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What a demoralizing way to start the day, and what a familiar feeling.

Techniques that I find some success with involve

-- Envision what to do instead:

• I don't always succeed, but here's my ideal thing to do when I find my hands scanning for stuff to pick or find myself all leaned in to the bathroom mirror mid-pick
  
  
• Close my eyes
  
• Lean back from the mirror & drop my hands
  
• Deep slow breath, relax as I exhale b/c a pick is always a bit tense
  
• Pull a smile across my face (I swear it helps, just try forcing the smile)
  
• Make eye contact w/ my smiling face in the mirror and tell myself, "good job, girl"
  
  
• Like I said, I don't always succeed at that, but it feels good every single time I do. Better yet, I have cut down on the amount that I pick with this method.
  
  -- Ways to practically prevent the behavior:
  
  
• wearing a full coverage t-shirt vs a tank top around the house b/c visual access to my chest means I will inspect and pick
  
  
• for your situation, waking up and immediately slathering your hands with hand lotion or vaseline and putting on a pair of little white gloves like these. Any skin treatments you need to do in the bathroom could still be done with the glove on, use your gloved finger tip like a makeup sponge/fancy lotion applicator. The gloves are very inexpensive and can be bought in 12 packs, so you really could put on brand new clean ones every other day if you're not wanting to put a worn glove on your skin (though I'd argue the damage the glove is preventing has a bigger impact than any cream your finger is applying)
  
  -- Substituting another behavior in its place
  
  
• maybe spend a little time pampering your hands w/ the hand cream or vaseline, focus on loving and massaging your cuticles and in between your fingers, make it a moment of self-care that isn't about your face and patrolling for textural abnormalities, but by all means slap the gloves on before those hands start wandering
  
  
• maybe it's shoving on the gloves then jumping out of bed and fleeing the scene as quick as you can, literally run away from the picks, run away from the self-defeat, go in the kitchen and get a cup of tea brewing quick as you can, step outside into the sunlight or right next to a window and take a moment to look up cute animal videos (rabbits eating raspberries or something) b/c you know you wouldn't pick at a cute lil animal and you want to be at least as good to yourself as you would to a pet rabbit. Anything to change the scene, change the vibe. I never, ever feel like walking our dog 1st thing in the morning (he can have a potty break asap but I'd rather wake up a bit before suiting up for a walk) yet it is so rewarding when I do, it wakes me up better than anything else and it puts a positive spin on my mood.
  
  
• I'd put a calendar or journal by my bed with a fancy pen or marker that I like the way it writes, and try to pick up that pen first thing when I wake up, even if it's just to doodle. Perhaps I'd write my goal: "I don't want to pick my skin anymore," or "I don't want to have to put on cover up every day," "I want to feel confident in a tank top," "I want to go in the bathroom and exit without picking." But sometimes the notion of self-improvement is deeply unappealing, so perhaps I'd just write about what I want right in that moment: "I want to get out of bed without feeling defeated, I want to get out of bed without picking."
  
  -- Positive self-talk/coaching where I specifically talk to myself as "You" rather than "I"
  
  
• there is research that endurance athletes who encourage themselves by speaking to themselves as, "You got this, you're doing great" have better performance and outcome than ones who directly speak to themselves as "I can do this." My guess is that maybe it helps to create a little distance between you and the huge effort required, b/c it's a little overwhelming just to feel it smooshing down on you. So I try to coach myself as "you" in moments where I'm struggling - perhaps I notice I'm picking and I hear a faint lil, "stop, shouldn't do that," in my head and I'm geared up to blow right by it and keep picking, sometimes it can really help to encourage myself in the 3rd person like "girl, take the out, grab that life preserver" or take a deep breath and remind myself, "you're allowed to stop"
  
  -- Speaking to my compulsion as such
  
  
• Yes, I know, anxiety and compulsions never did ask to be answered by logic, they are so much more emotional than logic, but it helps me to remind myself that it is my compulsion telling me to squeeze those pores, not anything remotely necessary or anything related to self-care/proper grooming
  
  
• I have to remind myself that if picking those pores was the way to unclog them, well I've picked them so much that they'd never ever clog again, ergo picking them is NOT grooming and is NOT necessary, it is my compulsion feeding me false information "Ew, look at that dark full pore, best get that out of there." It honestly does help me to answer that thought with, "But that's not going to fix it, what am I doing, it's been squeezed a million times and still clogs, squeezing it will only lead to more clogging and more squeezing. I want to stop, not continue, picking my face"
  
  
• I'm rambling, sorry, but the nature of my compulsion is so strong that when I'm doing it in that moment, it's like I've convinced myself I need to, like I'm doing something that needs to be done. So it really helps to remind myself that "Picking is the bad thing, not that clogged pore" and "My skin looks bad b/c of my compulsive picking, not b/c of clogged pores"
  
  -- Visually tracking my successes
  
  
• Put a calendar or sheet of paper by your bedside, along with something you enjoy writing with, a big fat marker perhaps. Mark your success however you want - green dots for picks resisted, checks for the picks you stopped mid-pick, red dots for picks you did, the word 'promise' next to a number if you promise not to pick for that many more minutes (I know I'd start with a "1"), or a number next to the word 'safe' as a way of writing how many minutes you laid there w/o picking - anything that makes a nice visual record of how things went down
  
  -- Trying to feel accountable
  
  
• this sub and writing so much about how I struggle with skin picking has helped. I don't want to be full of hot air. I don't want to talk about how I try to quit and then indulge in a way too long pick session. It has helped to feel vaguely accountable to (the idea of ) people in this sub. When I write to someone on here I promise (the idea of) them that I will resist my next 3 picks. And those picks are usually very easy to resist compared to others where I'm less focused.
  
  OP, I belieeeeve in you. I bet you can kick your next couple picks' butts (heh). And that's what it comes down to for me - just keep quitting

10000000% feel you! It’s such a weird, personal thing to talk about and never realized how many people struggle with this. I know one of my irl friends is on this sub, (if ya see this, hey T!!) and we bond over THE STRUGGLE that comes w picking!

My new psychiatrist is amazing and I guess there’s a lot of research showing taking OTC N-acetyl cystine pills can help reduce the urge/desire to do our weirdness... however they’re ginormous and it takes 8-12 weeks for your brain to change? I’ve been taking them for almost a month now and my legs are still looking ROUGH lol, but you proved here in your post that consistency is key, so imma keep taking my vitamins and hope for the best. Just thought I’d share 🤗

Idk if I drank the koolaid or what, but you can get them cheap on amazon prime soooo I figured its worth a shot :)

Edit: had to throw in your, legs are lookin SO good girl, I’m jealous!! 🥰🥰

These have helped me so much!

The less you touch your face, the better! I use these at night, even on blemishes that haven't fully erupted but feel coming on. Seriously a miracle product.

It is SO SATISFYING to see the patch in the morning, it turns white with the absorbed oils, and honestly, pulling it off my skin, seeing the contained puffy white goo, and knowing I haven't destroyed a larger area of skin trying to extract a zit, feels even better than popping. (And to be gross, yeah, I'll poke the patch with my nail in awe.)

Couple other tips that are helping me stop the break-out cycle-

1. Change your pillowcase everyday. I put 3-4 pillowcases on my pillow, and when I go to bed, I take the last one off, and boom, fresh clean surface. This has made a noticeable difference in my skin! Amazon has endless options for inexpensive pillowcase sets, and is cheaper than Bed Bath & Beyond.
   
   
2. Be religious about washing your face before bedtime. I'm not always perfect at this, but I'm working at making it habit. The ritual of caring for my skin helps me stop picking. After I've washed (Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser) and used my products, it is a big motivator to not touch my face.
   
   
3. I also have a ridiculous stash of washcloths. I keep these in a basket in my bedroom, and use a fresh one each morning in the shower, and a fresh one to dry my face at night.
   
   When you have a pimple that has fully come to a head and you just have to pop it, wash your hands first, and better yet, use one of these tools, and make sure it is sanitized (I use rubbing alcohol) before you use it, and after!
   
   
   
   
   

Fidget toys helped me tremendously. I really like this type https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/4c/13/18/4c13186332a6e6f3e4e62bf6c09ff7c6.jpg and also this type (don't buy that listing it is super overpriced, but I wanted to link to the JR because that was the best one for me, since I'm a woman and it's small enough I can use it in one hand while I read or am on the internet). I have several other friends who suffer from mild to severe CSP and have given the Tangles to all of them and a year later they've all told me how much it helps (including an 8 year old kid). I'd highly recommend sending her a package and also get yourself a few (they're fun even if you don't "need" them) and maybe just play with them while you're skyping with her, stuff like that. Good luck and you're a great partner!

My recommendation for soothing, moisturizing face masks are these Dermal Collagen Essence Sheet Masks. They can’t be worn all night but are super soothing for freshly picked skin, and have great ingredients. Plus, it’s 16 sheet masks for 10 bucks! Can’t go wrong there. I have dry, sensitive, acne-prone skin, and I absolutely love these.

Alternatively, for overnight and long term masks I would recommend Vaseline. It makes your face slippery so you can’t pick, and also keeps your skin moist and creates the perfect environment for healing. On r/skincareaddiction they call this the “slug life” or “slugging it.”

Both of these options are non-comedogenic and inexpensive! Best of luck.

You probably have buildup on your scalp. The apple cider vinegar can be a good way to rinse your hair but it’ll burn like fire if your scalp is raw.

Try this:

• Wash with Suave Clarifying Shampoo. (I pay $2 for it at Target and the grocery store, but I’m using Amazon.com links just for convenience sakes.) Use your fingertips (not your nails) to gently massage your scalp and then rinse thoroughly.
  
  
• Condition with Suave Essentials Coconut Conditioner. Again, massage scalp gently and use a lot of conditioner to cover hair from roots to tips. Rinse thoroughly.
  
  
• Condition one more time, but this time leave a little conditioner in your hair. Some people like to gently splash their hair with water to distribute it evenly rather than allowing the shower water to hit it directly (which would just rinse one spot completely and force all the excess conditioner to another spot. Either way, gently squish your hair from ends up to the roots using a scrunching motion until the water is just slightly milky when it squished out. Maybe leaving 10% of the conditioner in your hair?
  
  
• Eschew ALL of your mousses, gels, sprays, waxes, etc in favor of ‘curly girl approved’ options. Just google those words and you’ll see what you can replace your current products with.
  
  You may have to repeat step 1 a couple times to get rid of the buildup but it’ll happen, I promise!
  
  As for the science behind all of this, it’s my weak area so bear with me:
  
  

1. This shampoo has sulfates (harsh cleansers) but no silicones (stuff that costs each individual strand to make it feel soft). My theory is it strips your hair of the junk that has been deposited by previous products and is basically sitting on your scalp being gross. The shampoo is just shampoo, though, and even though it has sulfates it is designed to be gentle on skin.
   
   
2. The conditioner adds back some moisture to your scalp and hair after you’ve stripped it of the funk. It also has no silicones so it won’t deposit any grossness. It just gently moisturizes (this is why we massage it in).
   
   
3. Of you’re a true curly girl, your hair is probably dry but your scalp (in its normal non-gunky state) isn’t. You need to leave just a little conditioner in your hair so it’ll continue to hang around the strands make it shiny and (most importantly) manageable.
   
   4- None of this works if you go putting a bunch of silicone back on it via gels and other styling products. Drying alcohols are also prevalent in these and we avoid those too.
   
   There are TONS of great methods and products (I use the cheapest ones in the instructions above because why invest a lot until you know it works, right?) in subs like r/curlyhair. It can be overwhelming at first because there’s a lot of science behind all of this but there are also tutorials for simple methods.
   
   I hope that helps. :)

I can totally empathize, as it suddenly got very bad for me too. My picking issue concerns chronic ingrown hairs (some legitimate, some self-induced by creating an "environment" really conducive to their development via picking). Exfoliation is touted as the best treatment, but, well, I kinda don't think it really does dick. I have used these and also usually just over my jawline and neck. I feel like they help a little in preventing/reducing the occurrence, maybe better than nothing. I like 'em because they contain both AHA and BHA, which are supposed to work pretty well synergistically. But pretty expensive.

AHA (glycolic acid, lactic acid, mandelic acid, etc. in a variety of concentrations and formulations) is good for surface stuff like whiteheads and uneven skin tone. It will burn like mad for a few seconds if you use it over any open wounds (and possibly even if you don't). Also pretty drying. You'll be red and flushed, so moisturizer and SPF is a must after applying anything with an AHA.

BHA (aka salicylic acid, like Stridex pads) penetrates deeper into the pore. Good for blackheads and reduces inflammation. Not nearly as intense as AHAs (you rarely find concentrations of more than 2%) but still a bit drying in my experience. My skin tends towards dry anyway, so I always have to use a moisturizer.

There's some controversy over whether physical or purely chemical exfoliation is better. I've heard of the medicated pads having the potential to make "micro tears" in your skin, leading to breakouts but that really smacks of some bullshit. If you find that physical exfoliants are too harsh, don't use 'em. Whenever my skin seems to react badly to the pads, I tend to use this gel. Paula's Choice does have some nice chemical options in the form of leave-on gels, liquids, and creams, but like you said, expensive as fuck. Honestly, drugstore/generic equivalents will probably get the job done without breaking the bank. The fewer ingredients, the better (as a rule of thumb).

I've learned that keeping my wounds from drying out and scabbing over is key to speeding healing and minimizing scarring. Occlusives like Neosporin, Aquaphor, or even plain Vaseline are your best bets. Apparently you're not supposed to use Neosporin for more than a few days, but I used to slather myself with that stuff for weeks at a time before discovering Aquaphor. Didn't have any issues (except perhaps more resistant bacteria? Who knows). People also swear by hydrocolloidal bandages (think blister patches). They promote a moist healing environment w/o having to use any chemicals and you can leave on for several days.

There doesn't seem to be anything that helps very much with those hard bumps except time. Moisture + SPF should keep them from getting worse, at least. Sigh.

That's the beauty of it, there are so many methods and just about everyone is correct. I will try my best to explain, but please also do your research on the subject as there are many details I can't cover in a post.

I started with a book [Minfdfulness for Everyday Living] (http://www.amazon.com/Mindfulness-Everyday-Living-Christopher-Titmuss/dp/0764122606) and using the Headspace app, which is a guided meditation aid. I think it's important to go into it with an open mind and no expectations. The goal isn't to eliminate your thoughts, but rather to allow them to come and go without dwelling on them (or giving in to them, for those of us with CSP habits).

As far as the actual practice goes, it's very simple. Sit in a comfortable, upright position and close your eyes. Begin by drawing long breaths in through the nose and out through the mouth. After a few minutes, you can breathe normally (in and out through your nose). As you're doing this, focus on the breath. Your mind will wonder, and think about other things. Each time you notice your focus straying from the breath, just gently recenter it. You'll want to meditate for 15-20 minutes a day, and making it part of your daily routine is imperative for your mind to grow into this "new habit".

Again, there is much to it and I highly recommend you do your own research to see what styles work for you. The Headspace app is free for 10 days and a great place to start. I hope this helps someone as much as it has helped me.

I'm a software engineer! I've found gloves (like the knit cotton kind) work fine on "classic" keyboards, but they can get a bit tricky on laptop keyboards.

I also pick my shoulders and wearing long sleeves helps cut down on that a lot.

Fidget toys are great for a lot of people, but with habit replacement it's best to pick something you can perform in any situation you might pick (so, if you get a fidget toy as your habit replacement, what do you do when you don't have it with you?). Making a fist works well for me, someone else here mentioned trying snapping and said it worked really well to ahem snap him out of it.

OMG Hydrocolloid bandages. So, they're blister bandages, but somebody smart figured out you can use the same thing really effectively for pimples and started marketing them as such. The material they're made out of absorbs fluid and can pull pus out of "mature" pimples (ones with a head to them). Some people say it only works if they lance the pimples first, but other people can get them to work without lancing the pimples. And you can get generic ones from just about any grocery or drugstore for a lot cheaper and cut them to the sizes you want (they'll be near the normal band-aid type bandages and say "hydrocolloid" somewhere on the label). Search around /r/skincareaddiction some (I think there's actually a picture post about hydrocolloid bandages near the top there right now) and you'll see a bunch of people raving about them or talking about the best way to use them.

I just tell the stylist about it before they even start. If it's a new salon, I call and sort of explain I have scalp picking issues and ask for someone with experience and who is very gentle. No issues so far, just one shampoo girl who was super rough but I told her to be a bit gentler and it was okay.

Here's my current scalp picking remedy list (they have to be used together, make sure you have access to all things here at all times):

• fidget toys. My favorites are this monster and the average fidget cube. Alternatively, a scalp massager. Keep these around to keep your hands busy.
  
  
• When at home, I wear a head turban. That one is super nice and soft, but I can still run my fingers under the edges, so for extra bad days, I use:
  
  
• A wig. A $15 wig from amazon + two wig caps. Why the two caps? Well, I have long thick hair, but also because it's so tight (worse with the wig on it) that I cannot run my fingers under the edges of the wig cap + wig combo. Since it's "cuter" than the turban (at least I feel "cuter"), in case of an emergency, I can go out wearing the wig.
  
  
• n-acetylcysteine. I am currently on 1200mg, plan to get up to 2200 mg. I take 600mg pills. For me, it made me sort of anxious at first, hence why I'm going on 600mg increments (every week, increase by 600mg), until I get to 2200mg. It's made a decent difference so far, combined with the stuff mentioned above. However, today (first day on the higher dose), I feel super sleepy, so I hope that passes. I also take glutathione (500mg), as I read somewhere it helps with the absorption of the former supplement.
  
  
  

This will not work for you scalp, but for all of the other places, I really recommend hydrocolloid bandages. You can cut them to the size of the open wound/scab, sanitize/wash the area, and it will provide a healthy environment for it to heal. You can leave them on while showering and for three days, probably enough time to make a smooth mark instead of a scab. The bandage is strong and if you rub your finger against it, it is smooth to the touch. It will remind you not to pick the scab (it would take more effort to remove the bandage to pick, giving you enough time to think through the consequences of picking.)

I use these on my face while I'm at home, and yes, I've become a bit reliant on them, but they are saving my skin. I can't recommend them enough. The brand I use are these, and again, I just cut them to fit over the spot I want to cover. I've heard good things about other brands too. https://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Tough-Pads-4-Count-2-8/dp/B000VE8E0I

I wouldn't say my mom caused my picking; it's more likely an inherited trait from my dad, although his picking behavior isn't quite pathological. However, the way she handled it was not helpful. When I was in high school, a common mantra from her was something along the lines of, "You'd be so pretty if you'd just leave your face alone." If I so much as scratched an itch near my face, she'd scold me. The few times I insisted I needed help, she'd say, "Then I guess I need to send you to [local youth mental institution]." Even now, whenever I visit home, even though my face is looking the best it has in probably ten years, she insists that I put makeup on before I leave the house to go anywhere, and she focuses on the few easily-hidden spots I have left and says "Now if you could just get that to clear up..."

I got married a little over a year ago, right after I finished college, and now live two hours away from my parents, so I don't see them very frequently. Over the last year, I've made huge strides in improving my skin's health and minimizing my picking behavior. I've stopped using harsh products on my skin and I wear a spinner ring (like this one) to keep my hands busy. Whenever I visit my parents, I try to make my mom aware of what I've been doing and how proud I am of my improvement.

The biggest thing that's helped has been the support of my husband. In particular, he's helped me understand that a lot of yhe relational dynamics in my family growing up were likely not the healthiest. After two family vacations this summer, I realize that I've changed a lot since I moved out of my parents house, and I'm much happier now. I mostly deal with having to see my family by watching their dysfunction and being thankful that I'm out of it.

Omigosh you have to try these bandaids I mentioned in an earlier comment. lol I am not a band-aid shill or anything, but I found them at Walmart while I was on vacation and they are better at staying on my fingers than anything I've ever tried. Hydrocolloids are good for me everywhere else but won't stay on my fingertips. These are made to dry quickly so they withstand hand washing really well. The only time I don't have to change bandages 18 times a day then give up halfway through and end up picking.

Have you ever tried keeping the area moisturized? That has seemed to help me recently when it comes to picking my skin. Whenever I feel an urge to pick at my arms & legs I will usually try to distract myself from the thought as well (which isn’t always easy). I find sometimes it helps to reward myself with things like a good meal, materialistic things, etc when I haven’t picked in a while. It gives me more incentive to not want to pick and it makes me feel better about myself when I can see progress.

I remember someone linking these little finger cots to try and prevent picking. I haven’t used these personally, but I have seen them recommended on this subreddit and I’ve highly considered purchasing them myself.

Link to finger cots

Would also recommend trying something like a fidget device to distract your hands whenever you feel an urge come on.

Fidget Land

Sorry to hear about your relapse, a week is a good amount of time, though! I’m definitely not perfect, and tend to pick when I’m home all day too, however, lately I’ve found these (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077TJHWWY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share) helpful when I’m home or I put on a honey mask so that I physically can’t pick.

More recently, I have found journaling every morning about my picking from the day before and writing down my goals for today very helpful. A lot of it consists of talking myself back up, because as everyone on this sub I’m sure knows, the shame after picking can be brutal... So I try and write about forgiving myself and remind myself to not be so hard on myself and not expect to go from 0 to 100 in a week. I am bound to relapse and that’s part of recovery. The point is you keep trying and before you know it the days that you didn’t pick will outweigh the ones that you did.

Good luck to you!

Hey now, there are plenty of legitimate reasons out there worthy of self-hatred, like not liking dogs or being racist or eating pineapple on pizza, but this isn't one of them!

I pick my fingers and sometimes mine look this bad too. Personally I like these band aids (they're thinner so they breathe better & dry faster when you wash your hands but stay on longer) and these gel-ish finger covers. Both are good as a preventative measure for me.

I started using nip + fab glycolic pads on my chest last year and now I am virtually clear there! Be sure to test a patch first with any of these exfoliants before putting them all over. I hope this helps!

https://www.amazon.com/Nip-Fab-Glycolic-Night-Extreme/dp/B010SAF0YC

https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Sustain-Supports-Function/dp/B0013OVVK0/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=jarrow+nac&qid=1570516088&sr=8-3

This is the brand I use. I take 1200 mg a day, but my psychiatrist recommended taking 2400 mg so I'm gonna start doing that this week. I've had a lot of success with NAC. I would say my picking reduced by like 60% after taking it for a few months. I still obsess over picking, but I don't feel the compulsions as much.

what exactly are hydrocolloid bandages? what makes them special? do they actually work?

There's no shame in antisocial. If your boyfriend is really a keeper, he'll understand or strive to understand.

Do you have glasses? they may be more beneficial to you

Also, it sounds like the kind of face masks you do induce you to pick: stop doing them. Get face masks that are like these from amazon. It's basically a thin cloth doused in the good skin care liquid (they really do work) and you throw it away after one use. Stop the face masks, and maybe cut down on face washing.

Can you try drinking more water? what about taking vitamin c?

also, i totally feel you about the trance

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Compared to the Peter Thomas Roth Acne Dots, the ones from Amazon are a thicker material. You could wear the PTR dots in public and no one would really notice. The amazon ones are more noticeable, and I wouldn’t wear them in public, but I use them overnight and when I’m just at the house all day. I like that they are a thicker material because when I “graze”, it feels like a little gel dot and I can touch it without destroying my skin.

Amazon! I take this one and love it — https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Sustain-Supports-Function/dp/B0013OVVK0

Well, they're really supposed to draw out all the liquid from the pimple, which they do great. Here's a couple brands (I think the Nexcare ones work better but the CosRx ones are cheaper):

Nexcare

CosRx

They cover the whole area, so you're also prevented from picking at it. You can see it working, the patch is translucent and when it has drawn out moisture it gets opaque and bulges a little. They really, really work and are non-medicated so not as drying as some ointments.

I have a ton of these tangle toys and I love them. They definitely keep me from being destructive and are easy to take in public.

Link for those who are interested. These fit my small girl hands pretty comfortably but they might be a bit tight on larger fingers. There are plenty of similar products to look at, though.

I use these ones to clear my acne and help with wound healing. They come in two sizes that are just right for the job!

Acne Pimple Master Patch 72 dots - Absorbing Hydrocolloid Blemish Spot Skin Treatment and Care Dressing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KGCW56F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zSQEDbMQDR73T

Try not to beat yourself up about it. Use this as a reminder of why you had to quit in the first place and why you won't do it again. As for the self conscious part, everyone gets the random zit & no one really cares as much as you think they will. People on here talk about something they put on their spots, I think it's these things -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BRGUNV2/ref=pd_aw_sims_3?pi=SY115&simLd=1