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REI's Backpacking Tips for Beginners is a good place to start.

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-beginners.html

You'll notice the first section is "Find an Experienced Partner". While this sub and others can give you a lot of advice, it's not a substitute for a partner who knows what they're doing. That doesn't mean you can't just go out and "wing it"... if you do, don't bite off more than you can chew. Better to take a few shorter overnights just to get used to things before heading out into the backcountry and having an epic. And I think you need a permits for Yos/Mammoth, so better look into that.

The REI list discusses shared gear and personal gear. Most likely an experienced partner is going to already own a tent, stove, cookware... but if it's just two of you with no gear, you'll have to pick up both shared and personal gear. How you want to split the cost is up to you.

The checklists are nice... but before you go out and buy everything on the list, make sure you will actually need them. Start with the basics; tent, bag, pad, pack, headlamp, FAK, maps & compass, stove, pot, utensils, shoes and clothing... and then go from there.

Here's the REI backpacking checklist:

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/backpacking-checklist.html

It's comprehensive, but remember you don't need everything on the list. It's pretty common for a beginner to go out and spend way too much money, and then start leaving stuff home as they find they don't need it on the trail.

REI is a great place to spend (a lot of) money. They've got very nice gear, and a great return policy if the gear doesn't work for you... but you'll pay full retail if you just walk in and buy the gear. With a membership, all full price items return 10% to you at the end of the year so it's not too bad, and they have seasonal 20% off coupons which do help. It's a good place to pick up a pack since they can help getting you one that fits, which goes a long way to a comfortable hike. Ditto with shoes, and you can try out mattress pads and see what's comfortable for you.

You can buy other things elsewhere like Amazon... but it's recommended that you go to a gear shop to try on packs (and buy it there to support the store).

Here are a few recommendations:

Pack - Gregory and Osprey are often recommended. For a beginner, 50L-60L is a good size. Don't get a 70L pack, you'll just end up bringing more gear than you need. Try the pack on, load it up with weights, and make sure it fits and carries well. Sometimes the REI packs will fit you better than others... if that's the case get the REI (and save a few bucks).

Tent - Huge range of products here. The Lynx is a decent starter tent for the cost. It'll probably last a few years, and by then hopefully you'll have more money and more experience and get something you like better.

Sleeping bag - If you can afford a down bag, that's great, they're lighter and pack smaller than synthetic bags. The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a good bag for the price.


Pad - Look at the basic inflatables (keep in mind the R-value if you're thinking of going later in the season) like the Thermarest ProLite. Some stick with foam pads like the Thermarest Z Lite pad to save money. Try them out and see what you like.

Stove - The MSR PocketRocket is ol' reliable. Lot of people have them, but the new MSR PocketRocket 2 is more compact and lighter. There are some cheap (< $15) stoves on Amazon, the Etekcity and BRS 3000T... people have been using them but they're small and more suited to people who are just boiling water for dehydrated meals rather than those who actually cook.

Cookset - Don't spend money on a 12 piece cookset...they're cool, but at some point you'll probably figure out you only need a shared pot and a mug for each person. And maybe a small fry pan. Depends on what you want to eat out there. Anodized aluminum is light and sturdy, but more expensive than other options. Titanium is super light, but doesn't disperse heat well so it's great for boiling water, but not so much for cooking non-liquid meals. Stainless steel is heavy but will last many years.

Spork - so many sporks out there... long handled spoons work better for getting food from the bottom of a packet.

Headlamp - Get a decent headlamp. Black Diamond Spot is a nice one, Petzl makes some nice ones as well.

Good luck!

1. Tent: Eagles Peak II Two person tent - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=50802926
   -This was generous gift from my SO's mom. It may not be the best tent out there, but at free it can't be beat.
   
   
2. Sleeping Bag: Marmot Aspen Minimalist 40 - http://www.trailspace.com/gear/marmot/aspen-40-ultralight/
   -Got this for its small size and light weight. Future winter camping trips are a possibility, in which case I plan on snagging a wool blanket of sleeping bag liner.
   
   
3. Sleeping Pad: RidgeRest Classic - http://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6433-Parent-RidgeRest-Classic-Mattress/dp/B00HZ13OYG
   -Simple basic sleeping pad, I've been using these since scouts and have wanted for nothing more, especially because of its light weight.
   -In the event of winter camping, is this enough to insulate from the ground? If not, what could be added to my sleep system to keep me insulated from the ground?
   
   
4. Cookware: Pot Pan stackable combo - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FQZEYWE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
   -Lightweight and simple, these were cheap and seemed straight forward.
   -They stack with the majority of either piece's empty space facing each other, allowing for decently dry storage for matches etc. inside.
   -Comes with a tight fitting mesh ditty bag
   
   
5. Small Camp Grill - Coghlan's Camp Grill - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OPHA0S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Another straight forward and cheap piece,
   -This is really an optional piece, I plan on bringing it along on trips with big groups or when cooking meat is in the cards.
   
   
6. Plates x2: Coleman Enamel plates - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009PUSPI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -These are the camping gold standard in my book, been using them since scouts.
   
   
7. Stuff Sacks x3: REI pack of 3 Ditty Sacks 2, 3, and 7 liter. -http://www.rei.com/product/795047/rei-ditty-sack-package-of-3
   -Came in a decently affordable combo pack, plan on using them for food/toiletries storage and bear bags.
   
   
8. Knife: Morakniv Companion Straight Knife - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Love this little knife, cheap but durable and was a shaver straight out of the box.
   -Came with a super thick plastic sheath
   
   9)Hatchet: Estwing Hatchet - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TNWD40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
   -Heard this was a classic, people say they've still got the one's their grandfather's used. It's heavy, but I'm happy with the tradeoff.
   -Got it sharpened well enough to cleanly slice through paper at the moment
   
   
9. Axe Sharpener: Lansky Dual Grit Sharpener - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
   -Great sharpener, pretty much the go to field sharpener from what I've gathered.
   -Only took a couple minutes to learn how to use, the only hard part is consistently following the bevel through each stroke, but it gets easier.
   
   
10. Camp Towels x2: Microfiber quick-drying towels - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B8FW0Y?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -Very great, medium size towels with their own tote
    
    
11. Collapsible Water Jug: REI 2.5 gallon collapsible water jug - http://www.rei.com/product/402099/reliance-fold-a-carrier-water-carrier-25-gal
    -Seems great, picked it up at REI physical store then read reviews and got spooked, we'll see though, a minority of the reviewers swear by it.
    -Just in case it sucks, any suggestions for a collapsible water container of equal size/price?
    
    
12. Water Bags x2: 33 oz Bag style canteens - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010OLZ3E2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
    -These came free with my water filter, and they have many good reviews. If they do well, I may buy some extras.
    
    
13. Wine Skin: 2L - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CN4RN42?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
    -More showing of my primitivist ass, and I thought I could take some weight off of my SO by carrying enough water for the two of us.
    
    
14. Pillows x2: Field and Stream - http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=33581126
    -Got these a long time ago when I knew less, they are pretty bulky and my first item I want to replace
    
    
15. Pack: Kelty Redwing 50L Black
    -SO's mom gifted this this Christmas, so amazing and thoughtful, one of the best gifts I've ever gotten and I love the color
    
    
16. Shoes: Skechers Trail Runners - I found these at the thrift store for a stunning 12 bucks and they fit perfectly
    
    
17. Lighting: Outlite Lantern -http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01178FLM0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
    -Pack of flashlights (might not bring all four) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V639BNC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01
    
    
18. Extras: Tarp as groundcloth, some extra stakes.
    
    Items not shown:
    -Always a tin or bag of Drum Tobacco and papers
    -Kindle, old generation one
    -Collapsible trowel
    -Paracord
    -Burlap shoulder bag for gathering kindling etc
    
    Items still wanted (suggestions greatly appreciated):
    -Knife for SO
    -Work gloves
    -Plastic flasks for booze
    -Belt pouch
    -Higher quality tarp
    -Knife Sharpener
    -Sleeping bag liner or wool blanket
    -Any food suggestions!
    -Rain cover for pack
    -Smell proof food bags
    
    I don't have much experience outside of scouts, so I'm very open to critique of my setup. I will warn that I am very much into primitivism, and camping for me is a gateway to a backcountry, esthetic lifestyle I one day I hope to live, so some of my gear choices may not always be the most efficient. Any advice from a primitivist or purist standpoint is doubly appreciated.
    
    

OK, here is a brain dump of whatever comes into my mind. Just hoping to spark your memory so don't get mad if I say a bunch of stuff you already know...

Put all the pieces into a lighterpack.com account and checkout r/Ultralight before you buy (head over there and burn down the sidebar reading list and the incomplete-wiki, it's worth it).

Is that Osprey really 70 L? That's huge. Probably weighs a ton, what are you bringing that fills up 70 L on a 3-5 day summer trip? A 50 L beer keg? Maybe you have some sweet luxury items that take up a lot of space in the pack, but I'd drop the volume on the pack to at least 50 L. If you can manage it, Try a Ultimate Direction Fastpack 30. But if you just can't get your volume that small, get what works. Weight is an issue too, in frameless packs the straps are uncomfortable over 30 lbs, sometimes less. But if you make some smart choices right now, you shouldn't bust 30 lbs. (It's also smart to get the rest of the gear first to get an idea of how much volume you'll need in your pack and if you'll need a frame.)

Research quilt vs sleeping bag. Quilts are big these days unless you are a crazy sleeper. Enlightened Equipment is the shiz. I've bought 4 quilts and made 3 DIY and EE are the best I've tried. EE also sells a synthetic quilt called the prodigy which I use in the summers or as a layer in the winters. I hear that Katabatic quilts are truly the best if the price tag doesn't scare you away. And a super cheap, but quality option though on aliexpress, it's buy at your own risk. Worked for me last time, doesn't mean it will next time.

Massdrop is selling a skinny UL static V (and the insulated verion) right now for cheap. (I own the insulated option and bought it from massdrop.) But there's a lighter not-as-skinny pad called a Thermorest Neoair Xlite. Also the sea to shining sea ultralight pad gets high marks. So look at those, see what other pads are popping on r/ultralight, the balance the weight and costs to your preference. (Assuming you know about r-values and what your needs will be in Maine/Vermont. I'm guessing spring is a little cold so maybe r=~4 in the early spring or high altitude?)

Nemo tents are great. If you're only camping spring/summer I'd get a much lighter weight tarp tent. Like 3 lbs or less including stakes/cords (and footprint if your tent has a bathtub floor).

11-14 oz MSR Whisperlite is awesome. Stoves are pretty personal, it's best to go with one you trust. MSR is probably the right choice for you. I use a tiny 2oz stove and a homemade windscreen. My stove is finicky and too small if you're cooking for 2 or more. However, there's a whole mess of stoves between the 2oz and 14 oz which might still cover you and save you a few ounces or half a pound. Like the Kovea Spider which I also have, and use in the cold (gas liquefies and fuel can must be inverted, so I need a freestanding stove with a tube). I'm personally biased against the jetboil because of how much space it takes in my pack, but I own 2. They are fast, good for groups. Again the MSR is NOT a bad choice.

You also need a cook pot. Titanium is a waste of money, find a cheap Aluminum one for the same results. Like the olicamp ones, or if you want a real lid, you'll have to spend more (the metal lids cost way more for some odd reason).

Water filtration. Everybody ravs over the Sawyer Squeeze and I guess I'm out of the loop having never tried it. Fretting about making sure my filter doesn't freeze seems like a source of anxiety. I'll try it eventually though. I like the hand pump water filters. I rock an MSR hyperflow. And if I'm in a big group, I'll break out my Katadyn 6L Gravity Filter.

Get a down jacket from costco or sams for 20$, if you're camping in it, you'll wear it out so no use spending a ton there. (Down packs small and won't take up nearly any pack space)

Get a headlamp, I prefer blackdiamond or Fenix. For BD this image sums it up very nicely. For fenix there's a variety but I am currently using the HL55 (900 lumens). Again look at the weights, but also look at the battery requirements and the longevity/efficiency. Find what you like.

Ok my brain is dumped. Hopefully I hit on something worth your time. If I were you, I'd go as cheap as possible, then put the savings into funding your travel for hiking or buying a kayak. Random, I know, but having blown tons of money on gear I feel like there's quality for a good price if you look for it. And using the extra money to break into a new hobby opens the door to a potentially mind altering experience. Especially a related hobby like kayaking, fishing, snowshoeing, rock climbing, diving (though this one is lots of money), or whatever's clever.

You'll need to list a budget if you want valuable advice. Like most camping gear - these items can go for a wide range of prices / quality. You generally get what you pay for - so the bigger budget the better quality.

Are you shopping in the USA or abroad? Online or local shops? Different areas have different brands available.

When / where will you do the majority of your camping? Don't need to list the specific parks - but a general idea of the temps and terrain you'll be using this equipment would be idea. Warm beaches or snowy mountains, Windy plains or thick forests, etc.

You said car / base style camping - that's a valuable distinction. Backpacking / wilderness style gear would be very different.

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Tent - 4-person tent for 2 people is best for car camping, you could even go higher for more room/comfort.

Stove - a 2-burner propane stove would be ideal. Coleman brand is classic.

Lantern - a propane lantern is old-school, but bright / effective. I'd probably go with a battery powered option though, easier to deal with.

cookware - tons of options here. You could start by going to your local Thrift Store. Get the basics, they even have cast iron there often. Then get a plastic tub to store it all in - as your kitchen kit grows it will be valuable to store it all together for transport.

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Without knowing the answers to my above questions, I'll throw out some basic gear options for you to check out:

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Tent

• https://www.rei.com/product/894015/rei-co-op-kingdom-4-tent
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sundome-4-Person-Tent-Green/dp/B004J2GUOU
  
  There are other top brands, but the REI one is good quality for the cost. The Coleman one is cheap, but highly popular and good enough for most. Kind of 2 ends of the spectrum there.
  
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  Stove
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Stove-Ppn-BRN-Triton/dp/B00VTJGWNU
  
  This one really is the standard, I don't recommend any other option personally.
  
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  Lantern
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Northstar-Propane-Lantern-Case/dp/B00HUG7OZQ
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Portable-Camping-Flashlights-Batteries/dp/B00XM8HTIS
  
• https://www.amazon.com/rechargeable-camping-batteries-EdisonBright-Batteries/dp/B01HB4WK3M
  
  Tons of options in the battery category. Might as well start cheap and see if it works well enough. I rarely even use my lantern anyway. I sit by the fire or use my headlamp. Better to invest in a good headlamp I'd say.
  
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  Cookware
  
  
• https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Adventure-Base-Stainless-Steel/dp/B01MTFIMUC
  
• https://www.amazon.com/GSI-Outdoors-Superior-Backcountry-Cookware/dp/B006ERSCNA
  
  Kits are a good way to get started. Then add single items like tongs, knives, wash buckets, etc. as needed. I really do suggest using items from the thrift store whenever possible. That way you don't care if it gets dinged up or burnt while camping.

I'm going to be trying out my Aegismax bag next week when I hike the Loyalsock Trail. I'm expecting highs in the 80s and lows in the 50s, but wouldn't be surprised if it got into the 40s. Aegismax says the comfort zone is +2-8C (35-45F). I tried it out overnight last weekend and was right on the edge of comfort during the coldest hours of the night. I think it was in the low 50s or so, but I didn't have a thermometer. I didn't use a liner, and I was sleeping in my skivvies. I'll admit I was a tad disappointed that the comfort zone wasn't anywhere near 35F, but I know I could improve on that by wearing long underwear and/or using a liner.

The point is it's going to depend on the quality of the bag, your sleeping clothes/liner, and your pad. The latter is very important. The Aegismax is super cheap and super light (under a pound), but relatively low quality. A fleece blanket becomes a viable option when it's warm enough.

As for combining two bags for winter, I can't tell you for sure, but I would imagine that it wouldn't work very well. Sleeping bags work by trapping warm air, and I think that using two quilts on top of each other would cause too much air to escape. I use a 20 degree bag, liner, and base layer in the winter on top of a CCF pad and an inflatable pad. It works pretty well because I can keep the warm air inside the bag, although my shoulders get cold because it's a rectangular bag. A mummy bag may work better.

I haven't used that backpack you're looking at but I can tell from its design, that it doesn't look like it'll carry the weight comfortably if you're planning on a 3 day backpacking trip in wilderness. This pack is probably better for normal travel so if you're car camping and have access to amenities then this pack should do fine. It also doesn't look big enough to carry a tent, sleeping bag, food, water, etc.

Assuming you'll be deeper in wilderness and using a tent, sleeping bag, pad, etc., I would recommend something that will carry comfortably (aim weight toward your hips and reduce weight on your back) and there are better options out there. You'd want a backpacking backpack at least and you can probably find lots of options within (or close to) your budget.
Below are a few suggestions within a few different price ranges (not sure how strict your budget is).
Side note: I used to own the previous version of the Teton - it was my first backpack - for the price it did a pretty good job and never had any major complaints:

TETON Sports Scout 3400 60L

Mountaintop 55L Backpacking Pack

Mountaintop 65L Internal Frame Backpack Hiking Backpack with Rain Cover

50L Hiking Backpack EocuSun Waterproof Camping Backpack Outdoor Sport Lightweight Backpacking Bag

Hope this helps - have fun on your trip!

I would not recommend this. choices differ between if you are backpacking/hiking to a camp or just driving in/car camping. Gear can be expensive or reasonable but If you are just starting out, I would not recommend buying expensive gear before you know what provides you value. Everyone's different so some questions only you will be able to answer once you go a few times. I would recommend going conservative on cost to start out until you know what you prefer (Checking out other peoples gear on camping trips/ REI browsing sessions are a gold mine)

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Sleeping Bag depending on what the night time low temps are (based mostly on how high the elevation youre going to be sleeping at this time of year) you don't need a sleeping bag, I would instead recommend a light packable down quilt like the one from Costco or This cost: $20-$40

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pricier sleeping bag option

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XE2SKG2/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=darwionthe-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B00XE2SKG2&linkId=faa0813c08ae84dc66e192d16eef9fde

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Sleeping Pad Basic sleeping pad :https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZWW2FD/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=darwionthe-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01LZWW2FD&linkId=7f466defe405f13e4d8f457436a33b6c $35-$40

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I personally use the Klymit Static V, You can get them refurbished for very little on Amazon/Ebay

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Tent Lots of options here, a few of them good for a low price. Decision is if you're going to be going solo or taking company (Size) and again how light you want to go on the weight. Freestanding tents generally provide more shelter but can be hotter in the summer and generally heavier. Some people choose only a light tarp setup for ultralight backpacking. its a personal choice but I would definitely take some time to think what suits your need on this. A few options.

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(requires trekking poles) light

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J9XWJEI/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=darwionthe-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B01J9XWKHY&linkId=df511cfe28f404892810dfcda5f5560d&th=1&psc=1

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Freestanding option $112

https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-Camping-Backpacking-Tent/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1563337921&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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Cheaper $95

https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-Lynx-1-Person-Tent/dp/B00BMKD1DU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=1p+tent&qid=1563338006&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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For the tent I would recommend spending a little more if you are strictly buying for car camping, itll have more longevity and youll be using it for a few years. This is my car camping tent. $260

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M87LPMU/ref=twister_B07BWCR88J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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I would highly recommend investing in some permethrin/bug spray, a good hat and a Head Net to go along with it.

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Happy trails.

Mountaintop 40 liter pretty good for 40 bucks, however I'm upgrading again soon. This one is great and I've had it for about two years now with no sign of wear and tear but I wish I had gone with a 50 or 60 liter bag as the 40 really strains for space on a week long trip. Its perfect for about three days however and that's usually what I do anyway. here's some pics of mine the thing I was most concerned about was support and this does a decent enough job, I'd say 7/10. It has molded foam support which is good but a external frame style seems better to me ( however that's a opinionated subject ) id reccamend going ahead and getting either this one or a larger Teton, or the larger version of mine if your planning on staying out for more than 5 days or so. Less than that and I'd highly recommend mine :)

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Powerhouse-Dual-Fuel-Camping-2-Burner/dp/B00006I56J/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1MJLK6B5SM31I&keywords=coleman+powerhouse+stove&qid=1556851905&s=gateway&sprefix=coleman+powerhouse%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-1

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I like this stove, if you are car camping, as you can use gasoline and don't need to carry around propane tanks.

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As others said, leverage the REI beginner packs such as:

https://www.rei.com/product/127720/rei-co-op-backpacking-bundle

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https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sundome-4-Person-Tent-Green/dp/B004J2GUOU/ref=sr_1_3?crid=28ZQTQZ7X04R3&keywords=coleman%2Bsundome%2B4%2Bperson&qid=1556852004&s=gateway&sprefix=coleman%2Bsun%2Caps%2C143&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

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Is a fantastic starter tent.

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As others said, totes are your friend. Remember to bring TP and sanitizer. Water storage is useful too https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-Desert-Patrol-6-Gal-Water-Jug/16537207

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Do some research on fire starting to save yourself some headaches. Try to save up some newspaper or packing paper to make your lives easier.

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Good luck and have fun. Sounds like an amazing trip!

Those are the poles, I actually edited my reply, perhaps while you were typing out yours.

I cant really say anything about the tent, you will have to trust the reviews. It still looks a bit heavy at almost 7lbs but with your budget I am not sure how much better you can do. You would need to bump up to probably close to $200 just for the tent. (For example: my wife and I took the marmot limelight 3 person tent out and it weighs in at just under 7lbs, I still felt it was really heavy splitting the cost.)

That sleeping bag has actually been debated recently. For the price it is hard to believe the claimed rating, there are concerns that it wont be warm enough. If you do go with that one you might want to try it out somewhere close to home/car first if you can.

I don't have a lot of experience with specific sleeping pads but the klymit static V insulated is a pretty popular budget option and has a 4.4 r value. It is currently $55. Its comfortable enough , my wife used that one when we went out.

If you happen to be near an REI check and see if they are having a members garage sale on December 1st, many locations are. They can have some huge discounts on gear, you just have to be careful before you buy as there are no returns. I got a 3.4lb 2 person tent for 60% off and the REI magma 10 sleeping bag for 50% off. The prices might be a little more than your current budget but you can really find some awesome prices on quality gear. If you aren't already a member it will be $20 to join (lifetime membership).

hey man welcome to bushcrafting so far you have a pretty decent list but i'd like to give you suggestions from what I learned throughout the years.

knife- good choice for chopping and batoning but too much blade to use whittling and making small cuts. generally you want to use either large blade/small blade or axe/ small blade combos.

backpack- 65L is very overkill unless your doing 5 day+ with clothing for every day. I would suggest something in the range of 45L max.

compass- do you know the area your going to or do you really know how to use it? I know every person says to just have one just in case but if they already know their terrain or dont even know how to use the dang thing its just wasting space.

ferro rod- generally stay away from things like multi use gear. also just from my experience you want a long rod (5"+) for more surface area to generate more sparks for an easier chance to catch fire.


pillow- I would not use hammock pillows for on ground sleeping. they're extremely small and have almost no support on the count of your body is in a curling position in a hammock. I would suggest something like an inflatable pillow for you to adjust for your support and then covering it with something like a shemagh or t-shirt.


first aid- your going to get more cuts, scrapes and burns so I would buy extra of that stuff, but I would also add some quick clot just for the off chance of having a serious injury out in the field. and also some moleskin for your feet and pain relievers. and dont forget sunscreen.


now for some additions for your gear loadout.

saw and stay away from those stupid hand chainsaws


cooking vessal


cowhide gloves


Again; welcome and I hope you enjoy yourself and grow with your errors out in the field.

I'm not sure where you live, but buying gear in Scandinavia will cost a pretty penny. You probably need an ~15F/-10C bag to be comfy (as the weather looks to low around freezing). Else look for a COMFORT RATING around freezing (32F/0C). While a $300+ bag will probably be "better" (by better I mostly mean lighter) you should be able to find something reasonable for quite a bit less assuming you don't live in Scandinavia. Both of the bags you were looking at are from reputable companies, I can't read them (google translate isn't working for the site) but if they are within the ratings above and are acceptable in size/weight they will be fine. Make sure to get a good mat if you don't have one. I recommend klymit. Hope this helps!

The best $10 you’ll ever spend on gear is https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Hikers-Gear-Guide-Second/dp/1426217846/

Mostly because it’ll teach you how little gear you really need, how common things can suffice, where to put your $$ when you do buy, and avoid making poor purchases.

Buying the latest is always expensive but the last model or two is often 95% as good and 70% less, if patient and you hunt across the entire Web.

Sometimes the super cheap AliExpress is the way to go, other times it’s best to save up for that Katadyn. With the book, plus seeking specifics in r/ you’ll know

I've been using a Kelty Salida 2 for about 7 years now. It's a solid tent that didn't cost an arm and a leg.

I've eyeballed other tents but honestly, I like it because it's not too heavy, and can be set up in a pinch (there are just two poles, and the tent snaps onto them).

I've used it only a couple of times in the rain and it held up well. I've used it in the snow as well and it works just fine.

https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-2-People-Grey/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522942630&sr=8-1&keywords=kelty%2Bsalida%2B2&th=1&psc=1

EDIT: I did immediately buy better stakes (the red MSR ones). It's worth the expense.

Spend the extra $20 on a Kelty tent if only for their customer service. My gf, myself and our dog fit in a Grand Mesa 2 we got for $125 CDN on Amazon. It's 4lbs even and the design is smart, I have nothing but good things to say about it.

https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-Camping-Backpacking-Tent/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=grand+mesa+2&qid=1563807872&s=gateway&sr=8-2

There is the Salida 2, I believe the difference between it and the Grand Mesa 2 is that the door on the Mesa is by your head rather than the side, so you can slide out instead of having to crawl over your partner.

For car camping I have a cheap-o $40 Walmart 4-5 person tent that can fit a double air mattress, and a bunch of packs. It's whatever the equivalent to Ozark Trail was 7 or 8 years ago. Super simple design but it's been dry through rainstorms as long as you stake out the fly. We use it several times per year, it takes like 5 minutes to set up.

We wouldn't want to use the backpacking tent (or sleeping pads) when we don't have to, so it's worth it for us to carry around the extra tent and cheap $10 air mattress but YMMV.

I'm doing my first camp in a long time next week with the scouts too. We are in Utah, but expect 30s overnight.

I am taking a cot, with an insulated sleeping pad, and a 0° bag. My son is fine in his 0° bag in a hammock, he's done a few at this temp without being too cold (even without an underquilt or pad).

I'm also a side sleeper, and feel too tight in mummy bags. I picked up a Teton Sports Polara bag, it was a little cheaper a month ago when I bought it. It's really nice. I tested it out with the cot and insulated pad, and it was very comfortable. It has a built in fleece liner that won't get all twisted because it clips and zips into the bag. They unzip fully, so you can get 2 and make a double bag. You can remove the fleece liner for warmer weather.

I will also be trying out an inflatable pillow for between my legs instead of a body pillow.

Check with your local REI store, see if they have a garage sale between now and the camp. You can get lots of stuff at about 70% off. I got my insulated stratus pad for $20 that's normally $100. Klymit makes a decent one that's well reviewed on Amazon and cheap.

Because I am rusty with camping, and getting involved with the local scouts, I will be camping more in the future, but have little to no supplies. I'm building my new supplies now. I have been reading a lot of Outdoor Gear Lab reviews, I like their reviews, they compare different brands instead of just reviewing one product at a time. That's what lead me to the Polara sleeping bag. They also usually have a budget pick.

Is the Coleman stove you use one that uses white gas? If so, look into getting one of their propane stoves instead. Much easier to use. Cooking for a family, I’d think you’d want something with two burners, so that rules out the backpacking stoves. I use this one and it works great. The temp control is a little finicky, but once you get used to it it’s not an issue.

For cookware and utensils, GSI and Stanley both have decent options that pack away nicely. I use a Toaks Titanium spork when camping as pretty much my only utensil and it works surprisingly well. I know Snow Peak makes a similar one, and Light My Fire has plastic spoon/fork options. For plates/bowls when car camping I just use cheapo plastic ones from Walmart. I think they were a couple bucks for five of them and they’re pretty bulletproof.

If you're really just wanting a tent for easy car camping, go with a Coleman Sun Dome 4 Person from Amazon. $65 bucks for the green model. I have this exact tent and bought it for this exact reason.

Took it to burning man twice, held up great. Took it to a car camp in the Sequoias, hailed on us hard, no rain leakage at all. Road tripped in September with it--Yosemite, Grand Canyon, Glacier, Mt Hood--worked great in every scenario.

Sets up quick and plenty durable. Only real issue is the weight, but that shouldn't be a problem for you. I'm pretty sure a queen blow up can fit inside.

Nice overview of your chargers. Good spread of sizes, weights and capacities and their applicabilities for different hikes! Ignore the complainers on here. They can do their own research if they don’t have the time watch your video!

Just for reference and info, I have the following banks for my treks:

Klarus CH1X

• This is my short trip charger, but can be expanded with swappable batteries.
  
• With battery, comes in at 2.9oz. I can add a second battery to double the capacity to 7k mAh and 4.7oz, or a third battery for 10.5k and 6.5oz
  
  Anker Powercore 10k
  
  
• When I just want to toss in a bank for the weekend and have enough juice to run my iphone, AppleWatch and headlamp while tracking my route with a GPS app.
  
• The lightest integrated bank that I’ve found, and regularly $25 on Amazon.
  
• 10k mAh and 6.35oz
  
  Anker Powercore 10k PD
  
  
• I recently went on a 2 week backpacking trip on the John Muir Trail, which requires stopping in at resorts periodically to charge up batteries. The standard battery banks take the better part of a day to recharge, but these newer “PD” banks use USB-C connections and higher wattage charging adapters to cut that down to less than 4 hours.
  
• A tad heavier than the older powercore and at a price premium of $45 (got mine on Amazon Day sale though), plus the price and weight of an 18W charger.
  
• 10k mAh and 6.7oz.
  
• I can also add the other Anker for a total of 20k mAh and 13oz
  
  Bonus item: Lixada “10W” Solar Panel
  
  
• Im not a fan of the bulky and heavy name brand solar chargers, but I f you’re not sucking down huge amounts of power every day, a cheap and light supplemental solar panel like this is a great addition. I’ve tested this several times on open (minimal shade) trails, plugged into the Anker while I hike and it does a surprisingly good job of topping off the bank or getting extra mA before needing to recharge on longer trips. Just remember to only plug this into a battery bank and not your phone directly.
  
• Trim some of the extra plastic off to save another ounce of weight. Do the math by pairing it with a smaller bank and you can come in at the same weight or less than a heavier bank.
  
• Real world output of 3W and 3.5oz

The Coleman Classic is $43 on Amazon.

That said, I really like my Camp Chef Everest. At its high end, it definitely puts out more heat than a Coleman Classic, and the Everest goes lower and simmers better, too. (Though the Coleman isn't horrible at simmering. I've certainly used other stoves that were worse.) The piezoelectric igniter on the Everest is a nice feature, too, though lighting a Coleman manually isn't really a problem.

If you just want something to cook on and don't want to spend too much money, the Coleman is perfectly fine. If you do a lot of fancier cooking and $100 isn't too much, go for the Everest.

I own a Snugpak TravelPak 2 sleeping bag. It's less bulky than some bags I've owned, I think it's around 2.5 lbs (which is very heavy for a 40° bag). It's rated to 30° but you'll freeze your butt of below 40. Upgraded to a down quilt and don't touch the TravelPak anymore. Not bag for a heavy beginner bag but I'd go with this bag if I could do it over again.

Right around November I purchased a Bunker 3 tent as well. It's a really nice tent. I like the fly-first pitch, I could see that coming in handy. I've used it a couple times and now have it up for sale. I'm getting into backpacking which means lighter stuff is preferred so at 7.5lbs the tent is just overkill. A great tent but I think you could grab a lighter weight Kelty for half the price.

My wife and I recently got a bum h of new gear for a trip we have coming up in April. In deciding what to get I did a lot of research price comparison and review reading. My eye was towards price for performance. When I looked at items I looked at online reviews the questions section on amazon(this is a great tool) and even looked up some of the manufacturers. Here is what I came up with and perhaps can help you with gear selection.

Tent I chose NTK Colorado I looked at tents from Coleman, Kelty and a few others and kept coming back to this one. It fit my budget and all the reviews for all their tents were very high. I looked up the company and it said they have been making tents for 40 years in Brazil. I will be test setting mine up today but it looks like a really solid tent for the money.


Air Mattress sound asleep this one I do have experience with as my kid has one and sleeps on it all the time. She has abused the heck out of it and it is still going strong. It was a no brainier for me on this one.


Cooler frosty cooler I wanted a yeti but 600 bucks is crazy for a cooler but still needed something better then a plastic Coleman. After looking at all the yeti clones this one seemed to stand out from the rest.


For sleeping bags what ever fits your budget I wouldn't spend a lot since your car camping you can bring blankets with you for both comfort and warmth.

Camp stove Coleman classic I have had mine for years and the damn thing keeps on going. No need to get fancy the classic Coleman does it well.


My trip is coming up the second week of April we will be going to Zion for four nights then the Grand Canyon for 4 nights then across to Texas where we will be camping just outside of Austin for the Moto GP race. For the tent and the cooler that I have not tested yet I will let you know how they preform.

Probably not, unless you have something to insulate you from the ground. You need a sleeping pad, and not just a regular air mattress. Something that is specifically designed to keep you warm when sleeping on the cold ground. Sleeping pads are usually rated by an "r-value". The higher the "r-value", the warmer it should keep you. There are cheap foam pads to very expensive inflatable pads. Doesn't look like you're form the US, so I am not sure how hard it would be to get your hands on a Klymit Insulated Static V, but they're pretty affordable, comfortable, and warm. They're not great for backpacking but they are great for car camping.

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This stove is my pick. Uses canister fuel, very fast boiling time (about 3 minutes, but will vary by altitude) and only weighs 25g with an adjustable flame. I pair it with the toaks light 550mL pot.

That said, it's pretty much only suitable for boiling water. If you're car camping, you could still use it to make poached eggs or soups if you have the right ingredients. Cooking food inside a plastic bag is also a great option that allows you to get more creative.

I'll second the Mora blades. I have a couple like http://www.amazon.com/New-Swedish-Mil-Mora-Knife/dp/B004TNWD40 this one. If you poke around, you should find different colors in the $12-15 range. Very good steel on that blade - used it to field dress a couple deer and was still sharp.

Since space may be at a premium - many butcher shops in grocery stores will sharpen non-serrated blades for free.

I'd skip the flashlight and get a headlamp. The simpler ones without the battery pack on the back side of the head work nicely and double as a hand held light if you need it too.

I just got this! OutdoorsmanLab Ultralight Sleeping... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZWW2FD?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Not sure if it’ll be to thin for you but it has been working great for me so far. Inflates quickly, gets tight, firm, but forgiving. Slept very well.

For the mattress, hard to beat this price - Intex Inflatable Fabric Camping Mattress with Built-In Pillow, 72.5" x 26.5" x 6.75" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005BAIB/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_WLB6xbKDWT2SS

I've used them and they are quite comfortable. And only $8!

For the tent - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004J2GUOU/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_aHA4xbNBG6KXX. $60

Technically only a 4 person but 9x7 is pretty roomy for just four.

For the sleeping bags - All Season Mummy Sleeping Bag [87x32in] - Comfort Temperature Range of 32-60°F. Constructed with a Ripstop Waterproof Shell, Woven Polyester Liner & High-Loft Fill. Comfortably Fits Most up to 6'6. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DFT0R00/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_MRB6xbG9GZKH7. $42

Trust me when I say you don't want to cheep out on your tent, I learned it the hard way haha.
But if you are looking for a new tent I recently bought this one https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sundome-4-Person-Tent-Green/dp/B004J2GUOU/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1550065392&sr=1-3&linkCode=ll1&tag=ogman-20&linkId=76e6709343313199c8feb3459705a571 and I'm pretty happy with it.
I took it for a spin last week and I can say that it's very roomy and it stayed dry and warm even though it was raining all weekend.

Here are a couple options with brands that have a bit better of a reputation. Ultimately it’s your choice, but I would recommend going for a company that has a bit more of a following:

Kelty Salida 2:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_PhXyCb0V6QC8Y


Kelty Acadia 2:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JBSFI1M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_RiXyCbT3QEMH0


Alps Mountaineering Lynx 1 (also has a 2 person available):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BMKD1DU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_pdXyCb85G6NR9


I don’t personally own these tents, but I know the quality should be there and the price point is in line with what you were thinking. Hope this helps ✌🏻

The quality is all pretty similar. The real difference is in feature set and ability to control the flame-for example there's a world of difference in flame control between a Primus Omnilite and a MSR Whisperlite even though both are high quality products with a proven track record of reliability.

Some of the cheap canister stoves are also pretty good quality, since there just isn't too much engineering that's needed to make one. The BRS stove is a good example of such. These things are really just a screw on valve assembly and a burner, not much else is needed.

I came here to post a similar question. I hope you don't mind if I piggyback with my questions since I am looking for very similar specs.

I've been looking at the featherstone, TNH, and the Kelty Salida 2-person tents. I've gone though a lot of the reviews on amazon's site, but I'm hoping reddit can point me in the best direction of these (or if there's another that is superior).

I use the ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1. It's 3 pounds 8 oz and only $78. Not the absolutely lightest, but I've used it for dozens of nights camping in all conditions and it has never let me down. I also have an ALPS 20 degree mummy bag that is fantastic. I love their gear

These things are a gimmick. Trust me, you'll have a decently hard time charging up 10000 mah with a 21watt anker folding solar panel, but these things dont do jack. Not only that, but lithium ion batteries are not build to withstand the heat that would be required in keeping that battery in direct sunlight for the extended amount of time it would require to actually charge it. I played this game already and learned the hard way. Get THIS and a multipurpose battery like THIS and save yourself the heartache.

The best bang for you buck:

Anker PowerPort Solar (21W Dual-Port USB Solar Charger) for iPhone 7 / 6s / 6 / Plus, iPad Air 2 / mini 3, Galaxy S6 / Edge / Plus and More https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B012YUJJM8/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_.lEJzb0EJVEEZ

High wattage, durable and a good price.

Edit: I didn't realize you were into options other than a solar panel. I personally have an Anker 10,000 mAH and an Aukey 10,500 mAH power banks and they're both awesome. I prefer the power banks over the solar charger.

My friend has the Teton 4000 65L pack.

Material is most certainly a cut above the thin stuff you'd expect on a Walmart pack but not quite the same level as mainstream packs like Osprey, Gregory etc. Don't abuse it and you'll be fine.

They make a 55L, the 3400 series, as well.

Double to triple the budget of the Teton packs and you're into the Osprey Volt (60L or 75L) or the Atmos (50 or 65L).

Try to get a pair with flip locks, instead of twist locks. Twist is the old tech, doesn't work well, and you'll wish you had flip if you put them side by side.

These cost more than the ones you link to, but are worth the price (still reasonable considering.) Have cork grips (better in sweaty hands), carbon fiber (lighter in weight but stronger than aluminum), flip locks (way easier to adjust and more trustworthy).

I've been very happy with the ALPS Mountaineering Lynx 1, which is less than $100.

However, since you have the van for when the weather gets rough, why not get an inexpensive 2-person tent at Walmart or Target? If you look at these links, you'll see some decent ones for around $50 or less. It would certainly be roomier for you and your furry pal. :)

Thanks for the link. I was about to pull the trigger on the Cascade Mountain poles on Amazon that have solid reviews, these look like they may be better and cheaper.


Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XM0YGW8/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1&th=1


Anyone have any recommendations between these 2?

FWIW, I am around 250 and 6'1" and I bought a Klymit Static V Insulated for less than $60 new and when I'm on my side my hip and shoulder don't touch the ground. Its R-Value is 4.4 vs 5 for the StoS, so real close. I have nothing bad to say about the Klymit air mattress- its sturdy, lightweight, and packs smaller than a water bottle. I even bought the non-insulated version for summer camping.

I absolutely love Sea to Summit stuff like dry sacs, pack covers, sleeping bag liners, and pillows, but I couldn't imagine spending that much on an air mattress when one half the price is fantastic.

I have this, and the 4oz tank and stove pack perfectly into it if you take the cups out. Pretty much any cookset of the same form factor should work as well. Optimus Terra, the Esbit set, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005188T90/ref=gl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=I0MRPGUG5HSP&coliid=I25X27QEKXLUNF&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-2-Port-Universal-PowerPort-Charger/dp/B012YUJJM8

I bought this after doing some research. In full sunlight it will charge my portable battery like it was plugged into a wall. But just be aware that solar chargers need solid sunlight to work well. You would probably be better off buying an EasyAcc 26000 mah portable battery which will be able to charge your phone for a week easily.

https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/family-camping-checklist.html

https://www.mec.ca/en/explore/camping-checklist

Nothing wrong with going with the classic green Coleman double burner propane stove. https://www.amazon.ca/The-Coleman-Company-2000020943NP-Classic/dp/B00005OU9D

But whatever cheap folding chairs you want since you only need two, figure out what you like and hate, then buy a better chair with that new knowledge. Cheap chairs that won't break if you don't abuse them cost about $10, so I think that's the way to go over spending $50+ right away.

For car camping, we've never had issues with Coleman coolers either. They're not expensive, you can buy ice at the camp store, and some of them are quite large. Really, any cooler should be fine for car camping because you can buy ice, so the more important factors in choosing one are probably capacity and ease of use (separated half lids, drainage, handles).

$100 tent is hard to come by, especially a backpacking size one, especially one that will be used daily for over a month.

I would check REI garage, classifieds/craigslist, /r/geartrade, ebay, etc. Otherwise your money won't go far.

This is about all I can recommend, but I'm not necessarily recommending it.. Kind of the lesser of all evils

https://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-2-People-Grey/dp/B00NFCFO0Q

I have a Kelty tent and it's fine, but the stitching has come out in places, the fabric can rip more easily than a nicer tent, and it isn't my favorite thing to set up. The price can hardly be beat for a new tent though.

I got this one. I've not used it save for messing around on the living room floor, but feels pretty comfy. Someone even rated it better than the thermarest in the reviews.

Get some poles. You won’t even realize how much they can help until you try them out. The ones I linked are aluminum and do the job just fine, but the carbon fiber aren’t much more.

Also get shoes that fit and good socks. I prefer darn tough myself. Lots of cushion.

I see, good point about being able to leave it unattended. Of course if your bag was the same size (or nearly) as the bottle you could just let the bag run out.

this is the kit I got



Though it came with 2 64 and a 16 ounce bag, a nice mix. It has the blue nipple though not the gray one. Also some tubing

Though it does come with a cleaning coupling which is nice

Truth. I've backpacked for years with a $100 Kelty tent - heavy rains and wind no problem - and a $100 Marmot bag. Somewhere around 2005 it suddenly became easy to get good, cheap outdoor gear. It's not ultralight, but it's close enough.

The pad is a different story. Until recently you had to spend big to get something comfortable and reliable. Now that Thermarest has competition, prices have been halved. Our Klymits have lasted many nights outside with no problems, and I see great reviews for similar pads at half the price.

Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set 24oz Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005188T90/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gmXsDbDGKCPZV

This one has been great for me! Also comes with two cups.

Thank you so much for the detailed answer! The link is not working though. I am assuming you mean these ones? Edit: Saw it.

I didn't pay attention to the weight of the tent. I figured if I was gonna get one, might as well get a bigger one but you're right. I don't think I'll ever need a 2+ person tent, perhaps this one. Also, just checked my sleeping bag and it's rated for 40F which is no good. Think I'm going with this one. I dropped the lanterns and the torches as you suggested. A headlamp and my phone should be enough.

I didn't put in a stove just to be on the safe side since I'm going through an airport. I added this cooking set with one stove, and I'll just get the fuel from a nearby Walmart once I'm there. I'm lost when it comes to the sleeping pad. Suggestions?

I use an Anker battery. I'll bring the 1000 for shorter trips and the 20000 for anything over 5 days. Most people don't need the 20000 but I end up shooting and editing photos a lot on longer trips. Plus I love listening to podcasts/audiobooks and use Guthook or other phone maps depending on the trail. The Ankers are bomb proof, I brought one on the entire PCT and it's still going strong today.

Check out r/Ultralight for more suggestions. They get really serious about straight gear talk and no one will tell you to disconnect when you ask about electronics. Look how insane this thread is about battery chargers haha.

I recommend this one: http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000007827-Sundome-4-Person-Tent/dp/B004J2GUOU/

Amazon Deal of the Day, normally $65 on sale for $40 today only, tons of good reviews. I'm getting one.

morakniv is the way to go

Edit: they have other variations, but all of their knives are excellent for price points

These are pretty popular over at /r/ultralight

you can still get those on amazon for $43 I have them and they are pretty nice

I have this tent in 1 man and 2 man and they're both awesome! Top notch qulity for the price. Just read the reviews for yourself. Don't sleep on amazon. Plus you'll have extra money to spend on other camping gear that you'll need. https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-Lynx-1-Person-Tent/dp/B00BMKD1DU

The Klymit Insulated Static V might be a good option, especially for colder temperatures. I just bought one for an upcoming trip and have tried it out but haven't slept on it yet, but it seems to get a lot of good reviews.

This is a solid budget friendly pot I use (ditch the green cups). It boils water for backpacking meals and will take a beating.

this one



Now if you have deep pockets get any titanium pot from Amazon and save 4/5oz's

For a cheap, lightweight cook kit, get the BRS Ultralight stove for $15, the Imusa 10cm aluminum mug for $10 and fashion a lid out of a pie tin or something.

• Stove weight = 0.95 oz
  
• Mug weight = 2.5 oz
  
• Full gas canister weight = 7.5 oz
  
• Total = 10.95 oz
  
• Total cost = $30
  
  This type of system works best for boiling water to hydrate freezer bag meals or Mountain House-type of freeze-dried meals.

So I am going to get a Mora blade, it is between these three, that are all close to each other!

http://www.amazon.com/New-Swedish-Mil-Mora-Knife/dp/B004TNWD40

http://www.amazon.com/Mora-Companion-Heavy-Duty-Knife/dp/B009NZVZ3E/ref=pd_sbs_sg_2

http://www.amazon.com/Mora-HighQ-Robust-Knife-Carbon/dp/B00816PZ8W/ref=pd_sim_sg_1

At this point the $5 differences aren't an issue, what would be my best bet of those three?

Personally, I'd go with a portable charger instead of solar. I use the Anker Powercore 10000 on long trips and it's rock solid. 6.5 oz weight ding but as I use a rechargeable headlamp it's more than worth the weight. Only 24 bucks marked down from 50 on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Ultra-Compact-High-speed-Technology/dp/B0194WDVHI

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Outdoor-Military-4-1-Inch/dp/B004TNWD40/

I like carbon steel blades, but I also like sharpening knives....

I can't comment on the MSR but I figured you wouldn't mind someone else's comment about their gear. I use the ALPS Mountaineering Lynx and have been nothing but happy with it. Of course since the top is a mesh you need a very warm bag in the winter, but it's light, freestanding, and has kept me dry in the rain.

Unfortunately, the only vestibule for gear is a small hanging pouch that came with it. But it's actually on sale for about 90 bucks on amazon if you want to check out some other reviews.

(http://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-5024617-Lynx-1-Person/dp/B00BMKD1DU/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1452111816&sr=1-1&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A2204488011)

I suggest Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set 24oz Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005188T90/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_tPdSAb2ZQ65Y6

And a small plastic plate. Remove one of the cups and you stove will fit in the pot when packed.

Everyone loves a Morakniv

I use an older Klymit Insulated Static V with my 20° backcountry bed. Fits nicely. Amazon says I bought it in 2016 so it has held together for some time with frequent use.

Titanium mug and a mini gas burner? Then buy your own butane in Reykjavik.

The smallest 100g canister will be good for 15-20 cups of smoking hot coffee.

Maybe he means the BRS stove on Amazon that sells for like 13-15$
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NNMF70U/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478337502&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=brs+stove&dpPl=1&dpID=31OzI0vXTFL&ref=plSrch

I've used pocket rockets and alcohol stoves for a good while. Lately I've been using the BSR Ulralight stove http://www.amazon.com/BRS-Ultralight-Camping-Outdoor-Cooking/dp/B00NNMF70U. Really cheap and light if you go the canister stove route.
Any stove you use will need to kept steady and level. As long as the canister isn't rocking you shouldn't have an issue.

This is lighter then the micro rocket and much cheaper then both the pocket rocket and micro rocket.

http://www.amazon.com/BRS-Ultralight-Camping-Outdoor-Cooking/dp/B00NNMF70U

Others on the Ultralight subreddit have recommended this stove as well.

For hikes under a week getting power banks are going to be your optimal option. Works rain or shine, less expensive, less risk of breaking, lighter, more power for the weight, and less expensive. I've had a lot of luck with my anker so I would recommend it to someone else. At less than half a pound you'd still 3+ cell phone charges per unit which I can attest to. Anker 10k mAh

All of the items below are very inexpensive but not necessarily cheaply made. You can get lighter, but you’ll pay a lot more.

This tent:
Featherstone Outdoor UL Granite... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0727Y4XLT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This stove:
Hamans BRS BRS-3000T Ultralight... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H77FV4C?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This cookset:
Stanley Adventure Camp Cook Set 24oz Stainless Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005188T90/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ybHgDb62GJ9VQ

Could someone help me compare this pack and this one. I'm looking for an entry pack that I can take on a 2-3 (at most) trip.

All you need is this Stanley cook pot (just don't use the extra cups) and you can fit your fuel, stove, lighter, a small sponge, and still have a little room. Only $14.

EDIT: Also, if you're looking for a mug in addition to a pot, there are designs that match the popular GSI for half the price...I think it might nest in this set-up too.I heard Wal-Mart has them but I can't remember the name.

If your on a budget and a side sleeper i would recommend this pad https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZWW2FD?psc=1

This used to be my go-to stove until I discovered the BRS3000T. Weighs less than an ounce and functions quite well for an ultralight $17 stove.

BRS Outdoor Camping Gas Cooking Stove Portable Ultralight Burner 25g https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NNMF70U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_E-FJAbMW831GN

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XM0YGW8/

These are the costco ones, a bit cheaper and well regarded.

Of course!

Kelty Salida Camping and Backpacking Tent https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eb3OCbGBMPAFE

I just got mine on amazon

While it goes down to around this price every now and then, it's not the usual price. You can track prices for any Amazon product using camelcamelcamel.com, BTW. Here's the price history for this product.

If you want lightweight and small, you can't beat the BRS 3000T. It's also cheap, too. You can also get it on Aliexpress for a few bucks cheaper if you don't mind waiting longer to get it.

I bought an Anker 14W Solar Charger earlier this year for emergency backup to charge my external battery (updated version here). It works great. But I end up just using my KMASHI 15000 mAh external battery and leave my solar panels at home when camping/hiking. I get about 5 full battery charges on my Nexus 5 with the 15000mAh battery. More than enough for my uses.

$72

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000007827-Sundome-4-Person-Tent/dp/B004J2GUOU/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1506452413&sr=1-1&keywords=4+person+tent

http://www.amazon.com/Morakniv-Companion-Outdoor-Military-4-1-Inch/dp/B004TNWD40

Now personally I would sy you dont need a firestarter. What I've always carried is a zippo lighter, with a butane insert from thunderbird.

http://www.amazon.com/Zippo-236-Black-Crackle-Lighter/dp/B0006L8MTY/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1459002537&sr=1-1&keywords=zippo+black+crackle 13$

http://www.amazon.com/Thunderbird-Vector-Lighter-Insert-Regular/dp/B009Z2GB16/ref=pd_sim_121_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=31pq1fa90ML&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR118%2C160_&refRID=1PQJGAE9NZ4JFTX7E6YS 13$

The butane insert isnt really necessary, but I prefer butane over the liquid that zippos typically use because they don't evaporate.

Stanley cook set, DZO cup , gsi cup , snowpeak life max stove , jetboil canister holder , Keith ti spork . MSR fuel, lighter, small bottle, and micro fiber rag were found at either REI or Walmart.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EHPVQW

There is a 4-season version that is also on sale today.

This one: Alps Mountaineering Lynx
https://www.amazon.com/ALPS-Mountaineering-Lynx-1-Person-Tent/dp/B00BMKD1DU?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1

For that price range, here are a few I’d consider, if I was buying.

Eureka Amari Pass 3 Person Tent Lime/Grey Green One Size https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AA25TRM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BP83BbMDPJ1B4

Kelty Salida Camping and Backpacking Tent https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NFCFO0Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_AL83Bb5EHFQ0Y

Cabelas brand tent.
https://www.cabelas.com/product/null/2437120.uts

For a few bucks more, I’d go with:
Eureka Suma 2 Backpacking Tent - 2 Person https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078T2NVSP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_JW83BbMJJTY8Q

What about these?

https://www.amazon.com/BRS-Outdoor-Camping-Portable-Ultralight/dp/B00NNMF70U

https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Ultralight-Portable-Backpacking-Ignition/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1511994082&sr=1-3&keywords=backpacking+stove

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-iPhone-Galaxy/dp/B012YUJJM8

My local Costco has these poles for $30 right now, and they are also inexpensive on [Amazon](Cascade Mountain Tech Aluminum Quick Lock Trekking Poles - Collapsible Walking or Hiking Stick https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L2HYPNW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_I-TACb5TZEEVA).

Ridge rest classic $20:

https://www.amazon.com/Therm-A-Rest-6432-Therm-a-Rest-RidgeRest-Classic/dp/B00HANOY9I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492572762&sr=81&keywords=closed%2Bcell%2Bfoam%2Bsleeping%2Bpad&th=1&psc=1

 

Eureka Solitaire $85:

https://www.amazon.com/Eureka-Solitaire-Tent-sleeps-1/dp/B000EQCVNY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492573017&sr=8-1&keywords=eureka+tent

 

AEGISMAX Down Bag $65:

https://www.amazon.com/AEGISMAX-Outdoor-Urltra-Light-sleeping-Urltra-compactable/dp/B00XE2SKG2/

 

Not the best gear on the planet, but serviceable if that is a hardline budget.

https://www.amazon.com/TETON-SPORTS-121-High-Performance-Backpacking/dp/B000F34ZKS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=57608577553&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhLSEicWt4gIVFbbACh1hUg4hEAAYASAAEgLdifD_BwE&hvadid=274684609815&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9052573&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=b&hvrand=16934333135453329411&hvtargid=aud-648278611385%3Akwd-299276976955&hydadcr=17110_9496591&keywords=teton+hiking+backpack&qid=1558473204&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1

I have a Teton and I have no complaints of the bag. Seems to receive good ratings and very affordable.

Out of convenience, I usually use an artisan instant coffee like Voila.

If I really want actual coffee grounds, I’ll bring the grounds in a plastic bag and use a tea strainer. It works well. Just get water near boil, drop in tea strainer with grounds, lightly stir. This is the exact one I use: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075K57B73/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_UUA6BbJCMDBJN

As for a stove, I use this ridiculously light and cheap Chinese stove. Quantity is not great but it’s dirt cheap and I’ve never had one show up not functional. Some will leak gas for an instant when you screw the stove on (more than you’d expect), some don’t. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NNMF70U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_2VA6BbGGSBA02

But it's become so popular on Amazon and eBay that now there are sellers with "BRS-3000T" in the description or title selling an entirely different small stove that weighs twice as much and, in one type I tried, conducted so much heat to the stem that the valve geometry changed and stopped the gas flow until it cooled of.


Here's one on Amazon that has (at least has a photo of) a real BRS-3000T:https://www.amazon.com/BRS-Outdoor-Camping-Portable-Ultralight/dp/B00NNMF70U/ref=asc_df_B00NNMF70U/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198072135009&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16301542988954434560&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033901&hvtargid=pla-317875287747&psc=1#customerReviews and the price looks right (currently $17-$19, it was $13 several years ago).


Here's a listing on Amazon for a "BRS-3000T" that isn't. That brass stem is both a warning sign and part of the problem (it conducts too much heat downward). You'd think "How can you go wrong for $6?", but you can. A stove that shuts off after 2-3 minutes is not only super annoying but also potentially VERY dangerous because once it's cooled off, it will vent unburned gas through the stove head: https://www.ebay.com/i/273601044072?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=273601044072&targetid=595076215808&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9033901&poi=&campaignid=6470636535&mkgroupid=77538519077&rlsatarget=pla-595076215808&abcId=1140476&merchantid=118868785&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1uaEj8um5QIVj_hkCh2nCwTLEAQYAyABEgI_rvD_BwE