Welcome to my sad little world. I've been on the hunt for MMO/MOBA type mice for the past two months but everything is catering to FPS play when it comes to PC as of late. :/

Keep in mind with a 12 button side, there may be one entire row you wouldn't even bother using because it is too much of a stretch to reach. You could bind minor shortcuts there instead and free the keyboard up. The nemesis switch isn't 12 button side either if I remember right.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-eSPORTS-Nemesis-Optical-MO-NMS-WDOOBK-01/dp/B077GH4LKS

The issue with the naga and nyth is having the laser sensors. Usually this doesn't matter much in MMOs, but you are playing a game that is a hybrid FPS. So I am unsure just how well that works. Then again, I did see some vids of someone using a Reddragon 12 button laser mouse and did pretty well but mileage may vary.

The naga trinity, Corsair, and Nemesis switch are all optical sensors and very good. The trinity would even come with all the sides, but it is super expensive for what you get.

The Roccat Leadr is a nice middle ground as its an mmo mouse but more about muscle memory over just having everything on one side. I used to use a Roccat Kova for MMOs and it works out pretty good when you have your rotations down. Both are optical. I just don't recommend the Kova since its an older mouse and may not be as durable/fit all hand styles. But it was nice.

One tip, I highly recommend you bind your mute discord button to a shift button click over regular click. Would help free up a bit more space for you and on the fly commands.

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I heard awhile back that they finally fixed a lot of glitches with having the Steelseries Rival 500. So that may be worth a try too.

Hey broski. Back in the day, the Zowie bungee was the only decent option, but nowadays almost any mainstream-ish bungee should work.

That said, here are a few recommendations, considering you might like certain brands/aesthetics/colors more than others!

• 1. Zowie Camade The OG, ultra-popular bungee (especially in the CSGO scene); Price: $25: https://www.amazon.com/CAMADE-Bungee-Management-Device-Sporting/dp/B01CKP4030/
  
  Misc: - Used for years in the pro/streaming CSGO scene - Reliable - Red/Black/Silver - A Zowie product :)
  
  
• 2. Steelseries Bungee Nice and heavy with a sleek, minimalist aesthetic; Price: $25: https://steelseries.com/gaming-accessories/mouse-bungee
  
  Misc: - Heavy and solid - Ideal for a Steelseries oriented setup - Matte Black/Silver
  
  
• 3. Razer Bungee Heavy for a slightly smaller bungee; Price: $20 https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Mouse-Bungee-V2-RC21-01210100-R3M1/dp/B07FL2LSBH/ref=sr_1_1?
  
  Misc: - Slightly smaller (4 inch height) - Unique design - Black
  
  
• 4. Thermaltake Galeru Simplest design, very portable if you're on the move; Price: $20 https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Tt-Magnetic-Detachable-EAC-MSB001/dp/B00BOVOED8/ref=sr_1_19?
  
  Misc: - Gets the job done + solid, magnetic construction - Super simple design - Portable, for travel/lans/etc - Black/Red
  
  
• 5. Glorious Bungee Heavy, clean design (personal choice); Price: $15 https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-mouse-bungee
  
  Misc: - Up and coming brand Glorious (popping off recently, especially with the release of the Model O) - Branding + logo (imo) is amazing - Sold in black and white colorways

Currently using the GPW and G305 (use them pretty much equal, if I'm having a bad game I'll switch). My S2 arrived Tuesday, and it's on it's way back today lmao. Shape isn't bad it's too small for me (19.5cm x 10.5xm hands). That said despite the shape, it really did suck going back to a wired mouse haha. I don't have a bungee and I forget how annoying it was to constantly have to rewrap my wire around my desk and tug on it in case it fell off the back of the table.

Additionally, even though I did like the shape of S2, the glossy coating is retarded. My hands would feel disgusting like I just came in my hand and ate a bag of potato chips. Then without even washing my hand I would place it on my gpw and instantly feel clean. You can see it too, my S2 looks far grosser after 2 days than my g102 did after 2 years. I also felt really silly paying $70 for a mouse that from a technical standpoint is inferior to my $50 g305 in every singe way. Even my $27 g102 feels higher quality than the s2 in terms of buttons, wheel and material. Don't worry about sensor, 3360/hero is overkill and I never noticed anything going from Mercury to Hero.

On top of that instead of using amazon prime and having 2 days turnarounds tops it takes 8 days to recieve from Zowie direct. First impression of Zowie, the shapes ARE GOOD, but not really not that special and in no way make up for their mediocre quality and being overpriced. Like yeah, despite being too small for me I did like the shape of the s2, but I didn't like it any better than my g305 or gpw, it was just different.

When I got my $130 g pro wireless I didn't feel like I got ripped off at all. When I felt how sturdy yet light it was, and saw how long the rechargeable battery lasted, I knew I had paid a high price for a high quality product. I have the complete opposite feeling with Zowie.

So in conclusion get the GPW. Better yet, if you're already using the g203, get a g305 for less than half the price. Get these battery shellshttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D6RDQ3S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

with these lithium ion batteries

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYWKBRB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and the mouse will weight EXACTLY THE SAME as the g102.

I know using nonrechargeable can be lame, but I've been using the g203 for a month now and the battery still shows full bars.

Like I said I use gpw and g305, and I honestly feel like I play better with the g305, I'm just so used to the shape after going from a g100s, to a g203 to this over the past 4 years. Despite the shape I still use the GPW too because it's hard NOT to aim well with a large wireless 80g mouse.

I checked all links but unfortunately, no :(

The Soft Charcoal one is almost the same as the packaging foam stuff. It's harder to see on your link but on the edges you can see you can kinda look through it, that's just feather light stuff like this https://www.casesbysource.com/product/soft-charcoal-ester-pick-and-pluck-foam-2-pack-fs04

And this link you gave me: https://www.amazon.com/Closed-Sponge-Rubber-Acoustical-Sheet/dp/B00YV43UZS this foam is something completely different, it's this type of foam you find in sofas or cheap chairs \^\^

The thing with the neoprene could actually be it but I think only as a tiny tiny blend type and I actually found something which has neoprene, SBR and a closed cell foam mixed together and on the first picture.. again(-.-) it looks quite like my pad. God dammit haha http://www.rubbercal.com/closed-cell-rubber-blend.html But their sizes and prices are also obnoxious. The thing is my pad can't be pure neoprene or be a high neoprene base because my pad as I tried to clean it with water (after almost 10 years I fucked it up with a shake .....) it soak the water a tiny bit but still felt like a plastic-like foam type (a bit like my EVA mat) with a bit rubber in it. so I guess it's also not fully closed cell that is even can soak water even tho it feels like that. Just picking something blind on the internet because of a picture where the foam looks pretty much like my pad is too randoms >.> I wish I had a shop near me that just have all sorts of foam and where I could bring my pad and ask some professionals what exactly it is lol

Edit: I did wet a corner of this violet EVA I have at home and surprisingly it soaks the water, feels and sounds exactly the same as my pad, a bit squeaky, like plastic when wet, when I rub on it with a finger.. I'm pretty sure now my pad has to be like a 80-90%+ EVA base!! The surface and maybe density is just a bit different. I think I'll search some different EVA mats up and try some

Keep in mind that most of these will have a generic stiff shit cable nor can I promise the shape will be for you.

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If you also plan on playing FPS with it:

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For 20 USD(!) back at 30 USD, the Havit HV-MS735 is a pretty good budget option. Has a 3360 sensor, 12 grid, side scroll, and is ~107 grams with the internal weight removed, which isn't too bad for a 12 grid mouse, not to mention it being at the current price that it is.

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At 30 USD, the updated Redragon M901 is the lightest 12 grid mouse available with a 3360. Has an additional button on the left side, and doesn't require any opening up to remove the weights. Weighs in at only 87 grams without weights.

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At 60 USD (50 refurbished), the Corsair Scimitar is a 12 grid mouse with a 336X variant. Has the gimmick with adjusting the 12 grid, which is actually not too bad because if a 12 grid doesn't sit exactly right, you either lose full functionality or comfort. Unfortunately weighs a buttload at ~120 grams, which is normally a deal breaker for some.

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Of course the Naga Trinity, which has the side panel gimmick. If the cable is like any recent Razer mouse, it'll have the best cable of the bunch by far. Also ~120 grams, so another monster in the weight class.

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If you don't care about having a good sensor:

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Logitech G600 at ~34 USD is an okay mouse. Logitech software is a lot better than Synapse and the crap the Chinese OEMs have. Has a pretty garbage sensor in it though, so FPS is going to be a no go.

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Honestly though, the HV-MS735 and M901 are good. Unless you insist on using a mainstream mouse or dislike Chinese OEM software, the Redragon M901 is amazing due its weight class and the HV-MS734 is a budget god at 20 USD is still really good at 30 USD if you want side scroll.

I wanted to buy a Zowie after reading this subredit, but they seem to be out of stock on Amazon and I will have one imported from Canada (a friend lives there and another friend will visit him, so he will buy it for me). The bad thing is I dont have much time to waste. As my friend will be coming back from Canada around June the 20th.


So, I have some options that are currently available on Amazon:

• Rival 300
  
  
• Rival 700 (currently out of stock, might keep an eye on it every day to see if its on stock again, if it is really worh it)
  
  
• SteelSeries Sensei (https://www.amazon.ca/SteelSeries-Sensei-Laser-Gaming-Rubberized/dp/B007N6HS3G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1464305270&sr=8-2&keywords=steelseries+mouse)
  
  
• Roccat Kone Pure Military
  
  
• M65 RGB PRO
  
  
• G502
  
  
  Ps: I mainly play Smite, so I dunno what would be the best option. Despite Smite being a MOBA, it requires a lot of skillshot, so maybe an FPS mouse would suit me better than a regular MOBA mouse (when I play, I only use left and right click on the mouse. The scroll wheel only when I'm in the item store)
  
  Thanks for reading.
  
  
  Edit: formatting is hard

NAGA EPIC USER HERE

I just dumped mine after the 3rd RMA. The original Nagas (2012) were amazing but the recent iterations have been pretty poor. Here are the options I found:

Corsair Scimitar Pro This is a smaller mouse than the naga, but provides the 12 button pad and has great software to boot

Logitech G600 This one is just a little too bulky for me, I have very small hands, but it is logitech. The dual dish feature is too weird for me.

Steelseries Rival 500 Not your standard layout, but a good sensor. Large mouse , very similar to the naga epic.

In the end, I went with the Rival 500, because I liked the features (programmable rumble support) and the Pixart 3360 Optical Sensor was a good choice. It is heavy, so not ideal for fps, but i use it anyways.

Also, there is always knockoff on amazon. My brother has this one and he loves it. Eh?

G402/Razer Basilisk - relatively light (100-105g) and pretty decent. Basilisk is more favorable to me because it has a short and a long DPI clutch button,so depending on your grip, you can use whichever one suits you.

G502/G502 Lightspeed - basically a G402 with more bells and whistles, but heavier.

Corsair M65 Elite - Benefit is that it's 97 grams, and it's side button layout is good IF you don't grip far forward with your thumb. If you do, then it's actually a negative as you may accidentally activate the DPI clutch button on accident.

Honorable mentions:
G-wolves GM602 (also has a wireless variant)

Roccat Nyth - Modular mmo mouse that you can set up to your liking

TT Nemesis - This one's a bit harder to explain, but I'll let you decide whether it seems good or not. It weighs around 120g, so it's one of the heavier ones on this list.

There are two upcoming mice that may interest you.

One is from Dream Machines called the DM5 Blink. It's very similar to a Razer Basilisk, but doesn't have the protruding thumbrest, so it may be more favorable to you.

The other one is the G604, a revamped version of the G602 with Logitech's wireless hero sensor and a general touch up on the overall quality of the mouse. It has 6 side buttons, and is likely to be on the heavier end, but keep an eye out for it if you're interested in that sort of mouse.

Mouse bungee's are amazing, they work perfectly for me and I play much better with it since it reduces the cable drag.

Zowie camade is probably one of the most popular mouse bungee's. I personally use it and the build quality is pretty good,Razer bungee and Hotline games bungee are some other popular ones.

Pretty sure they all work the same.

The Avago 9800 is not a good sensor. You may or may not notice them, but it has serious flaws.

That being said it is an upgrade over what you had. Here are a few suggestions, with better sensors, around that price point if you would like to return it and try something else!

Low: http://amzn.com/B00HEX8TA4 - 3050 Optical Sensor. Entry level but good sensor. $15

Mid: http://amzn.com/B009JZ04BC - 3090 optical sensor. Smaller sized. $35

High: http://amzn.com/B00LZVNWIA - good sensor, great software, great brand. $50

I used to be a G502 palm user at 18.5x9 but took a chance on the small ambidextrous g305 and while at first use it felt a bit odd this mouse has just been fucking incredible for me. I can't get away from it, I have tried to use other ergonomic mice and just cant, they never feel as natural to me. I did switch my grip up to a more claw shape and that made it just as comfortable as ergo.

I also have had it for about 3 months now and it is still at 100% charge...I mean what black magic fuckery did Logitech use on this mouse?

I have since recommended it to friends and they love its shape and weight. If you do go for the g305 I suggest picking up these two items from amazon: AAA converter - Energizer Ultimate Lithium AAA Batteries.

This will save on weight and it doesn't seem to hurt the battery life at all.

The elecom M-ARMA50BK which has a length of 106mm is overpriced on ebay so there's no way to get it for a reasonable price currently but it looks very good for palm grip and it even has a ledge for your ring and pinky finger which some people love.

arma50 Dimensions: L 106.6 x W 72.9 x H 43.3mm

• more info on the ARMA50
  
• ebay link for ARMA50
  
  the smallest ergo that exist and that's wireless is the asus rog strix carry; it has a deathadder like shape
  
  Dimensions: L 101 x W 64 x H 36mm
  
  
• info on the asus rog strix carry
  
• if you want to buy the asus rog strix
  
  the xenics Titan G mini is great for palming since its an ergo based on the ec2 shape but, its dimensions are shrunk down; it's 116mm which is unheard of for an ergo
  
  Dimensions: L 116 x W 64 x H 41mm
  
  
• info on the Titan G mini
  
• ebay link for Titan G mini

Thanks for the detailed response. I read a few more reviews, and they all praised the mouse for roughly the same reasons you mentioned (simplicity but gets the job done). Since I don't buy this kind of stuff often, I usually trust mice with more reviews on Amazon and stuff like that (which is why I was highly considering Deathadder; I like to keep it "safe", so to speak), but I'll definitely highly consider this one.

Since I'm buying from Amazon, if I were to choose the Nixeus Revel, it would be this one?: https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Light-weight/dp/B01HHH74K2

Ok, True, Yea i saw tons of pure rubber ones but they are not it. I'm gonna link some for you to look through :), Hope this helps!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Foam-Sheets-27-x-38-x-1-4-CHARCOAL-GRAY-/132119812051

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Recycled-foam-packing-block-shipping-gray-medium-high-density-5-5x12-thick-1-/302046943784

https://www.casesbysource.com/product/soft-charcoal-ester-foam-sheet-2lb-dens-fspu

https://www.amazon.com/Closed-Sponge-Rubber-Acoustical-Sheet/dp/B00YV43UZS

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/31943210

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/31939564

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/31939655

Some of these seem too small but i think some of these might be it, I think the MScDirect ones seem like they could be close, Thanks for that picture, I'm pretty sure this is the closest

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/31943210

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I tried it and it is really too big for me. If palm on my hand on the mouse, the hump is too high and it makes me feel really inconfortable (my arm muscle's are working hard to hand it, thats bad). While the ZA 12 was too small to palm perfectly (it also gave me a lot of pain, more than the za 11).

I tried ZA-11 and ZA-12 and they are not made for me. The SteelSerie Laser Sensei Raw (images of dimensions : https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/02/uk-videogames/2011/dp/B007N6HS3G/image4._V145389784_.jpg) stayed the better to play long time.

what i can say about the sensei raw is that it is a little too short (my two right figners can't be perfectly rested on the side when handing it hard), and that's their somehow something that make it not the best to wrist movements (although wrist movements are possible), I think because of it's size and shape.

I'll give it a try to the EC1A, who seems to be used by pro fps players. I don't know if it will fit as the hump is higher than the ZA11 but also it's a bit more further on the mouse.

If it's not ok, I guess i'll give a try to the FK1 or FK1+.

I hope I'll be able to find a good mouse and play again! I tried quickly the death adder chroma today, it seems good, althoug again it could be a little bit longer to be able ro make my finger rests perfectly on the side.

Depends what you have a higher priority for, the aesthetics or ergonomics. I too wanted a mouse that matched the aesthetics of my setup. I wanted a blue led lit mouse that matched my keyboard lighting. Yet, I am sitting here with a non-led lit, red cased CM spawn. Its the best mouse I have found for my hand/style. I am a hybrid fingertip grip.

I haven't found another mouse quite this stubby that has all the bells and whistles like LEDs and such.I though I read a rumor about a new revision to the spawn. I would be in for sure if it added some LEDs. It is very short top to bottom. It seems to help me as I am a fingertip grip and lifter while I game. Also it is an optical sensor with not much else inside to weight it down which helps with lifting. I have been spoiled by the ring finger rest. The staggered right side helps both the ring finger and pinky move/lift the mouse.

As far as alternative... if you have big hands the [Corsair m60/65] (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Performance-Gunmetal-CH-9000022-NA/dp/B00ARD5410/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395292598&sr=8-1&keywords=m60) was nice when I had it. It was a little too wide for my hands. I couldn't use the "sniper" button without choking up my thumb to reach.

I have the Logitech G400s and it was is a great mouse! I use a palm grip and it fits perfectly in my hand. Across my knuckles is about 3" and from base of palm to tip of middle finger is about 7 1/8". I use one notch higher than the default DPI and love it. My only complaint is a year later and my right click needs some extra pressure to make it work. Especially when gaming. I noticed when I was trying to use a special ability while playing The Witcher. It works just fine for a single click. But when you need to right click and hold you either have to use a lot of pressure or you have to really hammer down on it and hold. Again this just started for me and I have had the mouse for about a year and that is my only complaint. I personally am looking at upgrading to either the Logitech G502 Proteus Core, Razer Taipan, or the Corsair M65. The only reason I don't run right out and get the Logitech g502 Proteus Core is the $80 price tag. Hope this helps.

Only 1 mouse comes to mind.... the Cooler Master MasterMouse S. The thing is so good for fingertip and ANY claw style including relaxed claw. It's great for 1-2-2 grip style and pinky. Ergo mice aren't always better for pinky. I know EXACTLY how you feel. I also had the same problem. Only mice were comfortable for my pinky are G302 and MasterMouse S.

You can only buy it from Amazon UK. Good news is, global shipping is available and it's really cheap.

Product link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterMouse-Buttons-SGM-2006-KSOA1/dp/B01MSZEB4W/

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EDIT: Totally forgot about the EC2-B. You should also consider it. Very safe and comfortable shape. But beware, the buttons are a bit stiff. I cannot use it without getting finger fatigue for that reason.

Haven't tried though specifically but I had hotline feet on my GPW and while it was better than stock I ended up swapping to tiger arcs instead. Much happier.

You'd probably be better off either going for tiger arcs or hyperglides to be honest.
https://www.amazon.com/Hyperglide-Mouse-Skates-Logitech-GP/dp/B01N7FQLYQ

https://www.itaktech.com/collections/arc/products/tiger-gaming-logitech-g-pro-g102-g203-arc-mouse-feet

It's an older gen mouse but it's still high quality, has a good sensor and has the extra buttons you would need while not limiting you if you decided to jump to an fps like overwatch or something. On amazon you can get a refurbished one for 28$ with a 90 day warranty if you are comfortable with somthing like that.

Just because streamers use something, doesn't mean it will be good for you. I'm sure it's a good mouse, but you might not like it.

However, if you are interested in that kind, the G305 is better if you use a chargable lithium battery like this and any AAA to AA adapter, or an aluminum foil ball. Instead of just a regular AA battery. It's the same thing but wireless, and Logitech wireless performs the same as wired, so you don't have to worry about disconnect or latency.

Some mods you could do are:

• Paracord (from CeeSA or Paraflex Cables): ~€25
  
• Aftermarket feet (Hyperglides, Hotline or Corepadz): ~€10
  
• Grip tape: ~€10
  
  Just some additional info:
  
  
• Prices in Euro for consistency
  
• Paraflex Cables are US only
  
• Most people agree Hyperglides are the best quality, but are more expensive than hotline and Corepadz
  
• Some people also say that Hotline/Corepadz are worse than stock but it seems to depend on the mouse
  
• The most popular grip tape on this subreddit is GT-500 but there would be alternatives
  
• You could put grip tape on the mouse, on the grips or replace the grips. Example 1 Example 2
  
  Personally, I have a Paracord from CeeSA and it's amazing, definitely worth it.

The 520 says its made for claw and the 530 for palm but I have a slight claw grip and I still liked the 530 better. If you do get it though, make sure to get something like this to put on the sides of the mouse: https://www.amazon.com/TALON-998R-Grips-Rubber-Black-7-Inch/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1511975978&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=talon+grip

that's great to hear. i'll wait then. well I was looking on amazon and since it was no longer in stock, the only ones available that were (new) from other sellers were $65-99.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01HHH74K2/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

i saw some on ebay for $55ish dollars but i'd rather buy it directly at a better price.(this is specifically the glossy edition which I think the white looks so cool!)

thanks for the response! i'm really looking forward to trying out the mouse as it looks perfect for me in terms of specs and aesthetics

These are all acceptable reasons (for what it's worth though, I happen to have those pads you speak of in other rooms of my home and they feel completely differently, with more grip) to not like the QcK, I was just responding (a little late I admit) to the statements about its durability.

I'm grabbing one of these because I liked how it felt and I'm a big fan of Corsair, and also it'd just look pretty nice under my keyboard.

Not much of a fan of SteelSeries these days but a few years ago I liked my Sensei RAW. Also (very similar to the Sensei RAW) I find the DM1 FPS to be pretty sweet.

I don't have much experience w/ Mouse Pad. I'm currently using This AUKEY that I bought for $11.99 w/ Coupon Code:AUKEYPM3. Before this I had Corsair M200 and Glorious. The AUKEY is pretty decent for the Price. I think the Glorious is slightly, very slightly smoother.

I held a logitech m 510 yesterday and it felt super comfortable. Can't speak about the sensor though. It's a wireless mouse though so it might not be best, I have an older m 510 and it's held up pretty nicely.

Does this mousepad come in a extended version like this or this? The pad sounds awesome and I would love to buy one if it came in that size.

Hi /r/MouseReview !

I need your suggestion on new mouse for me, here are the details :

• Games : Mostly for work/productivity, Civilization series (V and VI), Divinity Original Sin (EE and 2), Dota 2, Skyrim.
  
• Preferred hand : Right-handed, Ambidextrous if possible
  
• Budget : £30 or less (Manchester, UK), can stretch for a bit if there's no better option below 30.
  
• Hand Size : around 18-19 centimetres
  
• Grip type : Fingertip Grip
  
• Weight Preference : at least weighs around Kinzu V2 Pro, or heavier
  
• DPI Preference : High (I use 3200DPI on Kinzu V2 Pro)
  
• Cable Type : Braided if possible, Cable length don't care
  
• LED Lighting : Any, I don't care about it
  
• Mouse Buttons : 4 (Right & Left click, Mid mouse button/wheel, DPI settings) to 6 (2 extra for browsing navigation), doesn't have to be programmable buttons.
  
• Other details : below
  
  My first gaming mouse was a Steelseries Kinzu V2 Pro. I have no complaints with this mouse, but the wheel scroll is broken and it really hampers my productivity. I would like a mouse that has extra buttons for website navigation. Another Steelseries brand would be preferable since I will be using this mouse with my MSI GL62-6QF Laptop (it has a Steelseries keyboard built in)
  
  Any suggestions are welcome! Thank you! :)
  
  Current Suggestions :
  
  

• Nixeus Revel
  
• DM 1 Pro S
  
  Edit : any comments about TteSports Talon Blu?

Cyber Monday is the best. Plus the G402 is high quality and will do you solid.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LZVNWIA/ref=s9_pdx_hd_bw_bG83uCJ_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=89Y37JQXYFT4CQNHVSFB&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=00f3a54c-453c-5131-af99-25033596ad73&pf_rd_i=14777267011

Best buy has the g502 proteus core for 35 and the proteus spectrum for 39. I got mine last year from them at this price. Excellent mouse, a tad heavy, but I prefer that so. Either way good deal.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-g502-proteus-core-optical-gaming-mouse-black/4642008.p?skuId=4642008

Gun Grip works great and is pretty cheap. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_WhnVBbBFE90CY

If you don’t mind a rougher texture fingerboard / skateboard grip tape is awesome but can tear your hands up over time if you move your hand position a lot.

There is also a foam version for fingerboards “Tech Decks” that Ive been meaning to try. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AW3ZRF8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_RknVBbC6P81AG

You know what I want? I want a normal mouse like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001822-M510-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B003NR57BY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1459008562&sr=8-1&keywords=logitech+wireless+mouse

That's wired, has side buttons, a good sensor, and rubberized plastic. I've been trying to find a good fingertip grip mouse to replace the one in the picture and have been having a helluva time trying to find one. I don't understand why it's like I'm asking for something crazy when all I want is a normal shaped mouse with a decent sensor...

I was going to recommend the Logitech G510s and the G502. But, both do kind of have a spaceship aesthetic feel to them...

So, instead look into the Roccat Isku and for the mouse Zowie FK1, DeathAdder Chroma, Mionix Naos 7000, Mionix Avior 7000, CoolerMaster Alcor, Any of the Roccat Kone Pure Optical/Military, or the Corsair M45.

Many of these mice and keyboards come down to preference. So, pick and choose which ones you like and if you have any questions/concerns please respond and I'm sure that someone will respond to you as soon as possible.

Definitely this one

The bottom is weighted and it makes it way more stable. Wife and I both love it.

Now I suppose I'll have to get another one, but I peeled off my sticker and now I'm not sure what S/N I have. If you're really excited about your G Pros like I am check out [this guy's] (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWY-gjEgnmhJELYuqpncBXg) custom mouse cables which are so supple and flexible, and hyperglide's aftermarket mouse feet.

Build quality wise, its okay. Its made of a rough ABS plastic that feels like sand paper, it feels "gritty."

Sensor wise, all these mice suck. They all use laser sensors which have various issues such as not being able to track small movements and horrible lift off distance. The Naga Trinity has a top optical sensor but the Trinity will set you back around $100.

I would recommend the Havit MMO Mouse https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1526089127&sr=8-3&keywords=Havit+MMO+mouse

or the Corsair Scimitar https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-SCIMITAR-Pro-RGB-Programmable/dp/B01MU3DZ2V/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526089118&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+scimitar

Both have top optical sensors based on the Pixart 3360, a Logitech G502 class sensor.

i have one of these Performance MX mice and the switches inside are failing. i've had it less than 2 years. drag and drop is a nightmare. it drops off randomly.

you don't say your budget or what the combo thing was so you'll need to use a receiver with your new mouse thus using a USB port (unless your old combo was a logitech that uses unifying receiver).

so, if you want a new combo, the Logitech mk710 set is quite good. Not sure what you feel about keyboards but I find this one a bit soft for me.
smaller budget? MK320/330.

if you only want a mouse, get a laser one. it'll track on anything, better than optical.
And i've found the cheaper mice from Logitech work flawlessly for years. something like a 510 would work.

Buy this if you have amazon prime or buy this both have top of the line sensors that will be sufficient for minecraft, if you're looking for comfort, go for the g403, however if you want to save a little bit more money, buy the g203

if you really don't want to go over $35 then definitely take the g302, if you can sped a few more you could go for the g303, which is $40 and has the same shape as the g302 but better sensor. some people also have problems with the g302 "wobbling" because it has no mouse feet on the sides of the mouse
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TKFD51M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484610023&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=logitech+g303&dpPl=1&dpID=314UDpL3BCL&ref=plSrch
you could also look at the logitech g203, also$40 it has a rounder shape than the g302 and is probably a safer choice than the g302 unless you know you are comfortable with the shape.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M26YUKO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484610539&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=logitech+g203&dpPl=1&dpID=319KAiGobEL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01798VS4C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it's on sale too :D
And I also don't like the MM300 design that much, but I don't care at all.
I just care about performance, how will the Glorious perform compared to the MM300 ?
Also, I don't care about budget, I can pay as much as needed.

Corsair m65.

edit: you linked only FPS games, are looking at the corsair k70. The m65 is designed for FPS games, is about $50 or less without rebates, and is built like a tank. I have the m90 which is the first gen MMO version. The aluminum base makes the mouse extremely solid, and it has the greatest scroll wheel I have ever used.

Also the m65 is designed for right-handers, has a similar shape to the deathadder.

I'm a lefty too, and its pretty much only ambidextrous options for us for anything.

Consider the Mionix Avior 7000.

Or, the Hori Edge 101 as well. Amazon links here.

http://www.amazon.com/EDGE-101-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00ZUNOX9Q

http://www.amazon.com/MIONIX-Multi-Color-Ambidextrous-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00HGKOD9G

Seriously, there isn't much good options for lefties, and I personally have Avior 7000 and Hori Edge 101, and its good as it gets for us.

Or well, you may be aware of the Razer deathadder left handed, but that hasn't been updated and doesn't have more buttons like the Ambi mouses I listed above.

Amazon USA link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QM9KL5M

Amazon links can always be shortened to this format. Very handy when linking to friends in chat applications, for example :)

So far I have owned two of them (ones LMB broke off). They are good mice for the price but they have a kind of odd small shape, and i haven't noticed anything bad about the sensor and it tracks nearly as good as my model o. I've had some trouble with the recent software just not working at all, so I've just downgraded to a different version of ICUE to fix that . But the G302 seems like a better deal and just looks better imo.

Try the CM Storm Xornet II. Solid sensor, the firmware is a bit of a mess, but with a bit of tweaking it can work pretty damn well, and I think it could be a good size and shape for you.

Right now I'm using the GSR-SE (the new blue gsr) with a g203 and I am loving it!

Edit: Forgot to mention I'm using Hyperglides
(and yes I leave the middle circle mouse skate off).

No comment on any of the 3 as I haven't owned any of them, and can find very little information on them. In the same price range the G102/G203 depending on region is a solid buy, and for $10 more than the A90 you can get yourself into a G305 which is the wireless brother of the G102/G203/GPro. You can also look into the 403 wired if you would rather have an ergo mouse.

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=logitech+g+mouse&qid=1557878272&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=logitech+g+mouse&qid=1557878272&s=gateway&sr=8-6

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Both of the above are tried and true price to performance powerhouses.

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and the G305 below is likely one of the top 3 recommended mice on this sub reddit.

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https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-LIGHTSPEED-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B07CMS5Q6P/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=logitech+g+mouse&qid=1557878403&s=gateway&sr=8-5

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If budget is the main issue buy the 102/203 it wont let you down and is priced similar or lower to the ones you mentioned, if it isn't then I would look at better options than the 3 you mentioned and would still keep the little logitech in mind.

> Logitech M510 wireless mouse that used to be flawless

The Logitech M510 is a cheap desk mouse, which was never meant to last more than a year of use.

If you really like it, I suggest a replacement - $19 amazon

But before buying,,, check interference with the Dongle. Even a monitor in the way could cause disruption. Try a different dongle. Turn off all other 2.4Ghz & bluetooth devices. Clean the lense.

Looking for a very fast cloth mousepad to go with my G403 wireless and hotline skates. I posted on MousepadReview, but didn't get a lot of answers outside of the Glorious line, which I've owned before but haven't been impressed with.

My current pad is the Swift-RX XL, which was decent but feels a bit sluggish, and too slow for me. I've also owned a Glorious XL pad before, which felt average as well, and also a Corsair MM100.

According to Reddit, my top options for a speed pad are : Corsair MM300, HyperX Fury S Pro, Mad Catz G.L.I.D.E.TE XL, or one of many hard pads. Preferably I wouldn't like a hard pad because I rather have a smooth fast pad than a rough pad that will wear on the mousefeet.

Budget is under 30 USD.

Never Sharkoon. The Logitech is good, though.

G402 seems to be just a couple dollars over $35, which would be even better:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Hyperion-Gaming-Fusion-910-004069/dp/B00LZVNWIA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1484600942&sr=8-7&keywords=logitech+g100

Can also get G303 (better version of the G302) for $40ish:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1484601088&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g303

wow it sold out quickly its back to the original price
Logitech g402 is at 35 right now
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Hyperion-Gaming-Fusion-910-004069/dp/B00LZVNWIA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1479851627&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+G

I used the Logitech M510 for a couple years, it performed very well for its price and the battery lasts forever. Solid, nice shape to it. Looking at it now, it's #1 in computer mice on Amazon.

$25, can't recommend more.

Newer, cheaper, and (arguably) better version. for $54.99. Or find the old one as a used model for like $45.

If you want a good and cheap mouse.

I recommend this Logitech G203

https://www.amazon.com/G203-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511759267&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g+203

Another good mouse cheap but ergonomic is this but maybe BIG for you. Is a large mouse

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1511759224&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g403

So my recommendations G203, Mx anywhere 2s, G403 is the big is not a problem or MAYBE cougar minos x5

the redragon mouse has really rough texture and an OFFICE sensor.

Hand size?

Check out Rocket Jump Ninja's reviews

I personally recommend the Nixeus Revel.https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Light-weight/dp/B01HHH74K2

Thx for your information, but I am more interested in an review of the Nemesis Switch. The mice you mentioned have way to less extra keys. I am not looking for FPS mice.

Best all-around mouse for $35: SteelSeries Sensei RAW

For claw grip: CM Storm Xornet 2 ($30)

Many claw-grippers love the Cooler Master Xornet II. I don't know about the sensor, though.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Optical-Lighting-SGM-2002-KLON1/dp/B017M4FT34/

Ec2a going for 57. Also could give thr mastermouse s a try https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterMouse-SGM-2006-KSOA1-Ambidextrous/dp/B01MSZEB4W. And yes like other people said that mouse is to large for you.

you can get them in the uk amazon site , i ordered one with global priority and it states i will get it may 31 , costed me around 49$ USD total shipped to the united states

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01MSZEB4W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

WAS showing 24.99 on Amazon, now 29.99. It has routinely been marked all the way down to 19.99 a few times in the last few months. Ebay has it $23 for refurb, that's not a good deal imho. I'd just go with Amazon - good return policies if it comes to that.

https://www.amazon.com/G203-Prodigy-RGB-Wired-Gaming/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520552995&sr=8-1&keywords=Logitech+G203

> I unusually leverage the thickness of the back of the mouse with my pinky and thumbs for precise slight adjustments

I read your other comment, would you say that your grip is a fingertip grip? If so, I actually use the same grip and I personally found ergo mice really uncomfortable. I had a rival 300, and I realized a while after that I wanted the complete opposite in mouse. So I got the gpro, a small light ambi mouse that's perfect for fingertip. The g203 is practically the same thing and stupid cheap for how good it is.

The Xornet 2 is $20 on amazon right now. https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Optical-Lighting-SGM-2002-KLON1/dp/B017M4FT34

A lot of people find the finger rest comfortable especially those with smaller to medium size hands. Don't know how well it works with Palm grip though, it's designed for claw.

Oh, and... If you're still here, granted I do take the original G Pro, should I take additional mouse feets to replace the logitech ones ? Is this good ? https://www.amazon.com/Hyperglide-Mouse-Skates-Logitech-GP/dp/B01N7FQLYQ

Hey so I was wondering if the Hyperglides GP Model were compatible with the G Pro Wireless? I have a bunch left over from when I hyperglided another mouse and I don't really wanna spend the extra money to get new ones.

Edit: And also I have another question now, how many of those things would I need? I currently only have 4 but it seems like there are a lot of places to put mouse feet on in this mouse

You would be better off going with something like a Nixeus Revel, that reddragon isn't great.

The white one is on sale for $40 right now.

I actually have an Abyssus V2 that I took down to 68g by removing the 10g weight that is screwed on inside and replacing the rubber side grips (which weigh another 3-4g) with this material, which grips better and is far lighter.

Definitely worth doing.

They're GT5000 grip tape

They're self adhesive tape which I can grip my mouse better. People use it on guns/cellphones.

https://i.imgur.com/6iPAnPr.jpg

Recently people use Lizard Skin hockey grip tape.

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This is the tape I used. It was the only one I found that shipped to germany =) https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-Strips-phones-cameras-knives/dp/B00C7WXTJS

I think I'm going to try avoid the big name brands this time (Razer, Logitech and Steelseries) although I think I could make do with the G403.

I'm going to experiment a bit with a different shape and I like the looks of these mice as they come with the new 3360 switch, which would you recommend from them or would you know that are similar?

Niexeus Revel

Mionix Avior

For the DA I like to use 2 layers of gun grip rather than lizard skins.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C7WXTJS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These grips are more robust and will not move or need to be replaced any time soon.

https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-Strips-phones-cameras-knives/dp/B00C7WXTJS

Here you go :)

Thats not a hand size or a grip style (I literally gave you links to what they are), but on that tight of a budget you kind of just take what you can get anyways. I'll recommend a rival 110 or a G203

Get some of this to use on it man. It would look much better than the wood grain

For smaller hands I usually recommend the CM Storm Xornet ii or Genius Maurus.

I have used the same CM Storm Spawn (same shape as xornet ii) for around 5 years and the shape to me is irreplaceable as I have a similar grip type to yours though not quite as aggressive on the claw.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Optical-Lighting-SGM-2002-KLON1/dp/B017M4FT34/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1467376968&sr=1-1&keywords=xornet+ii

I would say yes.

My hands are the same size as yours, my main mouse used to be a G203 which has a very similar shape to the G305.

Use AAA Lithium Batter With this to reduce the weight of the mouse.

This looks like the us version

https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-35-4%C3%9715-75%C3%970-15in-Spill-Resistant-Special-Textured-Anti-Fray/dp/B00QM9KL5M

Thanks, I was unaware as I have just recently seen those. This is what I usually use, https://www.amazon.com/TALON-998R-Grips-Rubber-Black-7-Inch/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=talon+grips&qid=1565646549&s=gateway&sr=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/TALON-998R-Grips-Rubber-Black-7-Inch/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510877714&sr=8-1&keywords=rubber+talon+grip

get rubber for a softer feel or granulate for something a little more rough (you can sand it out with 120g sandpaper if it's too rough, just make sure you do this before you put it on).

With this tape vs the stock plastic and this gun tape, I don't have to grip the mouse nearly as hard and it isn't slippery at all. I highly recommend it.

The GT-5000 stuff is okay but... well... yeah, it's just okay. Kinda helps I guess but it's still kind of slippery and the texture is weird. This may just be personal preference though.

Energizer Lithium AAA and AAA to AA Converter. You can find cheaper prices than the links provided, these are just the first listings on Amazon.

its legit lol, where i bought mine from. I did basically what you're stating. I put on a paracord on the G Pro's PCB and put it into a g203 white shell.

also amazon has them, but it says it's back ordered? So im not sure. Could contact the seller

https://www.amazon.com/Hyperglide-Mouse-Skates-Logitech-GP/dp/B01N7FQLYQ/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1519146187&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=g303+hyperglide

The diablo 3 mouse was a version of the steelseries sensei. A regular steelseries sensei will be basically identical other than the different coating. A steelseries sensei RAW is again identical (with a more similar coating this time) however the dpi can only be set to multiples of 90. Both of those mice are very very similar to the diablo 3 mouse.

http://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-phones-cameras-knives-tools/dp/B00C7WXTJS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464121113&sr=8-1&keywords=gun+tape

Xornet.

https://www.amazon.ca/CAMADE-Bungee-Management-Device-Sporting/dp/B01CKP4030/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=mouse+bungee&qid=1566621888&s=gateway&sr=8-6

Zowie Camade

TALON 998R Grips Sheet (Rubber-Black, 5 x 7-Inch) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_j218Bb89PSZHC

TALON Grips Material Sheet, 5 x 7-Inch -- Rubber Black

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FLQO5IU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

TALON 998R Grips Sheet (Rubber-Black, 5 x 7-Inch)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FLQO5IU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_DhKSeXWYHgHXk

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Mouse-Windows/dp/B01HHH74K2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494295783&sr=8-1&keywords=3360+mouse what would be your opinion on the nixeus revel? seeing you post that reminded me that this thing even existed. Have you had any experience with it?

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Prime-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00OHJY7C2/ref=sr_1_1?s=prime-day&psr=PDAY&ie=UTF8&qid=1499737011&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming+mouse

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G203-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Black-910-004842/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_3?s=prime-day&psr=PDAY&ie=UTF8&qid=1499737011&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+mouse

the stiff cable can be fixed with either de-braiding or replacing with a different cable (could try the g203/g102 cable or ordering a paracord cable from CeeSA)
CeeSA's paracord cable info + order forms
g pro cable replacement/installation video
g203 for cable extraction

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01M26YUKO/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1497152589&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=logitech+gpro&dpPl=1&dpID=319KAiGobEL&ref=plSrch

mouse that is good

I got my CoolerMaster Mastermouse S from amazon UK I got my DM1 FPS from Maxgaming, but you are able to get one from dreammachines website.

https://www.amazon.com/Hyperglide-Mouse-Skates-Logitech-GP/dp/B01N7FQLYQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538926417&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=g+pro+hyperglide&psc=1

Hyperglides

It's literally their website.

https://www.amazon.com/Hyperglide-Mouse-Skates-Logitech-GP/dp/B01N7FQLYQ/ref=sr_1_5?m=A3GO5VFCNOM5I7&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1519146006&sr=1-5&refinements=p_4%3AHyperglide

Here

You could also use a AAA battery with this. Thats personally what I use and the weight distribution feels very close to the G-pro.

Hmm not sure what the Divna Camade might be but this is the classic Zowie Camade (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CKP4030)

I bought these for the tape https://www.amazon.com/TALON-Grips-Material-Sheet-7-Inch/dp/B01FLQO5IU?keywords=mouse+grip+tape&qid=1540671229&sr=8-8&ref=sr_1_8
Talon grips, material is very rubbery and doesnt peel away easily when heated with a blow dryer.

Personally I feel cyborg looking mice are neither comfortable nor functional.

Thinking of getting this one or this one.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-004796-Prodigy-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01KUAMCV4/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1503050482&sr=8-7&keywords=logitech+mouse+wired

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-004842-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1503050482&sr=8-5&keywords=logitech+mouse+wired

edit: actually after looking at the videos of this mouse, its click looks very death-adder flimsy so I might not get this after all.

I ordered mine from amazon.com, still taking a couple of days to get here... there was no two day shipping option. Cant wait to try these :

https://www.amazon.com/GT-5000-Strips-phones-cameras-knives/dp/B00C7WXTJS

I did some independent searching of similar threads. I found the Steelseries Rival 100. MSRP $40, but I can get it for $25 on amazon in an ugly color(I don't mind it though). Have you heard anything about the RIval? I'm looking into the revel now.

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-REVEL-Gaming-Mouse-Light-weight/dp/B01HHH74K2/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1482151731&sr=1-1&keywords=revel+mouse

Is that the "Revel" you are talking about? It seems hard to find, only one mouse came up on Amazon... just making sure this is it before I look it up for a while.

Here and here.
I live in Canada and unfortunatly our currency isnt doing too well right now, and computer stuff is usually priced higher than it is across the border. So, in Canadian dollars, it's 40 and 100, sadly.

22 bucks... you showed 20bucks mouses there is no reason you cant.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Prodigy-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B01M26YUKO/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=g102&qid=1557676707&s=gateway&sr=8-1

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Logitech-G102-Gaming-Wired-Mouse-Optical-Game-Support-windows-10-8-7/123733735578?hash=item1ccf1af89a:g:K0gAAOSwXDVcsZDT

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Logitech-G102-Gaming-Wired-Mouse-Optical-Wired-Game-Mouse-Support-Desktop-Laptop-Support-windows-10/32893163557.html

> over 100 dollars and 50 dollars

Did you mean 25 dollars? Where did you see it for 100 dollars, or even 50 dollars? Cause that place is guaranteed to be a scam. And they're the same mouse named differently in different regions, so I'm kinda confused you found two separate extremely high prices for it. G102/G203 is like the budget king of mice.