Man that's weird neither PCPartPicker or Amazon Price Tracker ever shows the Corsshair VI selling for lower then $149. But hey I'm the one making up BS to support my argument right? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gj7CmG/asus-crosshair-vi-hero-atx-am4-motherboard-crosshair-vi-hero?history_days=730
https://camelcamelcamel.com/ROG-Crosshair-VI-Hero-Motherboard/product/B06W2L6GBX?context=search

I never said anything about the X370 having shorter life expectancy then x470 or x570 motherboards. What we do know if higher power draws = hotter running VRMs, being that X370 weren't designed to handle a 3900x's power draw it would be logical to assume they will run hotter then a X570 VRM package. Being the 3000 series just launched we won't know the long term effects of running a 3900x/3950x in a X370/B350 motherboard until later down the road.

Never said I was an expert on motherboards but to be fair I'm going to guess you watched a few videos and read a few reviews and that somehow make you more of an "expert" then me. Honestly I don't need too many facts to support my "bias" as X570 board are more expensive then z390 boards. That's a fact.

X570 has a better SoC that lead to better support for higher frequencies. Ryzen 3000 did solve a lot of the previous generations reliance on high speed ram thanks to its improved SoC and better infinity fabric. USB 3.2 isn't a big one but a feature none the less. For people that actually plan on fully using 12/16 core CPU's PCI gen 4 is huge. Higher speed PCI lanes is going to be amazing for multiple NVME setups. Though PCI 4 full potential won't be utilized for a while, its good for future proofing.

Overclocking is a joke right? Ryzen 3000 has basically 0 overclocking headroom regardless of the motherboard.

Ultimately we going to disagree on this, and I don't feel like beating a dead horse with a random dude on Reddit so yep you 100% right. I'm an idiot that knows nothing about computers, and I'm just a big bias Shintel Fanboy.

ASUS CROSSHAIR VI HERO 90MB0SC0-M0EAY0 AMD X370 S AM4 DDR4 SATA3 ATX Motherboard - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06WXX7DYK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_SzArDb3WBE2ZJ

£124 right now.

Your theory that x370 will win hotter and therefore have a shorter lifespan is not based in reality. They run just fine with twelve cores, and there's no reason to suspect they'll be any different with sixteen cores.

The x370 boards have powerful enough vrms to run the sixteen core like I said, it's just a fact. There's no "they aren't designed for it", because they literally are. It doesn't matter what product cpu is in there, only the ampage they draw.

I never said that x570 aren't more expensive, but you said that Intel has better value for money which is just plain wrong. At almost every price point, amd offers better value for money. Whether it's a 3600 with a b350 motherboard or a 3900x with a x370 motherboard, it's cheaper than Intel's equivalent.

That's why the 3700x alone has sold almost as much as Intel's entire product line right now.

If you're buying a system for gaming, Intel has the best absolute performance right now but it comes in at a slight premium. If you're buying for productivity work like video editing for example, AMD is hands down faster and cheaper at the same time.

This (1500x) is their best quadcore with full 2CCX's worth of 16MB L3 cache https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD150XBBAEBOX/dp/B06XKVNRSM/r

But I'm sure the hexacore 1600 is their best midrange CPU (and best value at under $220). It's basically a higher end CPU at midrange price.

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Cooler-YD1600BBAEBOX/dp/B06XNRQHG4/

Whether the Ryzen 5 1600x qualifies as mid range or high end might depend on your income figure. I'd consider it either. $270 at Amazon right now.
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-1600X-Processor-YD160XBCAEWOF/dp/B06XKWT7GD

build was a light athlon 3000G build for 1080p gaming/media for 250-300USD

EDIT:

Since

a lot have been asking for the build (STILL). Heres an upgraded version (new mobo, color matched ram). Obviously the Athlon 3000GE was announced, so its no joke. It will be available on NOV19-2019. For now the cpu will link towards teh Athlon 200GE. Modify accordingly to buy a cheap ass build courtesy of Dr Lisa. LAWL.

Original POST. With the original Pc Partpicker List.

Enjoy. Below my modifed version.

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PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price

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CPU | AMD Athlon 3000GE 3.5 GHz Dual-Core Processor/Overclockable | $49.00
Motherboard | ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $72.98 @ Amazon
Memory | Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $36.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Inland Professional 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $17.98 @ Amazon
Case | Rosewill FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $26.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Rosewill RD-Z 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply | $35.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $239.92
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 02:14 EST-0500 |


EDIT #2:

Already available in Spain/Europe for prepurchase

https://www.pccomponentes.com/amd-athlon-3000g-35ghz
https://www.amazon.es/AMD-Athlon-3000G-Retail-YD3000C6FHBOX/dp/B0815JGFQ8

Personally I like air coolers rather than aio’s because a high end air cooler can do just as good a job as an AIO without the risk of ruining your pc.

If you don’t mind the look or the price I’d go with a Noctua NH-d14 or NH-u9s, if you want rgb but still great performance go with a cryorig h7

Hey,its FractalDesign Define S
This case have really good Fan support you can put whatever you want,plus HHD/SSD cage is in other side where all cables goes so you can even put custom watercooling loop in this case.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Micro-ATX-Motherboard-B450M-V2/dp/B07NH5DBNZ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=b450m&qid=1574475023&s=electronics&sr=1-5

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i promise you will forver thank me my friend had an apu melt the socket on that exact asus board

Pretty sure you'll need something more like this...

Why is b450 required for this rig? Yes I'll concede that b450 has some specific points that are better than the b350 chipset, but we're not dealing with an overclocking chip or anything in particular that would give a substantial benefit the user here. I'd instead propose https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079NH98GS/

Not sure if that's the one OP has, but I assume it would be this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BV1XBEI/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500409831&sr=8-1-fkmr1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Aoc+fhd+freesync
I have it in the (peasant) 75Hz variant and love it!

Its actually £1000.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Extreme-Retail-Socket-3-60GHz/dp/B00EMHM6JK

Ryzen is still better tho xd

XFX Radeon Rx 5700 8GB GDDR6 3xDP HDMI, Pci-E AMD Graphics Card (RX-57XL8MFG6) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T81CGFY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3sJxDb0ZCCH75

Sapphire Radeon Rx 5700 8GB GDDR6 HDMI/ Triple DP (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TFRMJXH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_GtJxDbCJKBNA4

I'd recommend the Sapphire Pulse card, at the same price at the reference it's cooling capacity is so much more superior and it's going to be a quieter card

Some say they're great, others say the cooling is bad and it has coil whine. I avoid Asus GPUs in general due to the eclectic reviews that seem like a 50/50 chance of good or bad.

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IMO go for XFX or MSI. I have a XFX R9 280x which after nearly 5 years, still works like a champ. Worth paying an extra $40 for.

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r/https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-1386MHz-Graphics-RX-580P8DFD6/dp/B06Y66K3XD?keywords=xfx+rx+580+8gb&qid=1540096593&sr=8-2&ref=sr_1_2

It is not.

　

200GE: Microcenter ($40) vs Amazon ($58)

2200G: Microcenter ($60) vs Amazon ($78)

1600: Microcenter ($80) vs Amazon ($101)

2700: Microcenter ($1３0) vs Amazon ($1６0)

3600X: Microcenter ($200) vs Amazon ($235)

3700X: Microcenter ($330) vs Amazon ($355)

2950X: Microcenter ($600) vs Amazon ($622)

2970WX: Microcenter ($800) vs Amazon ($915)

(this list is not exhastive but rather is to give an idea of prices across the entire price range)

　

And Microcenter lets you save a farther $30 when bundling with a motherboard.