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Because each of those people was responsible only one vote: their own, an almost infinitesimal effect.

Not so with Nader: he influenced many other people's votes, hence had greater responsibility.

I remember, I think it was on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Michael Moore, literally getting on his knees begging Nader to withdraw.

Nader ranks very high on the scale of narcissistic psychopathy. The following is from a book called The Narcissist Next Door: Understanding the Monster in your Family, in your Office, in your Bed, in Your World

> ... Nader ran quixotically for President on the Green Party ticket winning 2.8 million votes, 97488 of them in Florida, most of which surely came out of Al Gore's hide. That Florida haul would have been more than enough to overcome the paper-thin 537 votes by which Gore lost ... Yet, when Nader was asked if he felt like he cost Gore the election, his answer was "I think Gore cost ME the election."

https://www.amazon.com/Narcissist-Next-Door-Understanding-Bed-/dp/1594633916/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469236460&sr=8-1&keywords=The+narcissist+next+door

There is as little logic, sense of caring and as much thoughtlessness in your post to which I am replying as there was in Nader's astonishing reply there.

And now, the same thing is happening with Jill Stein. It looks to me like you Green Party'iers are like 7-year old children just enjoying the damage you can do.

>Each issue would cost around $5

I don't want to step on anyone's toes, but I just looked at the first issue...and it shouldn't cost anywhere near that much to get them printed. It looks like you want it to be 4/4 100lb gloss on the whole thing and you could get that printed for about $0.83 per issue (2000 copies, 8.5 x 5.5)...and that's just through jak prints (they do good work but can be kind of expensive for short runs on certain things). 4over would probably be cheaper, but I can't check because they froze my account (I think they're running off of a bunch of igens for almost everything, but their work is consistently decent and inexpensive).

But if you really wanted to save money, you could just do them like 2600 magazine....get the covers printed professionally, do everything else on 20lb bond w/ a laser printer, then saddle-stitch them at home with one of these. Though, if you did that, you couldn't do a bleed like you have on the current copy and, if you managed to trim it (which would be a bitch and wouldn't be worth it) you'd have to account for the shift on each page. So maybe that would be something to keep in mind for issue 2 if you decided to go that route.

Here are some books that might be of interest:

• Revolution in the Air: Sixties Radicals turn to Lenin, Mao and Che
  
• SDS: The rise and development of the Students for a Democratic Society
  
• Soul Power: Culture, Radicalism, and the Making of a U.S. Third World Left
  
• Legacy to Liberation: Politics and Culture of Revolutionary Asian Pacific America
  
• The World Split Open: How the Modern Women's Movement Changed America
  
  (Also there are like a dozen different memoirs and histories of the Weather Underground for some reason. David Gilbert's memoir Love and Struggle is the most recent of these; it's a quick read and very engaging.)

Understanding Power - The Indispensable Chomsky (footnotes)

Side note: the footnotes are incredible. They source all the obscure and seldom-publicized historical events and documents that Chomsky cites as evidence to support his arguments.

The Idea of Communism
Don't know if it's available as e-book. Personally I still like dead trees.

> You are using hindsight in a most convenient way.

Not really, no. I was never an Obama supporter. I saw the way the Establishment treated him as a "serious" candidate and concluded he was no good.

It's really a systemic, structural problem, it's not a personnel level problem. Well, except to the extent that we can conclude any person willing to go along to get along with this system doesn't understand how evil and broken it is, and is therefore a part of the problem.

> He even has delivered on some.

Generally on the unimportant stuff the Ruling Class doesn't care about, or on stuff where actually doing what he promised benefits the Ruling Class.

> and hope that while some of the Bush damage is undone

Obama's main role has been to "normalize" a whole slew of Bush-era excesses that at the time were considered crazy, fascist extremism.

> more people will come to understand that conservative economic policy is for the rich and no one else.

Ditto for liberalism and liberal economic policy. See e.g.:

http://www.amazon.com/Triumph-Conservatism-RE-Interpretation-American-1900-1916/dp/0029166500

> And Obama has not resurrected the GOP. This is a dying gasp of a racist, plutocratic party that can't actually accept that a black man is president

No. See the spanking the Democrats delivered to the GOP in 2006, 2008. Now look at the revival in GOP fortunes in 2010. Bush practically killed the GOP, Obama has resurrected it.

And do not kid yourself racism is that much of a factor. Most of the Obama-hate is nothing more than the "D" next to his name. See e.g. how the GOP base treated Clinton. Not much different from the hate directed at Obama. And see how the GOP base seems okay with Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Michael Steele.

So don't believe Dems when they play the race card. Sometimes they're right, but not always.

> Rep. Kucinich as progressive. I admire the man and regret that he is unelectable

One of the few good Dems. My point really is, forget trying to get opportunists like Obama into office. Aim instead to move the Overton window to the point where people like Kucinich do become electable. The way you do that is, for instance, refuse to vote for candidates unless they sound just like Kucinich or Ron Paul on foreign policy.

> People don't understand that government does good things (along with the bad).

I submit that perhaps you don't understand this nearly as well as you ought to. Do you know what an Anarchist is? Do you understand why there are such folks? Are you aware that Marx was anti-State? That the only Socialists who haven't been discredited are for the most part of the non-State variety?

> Education is the key, not arguing about the lesser of two evils.

Who set up and controls the education system? Why does it inculcate liberalism in the young?

And I'm not arguing about the lesser of two evils. I'm urging do not settle for the lesser of two evils. Because it is still evil. And that is precisely the trap the Establishment has laid for you.