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1. DEWALT DW745 10-Inch Table Saw, 20-Inch Rip Capacity
- 22 kilograms unit weight and optimized footprint make this the most portable saw in its class. Shoe bevels 0 to 45 for beveled cuts
- Steel roll cage protects saw against jobsite drops and impacts, rack and pinion fence system, front and rear fence lock and large, clear scales combine to give an extremely accurate and easy to use saw
- Powerful 1850 Watt motor for high performance in all applications. Max Rip To Left Of Blade 12 inch. Max Rip To Right Of Blade 20 inch
- Fence system provides 610 millimeter of rip capacity in a portable design for cutting large sheet materials to size
- Cast table top design ensures accuracy and precision, Overload protection system ensures powerful performance in hard, wet or frozen woods, Quick bevel lock with large scale for easy, accurate adjustments
- Standard: 24 tooth SERIES 30 saw blade, Mitre fence, 2 blade spanners, Parallel fence, Dust port reducer, Push stick. No Load Speed: 3,850 rpm
- 15 Amp motor quickly rips through hardwoods with ease
- Rack and pinion fence rails make fence adjustments fast, smooth and accurate
- Telescoping fence rails retract to create a small, portable package
- 20 inch of rip easily cuts a variety of larger shelving and trim materials. Metal roll cage base offers greater durability than plastic bases: Blade can be adjusted 0 to 45 degrees for bevel applications
- The DW745 does not include a stand: Weighing only 45 pounds, the DW745 can easily be moved on and off the job
- Please Note: This item is built and designed for the North America
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Specs:
Color | Yellow/Black/Silver |
Height | 13.87401573 Inches |
Length | 26.49999997 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 5/8" |
Weight | 52.87 Pounds |
Width | 25.75196848 Inches |
2. Hitachi C10FCE2 15-Amp 10-inch Single Bevel Compound Miter Saw (Discontinued by Manufacturer)
- Hitachi Power Tools has renamed to Metabo HPT. Same great tools, with only a new name.
- 15 Amp motor, intense power for the toughest cutting jobs
- 0 to 52 degree miter angle range, to the right and left for increased flexibility
- 0 to 45 degree bevel range, to the left with adjustable bevel stops for precision cuts
- Horizontal handle with soft, vibration reducing Elastomer grip adds comfort and control
- Large extended flip fence, raises to 4 inch for cutting crown molding vertically
- Large table, provides better material support
- Thumb actuated positive stops, easy to use for quick miter adjustments
- Carbon brush access, allows user to replace brush as needed to greatly prolong the life of the tool
- Dust collector attachment, to minimize airborne particles
- Only 26.3 pounds to facilitate maneuverability and portability
- Includes: 10 inch 24T TCT Saw Blade (311128), Pivoting Flip Fence (326704), Dust Bag (322955), Vise Assembly (322952), 10 millimeter Box Wrench (940543), Material Support Extension (321549)
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Color | Green |
Height | 0 inches |
Length | 0 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 10" Miter Saw |
Weight | 27 Pounds |
Width | 0 Inches |
3. SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide
- Powerful 15-amp motor delivers 5 300-RPM for greater speed and faster cuts
- 7-1 4-inch carbide-tipped blade included. Spindle lock for easy blade changes.
- 51° bevel capacity with a positive stop at 45° for a wide variety of cuts
- Dust blower keeps line-of-cut free of sawdust for improved visibility
- Safety lock/guarded trigger and power-on indicator minimize accidental starts
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Color | Original version |
Height | 8.5 Inches |
Length | 14.2 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | One Size |
Weight | 8.7 Pounds |
Width | 9.8 Inches |
4. DEWALT (DWE7491RS) 10-Inch Table Saw, 32-1/2-Inch Rip Capacity
Your purchase includes One Dewalt Table Saw, 10" 24-Tooth Carbide Blade, Rolling Stand, Push Stick, Miter Gauge, Rip Fence, 2x Blade Wrenches, Blade Guard Assembly manualOther Specs: Max Rip to Left of Blade – 22” | Max Rip to Right of Blade – 32-1/2” | Max Width of Dado – 13/16” | Arbor...
Specs:
Color | Yellow/Black/Silver Table saw/stand |
Height | 31 Inches |
Length | 31 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | One Size |
Weight | 1 Pounds |
Width | 24.5 Inches |
5. Bosch 7.0 Amp Corded Variable Speed Barrel-Grip Jig Saw JS470EB with Carrying Case,Blue
- ERGONOMIC BODY: features an upfront grip area for maximum control, precision and comfort
- CONVENIENT: featuring a tool-less blade change system and fast insertion with a blade ejection lever that eliminates need to touch hot saw blade
- 4-IN-1: 4 orbital action tool settings provide different blade strokes for smooth to aggressive cuts for taking on the toughest cutting tasks
- CONTROL: variable speed dial sets maximum speed and accelerator trigger controls operating speed
- SECURE: includes a large, sturdy die cast foot with steel insert and on board bevel wrench; multidirectional blade clamp delivers superior grip of T-shank blades
- ACCURACY: internal precision machined plunging system and low vibration design enhances accuracy and allows for the smooth jigsaw operation in a variety of jobs
- INCLUDES: jig saw, (1) non-marring overshoe, (1) anti-splinter insert, (1) jig saw blade, (1) bevel wrench and a carrying case
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Color | Blue |
Height | 4.5 Inches |
Length | 15 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | Pack of 1 |
Weight | 5.9 Pounds |
Width | 13.75 Inches |
6. BLACK+DECKER Jig Saw, Smart Select, 5.0-Amp (BDEJS600C)
Curve Control technology which allows you to adjust the saw's orbit in 1 of 4 customized settings5 Amp variable-speed motor; up to 3,000 SPM of cutting powerCan make 45 degree bevel cuts; with adjustable shoe for stabilityNew and improved Wire GuardDust blowerNew and improved Wire Guard for more pre...
Specs:
Color | Black |
Height | 9.25 inches |
Length | 11.75 inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | Pack of 1 |
Weight | 4.6 pounds |
Width | 4.375 inches |
7. Bosch Power Tools GCM12SD - 15 Amp 12 Inch Corded Dual-Bevel Sliding Glide Miter Saw with 60 Tooth Saw Blade
- AXIAL GLIDE SYSTEM: patented glide system allows wider cross cuts and better alignment while also being compact, saving you 12 inches of valuable work space
- CAPACITY: expanded cutting capacity, 14 inch horizontal capacity nominal 6 1/2 inch vertical capacity against the fence base 6 1/2 inch crown capacity against the fence 45 spring
- ADJUSTABLE: provides easy adjustments with a large, easy-to-read uniform bevel and stainless steel miter scales with marked detentes and roof pitch angles; Bevel detents: 0, 33.9 degree, 45 degree left/right for accurate cuts; Category's best 90 percentage dust collection optimized for cutting 2x material with a vacuum
- PRECISION: square lock quick release fences lock fence 90 degree to the table and requires no adjustment, 1 touch lock/unlock to slide fence for added support
- EASE OF USE: upfront bevel controls all metal bevel lock lever and range selector located upfront for quick and easy bevel settings without reaching behind the saw
- INCLUDES: miter saw, (1) 12 inch 60-tooth carbide-tipped blade, (1) wrench, (1) toolless vertical work clamp, (1) dust bag and a vacuum adapter elbow
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Color | Blue |
Height | 0 Inches |
Length | 0 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Release date | October 2010 |
Size | full size |
Weight | 0.2 pounds |
Width | 0 Inches |
8. Bosch Power Tools Jig Saws - JS470E Corded Top-Handle Jigsaw - 120V Low-Vibration, 7.0-Amp Variable Speed For Smooth Cutting Up To 5-7/8" Inch on Wood, 3/8" Inch on Steel For Countertop, Woodworking
CONVENIENT: Featuring a tool less blade change system and fast insertion with a blade ejection lever that eliminates need to touch hot saw blade4 in 1: 4 orbital action tool settings provide different blade strokes for smooth to aggressive cuts for taking on the toughest cutting tasksCONTROL: Variab...
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Color | Blue |
Height | 0 Inches |
Length | 0 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 7.0 Amp |
Weight | 5.6 Pounds |
Width | 0 Inches |
9. WEN 3962 Two-Speed Band Saw with Stand and Worklight, 10"
- 3.5 amp motor creates cuts up to six inches deep and 9-3/4 inches wide
- Uses 72-inch blades anywhere from 1/8 to 1/2 inches in size
- Spacious 14-1/8 x 12-1/2 inch work table bevels up to 45 degrees
- Operates at two speeds of either 1520 or 2620 FPM
- Optional stand allows for either floor standing or bench top applications
- Includes a 2-year warranty, a stand, a work light, a 3-in-1 dust port, a fence, a miter gauge, and a 3/8-inch blade (6 TPI)
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Specs:
Height | 58 Inches |
Length | 20 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 10 Inch |
Weight | 73 Pounds |
Width | 25 Inches |
10. Top Handle Jig Saw
3 orbital settings plus straight cutting with a powerful 3.9 AMP motor for use in a variety of materialsErgonomically designed rubberized grip for increased comfort and controlVariable speed control dial (500-3,100 SPM) enables user to match the speed to the application for optimal cutting performan...
Specs:
Color | Teal |
Height | 7.75589 Inches |
Length | 8.54329 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | Pack of 1 |
Weight | 4.188782978 Pounds |
Width | 3.03149 Inches |
11. Bosch TS1004 Table Saw Dust Collector Bag
Compatible with Bosch 4000 10-inch tablesawsEasy to attach and detach to your tablesawEffective at keeping your work area clear of debrisProvides up to 70-percent of guaranteed dust collectionCrafted out of heavy cloth material with sturdy zipper for trouble free emptying
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Color | One Color |
Height | 0 Inches |
Length | 0 Inches |
Weight | 0.5 Pounds |
Width | 0 Inches |
12. DEWALT DW716XPS Compound Miter Saw with XPS, 12-Inch (Discontinued)
- Integrated XPS cross-cut positioning system of the 12-inch miter saw blade provides adjustment free cut-line indication for better accuracy and visibility
- Powerful 15 amp, 3,800 rpm motor delivers extended power and durability for the mitre saw
- Adjustable stainless steel miter detent plate with 11 positive stops improves productivity and ensures cutting accuracy for DEWALT miter saw
- Precise miter system and machined-base fence support optimize cutting accuracy
- Tall sliding fences support crown molding up to 6-5/8-inch nested and base molding up to 6-1/2-inch vertically against the fence while easily sliding out of the way for bevel cuts
- Innovative gearbox and belt-drive design increases vertical cutting capacity
- Double bevel design allows saw to bevel left and right 0 degree - 48degree with positive stops at 0 degree, 33.9degree, 45 degree, and 48degree both left and right allowing user to flip the saw not the material
- Exclusive back-fence design cuts dimensional lumber 2-inch x 10-inch at 90 degree and 2-inch x 8-inch at 45 degree
- 0-50 degree left and right miter capacity for greater versatility
- Lightweight (44 lbs.), head lock-down pin, and built-in carrying handle for increased portability
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Specs:
Color | Yellow |
Height | 20 Inches |
Length | 27.5 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 12-Inch |
Weight | 44 Pounds |
Width | 20 Inches |
13. SKIL 5180-01 14-Amp, 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw
- 14-Amp motor for more power and performance than the SKIL 5480
- 15% weight reduction vs. SKIL 5480 reduces user fatigue
- 51-Degree bevel with positive stop at 45-Degree for greater cut capacity that SKIL 5480
- Improved dust blower keeps line of cut free of sawdust
- Includes 20-Tooth Carbide Blade
Features:
Specs:
Color | Multi |
Height | 8 Inches |
Length | 13 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | Pack of 1 |
Weight | 7.2 Pounds |
Width | 9.5 Inches |
14. Makita 5007Mg Magnesium 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw
Magnesium components create a lightweight saw (10.6 pounds) that is well balanced and jobsite toughPowerful 15.0 AMP motor delivers 5,800 RPM for proven performance and jobsite durabilityTwo built in L.E.D lights illuminate the line of cut for increased accuracyLarge cutting capacity (2 to 1/2 inche...
Specs:
Color | As the picture shown |
Height | 13.90157479 Inches |
Length | 20.90157478 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | Medium |
Weight | 10.6 Pounds |
Width | 17.90157478 Inches |
15. WEN 3920 16-Inch Two-Direction Variable Speed Scroll Saw with Flexible LED Light
- Unique design accepts blades in two directions (standard and 90 degrees) to allow for infinite ripping capacity
- Variable speed goes from 400 to 1600 strokes per minute ; Motor : 120Volts, 60 Hz, 1.2Amps
- Spacious 16-by-11-inch table bevels up to 45 degrees to the left for angled cuts
- Cuts wood up to 2 inches thick with a 16-inch throat depth in the standard position
- Features a cast iron base, air pump, flex light, dust port, foot lock clamp, onboard storage, and three blades
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Specs:
Color | Black |
Height | 13 Inches |
Length | 24 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | Tooled Blade Changes |
Weight | 26 Pounds |
Width | 11 Inches |
16. SKIL 3540-02 7-Inch Wet Tile Saw
- Corrosive resistant stainless steel top supports tiles up to 12 x 12-inch
- Adjustable rip fence with miter gauge for accurate straight and miter cuts
- Blade cooling water reservoir to keep blade cool while minimizing dust and debris
- Bevel cuts tile from 0 to 45 degrees. Cut material: Stone/Masonry
- Cross cut capacity: 7.75-inch; Diagonal cut capacity: 7.25-inch
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Specs:
Color | Red |
Height | 7.52 Inches |
Length | 15.16 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 1-(Pack) |
Weight | 15.81 Pounds |
Width | 17.32 Inches |
17. DEWALT Sliding Compound Miter Saw, 12-Inch (DWS779)
Your purchase includes: 1 CDEWALT DWS779 sliding compound cord miter saw, 12-inch, carbide blade, 1 blade wrenchTool dimensions: 17” H x 24.75” L. Tool weight: 56 lbs. Maximum cutting thickness: 6.75 inchOther specifications: 15 Amps, 12” blade diameter, 5/8” or 1” Arbor size. 3800 RPM mot...
18. DEWALT DW715 15-Amp 12-Inch Single-Bevel Compound Miter Saw (Discontinued)
- 15 amp motor, 4,000 rpm delivers extended power and durability for the 12-inch miter saw blade
- Adjustable stainless steel miter detent plate with 11 positive stops of the mitre saw improves productivity and ensures cutting
- Precise miter system and machined-base fence support optimize cutting accuracy for DEWALT miter saw
- Tall sliding fence supports crown molding up to 5-1/4-inch nested and base molding up to 6-1/2-inch vertically against the fence while easily sliding out of the way for bevel cuts
- Bevels 0 degree-48degree to the left and 0 degree-3degree to the right for increased capacity
- 0 degree-50 degree left and right miter capacity for greater versatility
- Lightweight (42 lbs.) with built-in carry handle for easy portability
- Cam lock miter handle with detent override deliver quick and accurate miter angles
- Three hardened steel bevel stops at 0 degree, 33.9degree, and 45 degree delivers versatility at most co mm.on bevel angles
- Includes: a carbide blade, dust bag, blade wrench and comfortable side handles in the base
- Miter detent override that allows you to override the miter stops and adjust to the desired setting without the saw slipping into the miter detents
- Adjustable stainless steel miter detent plate with 11 positive stops
- Tall sliding fences that support crown moulding up to 5-1/4-Inch. nested and base moulding up to 6-1/2-Inch vertically against the fence while easily sliding out of the way for bevel cuts
- Crosscut capacity up to 2x8-Inch dimensional lumber
- Bevels to the left up to 48° and to the right up to 3°, with positive stops at 0°, 45° and 33.9° for cutting crown moulding laying flat
- 4 hardened steel bevel stops at 0°, 33.9°, 45° and 48° that delivers versatility at most common bevel angles
- Cam lock miter handle with miter detent override that eliminates the need to twist the handle to lock in on the angle
Features:
Specs:
Color | Discontinued model |
Height | 17.2 Inches |
Length | 26.1 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | 1", 5/8" |
Weight | 47 Pounds |
Width | 19.6 Inches |
19. SKIL SHD77M 15 Amp 7-1/4-Inch Mag Worm Drive SKILSAW Circular Saw
The Skil SHD77M has-increased Performance - 15 ampsThe Skil SHD77M has an Upgraded Motor - High Temp WireThe Skil SHD77M comes with a 24-tooth carbide bladeThe Skil SHD77M has a Two Position Saw HookThe Skil SHD77M is Two-pounds Lighter
Specs:
Color | Red |
Height | 9 Inches |
Length | 20.75 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Weight | 17.4 Pounds |
Width | 7.75 Inches |
20. Makita 5007F Circular Saw
Powerful 15.0 AMP motor delivers 5,800 RPM for proven performance and jobsite durabilityLower guard design improves performance when making bevel and narrow cutsLarge cutting capacity (2-3/8"" at 90°, 1-3/4"" at 45°)Two built-in L.E.D. lights illuminate the line of cut for increased accuracyWell b...
Specs:
Color | Factory |
Height | 12.992125971 Inches |
Length | 16.535433054 Inches |
Number of items | 1 |
Size | One Size |
Weight | 11.1 Pounds |
Width | 10.629921249 Inches |
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I'm still a bit of a beginner and I've been working with a lot of the tools my dad has along with building my own set of tools and wood stock.
Here's my mid-range/semi-dream version but it's tools I work with every day:
Probably a bit controversial, but consider picking up a radial arm saw. You can find these used fairly easily and with a little TLC they'll be in great working order. These saws can do everything a miter saw can do with a bit more ease in my opinion. My dad has had his Craftsman since the '70s and is running like a champ. You can check out my thread on it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/7m0w22/any_radial_arm_saw_love/
I will say, you can't go wrong with a quality miter saw though. Get a dual bevel compound miter saw and there's nothing you can't make. My RAS can do this but requires a bit of set-up and isn't necessarily the most efficient.
Look at Dewalt, Makita, and Rigid for these. They'll be at a higher price point, but a Makita Miter Saw might just outlive you (my dad's Miter saw is older than me and still cutting through just about everything with ease).
As for sanders, I highly recommend picking up a Dewalt random orbit sander. I started with my dad's old makita palm sander but the orbital sander makes leagues of difference both in hand fatigue and speed of sanding.
While I recently picked up an impact driver, you honestly do not need one to start off with. Unless you find a deal on a drill/impact driver combo then skip it until you have a job that'll require a lot of driving.
Another point on this, when you buy a battery operated tool, stick with the brand as much as possible. Every company has their own rechargeable battery pack and mix and matching is a pain in the butt!
For a budget, Ryobi works great. Rigid is a step above that. If you feel like going for a higher quality, I'm a huge proponent of Milwaukee drills, impact drivers, sawzalls, etc. I've been using a Milwaukee M18 drill for awhile now and it hasn't let me down one bit.
Probably the next thing you'll need is clamps. Let me just tell you that you can't ever have enough clamps! Harbor Freight sells these phenomenal bar clamps that are amazing for any budget, really these things are awesome. Paul Sellers has a video on these as well as some improvements that can be made to them, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyKiGmRq3wY
You're also going to want some C clamps. Something sturdy and a cast design. Any time I make a jig for cross cuts or need to hold something to my bench I rely on C clamps or a small set of bar clamps.
Next up, you'll want a good chisel set. I have the four piece Irwin chisel set that comes with three chisels and a mallet and you can't find a better deal for the money. Chisels are great because you can use them to create decorative aspects to a project, flush up an edge, smooth a surface, add a chamfer, etc.
Routers are great, but you really don't need one when you're starting out. Even then, I would say it's worthwhile to get a compact router like a Rigid or Makita for your first one because it's easy to use, you can use it for carving, decorative edges, flush cuts, etc. I have a full sized Porter Cable but I kind of wish I started with a compact router.
The downside of these is that routers can get expensive real quick with the bits and jigs and a table.
If you plan on working with sheet goods, you can't get by without a Skilsaw. I have a Makita Skilsaw that my dad used to basically build the home I grew up in, but I highly recommend going for the Skilsaw brand: https://www.amazon.com/5280-01-15-Amp-4-Inch-Circular-Single/dp/B01BD81BLO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1518905277&sr=8-2&keywords=skilsaw
That link is for a budget Skilsaw, but if you have the funds a Skilsaw Wormdrive will probably outlive you if you treat it right!
For dust collection, you could for for a Rigid Wet/Dry Vaccuum. These guys are powerhouses and I've used them for dust collection and even dealing with flooded basements. Home Depot has a huge selection of these, I would go for the midrange option. I have a 12 gallon Rigid and it's perfect for everything I need it for. Alternatively, you could also use an electric leaf blower, which is what I started with to blow out my shop, but this isn't too good for the lungs.
Safety glasses, ear protection, and a decent dust mask are all musts. I use a 3M respirator for any sanding or heavy sawing on my RAS. I prefer this over the disposable paper masks because it's a little less stuffy and easier to wear.
Now here's the budget version:
For about $200 you can have a tool kit that'll just about do everything the above tools can do and it might teach some better fundamentals regarding woodworking than if you start withy all power tools:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrnohP1V87nCxxFaIJwc6PuvlhqThL0c1
That's a video series from YouTuber Wranglerstar and I really enjoy the videos he puts out. I don't think he's always the most relatable for all audiences, but he really puts out quality content, especially in regards to woodworking. The series I linked to covers some of the tools above, but bundles together a budget build of tools you can use to accomplish just about any woodworking project. Definitely worth the watch!
Lastly, I think your first build should be a workbench custom built to the size of your shop. Run it along the wall, maybe. Now, you can do this with just pine 2x4's and you'll have something extremely sturdy, durable, and cheap. You can laminate 2x4's along their width for a thick top surface, or you can purchase some MDF or plywood and use 2x4s as a frame and the plywood as a work surface.
Let me know if you have any questions! I'll be glad to help!
A good drill is key. It's silly to stick to one brand (many people have the bs brand loyalty fetish and I'm not sure why). You'll also want to get a variety of drill bits to go with drill. Go to garage sales and start hoarding nails, screws, etc at cheap prices.
My recommendations below are based on at least 5 hours of research and shopping around. There are some things I'd probably add to the list (like a hand saw and dremel) but this takes care of a lot of your big needs. I own everything on the list and am pleased with it all, especially in terms of a performance for value ratio.
The key is know what you want then shop around / wait for the best prices (track prices in spreadsheet). Use google shopping to compare prices and see who price matches plus has best ebates or Ibotta cash back % + consider buying gift cards at a discount on Raise or elsewhere to further maximize savings (or just go with whatever credit card gets best points on particular site). Add Google Chrome app "Honey" to have coupon codes auto applied (eliminates time searching for them).
Also, I'd strongly consider getting a credit card with a decent bonus that will essentially help you get these items for free (assuming you can achieve the bonus spend with money you're already paying on existing bills / monthly purchases - it's a no-brainer in this case) - Chase's Sapphire Preferred is a good place to start ($500 bonus for 4K spend in 3 months)
Consider waiting until Black Friday (and from Jan to end of feb) for the good deals.
Drill (get a decent to really good one - you'll use it often)
Circular Saw
Multi-tool
Miter saw
Respirator
Horse (the 'roided out version)
Sander (makes a huge difference): I've seen it in the low $40 range
Here are the basics, I will edit if I think of any more essential tools, but you can go an awfully long way with these.
Hand Tools:
Power Tools:
Misc:
I'm a professional carpenter and general contractor, and from my personal experience and the anecdotal evidence from the guys I regularly see, Bosch is of the best you can get for cordless tools nowadays. DeWalt used to be the go-to, but their quality has dropped considerably over the last 5-10 years. They still have some decent products, but I know of a lot of people who have had major issues with their drill chucks being off center.
This said, you kind of need a grab bag to get the best of each tool.
Here's my current setup, which is the same as quite a few contractors I work with:
So there you go. Those are the ones that have gone through the ringer on a construction crew and have survived heavy abuse and regular moving/dropping without any signs of letting go. Some may be overkill for your situation, but they're what I've found to be best. I'm probably missing a few loose ends so look out for edits.
I'd like to get into woodworking and a have a few tools from being a DIY kinda guy, but I've never actually done any nice woodworking. I've had a bit of experience making some shelves, staining, and such. I need some advice for getting started.
I've got a pretty big workspace and built myself an L shaped plywood table against the corner wall. As far as tools, I've got a drill, circular saw, reciprocating saw (<-all the Dewalt battery operated kind), screwdrivers, and some cheap chisels.
I'd like help figuring out a beginner project. I like all the cutting boards I've seen. Or maybe making some more tools (I've seen mallets and screwdrivers). Something easier, but that I can be proud of when I get done. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I'd also like some advice on what tools I should get next. I'm thinking a table saw would be useful and I've been looking at this one. I realize it's not a cabinet table saw, but I'm not sure I want to shell out that much right now, and I have no idea what I'd be looking for if I were to go look for a used one. I've also been considering getting a couple of hand planes, but every time I see people ask about those, everyone responds with $150-200 hand planes. If i end up rarely doing woodworking, I can see the use of a table saw like the one above, but I'm not sure if expensive hand planes would ever get used. Is it necessary to spend so much on some hand planes? Or would I maybe be able to get a decent quality one for around $50 and then get some wet stones and sharpen it (only found out hand planes were really useful recently so I probably have no idea what I'm talking about here)?
I'd recommend buying tools based on what your project plans are. If you're going to do trim, build decks and fences or anything that involves less sheet goods, absolutely I'd recommend a miter saw.
If you plan to build sheet good stuff, desks, cabinets, anything that involves plywood, then you can reasonably by a table saw and fill the gaps with a circular saw.
What is your budget? I'll be able to make better recomendations for tools if I know how much you have to play with.
I would avoid the saw you linked for a few reasons:
and I would not for ONE second hesitate to buy it again. Unlike most sliding saws, it does not use a rail system, so if you use it in a shop, you don't need 18-24" behind the saw to slide it. It's great for installing at a workbench. The price is also much more reasonable for you yankee folks since you dollar is getting much better now. It's a great saw, and if you look after it (as with any good tools) it will last a lifetime.
Some people might find the new yankee workshop boring (as you can likely tell, I'm a huge fan of Norm, and have been since I was a boy, I can attribute vast amounts of my woodworking knowledge to him directly) You'd do yourself a favor by watching some of his shows, and grabbing a book of his called "Measure twice, Cut once" they are absolutely worth the time investment.
Here's a good place for you to start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUMif8_XQRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqvwlbm6B0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTp4v1PZmBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuKIBWqg5yI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nGqsc0JF3I
That should keep you busy for a couple hours. It might be a little dry in places, but everything he show he does for a reason. This guy is about as good as it gets IMHO.
Let me know if you have any more questions, I'd be happy to help you.
If the bandsaw runs, it should still be useful. You can purchase a new blade if there's an issue with the existing one. The chisels will be fine, but you'll have to learn how to sharpen them. Sharpening systems can be expensive, though.
Otherwise it depends a little on what you want to build.
If I were starting out on a significant budget, I think I'd go with a skil saw, triangle square, tape measure, and drill/driver set. And I'd be thrilled to have a bandsaw & chisels. If you can, buy a good skil saw. Don't too much worry about the quality of the rest.
Those will all be very useful later, too, of course. Might build some sawhorses first and go from there.
A skil saw is really useful for breaking down pallets, as well, in case you plan on making use of them as a source of lumber while you're starting out.
If you want a more specific list, I own these products:
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-33-312-Powerlock-Tape-Rule/dp/B00002X2GN/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1497387060&amp;sr=8-5&amp;keywords=stanley+tape+measure
You don't need a 25' tape and a 12' tape is easier to use.
https://www.amazon.com/5280-01-15-Amp-4-Inch-Circular-Single/dp/B01BD81BLO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1497387078&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=skil+saw
That skil saw isn't the best in the world, but it'll get you pretty far.
https://www.amazon.com/Swanson-S0101-7-inch-Square-Layout/dp/B00002255O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1497387123&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=triangle+square
Just a cheap, basic square.
You'll also want some clamps, no doubt. On a tight budget I'd get some walmart cheapies. They're not great, but they get the job done, and clamps are crazy expensive. You want them to be basically like this:
https://www.amazon.com/IRWINQUICK-GRIPOne-Handed-Mini-Bar-Clamp-1964742/dp/B00002244S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1497387348&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=woodworking+clamps+hand
But larger (12-36"). And walmart brand is cheaper, I think they're about $3 for a 12" clamp.
Good luck! Ask questions!
If your goals are to do fine woodworking, like interior furniture (that isn't "rustic")...or if your budget is much larger, then you'll be looking at an entirely different set of tools.
Table saw, planer, orbital sander, bandsaw (if yours is no good), bench grinder, miter saw, jointer, in order of importance (to me!). And lots and lots of hand tools. Marking gauge, marking knife, awl, variety of drill bits, counter sinks.
Belt sander, disc sander, jigsaw, router. Router can be way up there in importance if you make good use of it--very versatile tool. I just don't use it a ton personally, and bits can be very expensive.
As someone working through this but a few years ahead of you, I'll pass along the list of stuff I've bought and/or wish to buy...
Hand Tools
Power Tools
Also, there are fluids to consider
Of these, I'd focus on the hand tools, fluids, and the Dremel. You can always ask someone to buy you a saw for Christmas. If you have these things on hand, there probably won't be a job come along that you can't handle at some basic level. I'm assuming you don't need yard grooming tools, because that's an entirely different list.
Doesn't come with, but there are 2 good options. The first is the dw7450 which is designed exclusively for this saw. It is simple and lightweight, and can be carried up a flight of stairs with the saw in one trip which is a really nice feature you don't often consider (or ever get) from a table saw. Costs about $65. The second is the dw7440rs, which folds into a hand truck without having to remove the saw from it. This is a "nicer" stand, but comes with a $190 price tag. I have the 7450 and I really like it. Neither of these stands provide for outfeed, but i just bring around a Ridgid FlipTop stand with me and that takes care of that. Whatever you decide, I would definitely recommend getting a stand of some sort, as well as this dust bag: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-TS1004-Table-Dust-Collector/dp/B00004R9LF/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419997854&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=bosch+table+saw+dust+bag. It fits the 745 perfectly and can hold a ton of dust before needing to be emptied.
I will say that he's going to be limited with that workspace, but he can get by with some basic stuff. I also have extremely limited space. I have an outdoor shop space, but since it's not insulated and has no power, I'm very limited in what I can do.
However, here's a good list of things to get.
Keep in mind that father's day is coming up soon, and tools like these are popular things to be put on sale. Keep your eyes open :)
Dust Collector - $239
Air Filtration - $139.99
As far as jointers - I'd stay away from the bench top ones. You'll find them useful for a short period of time, but then you'll realize you should have sprung for a bigger model. Along with a planer, I would look on CL for a decently priced used model. Obviously this doesn't work with your Amazon Gift card plan, but I wouldn't waste them. And buying a good jointer new off amazon is going to be out of your budget.
Jigsaw - $65.99
3M Respirator Mask - $15.97
As far as clamps, I would stick with Bessey clamps. I would price check Amazon vs Home Depot and see what's cheaper. If HD is cheaper, don't waste your Amazon GCs on them. HD tends to run Special Buys on them from time to time too.
Right now, you're just under $500. Do you plan on doing any hand tool work (i.e. chisels, handsaws)? If so, you can spend some on those tools as well.
In means of accuracy and size you probably can't beat the Dewalt DW745. I've had mine for 3 years and am still super happy with it. The guided fence is super easy to adjust and is always parallel to the fence.
The two downsides are the 20" rip capacity (24" would be perfect) and that the arbor is to short to use a dado stack.
There are enough work arounds for me to still be happy with the saw (router and circular saw) for dados i also often use a flat tooth saw blade and make more passes.
I bought a ryobi tableware initially and returned it after making 4 cuts... piece of shit!! Although I love my ryobi 18v one+ tools.
I bought the dewalt for 229 on sale at HD and love it!
EDIT: f****ed up formatting
After some research, I recently purchased my first jig saw: B&D BDEJS600C with 5 amps and 4 variable settings. I was really surprised with the power it packs. There is a trigger lock but can only be locked once the trigger is fully engaged. The only thing I really dislike about it is the blade lock but after messing with it for a few minutes I was able to secure the blade. Overall I feel this saw is great for the price. Currently on Amazon for $34.99 and Home Depot for $37.99.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OJ72LHK/ref=oh_aui_i_d_old_o1_img?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
http://m.homedepot.com/p/BLACK-DECKER-5-Amp-Jig-Saw-with-Curve-Control-BDEJS600C/206144814
I figured the blade the saw came with was going to be trash (it is) so I got a pack of Bosch T5002 T-shank blades. These blades are great and I should have went ahead and bought a couple packs for future use. Amazon for $12.99; Home Depot for $12.59.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0000TZZVA/ref=oh_aui_i_d_old_o1_img?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Bosch-T-Shank-Jig-Blade-Set-10-Piece-T5002/203747310
Hope this helps. Sorry for the mobile links.
> And yes, you had better believe that I would gladly use a beauty of a skilsaw like that:)
I like the part where the housing is live at mains and requires the grounding wire before grounding pins existed... Better not use it in the rain <3
Also, you have to consider, things were hand built. Hand milled. There were very limited automation, if any.
Which means
A. Expensive as hell to produce quality.
B. Things were beefed up to deal with variances introduced from human errors
Today, it's 95% fully automated with high precision and tight tolerances. Which allows manufactures to reduce materials to get the same job done while reducing the cost drastically.
I looked up the prices for circular saws in the 1940's. Can't find archive for the Model 77, but I found this sweet catalog for power tools, including the model 520 circular saw. Look, it costed $60 in 1940's. Sweet, it costed the same as a new one today!
Oh wait, better account for inflation.... oh....my... $1,000 in today currency. LMAO
I stick with craftsman for basic tools like screwdrivers and shit because of the lifetime warranty. I've had too many cheap philips screwdriver get their tips bent out of shape from an unruly screw, and that's really fuckin' annoying. Spend the extra few bucks, but don't go overboard. Stanley tools are pretty good too. Kobalt and the other off-brands are crap.
Other than that, I tend to go with DeWalt- decent quality, not too expensive. However, this was recommended to me by the carpenters at work, and that thing is a wonderful beast. I'm doing some home construction work, and so far it sings like a champ.
Do you have an idea of what you want to get her, and what she'll actually use it for?
Whether the size is suitable for the work you want to do is of course subjective. However, I would not buy a single-speed saw with less than 3/4 horsepower. You'll find it very easy to stall the blade, so it won't be able to cut much thickness. That's fine if you want to use it for building model airplanes or cutting shapes out of thin material in place of a scroll saw, but it'll never serve as a proper woodworking tool.
Instead of either the Craftsman or the Rikon, I'd recommend the WEN 3962. It's also a 10" saw, but it's got the same 6" resaw height as a typical 14" saw, and I think the steel frame is stiffer than a lot of cast iron 14" saws as well. It's also got two speeds, and I just leave mine set on the slower speed all the time. With a 72" Highland Woodslicer blade, it'll resaw just about anything you can fit in it, if you take your time. Yes, it's twice as much money, but I think you'll be a lot happier with it. I ordered mine six months ago as a stopgap because I planned on building my own 20" saw, and I've been so content with it that I may not need to build one after all.
Thanks for the feedback. I was really hoping for more than just 1 response, but what can ya do? :)
I ended up purchasing a bunch of items from Home Depot, and after checking online, I realized that many were dumbed-down versions of the real thing.
IE: Wooster Sherlock 2-4 ft pole.
So I ended up returning all of items and re-purchased better versions online.
How'd I do?
(Pack of 8) Purdy Dove Cover, 9" x 3/8", White
I have this guy http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW715-15-Amp-12-Inch-Compound/dp/B000ASBCK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1373516554&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Dewalt+miter+saw
Very happy with it. You can do a lot with a circular saw and a straight edge clamp. Good luck, build your tool collection over time, and buy the best you can afford. If you stick with it, you'll just want to upgrade later
I bought the saw on Amazon, unfortunately it's currently sold out. Keep an eye on it though, I got it for only $81.92!
It was most definitely safe! It's a great starter tool. Check this tutorial video. If young George can do it, you can do it!
Good luck!
That ridgid or the delta for ~$600 are the best hobbyist woodworker level saws on the market currently. If you intend to do a decent amount of weekend warrior woodworking then they would be good investments.
If you are just looking for the occasional DIY project and want to save some more money, this dewalt jobsite saw is half the cost and works great. Being a jobsite saw it is much smaller so think about the types of projects you want to do. But I have built tables, coffee tables, and many cutting boards on mine.
https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW745-10-Inch-Job-Site-Capacity/
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Edit: Also there is a common misconception about 220v saws. Rewiring to 220 does not provide any more power, it just takes up less space on the circuit while providing the same amount of power. So if you have a 15 amp 110v saw on a 20 amp circuit you aren't missing out on any power, you just can't run much of anything else on that circuit at the same time.
I haven't built any furniture with mine but ive done a whole range of construction and trim work with mine. I think its near perfect for its size. The only real downside seems to be related to its physical size....it should be nice to have more in feed and out feed but i imagine building a table around it would help a lot. I recently bought one of these dust collection bags for mine and it seems to catch the vast majority of the dust.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004R9LF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
overall its been one of my favorite tools purchases.
Yes! I really like barrel grips, too, because it gets your hand closer to the work so it's easier to control. Also, the ergonomics (at least on this one) are so nice! :) The standard ones you find in the big stores have 'top handles'. I don't like them as much. Thin handle, and if you think about it in terms of lever-arms, your hand rests a whole lot higher than the body, and a little bit behind where you can get your palm on a barrel grip. I find it's easier to make mistakes with top handle ones.
Just my opinion, so still worth researching to see what you like.
You can get a really nice contractor table saw for around $500. I have this one and I love it. Or a radial arm saw like this. There a a bunch of good brands out there. Just make sure you get a 12 inch blade.
I just got a new DeWALT tool too, my first table saw!!
DeWALT DWE7491RS
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F2CGXGG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
My next tool might be this planer but really I think I should get a nice bandsaw before getting a planer (correct me if I'm wrong). Me thinks hand planing will be nice.. something that's actually done by hand and not some electronic.
DEWALT DW745 10-Inch Compact Job-Site Table Saw with 20-Inch Max Rip Capacity - 120V https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HXT2N6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_geUlzbS7H4WS2
I have had this saw for about 4-5 years and I'm continually impressed with its performance. It's small/light enough to be picked up with one arm, yet powerful enough to rip 4x of nearly any material. I strongly recommend it. I had used a Rigid saw before (comparable model) and this saw leaves it in the dust in every category. My 2 cents, good luck on your shopping!
No worries! Below is a link to a circular saw by Skill (or you can search “circular saw” on amazon. It’s one of the first results and is just over $60). It’s kind of the bread and butter of circular saws. It’s the one everyone has. It’s the one I have (minus the laser)! Good saw and it can be used for a whole lot of stuff. Different tool than what is shown above, however. The posted tool is a planer which helps make boards a uniform thickness.
skill saw
Edit: After reading your comment again, he’s definitely asking for the circular saw; however, if you’re already buying tools and want to buy more tools, a reciprocating saw would work way better for something like cutting through a wall. It’s a good general purpose tool as well (I’d stick with the circular saw if you’re only getting one though).
reciprocating saw
I️ literally just bought the dewalt dw716xps from Amazon. Right now 250 with an extra blade. I️ didn’t want a slider due to space and weight, but the dewalt saws are the best imo and the xps light is a great feature
DEWALT DW716XPS Compound Miter Saw with XPS, 12-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P0DXET6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_zi7fAb2T5ACJ1
Squiggle wood is really cool, but what can it actually be used for aside from a demonstration of squiggle wood. The precision and accuracy of the jointmaker is probably it's best selling point, but that still doesn't come close to justifying the price. IMO.
Lets use specifically the kapex... it's really pricy
Vs the Bosch axial which is much more affordable and I do believe it to be an even better performer than the kapex.
You end up paying for the Festool name rather than quality of tool.
A circular saw is basically an electric motor with an on-off switch, so they're pretty durable and for most purposes they're interchangeable. That particularly model is a 13 amp motor. You might want to consider getting the 15 amp version for the additional cutting power but honestly you'll probably be fine with the 13 amp version.
If you're doing any sort of fine woodworking you're much better off sinking money into a good blade. (As the Shop Talk suggests.)
> If this this is a POS like your saying then no reason to even hang on to it. Thanks for your input. I think I saw the tab
I figured mine would be great for small projects too. Problem is you need precision with the smaller stuff, which the table saw could not provide at all. I completely forgot to mention that I bought https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C10FCE2-15-Amp-10-inch-Compound/dp/B000V5Z6RG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1481037657&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=miter+saw and I'm very happy with it. I wish the saw would raise a little higher but it's been working awesome for me.
There might possibly be somewhere that would do that for a fee... but that fee would almost certainly be higher than the cost of a cheap Circular Saw, like this. Probably half your neighbors have one, too, for that matter.
Or if that's too rich, and you're feeling anti-social, drill a hole in it and use a jab saw... though that will take a while. Sigh... no drill? Yeah, just get the circular saw.
Not sliding but very accurate. For trim and flooring this is the best for the price. but a sliding one is ideal, this cant handle a 2x8.
https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C10FCE2-15-Amp-10-inch-Compound/dp/B000V5Z6RG
I highly recommend the Hitachi on amazon, it gets great reviews and its an amazing compound miter saw for the price.
http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C10FCE2-10-Inch-Compound-Miter/dp/B000V5Z6RG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1395172421&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Hitachi+miter+saw
We both have the same Miter saw on our wishlists!!!, but that's probably pretty unrealistic.
How about this incense collection. It could make both of our homes very peaceful.
Thanks for the suggestion, really appreciate it. Out of curiosity what is the difference between the
Makita 15 Amp 7-1/4-Inch Hypoid Saw and the [Makita Magnesium 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw] (http://smile.amazon.com/Makita-5007MG-Magnesium-4-Inch-Circular/dp/B000N5SVEY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1452544752&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=makita+15+amp+magnesium) (Hyoid vs Circular)? Is it just the ergonomics? It seems like the like the circular saw is smaller than the hypoid.
There was a WEN bandsaw review post on here not too long ago for their 10" bandsaw. At the time, I think it was just under $200, looks like it went up in price since then. The post was pretty positive about the saw: good features, good quality - for the price. For that price, don't expect a lot, but its a good bang for your buck tool.
I'm considering buying a bandsaw and a spindle sander in the near future. WEN makes both of these, and if I were to buy new, I would probably buy these. However, I would starting by lurking craigslist first.
The first one I bought was a 9 incher and it wasn't exactly great. I then spent a little bit more for the 10 inch WEN - it's been great. the fence is... we'll you're only spending 300 ish bucks... but it HAS a fence, and the base is pretty decent.
If you can swing a little more on your budget, I highly recommend it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016VD8GAA/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
Yeah, you could look in to smaller bench top models of table saws and jointers, lunchbox planers, etc.
Ive seen people create some pretty cool work areas out of small spaces.
The downside is with smaller tools comes less surface to reference your workpiece during the cut, less power and dust collection...
These are some smaller "budget" tools that I've heard good things about:
Benchtop "Lunchbox" Thickness Planer
Benchtop Jointer
Benchtop table saw
Benchtop Drill Press
I have the BLACK+DECKER BDEJS600C Smart Select Jig Saw, 5.0-Amp. For a budget saw, it's pretty good. Most of my projects involve a jig saw in one way or another, and it's served me well so far.
I bought this Dewalt 12" miter saw about a year ago and really, really like it. It's currently at $350 on Amazon which is a pretty good deal.
I hear you, but there is only one way to get that experience. You don't need a workshop either...
You could do it well with:
It'll be more than a weekend project with those, but a great experience.
A table saw (~$200+) and/or miter saw ($100) aren't needed, but would speed that up significantly.
If you want the 716 buy it from Amazon but get the 716xps model. It has the shadow light on it. Just bought it a few weeks ago. Love it! Its $288 currently on Amazon.
DEWALT DW716XPS Compound Miter Saw with XPS, 12-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P0DXET6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_9ktUCbTWHN5Z2
Any reason you are wanting a Bosch specifically? Makita is well know for excellent circular saws; this one is excellent: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000N5SVEY/
Ya I love this guy and this stud finder. Made an amazing doggy door through my wall to the side of the house for a dog potty area, only took a couple days with the right tools.
I just got this dust collector bag for the very same planer. Nice and cheap, fits perfectly, works great. Fill up pretty fast but way better than having dust and chips shoot off into my shop!
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00004R9LF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_bOyPCbWVKCM6F
With what your going to do I would get a 10 inch miter...not sliding. unless you just want to spend the extra money.
(whooops....link removed.....didn't realize we could only link products from blue/orange/amz.)
alternate link....https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C10FCE2-15-Amp-10-inch-Compound/dp/B000V5Z6RG
For the table saw...I would search craigslist and get a full size saw and add a set of wheels to it...like these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000223CL
I would search craigslist for the table saw.
There are only a few reasons to even get a miter saw.
Its easier to crosscut long pieces accurately.
You get quick access to a dedicated crosscut blade instead of swapping one into table saw.
Other than that, I tend to use the table saw. Even when I am crosscutting a lot of short material, I use a crosscut sled on my table saw. I only use my miter saw to rough cut and break down long boards.
If I was you I would buy that 100 buck miter and lump that other 200 in on my table saw money, wait and watch craigslist to get a better table saw with a solid top.
Hey, guys. I'm gonna be laying down some laminate flooring in my daughter's room, and I would like to have a scroll saw to help me cut the boards. I'm a newbie when it comes to woodworking, and I saw these two:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005UKGL58/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L47FZ8A/
Do any of you have experience with either of these? Is there something else you would recommend?
Thanks!
Thanks! Does this saw look like something I should get first then that can pretty much do it all?
DEWALT 10-Inch Table Saw, 16-Inch Rip Capacity (DW745) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HXT2N6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_I8vXDbJJCZ338
Are you limited to that budget or can you go over? I got the Bosch GCM12SD a few months ago and it is awesome. Literally every worker who comes over and sees me using it is like "Damn that is a nice chop saw".
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004323NNC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I dont have a shop so I keep it on this stand and wheel it in and out of my shed when I use it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VZNEM0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I got the laser for it as well but I never use it, just as easy to line things up manually.
You're talking about this dewalt, right?
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Thanks for the tips on the craftsman, that definitely helps
suggestion:
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-JS470EB-7-Amp-Barrel-Grip-Jigsaw/dp/B004323NQ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1397758986&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=bosch+barrel+grip+jigsaw
I have a dewalt but it’s the $500 one that comes with the rolling stand. It’s been really good. Seems to stay square and can accept an 8” dado, although I haven’t gotten one yet. It might be worth the extra money. I know you say you don’t need a stand but if you have limited space, it’s very handy.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F2CGXGG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524355924&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=dewalt+table+saw&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51Kr7wFoSFL&amp;ref=plSrch
Best hand power tool option is a Bosch jigsaw. I could probably make those drawers with one. I prefer the barrel grip model http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004323NQ4?vs=1
I don't have a lot of money to throw at this hobby, and going to the local rock club to use their tools isn't appealing to me personally, so I bought this:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003HIWR08/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
And used this blade, which I very much recommend.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009YUJT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
It's half the thickness of the stock blade, so you waste less material, and it's held up quite well. I don't do a huge amount of cutting, but I've sawn through dozens of fist sized rocks and lots of roughing out cabs, and it's showing no signs of slowing down yet.
One nice thing I've found is that since the diamonds cover the last 1/2" or so of blade, you can use the side of it to do a little seat-of-your-pants cabochon shaping.
All in all, the only real limitation is the size. You're limited to fist sized rocks. Although you can cut a radius as deep as possible, then tap to break it and hope for the best.
Best, cost be dammned? Festool.
Having said that... the Bosch JS470 is a good compromise between cost, power and features.
Personally, I prefer the "barrel" style, but some folks like the D-handled versions.
Previous shower area was around 30 years old. Fake marble walls, small wall niche, leaks in the corners and ugly plumbing.
Over the course of 3 weeks (had to go housesit elsewhere - we only have one bathroom), we gutted the old furnishings down to the studs, built a new niche, added backerboard, waterproofing membrane, new tiles, new fixtures, and had the tub re-furbished (by a pro).
If anyone's curious, here's some products we used.
Tile:
http://crossvilleinc.com/products/modern-mythology/
Backerboard:
James Hardie Backer Board
Tile saw:
http://www.amazon.com/SKIL-3540-02-4-2-Amp-7-Inch-Tile/dp/B003HIWR08
Waterproofing membrane:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Custom-Building-Products-RedGard-1-gal-Waterproofing-and-Crack-Prevention-Membrane-LQWAF1/100169081
Fixtures:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NXT3TE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s02?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Re-modeling-Pfister-Shower-Porcelain-Handles/dp/B001EBWG74
We learned as we went with this (also made many mistakes that thankfully aren't too bad on completion). Upon gutting the shower - found a bit of mold growing on the old green board backing material. Was actually better than expected. We also didn't want to swap out the old 2 knob faucet for something newer (required more plumbing work than we wanted) so we ordered a 3 knob version and just used two of the knobs/stems. Works great.
And a ton of knowledge from this incredibly useful YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TileMasterGa
If anyone has any specific questions, please ask.
Try the WEN 16 Inch Scroll Saw. I got it off of Woot a few months back and it has been great so far.
Just picked up this through Amazon for $85 and am pretty happy with it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003HIWR08/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
This is the saw that you will find in garages and construction sites across the country. It is an extremely well built, sturdy, accurate saw. And it's not crazy expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004YIALZI/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1367836425&amp;sr=8-2&amp;pi=SL75
After that, I'd consider getting one of the 4ft clamp guides, like this one from Emerson, or Kreg makes one as well: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0000DYV40/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1367836606&amp;sr=8-4&amp;pi=SL75
SKIL 5280-01 15-Amp 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw with Single Beam Laser Guide https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BD81BLO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_gnuBzb5NNEHDQ
I'm sure there are better circular saws out there but for $60 I've been completely satisfied.
This one will be good.
I’ve used this one for almost 2 years and haven’t had a single issue.
I built a stand out of one sheet of plywood and use that. Just YouTube stands and you can find some decent ones you can build out of 2x4’s for practically nothing.
I’ve built some awesome furniture with that saw and it looks like the first one is a remake which is cheaper.
If her cuts are all straight, something like a sliding compound mitre saw might be a better (and quicker) option. Something like This
$1500USD for a saw with a stamped aluminum body and table, rickety base using wheels for half its contact with the ground, direct drive? Maybe I'm missing something. It looks like most other jobsite saws like this DeWalt.
Edit: it appears that I was indeed missing lots of somethings. Thanks for the education :)
So you say skip it all together and save and that I'm dreaming if I think I'll get a decent tool for 300?
This is what I was scoping out if I did go with new.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HXT2N6/ref=s9_simh_gw_p469_d1_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=desktop-3&amp;pf_rd_r=0Z1SJ2MMNX30NFRZRY71&amp;pf_rd_t=36701&amp;pf_rd_p=1970567562&amp;pf_rd_i=desktop
And this. Never heard of the brand but reviews are good.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EN2JONA/ref=s9_simh_gw_p469_d1_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=desktop-3&amp;pf_rd_r=1JVDAYMDC2V9F8SKTS1P&amp;pf_rd_t=36701&amp;pf_rd_p=1970567562&amp;pf_rd_i=desktop
I would skip the Harbor Freight tools. If you want a miter saw, you can go with the Hitachi C10FCE2 for $130 new Amazon or $117 from Amazon Warehouse. Or you can get the C10FCH2 for $170 new or $140 Amazon Warehouse.
If you can wait a little bit, you can find the C10FCE2 on sale for $100. I bought mine for that price at Lowes in the middle of June. Amazon had it for the same price at the time.
Of the miter saws you have I would go with the Ryobi 10"; it is better quality than the Harbor Freight tools even if it is not the best quality.
Pricey but Wow
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-GCM12SD-120-Volt-12-Inch-Glide/dp/B004323NNC $695
http://www.cpotools.com/bosch-gcm12sd-12-in-dual-bevel-glide-miter-saw/bshngcm12sd,default,pd.html?ref=pla&amp;zmam=31282435&amp;zmas=47&amp;zmac=66&amp;zmap=GCM12SD&amp;gclid=COiWw4Hew7cCFZE-Mgod7X4AHw $769.99
Woodworking - the barrier to entry can be intimidating at times but in reality you can build a good amount of projects with a saw and some screws. Lots of people make impressive things using just a Kreg Jig and Skilsaw
I got the DeWalt DW745 from cragslist, new in box for $250 and I probably would've paid the $400 for it now that I've owned and used it for a while. Everything was nice and square right out of the box too, which saved some time!
seems to be zip code specific, but this Skill saw is showing up for $71.60 for me http://www.lowes.com/pd_81341-353-SHD77M_0__?Ntt=shd77m&amp;UserSearch=shd77m&amp;productId=1101667&amp;rpp=32
and it sells on amazon for $179 http://www.amazon.com/SHD77M-4-Inch-Drive-SKILSAW-Circular/dp/B000P7MAGA/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1407890419&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=SHD77M
Definitely a flippage opportunity, but its out of stock at all of my local stores :(
I got a Black and decker jigsaw for $30 from amazon and it's been awesome, check out the reviews.
https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-BDEJS600C-5-0-Amp-Jig/dp/B00OJ72LHK
I just got this one for Christmas and coming from the cheapest Skilsaw model to this is like night and day. This cuts through wood without slowing down and little strain on the motor. It comes with a non-marring sole plate and a little snap in piece that surrounds the blade that reduces splintering.
I'm very pleased! This is the barrel grip version, they have a top handled one too, but I think the barrel grip gives you more flexibility and fits in tighter places.
Bosch JS470EB:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004323NQ4
You will get lots of opinions on this. A "chop box" is just that, and is excellent for construction work, decks, framing, etc. Interior trim work as well. That's about it in my book as far as woodworking goes(with a bow to Ana White and her incredibly ill conceived and designed construction lumber furniture); for finer work, furniture, etc., out of hardwoods or furniture grade softwoods, you're not doing yourself a favor by investing large dollars. Also, and again if you are not doing carpentry work, sliders go out of alignment much more than a non-sliding compound miter saw, and if you get a 12" non-slider, you are not losing all that much in crosscut capacity. So, for the money, a good quality non-sliding 12" compound miter saw by either Makita, Bosch or DeWalt would be my recommendation. About $200-300 cheaper than the sliding variety, which you really don't need. https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW715-12-Inch-Single-Bevel-Compound/dp/B000ASBCK4/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1539969968&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=12+inch+miter+saw
I believe that you may regret buying that saw. If you are in need of a smaller job site style saw I would suggest this saw. Much better fence system and this comes with a better garud/riving knife system. If you can swing it I would recommend this one.
I got this one. It's been working pretty well for me so far. Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
Thanks for the input. I don't necessarily need one that can be moved around. I looked at your recommendations--i couldn't find anything on the Delta except replacement part stuff. The Ridgid is a little out of my price range. I should have specified, I can add about $100 to the gift price, but can't justify much more than that right now.
At the $300 level, here is the DEWALT DW745 and the Delta 36-6010. Would either of these be worth it?
If you're getting a new one, I'd also consider this Hitachi 10" model for such occasional use (and assuming you don't want to cut huge things). I've used a friend's and I would definitely pick one up for $120 if I had more regular use for one
I'm looking for my first tablesaw. I'll be primarily using it to rip common boards and plywood for simple home funiture. Hopefully someday I'll be using it on hard woods for nicer tops. For sub $500 should I go with one of the hundreds of old Craftsman 113's on craigslist like this one, or a new direct drive worksite setup like this one? I don't have a big shop, but the wheels on the craftsman would be sufficient for moving it out of the way when not in use.
I work in construction and bought one similar to this over 30 years ago (Fewer features.) and it has never let me down. It's a great saw for the money.
http://www.amazon.com/Makita-5007MG-Magnesium-4-Inch-Circular/dp/B000N5SVEY/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1419277152&amp;sr=8-7&amp;keywords=makita+circular+saw
You may want to invest in a mitre saw. Cheaper than a table saw but better than a handheld circular saw. This is the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW715-12-Inch-Single-Bevel-Compound/dp/B000ASBCK4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1524781731&amp;sr=8-1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&amp;keywords=dw715&amp;dpPl=1&amp;dpID=51sL-KnayUL&amp;ref=plSrch
I don’t own a table saw, but this (http://www.woodworkerswebsite.com/Miterstand.html) portable mitresaw stand is on my list to build this summer.
I bought a Hitachi compound miter saw from a local big box hardware store. It doesn't cost a lot more, and it's taken everything I've thrown at it with no issues at all... It's light but solid, and powerful enough to handle hardwood and 4x4s without bogging down.
Dewalt 12" sliding double bevel miter saw - $324. Regular Price is $349 so it's not an amazing discount but this saw usually doesn't go on sale at all. It's the exact same saw as the $500 DWS780 except it doesn't have the laser line. The rails on this saw stick out way far in the back, so it's annoying if you want to put it up against a wall, but otherwise this is a real nice saw.
I got my saws mixed up, I meant a "jig saw" like this. It's probably the cheapest and most useful electric saw you can buy. (You'd also need to drill a hole to get the cut started, though.)
Drill a hole, then use a jig saw. It'll save you so much time than doing it with those mill bits.
https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-BDEJS600C-Select-5-0-Amp/dp/B00OJ72LHK/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=saber+saw&qid=1562101007&s=gateway&sr=8-3
If you are trying to cut intricate shapes you probably want to use a coping saw if you are doing it by hand or maybe a jigsaw if you want a power tool.
If you are going to be doing a lot of cutting small shapes going forward you might even want to look at a bandsaw or a scroll saw.
> $900
Heck, $900 for eight pounds of machined metal? A really nice power tool, of similar complexity and precision might cost 1/4 of that.
3.7 lbs... buy a spare. After coupon they're under $20 each.
http://www.harborfreight.com/32-amp-variable-speed-jig-saw-69436.html
If you want to spend more a low amp makita would be great.
https://www.amazon.com/Makita-4329K-3-9-Variable-Speed-Top-Handle/dp/B000XULXEO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1481727105&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=makita+jigsaw
Here's a good miter saw replacement.
That's as good of a deal as you're going to get on that WEN. It just dropped to that price for the second time this week and I just bought oe myself. https://camelcamelcamel.com/WEN-3962-Two-Speed-Stand-Worklight/product/B016VD8GAA?active=price_amazon
Someone in this sub posted a quick review last week, too: https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/67nna6/wen_3962_bandsaw_initial_setup_and_review/
Which jigsaw would you recommend? I was looking at the Makita Here
Currently selling for less that Home Depot. It is a nice saw and should sell new in box for close to that fairly quickly. A dewalt planer would also sell quickly.
DEWALT DW745 10-Inch Compact Job-Site Table Saw with 20-Inch Max Rip Capacity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HXT2N6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_rb9Wub0G94XHS
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HXT2N6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_rb9Wub0G94XHS
I have the Dewalt 10" Compact Table Saw (so yes I suppose that qualifies).
Thanks for the recommendation! This is the one you mean right? It seems the Rigid R4516 is comparable.
Depends on what they own, but I use my jigsaw all the time and it was cheap. I shorten the metal downspout, and have done tons of woodworking. Works well in drywall too. I have the previous version of this one.
BLACK+DECKER BDEJS600C 5.0-Amp Jig Saw https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OJ72LHK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_eP4aAb0HP1N2T
Yeah, I'm starting to think the Hitachi is probably garbage. Which is a shame because I love everything else of theirs I've used.
As far as the Bosch, I looked at that one too. I was able to get that one tuned in nicely, but the big dewalt has more rip capacity, which would be nice for handling sheet goods. I know that was one of the things I hated about the HF saw was how little rip capacity it has. With the fold out wings on the Dewalt it's still compact but the rip capacity can be up to 35". This one's the big boy dewalt https://smile.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWE7491RS-10-Inch-Jobsite-Capacity/dp/B00F2CGXGG?sa-no-redirect=1
Granted the 25" Bosch capacity is still 9" more than than the HF saw, so there's that.
The Hitachi C10FCE2 is a perfectly good saw. Plenty of power, cuts accurately, has an accurate, solid fence. It checks off all the essential marks for a quality tool, but has absolutely no extra features.
While I'd prefer a sliding fence to a flip fence, and I really don't like the clamp position on it (it will get in the way of bevel cuts when attached on the left side), it is still a a very good tool.
Plus you can get a miter stand and still be within about $20 of the price of the Makita LS1040.
For $107 on Amazon its a hard saw to beat for the money.
https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C10FCE2-15-Amp-10-inch-Compound/dp/B000V5Z6RG
Are these really worth that much? You can get a brand new dewalt that has a rack and pinion fence and a guard for $300.
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW745-10-Inch-Job-Site-Capacity/dp/B000HXT2N6/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Go to a pawn store or craigslist and buy two named brand saw for the price of one good new one. Use one for the driveway/masonry work, the other for woodworking.
To test them, spin the blade/arbor. Is it smooth or are the bearings clunky/shot? Turn the saw on, motor still sounds strong or is it struggling even with no load? What's the condition of the casing/shoe/plate.
If you're dead set on buying new off amazon then whats your price range. Corded or Cordless?
Skil makes a good entry level corded.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BD81BLO/
Personally I'll never use another corded circular saw again.
A = 24 1/2"
B = 20 1/4"
C = 39"
D = 26"
A and B were hard to measure and eyeballed but I would say within 1".
There is an answer on the Amazon review with slightly different measurements: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F2CGXGG/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
I can't help you with the Dremel tip (since I'm not that guy) but I'll just note that if you live in the US you can get a scroll saw on Amazon for not much more than a Dremel (or less, depending on which Dremel you're looking at). This is what I used.
If you plan on building more than a work bench I recommend getting a miter saw. You can get a decent one for cheap:
[This is what I got]
(http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C10FCE2-10-Inch-Compound-Miter/dp/B000V5Z6RG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1422581816&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=mitre+saw)
My plan was to trade up if I ever outgrew it, but that hasn't happened yet.
I have the same saw. It's $120 from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V5Z6RG
Tell that to amazon. some of their "list prices" are way more than that item has ever sold for anywhere.example i bought elsewhere after shopping around a lot, i never saw it over $800
That's funny. Every single tool I have ever bought at Harbor Freight went wrong.
Here's a decent saw for only $220. I just did 2 kitchens worth of crown moulding with this saw this week.
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW715-15-Amp-12-Inch-Compound/dp/B000ASBCK4/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1409267495&amp;sr=8-11&amp;keywords=12+inch+dewalt
I'm not a big fan of cordless saws as I feel like they just chew through batteries too quickly and the power is always lacking over their corded counter part. I also find that if using a circular saw or reciprocating saw that portability isn't that big of a factor and that I'm likely to be doing a lot of cutting with both. That said this is what I would start with for under $400. You can then supplement as needed with the tools that you actually need as you need them.
Bosch CLPK234-181L Drill and Impact Driver $205
Makita 5007F 7-1/4-Inch Circular Saw $99
Dewalt DW304PK Reciprocating Saw $79
Angle Grinders, work lights and jig saws can be handy when needed but they don't need to be part of a set in my opinion. A halogen work light will get you a lot further in my opinion.
Is this the saw you have? In what way is it insufficient? You can just remove the fence and mark the tile and guide it by hand. You might screw up a couple cuts, but it's going to be far cheaper than getting another saw.
Found a guy (well reviewed) in another city that basically does anything construction related. He said he can cut them for me but his minimum job price is $75. For the price, I am leaning towards just ordering this $99 10" Miter Saw and this $22 10" Non-Ferrous Saw Blade, taking it to the Maker Space and cutting it there.
Do those look like they will be good enough to get the job done? I am a bit concerned, I have one of my pieces measured out to being 1496mm of a 1500mm piece (increased all of the Z frame pieces by 100mm). Worried the blade cut may possibly be too thick for that to work.
Aside from coming with a "coarser" blade, how would it be aimed at construction vs cabinetry? If the Dewalt isn't accurate it should just need adjustment. Personally, I lean towards the DeWalt (I want a 12" sliding double Bevel Compound Miter saw one day) because I can'y justify the extra money on the Bosch beast
I've got this one, holy crap I can't even begin to describe how much better it is than my old black and decker. http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-JS470E-120-Volt-7-0-Amp-Top-Handle/dp/B004323NPK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1420836671&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=bosch+jigsaw
I got the 779 from amazon for 350. I couldn't find a good one on CL
https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWS779-Sliding-Compound-Miter/dp/B01ESCU5WS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1518540274&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=dws779
Dewalt version is the same price
...and this $100 "like new" 16 inch scroll saw:
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/tls/5669993031.html
You can buy a highly rated one brand new for $80:
https://www.amazon.com/WEN-3920-16-inch-Variable-Flexible/dp/B005UKGL58/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1468553735&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=scroll+saw
Bosch 7.0 Amp Corded Variable Speed Barrel-Grip Jig Saw JS470EB with Carrying Case https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004323NQ4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_FSfwDb19JF8EF
https://smile.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW715-12-Inch-Single-Bevel-Compound/dp/B000ASBCK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1511842031&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=dewalt+12%22+compound+miter
this bastard is at the cheapest it's ever been according to camelcamelcamel, I ordered it today!
99 on amazon
Buy a cheap tile saw.
http://www.amazon.com/Skil-3540-02-4-2-Amp-7-Inch-Tile/dp/B003HIWR08/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1313898662&amp;sr=8-1
Do NOT buy this. It comes with 5 drills/drivers/impacts. Here is what you need:
http://www.amazon.com/Makita-LCT314W-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-3-Piece/dp/B005C95E2I/ref=sr_1_11?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457007466&amp;sr=1-11&amp;keywords=12v+drill+driver+combo+kit
http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C10FCE2-15-Amp-10-inch-Compound/dp/B000V5Z6RG/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457007519&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=compound+miter+saw
http://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-PC75TRS-7-5-Amp-Reciprocating/dp/B004V327PS/ref=sr_1_9?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457007539&amp;sr=1-9&amp;keywords=sawzall
http://www.amazon.com/WEN-61720-4-Inch-2-Inch-18-Gauge/dp/B000EJW1ZY/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457007628&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=brad+nailer
http://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-PCFP02003-3-5-Gallon-Pancake-Compressor/dp/B00BMUGQNC/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457007761&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=air+compressor
http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-60-100-10-Piece-Standard-Screwdriver/dp/B0000950PN/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457007815&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=screwdriver+set
http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-51-624-20-Ounce-Fiberglass-Hammer/dp/B000VSSG2K/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457007879&amp;sr=1-3&amp;keywords=hammer+set
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW1177-20-Piece-Black-Oxide-Metal/dp/B001EYU5N8/ref=sr_1_9?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457007985&amp;sr=1-9&amp;keywords=drill+bits
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW1177-20-Piece-Black-Oxide-Metal/dp/B001EYU5N8/ref=sr_1_9?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457007985&amp;sr=1-9&amp;keywords=drill+bits
http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-33-425-Powerlock-25-Foot-Measuring/dp/B00002X2GQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457008034&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=tapemeasure
If you are thinking about cutting small items (e.g. crosses) out of wood, look at getting a scroll saw. These are among the best tools for precision cutting small wood objects. The blades are small and can cut very tight curves. And, you can drill a hole in the middle of your workpiece, insert the blade through that hole and cut from the inside. Very handy. Example video!
The Makita 5007 series saws are workhorses at an affordable price. Used by lots of contractors.
Where are you located that a brand new Bosch miter saw is under $300? That saw is $600 at Home Depot and Amazon, right now.
BOSCH 12" ARM SAW:
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;sa=X&amp;rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS461US461&amp;biw=1599&amp;bih=809&amp;tbm=isch&amp;prmd=imvns&amp;tbnid=VhOggZf9hETkKM:&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-GCM12SD-120-Volt-12-Inch-Glide/dp/B004323NNC&amp;docid=SUBz96dGGZyFbM&amp;imgurl=http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51o1ZQTMCqL._SL500_AA300_.jpg&amp;w=300&amp;h=300&amp;ei=np17T5iRBarD2QXX59WnAw&amp;zoom=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=475&amp;vpy=138&amp;dur=536&amp;hovh=225&amp;hovw=225&amp;tx=147&amp;ty=132&amp;sig=108206764076847164418&amp;page=1&amp;tbnh=142&amp;tbnw=138&amp;start=0&amp;ndsp=32&amp;ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0
Bosch Jigsaw
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-JS470E-120-Volt-7-0-Amp-Top-Handle/dp/B004323NPK/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HXT2N6/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HXT2N6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1
thats my saw. Standard slots I believe.
A jobsite saw from DeWalt or Bosch would provide a lot of the precision a contractor saw would provide, but it takes very little space. You just want to make sure the saw has standard miter slots. If you're using jigs, miter slots should be 3/4 wide, not 5/8 like a lot of benchtop saws. Also, there should be no tabs on the miter slots.
http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW745-10-Inch-Job-Site-Capacity/dp/B000HXT2N6
Ridgid also makes one. I often see them for $200 - $250 barely used.
http://i.imgur.com/hRyGptO.jpg
Poor form having a referral code in the link. Here is a clean link. And here is the price history for the past 120 days.
Tile saw with a glass cutting blade.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_416741-10742-30469_0__?productId=3805957
http://www.amazon.com/SKIL-3540-02-4-2-Amp-7-Inch-Tile/dp/B003HIWR08/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1411864336&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=wet+tile+saw
I grew up in the construction industry, everyone used a version of this saw. So this is the one I got, must have had it for a good 15 years now and no complaints.
http://smile.amazon.com/Makita-5007F-7-1-4-Inch-Circular/dp/B004YIALZI/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1408595797&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=makita+circular+saw
No, I didn't include the saw in the price since I'll be using it for plenty of other things down the line. That saw was a little over $200. You can find it here.
>I have the same saw. It's $120 from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V5Z6RG
Ah, that's no where near the same saw! YOU have a chop saw, he has a "sliding compound miter saw"!
Big difference!
I have a Bosch JS470E, do not regret buying in the slightest (reviews speak for themselves). Had a piece of crap Ryobi cordless before it, which had me questioning why people use Jigsaws.
I use my miter saw much more than my circular saw. I got this guy years ago and have had no regrets.
Can't go wrong with the Bosch, the pretty much invented the jigsaw and are still affordable. http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-JS470E-120-Volt-7-0-Amp-Top-Handle/dp/B004323NPK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1394418669&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=bosch+jigsaw That's what most of my coworkers use, but I personally prefer my Festool. The only thing to worry about with Bosch is the blade carrier which will wear out, especially if you're doing lots of curved or miter cuts.
Also stay away from a cordless. The Dewalt cordless is solid but the battery doesn't last longer than 45 min of cutting, and the Bosch cordless I've used the motor burned and now it only runs at 1/4 speed.
Hard to go wrong with the Dewalt read the 1st review, by a high school shop teacher.
Also I don't understand the people here that never use one of these, or thinks it's too dangerous. How on earth do you cut things to length; especially long stock?
Also as OP stated if he is looking to prep kids for a trade, general construction is much more employable than fine WW, getting familiar with this tool seems would seem to be a necessity.
Im new to woodworkong. Two weeks ago I bought the 15 amp Skil circular saw and have only been cutting 3/4 inch thick plywood so far without issue. I was trying to make Mathias wandel's sawhorses tonight. When I was trying to make the 18 degree cut through the 2x4s the wood started smoking and I could barely move the saw. I stopped and tried once more with the same results and then quit for the evening. My stupid question is am I screwing something up, my saw can't handle the cut, or is there something wrong with my saw?
Thanks!
References:
Saw: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BD81BLO/ref=sxts1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1484700942&amp;sr=1&amp;pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65
Sawhorse plan: http://woodgears.ca/sawhorse/