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u/steakhause · 80 pointsr/TheRedPill

“Practical Female Psychology: For the Practical Man” by Joseph South, David Clare and Franco is a book I am currently reading after seeing it mentioned in the comments of a recent post on The Rational Male.

Put simply, it’s the best book on red pill theory I have ever read. Right up there with Rollo’s books. It was published in 2008, so was written by contemporaries of our esteemed elders Pook, Roissy, Roosh, Rollo and others.

It is so good, and yet, in one year of red pill awareness, I had never seen it mentioned or suggested anywhere. So I thought it’d deserve its own post, rather than me casually mentioning it in a comment next time someone asks for book suggestions.

I so strongly encourage you to get it and read it that I’ll allow myself to reprint here a particularly good chapter to motivate you. Hopefully it's ok to do so and will bring some traffic to the authors' amazon page. Before I’d do so, I’d provide a quick lesson learned:

  • Frequent other red pill websites than this sub, and particularly the comments sections of blogs. There are some gems out there.

    PS: Feel free to debate and oppose the ideas but remember the following are not my writings – just reprinting.


    Chapter 11 Stages of Manipulation

    > When it comes to marriage, one man is as good as the next. And even the least accomodating is less trouble than a mother.

  • Marquise de Merteuil in "Les Liaisons Dangereuses," by Choderlos De Laclos.

    We believe that manipulation is an instinctual behavior deeply rooted within female biology. Manipulation is also a learned behavior, due to one's need for survival. From a biological point of view there is not too much of a difference between biologically-rooted and learned behavior. In fact, from the point of view of both modern neurobiology and evolutionary psychology, behaviors repeated and learned over time become deeply rooted in the neurological patterns within the brain, to the point where the behavior becomes largely unconscious. As individuals are prone to choose behaviors which support survival, manipulation has certainly been selected as a desirable survival skill.

    Manipulation can be defined as the attempt to influence another person's mind to achieve a certain outcome. Manipulation is very often seen as a negative thing. We, however, are not judgmental about manipulation, and actually consider it a positive feature, which has been designed to keep life continuing on this planet.

    In order to best manage relationships with women, the Modern Man should understand that there are various stages of manipulation that a woman will go through during the course of a relationship with a man.

    On the biological level, the female of our species is programmed to:

  1. Elicit a strong sexual attraction in one or more strong males.

  2. Feel a strong sexual attraction for such males.

  3. Become impregnated by her choice of male.

  4. Have a male to provide materially for both her and her infant child.

  5. Afterwards, she will subconsciously tend to operate in such a way so as to have her sexual attraction for that male decrease.

  6. Wash, rinse, repeat: she will tend to have more sexual intercourse and more children with other strong males.

    We call this process betaization, where the strong, alpha male is rendered beta — which means "secondary" or "subservient" — within the relationship, over a period of time. Quite often, this process occurs gradually and almost imperceptibly to both parties.

    Manipulation is widely used by women to achieve:

  • Safety and comfort for her and her children, with their survival being the primary purpose.

  • To thereby influence the man's mind in such a way that he will feel compelled to protect her and her children, especially before pregnancy, during the pregnancy and throughout the children's early developmental years.

    Female manipulation can be either creative or destructive, depending on the desired outcome. From the point of view of the man, female manipulation can be considered "good" when it supports life and the man's interests and "bad" when it destroys life and/or damages the man's interests.

    Succinctly, the more manipulation is used by a woman, the more it becomes natural and unconscious to her. It is like learning to play a musical instrument: at first it is difficult and one needs to pay conscious attention to each note being played, Then, as mastery is gradually achieved, manipulation becomes more and more unconscious.

    Behaviors are slow to develop and also slow to be unlearned. In the modem woman of the industrialized countries, the way instincts are expressed has changed slightly with time, due to less-demanding survival conditions. However, the influence of the female's primal instincts on her behavior remains evident.

    It is important for you to learn to recognize manipulation. In fact — as we discussed in Chapter 4 "Female Basic Conflict" — for a woman's sexuality to be satisfied, it is important that her manipulation attempts against her man not be too effective. You must learn to observe female behavior and give the right responses, with the goal of making her happy on the emotional level, as opposed to responding to manipulation attempts on a logical level.

    Learning to respond appropriately requires knowing the various stages of female manipulation.

    Stages of Female Manipulation

    A woman's attempt to own you mentally will follow certain incremental stages, which predictably occur with mathematical precision. We will now discuss each of the following stages in detail:

  • Testing the Male

  • Seeking Communication

  • Putting him to Work

  • Evolutionary Selfishness

  • Self-Determination

    Depending on the woman's self-esteem, there are big differences in the way these stages will play themselves out. If a woman has high self-esteem (HSE), she will test you and manipulate you in a totally different way than a woman who has low self-esteem (LSE).

    Testing the Male

    "Let me be a little bitch to him.” A woman knows on the instinctual level — and also on the rational level — that a man can impregnate a large number of women without too many consequences. In our modem age of mandatory child support, this is not always true in practical terms, but biologically it remains the case that the female has a much higher risk and burden when it comes to pregnancy than the man does.

    A woman also knows that a weak male will not be able to protect her or her children in any way. Imagine as a man how your thoughts about survival would be different if every time you made love to a woman you faced the possibility of carrying a baby in your belly for the next nine months, followed by the primary responsibility of taking care of the baby for many years to come. Imagine how you would feel if you knew that your partner could leave you at any time and impregnate other women and/or leave for war or for hunting. Get the picture? You would become much more selective in your choices of who to mate with. From this biological reality stems the deep need that a woman has to test the male for his physical and leadership qualities. In our modern society, the need to test for physical qualities and financial stability has become less important than the need for qualities such as leadership, intellectual capacity, and strength of personality; but that would be quickly reversed in the case of war.

    One thing is for sure: a woman in this stage will test the male for his skill of being a hunter. This will happen whether you are skilled in hunting animals in the grassy field or company shares in the business field; you can be sure that at the first stage of manipulation a woman will test you.

    A woman will always test a male who she is sexually attracted to. For a psychologically healthy woman, survival and sexual desire must always harmonize with each other. A woman who tests men only for survival benefits — such as a man's ability to provide — is denying her sexuality. A woman who tests men only for their sexual appeal, is either planning to live her life without men, or is being self-destructive.

    Seeking Communication

    "Open up to me, please."

    Once a woman has tested the male, and is relatively sure that he is strong enough to serve her purposes, her concern begins to revolve around making the man serve her exclusively. Many men who are relatively strong and pass the tests of the first stage, fail to understand the meaning of this second stage. This stage is extremely difficult for the average man to detect. It is instinctually and often unconsciously masked by the woman as a purely innocent attempt to "communicate" with the male.

    It is a feature of the feminine psyche to appreciate communication above all else, but from an evolutionary point of view what the female of our species is really doing at this stage is using language to befuddle her partner, which will hopefully cause him to serve her and her purposes.

    This stage is extremely important to the success or failure of couple relationships. Couple therapy fails so frequently because it tends to disregard the real, evolutionary meaning of this stage. A very common pitfall for couples is when the woman starts to feel that the man is displaying an inability or unwillingness to "communicate properly" with the woman. Modern couples therapy almost invariably places the blame for this supposed lack of communication squarely on the man's shoulders.

    In the first stage, the woman has screened out the weaker males; the man was specifically chosen by the woman for a relationship. In this second stage, the woman acts as if she is seeking deeper communication with the man. A strong man will start to sense that an attempt is being made to weaken him, and he will then usually react with certain predictable behavior patterns. He may get angry or he may withdraw.

u/ColdIceZero · 3 pointsr/TheRedPill

Much of my research has been focused on men who grew up under an emotionally abusive, narcissistic female parent ("Nparent"). Boys with high levels of intelligence who grow up under these conditions develop defense mechanisms to avoid the irrational, and often unpredictable, wrath of their Nparent.

One of these defense mechanisms is a highly developed sense of empathy, or in other words "the ability to understand and share the feelings of others." Children from abusive homes often develop higher-than-normal levels of awareness for other people's emotions as a survival response; because while growing up, a child's well-being was determined by the emotional state of the Nparent, whose mood and behavior could radically and unpredictably shift without warning or provocation. So, these children learn how to observe their Nparent and be aware of their every-changing emotional state at all times.

There are a couple consequences of this. First, many of these children learn how to interact with other people in a disarming way. These sort of children do very well in professional sales environments because they have an advanced ability to "read" people.

Which leads me to a second consequence: primarily being in a state of reaction to other people's actions. If life were a game of chess, you would be black, always reacting to white's first move. Again, as a defense mechanism, children in abusive homes learn strategies to disarm or satisfy their Nparent. Since the Nparent is always on the offensive and the child is always on defense, everything the child is trained to do is counter, repel, or otherwise disarm the actions of others. And these children can become very well adept at developing strategies to anticipate the needs of others.

So while the bulk of these boys' training is as a reaction to the wants and needs of others, these boys are not taught how to be in charge, how to identify and exert their own wants and needs in a relationship in a healthy way. In every relationship, there is a leader and there is a follower. Your relationship training growing up has always been to be reactionary, to be a damn good follower because your survival depended on it.

Now, you are dating, and women are looking for a leader in the relationship. The problem is that you don't have any training on how to be a leader in relationships. Like a fish in water, your whole world growing up has been focused on being the best survivor you can be, and that has meant being the best listener, the best reactor, the best follower you can be because you never knew what it meant to be in control.

Shifting gears into being on the opposite side of that fence, by being the person whose Will is exerted instead of being the person upon whom someone else's Will is exerted, is difficult. It's like riding a bike for the first time: no matter how many books you read on riding a bike, you're still going to fall the first few times. Becoming comfortable as a leader in a relationship is learning experience. It takes time to explore what that means for you and what that means to the women who follow you.

Diving deeper, if you grew up in this sort of environment, you know what it means to be taken advantage of; you've seen what it means for a person to manipulate some unsuspecting individual into fulfilling the manipulator's desires. Like a used-car salesman, you may view the whole experience of "using your magic" to get other people to do what you want as coercive, as something negative. You feel bad because maybe you feel like you're taking advantage of these women; and knowing how badly it sucks to be taken advantage of, you feel uncomfortable escalating things because of it. You haven't necessarily been so accommodating to others because you wanted to, you've done it as a means of survival, because you've had to in order to avoid punishment. You can't fathom or haven't considered the reality that there are people out there who genuinely desire to support others, not out of a sense of avoiding pain but because they truly feel a desire to support the fulfillment of someone else's Will.

If any of this applies to you, then here's my advice: first, recognize that you've been playing the part of the follower in relationships. Your approach has been reactionary, to anticipate the needs of others in order to satisfy those needs, as you feel a good partner should. The problem with this approach is that it requires the other person to have definitive needs. If they don't have needs that can be defined, then you won't know what to do; and nothing you do will satisfy them.

This might explain some issues you've had with LTRs in the past. There's the ongoing joke that if you ask a woman "what would you like to have for dinner?," her response is ____. You already know the stereotypical response (it's "I don't know", if you didn't already guess). While publicly men will lament about female indecisiveness, TRP explains that women aren't interested in making the decision about dinner because they've already made the only decision that matters: they chose you. Now, it's your job to decide what's for dinner; it's your responsibility to figure out what you both are doing tonight; she depends on you to take the lead. And since she's waiting for you to exert your Will, she often doesn't have definitive wants to satisfy. This may very well be the reason why you kept expecting insight from previous LTRs on what you should be doing for them, all the while they were becoming frustrated with you because you were not exhibiting the very same indicators that you sought from her.

Second, you need to learn how to be a leader in relationships, learn how to be in control. There are strong, positive leaders and there are shitty, negative leaders. Realize that exerting your Will in a relationship is not inherently bad thing. There are ways to do it positively. Women seek this strong leadership in relationships with a man. Just like you presently react to someone else to satisfy their needs, women desire to do that exact thing for you. So if you're not exerting your Will in a relationship, then your relationship with her will invariably fall apart.

So get over feeling bad about exerting your Will. Realize that a huge percentage of women desire to support the Will of a strong man. This desire is so ingrained that a surprising quantity of women admit to sexually fantasizing about being raped. This psychology tells us that even under what we might consider to be the most severe of circumstances (being raped), a situation that you would overwhelmingly consider to be "bad," many women still generally sexually fantasize about being "taken" and satisfying a man's Will by his force. By being a man who exerts his Will, you are quite actually giving women what they truly seek: a man who knows what he wants and ACTS on it. So in your chess game with women, be the white piece and make the first move; let them react to you, your desires, your Will. They want you to take charge, and you're hurting yourself and disappointing them when you don't.

Final thoughts, pick up copies of these two books: (1) "No More Mr Nice Guy" by Dr. Robert Glover, and (2) "Models" by Mark Manson. First read No More Mr Nice Guy.

u/QuietlyLearning · 4 pointsr/TheRedPill

There are many who exhibit the traits that you consider "alpha"; leadership, firm character, integrity (maintaining their frame). The issue is that their goals may be terrible for others. Many incarcerated murderers are attractive to women, but are not "great men".

Jack Donovan touches on the dual concept of "being a good man" and "good at being a man". To summarise in a sentence: the first is creating a good society with men while the second is surviving as a man in a tribe. The Way of Men is about this concept; read the book as my one sentence summary does not do the subject any justice.

/u/RedSunBlue has a good description. Traits that are associated with "alpha" are those that demonstrate good health and genetics (women want to reproduce with you); "beta" traits are those that make men good providers (women want a LTR with you).

Alpha traits are said to be best because they create value; beta traits give value.

u/Clint_Redwood · 47 pointsr/TheRedPill

First thing you have to do is learn all the lingo and jargon. Then you can learn the principles and strategies.

Investopedia is a fantastic place to get learn the lingo. Just search a word you don't understand and there will be a short article explaining it.

Then you can go two ways, learn pragmatic practices like Fundamental Investing vs Analytical Investing, Day Trading vs swing trading, stocks vs options trading, forex trading, etc.

Or you can study the grand scheme and mentality you need to become wealthy. From my experience you first need to have the mentality of a wealthy person before you can become wealthy. Like how TRP teaching you to be a certain way before you actually are. A good analogy is, "You don't meet any 80 year old people that are poor and great with their money". Just doesn't happen, your wealth is directly correlated to your behavior and outlook. Mentality and frivolous spending dictate your wealth, not how much your job pays you or your hourly wage. I know people making 100k a year that are fucking broke and will be broke the rest of their lives just because they don't care to learn how to use money.

I'd start with studying the most successful investors and businessmen ever. Learning how powerful compound investing is will probably be the most important thing. This is a great video over Warren buffett and his overarching mentality to investing. Study everything you can on him and how he "Thinks". He's mentality is what you need to learn and emulate.

The Intellegent Investor is probably the best primer book you'll ever read for investing. Its an extension to Buffetts mentality. The technicals will be over your head as a novice but pay attention to the mentality like buffett. It's written by a guy that entered the stock market in 1915 and survived through 5 recessions and is considered one of the best investing books ever written. It's one of the first books Warren Buffett ever read, he talks about it too in that video I linked. It's been updated every five years since it was written in the 70's. I'd suggest learning as much about Benjamin Graham, the author of this book, as you do Warren Buffett. Cause he's who Buffett learned from.

Now, once you get the mentality and lingo down you can focus on actual strategies and pragmatics. Financial Education youtube channel is a good place to learn fundemental investing. he's a bit goofy but he's solid on his delivery and takes a more modern approach to the buffett style of investing.

I'd recommend learning the basics of fundamental investing first. Learn how to read balance sheets, cash flow statements, income reports. Study market caps of companies, P/E Ratios, are they under or over valued, etc.

Once you have the basics of fundamental down then you can learn analytical. This is where you can make high returns on your investments but it is greater risk unless you learn how to manage them. Tons of people lose their ass in analytical because they don't know what they are doing. Educate yourself and don't be one of them. youtube the difference between day trade vs swing trade, momentum vs breakout trading, learn the difference between options and stocks, support and resistance lines, studies, indicators & signals.

That should be a good start.

edit Also Download the Robinhood app, it's the first free trading app ever. So you can literally start with $10 if you want and fuck around. the beauty of trading and investing is, it's not about the amount you start with. It's your % return per day, per month, per year. There are people day trading with 300%+ return in a month. They can take $50 and turn it into $15 or 5k and turn it into 15k. your return percent is the magic number, not how much you start with.

u/User-31f64a4e · 4 pointsr/TheRedPill

Many books on Buddhism have that; google can also provide a lot. There are a lot of techniques, and you may find an affinity/aptitude for one in particular.

To be honest, it's not so much technique you need to learn. More important is What are the obstacles and How do you overcome them? A good text(s) should address this.

As a few key points to put out there:

  • Have compassion for your self. Failure to meditate 'perfectly' is not a failure; when you realize this is happening, that is actually a miniature triumph of awareness.
  • Not too tight and not too loose. If you are too rigid or to lax, you won't hit the sweet spot for training your mind. The irony here is that in my experience, the lax think they are being too tight and the uptight think they are being too loose!
  • Posture really matters, but it needs to be natural and not overly forced. Yoga can be a help, especially if your back isn't flexible or very straight.
  • Consistency is more important than duration. Five minutes a day is much better than an hour, once in a blue moon!
  • Use some sort of timer, so you won't be looking at your watch or a clock. Do whatever you are doing, until it beeps.
  • You may experience groovy states, what the experts call nyams. These are not the point or purpose, but neither do you need to recoil from them. They are just thoughts or experiences that arise, like anything else. Enjoy if they are enjoyable, but don't get attached.
  • If you aren't able to sit cross legged on the floor or on a cushion, don't! Use a chair, or lie down.
  • Walking meditation is half way between sitting meditation and daily life. It's worth looking in to this as well. I am not a big fan of the style where you sort of micromanage the walk in a slow, exaggerated way; I prefer to walk normally and notice the sensations of movement. But again, whichever works for you.

    Know that there is mindfullness-awareness meditation, insight meditation (learn about your internal mental processes), contemplations (ponder a phrase such as 'Life is sudden and ends without warning; this body will be a corpse'), tonglen (sending and receiving, to develop compassion), body scans, and many other practices. Most all of them start with sitting meditation focused on some object (normally the breath, as outlined in the Anapanasati Sutta)

    I am not a Buddhist, but I have read a lot of their stuff. If you can sort of skim the tradition without accepting any claims that can't be proven by experience or empiricism, you should be good to go!
    For more secular texts, Buddhism Without Beliefs by Stephen Batchelor, and Coming to Our Senses by Jon Kabatt Zinn. (Don't get WhereEver You Go, There You Are by him as it is too much about theraputic uses of meditation, rather than how to do it per se.) I haven't read the Sam Harris stuff yet, but that might be good as well.
u/dsfargeg · 12 pointsr/TheRedPill

Narcissism and Machiavellianism never got me anywhere worthwhile.

I've been reading this book recently, I found it helps with women of course but basic interactions with anyone as well.

It's a great blueprint, it's more about finding and expanding your true Alpha self than using arcane techniques to pass off as an Alpha.

Don't be only invested in you. Be driven, invested in yourself but make a bit of room for someone else. Don't brag but enjoy sharing yourself with someone who deserves it.

Be interested in them but don't let that influence you. Don't be arrogant, respect their opinions but don't ever change who you are for them.

I used to manipulate others, now I'd rather be upfront. "You're trying to get me to do x or y, for your sole benefit? I won't stand for that, goodbye."

Don't dwell and plot in the shadows, expose yourself boldly and stand your ground. You'll save time and effort. And you'll feel relieved and comforted that you've stayed true to yourself and your values.

u/0xdada · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

Interesting thing about bikes, they get your adrenaline up, but also get cortisol up as well.

Burning through traffic at 100+mph is awesome, but guys who just get off their bikes tend to have their eyes bulging out of their heads. Great for energy, but the extra good vibes don't really come until you've come down. Someone advised me against getting a panigale because it would roast my nads, and there are motorcycle related ED issues with some models.

If you are going to ride, get involved with the new wave custom scene by getting a cheap machine and building it out. The physical knowledge will be the real transformative aspect. If you are intellectual, read "Shopclass as Soulcraft," and check out sites like BikeExif to get the idea.

Also, mandatory viewing includes:

u/_whistler · 10 pointsr/TheRedPill

You have it made, little brother. You're beginning this journey at an optimal age. Your life, starting now, will be an amazing climb into all manhood has to offer the bold. Congratulations.

Now. Here are the instructions I would've given 17-year-old me.


The Way of Men by Jack Donovan.

The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida.

Everything by Robert Greene.

The works of Rudyard Kipling, Jack London, and Mark Twain. Plus Jules Verne if you enjoy science fiction. Read as many other classical authors as you want, there's a very good reason their work has stuck with us.

Psychology texts. Philosophy texts. Study how to think, what it means to think, and how the way people think has changed throughout history.

Speaking of, history texts. Learn from the triumphs and failures of men before you.


Study nutrition & exercise science. I recommend looking into the Paleo nutrition philosophy, but make up your own mind based on your own research. In fact, making up your own mind based on your own research should probably be the number one thing you focus on. Never follow the lead of the herd.

Learn how to build habits. This will help to increase your productivity throughout your life. Find your ideal routine, and stick with it until it's natural; then feel free to deviate occasionally. Practice mindfulness at all times.

Learn to fight. Martial arts, boxing, wrestling - study some form of self-defense, preferably more than one. When you can handle yourself in a fight, you've taken one step further along the path of truly understanding yourself.

Study people. Talk to people. Befriend people. Piss people off when you have cause. Ultimately, lead people.

Pursue your passions. Explore what makes you tick. Know your strengths, and excel at them.

Above all else, remember:

Think with your mind. Act from your balls.

u/RP_Magnus · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

To be honest it almost sounds like you are trying to psychologically project the TRP version of a Beta onto him so you can feel better about yourself. Once people develop these broad ideologies they become a hammer and everything begins to look like a nail. fact is you have a few examples of "possible beta" behavior in a very incomplete picture. By your assessment that he is an 8 on the attractiveness scale I think you are viewing him as better looking than yourself. Is there some jealousy involved?

The best thing you can do in not concern yourself with theoretical aspects of the redpill on relationships you only have a small window into. Go fucking workout, eat well, and talk to women you want to fuck, like you already fucked them. The best aspect on TRP, in my opinion, is the self improvement focus.

Get cut, fit and healthy with paleo:

Get ripped without a gym with progressive calisthenics:

Get a hobby and find your passion/motivation!

Good luck, I've done these two things myself with excellent results.

u/CaptainFalconer · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

To be honest, it's not that useful for picking up chicks directly.

It's more about showing "social proof", that you got "a life" outside of her. That you can be a leader of men, by hosting gaming parties.

Building out your circle of friends, such that your girlfriend isn't your sole source of external validation.

As Mark Manson mentioned in his book, if you were too use a hobby to pick up chicks, it's best to pick one that is female dominated. Like Yoga, Salsa Dancing, or a Cooking class etc

It's a very good book if you're going for the "be true to yourself" route of Game.

But at least this allows me to get my gaming fix, and that it's positive to mention that it's a big part of your life. Rather than something to be buried and hidden away until later in the relationship.

And to be honest, I'd like to date a girl who is at least casually interested in gaming.

u/-Anteros- · 3 pointsr/TheRedPill

> MGTOW Doesn't Get The Respect It Deserves

Now why is that? We know that its not respectable for a man to quit, to run away from that which he finds appealing (all healthy young men find women appealing). Let alone walking away from a challenge, which women today are.

Lets set a definition. From our side bar glossary:

  • Men Going Their Own Way; the growing contingent of the male population who are saying “Fuck It All” to the Mating Dance.

    MGTOW are committing an act of self-betrayal. Especially the younger ones. They don't seem to realize an important fact: Eventually we all go MGTOW. Its called "Getting old".

    MGTOW just gives a feeling of validation to a generation of young men wasting their days on videogames and porn, completely hoodwinked into thinking that they are wasting nothing by doing so. There is no book, no art, no website that will teach a young man more than he would learn by going out and socializing. Particularly with women he is interested in.

    Yes, dating sucks. Yes, it has never been this hard. No, young men should not give up. They should change strategies and improve their socializing skill while they have the energy and availability to do so. Throwing their opportunity in the trash is self-betrayal even if they don't realize the mistake they are making.

    Even worse, by accepting the validation that MGTOW provides, they are taking on an identity that other people have made for them.

    > backlash from women because it is a direct threat to their sexual strategy

    Absolutely not. Read the sidebar. They will happily move on to the available men, particularly the top 20%.

    > Even those that are in happy relationships seem to understand why MGTOW makes sense and can come to a rational agreement and support the freedom that MGTOW gives men.

    Running away is not freedom. Freedom when one is able to do something one wants to do. This is granted via the right perspective, which is for a man to put himself first. MGTOW cannot lay claim to this perspective or any other self-improvement despite its attempts to redefine itself.

    > However it is not meant to be a lifetime commitment as it directly challenges our biological need to procreate and reproduce.

    This is somewhat correct but for the wrong reasons. The challenge from MGTOW is not to our biology but to our freedom, which is (indirectly) what MGTOW will do to a young man as he ages.

    From the MGTOW subreddit sidebar definition:

    "We are men going our own way by forging our own identities and paths to self-defined success; cutting through collective ideas of what a man is."

    > forging our own identities

    Admirable try. Identity is created by harsh experiences and reactions from others, as undesirable as that may be.
    Also, interpersonal identity is not as self defined as one would hope

    > paths to self-defined success

    Here is the problem: If one does not know what a successful life is or its potential, how would one know what success is or can be? I ask rhetorically because its clear that younger men do not personally know their potential . They have no business writing off the things they aspire to, this is essentially why MGTOW gets a bad rap, as it should.

    The men who experience high levels of success do everything they can to continue it and increase it. They do not check out because of the complaints that MGTOW espouse.

    > cutting through collective ideas of what a man is.

    Thanks to feminists and gender identity politics "A man" is a murky concept that everyone believes they have a valid opinion on. Young men are understandably unclear about it.

    Here is a part of one of my definitions:
    A man changes his environment to his will, as best he can.

    Here is a good book on the matter

    In conclusion, game (Socializing) is a skill and if every MGTOW built up that skill instead of rationalizing away his retreat there would be no such thing as MGTOW. I have empathy for these boys but they are making the wrong choice. We only live once.
u/jb_trp · 6 pointsr/TheRedPill

This. Yes, this guy needs a lot of work on his inner and outer man. I’d like to piggyback on your comment with my advice as well.

  • Go full monk mode for a while. Maybe several months. Learn to take care of yourself. Eat clean, drink less, work out, read, meditate, etc. You need to learn to approve yourself and not seek the approval of others. This will only happen if you learn to take care of yourself. You can’t approve of yourself if you’re 80 lbs overweight. It won’t happen. But 80 lbs is doable, so lift and cardio. After you’ve gotten in decent shape, buy better clothes and groom yourself accordingly.
  • Do you have strong relationships with other men? Find some. Do you have hobbies and passions that you love? Find some. Maybe it’ll be MMA. Maybe rock climbing or backpacking. Your confidence will grow and you’ll learn to enjoy life and yourself a lot more.
  • Read TRP. Especially read any post that gets over 100 upvotes. As the community has grown, there have been more posts that really aren’t solid advice, so watch out. But you need to internalize TRP principles. Understanding SMV, abundance mentality, “nexting”, etc. will help your dating life immensely. A widow with an adopted child has a very low SMV and you dodged a bullet.
  • Read “No More Mr. Nice Guy.” All your texting and asking about plans reminds me of my old self (cringe). You were putting too much into things and trying to do things to seek her approval. Of course she lost interest. As a recovering Nice Guy myself, I can relate.
  • Don’t post on TRP for a while. Just read and listen. You’ll go through the phases… Anger, etc. Feel free to comment when it is beneficial. After a while you’ll get what I mean.

    Good luck, brother. I’m sure there is more advice, but I’m short on time. Anything else anyone would like to add?
u/benjman25 · 4 pointsr/TheRedPill

Great list! I have read all the above and totally agree that their value is worthwhile to anyone seeking to improve their life -- regardless of financial status, relationships, profession, etc. A couple others that I've found useful along the road:

6. The Six Pillars of Self Esteem by N. Branden. During the reawakening stage and after a particularly painful breakup, I found this book helpful. Learning the concept of "alone-ness" versus "loneliness" continues to drive many motivations.

7. Games People Play by Eric Berne. Want to understand why your plate/gf/wife went batshit insane over the stupidest thing, and how to counteract it in the future? Read this book. Want to understand why your coworker was making those strange comments to your boss? Read this book - a must for anyone wanting to learn more about game theory and its application to everyday life. (Next on my list is The Art of Strategy ).

8. Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl. In many ways this is an antithesis to Freudian thought -- whereas Freud argued man is happy when seeking and obtaining pleasure, Frankl postulates that finding meaning and understanding is what makes us happy. In the context of TRP theory, meditating on, if not fully understanding, these concepts is absolutely necessary.

9. Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion by Robert Cialdini. The seminal work on the concept and application of persuasion. From negotiations to dating/relationships to job performance, I would rank this book at the top of many lists.

A few other authors/books I've seen mentioned elsewhere that are worth checking out: anything by Kurt Vonnegut, The Art of War by Sun Tzu (which goes hand in hand with The Prince for a great East/West study), and Rollo Tomassi. I've also found some of Oscar Wilde's writing to be both amusing and insightful.

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u/rpscrote · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

Making less than the woman is not fatal but it would require immovable frame. Making less than the woman is generally indicative of a greater trend though, which I assume is why this rule of thumb holds true in most cases. If you can know that making more money truly doesn't put her above you because X, Y and Z then you have a chance. OP here needs to make sure he's got X, Y, and Z that he can point to for his inner frame to put him into prize position. OP does not currently have the frame necessary to pull it off, and I agree this will lead to divorce if he does not change.

OP: you need to be able to sit down, list the reasons you are better, more desirable, smarter, etc. than your wife and you need to believe them all. Then you need to take action, every single day, that is congruent with you being that high quality of a person whether she sees it or not.

OP: Lift. Stop making excuses. Not being fat naturally is not an excuse. You'll just end up being a skinny fat, unimpressive looking AFC. Bulk up and get big + muscular, but not fat. It will take time and it will be difficult. That's the point. Eat right. Get at least your bodyweight in grams of protein every day, or even more. There is no way she will not notice once you start filling out and leaning out. Read and practice this: Purchase this book to start lifting correctly:

Lifting regularly and doing it effectively is the single most important thing you can do right now (after maybe talking to an attorney for the worst case scenario before its too late)

u/always-be-closing · 94 pointsr/TheRedPill

>And people say there is no point of a MRM?

There might be, to you.

I'm just one person, and my job description isn't "Trying to push back against the tides of degeneracy to save the West from itself"

The State and Academia and Corporate interests have what they want out of feminism and the sexual revolution.

Why shouldn't I have what I want?

Don't be so invested in the government and in society; the government doesn't love you. Society only loves what you can give.

Look at how governments and society treat homeless men who cannot offer anyone anything, and you'll see what "you" are worth.


Just enjoy your life as much as you can, and put your effort into building things that help you enjoy it even further.

Meaning, fairness, equality, righteousness, etc.

This is all pretty high level stuff that I don't think I understand; but I understand enjoyment and accomplishment and happiness. I can understand empathy, but don't let it get in the way of putting yourself first - - because no one else is going to be putting you first, I assure you.

u/adam-l · 67 pointsr/TheRedPill

Thank you /u/redpillschool, for the review and the stickie.

It is truly an honor to get acknowledged by someone who's made such catalytic impact on the modern state of the War of the Sexes.

The book blog is, where you can check out some more excerpts, reader comments, and the contents.

There is no print version yet - but since you deem it useful for getting guys unplugged, I'll be working on it.

It has taken me three years to research and write the book - and this is in addition to being actively involved in (gender and other) politics for two decades. It is highly consolidated, and should give anyone a clear overview, as well as a deep understanding of the gender dynamics. Nonetheless, I've put a very low price tag because I want many men to read this - for the good of themselves, their fellow-men, their children, and society as a whole. If you guys fell it worthy, you can contribute by writing a review (even if it's only a couple of lines) on Amazon.

u/TheStoicCrane · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

At 17, I wish I knew what I do know when I was at you're age kid. At 17 you have a retardedly high degree of potential for building muscle that when you're my age @27 you'll look like a carved stone statue. If you are serious about lifting and becoming strong & only if you're serious ask your parents to buy the Three books for you below for Christmas ot buy them youself if you have a job:

Starting Strength by Mark Ripptoe

Strength Training Anatomy Workout II by Frederic Delavier

Practical Programming for Strength Programming by Mark Ripptoe

Max your newbie gains using book 1. Learn to bodybuild with book 2. Learn to get beastly strong with book 3. I pretty much just handed you the keys to a shredded body on a silver platter. It's up to you do put in the work.

u/nophoney · 6 pointsr/TheRedPill

Daniel Rose - The Sex God Method


The first technique to manhandle your girl is called the door
slam. When your girl is standing with her back towards a
door, grab her and slam her back into it. Press yourself
against her and start making out with her aggressively. This
can also work with a wall, but works much better with a
door. A door will have a some give to it, and the force of the
blow will be distributed across her back. You can slam her
fairly hard without causing her too much pain. In addition, a
door will make a loud noise when you slam her into it,
adding to the exciting Element of Dominance. A wall will
cause her more pain and will not make as much noise, but
can do in a pinch.

The second is ripping her clothes off. Literally. This works best
with her panties. When she’s particularly turned on and you
notice she’s wearing old panties, put your hand inside them
and twist them around your hand to make the ripping easier.
Then, anchor her down to the bed with one hand, and pull
HARD to rip her panties off with the other. Be sure you put
some strength into it, as it will take more force to rip them
off than you think. Also, pull to the side so that the force of
the rip goes into her hip, not her sensitive anal and vaginal
areas. Like the door slam, this creates the impression of
Dominance without excessive pain.

Another way to establish Dominance is by pulling her hair.
To do this, grab her hair as close to the roots as possible and
pull her head wherever you want. This works well when
you’re behind her, sucking on her neck. Hold her by the hair
while you do this and she’ll love it. This also works well
when you’re making her look at you while you’re fucking her
(a great way to increase Emotion, as discussed in the next
section). Holding her by the hair to force her to look at you
packs a powerful one-two punch of Dominance and Emotion.
Finally, spanking your girl is always a great way of
manhandling her. If you two start play-fighting with each
other, wrestle her so that she is face down beneath you and
pull her pants down. Then, throw her over your knee and
spank her naked ass. Spank her HARD – this area of the body
has a lot of muscle and fat cushioning, and can take
considerable punishment before it hurts too much. If you do
it right, the pain won’t be excessive, but it will be very loud
and dramatic. Combine spanking with dirty talk to make it
even more powerful. Tell her “You’re a bad little girl, and
bad little girls have to get punished” as you spank her. If she’s
more comfortable with you, kick the dirty talk up a notch.
Say something like “you’re a dirty little slut, you’ve been
thinking about getting fucked all day. Look at how wet your
pussy is…you need to be punished for being such a whore.”
Spank her a few times, then take the rest of her clothes off
and fuck her hard and deep.

You can also spank her when you’re already fucking her. The
more aroused she is, the more effective spanking is. This is
because as she gets more turned on, spanking isn’t a threat to
her Immersion, so she can fully enjoy the increased
Dominance that it provides. Spank her while you’re having
sex with her on top of you, or in any position where her ass
is exposed. A favorite of many girls is to be spanked while
you are fucking them doggy style.

u/[deleted] · 3 pointsr/TheRedPill

I would suggest a very interesting book about this. It's called Shop class as soul craft by Matthew B. Crawford :

The book was written by a PhD in philosophy who left his university to open a motorcycle shop. He says the challenges of blue collar jobs are way more rewarding than working in thoughts all day long. The book was great and well written, definitely red pill.

u/OnTheGoBro · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

Getting triggered doesn't enhance your argument it just makes you seem childish.

> Why do you keep comparing social skills to athleticism? You really think running a marathon is similar in any way to talking to people?

Implying that social skills is just talking to people is a false equivalence.

  • PUA
  • No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover
  • How To Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie
  • The Book Of Pook by Pook
  • r seduction
  • r redpill
  • Real Social Dynamics

    None of these things would exist if social interaction only involved "talking to people".

    > Ok then, you CAN TALK TO PEOPLE. This isn't a marathon. It's talking to people. That's it

    This is just gibberish because you're triggered.

    > Worrying about results and if you are doing it right is lack of confidence, LACK OF BELIEF THAT YOU CAN DO SOMETHING

    Worrying about results doesn't mean you lack confidence. It's normal for a person of even the most basic intellect to fuss about his performance when he does something important to himself. Whether it's building a pyramid of cards, making a music album or painting the Sistine Chapel ceiling, you'll obviously examine and re-examine any move that you make because you want to do it right.
u/RedSunBlue · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

Step 1:

Buy Starting Strength.

Do the program. This includes cramming +3000 calories down your gullet daily.

Step 2:

Learn how to dress yourself. /r/malefashionadvice can help you with that.

Step 3:

Stack bills.

Step 4:

Approach females. Run game.

All steps can be carried out concurrently. Steps 1, 2, and 3 make step 4 exponentially easier, but are not prerequisites. Consider acquiring a game guide to accelerate progress in step 4.

This also assumes you are already good at making male friends. If not, consider that Step 1b.

u/Auvergnat · 12 pointsr/TheRedPill

OK so it's not because you pass shit tests that you're automatically "alpha". "Alpha" is the collection of sexually attractive traits: good looks, social & personal dominance, high status, pre-selection, etc. When a woman manages to get with a man she finds sexually attractive and get him to commit to her, she slowly turn him into a beta. A process called betaization. Why? Because she also need to fulfill the other side of her strategy, which is getting a dependable and resourceful man to give her always more stuff. So she needs her alpha to become her beta. Once you get into a committed relationship, she's actively trying to turn you into someone that she needs although it is someone who is, unbeknownst to her, unattractive. That's why TRP tells you to shack up as late as possible in a LTR, not to get married, to maintain active dread, to pass shit tests, to be ready to walk away, etc. It's work for you to fight her instinctive attempts at making a beta out of you and to ensure you stay enough alpha to remain sexually attractive to her. It's especially important as familiarity brings contempt anyway, and that women are naturally attracted to the emotions brought about by mystery and unpredictability. Aka, strange dick is alluring just because it's strange.

You can read more about betaization in that awesome book:

u/tits_out_forTheBoys · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

Read Benjamin Graham's The Intelligent Investor. Buy the 4th Edition with Jason Zweig's commentary.

That book will provide you with some of the best core knowledge about investing in the stock market, and more importantly, the necessary mindset for investing successfully. So when you're done reading it you'll know where to look for applicable information, which fund managers to follow, etc. But it starts off with that book.

u/2comment · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

I travel and move a lot for my job, my hotel budget isn't such that I can stay at places stocked with a great gym too often, so I'm a fan of body exercises and minimal lightweight equipment.

I like this book, because it has a decent smartphone app and is cheap. Once you get advanced, also look into Convict Conditioning and gymnastic program like GymnasticBodies or the like (GB tends to be expensive and heavy on the upsell, there should be a cheaper series with the same stuff in it).

u/doubleknee24 · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

From what you've written it seems like you could gain a lot from this book No More Mr Nice Guy. You will see it recommended on here as you continue to read the side bar. It will help.

u/a2abfcd4 · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

Don't do the zyzz workout unless you're on the juice. It's not as efficient training as it could be. I personally like doing GSLP, but you can also do SL5x5 or SS.

These are better for a begginner for sure, because you can hit your body harder more times per week and still grow stronger. Also these all include lifts that raise test.

u/bbmc7gm6fm · 3 pointsr/TheRedPill

Frame is dynamic rather than static. You may enter as guest and still be comfortable, receive all the attention and people would want to follow you around.

The 48 Laws of Power is a great book about frame.

Sometimes you need to burn your own house down in order to maintain your frame!

u/Mechbiscuit · 3 pointsr/TheRedPill

What OP describes in his post isn't cold reading. Cold reading is...

> Cold reading is a set of techniques used by mentalists, psychics, fortune-tellers, mediums and illusionists to determine or express details about another person, often to imply that the reader knows much more about the person than the reader actually does.

(Source: Google)

It's what Derren Brown does to tell people what colour their curtains and carpet are. It's a trick and whilst fun to do to people in pick-up, has limited value in the real world.

If however you're talking about reading peoples body language to get a feeling for how positive and negative stress emotions display themselves, I highly recommend Joe Navaro's What everbody is saying.

That book is a great starting point and actually an invaluable resource to get to grip with the basics of body language, which DOES have value in the real world.

u/vissil · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

That's so totally wrong. Don't compliment someone when you're expecting something in exchange. Compliment them because you sincerely believe what you're saying to be true. I think you need to take a closer look at No More Mr. Nice Guy.

u/IAMTHEDEATHMACHINE · 43 pointsr/TheRedPill

As someone who has gone to college, graduated, and joined the workforce, I can say without question that I wish I hadn't gone.

I had lucrative Navy offers on the table and was also considering trade schools. Instead, I chose to go to a 4-year private university that offered me some scholarship money because it had been drummed into my head that college was the only way to succeed. I didn't know what I wanted to do in life, and I ended up with a poli sci degree and about $40K in debt (even after the scholarships). Useless.

Now, I have friends in the military who are doing great (in or out). I have friends who work in the oilfields, who are mechanics, who are welders, plumbers, electricians, etc... all doing very well personally and financially. And here's the kicker:

Most of them work their 40 and go home. If they work more, they make more. Lots more. They feel a sense of accomplishment when they complete a physical task with tangible results.

Me, I work as many hours as it takes. For the same money, no matter what. My job is ambiguous, the results often unclear. It's sad.

Check out the book Shop Class as Soulcraft if you're more interested in this disparity. But be careful, as it will make you want to quit your job and become a welder, carpenter, electrician, or mechanic.

Also, it's tough to justify going to college when some 50% (ish) of guys my age are un- or under-employed, despite their degrees. Part of that is guys (like me) getting dumb degrees. A larger part of that is that the college education that our parents/advisors enjoyed doesn't pay us the same benefits as it did them.

u/CopperFox3c · 22 pointsr/TheRedPill

> female feminist here in good faith to learn and add new perspective for the sake of the evolutionary and ecological principles of diversity

What? That sentence doesn't mean anything. I have a PhD lady, big words don't impress me, only meaning does.

Men have a gang mentality, always have, always will. Go read Jack Donovan's book "The Way of Men". That has nothing to do with individual agency. Individuals acting in concert still maintain their autonomy. It is only when others want to tell/shame them into behaving in particular ways (as feminists/SJWs/progressives like to do), that they become hypo-agents.

Actually, you make a great argument against feminism, ironically enough.

u/_Molon_Labe_ · 7 pointsr/TheRedPill

Get a therapist. I don't say that in a negative way. I mean that the best person to help you identify and work through your issues, especially if you're the typical "nice guy," is a licensed therapist. Obviously, not all therapists are created equal, and not all are good for men.

If you're wanting some material for yourself to read, before you get to a therapist, there is:

No More Mr Nice Guy by DR Donald Glover - focus on identifying past issues and self improvement.

And the website of Dr Tara J Palmatier, Shrink4men - more focused on healing and recovery from relationships with women possessing a variety of social disorders.

Again, if you're really trying to work through some serious issues, you're going to walk to talk to a professional, that is aimed squarely at men. That cuts out probably 95% of female therapists, and about 60% of male therapists. If you have serious issues from your past that affect your behavior its really hard to self-diagnose, and self-treat, which is why most men deal with those issues through booze or drugs or women, or more commonly videogames and isolation.

u/iceet · 3 pointsr/TheRedPill

I have read the Way of the Superior Man and the Manipulated Man. Both are excellent. Here are two that I recommend:

Sex-Ploytation by Matthew Fitzgerald

No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover

u/Bennu2017 · 5 pointsr/TheRedPill

I really like your point about everything having to be about you. I'm almost half way through Rules for Radicals and I can't support it enough. I think OP may be having issues with preconceptions about certain words or ideas. A word from Alinsky.

> "Even the word politics itself, which Webster says is "the science and art of government," is generally viewed in a context of corruption. Ironically, the dictionary synonyms are "discreet; providing, diplomatic, wise."

> "The same discolorations attach to other words prevalent in the language of politics, words like power, self-interest, compromise, and conflict. They become twisted and warped, viewed as evil. Nowhere is the prevailing political illiteracy more clearly revealed than in these typical interpretations of words. "

He goes on to shed those words in a positive light and I can't recommend his book enough. I really like when OP said

> "Its all fucking fake."

He's slowly realize life's a game and most people don't even realize they're playing. We have the rules now just do it

u/u-r-silly · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

Thanks for the reco. I get my mindset from Mark Manson's Models

And here I was blinding myself. Glad to see someone who thinks like this.

u/PracticedPrick · 45 pointsr/TheRedPill

But you seem to know most of that already.

You can actually use your natural altruism to justify a more realistic and self-concerned approach when you realise that boldness, confidence and assertiveness are gifts you give others not just yourself.

u/Porkinscrash · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

Read, "The 48 Laws of Power". If you are a history buff and want insight on how to gain power, this book is for you! One of my personal favorites.

u/VZPurp · 6 pointsr/TheRedPill


Covers this topic, and is good material if you want to start practicing it for your own gain.

u/Rhybon · 7 pointsr/TheRedPill

The statistic, in better context: There are 65 employed, unmarried men for every 100 employed, unmarried women in the United States.

But why? Perhaps because unmarried men don't need income as badly as married men. Bachelors can be survive and thrive by living a minimalistic lifestyle, which provides significantly more time for leisure and places less necessity on holding steady employment. This lifestyle, which is well documented and pushed in Captain Capitalism's Bachelor Pad Economics, is simply infeasible when a married man needs a higher and more steady income to sustain his wife and children.

Additionally, I would assume these numbers are significantly different if you compare employed, married men and women in the United States. Likely flipped on its head as women are far more likely to exit the workplace after marriage.

u/omanisherin · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

I suggest starting him off with some reading to establish a core belief system before sending him deep into TRP...

Are pretty easy to digest.

u/elevul · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

Ugh, don't link random stuff to beginners. Link them what's known as the best beginner program: Starting Strength!

u/lukins · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

Bachelor Pad Economics. Worth the minimal cost to get. It as an absolutely red pill way to look after your finances. Discusses the recommended case of not getting married, but also discusses how to handle your finances if you decide to do so. I read it and highly recommend it.

u/Garl_Vinland · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

The Way of Men by Jack Donovan is a great place to start.

Here is a video introduction.

u/laere · 26 pointsr/TheRedPill

What Every BODY Is Saying

Read this book and other body language books.

When you walk, walk with your shoulders.

Take up as much space as possible while sitting or standing.

Hands on your hips (power pose).

I avoid things like crossing my arms, hands in my pockets, and never ever have your head hanging low, or looking at the ground. Always keep your chin up slightly, never break eye contact first, etc.

These things alone have had customers at work assume I was the boss there. It's like magic.

EDIT: Also when talking, speak slowly, with calmness, and use a deep voice. Don't be afraid to pause before speaking as taking a couple seconds to contemplate on what to say is natural.

u/bsutansalt · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

Congratulations, you just learned that we live in an era of open hypergamy. Get used to it and enjoy the decline.

u/shamanbard · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

If you haven't yet, visit:
Captain Capitalism

He's the pretty much THE financial authority in the manosphere, he even consults as a business if you ever need advice.

"Bachelor Pad Economics" by Aaron Clarey (Captain Capitalism) is a great book written for men (not women) of all ages about finances in the realities of our evolving economy. I just started reading it a few days ago, but it's specifically written from a red-pill perspective.

u/Valreddit99 · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

"TL;DR - Fuck her well and good and she'll want you more than she even thought she could."

This is a good read.

u/BabaxGanoosh · 1 pointr/TheRedPill
  1. The Way Of Men.
    This book changed my life. Im sure anyone on this sub will recognize themselves and the situations Donovan writes about.

  2. Anything by Robert Greene.
    How to become powerful, seductive and master yourself.

  3. Meditations.
    This book helped me overcome my fear of death, which made me give less fucks. Because in the end, nothing matters.

    I dont have anymore than that at the moment, but i would suggest reading biographies of great men. Right now im reading Seven Pillars Of Wisdom, T. E. Lawrence(of Arabia)s first hand account of the Arab uprising during the First World War
u/complyordie222 · 7 pointsr/TheRedPill

If you havnt already, definitely read "No More Mr Nice Guy" (

Sounds like you are on the right track but the key to everything is about balance, push the envelope out a little bit more each time to see where the push/pull sweet spot lies.

u/ok_go_get_em · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

Speaking of redpill reading, I feel the need to shout out Jack Donovan here. Two of his books, "The Way of Men" and "Becoming a Barbarian" have been absolutely revolutionary for me. These are dangerous books, full of dangerous ideas. The former one, in particular, is an excellent primer in masculine virtue. I bet I've given half a dozen copies away. Read them, learn them, commit them to memory. Also recommended: "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius and "Letters from a Stoic" by the one and only Seneca.

u/gELSK · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

// , My knees have finally stopped clicking, as of a few days ago.

Bulgarian split squats and step ups may finally have me ready to try Starting Strength Squats with real weight again.

The most important gym equipment is between your ears.

Edit: Your muscle is the natural predator of your fat. Muscle will destroy fat's ability to attack your mind.

u/beefypork906 · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

Walk slower powerful people walk slowly. Source

u/down_with_whomever · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

>Are there any RP guides on fucking specifically?

I've heard other RP people talk about this book as being essential TRP material but I've never read it and I don't know what's in it.

>I know there's guys out there that can own a girl entirely off their dick game, how can I move in this direction?

I don't personally recommend it. I recommend using every tool in your arsenal. If a lot of people want to know my sex method I can write another post about it, but the short answer is that experience is valuable. Practice, mix it up and take note of her reactions, of what works and what doesn't.

u/Mortikhi · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

Buy the book, Enjoy the Decline: Accepting and Living with the Death of the United States. Read it. Follow the advice. Pretty soon you won't give a shit about those things that piss you off because you will realize that there's nothing you can do about it so you might as well ignore it.

u/Ronfar · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

While I don't know of any definitive blog post on the decline of Western Civilisation (from a RP view), Roissy tends to go into that topic a lot. To be honest, there's so many posts on the subject throughout the Manosphere. You just need to spend the time searching through.

Aaron Clarey wrote on a book on it called Enjoy the Decline, but I haven't read it myself.

u/drawingroomgentleman · 1 pointr/TheRedPill
>Law 48: Assume formlessness
· By having a visible plan you open yourself to attack.
· Stay adaptable and on the move

Also consider reading the whole sidebar, include the references contained in the assorted links. There's a fair amount of good stuff, and it will shed light on much of the discussion.

u/-voteforPepe- · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

I'm a (now reformed) felon and I spent most of my criminal days trying to look like I wasn't up to anything. To not arouse suspicion. Most felons/"thugs" have a drug problem and only really attract women who also have a drug problem which carries a lack of commitment with it usually. I think you're misunderstanding some things. A man can (and should) demand respect through his demeanor, by being a "closed book," by making the right choices, by being assertive, etc. One of the 48 Laws of Power is to always obey the law. You cannot be a powerful individual and also a criminal because the rest of society automatically has power over you when you are breaking laws. Based on your posts I think you'd like to read that book, and mighty clarify the difference between a thug (who is alpha in his circle of convicts and trashy women) and a true Alpha Male who commands respect from everyone around him.

u/ribati · 1 pointr/TheRedPill

It's very similar to the "social proof" that Cialdini explained in his the book Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion

u/Lt_Muffintoes · 4 pointsr/TheRedPill

There's also Games People Play

What Every Body is Saying

For learning about body language and social psychology

u/linkfoo · 2 pointsr/TheRedPill

The point of this whole sequence of threads is to discuss The 48 Laws of Power.

u/megatron37 · 7 pointsr/TheRedPill

Hello 29 year old version of me, from the 36 year old version of me. Since you're a reader of actual books, this should be pretty easy.

  1. Women judge others (both genders) based on clothing. Doesn't matter if it's fair or not, they just do. If you roll into a bar rocking UFC branded clothing, it's not going to work. I used the Details Guide to Style to up my style game.

  2. Books? My man. First: No More Mr. Nice Guy. You will be blown away at how he says that everything you've done with women is wrong. I realize you've said that you handed it to your therapist, but by the questions you're asking, you haven't started to live it yet. Second: Models by Mark Manson. There are other resources, but read those two first. Come back to Rational Male afterwards.

  3. Here's what I gather about online dating:
    Okcupid/Plentyoffish: free sites, lots of cheapos/weirdos. Probably decent for hookups.
    Match: Pay site, has a moderate "meat market" feel to it.
    Eharmony: the most expensive, best for meeting long term relationship material

  4. Hold off on having kids. Focus on you for a while.

  5. You were a lifelong feminist? How did that work out for you? TRP will help out a lot with this.

  6. Sorry, I have no idea what this question is asking.

  7. When you start feeling confident - believing in yourself, standing tall, not breaking eye contact - people will respect you.

  8. I banged a few substandard women to get it wet after my divorce. While it was great to spread the seed around (wear a condom), be forewarned - low quality, insecure women can be really hard to get rid of.

  9. Buying dinner is one thing - buying her jewelry and shit is another (don't do it.) PS - she should be offering to buy dinner/drinks every now and again. Take her up on it. If she never offers to pay for anything, she views you as a cash register, get rid of her.

  10. I'm not a fan of counseling myself, but live your life. I'm not sure how many hard-charging badass counselors there are out there but if you're not happy with his level of service, find another one.

    Overall Impressions/Recommendations:

  • You really seem intent on asking other dudes for permission/approval. I'm sorry that you didn't have a male role model, but you need to start doing things that YOU approve of, and make YOU happy. This is the essence of TRP.

  • Once your phase of crying/drinking/feeling sorry for yourself is over, take some time, and work on YOU. Improve yourself before you get out there.
  • Get your ass into a gym. Lifting weights will get your testosterone flowing, and get all of that shameful, feminist estrogen out of your system.
  • Get a hobby. I was feeling powerless after my divorce. In addition to weightlifting, I started martial arts lessons. All of the time I would spend by myself drinking beer and playing video games, I converted into weight training/martial arts time. It will turn you from a little whimpering beta into a bad motherfucker. Plus you'll have something to talk about on dates. No woman gives a fuck about how you beat level 35 of Knight's Quest 8.

    It's a lot to deal with at once, and I wouldn't wish divorce on my worst enemy. But you know what? A year after I got divorced, I was banging women 8 years younger than my ex-wife. You can do this.