it shakes the whole car quit a bit. It's solid, and they're $30.

Only Downside is they don't collapse, so I either leave them on and they point straight up, or I take my whole rack off, because the little quick release wing nut things don't get it tight enough. I actually tightened them on with a wrench. So they're not quick to take off.

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlzLC2-qe5g

We have this. It's easy to load and folds down so I can still access the back hatch on our car.

The most inexpensive method would be to buy an attwood car rack set - foam holders, cam straps, and ropes. You can wrap the cam straps around the kayak and through your car windows- essentially holding the kayak to the upper part of the car. ALWAYS tie down at least either the stern or bow of the kayak to the back/front or the car- ideally both.

LED Reflective Belt - USB Rechargeable - High Visibility Gear for Running, Walking & Cycling - Fits Women, Men & Kids - Fully Adjustable & Lightweight - Safer Than a Reflective Vest - Green, Red, Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N1SM2NQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_VNxEzbNSXZ1E5

Seconded, once you start to factor in all the water you buy they are very economical also you have a nice place to hold things if needed. I just bought this one not too long ago

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OXPC074/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Depending on the material you can use tenacious tape with a sealant. That stuff has works quite well on most materials.

I don’t carry one anymore, but Leatherman’s carabiner opener has worked well for me in the past.

Still a little confused. How do they work? Can I buy a universal kayak mount and attach them somehow? Recently bought the oem racks and with those clamps I can attach them to this ?
this

Thanks for the help.

http://www.amazon.com/Leatherman-LTG930378-Carabiner-Lifter-Sidekick/dp/B0062YADWI FYI, same width as a normal key.

http://www.amazon.com/Delta-Bike-Hitch-Locking-Mount/dp/B000ACAM7E

Bolt it to the 2x4. I know a few people who use a product like this, bolt it to a piece of wood and bolt that piece of wood to a rug or second trunk mat so that they can swap it in/out as necessary.

Allen Deluxe 2-Bike Trunk Mount Rack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ELUXFC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ujjqDb4KTDK9Q

Is what I have for my ‘17 hybrid. Check their website to confirm yours should fit tho.