(Part 2) Reddit mentions: The best photographic film

The last time I shot Super 8 was forty years ago in film school, so my advice is a little dated, but if I were starting today I'd get a [classic Beaulieu 4008 ZM II with interchangeable C mount lenses (you can find them on eBay)] (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575034783&toolid=10001&campid=5337235943&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2FMovie-Cameras%2F11719%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3DBeaulieu%2B4008) [Referral Link].

Make sure to get one with a battery that works.

Kodak Vision3 50D/7203 Super 8 cartridges are available on [Amazon for $34.95] (https://www.amazon.com/Kodak-VISION3-Negative-Super-Cartridge/dp/B00PIRJV46//ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=battleforthew-20) [Referral Link].

You can get a [Pro8mm cartridge with processing included for $45] (https://www.amazon.com/Pro8mm-019962275005-Pro8-07-Super-Processing/dp/B01CZWRSSW//ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=battleforthew-20) [Referral Link], but I'm biased towards Vision3 50D as the closest thing to classic Kodachrome.

You can get your Vision3 footage [processed at Pro8mm] (http://www.pro8mm.com/super-8-film-processing/), but don't get it scanned to digital there.

The best Super 8 film scanning in the world is [Ocho y Pico] (http://ochoypico.com/en/) in Spain, with their frame-by-frame film scan.

José Luis Villar shot these examples with the Beaulieu and had them transferred to digital by Ocho y Pico:

• [INDI&COLD SS014 by José Luis Villar] (https://vimeo.com/83774924) (720p)
  
  
• [H S/S 2015 by José Luis Villar] (https://vimeo.com/111887828) (720p)
  
  
• [Fall Winter 013/14 by José Luis Villar] (https://vimeo.com/69642459) (720p - shot in B&W on Kodak Tri-X)
  
  
• [INDI & COLD Fall / Winter 014-15 by José Luis Villar] (https://vimeo.com/99228992) (shot partly on B&W Tri-X with the Beaulieu and partly in digital with the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera and the Panasonic GH2)
  
  Hope this is helpful and good luck with getting started in Super 8 filmmaking!
  

Hi, I'm glad your mom reached out to you -- I read your chat with the super supportive kanga_roos 😉 -- and I hope things get better for you both. :)

I've got Teagan the Fujifilm Instax Mini 9 Instant Camera (Smokey White) from her wishlist -- it's a cool retro camera! And I also got her some film because I wasn't sure if she had any -- and you can never have enough film! This will give her 40 photos. :)

Order Number: 111-7688250-7689852

• Fujifilm Instax Mini 9 Instant Camera - Smokey White will be shipped to taterstahr by Amazon.com. Estimated delivery: Dec. 1, 2017 - Dec. 6, 2017
  
• Fujifilm Instax Mini Instant Film, 2 x 10 Shoots x 2Pack (Total 40 Shoots) Value Set will be shipped to taterstahr by Amazon.com. Estimated delivery: Dec. 1, 2017 - Dec. 6, 2017
  
  I hope you all have a Merry Christmas! :)
  

A coworker of mine gave me this expired Kodak C-41 BW film. Is this the famous Kodak's 400CN film? It wasn't mentioned on the box or on the roll.

Anyways, the point is, I really liked the look of this C-41 BW film, in fact it was the one that got me motivated to do BW at home. Unfortunately, I've tried HP5+, Delta, and Arista EDU but none have come close to the "look" (even tones, very fine grain, relatively low contrast - somewhat dreamy look similar to dropping the clarity slider in LR) of this film. Does anyone have a recommended BW processed film (not C41 processed Ilford XP2) that can mimic this look?

Sorry, it might sound like blasphemy to prefer a C-41 BW over a true BW film. You like what you like. =)

Thanks !

I don't have pics of my IBC fish tank, but I wrapped something like this around it.

White side out to reflect most of the heat/light away, black side in so no light makes it through to any potential algae. I even built a pvc frame with a hinge at one end, then wrapped that with the white/black film and clipped it to the frame with these. It made a pretty nice lid to my fish tank IBC.

Remember, fish don't need much light. They actually prefer shade, it makes them feel safe and hidden. Some ambient light still slightly lights up the tank in my setup which is just about perfect for them.

I heard your stomach just now! And my own as well. The ice cream in my freezer is calling my name.

Well, it is 1.99 over your price range, but I would absolutely love and appreciate some Instax camera film to add to my stock for my 9 day trip to New York! I want to fill up albums of pictures of people I randomly meet and things I see, as well as be able to snap a picture to give to someone easily! ^(and without having to do a whole awkward information exchange if you want to send them the pictute xD). It's going to be super fun! ^ _ ^

The camera is a Rolleiflex 3.5f, really lovely, my grandfather gave it to me.

The wallet is the Machine Era black aluminium, awesome build quality and holds a fair amount of stuff.

The phone is an iPhone 4 w/ a Gradeselect sticker.


Films are 120 Portra 400 and 400 TX.

I'm looking for a decent knife or multitool of the sorts, so if anyone has any advice please do say!

Cheers!

There are differences and similarities between shooting analog and digital. The basic principles are the same. Shutter speed, aperture, and ISO operate the same way.

The differences come down to the different mediums. I feel that digital is a better learning tool than analog because you can immediately see what effect a change in settings has on an image whereas with film you have to send it off to get developed.

As for the quality, film cameras are essentially lightproof boxes. It's the lens and the film that will influence the quality of the final image. In that sense, there isn't much difference between the cameras you mentioned. I would recommend going with Canon or Nikon because they were the most popular for a long time. As such, there are a lot more lenses out there which means they'll be cheaper. Consider something like a 50mm f/1.8 as a first lens.

The issue you may have with analog photography is, ironically, the cost. With digital you pay once and you're done. Take all the photos you want, throw them on your computer, and enjoy looking at them. With film, you have to constantly buy rolls of film and you have to constantly get them developed. I don't know what the prices are where you live but in the long run a film camera is going to wind up being more expensive.

As an example of cost, you can pick up some Fuji film for $21. To get them digitized at Mpix, a very good printing place, is going to cost $0.19 per image. That comes out to about $0.40 per image plus shipping in order to just get a file which would have been free on a digital camera.

So that's something to consider for the long term.

just as a sweet little biz case to see how far home development gets you.

let's say you want to keep it at colour. right now 36 shots cost you $11. with the little upfront investment you need to go home development (about $100) you can go quite far.

two minutes of an amazon search gets you to $2.80 per roll of 36. this 2L C41 kit costs $50 and should be yielding you at least 30 films if done correctly. assuming you have any kind of digital camera and a computer screen you can scan for internet size publishing just fine.

so that means you are now at $4.47 per roll (and that's not even pushing it with bulk loading and larger liquid developing kits), which would mean you'd have paid off your $100 startup investment after 15 films.

on top of that, it's really really easy to develop film at home, as long as you take care of yourself and the people you live with by NOT doing this in the kitchen and making sure you work cleanly.

I got one before the summer and it's been great! I definitely suggest this film! It's cheap and delivers pretty nice results. They also make a 100.

Rite Aid film, in my experience, sucks. It's all washed out and bland. I usually buy my film from Amazon, but the Blick art store by my house sold Lomography brand film for dirt cheap. It was like 3 rolls of 36 exposure ISO 100 color for ~10 bucks. (Just found it on Amazon, it was this one)

It's always nice to support your local shops, but they usually aren't much cheaper than drug stores. I bought a film scanner so now I just have them develop for around 5 bucks a roll and then scan it myself at way higher quality.

> I like the idea getting a full set of old equipment. He wants to learn the whole process with the chemicals when he goes to school for it.

It's a great place to start, and knowing how to do some of the old-school processing tricks can carry over into digital processing later. If it were me, and I got an old working Mamiya or Yashica, TLR (Twin Lens Reflex) for Christmas (can be had for $150-200), I'd be stoked. I see old 35mm SLR cameras all the time, but a TLR is something that will stand out.

Fair warning, though, since you are the girlfriend: those processing chemicals are not odorless. Not by a long shot.

Edit: Just came across this, which looks awesome and is cheap: https://www.amazon.com/Recesky-Twin-Lens-Reflex-Camera/dp/B008ZWWFWQ

120 film
https://www.amazon.com/Ilford-Super-Black-White-1839649/dp/B0000AE6B7

35mm FIlm
https://www.amazon.com/Rolls-Kodak-135-24-Color-Print/dp/B013KEK5G6

I have one of these (ebay 332571968676) and love using it. mine has an aperature of 64 so you can get some insane nearly unlimited depth of field (everything in focus) and is just darned fun to use. This ones pretty common too (this style) ebay 332464390465

I have 2 got both at yard sales for $5 each.

Not at all! In fact, it is better if you start with cheaper film, because there will be lots of mistakes and they'll be less expensive. I suggest you get Fuji Superia 400, it has good dynamic range, nice soft colours and at 400 ISO you get a lot of usability even if the light is a little dim.

Great link, thanks.

Here's one I don't understand - $1,500 for a roll of Tri-X???

http://www.amazon.com/Kodak-Tri-X-400TX-Professional-Exposures/dp/B000VJ44N4/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A3OLRWYORWF98T

If you used Black and White T-Max or another brand Film, it needs to be sent off to a darkroom to be developed, or you could develop them yourself! The Stamp has a darkroom that you can rent out by the hour, and if you find someone who knows how to use it, that's your cheapest option.

Sending them off to a place to be processed could be expensive, but if you can't develop them yourself it's your only option really. You'll have to go to a place like Ritz Camera to get this done.

If you haven't all ready, you should consider joining the photography class next semester. I'm TAing it this semester and it's sadly completely full, but the teacher is really good at getting students in even if you haven't completed the pre-requisites for it. Then you could develop the film yourself.

Or you could just look into getting a C-41 process black and white film. Those can be developed virtually anywhere. http://www.amazon.com/Kodak-BW400CN-Professional-Exposures-Black/dp/B000L9M20G

Edit: the darkroom may not be your cheapest option because I actually have no idea how expensive it is to rent out (though with two people you could split it), and I forgot about the cost of the paper to print it onto...sending it out through Ritz is probably your best option.

I have 5 film cameras this is my 3rd OM-10 the others are from people who don’t want them anymore they just gave them to me 🤷‍♂️ said it’s better off w/ someone that would enjoy and learn from them. I have one of those old Kodak cameras from the 50s and a Canon A-1 which was my dads but he doesn’t use it so i use it now. I work in a printing shop so film is cheap for me :). I think film has always been expensive i found some maybe you could benefit from.

> So they're​ expensive for B&W film standards because they're priced similar to color film.

But they're not at the moment. The color film can be found easily for ~$0.60/shot while the monochrome seems to be holding steady at $1/shot. A 65% markup on a film that's historically cheaper than color seems backwards. To be fair, it has gone down since launch from $15 for a 10-pack, but it's still pretty pricey compared to color.

Fuji Superia X-TRA 3 Pack ISO 400 36 Exp. 35mm Film, Total 108 Exposures https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FWMYFXS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HLNBDbKCVPBKX

so this film will do??