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This is a good example of how states easily take advantage of a lot of people's intuition. The sentiment that the linked user is expressing is a variation of one of the most widespread beliefs in the United States (and likely elsewhere) that is taught to us at an early age and reinforced during schooling, all without even a small challenge to the underlying assumption.

That belief is: the government created safety nets to make up for a lack of a voluntary one, and that in general if the government does something -- regardless of the result -- it is because there is a need for it that is unaddressed by private citizens. That sounds intuitive to most people, it just makes sense given what we are taught at an early age. The problem is that there is no evidence for this belief.

Everything from social security, minimum wage, food stamps, unemployment insurance, etc., was proposed and implemented for political purposes, not out of a response to empirical data and research that demonstrated a real problem. While there were certainly good intentions behind many of those, and probably a real desire to help some people, the political campaigns were ultimately planned and run with the goal of capturing a larger segment of the electorate, to make millions loyal to one party or candidate or the other. And it worked beautifully. The minimum wage was and still is widely sold as a necessary regulation to help the poor and prevent people for working for next to nothing, but (economic problems aside) it was explicitly created to protect white workers and favor certain politically important unions. Wages among all workers were already rising steadily. Social security was and is sold as a way to "prevent old people from dying in the street" which most people take as fact. In reality, there is no evidence that this was an issue at the time, and a huge motivating factor behind social security was ensuring the voting support of the elderly, who back then as now are much more likely to vote.

Unfortunately, the only study using comparative empirical data on the subject was done by Frederic Almy in 1912 and can be found as one of the essays in this book. What he found was that in cities with a strong government safety net, charitable contributions were lower (sometimes in huge amounts) than the average, meanwhile, cities with relatively little or no safety net had much higher charitable contributions which rose to meet the demand. People will help other people if the right environment is fostered, and having a state force others into this pseudo-charity is neither the most efficient solution nor the most humane.

>Your being friends with a relatively high-profile engineer really does not make your plans more coherent.

Oh my holy titty fucking christ. Continually harping on the "you have not explained this to my satisfaction" without specific questions is getting old. I am honestly not sure about what part of my plan is not coherent. Honestly. the inability to accurately describe what is inside my mind to others is my single greatest failing as a human being and I readily admit that.

1. Incorporate and prepare for resource allocation.
   
2. Begin online media campaign to raise awareness and accept resources.
   3.Build first facility to demonstrate feasibility of tech and iron out design complications yet to be realized. (this includes the Hughes-001 a scout drone of my design) Which will serve a variety of functions including safety and scientific purposes.
   
3. Introduce long range drone designs and test feasibility at the now SLE-0001.
   
4. Optimize agriculture production. (I plan to fly in Ron finley and Carleen Madigan and compensate them for their time) Train the first OFH agriculture specialists and prepare them for exponential growth.
   
5. Begin deployment of decentralized manufacturing grid. Supporters will receive 3D printers in their home that they can use for free but we can also remotely command to print parts we need. This is crucially essential to building the sheer number of drone chassis that will be needed within a very short amount of time.
   
6. Strategically build out SLE-0002 SLE-0003 SLE-0004 etc... There is a reason why I have been going around for the past 2 years securing hundreds of acres of land. I plan to fucking use it.
   
7. Connect SLE's using the long range drones in a metropolitan area. (this may take several years to do the first time)
   
8. Begin Operation POLR (exponential growth through the path of least resistance)
   
9. Begin A.I. program.
   
   
   Do you want me to give you my business plan word for word so you steal it? No thanks.
   
   > Can you honestly look at what you've typed here about the deployment of the Macedonian army and not understand why someone would think you are delusional?
   
   Not if that person is smart enough to understand that historical reference and the significance of the acheivment. Unheard of at the time.
   
   > If your plans really made sense you would be able to convey the gist of them in a way that similarly made sense. Yet you haven't... or were you going to claim again that I'm too stupid to understand it?
   
   Help me to help you Let me just walk you through every single facet of my plan so that you can run to Oprah and declare it your idea. If you have specific questions just ask them and I will try to help you.
   
   >So here you are claiming and claiming again that you and whoever are working on something that will revolutionize everything! while simultaneously shitting all over anyone skeptical of your claims and anything that contradicts you. Please take another moment to think critically about why people have responded to you the way they have.
   
   I am not pitching perpetual motion. Just an overall societal vision of using soon to be common technologies to disrupt industries and establish a new parcel delivery system that generates excessive energy surplus as a by product using less than 10,000 supporters out of 7 billion potential supporters. Culminating in a connected one world automated drone grid. This is why I am waiting for you to have an aha! eureka! moment.
   
   The reason why you believe I am insulting your intelligence is because I have explained this plan countless times and (I would estimate) less than 5% of people get it. And these are really smart people I talk to.
   So I have developed a callousness to the nay sayers.
   I don't have time to explain to you the way I see the world. You are probably not capable of ever getting it. And that is ok.
   
   You would think a human being that have been alive for the rise of cell phones would be more receptive to the possibility of this.
   
   >Perhaps you should combine this thought:
   
   Oh are you a therapist now?
   
   

Okay, sure thing:

> He felt that those relationships in capitalism were not good for people and that we can and should do better

This was a myth at the time, based on a few extreme examples of kids working and bad working conditions in factories, BUT, even these terrible working conditions were better than the alternative a generation before, when kids had to start working on farms as early as they were able to. And when kids worked on family farms, they didn't earn anything. At least in the factories they earned money and got early job experience. Not ideal, but better than the alternative at the time.

The capitalist relationships at the time were absolutely better for people, because industrialization meant cooler products for less work. The oft-quoted "fact" that industrialists of the time were "Robber Barons" is an absolute myth.

> ....and he tried to figure out how we might get to alternative, better economic systems.

So Marx is a try-hard failure. The better economic system is free-market, as seen by places like Hong Kong (not ideal, but closer to a free-market than Venezuela). If he wanted a better voluntary business system, he should've started one. And if the market thought it was better, then more and more companies would create their organizational structure off of his research. But since it's not ideal, and doesn't really work when you allow idiots to vote, you'll only see direct-democracy worker-cooperatives in small-local businesses, like bookstores and cafe's. Larger companies that are more close to what Marx's "vision" might entail (depending on who you read, because Marx liked to talk in non-specific terms and frequently appropriated or created new words/definitions) like Mondragon Corporation, are still non worker-managed even though the company is worker-owned. And I'm totally okay with whatever arrangements people do, as long as it's voluntary. But people like this professor seem to want government intervention in the marketplace in order to force companies to align with his interpretations of Marxist theory.

What's next?

>Very, very few of them do.

Ford Foundation is a deep state front. It created modern feminism and promoted and backed the free market movement, which was kicked off in the chilian dictatorship and then spread to all our countries.

>Or you've been deluded into thinking that there's some massive desire for libertarianism among corporations, which there isn't.


Why wouldn't corporations want to do away with work place safety regulations, pollution limitations, labour laws and anything else that stands in the way of profits. Do they not want anti trust laws gone - like the ones the banks did away with that lead to the melt down in 2008?

Average men have been targeted and used to support tea party, right libertarianism and so on based on the lie that its grass roots and will bring them freedom.

Thats the opposite of the truth, well researched book about it here.

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Money-History-Billionaires-Radical/dp/0385535597

There's a great book called Stalin and the Soviet Science Wars by Ethan Pollock. Consider this: Communism was regarded as science to the communists. Any dissenting voices, any foreign ideas, were labeled bourgeois, cosmopolitan or a nefarious plot by Western ideologues. Lenin considered Mach's work ignorant while his own physics understanding was vastly limited. Stalin supported Lysenko before Mendel because they were friends and because Mendel wasn't Russian. Quantum Physics was even regarded as a Jewish conspiracy until Stalin wanted the bomb too. I look at the pettiness of government-backed science and sense misuse.

Another example would be in the development of American Nuclear policy where petty bureau squabbling, corrupted intelligence gathering and defense contractors pushed the science of MAD to the boundaries of absurdity. Scientists as eminent as Neumann, Oppenheimer, Feynman and Einstein were used as pawns, both willingly and indirectly. A good example can be found in Navy buildup of Polaris missiles against a growth in ICBMs and Air Command. A good book I would recommend on this is The Wizards of Armageddon by Fred Kaplan. At this point, science ceases to become a method of communication, and begins to misdirect for the highest agency. Intel becomes muddy, ceteris paribum flies out the window, and much of what is revered as logic becomes little more than faith.

Just be skeptical until you can't anymore. Reagan said 'Trust, but verify' and I believe that is a worthwhile compromise before hearing another TED talk or lecture and standing resolute as if the facts are in.

I don't think it's as simple as that, but reforming welfare laws to what they were pre-LBJ would be a good start. Charles Murrary's Losing Ground is a good introduction into what disincentives became entrenched during the "Great Society."

Yes, railroads were privately funded by people like Vanderbilt. The men who built America is a great show that talks about this among other things.

Yes, it is a plain and simple fact. The vast majority of funding for research comes from the government. Call me when a private company builds something like the LHC.

Good book on the topic: http://www.amazon.com/Entrepreneurial-State-Debunking-Private-Economics/dp/0857282522

The US unorganized militia is codified as any able bodied male age seventeen to forty something: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311

So... there’s that. However, papers don’t grant rights in my book.

Beyond that, no, most terrorism has not been carried out by the right wing. Maybe in recent decades or something like that, but overall, it’s not even close: https://www.amazon.com/Days-Rage-Underground-Forgotten-Revolutionary/dp/0143107976/ref=nodl_

I’m willing to learn something, but you gotta provide some data. I’m willing to learn, but you should know that ultimately I don’t care, so I’m not too attached to my thoughts here, but even if what you say is true, it changes nothing about my opinions otherwise.

> Well start off by adopting Lost Cause view of history

... you might want to point me to the part of the Libertarian Party literature or say Reason, where it says anything about what view of Civil War History you should take. In fact, the only Libertarian historian I know of Dr Carl Paulus (who has worked for Rand Paul) considers slaveholders a special business interest who effectively had the govt of the South in their pocket, and used fear of racial conflict to get non-slaveholders to support their cause:

http://www.amazon.com/Slaveholding-Crisis-Insurrection-Conflicting-Dimensions/dp/0807164356/ref=sr_1

Recommended Reading(As v3, I'll try to add a book before each checklist now): The Ultimate Resource by Julian Simon

^(I assume that's the book you were referring to by "people are the ultimate source of capital")

[✅] American People will Die!

[✅] Doesn't know how guns purchasing power works(Only looks at nominal wages decreasing from immigration and assumes PP does as well, ignoring price decreases also from immigration and thus possible increases in real wages)

[✅] Not Real Socialism/Communism Collectivism™(THE GLORIOUS NATION™ is still a collective)

[✅] Anyone who disagrees is a shill for Berkley and CEOs

[✅] The Greater Nationalist Good™

[ ] Hoodie's Law

[ ] Esoteric's Law

[✅] Sargon's Law(Says OP is hurting Americans with more immigrants, hurts America with r/badeconomics)

[ ] I used to be a libertarian

[✅] Lovejoy's Law

[✅] Ban things and people I don’t like(The immigrants/outsourcing)

[✅] Who Will Build the Roads Protect the Disabled?

[ ] We need TO DO SOMETHING!

[✅] Breaking windows will boost GDP

[ ] Fake Nuance

[ ] Sunk Cost Fallacy

[✅✅✅] Fearmongering(DEY TERK ER JERBS!)

→→[ ] The Koch Brothers Conspiracy

→→[ ] Someone of Group X did something, therefore Group X is EVUL!

[ ] Distinction without a Difference

[✅] The God that Failed

[ ] Just-in-Case Fallacy

[ ] Nirvana Fallacy

[ ] But that’s not PC!

[ ] RESPECT DA LAUH!

[✅] Move to Somalia

[ ] Spotlight Fallacy

[ ] r/AsABlackMan Fallacy

[✅] Questionable Cause(The immigrants & outsourcers did this!)

The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History is a pretty good primer for non-statist history.

I also recommend practicing how to suture when it comes to first aid. Whether you’re backpacking for days/weeks/months or just having that feeling that shit is going to hit the fan (weather or political), it’s a good skill to know.

https://www.amazon.com/Suture-Practice-Kit-Generation-Professionals/dp/B07BQHMRVM/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?hvadid=73873595584986&hvbmt=be&hvdev=m&hvqmt=e&keywords=practice+suture&qid=1563836923&s=gateway&sr=8-4

I’ve used a kit like this before during school.

I remember reading The Opium Wars in college.

British atrocities made me think of it, but ultimately, I just want to plug the book because I actually enjoyed reading it for my History class.

The source article for this whole discussion has some nice sources. I think the original study, and the response they made to criticism is a good start.

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1324002727/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=gs2&linkId=db49e4d67f8bcc75b6753ce0958333da&creativeASIN=1324002727&tag=slate01-21&creative=9325

https://www.aei.org/economics/not-much-what-macroeconomic-data-say-about-the-impact-of-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act/

http://gabriel-zucman.eu/files/PSZ2019.pdf

It's relevance is that it educates you about the prehistory of humanity, the neolithic revolution and the beginning of civilization where class society and private property first appear. To understand what Marxism is you must understand the basics first. I would also recommend you the following books if you want to understand the philosophical basis of Marxism, dialectical materialism which is essential:

Quantum Social Science by Emmanuel Haven, Andrei Khrennikov

The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
by Thomas S. Kuhn

Ubiquity: Why Catastrophes Happen by Mark Buchanan

Non of these authors are Marxists as far as I know but they are following in the footsteps of Marx and Engels, who developed the logic of dialectical materialism out of philosophical inquiry into the natural world.

https://www.amazon.com/Techniques-Incident-Handling-Information-Assurance/dp/1284031713/

I looked up the author on twitter, his bio reads:
>Cybersecurity author, speaker, TV personality, instructor but always a proud soldier first.

https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Robber-Barons-Business-America/dp/0963020315/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493003036&sr=8-1&keywords=The+myth+of+the+robber+barons