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I had the same issue with our 5.1 soundbar and the wireless 8" sub. It isn't bad at all, but I have several subs lying around and wanted dual subs, so I modified the oem wireless sub to take an additional subwoofer. Dual subs is ALWAYS a desirable setup for HT, so I'd recommend this over replacing the speaker driver. It's really not much more money and you're guaranteed MUCH better end performance. Here's my build:

Items I used:
Dayton Audio Sub-1200

Scosche speaker wire to RCA converter

External Push Connector

I took the woofer out of the oem sub and soldered on an additional pair of wires onto the driver. I drilled a small hole in the sub box and ran these wires to the outside of the box, soldered them onto the external push connector. Secured the push connector on the box and then connected the Schoche adapter, standard RCA cable from the adapter to the Dayton sub. Voila, dual subs. My oem sub is crossed over at 100Hz and I crossed the Dayton at 50Hz for some serious LFE. Testing shows this sub is tuned to about 29Hz and is good down to 20Hz. Substitute any sub you want, but this one is amazing for the $ and I used it instead of my 8" MartinLogan sub because it was just that much better.

Yes, this will void your warranty and probably is beyond the ability of a novice. But it's actually not tough at all and you can expand ANY wireless sub soundbar system with dual-sub theater sound. It is truly night and day difference, totally worth it. Now we have a 5.2 HT system with low profile soundbar, dual subs and real surround speakers. Speaking of which, getting those wireless surround speakers for your bar would be a huge upgrade if you don't already have them. The best faux processed single source (on the bar) surround can't compare to a multi-speaker surround system.

Here are some thoughts for you.

1. I like the soundbar format for the elderly. Volume up, volume down and off is all you need and that is good. So I get where you're going.
   
2. 4 HDMI inputs is just crazy talk you're looking at an AVR not a soundbar. A soundbar is an optical input or HDMI passthrough and kicks out the sound. If you're looking at switching all those devices (how do you have 4?) then you'll want an AVR.
   
3. FM receiver yeah you're not going to get that in a soundbar. They again, are designed to just put out sound from the TV. If you're looking for FM then you're looking for an AVR.
   
   So AVR is it. Which one well depends on the budget but I like Yamaha and Sony for the simple setups. A basic AVR is all you need.
   
   Now for speakers. How much usually determines this but since you haven't set a price we don't have that as a guide. How many is a good question. 2 or 3 is what we are talking about. I would so no sub as they just don't need that low end. I find the extra bass just muddies everything up.
   
   

• 2 speakers - Cheaper (can be), more simple and you don't need any kind of surround mode to be activated. Keep that joker in stereo and let it play.
  
• 3 speakers - Can be more expensive and you'll have to find a set with a matching center (I like matching the center to the mains get over it). You'll also need to keep it in a surround mode that may or may not sound good with the radio or music. You do get the benefit of having the dialog come from the center and it can be boosted.
  
  Without a budget it's going to be hard to come up with a solution. However, here is what I would look at.
  
  
• AVR - Yamaha RX-V385 $280 or Sony STRDH590 $235 - entry level AVR's with FM tuner and HDMI inputs that you want. Either one will have plenty of everything and be simple to operate.
  
• Speakers - Polk S15 $160 or Boston A25 $150 - Basic mid sized bookshelf speakers. I would go with a pair to start and see if they need a center. If they are good with the stereo pair you're good and don't have to mess with a surround mode. However, each has a matching center.
  
• Speaker Stands $40 - allows you to put the speakers to the correct height and move them out from the TV.
  
• Banana plugs and wire $35 - Just cleans up the install of the speakers.

Thanks, that’s good to know! My other concern was how long the Monoprice one would be stable with the TV sitting in the middle and no leg there for support... I do like that it would match my rear speaker stands I got last week (Monoprice, as well).

I actually ran across this last night and may just get it. I like that it has a leg in the center as well. I’m just not able to find any info on the max supported weight, other than “put your heaviest on it”. Lol

https://www.amazon.com/Large-Monitor-Stand-Computer-Screens/dp/B07H8N774Q?th=1

Thoughts?

I happened to have this sub I paid $180 for a long time ago, and it actually works well with the Ambeo so far. I never actually tried the Ambeo without it yet. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B014GSEQ2O

When I demoed it in the store, I thought the bass was fairly strong on its own.

I'm curious to what you think it sounds like compared to the playbar.

FYI if you need to do a true reboot of the Ambeo, and don't want to pull the plug, there is a restart option in the Google app. Not the Sennheiser app strangely enough. I had to do it a couple of times while setting things up and it was acting funny.

I see the Yamaha YAS-207BL on Amazon for $144... should I pull the trigger now? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072J7PTFB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Edit: Glad I've waited... it seems to be steadily dropping and at $141 now. Going to check until it bounces up and then buy I think.

Edit 2: Now $139. Here's hoping it gets to $130 or even $120!

Edit 3: Bought at $138.80 earlier today and now is shown back at $299 with 12 remaining. I'm blessed

What I don't understand about the hype for the Nakamichi soundbar is that every model is essentially the same bar with more subwoofer or surround speakers. This model is the same as this model. It's the same product. The latter has an extra subwoofer and more surrounds (for over twice as much), but the main product - the soundbar is the very same. The system seem to be repackaged in different ways; now it has Atmos. Is it the magic bar that can just do anything?

It seems to me the most important part of any soundsystem would be the left, center, and right main speakers. That's where I really what I want to hear. That is where the main sound is coming from. Sure thumping bass is good, but it's not where the details are.

> I guess I'm open up a 5.1 soundbar system that has wireless rears (as in connected to the sub)

Here's one in your price range from Vizio.

Here's that same model in a refurb for $170 and free returns on Amazon, so you can try it in your place to see if you like it or not.

Try this - Yamaha YAS-108 Sound Bar with Built-in Subwoofers & Bluetooth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D73HMVR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JNHrDbF2BFPJY

I just bought a used one for 150-160... Works pretty nicely with my new 55" TCL 4k HDR TV

I just got this one a few weeks ago, and it's been great!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CF793HQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yes the Yamaha 1080 has an input jack for a subwoofer.

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Here is a link for it on amazon so you can see the specs

https://www.amazon.com/ATS-1080-Channel-Bluetooth-Soundbar-Subwoofers/dp/B07HY9MTCF

It available on Amazon @ Nakamichi Shockwafe Ultra 9.2.4Ch 1000W Soundbar System with Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision, Dual 10" Subs (Wireless) & Four 2-Way Rear Speakers https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HHZ94BW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_-c.SDbX15WKB7

Probably the Nakamichi Shockwafe


https://www.amazon.com/Nakamichi-Shockwafe-Ultra-9-2Ch-DTS/dp/B07HHZ94BW

I use this but I also had to attach it to a remote plug. I needed to power cycle it (completely powered down by unplugging it from the power) in order for it to pick a new source from the N950.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CF793HQ

Does anyone have this or can comment on it?

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https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B072J7PTFB?pf_rd_p=183f5289-9dc0-416f-942e-e8f213ef368b&pf_rd_r=CFB3SZFB90K9E05PREQG&th=1

I got this one. It's hangs over the sides a little but the weight is evenly distributed so I have no problems with it.

Monoprice Large Multimedia Desktop Stand - Black Glass (30.8 x 11in) Stand & Riser, Laptop Stand, Desktop TV Stand, Dual Monitors w/Height Adjustable Legs - Workstream Collection https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M2ZGGB2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_aTyBDbR6Q2EC8

Someone else found this one below that would probably work well, too.

https://www.amazon.com/Large-Monitor-Stand-Computer-Screens/dp/B07H8N774Q?th=1