(Part 2) Best products from r/bapccanada

>Just looking for suggestions on what type of CPU and GPU I should be looking towards and I can figure out the rest.

In terms of the CPU, you have a couple options.
If you want the best gaming performance, you'll want the i7 7700k and a Z270 motherboard and a cooler. This specific combo comes to about $620~ +tax & shipping.

On the other hand, if you'd like to save some money, you can choose the Ryzen 1600 (or Ryzen 1700) and pair it with a B350 motherboard. The combo is a mere $380~ +tax (or $450 with the 1700). Also, pair a couple sticks of high speed RAM with Ryzen (3000 - 3200MHz) and you'll see significant performance gains in your games.

AMD's Ryzen is definitely the best value on the market right now, with that being said the 7700k is the undisputed winner when it comes to gaming performance. When it comes to a graphics card, you'll want to pick up a 1080ti (wait until you can get one of these for $900 or less, check r/bapcsalescanada several times daily and you can snag a good deal) if you want to game in 4k. However, if you'll just be playing games @ 1080p in your VR headset you can probably safely pick up the cheaper 1080 or 1070 cards.

For your 4K monitor there are a lot of options and it really depends what is on sale when you buy. The LG 27UD58-B is well regarded and a great value currently.

B450 Aorus Pro WiFi
Price beat at Amazon 169.99 vs. 154.99 -10% of-difference = 153.49$


Gigabyte RX 590 rev 2.0
Price beat at PC-Canada 239.99 vs 230.99 -10% of difference = 230.09$


Ryzen 7 2700x
269.99$


Adata SU630 480SSD
64.99$


2x16gb 3200/16 Gskill
159.99$


Corsair CXM 650w PSU
79.99$

Fractal Design Focus G
Price beat at CanadaComputers 69.99 vs 59.99 -10% of difference = 58.49$

Total = 1149.24 taxes in free shipping.

Notes:

Went with a different Mobo that supports 2nd gen chips from Ryzen and has WiFi built in. The other Mobo I recommended would have required a WiFi card. The price is essentially the same if you consider a decent WiFi card will be 40-50$.

The RX590 comes with a free game.


I put the 2700x in the build as you mentioned you do some workstation style tasks. The 3600 will outperform it in games but not enough to say the 2700x isn’t a good chip to game on.
If you would rather the 3600, you’ll need someone to update the bios for you if you go to a physical MemEx location,
the 3600 is currently out of stock at MemEx last night when I checked.
The 2700x has been on and off sale prices lots lately so if you feel like saving 20$ you could wait a bit.

Storage wise if you feel that 480gb is not enough for you currently you could opt for a small SSD just for windows and throw a larger HDD in just for storage.
SSD + HDD price beat from here = 82.28$ instead of 64.99$ for the larger SSD.


the 650w cx650m PSU is way more then you’ll need with this current build but does offer headroom for hungrier CPU and GPU down the line. It’s the same price as the cx550m atm but the 550 has a nail in rebate of 20$ making it 59.99$ if you have the patience for MIR and want to get 20$ back down the road it will also be plenty good enough for this build.
Technically a 450w could power this rig but I like to keep a 100w headroom on PSU’s so I’d say 550w minimum.

For the case, I recommend the shit out of this FD Focus. 2 decent fans, nice design inside for airflow, filtered mesh front over intake fans and beginners can cable manage in it. It’s also 60$ right now which is killer imo.

Lastly, this is by no means the cheapest route, you could probably save a bit going through other retailers for certain parts MemEx doesn’t carry but I like simplicity.

GL, any questions just ask.

Congrats on your first build! Of course it depends what you are wanting to do. If you are strictly gaming you'll have a better system if you go for intel at this price point.

Personally I would go for an nvme ssd at that price point (especially if I can get it at $150):

https://www.amazon.ca/XPG-GAMMIX-NAND-Gen3x4-AGAMMIXS11P-1TT-C/dp/B07KZNTZYB/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=nvme+ssd&qid=1575146243&sr=8-4

I'd prefer the nh-d15 for cooling, though you might have to switch to lower profile ram like the corsair lpx to accommodate the second fan:

https://www.amazon.ca/Noctua-NH-D15-Premium-Cooler-NF-A15/dp/B00L7UZMAK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=nhd15&qid=1575146493&sr=8-1

The x570 motherboard is overkill in my opinion unless you are interested in pcie x4 down the road. This board is $150 right now: https://www.amazon.ca/ASUS-Prime-X470-Pro-Ryzen-Motherboard/dp/B07C57Q1XH/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=amd+motherboard+b470&qid=1575135581&sr=8-5

I might also consider replacing the case fans with noctua fans although this would push your budget up.

Wish I had gone with something more in line with what you have here with my last build rather than the 9900k / 2070 super I'm running.

At that price point I would recommend:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07B4FRMGV/?tag=pcp0f-20

You will not find more than 8 GB of RAM for under $100 that is of any quality. When sorting through pcpartpicker there were none under $100 at more than 8 GB.

I strongly recommend buying 1x8GB instead of 2x4GB to leave yourself more room to upgrade later. You will find very quickly that 8 GB of RAM will most likely not be enough for current, or future memory intensive projects.

Corsair is a trusted brand that is compatible with the vast majority of motherboard manufacturers. The only boards that have issues with Corsair RAM are specific ASUS boards from 1st gen DDR4 (Z170 Pro Gaming as an example) that will only clock at default speed.

Good luck.

You don't have to have a monitor complementing your video card, but it's not a bad idea to in order to maximize what you have available and minimize what you spend. If you have a card that can only do 30fps, then paying more for a monitor that can do 60fps will be spending more than you need to. There are a ton of different options for monitors in any case, you should first see what your approximate budget is, what your preferences are (size, resolution, refresh rate) perhaps based on your graphics card, and that will help you narrow down a lot of your options. If you're planning on upgrading your card soon, you can buy a nicer monitor in preparation for that, but otherwise I wouldn't buy a way nicer monitor if it wouldn't make any difference.

Have you bought your motherboard yet? If your drives didn't come with a SATA cable, you might as well buy a couple since from my experience, motherboards haven't supplied me with more than one. Really, the majority of cables are very, very similar. No point in overspending when they're virtually the same. For SATA I don't mind the Monoprice ones that you can get off Amazon. You don't have to get those, just use the price as a baseline for what you might pay elsewhere. Also, there are some SATA cables where the heads turn at 90 degrees to fit into your case better.

PCPartPicker Part List

|Type|Item|Price|
|:-|:-|:-|
|CPU|AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor|$198.99 @ Amazon Canada|
|Motherboard|MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard|$159.99 @ Newegg Canada|
|Memory|G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory|$95.99 @ Newegg Canada|
|Storage|Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive|$85.49 @ shopRBC|
|Storage|Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive|$82.32 @ Vuugo|
|Video Card|XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB Video Card|$485.58 @ Amazon Canada|
|Case|Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case|$114.99 @ Newegg Canada|
|Power Supply|Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply|$109.99 @ Amazon Canada|
|Monitor|Acer V277U 27.0" 2560x1440 75 Hz Monitor|$332.99 @ PC-Canada|
|Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts|||
|Total|$1666.33||
|Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-06 23:59 EDT-0400|||

You did say you wanted a lower price so I went with the 2600X, at 1440p your more GPU limited so the performance hit will be minimal. I went with a better looking case that has PSU shroud and rubber grommets. The PSU is Corsair and 550W but your saving yourself $20 since 550W is sufficient. I changed the monitor for one that has freesync and is 75hz for a more enjoyable gaming experience. Lastly, you could even go with the Aorus Pro with onboard wifi+bt and go with Team 3000MHz ram if you want fit the Ducky better into your budget.

I heard Minecraft supports 144Hz so I would recommend getting a monitor that can take advantage of that higher refresh rate. Plus RTX Minecraft hits different so, I would make the jump up. I've attached a monitor that would best benefit you:

https://www.amazon.ca/XG49VQ-Curved-Gaming-FreeSync-Monitor/dp/B07PZR2YY4

you're able to push more power from the i9 than from i7 if you know how to overclock and you're giving yourself more power and better temps on the gpu for less money

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I'd recommend buying all the parts from amazon

CPU: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i9-9900K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B005404P9I/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=i9+9900k&qid=1569748230&s=gateway&sr=8-3

GPU: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-RTX-2070-XC-08G-P4-2172-KR/dp/B07J63W42X/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=rtx+2070+super&qid=1569748272&s=gateway&sr=8-4

AiO: https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-H115i-PLATINUM-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B07JWB5BSP/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=h115i+platinum&qid=1569748293&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Thanks for the great reply. I was looking at this monitor it gets 60fps but I don't have a video card yet cause the one I was looking at is sold out everywhere. I need help to choose another since I was following someone's build and now I don't know. How can I check if a card can reach 60fps? Where do I find this on the spec list?

I bought my motherboard yesterday, I don't know if it comes with cable or not since it hasn't arrived. Was thinking I'd buy one just in case.. I was specifically looking at the monoprice ones on Amazon actually. I don't know which one I need the 90º angle one or the normal one. Is it just preference or does it make a difference? Should I get 2 one for hard drive and one for optical drive?

Edit: these are the two SATA cables I was looking at: 90º & normal

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>WDS100T2B0A

Yes, just be careful not to get the M.2 or PCI versions. For example, this one should work on a standard SATA drive connector:

https://www.amazon.ca/Blue-NAND-1TB-SSD-WDS100T2B0A/dp/B073SBQMCX/

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This one is an M.2. style, which would *NOT* fit your board

https://www.amazon.ca/Blue-NAND-1TB-SSD-WDS100T2B0B/dp/B073SB2MXT

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The model #'s are pretty similar, but you can see from the pictures that they're quite different (M.2 is a chip style, whereas the standard SATA is roughly the size of a laptop drive). Note that while standard SSH's are the size of 2.5" laptop drives, most come with a little plate or whatever to fit a full-size (3.5") bracket for desktops

The 500gb 860 evo is approaching high performance nvme prices, you might want to look at drives like the sabrent rocket, adata sx8200, silicon power or similar drive on amazon.

sabrent rocket: https://www.amazon.ca/Sabrent-SB-ROCKET-512-Rocket-Internal-Performance/dp/B07KGMBCKD/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2H0D5TAUP2EK6&keywords=sabrent+rocket&qid=1568915130&s=gateway&sprefix=sabrent+r%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-2.

Also is the build 100% for gaming? if so then everything looks good, if not then go with a AMD R7 3700x and a B450 Tomahawk MAX instead of the intel stuff.

Okay, update on the situation. I will be building it myself but I realized I ordered a PSU that is not good for a i7-8700k with a gtx 1070. I ordered a EVGA 500W 100-W1-0500-KR (https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-100-W1-0500-KR-WHITE-Warranty-Supply/dp/B00H33SFJU?pf_rd_p=6d4e5a04-483b-427e-8f01-aa9c5a81e67a&pd_rd_wg=DduCW&pf_rd_r=88JRRB4QC9TBNV2TD3ZP&ref_=pd_gw_cr_simh&pd_rd_w=3alOL&pd_rd_r=c1f83c3d-546b-4170-8b93-6a16a448977d)

I think it only supports Intel Haswell. I have a Coffee Lake CPU. Please tell me if it would be compatible for a i7-8700k paired with a gtx 1070. If not then ill try to return it to amazon and get a EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G3 even though it'll destroy my budget.

Am I in deep shit here? (btw, pretty tech savy but never built PC from ground up, only replacing parts.)

EDIT: I am also considering a Corsair PSU, but please show me some links on amazon as so i don't burn down my house because im using a potato.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01IPVSGEC/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

235 buck gtx 1060 6gb

or go to kjjij i have seen some great deals in my area and for most ads you can negociate the price. including this one

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-computer-components/ville-de-montreal/gtx-1060-gaming/1398358119?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

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Does your budget include monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc?

Also, it might be difficult to find a case that small.

Rosewill has a few cheap cases $20-$30.

Black Friday/Boxing Day doesn't always have the best deals. Keep an eye on /r/bapcsalescanada and pick up deals as they come.


CamelCamelCamel to check amazon price history.

Maybe you can also grab a GPU from EVGA B-Stock. Users have reportedly not been hit with customs and the cost after conversion is still worth it. I'm told they restock every wednesday.

i'm bit all over the place.

Thanks for the heads up.

WhosFamousNotMe, you know about /r/bapcsalescanada, right?

/u/a_team24, Also consider the MSI Z170-A PRO for a motherboard. I know you're uncomfortable with the Gigabyte.

The only thing that you should buy early (unless getting a huge discount) is the case. This case is on sale https://www.amazon.ca/gp/dp/B00ZPWOA6I/

It's not the best but it's $25 with free shipping (when you spend $35). On second thoughts...

I think everything in your build is not likely to move off the prices that you've already seen so I would consider buying it now... but you could always wait.

Cheap-ish but still pretty decent: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01MRW2K79/

Or if you want to get something a little higher end:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01MSEYY23/

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B079HGL413/

(1) 1TB SSD on sale https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07J2Q4SWZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_R8hlDbCSXN69G for $130. The days of having to compromise and have an OS SSD and everything else on old-school HDDs is over at this pricepoint.

(2) Get the Ryzen 5 3600. Its so much better and I've seen it for $260ish which isn't much more for a +10-20% performance on a much more efficient 7nm fab.

(3) If you can afford it, I'd get the 2060 Super or wait for the 5700/5700XT to come out with a non-blower based cooling option. You're looking at $500ish for a graphic card, but the 1660Ti is a lot of money for a card that already feels eclipsed by more recent releases.

I’ve been looking at an asus 24” monitor that’s 75hz but had freesync that’s right in my range that I may try. That may just be the sweet spot for me.

ASUS 24" Full HD FreeSync Gaming Monitor [VG245H] 1080p https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01JGYM5H6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YRGBCbZKG157G

Thanks for the advice, I think I am leaning towards the https://www.amazon.ca//dp/B01JGYM5H6 now!!

Amazon just put this EVGA 1080 SC@ on sale for 700. https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06W51YRVT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1

Not sure if I want to swap out the hybrid for this though.

I have the cheap Acer 144hz monitor that was onsale recently. I will eventually pickup a 2 or 3 tb drive when I find a good deal.

I just bought the Crucial P1 for a bit cheaper than that.

It seems to have good reviews.