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1. Run the VR compatibility check: https://store.steampowered.com/app/323910/SteamVR_Performance_Test/
   
2. Upgrade to Windows 10 version 1809:https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
   
3. Load Steam VR: https://store.steampowered.com/app/250820/
   
4. Load STEAM WMR: https://store.steampowered.com/app/719950/
   
5. Bluetooth: For all but Samsung Odyssey HMD+, be sure your computer has a Bluetooth capability to talk to the hand controllers. If capability is not built in, buy a Bluetooth dongle and plug it into a USB 2 port. AND, if possible place this in an USB 2 port that is away from the Headset connection to the computer --- perhaps the front of the computer. Known to work (Plugable Bluetooth 4.0 low energy.): https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Bluetooth-Adapter-Raspberry-Compatible/dp/B009ZIILLI
   
6. Plug in the your headset:a. Headset HDMI: plug headset HDMI connector into your graphics cardb. Headset USB: plug into USB 3 connector (blue or red)This will cause the headset software to install the headset to start runningAlternate approach: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-your-windows-mixed-reality-headset
   
7. Pair your controllers:https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/mixed-reality/enthusiast-guide/set-up-windows-mixed-reality#set-up-your-motion-controllers
   
8. Play Space: be sure you clear plenty of space. If you are 6 foot, you need a nine foot ceiling. You can break controllers, your hands, or TVs etc. if you do not have enough space. I found that standing on a rug the siz of your safe area (for me that is 8 feet by 6 feet) enables my feet to tell me if I am heading toward a boundary where trouble lurks. A padded rug or yoga mat helps with being able to sense edges and play for long sessions.
   
9. Games: start with free and check STEAM for the most played. Consider:
   
   a. The Lab
   
   b. Rec Room
   
   c. Google Earth
   
   d. You Tube
   
   e. Beat Saber
   
   f. Elven Assassin
   
   g. Arizona Sunshine
   
   h. Gorn
   
   i. Pavlov
   
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10. Location of free WMR software for education: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/shop/apps?q=victoryvr
    
    to see the way school use these to make middle and high scholl curriculums, as well as, other items from VictoryVR education company : https://www.victoryvr.biz/victoryvr-products/
    
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11. Buy rechargeable batteries: people say the Amazon basic rechargeable are great; highly rated from IKEAhttps://www.amazon.com/Ikea-ladda-Battery-rechargeable-2450/dp/B01MQ0U97A/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1544531944&sr=8-4&keywords=ikea+rechargeable+batteries#customerReviews

I've had tracking issues in the past but seem to have finally figured it out. It's finicky and there are a few things you need to do to get the best experience.

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First of all, Microsoft suggests this bluetooth adapter.

Second, try different USB ports on your system. If the port you're using shares the same controller as the headset itself or some other device it may not be working perfectly. Try 2.0 and 3.0 ports until you find one that works best.

Third, I have my adapter on an extension cord so I can bring it as close to my play area as possible.

Fourth, try the Marvel driver that Microsoft recommends. Go to Device Manager and find your bluetooth driver, right click and go to properties>driver>update driver>browse my computer for updated driver>let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer; now uncheck "show compatible hardware" and find "Marvel Semiconductor, Inc." then choose Marvel AVASTAR Bluetooth Radio Adapter".

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After all that I have basically perfect tracking. I can play Beat Saber about as well as this system can handle I think. In fact I just finished a bunch of the original songs at 135% speed today and it kept up without losing tracking.

For someone who's is just getting in to VR the Lenovo is a great headset.

Before I bought my Lenovo for about 300 USD (which is a steal in most of Europe) I used the PSVR and the Lenovo is so much better. Superior resolution, much lighter and thus easier to move around in, significantly improved colours and blacks.

I also have a large head. Im forced to fully unscrew the back screw that tightens the headband and it's still kinda tight if I don't let my hair down.

But if you don't mind adding another 90 USD you should go for the Samsung Odisey + which is in almost every way superior to the Lenovo.

The main advantage of the Odisey + over the Lenovo, besides the increased resolution and less pronounced SDE, is that you don't need a Bluetooth dongle connected to your PC for controller paring. The Samsung has Bluetooth recivers in the headset it self.

From what I've read on this sub and other places online the O + controller tracking works great out of the box while other WMR headsets, like the Lenovo, are much more finicky - and that not even mentioning that the latest SteamVR update that introduced diffirent controller mapping for WMR controllers introduced more problems like pronounced shaking and jittier in WMR controllers.


If I were you in your shoes I would get the Odisey + in a heart beat over the Lenovo.

Hope this helps.

Hey frustration can get the best of anyone. I put my lights on a dimmer as I found my tracking works best when I dial the brightness back maybe 20%. And don't get me started on the BT usb dongle, I was ready to throw the pc out the window when trying to show off my Odyssey at a family member's home. Had good results with this BT adapter. Also, switch all wireless devices to 5GHz / turn off 2.4 GHz wireless on your router if you can at all help it. Once I got all these environmental variables dialed in, tracking stopped dropping off, so it's really worth the time getting everything right. Good luck!

> Hello, i use my (acer) controllers with a set of eneloop pro 2500mah 1.2v [...] I know 1.2v is not ideal

Actually, 1.2 volts IS ideal. 1.5 volt alkaline batteries reach 1.2 volts when they are only half depleted. So, if a device stops working at 1.2 volts and requires new batteries, that means it's forcing you to throw away half full batteries. In other words, it's a poorly engineered device that cares nothing for wasting your money, polluting the Earth, etc, and you don't want to own it.

Another thing to consider is the fact Eneloop Pro batteries are tremendously inferior to standard Eneloop batteries. They are only good for 500 charge cycles, and typically last for 2 to 4 years. Genuine AA Eneloop NiMH batteries are good for 2100 charge cycles, and will hold their charge for 10 years minimum. Then you can recharge them for another 10 years. You need to buy Eneloop Pro batteries AT LEAST FIVE TIMES to match standard a Eneloop battery. You won't save money that way.

In short, it's possible your Eneloop Pro batteries have reached the end of their life and are not holding their charge as well as they did when they were new. If that guess is correct, then you need to replace them.

I recommend you get these ones:

• New battery day! 24 AA Eneloop NiMH batteries in 16 and 8 cell packs. : r/AAMasterRace
  
  Get this package first to get the highest quality charger on the market:
  
  
• AmazonSmile: Panasonic K-KJ17MCA4BA Advanced Individual Cell Battery Charger Pack with 4 AA eneloop 2100 Cycle Rechargeable Batteries: PANASONIC: Electronics
  
  You need that charger to get the full life out of Eneloops. If you take care of them, Eneloops will last at least a decade, maybe longer. This USB charger is also good, and will work well for Eneloop or any other NiMH batteries:
  
  
• IKEA VINNINGE AA and AAA NiMH individual cell USB smart charger : r/AAMasterRace

Very interesting but I'm not able to do that, I went for some 1.5v Rechargeable batteries. They work amazing for my O+. Never died during gameplay and I've played 4 and 6hr sessions with the batteries still reading 30% +. I went through so may AA durecells I've already saved so much $$

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HQ7QV7W/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_nnChDb4DR13D1

Between the bright lights and the constant vibrating in FPS games, Regular AA batteries would not last me more than 2 or 3 Sessions before I had tracking/low battery issues. Never again

I did a research about the Explorer (since I noticed that people love their Explorers and they said good things about it) so I got interested in it as well and I think I can reccommend you to **not use the flip up display thing since it is sensitive and it can break easily** (instead use the Flashlight feature that allows you to see the real world using its cameras without taking off the HMD)

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As for the BT donle I heard good things about this **Plugable BT dongle** :

https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Bluetooth-Adapter-Raspberry-Compatible/dp/B009ZIILLI/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1538640779&sr=1-4&keywords=bluetooth+4.0+dongle

Also some GPUs require the right display port (in order to get 90 fps at max and not only 60 fps) so I am also going to buy the **Plugable Active DisplayPort to HDMI 2.0 Adapter**

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S0C7QO8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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And I found that the best rechargeable AA batteries are these of Eneloop (I am also going to buy the standard charger they have with it) :

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JHKSMJU/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?pd_rd_i=B01G3SS04A&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=f52e26da-1287-4616-824b-efc564ff75a4&pf_rd_r=KS01C5W02E586HF605CW&pd_rd_wg=E0zRf&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=M28DE&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=2f98b6c6-cc99-11e8-9fea-e722222b4194&th=1

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These are the stuff I decided to buy for my yet to be purchased Explorer after doing my research.

That's an awesome price, I paid $265 for mine and I've been very happy with it. I'm planning on upgrading my machine but I want to see if GPU prices stabilize first. I couldn't wait any longer for VR though. If you're interested in lens protectors I can tell you these in a 42mm fit great, just be careful not to leave bubbles when you apply them. I'd also suggest getting rechargeable batteries as the controllers tend to eat them.

> but do these headsets have issues with power often?

It can certainly happen, but doesn't seem very common. My Lenovo here doesn't like any of the motherboards USB ports, but works with a USB PCIe card. I still have to reboot the PC quite often to get the headset started, as it might throw 1-4 display cable errors or otherwise not properly detect the headset.

As for the headsets, they are fine, especially for the price, but they lack a bit of polish:

• controller ergonomics leave a bit to be desired, there are 3D printable handles to improve that
  
• controller power management is broken, they don't work properly with NiMH or Alkaline batteries and require basically daily battery changes, this can be fixed with rechargable 1.5V Li-Ion batteries
  
• headset face foam is pretty fragile and will start disintegrating quickly, there is an official VRCover replacement or you can just get a cheap Vive cover from ebay/aliexpress, they fit the WMR quite well
  
• the HMD hinge is pretty fragile and has broken for quite a few users
  
• FOV is a bit lacking in the default config, but can be improved by about 10° by switching the front/back foam padding on the halo around and using a thin Vive cover
  
• some velcro ties to route the cable to the back are a good idea, by default the cable will pull the right side down which is annoying
  
• the cable clip can break quite easily, not even sure how I managed to break mine, but one day it just fell apart, there is a 3d printable replacement or just a velcro tie will work as well
  
• the driver situation between SteamVR, Oculus, Revive and WMR can be a bit messy and depending on what combination you use not everything will work properly
  
• the Windows 1903 Update, brings a ton of new features to WMR (flashlight, ability to open windows in game), doesn't automatically install for all people and might need to be done manually
  
• a USB Bluetooth dongle isn't included and needs to be bought separately, also a good idea to put it in a USB 2.0 port and attach is to an extension cord to avoid interference problems which will lead to jittery controller in-game
  
• the tracking is pretty sensitive to light, keep windows covered or otherwise the tracking might mess up, e.g. controllers go flying in all directions, the tracking will also have problems in a dark room, so you have to keep the lights on

I bought a Vive Link Box to use as a signal/power booster in the middle, and it works great. This cured all my dropouts and audio glitches, as well as giving my system a Bluetooth radio.

This setup works great:

1. Vive Link Box
   
2. Vive Link Box Power Supply
   
3. 12 ft Power cable extension for Vive Link Box
   
4. 10 ft USB 3.0 extension cable
   
5. 10 ft Amazon Basics HDMI cable
   
6. Wire wrap to keep everything tidy
   
   Make sure you power cycle the Vive Link Box whenever you plug or unplug anything into it to for it to reinitialize and detect the headset.
   
   I really wish there was a more elegant solution, but so far this works the best for me.

Vrcover for sure
And don't get the PK Cell, get these

USB Rechargeable Batteries 1.5V/1500mAh Lithium Ion AA Battery with 4-in-1 Micro USB Charging Cable 1.5h Quick-Charge Built-in Integrated Safety Circuit Protection Double A Batteries(4 Pack)) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F27PK2M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_JBc7CbNV06EYV

Or these

CT ENERGY USB Rechargeable AA Batteries 1.5V/1600mAh Lithium ion Battery with 1.5 Hours Quick Charging Micro-USB Port Li-ion Double A Batteries (4packs) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q3DBYV7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_sCc7Cb0R2DXZZ

I have both and they are great batteries.

Extensions that work:

AmazonBasics High-Speed Male to Female HDMI Extension Cable - 6 Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D5H90L4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_lDc7CbBE9E1R5

6ft


Cable Matters 200008-BLACK-6 USB to USB Extension Cable in Black 6 Feet Available 3FT 10FT in Length https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C7S2FRE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ODc7CbA4Q82ZZ

6ft

And I like to use the usb-c port on my laptop. It's closer to the HDMI and seems like a stronger port when using the usb extension.

AmazonBasics USB Type-C to USB 3.1 Gen1 Female Adapter Cable - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GGKYXVE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_8Dc7CbJA5TMTV

I'm not 100% sure on the rotation, want to say yes it still did, but don't want to give you any false info - I'm pretty sure it was not all or nothing, rather just alot of strange behavior - but it sure sounds like the same problem. The difference was night and day - once i switched, I now never lose tracking - for instance if I go out of headset sight, i don't notice because the controllers always pickup instantly - point being you'll know if you do something to get it corrected, it won't be "maybe it's better"

I should mention i went overboard to solve the issue - got rid of all wireless gadgets hooked up to the PC - keyboard/mouse (went wired), wifi off, onboard BT off, etc - but i can't confirm any of that made a difference since i did this all at once when i got the bluetooth adapter. But after doing all that, i've said in other posts tracking went from maybe 4/10 to a 10/10. Before it worked often enough to make me think that's just how it was.

I would def lose the extension, eliminate any variables.

for reference, here's the dongle i picked up - it might reveal something despite the fact yours is approved and should be fine.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VWEK4IG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Just to throw it out there if you haven't yet purchased the other batteries yet, I encourage you to consider these

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HQ7QV7W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Dn9MDbSJYHMJK

They are lithium rechargeable batteries so they are much better than Nimh rechargeable at maintaining that 1.5v the controllers want. I personally have a set and they are great! Good battery life and no annoying false notice of low battery. When I'm not using them with my wmr controllers I throw them in my steam controller too, lol. They have overall worked fantastic for me. Much better than Nimh's, those dont last as long and don't hold a charge well with prolonged non use. Something to consider!

I'm using these and everything has been super comfortable and great. They are elastic so they form to your head. Save yourself the extra cash for upcoming games!! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G54B68Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use lithiums too.

When Ni-Zn rechargables have a longer track-record, I'll probably give them a try. My concerns are I have read about leaks. Also Ni-Zn currently require a special charger. Once Ni-Zn batteries have been out a while it'll be safer. The additional voltage is a nice feature for the controllers.

For now, I use these lithiums >> USB Rechargeable Batteries 1.5V/1500mAh Lithium Ion AA Battery with 4-in-1 Micro USB Charging Cable 1.5h Quick-Charge Built-in Integrated Safety Circuit Protection Double A Batteries(4 Pack)

and I really love how they charge with a little usb-octopus cable -- and the batteries individually light up to show if they're charging (red) or fully charged (green). It's no-brainer easy.

Get a Vive Link box. Plug it into your graphics card and then you have a nice usb and HDMI extension and a box for it to pull out of if you tug on it. I have one mounted up by the ceiling and use it to plug my headsets in. Gives me 6 feet of extension and makes it easy to swap headsets without getting to the pc.

https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Link-Box-pc/dp/B01LXR6DKV/ref=sr_1_3?gclid=CjwKCAjw8NfrBRA7EiwAfiVJpdbn8RxGeymh3-yaxdVieOd0DSOT8kHU4yx-kMGVS8kPi968T6RlexoC0HMQAvD_BwE&hvadid=174219869890&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9028802&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2235828699297377110&hvtargid=kwd-275617700088&hydadcr=26583_9479132&keywords=vive+link+box&qid=1568047574&s=gateway&sr=8-3

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or if you have an RTX card with the usb c displaylink you can try the Accell Adapter. My Odyssey and O+ seem to like it. My original rift is not a fan of it which is funny as it says Oculus ready.

https://www.amazon.com/Accell-J231C-008B-3-USB-C-VR-Adapter/dp/B07LC4B43P/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=vr+display+link&qid=1568047624&s=gateway&sr=8-4

edited for links and more info

Controllers:
Uninstall bluesoliel, that's not for windows 10 that's for previous versions of windows, clear that out. Windows 10 has native support for bluetooth adapters. Disconnect WMR headset and that bluetooth adapter. Reboot and update windows. Then plug in the bluetooth adapter.

Plug your bluetooth adapter into a USB 2.0 not 3.0 (if there's a 2.0 spot on the front or top of your case that's better, even better is to use a usb 2.0 extension to move it away from anything causing interference).

Headset:
Is that an MSI tomahawk b350 motherboard? I have the b450 and the only USB port that works with windowsmr is the one labeled VR Ready, its the one next to the one you have plugged in, try that one. If i try to use the other usb ports it wont provide enough power. Scratch that looks like you have it plugged into the VR Ready usb port? Unplug your microphone first and try other USB port,s i cant see the other ports and cant find a pic of the cover to check if its like the b450. I believe the port you should try is a Gen1, Type A (if thats a MSI motherboard, based on my experience with my b450 tomahawk, the Gen2 port does not work with windows mr). If you figure out why motherboard you have i can look it up on MSI's website. It could be a loose connection also as you mentioned the headset gets disconnected? Try jiggling it a little and see if it drops off or stays steady. Better yet take a picture of your back panel ports and ill tell you which usb port to try.

Controllers:
Try those first then report back. If none of those works i'd try getting the Microsoft recommended Bluetooth dongle
Whats your graphics card by the way?

...Also this might be the angle of the picture but it looks like your power supply is stuffed full of dust, blow that thing out!

Had the Odyssey for about 2 weeks now. Great device, only issue I've been having is the left touch pad gets stuck in VRChat sometimes (software). The cord is a little shot too, but I hear that's an issue with all(most?) headsets. Fixed that issue by getting a HDMI/USB3 extender.

I don't really have anything I can compare it too since it's my first VR headset. So I'll just boil it down to: Is it worth $400? Yes, for me Gorn, Fallout VR, and SuperHot VR make it worth it. Also recommend getting some rechargeable batteries, first set lasted me about 2 days.

Don't forget to buy a Bluetooth dongle if you don't have one. Bluetooth is required for the controllers.

I use a 15ft active USB cable, 3ft displayport to hdmi adapter, 15ft active hdmi cable, and a link box in between. With my Lenovo explorer. Works perfectly. Holds 90fps. And no static or anything. I use the bluetooth on the link box.

Plugable Active DisplayPort to... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S0C7QO8?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014I8T8FC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Cable Matters USB 3.0 Cable (USB... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HSS9LEI?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

HTC Vive Link Box https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LXR6DKV?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

AC to DC 12V 1.5A 12V1.5A Power... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018JL0YIY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

USB Rechargeable Batteries 1.5V/1500mAh Lithium Ion AA Battery with 4-in-1 Micro USB Charging Cable 1.5h Quick-Charge Built-in Integrated Safety Circuit Protection Double A Batteries(4 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F27PK2M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_LVWTDbM5EP6YB

I would probably get a day or so out of energizer rechargeables as well.

Now I get a week if I play heavily. I bought these is September and only had to recharge them once when I wanted to play.

Usually a bluetooth issue.

Make sure your adapter is plugged into a usb 2.0 port, not 3.0. If you have any other bluetooth devices connected at the same time, disconnect them - doesn't seem to be able to handle the bandwidth of anything more than the two controllers without the jitter showing up.

If you're still having issues, maybe get a short usb extension cable to move the BT adapter away from potential interference sources in your computer (and closer to where you're using the controllers), and make sure your adapter is a good quality one - the Windows MR dev team has particular ones they recommend, such as this one.

EDIT: my answer does not appear to be a popular one. If I've got something wrong in my understanding of typical WMR controller issue solutions, please let me know so I can learn myself somethin'.

Get it and also make sure you purchase quality batteries to per your motion controllers. I couldn't believe how I'd kill expensive lithium disposable batteries in less then a day of heavy use.

I saw someone post on here about purchasing these batteries with a positive review.


https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Batteries-Quick-Charge-Integrated-Protection/dp/B07F27PK2M

I couldn't be happier that I bought a set for my controllers.

I get 3 days of 5-7 hour moderate usage before they need a recharge and should last a little over two years of they actually reach the 1000 cycle recharge limit claimed. My tracking has improved as well. There is a significant difference in how bright the controllers are compared to brand new Energizer lithium Ions when installed and turned on right next to each other.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F27PK2M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

have been an absolute dream for me. I was going through a set of energizers a DAY playing no man's sky.. these get me through the same amount of time and I just plug them in overnight. Great lights on them telling you when charged and never had a low battery warning. LOVE THEM.

I have the Plugable BT dongle, and it works great for me. Just to note -- most BT receivers aren't happy with 2 BT radios active at the same time. If your laptop has an internal bluetooth, we also recommend you to disable it and only use an external dongle. My personal setup also has a wireless keyboard/mouse with a separate receiver, and the two seem to work nicely.

I ended up putting some protectors on the lenses, I used the ones that protect watch faces from amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SJ22D5Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I used the 42mm ones that fit the Lenevo perfectly.

Same here! No explanation, just working perfectly a couple of months ago.

I wanted to report in that the Bluetooth dongle + USB extension cord finally got everything working! Oh my word. This was such an annoying experience but now I'm kicking myself for not trying this simple solution sooner!

I messed around in the home portal and No Man's Sky for a bit (didn't have enough time to play with it for longer) and I experienced no issues whatsoever. Wow. I forgot how responsive VR used to be!!

So maybe give that a shot. I can't believe it's working again. I'll link the exact models I purchased here in an edit.

USB Extension Cable

Bluetooth Dongle

I should also add, when I did a clean install, I was able to select the option to keep my personal files and it still removed the 15-5 issue.

I think he’s right. I had the exact same issue you’re describing while using the HDMI port on my Gigabyte G1 390, and it was not resolved until I switched to using a DisplayPort active adapter after which things worked perfectly.

This is the one I got. There are cheaper ones out there, but most of them are passive and won’t support the necessary bandwidth.

I got this one from Best buy below. You should also check to make sure you have it plugged into a 3.0 port and also that the extender is USB 3.0 compatible as well. I also linked the us extender from Amazon below.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-bluetooth-4-0-usb-adapter-black/4884001.p?skuId=4884001

Cable Matters USB to USB Extension Cable (USB 3.0 Extension Cable / USB 3 Extension Cable) in Black 6 Feet - Available 3FT - 10FT in Length https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C7S2FRE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_FQC-AbJFAYJGV

> now I'm curious to find out whether it's worth it to pay $40 for an adapter.

$20.


this is the one microsoft recommends.
https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-DisplayPort-Supports-displays-3840x2160/dp/B00S0C7QO8


Also, I think you can get steam to tell you how many frames you're getting pretty easily. getting WMR to tell you is a bit more convoluted.

Honestly, those who would have issues doing this project without a video would probably struggle to get the very short wiring soldered to the boost controller in the first place.

I like this project, but for most people, just buying a NiMH wall charger and two sets of rechargeable NiMH batteries do the job just fine. Alternately, a set of these would accomplish the same thing.

You'll need an active DisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 adapter. I used the Plugable adapter between my 290x and original Odyssey just because it was the one recommended on the windows support page. It worked well.

I had a Club3D adapter that I used to connect to my tv which didn't work with the Odyssey. It had a strange sizing issue between the HDMI port on the adapter and the Odyssey. I simply couldn't plug them into each other, though other HDMI cables and ports worked with each.

I've been thinking about doing something like this.

As for the HDMI/USB extension, I have an Odyssey and have been using the 6 foot versions of these things with pretty great results so far:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A30FLE2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C7S2FRE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

However, I've heard that going longer than something like 10 feet requires an active cable, but I don't know the specifics of it.

But maybe it's an illusion. like the hubs with the charging ports are rated higher because of those charging ports, and hubs with a lot of connections are also rated higher because they need more overall power to draw from all the USB connections. How do you exactly know that the specs on any of them are per port? Maybe all the USB's draw the same amount regardless of what power charger you're using? you have 4 ports.. added up is 3.6 AMPS.. Exactly what that best buy one is rated at.. Someone posted this one helped people with WMR.. what do u think
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Individual-Switches-included-HB-UMP3/dp/B00TPMEOYM/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1534041003&sr=1-3&keywords=powered+usb+hub&dpID=41Pnv5luccL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch#nav-search-keywords

I have purchased these Lithium rechargeable batteries (while on-sale for $12). So far they are doing very well! They always report as full, and I'm yet to see how they will die :) I have already had 4 Beat Saber sessions (each ~1 hour long) and batteries are still reported as ~70%. I read somewhere that 1.5 volt Lithium batteries lie about their change level, but at least I'm not getting that dreaded "Battery low, haptics will be disabled" message anymore when NiMH batteries are still half-full :) Actually, that was the main reason for buying these 1.5 Lithium batteries.

P.S. There is a comprehensive tear-down review of these batteries on YouTube. They are quite well-made ones!

I just use Amazon basic extension cables lol that's it and I have never had an issue. I have the same headset as well.

If I did it again I would recommend this cable.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077T83RSV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_z1lXBb82SS4R5

These are a must for WMR.

Fresco FL1XXX usb card: https://www.newegg.com/model-orico-pme-2u-pci-express-to-usb-card/p/17Z-0003-00004?Item=9SIA1DS81G9234

Plugable BCM 20702 chipset: https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Bluetooth-Adapter-Compatible-Raspberry/dp/B009ZIILLI/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=plug+usb+bluetooth&qid=1570010785&sr=8-7

You probably do not want to pay more money, but trust me if it does not work out of box (or sporadic behavior) such was my case then get these two items.

I bought it from american amazon and so far everything works great. Which is good considering no warranty where I'm at.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HS7R1RT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use these to help with comfort take the pressure off the forehead chap too on amazon well worth the purchase Zeltauto Cable Tie Management Reusable Elastic Fastening Wire Organizer with Buckle (2 Pcs, 1.5 x 16 in) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01G54B68Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_TP1gnwB5FVtDy

This one suggesteb by microsoft
https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Bluetooth-Adapter-Raspberry-Compatible/dp/B009ZIILLI
But another cheap one i have works ok too.
Anyway the great update I had in stsbility was withe windows 1803 update.

This is the one you want. It’s recommended by Microsoft. It’s cheap and works perfectly.

Plugable USB Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy Micro Adapter (Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7, Raspberry Pi, Linux Compatible; Classic Bluetooth, and Stereo Headset Compatible) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009ZIILLI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_ioBHAb46MKERV

is the Bluetooth dongle plugged into a USB 3.0 or 2.0?,


Are you using Rechargeable batteries or 1.2 volt vs 1.5 volt batteries?


if both of the above are true I recommend getting One of these and plugging it into a USB 2.0 port and getting a pack of 1.5 volt batteries to try.



Also if youre using a cheap bluetooth dongle get one of these

you're not going to need the WMR controllers to play Elite, but you're going to need them to navigate the cliff house, steamVR home, and access the majority of functionality from your headset. honestly, i don't think you're even going to be able to load Elite in steamVR without the controllers.

a good compatible bluetooth adapter is $14 and worth it to get your controllers working.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZIILLI

Hi Takyon_dg, thanks for the info!

Here's a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter that we've tested with Windows Mixed Reality:

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Supporting-Technology/dp/B00EDT0072/

(Unfortunately, I'm not sure if any retailers in Canada sell this adapter. I tried to look for it on the NCIX, MemoryExpress, Amazon.ca and Newegg.ca web pages but didn't see it there)

Thanks!

I got these two from Amazon and they work great.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D5H90L4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C7S2FRE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I had success with adding a Valve Link Box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXR6DKV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

so that the extensions were powered. Samsung does spec HDMI 2.0 on their website:

https://www.samsung.com/us/support/troubleshooting/TSG01111314/

90Hz requirement: HDMI version 2.0, USB 3.0 HDCP 2.2 compliant

But it seems the HDMI 1.4 cables as long as they are short OR powered with the Valve Link box work well. I assume that the HDMI 1.4 with 10.2gbs is marginal.

I did. Used a powered USB 3.0 HUB and I haven't had the issue. I also use the same USB 3.0 extender. As a side note, it feels like it fixed a crackling microphone, as my friends haven't complained about it when I was talking to them. Link below:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TPMEOYM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Darn. I picked this one up, coming in the mail tomorrow. People seem to have good luck with AmazonBasics stuff. If it doesn't work, I'll give your option a shot.

I've read that certain motherboards work better than others for extensions without power. That being said, my Odyssey+ with an Asus H170 motherboard has worked fine with this 6ft HDMI extension and this 6ft USB extension.

You absolutely can do this, personally I use this one because I remember it being recommended a lot on this sub. It supports ultra mode(90hz) because it converts the signal to HDMI 2.0 which supports 4k at 60hz instead of just 30hz.

Buy rechargeables that actually put out 1.5v.

These are the ones I use


The only negative is that they stay at 1.5v right up until they turn off, so there is no warning. Does not bother me att all, I just keep a pair charged and ready to go. If if has been a while and I want to make sure I am not interrupted, I just swap in a fresh pair before playing.

Edit... I just noticed that the ones I linked to are no longer available. Sorry. The ones shared by /u/warmwires look good enough that just ordered some for my new Quest.

Edit2... I actually switched to these as they claim 100 more mAh, have a 10% off coupon, and still garner an Amazon's Choice rating. :)

To add to the bluetooth bit, Microsoft recommends the Plugable USB Bluetooth 4.0 adapter and it seems to work good according to others on this sub.

Another option if you'd rather drive and get it today would be the Insignia USB Bluetooth 4.0 adapter. I have this one myself and all I did was plug it into the front of my pc, controllers paired up straight away and work as intended.

Looks like amazon has it as well.


https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Wireless-Controllers-XE800ZBA-HC1US/dp/B07HS7R1RT/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=samsung+odyssey+%2B&qid=1563120125&s=gateway&sr=8-1

I have glasses and found that they indeed fit nicely in the Odyssey+. They didn't fit in an Oculus CV1; so the Odyssey+ definitely has more room that some headsets.

I too was worried about the lenses contacting each other. I wound up using watch face protectors. They have no discernible impact on the visuals; I even tried looking for a difference with just one installed and couldn't see a difference.

I also agree on comfort. Wearing the Odyssey+ used to cause a bit of pain if I used it for a while. Oddly enough, it doesn't anymore. I suspect the foam softened after being used for a while.

I use this adapter personally and i can confirm it works perfectly.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00S0C7QO8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So I ordered these two cables:

HDMI
and
USB

Turns out the 10 foot USB does not work on the Samsung Odyssey for me. I tried it in several USB ports and I keep getting the message to connect my headset. I tried it with a simple USB key and that worked.

Returning the 10 foot USB and getting the 6 foot instead.

The HDMI works perfectly.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S0C7QO8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is the one I use. Works like a charm for me!

USB Rechargeable Batteries... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F27PK2M?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

These work great for me. Haven't lost connection and they haven't exploded yet so thats a good sign.

You need an active displayport adapter for it to work at 90HZ. The Pluggable adapter is the one Microsoft even recommends and can be found for under $19USD/$26CAD on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-DisplayPort-Supports-displays-3840x2160/dp/B00S0C7QO8?th=1&psc=1

That's a strange card to buy new, although perhaps it is a decent price due to the current crypto-mining fad? If you got it cheap, fair enough.

Anyway, I have a Fury. Works great performance wise, but the HDMI, like the Fury X, is only 1.4, so if you want the headset at 90hz, you need to buy HDMI to Displayport adapter.

Like this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S0C7QO8/

I've been using this 6' cable with my Odyssey after seeing it suggested in a thread a while ago. Been working perfectly for me.

If you have a gfx card with a virtual link usb type c, you can use the USB c extension, works perfectly with my samsung odyssey, RTX 2070 https://www.amazon.com/Accell-J231C-008B-3-USB-C-VR-Adapter/dp/B07LC4B43P

Just so we have a good list, this is the one I purchased and it works flawlessly so far: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VWEK4IG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks, I appreciate it! This is the BT dongle I'm using (which is the one that the MS docs recommended).

I'll try disabling other things, ditching the extension, etc. I might try ordering the same dongle you're using as well since it's so cheap.

These Healingshields fit the VR lenses really well.

Yes. I purchased this one: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Individual-Switches-Included-HB-UMP3/dp/B00TPMEOYM/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2


It was recommended by a couple posters:


https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsMR/comments/96y87n/wmr_usb_30_power_requirements_for_usb_30_hub/e44d6pw/


https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsMR/comments/99amu1/loud_screeching_noise_in_wmr_problem/e4maat4/

if your pc does not have built-in Bluetooth, you're going to have to get an adaptor. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0775YF36R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Use rechargeable batteries that have more than 1.5 V. Avoid 1.2 V if you can, controllers will occasionally read them as 'low' and turn off, even though they are fine. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HQ7QV7W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

free games to keep you busy: google earth, vrchat, and rec room.

Mine is this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZIILLI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It works on 2.0 and 3.0 but I hear better on 2.0 so I bought the 2.0 extender.

Depends on what resolution you're running and what version the adapter is, but I guess you're not trying to run 4k @100hz with a 1070 anyway so you'll probably be good. Your TV won't have display port features if it doesn't have display port.

This is probably what you're looking for

Oh, okay. Well I'll keep the link up in case anybody wants to grab it anyway. I think its the same price on amazon too.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Wireless-Controllers-XE800ZBA-HC1US/dp/B07HS7R1RT/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=odyssey%2B&qid=1556327659&s=gateway&sr=8-2

If you've got a 20xx graphics card with a virtualink type c connector there's and excellent extention by accell https://www.amazon.com/Accell-J231C-008B-3-USB-C-VR-Adapter/dp/B07LC4B43P

Could be the latest update but have you tried the recommended USB adapter from Amazon? Just in case.

https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Bluetooth-Adapter-Compatible-Raspberry/dp/B009ZIILLI/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1QTU9UX6J0QT9&keywords=plugable+bluetooth&qid=1568637407&s=gateway&sprefix=plugable+blu%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-3

This is the solution: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TPMEOYM?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2

It has a little button that toggles the power on and off and also fixed an issue I had with audio cutting out and becoming static noise. It really does feel like you have a bit more control over the headset with this usb device.

I've had an Odyssey for three weeks now with a 10 ft. HDMI and USB 3.0 extension. I had to use a powered 3.0 hub because I was having horrible tracking issues without one and random blue screens. I believe USB 3.0 is rated for a max of 900mA which I think can be tedious when using passive extensions. Here's what I bought :

Sabrent USB 3.0 powered hub: Link


AmazonBasics USB 3.0 extension : Link

AmazonBasics HDMI extension: Link

I just have the cable running along the floor adjacent to the wall that my desk sits next to so I haven't had the need for any mounting applications, can't help there I'm afraid. I'll be happy to try to help if you have any questions.

If that does not work then I recommend:

Cable Matters Active DisplayPort... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EDT0072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

This finally solved my black screen issues.

I bought the following to extend my Odyssey 10' and they are working very well

HDMI extension
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01D5H91KE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

USB 3.0 extension
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00C7SA21U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That won't work. Oculus requires HDMI 1.4, WMR requires HDMI 2.0. That adapter is equivalent to a DP -> HDMI 1.4. You'll want either the Plugable one or the Club3D one. Yeah, they're more expensive and you might be cheap, but they're more expensive because you require more bandwidth than the one you posted.

The one you posted would work, but your framerate would be locked and you might as well just use the onboard HDMI 1.4 at that point.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C7SA21U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D5H91KE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These two are the ones I got.

About the tracking... it's spotty but in no way does it take away the pleasentness of gaming. It's only when the controllers are out of the sensor's vision is when it gets spotty. It jumps back in as soon as there's vision. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Hmmm, it´s a know issue that USB 3.0 interfere with BT 4.0.

I believe that the best practices related to this matter are:

• 1 - Use the recommended BT adapter plugable BT 4.0 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZIILLI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
• 2 - Must absolutely use an USB 2.0 port
  
• 3 - Put the adapter where the controllers will have line of sight of it.
  
  I did all above and haven´t had any problems so far.

As for batteries, I use mine with Tenavolt Li-Ion batteries. They charge fast, last a long time, and report 1.5v at all times, which means you won't get the annoying low battery warning you would see with standard batteries. They ARE expensive, but they go on sale pretty frequently. I got 8 of them and two chargers for ~$20 a couple of months back.

Don't forget a Bluetooth adapter :)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C7S2FRE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A30FLE2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I ordered both of these, based on Tyriel Wood's review of them, and said they're working great on his Ody+, and mine has too. No issues.

I use rechargeables. You have to buy the right ones, but the ones I bought last at LEAST as long as regular Duracells.

/Look for a deal, BTW. With a coupon, I got those for like $23.

I got all that from a comment that I can't find from a thread months back. The commenter also suggested Wire Wrap which I also use and has worked well. It did take forever to get it on, though, and there was a lot leftover.

Also, other people here have mentioned having to turn off the Vive Link to get it working, I just unplug the Power Supply Adapter from the Vive Link every time I'm done with it and that seems to work. I also disconnect the HDMI/USB/Power Supply Adapter from the computer, the Odyssey+ and the power supply as well when I'm done, instead of leaving anything plugged in.

These 2 work well on my setup:

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https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-Mini-HDMI-HDMI-Cable/dp/B014I8UEGY/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2TRTYRGQM27PR&keywords=amazon+basics+6ft+hdmi+cable&qid=1556900194&s=gateway&sprefix=amazon+basics+6ft+hdmi%2Caps%2C222&sr=8-4

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https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Extension-Black-Feet/dp/B00C7S2FRE/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=cable+matters+6ft+usb+3+cable&qid=1556900240&s=gateway&sr=8-6

These batteries are good:
https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Batteries-Quick-Charge-Integrated-Protection/dp/B07F27PK2M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=1.5v+rechargeable+aa+batteries&qid=1568976823&sprefix=1.5v+rech&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFBMVpTM082RkI5V0ImZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA1MzczNTdaNE9XVUlJM1A2TU4mZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDk5NzE1OTJCMUxYTU9UUlVHR1cmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

I used these cables from Amazon:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C7S2FRE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A30FLE2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They're both 6 feet. Works fine with my Odyssey