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Sorry in advance for the ellipses, I edited some things out due to the comment character limit (10,000 characters).

Thank you for sharing his name. I do want to emphasize, though, that I did not intend for you to share his real first name. Most if not all stories posted here have the names of the individuals involved changed for privacy's sake. It's your choice, but please be mindful of the risks in sharing too many real details.

> At work, I still wear my panties (and it's really cold out anyway), but I almost always keep a smaller plug in.

Oh man... keeping a plug in at work throughout the day is an incredibly hot thing to do. What sort of lube do you use? Water-based or silicone? I've toyed with the idea of wearing a plug for extended periods myself because it feels amazing to me but I don't really have a good-enough quality plug to do that, and the good ones are expensive.

How often do you have to take it out and re-lube? Do you have any sort of negative consequences because of it, such as hemorrhoids or bleeding or any bothersome pains or sore spots in your rectum or your anus?

Another random question... do you do Kegels to keep your PC muscle in shape?

> Obviously, Kacey and I are still getting used to the idea. She's been in on this longer than I have

I have to say that it really wasn't very cool the way Michael went about this with Kacey initially, and in turn she betrayed you as well during the time when their sexual relationship was being kept a secret from you. I'm glad that you found a way within yourself to come to terms with that and to actually embrace it. That shows an immense capacity for acceptance as well as forgiveness. I understand that there is a component of selfishness at work as well because you did not wish to be excluded.

Actually, your overall capacity to embrace the submissive aspect of your personality is quite admirable. To me, there is just about nothing hotter than a woman who has gotten past her guilt and hangups over sex. To allow yourself to become your "inner slut" and to not be ashamed of who you truly are is, in a word, amazing.

> I've never heard that term, but then again I'm new to this for the most part.

That's perfectly fine. I have an advantage of being extremely sexual myself and reading about sex all the time. I am quite the pervert haha. I write erotica and have done an incredible amount of research for my story over the years, and in the process have learned many things I had never known before.

If you're interested in learning more or simply reading about it or watching that sort of porn, there is a subreddit for it here: /r/cuckquean/

> At first seeing her just instantly respond to that in front of me felt physically upsetting and I wanted to just run away. But I didn't because something in me was very turned on by it. ... I guess I have to admit to myself that feeling like you are describing is something I LOVE. I've shared a lot with him since then, and I know that he wants to push it further after seeing how influenced I was by it.

Admitting to yourself that you love something that your logical brain tells you that you shouldn't enjoy is very powerful, indeed. For me, I usually have a little checklist of questions I run through to be sure that I'm being honest with myself. One of the top questions is: Does this 'thing', whatever it may be, hurt anyone?

For example, you mentioned in your story that you cleaned Micheal's cock after he fucked your ass and then you sucked his cum from Kacey's ass after he had fucked her there. For a lot of people, those acts would be definite NO WAYs, but when you get down to it, they hurt no one and in fact bring great pleasure to those you do them for. I have to think that Michael found it beyond hot that you would put his cock back in your mouth after it had been inside your asshole.

He has to be impressed with what you are willing to do every single day. I know I am from what you've written.

Oh, but I'm not sure about how you feel about the taste of lube, but just be aware if you're not already that there are some really yummy-tasting flavored lubes available. I have tried a few and they make things far more palatable. I really like the taste of this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FP95QU

> I'm not sure if we are equal. In fact, I still don't know where we stand. ... but I know that Kacey was more submissive from the start and that he values that more than anything. ... wanting to make me more willing like she is. I think it's because I hesitate

I get the feeling that he views you as a challenge, something that he intends to conquer, and that's all right. Hopefully he appreciates the differences between the two of you and values you accordingly.

> So between us, it's a little competitive. Sometimes a little fun. She's always liked to poke fun at my relationships and how I react over guys, but I never had the same access to her relationships because she kept her mouth shut (something I have a hard time with!). Something inside me can't stop being jealous when he's with her though. I try to picture myself there and then I just think about him enjoy Kacey more. It may be self esteem related

Jealousy is quite natural. I would be more concerned if you didn't feel some jealousy. It's all in the ways you are able to process your jealous feelings that determine how you feel about everything. You can either choose to become bitter and resentful about a situation or you can choose to accept it, embrace it, and feel good about it. Sharing Micheal with Kacey has many positives for you, so you can choose to focus on those positive aspects and let go of all of the negative ones.

I'm really glad that you are so much more proud of your body now, and I know that nice-looking boobs can factor into that pride in a big way. I suppose if you ever wanted an objective guy opinion about your boobs, you could share a pic via PM and I would give my honest opinion of whether I think they're "trying too hard". (Mods please don't kill me, I'm not asking for a pic.)

> I definitely think that he is enamored with the idea of having two girls to himself that are like we are. The fact that he's getting a mother and a daughter one of those Jerry Springer things that I couldn't ever imagine happening, but I know he loves us both as a package. It does bother me that I still work and she is home most of the day, potentially with him, but it also excites me too. I'm having a hard of explaining why.

Oh no, you're explaining things really well. It's completely reasonable for you to be bothered when she is potentially at home getting to spend time with him when you're stuck at work.

And there is no doubt in my mind that he LOVES the fact that he's getting a mother and daughter, and even then sometimes at the same time. That's one lucky-ass motherfucker right there lol. :D

> I had previously had some fantasies of a close female friend of mine in high school, but we never acted on them. It wasn't as acceptable. Even in this town today it wouldn't go over well. But with Kacey, it's more than just a lesbian fantasy. We're way past taboo. We've moved on to something that unleashed every single possible sexual idea in my mind, and planted new ones too. Before this, I was jealous of her body and her attitude. Now, it's partly mine to share.

I completely hear you. That unleashing of every sexual idea sounds beyond incredible.

> I could actually taste her being turned on by me, taste and feel her in a way that I felt connected to her. ... I'm still wrapping my head around the fact that I guess this makes me a lesbian.

I also love alllll of the tastes and smells of sex, so I'm with you there. And the way you described feeling connected to her is very special. Labels like "lesbian" aren't so important as it is for you to be able to accept that you enjoy having sex with another woman and that's completely okay. There is nothing to be ashamed about there. It's all simply pleasure you are giving to and receiving from another person.

> We haven't used any toys on each other yet, though we talked about it. We don't have any strap ons, but I don't know how I'd feel about that. Well, I do in the sense that I would want to be the one in control. I would feel too much of a submissive to let her do that to me.

That is very interesting. Just from my own perspective, I don't agree that being penetrated automatically is a submissive act. You can be penetrated and still be in control, in my opinion. But, I do see what you are saying.

> I feel like it would make her better than me in the relationship and I'm really fighting that balance.

Yep, I hear that.

> As for the buttplugs, one of his rules is that we have to put one in each other if we're both around. Kacey gets to choose mine and I choose hers.

That is so cool!

> It's sort of humiliating when he's not around, but a little bit hot too.

Definitely hot.

> The big plugs are a LOT of work though. I can barely walk in them and getting them in and out is a lot of work. We've been using smaller ones when he's away. I don't know if I'd ever choose one that big unless he picks it for me.

So, how big are we talking here? Do you know how big the diameter or circumference of the biggest one you've been able to get inside you is?

> I really appreciate the questions though. I don't really have a big avenue to talk about things like this, and it helps me see different sides of my relationship. I would be lying if I said posting about it on the internet and sharing it with strangers has been much hotter to me than I thought it would. ... So, feel free to ask anything I suppose!

Thank you for another amazing reply. You seem really awesome and if you'd like to talk further, I'd be happy to discuss anything you might like to and give you my outsider's thoughts and opinions.

Would you be open to talking further by private message? It could be fun. :)

Appreciate your input! Sounds like a good idea, actually.

We were talking the other day. She was complaining that she felt old and unattractive. I told her that she is more beautiful now than she was 10 years ago and that I, and many other men, find mature women more attractive etc.

I was thinking about borrowing her laptop one day (gonna tell her mine is malfunctioning), search for mature porn, women that look like her and so on, and "forget" to delete the browser history. She will definitely see it because she is very careful with her computer.

I will absolutely update. I don't know if you have read my comments about me ignoring her for so long? I'm probably going to have to work on that for a pretty long time before I do something I cannot undo. Wanna do this right.

She is opening up more and more, though. Today she sent me 3 pictures of her when I was out. I told her I have a very attractive mother.

Thanks again, mate.

Edit:

The woman in this picture looks a lot like my mother. See what I have to live with? Lol.

http://www.amazon.com/Tranquil-Dreams-Nightshirt-Ecofabric-Organic/dp/B00G7OYERS/ref=pd_sim_a_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1CJTZP1VTSP02TDHH594

Boneless skinless chicken breasts cut into bite size strips, cooked in a large deep frying pan (medium heat) with about 1 cup of sweet dessert style, mead (my dad brews his own mead)... until the chicken is almost fully cooked. Drain the mead completely. Coat the chicken with light to medium sprinkling of greek seasoning. Return the chicken to the pan and brown @ 3/4 heat. The sugars from the sweet mead will caramelize a bit. Then turn the heat down to 1/4, add two bottles of classico creamy alfredo sauce and a bag of your favorite frozen vegetables. My personal choice is a mixed bag of Baby broccoli florets, sugar snap peas, water chestnuts, and carrots. mix the vegetables in with the sauce and chicken. Cover the pan with a lid, stirring about every two minutes for about 8 minutes. remove cover. let sit on 1/4 heat uncovered while you prepare the garlic bread. turn on the broiler when you put the bread in, not before, or you risk burning the top of the bread rather quickly. about 4 minutes is all it should need in the broiler, just to the point it's slightly browning on top, not blackening.

Hope that helps. finding a sweet dessert mead will probably be your biggest challenge. Although you could probably use an extra sweet dessert Riesling instead if you can't find mead.

I'm already working on it! Mom has a meditation retreat next weekend, but said she can come up on September 29th. My roommate is working on getting his mom up the same weekend. Our plan is to hang out again in one of their hotel rooms. Maybe we can get adjoining suites for them. My roommate has been helpful in plotting things we can do. Again, we don't want to push things with my mom to fast too soon, but one idea we came up with (which I think is perfect) is for the four of us to play a board game together. I've found this one that looks really good, but if anyone else has additional recommendations, let me know.

https://www.amazon.com/Grown-Up-Board-Game-Loopy/dp/B072JY5JMR/ref=sr_1_14?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1505817527&sr=1-14&keywords=adult+games

Among my early introductions to the incest kink was a book that my parents had - it was either Ourselves and Our Children, a parenting book by the Boston Women's Health Collective (http://www.amazon.com/Ourselves-Children-Boston-Womens-Collective/dp/0394733045) or Kids, Day In and Day Out (http://www.amazon.com/Kids-Day-Out-Recommendations-Inspirations/dp/0671224808) - I honestly can't remember which, and can't find it on my shelf right now.

In it was an anecdote, written by a mother, about seeing her son step out of the shower, naked, and getting turned on by it.

Xaviera Hollander and Susie Bright have both written about the fantasy - from the woman's perspective.

Here's what I know. I know it happens, I know that fantasies are fantasies. I know from my own research that women, generally, fantasize more about Daddy figures, and that the Mom-Son fantasies (generally) come from guys - one of my proxies for this "research" is Craigslist Casual encounters. You find far more women looking for "Daddies" than you do looking for "sons".

Admittedly, this may be skewed, since there might be a greater taboo element placed on Mothers fantasizing about sons (not that there is in my mind).

And from my own personal experience, I've found that if you scratch the surface of a woman's kink, and they're already admitting that they're interested in incest fantasies, then you're going to find that they're turned on by Mom-Son fantasies. I'd say 4 out of 5 times...

Metal rods are good, but these feel fantastic.
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I opted for a gradual painless approach. This for the first couple of times.

Then she'll pass to [this] (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Womens-Halterneck-Bodystocking-Bodysuit-Babydoll/dp/B016AGGPF6/ref=pd_sim_193_5?ie=UTF8&dpID=41npxB2RXjL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL200_SR119%2C200_&refRID=0M2YXTY89YB3HRTX26HD) if she's comfortable enough.

EDIT: Eh, amazon doesn't redirect to the specific model. The second link, I'm referring to the fifth model 3.19 pounds, color: Black4.

Here's two I know of that are like that

Weekend Vacation : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TKND82U

Caught : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T6OOT0I

https://www.amazon.com/PANNOVO-camera-Hidden-Camera-Detection/dp/B01MXM035W/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1499931986&sr=8-5&keywords=motion+detection+camera

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Adolescence isn't timeless. Neither is childhood generally. https://smile.amazon.com/Invention-Childhood-Emeritus-Professor-Cunningham/dp/0563493909/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525730746&sr=8-1&keywords=invention+of+childhood

Not sure if it would qualify as mainstream but the main reason [this novel] (https://www.amazon.com/Life-love-everything-between-Loma/dp/0993226329/) strikes a chord is it doesn't paint incest in a bad light. Finding such literature (fiction/erotica) that is loving and romantic is difficult.

> usual positions on the couch are one of us on the chaise lounger at the end

had to look this up, Amazon example here if anyone is interested in WTF a chaise lounger is

>and the other lying on the long end of the couch next to the chaise

How far apart were these pieces of furniture?

>this is the position we were in that night with her in the chaise and me on the couch.

>My head was near my mom's lap and my arm was over her waist. Her arm was on the small of my back.

It sounds like they were arranged in close proximity to one another to be able to be on top of both pieces at once. I do this sometimes with a couch and footrest.

>On nights I was in the chaise I'd fall to the side, letting my body slide behind hers

I am having a really tough time picturing how your furniture is arranged now that you say this, are these things lined up perpendicularly with both of your feet aimed at the television or something?

If that's true wouldn't it make it hard to get onto the furniture though? If you had a gap to walk up beside then you would fall into the gap if you tried to slide from one to the other.

Could you possibly draw your furniture?

wondering if asking for pics of just OP's furniture layout would violate the 'no pic requests' rule, just can't seem to visualize this spatial situation adequately

> both lying together on the chaise

Those things look narrow, is yours a particularly wide one? Is it a double like this one on Amazon or something?

>she's probably given me head almost 100 times and I've gone down on her 200 times

What do you think caused this ratio to occur? I guess females are ready for another round in less time and males have fluid limitations?